Baha'i Masood Tayebi's defense/military technology company merger (quote) "significantly Enhances Kratos' C4ISR Capabilities and Provides Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) Products and Technology"
maybe...@gmail.com
interest, Kratos Defense and Security Solutions (http://
www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Wireless_Facilities) about working
on some guidance systems for their UAV's, since this area is one of
your specialities? By the sounds of this report, they appear to be
going 'great guns'.
http://ir.wfinet.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?releaseid=263874
Wireless Facilities, Inc. Announces New Company Name: Kratos Defense &
Security Solutions, Inc.
http://newsblaze.com/story/2008122409152300002.pz/topstory.html
Published: December 24,2008
Kratos Defense & Security Solutions Completes Merger With Digital
Fusion, Inc.
Merger Significantly Enhances Kratos' C4ISR Capabilities and Provides
Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) Products and Technology
SAN DIEGO, Dec. 24, 2008 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Kratos Defense & Security
Solutions, Inc. announced today that it has completed its merger with
Digital Fusion, Inc. (DFI). DFI, headquartered in Huntsville, AL.,
significantly enhances Kratos' C4ISR and technical engineering
capabilities, provides Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) products and
technology, and adds significant engineering, modeling & simulation
capabilities.
The merger of DFI into Kratos furthers Kratos' strategy and position
as a premier federal government contractor in the areas of legacy
weapon system life cycle extension, sustainment & equipment reset,
C4ISR, weapons and targets range operations & services, and
information technology, assurance, & security. The transaction
increases Kratos' employee count to approximately 2,300, the majority
of whom hold security clearances, and is expected to be immediately
accretive to Kratos' valuation metrics.
Eric DeMarco, Kratos' President and Chief Executive Officer, said "The
merger with DFI is another important step forward in executing our
strategy of building a premier national, homeland and public security
services and solutions provider. DFI has virtually all of the key
characteristics Kratos looks for in a merger, including a solid
management team led by Mike Wicks, a close strategic fit with Kratos'
core business focus areas, a key geographic location in Huntsville,
AL., and being immediately accretive financially."
Mike Wicks, Chief Operating Officer of Digital Fusion, commented, "We
are extremely pleased to be joining the Kratos family. The expanded
resources, capabilities, and past performance of Kratos will enable
DFI to pursue larger and broader contract opportunities which we
believe will increase our ability to grow organically and provide
additional opportunities for our most valuable asset, DFI's employees.
In addition, DFI's unique technical qualifications, particularly in
the areas of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and Modeling & Simulation, will
nicely complement Kratos' core competencies. We are very excited at
what the future holds, and look forward to being a part of the
dominant mid-tier federal contractor."
The combination of Kratos and DFI provides Kratos with new customers
and an expanded contract vehicle portfolio, in addition to broadening
the range of service offerings to the existing Kratos customer base.
Principal customers of DFI include the Army Aviation and Missile
Research, Development and Engineering Center (AMRDEC), Army Space and
Missile Defense Command/Army Forces Strategic Command ARSTRAT), NASA
Marshall Space Flight Center, and certain classified customers.
Pursuant to the acquisition, all outstanding shares of DFI common
stock have been converted into Kratos stock at an exchange rate of
1.7933 shares of Kratos common stock for each outstanding share of DFI
common stock. The transaction has been structured to be tax-free to
shareholders of both Kratos and DFI for U.S. federal income tax
purposes.
DeMarco concluded, "Since the end of 2007, we have now brought
together four outstanding small businesses to create what Kratos is
today. As we have stated previously, we have just recently reorganized
our company to take advantage of our increased customer base, number
of contract vehicles, and overall resources. We are in the process of
streamlining the business, reducing cost and exiting certain non-core
or underperforming businesses, which once completed will position
Kratos to be an approximately $400 million business in 2009, with
target EBITDA margins consistent with those of our peers."
About Kratos Defense & Security Solutions
Kratos Defense & Security Solutions, Inc. provides mission critical
engineering, IT services and war fighter solutions for the U.S.
federal government and for state and local agencies. Principal
services include C4ISR, weapon systems lifecycle support, military
weapon range and technical services, network engineering services,
advanced IT services, security and surveillance systems, and critical
infrastructure design and integration. The Company is headquartered in
San Diego, California, with resources throughout the U.S. and at key
strategic military locations. News and information are available at
www.KratosDefense.com.
The Kratos Defense & Security Solutions, Inc. logo is available at
http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/prs/?pkgid=3519
Notice Regarding Forward-Looking Statements
This news release and filing contains certain forward-looking
statements that involve risks and uncertainties, including, without
limitation, expressed or implied statements concerning the anticipated
benefits of the proposed transaction, Kratos' expectations regarding
future financial performance, performance of key contracts and market
developments. Such statements are only predictions, and the Company's
actual results may differ materially. Factors that may cause the
Company's results to differ include, but are not limited to: risks
that the anticipated benefits will not be realized; risks that the DFI
integration will prove more costly, take more time, or be more
distracting than currently anticipated; risks of adverse regulatory
action or litigation; risks associated with debt leverage; risks that
changes or cutbacks in spending by the U.S. Department of Defense may
occur, which could cause delays or cancellations of key government
contracts; risks that changes may occur in Federal government (or
other applicable) procurement laws, regulations, policies and budgets;
risks relating to contract performance; changes in the competitive
environment (including as a result of bid protests); and failure to
successfully consummate acquisitions or integrate acquired operations
and competition in the marketplace which could reduce revenues and
profit margins. The Company undertakes no obligation to update any
forward-looking statements. These and other risk factors are more
fully discussed in the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-K for the
period ended December 31, 2007, Form 10-Q for the period ended
September 28, 2008, and in other filings made with the Securities and
Exchange Commission.
CONTACT: Kratos Defense & Security Solutions, Inc.
Press Contact:
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858-812-7309 Direct
Investor Information:
877-934-4687
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All Bad
<maybe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Pat Kohli, maybe you should approach Baha'i Masood Tayebi's business
> interest, Kratos Defense and Security Solutions (http://
> www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Wireless_Facilities) about working
> on some guidance systems for their UAV's, since this area is one of
> your specialities? By the sounds of this report, they appear to be
> going 'great guns'.
>
Like W. Azal, you seem to have some random naval aviation association thing
going on. You don't do random associations to literacy or race relations.
You don't accuse me of training people to be literacy tutors, or coaching
minority youth on how to act at a traffic stop - don't consent to search,
etc. Why is that? W. Azal googled these pastimes to, and you guys ignore
them, and make up stuff about drones because it looks like naval aviation.
- All Bad
maybe...@gmail.com
wrote:
> <maybeiam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9e7f1091-e267-42d3...@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Pat Kohli, maybe you should approach Baha'i Masood Tayebi's business
> > interest, Kratos Defense and Security Solutions (http://
> >www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Wireless_Facilities) about working
> > on some guidance systems for their UAV's, since this area is one of
> > your specialities? By the sounds of this report, they appear to be
> > going 'great guns'.
>
> Like W. Azal, you seem to have some random naval aviation association thing
> going on. You don't do random associations to literacy or race relations.
Because these associations (teaching literacy/race relations) aren't
so ridiculously incongruent as the position of being a fierce defender
of the Baha'is (and hence its core ideologies, which would surely have
to include peace, and non-violent conflict resolution?), and being a
weapons expert at the same time. In this context, that is the key
contradiction, and the one that deserves to be highlighted.
> You don't accuse me of training people to be literacy tutors, or coaching
> minority youth on how to act at a traffic stop - don't consent to search,
> etc. Why is that? W. Azal googled these pastimes to, and you guys ignore
> them, and make up stuff about drones because it looks like naval aviation.
>
> - All Bad
Ok, here's a link to your work in the field of literacy:
http://somd.com/news/headlines/2004/1404.shtml
Good work (seriously), but it doesn't even begin to make up for the
bigger issues here.
Now back to the issue of my comments regarding your role with
military- as you can see from the links below, Kratos has had quite
significant involvements with the Navy in the past, which sounds like
it might have fitted the bill for future employment of someone in your
field. I was also going on what you said here:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/8616d368b6852c74?
AB: I worked on an unarmed surveillance aircraft and I knew of two
Baha'is
living in the neighborhood who used to do magnetic surveys in their
P-3
survey squadron.
>
http://www.kratosdefense.com/seaporte.htm
SeaPort-e
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS129576+20-May-2008+PNW20080520
Kratos Defense & Security Solutions Awarded Contract From Naval
Surface Warfare Center...
Kratos Defense & Security Solutions Awarded Contract From Naval
Surface Warfare
Center (NSWC) Crane to Support Expeditionary Warfare Systems Division
Valued At
Approximately $49 Million
Kratos Defense & Security Solutions, Inc. (Nasdaq:KTOS), a leading
national
defense and security solutions provider, today announced the award of
a contract
from the Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC) Crane to support the
Expeditionary
Warfare Systems Division. Kratos was one of only two companies
selected to
compete for task orders under this cost-plus-fixed-fee,
indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity (IDIQ) contract. The work will
include
engineering, logistics, research and development, and program support
for a
variety of customer programs and projects including air and missile
defense
systems, missile systems, command and control systems, and sensor
systems. This
contract will provide for support services to the Department of
Defense; and the
governments of Egypt, United Arab Emirates (UAE), and Turkey under the
Foreign
Military Sales (FMS) Program. This 5-year contract has a total
estimated value
of up to $49.9 million over the period of performance.
"This is a very important and strategic customer whom we have been
supporting
for over six years," said Richard Selvaggio, Senior Vice President of
Kratos'
Madison Research Division in Huntsville, Alabama. "Kratos supports the
NSWC
Expeditionary Systems Engineering/Platform & Launch Systems Division
with a
range of mission-critical engineering and logistics support, and this
win
expands our core aviation and missile support activities across all
DoD service
branches as well as several foreign customers."
http://www.kratosdefense.com/cs_nuwc.htm
Naval Undersea Warfare Center
In 2005, Kratos won a major contract supporting the Naval Undersea
Warfare Center (NUWC) in Keyport, Washington, with a range of
engineering and technical services. To improve the war-fighting
capabilities of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, Kratos is facilitating
equipment installations aboard Fast Attack and Fleet Ballistic Missile
Submarines. The award, with a potential value of $30 million over a
five-year period, was the first of three task orders that Kratos has
won from NUWC.
Situational Overview
The Naval Undersea Warfare Center (NUWC) is the U.S. Navy’s full-
spectrum research, development, test and evaluation, engineering and
fleet support center for submarines, autonomous underwater systems,
and offensive and defensive weapons systems associated with undersea
warfare.
NUWC’s Division Keyport engaged Submarine Alteration Installation
Teams to enhance its combat control and C4I (Command, Control,
Communications, Computers and Intelligence) systems. As a
subcontractor to Northrop Grumman, Kratos was selected to provide
engineering, installation, maintenance and technical support to
advance the Navy’s critical capabilities.
Unique Challenge
Kratos was tasked with advancing the technological and war-fighting
capabilities of Navy submarines in the Pacific Fleet. Working
primarily aboard submarines located in San Diego, Hawaii and Guam,
Kratos was charged with:
Developing installation packages in support of combat systems and C4I
upgrade.
Installing the C4I upgrades.
Conducting pre-and post-installation testing and equipment operational
verification.
Maintaining a quality assurance program approved by the Naval Sea
Systems Command (NAVSEA).
Kratos’ quality engineering services have been essential to providing
the Navy with the necessary “surge capacity” to meet escalating
demands on the Pacific Fleet in the face of significant security
threats around the world.
Kratos Solution
Because of its expertise in command and control systems, Kratos was
tapped to provide a full spectrum of services to NUWC under the multi-
year contract. Its engineers were asked to offer installation,
testing, assurance and maintenance services for the following systems:
Integrated Augmentation Displays (IAD) Device: a video Local Area
Network (LAN) that ties together the ship’s sensors with output
displays in various locations on the ship.
Automated Identification System (AIS): a shipboard broadcast system
that improves ship-to-ship identification.
AN/BYG-1: the latest combat system for the Navy Submarine Fleet.
Total Ship Monitoring System (TSMS): a system that maximizes each
submarine’s acoustic stealth advantage by monitoring “self noise” and
sending alerts in the event of degradations to desired conditions.
Empowering Benefits
Kratos’ quality engineering services and systems installation support
have provided the Navy with significant benefits to date, including:
Rapid Technology Insertion: Kratos is assisting in the update of
technology on the ships as quickly as possible without intrusive or
extensive redesign. By using open architecture hardware and software,
the Navy is making strides toward its goal of rapid technology
insertion.
Enhanced Naval Capabilities: By using commercially available, widely
accepted interface standards and commercial products from multiple
vendors, Kratos is helping the Navy keep pace with rapidly changing
technologies and operational needs. Kratos’s installation services
give the Navy the performance and scalability to support a variety of
submarine missions.
Reduced Costs: By combining military and commercially available
technologies and utilizing local area technicians to perform the
modernizations, Kratos is helping the Navy lower its expenses while
gaining the benefits of interoperability, flexibility and reliability.
Decisive Superiority: By implementing new systems quickly and
effectively, Kratos is enabling the Navy to make better decisions
faster. The systems provide the maximum situational awareness to the
crew, giving them the information they need to gain a strategic
advantage.
In the Base Year of the contract, which ended in March 2007, Kratos
met all requirements of the contract, providing NUWC and Northrop
Grumman with the surge capacity to meet emergent requirements in
Hawaii, San Diego, Norfolk and King’s Bay, Georgia.
Also, is the Open Architecture software you design for various Navy
applications (including the E-2) not at all applicable to the
communication of strike zones/targets on the ground, and to the
general integration/cross-communication and guidance of weapons
systems across several platforms?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-2_Hawkeye
"During Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom all ten
Hawkeye squadrons flew overland sorties. They provided critical battle
management for attack of enemy ground targets, close-air-support
coordination, combat search and rescue control, airspace management,
as well as datalink and communication relay for both land and naval
forces."
https://acc.dau.mil/GetAttachment.aspx?id=31408&pname=file&lang=en-
US&aid=5668 -
"Young also asked about challenges facing the E-2 program, with
regards to softwareintegration. Pat Kohli, NCW Open Architecture Lead,
demonstrated how the E-2/C-2 program office (PMA-231) is continuously
evaluating and implementing softwaremodernization to facilitate
transition of the existing E-2 operational flight program to an
environment using commercially available systems. Venlet said, "The
Naval Aviation Enterprise has embraced open architecture as
afundamental building block of weapon system development from its very
inception. Ourgovernment/industry teams continue to leverage these
open system strategies and
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concepts in achieving reduction in overall development cycle times and
deliveringincreased system capabilities to the Fleet faster and
cheaper. The advantages ofintegrating open architecture designs and
contracting strategies are measurable and pronounced as is
substantiated by our E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and P-8 Multi-Mission
Aircraft development programs. The key to continued success will be
maintaining theclose partnership with industry experts, as we provide
the right capabilities, at the righttime and right cost to the joint
warfighter."
All Bad
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http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/8616d368b6852c74?
(snip)
An example of random association would be the parrotted suggestion that I
work on, or had expertise with UAVs.
Also, is the Open Architecture software you design for various Navy
applications (including the E-2) not at all applicable to the
communication of strike zones/targets on the ground, and to the
general integration/cross-communication and guidance of weapons
systems across several platforms?
AB: It would make it a lot easier to support internet connectivity vice
stove-piped connectivity, between other aircraft and ships.
(snip)
- All Bad
maybe...@gmail.com
http://www.paxpartnership.org/events/index.cfm?stage=show&eventid=844&time=past
Guest Speaker: Pat Kohli
Pat is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for PMA-231
as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint Inigoes
for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
computer Information Systems from Florida Tech.
So to develop the kind of information transfer between an aircraft
such as the E2-C and the RQ8 UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) described
in the Naval exercise below, you would have needed no experience with
the technology/software required for the operation of UAV's? Doesn't
the article below, entitled "First real-time information sharing among
manned, unmanned Navy platform enables rapid execution of precision
strike mission", describe how "the Navy/Northrop Grumman team created
a non-proprietary, open-architecture network for this demonstration
using commercial-off-the-shelf equipment", to link the E2-C with a
UAV, a simulated aircraft carrier, and a Hornet in an 'open
architecture' environment? As the article also states, "the team for
this battle management command and control demonstration comprised
elements of the Naval Air Systems Command's PMA-231 (E-2C)" of which
you have served as Open Architecture IPT Lead. Are you still saying
that you have absolutely no experience/expertise at any level with the
systems required for the operation/system integration of UAV's?
http://www.irconnect.com/noc/pages/news_printer.html?d=57052&print=1
First real-time information sharing among manned, unmanned Navy
platform enables rapid execution of precision strike mission
BETHPAGE, N.Y., May 6, 2004 -- Northrop Grumman Corporation (NYSE:NOC)
and the U.S. Navy have advanced, with a recent exercise, the service's
warfighting goal of interconnecting sensors, manned and unmanned
aircraft, ships and offensive weapon platforms in real time to locate
and strike targets.
In the April 14 demonstration, engineers from the Naval Air Systems
Command and Northrop Grumman's Integrated Systems sector used a Navy
E-2C Hawkeye battle management aircraft to integrate and direct a
precision strike mission using information provided over a network by
a Navy RQ-8 Fire Scout unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), a simulated
aircraft carrier operations control center, and an F/A-18 strike
aircraft.
Northrop Grumman's Advanced Information Architecture (AIA), an
Internet-like communications architecture of in-theater, platform-
based servers, provided the data storage and sharing capabilities that
enabled this first-time communication among manned and unmanned Navy
airborne systems.
"The Navy/Northrop Grumman team created a non-proprietary, open-
architecture network for this demonstration using commercial-off-the-
shelf equipment - and we did it without writing a single line of
software code, " said Tim Farrell, vice president and leader of
Northrop Grumman's airborne early warning integrated product team.
"The network, which included the company's AIA server and related
software, was up and running in less than a week, a testament to the
joint team's ability to provide innovative, cost-effective solutions
for complex FORCEnet requirements."
FORCEnet is the network of systems that the Navy envisions will
integrate its Sea Power 21 operational concept. FORCEnet spans and
integrates everything the Navy must do - from undersea to space
operations, from procuring parts and systems to payroll and housing -
to carry out its mission.
In the command and control exercise, the E-2C aircraft directed the
Fire Scout vertical takeoff and landing tactical UAV to search for a
suspected target within a specified area. The UAV captured and stored
real-time video imagery of the target areas on board its AIA server.
The E-2C then downloaded this digital imagery from Fire Scout and sent
it over a wideband network to a software-simulated aircraft carrier
operations center in Newport News, Va., and ground stations in
Bethpage, N.Y., and Arlington, Va.
Operators in both the carrier operations center and the E-2C Hawkeye
used specialized targeting software to determine precise target
coordinates, then posted them to a Web site. The Hawkeye crew used the
data from that Web site to direct an orbiting F/A-18 Hornet aircraft
to simulate an attack on the target.
"This concept demonstration proves that an innovative team armed with
available technology can create a digital kill chain capable of
reducing strike timelines from hours to a few minutes," said Capt.
Robert LaBelle, NAVAIR E-2/C-2 program manager. "The Navy will use
this concept to develop proposed capabilities that could be further
evaluated under its Sea Trial initiatives."
The team for this battle management command and control demonstration
comprised elements of the Naval Air Systems Command's PMA-231 (E-2C),
PMA-263 (Fire Scout), and PMA-265 (F/A-18) program offices, its VX-20
test squadron, and representatives from Northrop Grumman's Integrated
Systems and Newport News sectors.
The Hawkeye and Hornet aircraft flew out of Naval Air Station Patuxent
River, Md. The Fire Scout operated from Webster Field, Md. The
Virginia Advanced Shipbuilding and Carrier Integration Center (VASCIC)
simulated aircraft carrier is located in Newport News, Va. A joint
effort of the Commonwealth of Virginia, the City of Newport News and
Northrop Grumman's Newport News sector, VASCIC is a "proving ground"
for advanced shipbuilding and operations technologies.
The ground stations in Bethpage and Arlington are part of the Northrop
Grumman nationwide Cyber Warfare Integration Network (CWIN), a
synthetic engineering environment that links four company sites linked
to one another and customer sites around the country. CWIN was created
to design systems and "systems-of-systems" and evaluate them within
real-time, full-spectrum battlefield, homeland security and other
scenarios.
The April 14 test demonstrated that CWIN can receive data from ships,
planes and other platforms, sensors, weapons and battle management
command and control centers anywhere in the world, or from internally
generated, high-fidelity models, to create real-world environments.
The Northrop-Grumman proposed Advanced Information Architecture stores
imagery and other critical battlefield information in a network of
high-capacity servers located on in-theater airborne intelligence,
surveillance and reconnaissance, and battle management platforms. It
allows "bandwidth challenged" tactical users to download mission
critical data on demand directly from platforms such as the U.S. Air
Force's E-8C Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (Joint
STARS), the RQ-4 Global Hawk aerial reconnaissance system or the
Navy's RQ-8 Fire Scout tactical UAV.
AIA provides a faster, simpler alternative to the expensive, bandwidth-
intensive process used in recent foreign conflicts to download Global
Hawk image data to ground stations based in the U.S., analyze it, then
push it back into theater on demand. To date, the company has
validated the concept in scenarios involving exchanges between Global
Hawk; Joint STARS and ground users; and exchanges between a Global
Hawk surrogate; a Fire Scout surrogate and ground users.
Northrop Grumman Integrated Systems is a premier aerospace and defense
systems integration organization. Headquartered in El Segundo, Calif.,
it designs, develops, produces and supports integrated systems and
subsystems optimized for use in networks. For government and civil
customers worldwide, Integrated Systems delivers best-value solutions,
products and services that support military and homeland defense
missions in the areas of intelligence, surveillance and
reconnaissance; space access; battle management command and control;
and integrated strike warfare.
Members of the news media may receive our releases via e-mail by
registering at: http://www.northropgrumman.com/cgi-bin/regist_form.cgi
LEARN MORE ABOUT US: Northrop Grumman news releases, product
information, photos and video clips are available on the Internet at:
http://www.northropgrumman.com. Information specific to the Integrated
Systems sector is available at: www.is.northropgrumman.com/index.html
CONTACT: John Vosilla (516) 575-5119
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All Bad
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(snip)
So to develop the kind of information transfer between an aircraft
such as the E2-C and the RQ8 UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) described
in the Naval exercise below, you would have needed no experience with
the technology/software required for the operation of UAV's? Doesn't
AB: Maybe it is a problem with the googled version of reality, but I am a
computer scientist. When I worked for PMA-231 I worked on modernizing the
computer infrastructure. I had no tie-ins with UAVs or Hornets.
the article below, entitled "First real-time information sharing among
manned, unmanned Navy platform enables rapid execution of precision
strike mission", describe how "the Navy/Northrop Grumman team created
a non-proprietary, open-architecture network for this demonstration
using commercial-off-the-shelf equipment", to link the E2-C with a
UAV, a simulated aircraft carrier, and a Hornet in an 'open
architecture' environment? As the article also states, "the team for
this battle management command and control demonstration comprised
elements of the Naval Air Systems Command's PMA-231 (E-2C)" of which
you have served as Open Architecture IPT Lead. Are you still saying
that you have absolutely no experience/expertise at any level with the
systems required for the operation/system integration of UAV's?
http://www.irconnect.com/noc/pages/news_printer.html?d=57052&print=1
AB: I never worked on UAVs. You don't understand English? You don't
understand that in your research on my background, you found nothing about
UAVs? Your logic circuits only work when you want them to? You and your
co-parrot say I worked on UAVs and it is clear to me that you feel free to
make stuff up as you go along. At least I _pretend_ when I'm pretending you
are Bill Ayers from Chicago; you and W. Azal really lose track of your
fantasies.
Toodles!
- All Bad
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First, go fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on! Second, so you
are asserting the following below to be a lie? Yes or no!
http://www.paxpartnership.org/events/index.cfm?stage=show&eventid=844...
Guest Speaker: Pat Kohli
Pat is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for
PMA-231
as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint
Inigoes
for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
computer Information Systems from Florida Tech.
So to develop the kind of information transfer between an aircraft
such as the E2-C and the RQ8 UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) described
in the Naval exercise below, you would have needed no experience
with
the technology/software required for the operation of UAV's? Doesn't
PaulHammond
maybeiam...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 2, 11:28�pm, "All Bad" <AllBad_notrea...@md.metrocast.net>
> wrote:
> > <maybeiam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:9e7f1091-e267-42d3...@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > Pat Kohli, maybe you should approach Baha'i Masood Tayebi's business
> > > interest, Kratos Defense and Security Solutions (http://
> > >www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Wireless_Facilities) about working
> > > on some guidance systems for their UAV's, since this area is one of
> > > your specialities? By the sounds of this report, they appear to be
> > > going 'great guns'.
> >
> > Like W. Azal, you seem to have some random naval aviation association thing
> > going on.�You don't do random associations to literacy or race relations.
>
> Because these associations (teaching literacy/race relations) aren't
> so ridiculously incongruent as the position of being a fierce defender
> of the Baha'is (and hence its core ideologies, which would surely have
> to include peace, and non-violent conflict resolution?), and being a
> weapons expert at the same time. In this context, that is the key
> contradiction, and the one that deserves to be highlighted.
>
Maybe you ought to do some actual research in what Baha'is REALLY say
about world government and world peace etc, rather than simply
assuming you know
"would surely have to include"?
Baha'is believe in the establishment of a world army, which would
monitor conflicts around the world. If anything, they are critical of
the UN because it doesn't have ENOUGH teeth to make any resolutions
stick, and it's too beholden to national interests, national support,
national armies donating their troops and national agendas - and the
US can veto resolutions that say anything bad about Israel, while
Russia and China can veto anything that THEY don't like about, say,
Tibet...
Baha'is believe in world peace, but they aren't hippies.
maybe...@gmail.com
What a perfect opportunity, Paul, for you to enlighten us regarding
some of the finer aspects of the application of Baha'i law, especially
in the matter of the establishment of the World Army and the 'keeping
of the peace'. Obviously, the Kitab-i Aqdas prohibits the carrying of
weapons (as well as from pre-marital or extra-marital sex and the
consumption of alcohol) under law (http://www.estig.ipbeja.pt/
~ac_direito/bahai-law.pdf). Now, I understand that these laws are
somewhat flexible according to interpretation (by the UHJ for
example). Given the best current interpretation of Baha'i law, how
will this World Army/Police operate? Who will administer the World
Army- the Baha'i administrative order, or the UN (assuming it exists)?
Will Baha'is be allowed to join and carry weapons? Will it be
comprised solely of Baha'is policing both Baha'i and non-Bahai's? Will
it have its own prison system? Will 'covenant breakers' be imprisoned?
Perhaps most importantly, who will manufacture the weapons for it?
Will that be solely a 'government' enterprise (or an enterprise
directed by the Baha'i administrative order), or will private
corporate citizens get weapons contracts? Do you imagine Baha'i
weapons manufacturers (like the Tayebi family) would get preferential
treatment when it comes to the award of contracts for the World Army
over non-Baha'i weapons manufacturers?
I look forward to your detailed and considered thoughts on these
issues, and the exposition of the Baha'i principle's underlying them.
All Bad
<maybe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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AB: Sometimes it is good to check the text that is being cited. You can do
this while waiting on Paul or W. Azal to tell you what the Kitabi Aqdas
says.
"It hath been forbidden you to carry arms unless essential, and permitted
you to attire yourselves in silk."
http://www.bahai-library.com/writings/bahaullah/aqdas/aqdas.html#K159
AB: So, one would not just walk around with a sword on one's belt, just as
one would wear a tie or a scarf. Use of a weapon would be essential to
hunting, though. There are notes on how the text has been inerpreted to
sort out what is essential.
http://www.bahai-library.com/writings/bahaullah/aqdas/notes.html#n173
consumption of alcohol) under law (http://www.estig.ipbeja.pt/
~ac_direito/bahai-law.pdf). Now, I understand that these laws are
somewhat flexible according to interpretation (by the UHJ for
AB: The UHJ would not be interpreting the Kitabi Aqdas. Guess again.
- All Bad
maybe...@gmail.com
>
> consumption of alcohol) under law (http://www.estig.ipbeja.pt/
> ~ac_direito/bahai-law.pdf). Now, I understand that these laws are
> somewhat flexible according to interpretation (by the UHJ for
>
> AB: The UHJ would not be interpreting the Kitabi Aqdas. Guess again.
>
> - All Bad
>
operations and composition of the World Army raised below- which you
have completely avoided answering.
All Bad
<maybe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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AB: I'd go with Sikhs, or Gurhas, rather than Baha'is, but I'm not some
future world government. It would be for the world government to work out.
- All Bad
Sock-Puppet'ullah
> > On Jan 2, 11:28 pm, "All Bad" <AllBad_notrea...@md.metrocast.net>
> > wrote:
> > > <maybeiam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:9e7f1091-e267-42d3...@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Pat Kohli, maybe you should approach Baha'i Masood Tayebi's business
> > > > interest, Kratos Defense and Security Solutions (http://
> > > >www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Wireless_Facilities) about working
> > > > on some guidance systems for their UAV's, since this area is one of
> > > > your specialities? By the sounds of this report, they appear to be
> > > > going 'great guns'.
>
> > > Like W. Azal, you seem to have some random naval aviation association thing
> > > going on. You don't do random associations to literacy or race relations.
>
> > Because these associations (teaching literacy/race relations) aren't
> > so ridiculously incongruent as the position of being a fierce defender
> > of the Baha'is (and hence its core ideologies, which would surely have
> > to include peace, and non-violent conflict resolution?), and being a
> > weapons expert at the same time. In this context, that is the key
> > contradiction, and the one that deserves to be highlighted.
>
> Maybe you ought to do some actual research in what Baha'is REALLY say
> about world government and world peace etc, rather than simply
> assuming you know
Maybe you should change your lipstick to something other than bahaim-
ass. Where did you run off to, limey ponce? You still owe a response
on another thread!
W
Sock-Puppet'ullah
wrote:
> AB: Sometimes it is good to check the text that is being cited. You can do
> this while waiting on Paul or W. Azal to tell you what the Kitabi Aqdas
> says.
> "It hath been forbidden you to carry arms unless essential, and permitted
> you to attire yourselves in silk."http://www.bahai-library.com/writings/bahaullah/aqdas/aqdas.html#K159
But you can allow mercernaries and blood-thirsty Zionists to carry
your arms for you like on the grounds of the bahaim WC on Mt Doom,
like shown in BIMBY, here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU
Or be like Massih Tayyebi and Pat KKKholi and develop the arms that
other people use to massacre each other, while such money for arms
dealing and general massacres is then re-circulated back into the
bahaim fund and personal enrichment of the bahaim establishment.
<bs snip>
W
Sock-Puppet'ullah
wrote:
> AB: I'd go with Sikhs, or Gurhas, rather than Baha'is, but I'm not some
> future world government. It would be for the world government to work out.
Believe it, by time we are even anywhere near such a thing, you and
your like would've been put in your well-deserved graves long ago!
W
Sock-Puppet'ullah
> Baha'is believe in world peace, but they aren't hippies.
No, they are Fascist-Globalists. Hitler was too!
W
All Bad
unreported earnings. Other days you claim I am involved in the
international arms trade. One thing is consistent about you, though, you
talk out of both sides of your mouth, and it is not so hard to see that much
of what you do say is simply projection. I'm left wondering who would pay
you to post here?
- All Bad
"Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sock-Puppet'ullah
wrote:
> Some days you say I work for an alleged Baha'i IT Committee and have
> unreported earnings.
Which you do.
> Other days you claim I am involved in the
> international arms trade.
Which you are (see above the question you refuse to answer).
> One thing is consistent about you, though, you
> talk out of both sides of your mouth, and it is not so hard to see that much
> of what you do say is simply projection.
Take your Barnes&Noble self-help section pop-psychology and shove it,
KKKholi. You are a war-criminal, a hack, a tax-cheat, a LIAR and a
malicious glaze eyed cultist all rolled into one. No one pays me
anything to be here to be in your collective stinking cosa nostra, war-
criminal faces. Yours, on the other hand, has already been proven to
be another story.
Now care to answer this below instead of your typical sleight of hands
and misdirections, or are you too scared from answering the fact that
you are a hand in glove contributor to the war-machine and thus a
certified baby-killer:
All Bad
"Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 5, 10:18 pm, "All Bad" <AllBad_notrea...@md.metrocast.net>
wrote:
> Some days you say I work for an alleged Baha'i IT Committee and have
> unreported earnings.
Which you do.
> Other days you claim I am involved in the
> international arms trade.
Which you are (see above the question you refuse to answer).
> One thing is consistent about you, though, you
> talk out of both sides of your mouth, and it is not so hard to see that
> much
> of what you do say is simply projection.
Take your Barnes&Noble self-help section pop-psychology and shove it,
KKKholi. You are a war-criminal, a hack, a tax-cheat, a LIAR and a
malicious glaze eyed cultist all rolled into one. No one pays me
anything to be here to be in your collective stinking cosa nostra, war-
criminal faces. Yours, on the other hand, has already been proven to
be another story.
Now care to answer this below instead of your typical sleight of hands
AB: The question has been answered. Do you need literacy tutoring, too?
Maybe I can put you in touch.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/3c5eb1b0c20d3962
- All Bad
Sock-Puppet'ullah
All Bad
> http://www.paxpartnership.org/events/index.cfm?stage=show&eventid=844...
> Guest Speaker: Pat Kohli
>
>
> Pat is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for
> PMA-231
> as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
> Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint
> Inigoes
> for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
> recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
> maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
> did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
> computer Information Systems from Florida Tech.
>
>
> So to develop the kind of information transfer between an aircraft
> such as the E2-C and the RQ8 UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) described
> in the Naval exercise below, you would have needed no experience
> with
> the technology/software required for the operation of UAV's?
AB: The question has been answered. Do you need literacy tutoring, too?
Maybe I can put you in touch.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/3c5eb1b0c20d3962
> Doesn't
> the article below, entitled "First real-time information sharing
> among
> manned, unmanned Navy platform enables rapid execution of precision
> strike mission", describe how "the Navy/Northrop Grumman team created
> a non-proprietary, open-architecture network for this demonstration
> using commercial-off-the-shelf equipment", to link the E2-C with a
> UAV, a simulated aircraft carrier, and a Hornet in an 'open
> architecture' environment?
AB: It looks to me like an NGC press release. I do not know what it is
about beyond the text itself. I was not there; did not participate even
remotely. I believe I was not part of that exercise at all.
> As the article also states, "the team for
> this battle management command and control demonstration comprised
> elements of the Naval Air Systems Command's PMA-231 (E-2C)" of which
> you have served as Open Architecture IPT Lead. Are you still saying
> that you have absolutely no experience/expertise at any level with
> the
> systems required for the operation/system integration of UAV's?
>
AB: The question has been answered. Do you need literacy tutoring, too?
Viv
>
> AB: The question has been answered. Do you need literacy tutoring, too?
> Maybe I can put you in touch.
>
Nima's standard - and, as usual with him, dishonest - way of working.
Post questions, then when they're answered and he doesn't like the
answers, post them again and again and again climing they're
"unanswered".
We should let him get back to his mud-wrestling with the other deeply
unpleasant bigoted conspiracy theorist.
V.
maybe...@gmail.com
So, Viv, as a Baha'i,
1) how do you feel Pat's involvement with supporting the design of
missile guidance systems?
"Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles."
2) how do you feel about a prominent Baha'i family like the Tayebi's
having full scale involvement with the manufacture and development of
weapons/military technology? And having just landed a contract which
will bring their business worth in 2009 to $400 million, and (amongst
other things) "Significantly Enhances Kratos' C4ISR Capabilities and
Provides
Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) Products and Technology"?
Are we going to hear any criticism from you about these issues (which
is what this thread is REALLY about)? I don't suppose you find these
issues 'deeply unpleasant'?
All Bad
<maybe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 11:26 pm, Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > AB: The question has been answered. Do you need literacy tutoring, too?
> > Maybe I can put you in touch.
>
> Nima's standard - and, as usual with him, dishonest - way of working.
> Post questions, then when they're answered and he doesn't like the
> answers, post them again and again and again climing they're
> "unanswered".
>
> We should let him get back to his mud-wrestling with the other deeply
> unpleasant bigoted conspiracy theorist.
>
> V.
So, Viv, as a Baha'i,
1) how do you feel Pat's involvement with supporting the design of
missile guidance systems?
AB: Can you read English, either? The missile guidance is in the missile.
The weapon control system for the missile is a commercial computer that
stays on the ship. If you want to ask folks how they feel about something
that someone did, go ahead and ask, but what you are asking is back to Bill
Ayers, "How do you feel about MIA1 bombing government buildings to protest
the Vietnam war?" Geddit?
"Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles."
2) how do you feel about a prominent Baha'i family like the Tayebi's
having full scale involvement with the manufacture and development of
weapons/military technology? And having just landed a contract which
will bring their business worth in 2009 to $400 million, and (amongst
other things) "Significantly Enhances Kratos' C4ISR Capabilities and
Provides
Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) Products and Technology"?
AB: Did you sort out yet that I have nothing to do w/ UAVs, ever?
- All Bad
PaulHammond
PaulHammond
Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
Guess again, Nima. I don't owe you a damn thing.
PaulHammond
maybeiam...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm NOT a Baha'i, but I'll give you my take on question 2.
From the information you posted, Tayebi seemed like an interesting
person - certainly a big name in the San Diego area.
However, you've asserted that he's a "prominent Baha'i" and that his
family are a "prominent Baha'i family" - those two are just
assertions. I'm pretty sure that he's a big cheese in San Diego - but
I'm not sure he's a "prominent Baha'i" in the same way that, say,
Robert Henderson is - I have a feeling that he's more of a prominent
businessmen who happens to be a Baha'i, just as, say, Tony Blair is a
prominent man who happens to be a Christian, while the Archbishop of
Canterbury, or the Pope are prominent Christians.
Now, the two things you have against him are 1) that his companies are
involved in making weapons and 2) that he appears to have some low-
level of connection with another San Diego figure who apparently got
involved in bribing a senator.
So far, you've thrown a bit of dirt around, and suggested that we
should be as shocked as you are.
But, so far as I know, manufacturing weapons is not an illegal
activity - unless you really believe that no-one should ever make
weapons, you certainly haven't proved that Tayebi has done anything
wrong. And it seems like he's quite active in his community as far as
making charitable donations, helping out other Iranians, etc.
QUite frankly, I'd rather meet him at a party than you, and until you
come up with anything specific, I have no reason to think badly of him
on the evidence you have presented so far.
Basically, you just seem to have a problem with anyone who sets up a
successful business - which as far as I know is all that Mr Tayebi has
done to upset you.
Paul
maybe...@gmail.com
> Fuck off. It's not up to me to do your research for you.
You seem to be an expert on what the Baha'is REALLY say, and thus
perfectly placed to answer these questions:
Sock-Puppet'ullah
> > Maybe I can put you in touch.
>
> Nima's standard - and, as usual with him, dishonest - way of working.
> Post questions, then when they're answered
Pat KKKholi has no remotely answered the following, and you GO FUCK
YOURSELF....
http://www.paxpartnership.org/events/index.cfm?stage=show&eventid=844...
Guest Speaker: Pat Kohli
Pat is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for
PMA-231
as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint
Inigoes
for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
computer Information Systems from Florida Tech.
So to develop the kind of information transfer between an aircraft
such as the E2-C and the RQ8 UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) described
in the Naval exercise below, you would have needed no experience
with
the technology/software required for the operation of UAV's? Doesn't
the article below, entitled "First real-time information sharing
among
manned, unmanned Navy platform enables rapid execution of precision
strike mission", describe how "the Navy/Northrop Grumman team created
a non-proprietary, open-architecture network for this demonstration
using commercial-off-the-shelf equipment", to link the E2-C with a
UAV, a simulated aircraft carrier, and a Hornet in an 'open
architecture' environment? As the article also states, "the team for
Sock-Puppet'ullah
You FUCK off, poncey asshole. The research presented here by MIA is
unassailable which is why KKKHOLI refuses to answer the following:
maybe...@gmail.com
wrote:
> <maybeiam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4d5e9347-4e27-471c...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 6, 11:26 pm, Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > AB: The question has been answered. Do you need literacy tutoring, too?
> > > Maybe I can put you in touch.
>
> > Nima's standard - and, as usual with him, dishonest - way of working.
> > Post questions, then when they're answered and he doesn't like the
> > answers, post them again and again and again climing they're
> > "unanswered".
>
> > We should let him get back to his mud-wrestling with the other deeply
> > unpleasant bigoted conspiracy theorist.
>
> > V.
>
> So, Viv, as a Baha'i,
>
> 1) how do you feel Pat's involvement with supporting the design of
> missile guidance systems?
>
> AB: Can you read English, either? The missile guidance is in the missile.
> The weapon control system for the missile is a commercial computer that
> stays on the ship.
And the weapon control system helps determine the target, and assists
in launching the missile and guiding it to its target? To further
enlighten me Pat, by what means and via what pieces of hardware
exactly, is targeting information gathered and processed?
If you want to ask folks how they feel about something
> that someone did, go ahead and ask, but what you are asking is back to Bill
> Ayers, "How do you feel about MIA1 bombing government buildings to protest
> the Vietnam war?" Geddit?
>
> "Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
> did weapon control systems for guided missiles."
>
> 2) how do you feel about a prominent Baha'i family like the Tayebi's
> having full scale involvement with the manufacture and development of
> weapons/military technology? And having just landed a contract which
> will bring their business worth in 2009 to $400 million, and (amongst
> other things) "Significantly Enhances Kratos' C4ISR Capabilities and
> Provides
> Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) Products and Technology"?
>
> AB: Did you sort out yet that I have nothing to do w/ UAVs, ever?
> - All Bad
Naturally, no one person ever works on a project in isolation. They
work in teams and organizations which FACILITATE the operation of
systems of hardware and software, and judging by the developments
within the fields in which you work, the operation of UAV's and UACV's
is significantly improved in Open Architecture environments, is
implemented in conjunction with the PM231 for targeting purposes, and
is crucial to the implementation of Network Centric Warfare. You're
involved with a system that is part of the problem, Pat.
http://www.washingtontechnology.com/print/20_14/26588-1.html.
Washington Technology home > 07/18/05 issue
07/18/05; Vol. 20 No. 14
Network-centric warfare takes flight
UAVs become a critical link on the battlefield
By DOUG BEIZER
Information gathering and sharing are the essence of network-centric
warfare: getting data to the warfighters who need it, when they need
it. And a key method for gathering that data is with unmanned aerial
vehicles.
Global Hawk UAVs from Northrop Grumman Corp. performed about 5 percent
of the surveillance missions during Operation Iraqi Freedom, but the
vehicles were responsible for collecting about 55 percent of the
information on time-sensitive targets, according to an Air Force
report.
"That's how it's going to be from now on," said Shai Shammai
consulting manager for aerospace and defense at market research firm
Frost & Sullivan of New York. "In Iraq and Afghanistan, UAVs already
have proven themselves to deliver real-time intelligence, surveillance
and reconnaissance at a level of capability unheard of or unseen
before."
http://www.mors.org/publications/phalanx/dec00/feature.htm.
What is Network Centric Warfare?
Network-centric operations are military operations that are enabled by
the networking of the force.a Network-centric operations provide a
force with access to a new, previously unreachable region of the
information domain. The ability to operate in this region provides
warfighters with a new type of information advantage, an advantage
broadly characterized by significantly improved capabilities for
sharing and accessing information. Network-centric warfare enables
warfighters to leverage this information advantage to dramatically
increase combat power through self-synchronization and other network-
centric operations.
Across a broad spectrum of mission areas, evidence for the power of
network-centric warfare is emerging from experiments and exercises.
Evidence collected to date supports a strong correlation between
information sharing, improved situational awareness, and significantly
increased combat power. A common theme in this evidence is the
critical role of modified (in some cases new) tactics, techniques and
procedures, in enabling warfighters to effectively leverage an
information advantage.
Network-centric operations focus on the tactical and operational
levels of warfare, but they impact all levels of military activity
from the tactical to the strategic. At the operational level, network-
centric operations provide commanders with the capability to generate
precise warfighting effects at an unprecedented operational tempo,
creating conditions for the rapid lock-out of adversary courses of
action.
http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/521.pd
THE CHALLENGE AND PROMISE OF NETWORK-CENTRIC WARFARE Mr. John Luddy
INTRODUCTION Networking amounts to getting the right information,
faster, to the right forces -- who in turn can take the right action,
faster, against the right objective. It shortens what is often called
the ‘kill chain’ -- detect, decide, attack, assess -- and reduces the
amount of resources required to move through each link. This is how
the Pentagon’s Office of Force Transformation describes network-
centric warfare: NCW represents a powerful set of warfighting concepts
and associated militarycapabilities that allow warfighters to take
full advantage of all available information and bring all available
assets to bear in a rapid and flexible manner. The tenets of NCW are:
A robustly networked force improves information sharing. Information
sharing enhances the quality of information and shared situational
awareness. Shared situational awareness enables collaboration and self-
synchronization, and enhances sustainability and speed of command.
These, in turn, dramatically increase mission effectiveness
These technologies operate with each other as part of a military
system, one which you are ultimately helping to FACILITATE AND
REFINE.
PATUXENT RIVER, Md. - The second of two U.S. Navy RQ-4A Global Hawk
Maritime Demonstration (GHMD) unmanned aircraft arrived on December 6
at Naval Air Station, Patuxent River, Maryland, after an 11.1 hour
flight. The aircraft flew from Edwards Air Force Base, California,
where it had been undergoing acceptance tests and supporting recent
Navy demonstrations over Hawaii.
The GHMD program is a pathfinder for a variety of Navy objectives for
its unmanned air system program. These include: the development of
maritime endurance unmanned aerial vehicle sensors; concepts of
operations; tactics, techniques, and procedures; and Fleet integration
with manned aircraft. Delivery of the second vehicle marks the
completion of GHMD’s hardware delivery under the low rate production
and development contracts.
A derivative of the Northrop-Grumman RQ-4A produced for the Air Force,
each GHMD aircraft has a wingspan of 116 feet, a length of 44 feet,
and a maximum weight of 25,600 lbs. Each aircraft can stay aloft for
over 30 hours, flying at altitudes up to 60,000 feet. The Integrated
Sensor Suite includes the legacy Air Force modes of radar and a
digital camera operating in both the visible light and infrared
wavelengths. GHMD also includes maritime modes of Maritime
Surveillance, Maritime Moving Target Indicator, Inverse Synthetic
Aperture Radar as well as 360 degree passive electronic sensors.
maybe...@gmail.com
Yes, and I'd rather meet anyone at a party than some jerk who spends
huge amounts of time standing up for a 'religion' he doesn't even
belong to or believe in, acts all surprised when you say you have a
problem with arms manufacturers who have scored multimillion dollar
contracts from one of the most corrupt and amoral administrations in
modern history, and whose early words to me included "fuck off back to
the hole you crawled out of then". (newsgroups.derkeiler.com/pdf/
Archive/Talk/talk.religion.bahai/2008-11/ msg00365.pdf)
You must be one smooth operator, honey.
Death to Haifan Bahaism
> Guess again, Nima. I don't owe you a damn thing.- Hide quoted text -
You owe MIA a response, dipshit, not me. But, no, you owe me nothing.
I, on the other hand, owe you a few hefty things, like reshaping your
face and all that.
W
Death to Haifan Bahaism
No, they are assertions of fact. The Tayyebi family are well known as
Bahaim therefore they are prominent.
> I'm pretty sure that he's a big cheese in San Diego - but
> I'm not sure he's a "prominent Baha'i" in the same way that, say,
> Robert Henderson is -
That's assuming your very narrow definition of "promiment bahaim" only
applies to members of the bahaim offiociocracy who pay you. Hozhabr
Yazdani, a close relative of the Tayyebi family, was also and is still
quite prominent yet he never was an official member of the bahaim
administration although he was responsible for laundering the some of
the investments of the bahaim officiocracy out of Iran during the
revolution.
> So far, you've thrown a bit of dirt around, and suggested that we
> should be as shocked as you are.
Your "we" are paid lackies of the system. We are not positing any of
this material for your benefit or shock value, ponce.
<bs snip>
W
Death to Haifan Bahaism
> I'm NOT a Baha'i,
How convenient for you, but BULLSHIT!
MIA,
Although half the man and the critic he was in 2003, here is one by
Stetson on the HamHead:
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
Also take a look at this thread by an old critic here, entitled
profanity Paul. Many more examples can be furnished of this obnoxious
little attack-ponce of the Bahaim offiociocracy. Profanity towards
critics of his masters is HamHead's oldest tactic in the book (he gets
it from his Infestation of Dog, baha'olagh):
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/79752259d5672040/f0a8e986275bb43a?lnk=gst&q=Stetson+on+Hammond#f0a8e986275bb43a
All Bad
<maybe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2e5f2d2b-d8ee-4aa7...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
AB: It beats me. I don't do that.
AB: 25 some odd years ago the Navy developed its own digital computers,
expensive devices of limited capability, such as the AN/UYK-20 and AN/UYK-7
computer. Navy was developing a follow-generation of digital computers, the
AN/UYK-44, UYK-43 and AYK-14, still expensive and limited. 20 some odd
years ago Navy explored using commercial computers instead of these MIL-SPEC
processors and exploring ways of hosting the software on the computers,
either running translators, or porting the source code and recompiling, or
doing major reconstruction on the software. This allows the software to run
on commercial processors like the SPARC, the PowerPC, the HP i744, x86, etc.
Hundreds of engineers, technicians and scientists have been supporting this
work. I have been one of these folks and this is what I've worked on and
understand. I'm a computer scientist, working to make the computing
environment more competitive, so that the taxpayers can get a better deal on
the computers they buy; I'm not an international arms dealer and I see you
and W as contorting the facts to try to paint me as one.
> If you want to ask folks how they feel about something
> that someone did, go ahead and ask, but what you are asking is back to
> Bill
> Ayers, "How do you feel about MIA1 bombing government buildings to protest
> the Vietnam war?" Geddit?
- All Bad
All Bad
"Death to Haifan Bahaism" <deathto...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:64838503-52dd-4b20...@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 7, 12:00 pm, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
>> I'm NOT a Baha'i,
>
> How convenient for you, but BULLSHIT!
Note, the expletive referring to barnyard organics was from W. Azal, but,
wait for the other side of the hypocrite's mouth to catch up.
>
> MIA,
>
> Although half the man and the critic he was in 2003, here is one by
> Stetson on the HamHead:
>
> "First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
> interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
> that he is probably working for them."
>
> -- Eric Stetson, September 2003
>
>
> Also take a look at this thread by an old critic here, entitled
> profanity Paul. Many more examples can be furnished of this obnoxious
> little attack-ponce of the Bahaim offiociocracy. Profanity towards
> critics of his masters is HamHead's oldest tactic in the book (he gets
> it from his Infestation of Dog, baha'olagh):
> http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/79752259d5672040/f0a8e986275bb43a?lnk=gst&q=Stetson+on+Hammond#f0a8e986275bb43a
>
Oh my!
- All Bad
All Bad
AB: No, they are misuses of the language. That the Tayyebi family is well
known as Baha'is would make them famous Baha'is; were they on the NSA, and
Counsellors, well known or not, would make them prominent. Do you need a
dictionary to parse what I wrote? Your Yazdani example might illustrate the
distinction between famous and prominent.
- All Bad
All Bad
AB: Would that, could that be an acknowledgement that you dodged out on 'the
Throwdown Outside Londowne'?
- All Bad
Sock-Puppet'ullah
wrote:
> "Death to Haifan Bahaism" <deathtobaha...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:36099498-98a6-4baf...@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 7, 11:44 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > Guess again, Nima. I don't owe you a damn thing.- Hide quoted text -
>
> You owe MIA a response, dipshit, not me. But, no, you owe me nothing.
> I, on the other hand, owe you a few hefty things, like reshaping your
> face and all that.
>
> AB: Would that, could that be an acknowledgement that you dodged out on 'the
> Throwdown Outside Londowne'?
No, it wouldn't. It would however be an acknowledgement that when the
time arrives I plan to provide Hamhead with accumulated interest of
the re-arrangement sort for his own no-show.
W
PaulHammond
At least I'm not a naive dickhead who thinks that Nima is great!
Funny how you'd point to me telling you to fuck off 2 months ago, when
I've just recently said so again.
So, you reckon that all arms manufacture is automatically illegal,
right?
Who do you want to make tanks for the army then? Or should it only be
terrorists who have access to explosives?
Sorry, but people who try to lie by innuendo make me sick.
maybe...@gmail.com
You are a total child, and your opinion is completely and utterly
worthless. I think you know it too. You come across as having a weak,
dishonorable, corruptible personality, and unfortunately chose the
wrong group of people to waste your time and energy defending.
>
> Funny how you'd point to me telling you to fuck off 2 months ago, when
> I've just recently said so again.
No it's not. The point was about some of your early words to me on
this board- and I was drawing comparisons to possible opening
conversations if we met that imaginary party, where you would have
charmingly explained to me that arms manufacturers aren't really that
bad. Then, when I'd sussed you out for the kind of man you are, you
could have told me to "fuck off back to the hole I crawled out of",
and all my suspicions would be confirmed!
>
> So, you reckon that all arms manufacture is automatically illegal,
> right?
>
> Who do you want to make tanks for the army then?
Probably not members of the Baha'i organization, who spend so much
time and energy claiming to uphold certain values.
Or should it only be
> terrorists who have access to explosives?
>
> Sorry, but people who try to lie by innuendo make me sick.
The point has never been about the legality or illegality of weapons
manufacture. Of course it's legal. The point is about who the Baha'i
administration chooses to criticize, and what activities it deems
acceptable for its members. Criticize the institution verbally, and
you get shunned and attacked relentlessly (as per the instructions in
Wahid's recent translation regarding behavior towards "The Critics of
the Cause of God (munkirin-i-amru’llah)"). Engage in the manufacture
of weapons, and involve yourself in the US military industrial
complex? Fine! No problem! Set up a 'charitable organization' that
claims to stand up for women's rights (ie the TJC), yet let other
members of the faith (ie people like the Tayebi's) engage without
criticism in the production of the very tools which Imperial powers
will use to tear apart the fabric of the societies from which those
women come, and are employed in the killing of their husbands and
their children. If the Tayebi's were just another group of arms
manufacturers, the story would be different. But they're not. They
belong to the Baha'i faith and claim to have fled Iran because of the
persecution they encountered. So what do they do? Eventually decide to
go into the weapons business.
By the way, it seems that you forget that the point about the "San
diego figure who got involved in bribing a senator" concerned Ziyad
Abduljawad, who we have discussed in other threads such as this one:
http://groups.google.com.tw/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/ec0c30d804164127
http://nationalcorruptionindex.org/pages/profile.php?profile_id=211
Ziyad Abduljawad
Last Updated: May 21, 2008
Ziyad Abduljawad, whose father, Sallahuddin, is on a list of early
al-
Qaeda financiers known as the "Golden Chain," today runs a company
with a stake in a defense contractor doing hundreds of millions of
dollars in business with the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland
Security. In 2004, Abduljawad bankrolled a controversial trip to
Saudi
Arabia for former Rep. Duke Cunningham, the Congressman now serving
an
8-year prison sentence for accepting bribes from other defense
contractors.
The San Diego Reader reported that Abduljawad controls shares in a
company called Ellumina, LLC, which in turn has a stake in SYS
Technologies, a high-tech communications and IT systems contractor to
the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security for
over $100 million, annually.
It's very interesting that you appear to believe that not a single
question need be asked regarding the nature of such a business
relationship, when the company in question is acquiring multi-million
dollar Homeland Security contracts. Again, nothing to hide? No
problem- but if people have been pulled off the street and ruthlessly
interrogated for the most minor of possible connections, BEHAVIOR SUCH
AS THIS MUST BE OPENLY QUESTIONED.
Sock-Puppet'ullah
No, you are just a dickhead as well as a few other things.
W
PaulHammond
Oh dear. You've sadly started projecting, just like your friend Nima.
> and your opinion is completely and utterly
> worthless.
I'm pretty sure I said much the same thing about your opinion a few
weeks ago.
> I think you know it too. You come across as having a weak,
> dishonorable, corruptible personality, and unfortunately chose the
> wrong group of people to waste your time and energy defending.
>
Well, we've got off the attempt to pretend to be reasonable and argue
an actual case, I see.
You really weren't doing so well with that, were you?
>
>
> > Funny how you'd point to me telling you to fuck off 2 months ago, when
> > I've just recently said so again.
>
> No it's not. The point was about some of your early words to me on
> this board- and I was drawing comparisons to possible opening
> conversations if we met that imaginary party, where you would have
> charmingly explained to me that arms manufacturers aren't really that
> bad. Then, when I'd sussed you out for the kind of man you are, you
> could have told me to "fuck off back to the hole I crawled out of",
> and all my suspicions would be confirmed!
>
Feeling's entirely mutual - everything I suspected about a woman who
likes Nima's bullshit has turned out to be true.
>
>
> > So, you reckon that all arms manufacture is automatically illegal,
> > right?
>
> > Who do you want to make tanks for the army then?
>
> Probably not members of the Baha'i organization, who spend so much
> time and energy claiming to uphold certain values.
>
But, they DON'T claim to uphold the values of "never making any
weapons for anyone or abolishing all armies in the world".
Apart from the fact that YOU think any arms manufacturer is
automatically disgusting, what actual evidence have you of any
wrongdoing?
It's certainly possible that their might be corruption or bribery
involved, in any business, not just businesses that are involved in
making guns, tanks or aeroplanes.
But you haven't provided any kind of evidence that this really is
going on here - just some dodgy smears about an association of shares
with another businessman who was accused of bribing what seems like
one SINGLE senator.
> Or should it only be
>
> > terrorists who have access to explosives?
>
> > Sorry, but people who try to lie by innuendo make me sick.
>
> The point has never been about the legality or illegality of weapons
> manufacture. Of course it's legal. The point is about who the Baha'i
> administration chooses to criticize, and what activities it deems
> acceptable for its members.
You appear to have been misinformed about what is "against Baha'i
values" - and I don't believe you anyway.
You are going around parading your shock and horror that anybody makes
weapons as if it is somehow axiomatic that everyone else must share
your naiveity.
If you haven't worked it out yet, I dont.
Criticize the institution verbally, and
> you get shunned and attacked relentlessly (as per the instructions in
> Wahid's recent translation regarding behavior towards "The Critics of
> the Cause of God (munkirin-i-amru’llah)"). Engage in the manufacture
> of weapons, and involve yourself in the US military industrial
> complex? Fine! No problem! Set up a 'charitable organization' that
> claims to stand up for women's rights (ie the TJC), yet let other
> members of the faith (ie people like the Tayebi's) engage without
> criticism in the production of the very tools which Imperial powers
> will use to tear apart the fabric of the societies from which those
> women come, and are employed in the killing of their husbands and
> their children. If the Tayebi's were just another group of arms
> manufacturers, the story would be different. But they're not. They
> belong to the Baha'i faith and claim to have fled Iran because of the
> persecution they encountered. So what do they do? Eventually decide to
> go into the weapons business.
>
> By the way, it seems that you forget that the point about the "San
> diego figure who got involved in bribing a senator" concerned Ziyad
> Abduljawad, who we have discussed in other threads such as this one:
>
I didn't forget it. But YOU forgot to provide evidence that anything
beyond an incidental and circumstantial contact with this man was
involved.
And I'll remind you that so far, there's not anything against
Abduljawad other than allegations.
> http://groups.google.com.tw/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/t...
> AS THIS MUST BE OPENLY QUESTIONED.- Hide quoted text -
>
maybe...@gmail.com
And you're throwing about Jungian terminology about as well as Pat
Kohli attempts to, with roughly the same effect.
>
> > and your opinion is completely and utterly
> > worthless.
>
> I'm pretty sure I said much the same thing about your opinion a few
> weeks ago.
>
> > I think you know it too. You come across as having a weak,
> > dishonorable, corruptible personality, and unfortunately chose the
> > wrong group of people to waste your time and energy defending.
>
> Well, we've got off the attempt to pretend to be reasonable and argue
> an actual case, I see.
No, I'm still arguing an actual case, and being far more reasonable
about it than terming someone a 'naive dickhead'.
>
> You really weren't doing so well with that, were you?
Please.
>
>
>
> > > Funny how you'd point to me telling you to fuck off 2 months ago, when
> > > I've just recently said so again.
>
> > No it's not. The point was about some of your early words to me on
> > this board- and I was drawing comparisons to possible opening
> > conversations if we met that imaginary party, where you would have
> > charmingly explained to me that arms manufacturers aren't really that
> > bad. Then, when I'd sussed you out for the kind of man you are, you
> > could have told me to "fuck off back to the hole I crawled out of",
> > and all my suspicions would be confirmed!
>
> Feeling's entirely mutual - everything I suspected about a woman who
> likes Nima's bullshit has turned out to be true.
>
>
>
> > > So, you reckon that all arms manufacture is automatically illegal,
> > > right?
>
> > > Who do you want to make tanks for the army then?
>
> > Probably not members of the Baha'i organization, who spend so much
> > time and energy claiming to uphold certain values.
>
> But, they DON'T claim to uphold the values of "never making any
> weapons for anyone or abolishing all armies in the world".
This certainly clarifies the issue, and sheds interesting light on the
hidden attitudes of the organization.
>
> Apart from the fact that YOU think any arms manufacturer is
> automatically disgusting, what actual evidence have you of any
> wrongdoing?
>
> It's certainly possible that their might be corruption or bribery
> involved, in any business, not just businesses that are involved in
> making guns, tanks or aeroplanes.
>
> But you haven't provided any kind of evidence that this really is
> going on here - just some dodgy smears about an association of shares
> with another businessman who was accused of bribing what seems like
> one SINGLE senator.
Nice to see how blase' you are about these issues. It explains a
lot.
>
> > Or should it only be
>
> > > terrorists who have access to explosives?
>
> > > Sorry, but people who try to lie by innuendo make me sick.
>
> > The point has never been about the legality or illegality of weapons
> > manufacture. Of course it's legal. The point is about who the Baha'i
> > administration chooses to criticize, and what activities it deems
> > acceptable for its members.
>
> You appear to have been misinformed about what is "against Baha'i
> values" - and I don't believe you anyway.
You might want to let some of your other Baha'i friends know about
this.
http://badiblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/crash.html
"The Badi Blog"
I am an essayist specializing in the Bahá'í Principles."
(excerpt from complete article accessible at link above)
"Just as it was when Baha'u'llah wrote the kings of Europe, the
world's wealth is being skimmed off not only into the pockets of the
rich, but also into means to protect them, that is, arms research,
weapons manufacture and oversize defence expenditures. At the same
time those areas of the economy that affect us most, our homes,
neighbourhoods and the infrastructure that maintains them, remain
primitive, underfunded and neglected.
How can we reverse this flow of funds so that it goes into what is
ultimately most productive, human beings, starting with the poorest
and most in need? The basic moral lesson of this crisis is that
materialism is a virus that needs vigorous measures to defeat. Like
any disease, it is invisible. It attacks from where the eye cannot
see; its fever permeates our thinking."
>
> You are going around parading your shock and horror that anybody makes
> weapons as if it is somehow axiomatic that everyone else must share
> your naiveity.
What exactly am I being naive about?
>
> If you haven't worked it out yet, I dont.
That doesn't surprise me in the least.
>
> Criticize the institution verbally, and
>
>
>
> > you get shunned and attacked relentlessly (as per the instructions in
> > Wahid's recent translation regarding behavior towards "The Critics of
> > the Cause of God (munkirin-i-amru’llah)"). Engage in the manufacture
> > of weapons, and involve yourself in the US military industrial
> > complex? Fine! No problem! Set up a 'charitable organization' that
> > claims to stand up for women's rights (ie the TJC), yet let other
> > members of the faith (ie people like the Tayebi's) engage without
> > criticism in the production of the very tools which Imperial powers
> > will use to tear apart the fabric of the societies from which those
> > women come, and are employed in the killing of their husbands and
> > their children. If the Tayebi's were just another group of arms
> > manufacturers, the story would be different. But they're not. They
> > belong to the Baha'i faith and claim to have fled Iran because of the
> > persecution they encountered. So what do they do? Eventually decide to
> > go into the weapons business.
>
> > By the way, it seems that you forget that the point about the "San
> > diego figure who got involved in bribing a senator" concerned Ziyad
> > Abduljawad, who we have discussed in other threads such as this one:
>
> I didn't forget it. But YOU forgot to provide evidence that anything
> beyond an incidental and circumstantial contact with this man was
> involved.
You mean the pictures of them together at an event held in honor of
the Senator at the center of the bribery claims, and the Securities
and Exchange Comsission Documents, detailing their significant
business involvement over a number of years, which I will gladly post
again? Oh right, maybe the Tayebi's don't know who they do business
with.
http://www.ranchandcoast.com/June2004/gatherings.html
"The elegant Fairbanks Ranch home of Patsy Samson was the setting for
an event held in honor of congressman Randy “Duke” Cunningham.
>
> And I'll remind you that so far, there's not anything against
> Abduljawad other than allegations.
Allegations which should be investigated- which is my point.
> ...
>
> read more »
maybe...@gmail.com
So what does this mean then?
http://www.bupc.org/solution-of-peace.html
Baha'i Solution for Peace
November 15, 2002
The Baha'i Council of Pitkin, Eagle and Garfield counties is opposed
to war or any use of military force to solve the differences of our
nation with the country of Iraq. The following statement from the
Universal House of Justice, the Head of the Baha'i Faith, was
published on Jan. 30, 1998.
"The Second International Baha'i Council/Universal House of Justice
(IBC/UHJ) disapproves of and condemns the continued sanctions on Iraq
and any further military action or violence against the people of
Iraq. These acts are the cause of great human suffering. In the
interest of basic human rights the leaders of the aggressing nations
should put down their arms and resolve these difficulties with
consultation."
Unbridled militarism and continued violence against the people of Iraq
will only engender further violence and fan the flames of religious
fanaticism and hatred. Jesus Christ himself warned, "those who live by
the sword, die by the sword" (Matt. 26:52).
The United Nations-imposed economic sanctions on Iraq have killed 1.5
million innocent civilians, mostly children, and are causing massive
suffering to countless others. How much longer must this unnecessary
death and misery continue?
Abdu'l-Baha, son of the founder of the Baha'I Faith, and its perfect
exemplar, said: "O ye individuals of humanity, find ye means for the
stoppage of this wholesale murder and bloodshed. Now is the appointed
time! Now is the opportune time! Arise ye ... and unfurl the Flag of
Universal Peace and dam the irresistible fury of this raging torrent
which is wreaking havoc and ruin everywhere" (Abdu'l-Baha: Star of the
West).
In light of these atrocities, we must proclaim that the Baha'i Faith
is not pro-Saddam, pro-Muslim or pro-Iraqi, but is unequivocally pro-
justice.
We feel the attempt by the U.S., under the auspices of U.N. weapons
inspections, to disarm Iraq is unjust. It is an illusion to reason
that humans can live in a civilized, just, global community, with some
nations who patently pursue the manufacture of more and more
sophisticated nuclear weaponry, while other nations are forced to
disarm.
True peace will only occur through complete and total disarmament,
with nations maintaining only a small arsenal to preserve internal
security.
Abdu'l-Baha explains: "As to the question of disarmament, all nations
must disarm at the same time. It will not do at all ... that some
nations shall lay down their arms while others, their neighbors,
remain armed. The peace of the world must be brought about by
international agreement. All nations must agree to disarm
simultaneously. No nation can follow a peace policy while its neighbor
remains warlike. There is no justice in that."
Therefore, any kind of peace resulting from the disarmament of Iraq
will not be true peace so long as any other country still possesses
weapons of mass destruction. This would not be peace, but tyranny, for
peace without justice is tyranny. A different plan of action is
required to bring about true peace.
Baha'u'llah, the founder of the Baha'i Faith, fulfills the prophecies
for the Second Coming of Christ. Over 100 years ago, Baha'u'llah
revealed the blueprint for a democratically elected spiritual world
government founded on justice, that vouchsafes universal human rights,
establishes a spiritual solution to the economic problem, ensures
absolute equality between men and women, and protects the freedom of
speech for all. This is the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in
heaven, that Jesus Christ told us to pray for in the Lord's Prayer
(Matt. 6:9-13).
Baha'u'llah's plan institutes the Universal House of Justice which is
none other than the "House of the Lord" promised and prophesied in the
Old Testament in which "all nations shall flow unto it" and "nation
shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war
anymore." (Isaiah 2:2-4) The descendant of King David must be the
President of Baha'u'llah's Universal House of Justice so we can
distinguish it from fakes, frauds and imitations. This is God's Plan
for peace; that nations may settle their differences at a council
table and not through implements of war, so that all people,
regardless of race or nationality, should live as one human family in
amity and tranquility.
For more information about the Baha'i Faith, or to contact the
Universal House of Justice, visit www.uhj.net, or contact the Colorado
Baha'i Center.
Adam Sippola
Baha'i Council
(Aspen Times)
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PaulHammond
maybeiam...@gmail.com wrote:
And, dropping intelligent-seeming buzzwords is not helping you to look
like an interlectual.
> >
> > > �and your opinion is completely and utterly
> > > worthless.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I said much the same thing about your opinion a few
> > weeks ago.
> >
> > > �I think you know it too. You come across as having a weak,
> > > dishonorable, corruptible personality, and unfortunately chose the
> > > wrong group of people to waste your time and energy defending.
> >
> > Well, we've got off the attempt to pretend to be reasonable and argue
> > an actual case, I see.
>
> No, I'm still arguing an actual case, and being far more reasonable
> about it than terming someone a 'naive dickhead'.
>
> >
> > You really weren't doing so well with that, were you?
>
> Please.
>
Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > Funny how you'd point to me telling you to fuck off 2 months ago, when
> > > > I've just recently said so again.
> >
> > > No it's not. The point was about some of your early words to me on
> > > this board- and I was drawing comparisons to possible opening
> > > conversations if we met that imaginary party, where you would have
> > > charmingly explained to me that arms manufacturers aren't really that
> > > bad. Then, when I'd sussed you out for the kind of man you are, you
> > > could have told me to "fuck off back to the hole I crawled out of",
> > > and all my suspicions would be confirmed!
> >
> > Feeling's entirely mutual - everything I suspected about a woman who
> > likes Nima's bullshit has turned out to be true.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > So, you reckon that all arms manufacture is automatically illegal,
> > > > right?
> >
> > > > Who do you want to make tanks for the army then?
> >
> > > Probably not members of the Baha'i organization, who spend so much
> > > time and energy claiming to uphold certain values.
> >
> > But, they DON'T claim to uphold the values of "never making any
> > weapons for anyone or abolishing all armies in the world".
>
> This certainly clarifies the issue, and sheds interesting light on the
> hidden attitudes of the organization.
>
Oh right - now you're spinning Nima's line that everything I say, as a
NON BAHA'I, ought to be taken as an official statement by the Baha'i
Faith.
> >
> > Apart from the fact that YOU think any arms manufacturer is
> > automatically disgusting, what actual evidence have you of any
> > wrongdoing?
> >
> > It's certainly possible that their might be corruption or bribery
> > involved, in any business, not just businesses that are involved in
> > making guns, tanks or aeroplanes.
> >
> > But you haven't provided any kind of evidence that this really is
> > going on here - just some dodgy smears about an association of shares
> > with another businessman who was accused of bribing what seems like
> > one SINGLE senator.
>
> Nice to see how blase' you are about these issues. It explains a
> lot.
>
Where's your evidence that Tayebi is involved in corruption?
Or is it true that you really ARE just saying "guns are bad, m'kay"?
> >
> > > �Or should it only be
> >
> > > > terrorists who have access to explosives?
> >
> > > > Sorry, but people who try to lie by innuendo make me sick.
> >
> > > The point has never been about the legality or illegality of weapons
> > > manufacture. Of course it's legal. The point is about who the Baha'i
> > > administration chooses to criticize, and what activities it deems
> > > acceptable for its members.
> >
> > You appear to have been misinformed about what is "against Baha'i
> > values" - and I don't believe you anyway.
>
> You might want to let some of your other Baha'i friends know about
> this.
>
I am not friends with the author of "Badiblog"
> http://badiblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/crash.html
>
> "The Badi Blog"
> I am an essayist specializing in the Bah�'� Principles."
>
> (excerpt from complete article accessible at link above)
>
> "Just as it was when Baha'u'llah wrote the kings of Europe, the
> world's wealth is being skimmed off not only into the pockets of the
> rich, but also into means to protect them, that is, arms research,
> weapons manufacture and oversize defence expenditures. At the same
> time those areas of the economy that affect us most, our homes,
> neighbourhoods and the infrastructure that maintains them, remain
> primitive, underfunded and neglected.
>
> How can we reverse this flow of funds so that it goes into what is
> ultimately most productive, human beings, starting with the poorest
> and most in need? The basic moral lesson of this crisis is that
> materialism is a virus that needs vigorous measures to defeat. Like
> any disease, it is invisible. It attacks from where the eye cannot
> see; its fever permeates our thinking."
> >
> > You are going around parading your shock and horror that anybody makes
> > weapons as if it is somehow axiomatic that everyone else must share
> > your naiveity.
>
> What exactly am I being naive about?
>
Virtually everything. Beginning with the idea that anyone working for
a profit-making organisation is evil.
WHAT pictures. But so what? I didn't say that Tayebi doesn't KNOW
the guy! How many parties does a Senator invite lots of big
businessmen from his area to?
and the Securities
> and Exchange Comsission Documents, detailing their significant
> business involvement over a number of years,
I only saw figures for one month, which also involved several other
businesses in the same areas, and appeared to be people divesting
their shares.
which I will gladly post
> again? Oh right, maybe the Tayebi's don't know who they do business
> with.
>
This particular transaction just showed that the two of them happened
to be shareholders in the same company. That's nothing but
cirumstantial.
> http://www.ranchandcoast.com/June2004/gatherings.html
> "The elegant Fairbanks Ranch home of Patsy Samson was the setting for
> an event held in honor of congressman Randy �Duke� Cunningham.
>
> >
> > And I'll remind you that so far, there's not anything against
> > Abduljawad other than allegations.
>
> Allegations which should be investigated- which is my point.
>
I'll stick with "innocent until proven guilty", thanks.
Sock-Puppet'ullah
> And, dropping intelligent-seeming buzzwords is not helping you to look
> like an interlectual.
I finally figured out what your problem is and what the general
explanation for your backing of the rightwing consensus hardline
position is all about: you have a serious inferiority complex and have
no sense of social identity beyond a given groupthink. Whatever you
think of buzzwords or not, or whether you understand them or not
(which you don't), the fact of the explanation remains -- which you
have thoroughly demonstrated above you are incapable of addressing.
And as far as intellectuals go, as MIA said to you, you go worry about
addressing sci-fi programing on the BBC and leave such discussions to
the grown-ups.
<bs and paluian inferiority complex snip>
> I am not friends with the author of "Badiblog"
Yes, you are.
W
maybe...@gmail.com
You really would have to be paid to classify what I'm saying as that
simplistic.
SEC records spanning several years, Paul. Check again.
>
> and the Securities
> > and Exchange Comsission Documents, detailing their significant
> > business involvement over a number of years,
>
> I only saw figures for one month, which also involved several other
> businesses in the same areas, and appeared to be people divesting
> their shares.
>
> which I will gladly post
> > again? Oh right, maybe the Tayebi's don't know who they do business
> > with.
> >
>
> This particular transaction just showed that the two of them happened
> to be shareholders in the same company. That's nothing but
> cirumstantial.
It really must be embarassing for you sometimes. You never did reply
to this post where I laid it out in very simple terms (including more
than just one document-sigh). Do yourself a favor, Paul. Check out the
meaning of 'circumstantial', follow up on what a court would accept as
reasonable grounds to pursue a hypothetical investigation (not
necessarily of illegality, but in the pursuit of information regarding
the nature of shareholder relationships), and drop the act that
continually demands you have to act like an incredulous fool. Or even
better, continue the act somewhere where your activities don't
demonstrate that you are every inch the hack that Wahid and others
have cited you as. You also need to check your understanding of
'controlling interests' within a parent company, and investigate how
many corporate entities do business with each other (and undertake
mergers) in the absence of knowledge and consultation with the major
shareholding parties involved. And remember, don't defer to trying to
insinuate that I am NECESSARILY implying illegal behavior.
Note particularly:
(from prior thread)
The natural person who controls the voting and disposition of our
shares for Ellumina, LLC is Ziyad Abduljawad.
Under the parent company, SYS technologies, which was recently
acquired by the Tayebi owned Kratos Defense and Security Solutions:
http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2008/02/18/daily41.html
as of 2006, both Massih Tayebi (of Bridgwest, LLC,
http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_n7swmand) and Ziyad Abjuldawad
(of Ellumina LLC - http://www.secinfo.com/d16ed8.v29.htm) had
controlling share interests in these ventures under the same parent
company (ie SYS technologies) which has now been acquired by Masood
Tayebi's company, Kratos Defense and Securities.
If you think there is an equivalence between holding shares in
British
Telecom, a semi-public, semi-private, partially government owned/
controlled company, and the relationship between the business
interests/companies of the Tayebi's and Ziyad Abjuldawad, you're an
idiot. You think arguments like this would stand up in court?
> I was asking if you had any evidence that Ziyad was even a close
> friend of Tayebi,
http://www.ranchandcoast.com/June2004/gatherings.html
(describes photo in above link) Above: Ziyad Abduljawad, Amir
Moussavian, Ben Badiee, Masood Tayebi, Congressman Cunningham, Massih
Tayebi, Patsy Samson and Secretary Principi
Here are some more details (and believe me, this is just the
beginning) of their relationship as of June 2006:
http://google.brand.edgar-online.com/PeopleFilingResults.aspx?PersonI...
http://google.brand.edgar-online.com/DisplayFilingInfo.aspx?Type=HTML...
AS FILED WITH THE UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
ON JUNE 14, 2006
REGISTRATION NO. 333-133217
UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549
AMENDMENT NO. 2
TO
FORM S-3
REGISTRATION STATEMENT UNDER THE SECURITIES ACT OF 1933
SYS
The natural person who controls the voting and disposition of our
shares for BridgeWest, LLC is Massih Tayebi.
(24)
The natural person who controls the voting and disposition of our
shares for Brobeck, Phleger & Harrison is Ronald Greenspan, Chapter 7
Trustee.
(25)
The natural person who controls the voting and disposition of our
shares for the Cooke Charitable Remainder Unitrust is Clifton L.
Cooke, Jr., Trustee.
(26)
The natural person who controls the voting and disposition of our
shares for the Derby Family Trust is David Derby, Trustee.
(27)
The natural person who controls the voting and disposition of our
shares for EBLW Associates is Benjamin Frankel.
(28)
The natural person who controls the voting and disposition of our
shares for the ECI Employees Pension Plan is Kenneth R. Hartstein,
Trustee.
(29)
The natural person who controls the voting and disposition of our
shares for Ellumina, LLC is Ziyad Abduljawad.
Under the parent company, SYS technologies, which was recently
acquired by the Tayebi owned Kratos Defense and Security Solutions:
http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2008/02/18/daily41.html
as of 2006, both Massih Tayebi (of Bridgwest, LLC,
http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_n7swmand) and Ziyad Abjuldawad
(of Ellumina LLC - http://www.secinfo.com/d16ed8.v29.htm) had
controlling share interests in these ventures under the same parent
company (ie SYS technologies) which has now been acquired by Masood
Tayebi's company, Kratos Defense and Securities.
Go back to 2004, and look at the merger agreement for SYS
technologies, Bridgewest LLC, Ellumina and others.
http://library.consusgroup.com/library_pvw/1272/1272968.asp
AGREEMENT AND PLAN OF MERGER
This Agreement and Plan of Merger (this "Agreement") is made
and entered into as of March 31, 2004, by and among SYS, a California
corporation ("SYS"); Shadow Research International, Inc., a Delaware
corporation and a wholly owned subsidiary of SYS ("Subcorp");
Polexis,
Inc., a California corporation ("Polexis"); Michael Glasgow, an
individual resident in the State of California, Rich Kadel, an
individual resident in the State of California, Carlos Persichetti,
an
individual resident in the State of California, and John Marsh, an
individual resident in the State of California (collectively, the
"Polexis Principal Common Stockholders"); Nextreme Ventures, LLC, a
Delaware limited liability company, Amir Moussavian, an individual
resident in the State of California, Ellumina, LLC, a Delaware
limited
liability company, BridgeWest, LLC, a Delaware limited liability
company, Gladehill Development Corp., a Nevada corporation, Hayden
Trubitt, an individual resident in the State of California, and John
Benassi, an individual resident in the State of California
(collectively, the "Polexis Preferred Stockholders"). The Polexis
Principal Common Stockholders and the Polexis Preferred Stockholders
are sometimes referred to collectively herein as the "Polexis
Principal Stockholders."
Note well the section, "Ellumina, LLC, a Delaware limited liability
company, BridgeWest, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company"-
Ziyad
Abduljawad's and Massih Tayebi's companies' are both Delaware LLC's.
Now, would like to continue with the ridiculous assertion that the
Tayebi family and Ziyad Abduljawad do not have a close business/
personal association? I will remind you that this is just the
beginning? Tell your masters to go back to the drawing board and come
up with something better, and advise them that they require better
legal counsel when formulating their responses to these issues.
before we even get to the questions of whether
> Abduljawad is guilty of the things he's been accused of, or whether
> Tayebi had any connection with anything illegal that Abduljawad did,
> if he is proved guilty of something.
> > > And this chap Abduljawad - has he been arrested yet?
> > No, but has Osama? Has Zawahiri? Has any member of the Sa'udi royal
> > family associated with Bin Laden enterprises been arrested?
> And how is this relevant to whether an American citizen and
> businessmen had been found guilty of the things you're accusing him
> of.
Its relevance is that individuals have been arrested and grilled
relentlessly on the flimsiest of evidence (and sometimes in the
almost
complete absence of any) linking them to any kind of possible
terrorist groups or activities, including al-Qaeda. You have an
American citizen acquiring multi-million dollar Defense and Homeland
Security department contracts, who has maintained close business ties
to a person (ie Ziyad Abduljawad) whose father has been implicated in
the Golden Chain of early al-Qaeda financing, and you're telling me
that, regardless of the final outcome of perfectly reasonable
investigations regarding the prior and on-going nature of this
business relationship, such investigations should not be
comprehensively undertaken by the relevant authorities? That Ziyad
Abjuldawad has recently been caught up in his own corruption scandal-
and is pictured here, http://www.ranchandcoast.com/June2004/gatherings.html,
with Congressman Duke Cunningham (alongside Masood and Massih
Tayebi), makes proper investigation even more reasonable. You check
also check Ziyad Abduljawad's campaign contributions here:
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/ziyad-abduljawad...,
(note the "Friends of Duke Cunningham" contribution of $2000),
alongside Massih Tayebi's contributions here:
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/massih-tayebi.as....
Tayebi also donated $2000 to "Friends of Duke Cunningham".
Nothing to hide? No problem.
> Everyone knows what Osama has done, because he released video tapes
> boasting about it before going to hide in a cave in the Afghan
> mountains.
> Can we have a few facts, not a specious rant about a bunch of
> unrelated stuff, thanks?
You seriously need to reconsider your definition of 'specious',
'rant'
and 'unrelated'.
> > No, only stupid and inconsequential foot-soldiers or patsy idiots like
> > David Hicks ever get arrested. Only Brazilian students with tourist
> > visas to the UK get shot dead in the London metro. In other words, it
> > is the common (wo)man who is both the target and victim on all sides
> > of the spectrum in this war churning industry, during this fictitious
> > "war on terror," who get either arrested, maimed or killed.
> So, you're suggesting that JC de Menezes was shot because Tayebi is in
> bed with Abduljawad are you? Nice try.
> Paul
Poor misdirection, Paul. This will ultimately get you nowhere.
PaulHammond
> On Jan 15, 11:03 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > And, dropping intelligent-seeming buzzwords is not helping you to look
> > like an interlectual.
>
> I finally figured out what your problem is and what the general
> explanation for your backing of the rightwing consensus hardline
> position is all about: you have a serious inferiority complex and have
> no sense of social identity beyond a given groupthink.
Now you really ARE projecting, Nima!
Oh, and btw, I'm not right wing just becuase you SAY that I am.
Dubya is YOUR friend, not mine.
Sock-Puppet'ullah
> Oh, and btw, I'm not right wing just becuase you SAY that I am.
You are a rightwing loon because it is axiomatically evident.
W
PaulHammond
Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
You're a loon. And that IS axiomatically evident.
As to evidence, that's not something you're familiar with.
Sock-Puppet'ullah
> Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
> > On Jan 22, 11:31 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Oh, and btw, I'm not right wing just becuase you SAY that I am.
>
> > You are a rightwing loon because it is axiomatically evident.
>
> > W
>
> You're a loon.
Loon or not does not remotely change the fact that YOU ARE A HACK on
the payroll. And this is most evidently axiomatic as 1 + 1 =2!
"First, I do believe, based on Hammond's refusal to say why he is
interested in the Baha'i Faith and his frequent defense of the AO,
that he is probably working for them."
-- Eric Stetson, September 2003
W
PaulHammond
Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
> On Jan 22, 11:37�am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> > Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
> > > On Jan 22, 11:31 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > > Oh, and btw, I'm not right wing just becuase you SAY that I am.
> >
> > > You are a rightwing loon because it is axiomatically evident.
> >
> > > W
> >
> > You're a loon. �
>
> Loon or not does not remotely change the fact that YOU ARE A HACK on
> the payroll. And this is most evidently axiomatic as 1 + 1 =2!
>
>
You've been saying this for 8u years.
I'm sure you'll get around to proving it someday.... maybe when hell
freezes over?
Oh, yeah, and Bill was on the payroll, too, wasn't he. And Pat and
Dermod. And Eric.
And everyone who was ever mean to you. And all the people who called
you names at school.
Death to Haifan Bahaism
> Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
> > On Jan 22, 11:37 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> > > Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
> > > > On Jan 22, 11:31 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > Oh, and btw, I'm not right wing just becuase you SAY that I am.
>
> > > > You are a rightwing loon because it is axiomatically evident.
>
> > > > W
>
> > > You're a loon.
>
> > Loon or not does not remotely change the fact that YOU ARE A HACK on
> > the payroll. And this is most evidently axiomatic as 1 + 1 =2!
>
> You've been saying this for 8u years.
Exactly for the 8 years your Neo-Con masters let you have a free ride.
Now that Obama is president a lot of things are going to change,
beginning with the end of the free ride. So start saying your
prayers...
> I'm sure you'll get around to proving it someday....
The fact that you are a HACK on the PAYROLL was proven a long time
ago, palu. The days of action are now here.
W
All Bad
"Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c32906cf-59f4-4c3b...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 22, 11:31 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> Oh, and btw, I'm not right wing just becuase you SAY that I am.
W: You are a rightwing loon because it is axiomatically evident.
AB: Obviously you do not know what is an axiom. Another identity crisis?
- All Bad
All Bad
AB: Goo goo ga joob, and the troooooth is out there, waaaay out there.
- All Bad
"Sock-Puppet'ullah" <wahid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:07c89136-5b06-443b...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
All Bad
"Death to Haifan Bahaism" <deatht...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b91cf504-7c65-4c23...@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 22, 11:50 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>> Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
>> > On Jan 22, 11:37 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>> > > Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
>> > > > On Jan 22, 11:31 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > Oh, and btw, I'm not right wing just becuase you SAY that I am.
>>
>> > > > You are a rightwing loon because it is axiomatically evident.
>>
>> > > > W
>>
>> > > You're a loon.
>>
>> > Loon or not does not remotely change the fact that YOU ARE A HACK on
>> > the payroll. And this is most evidently axiomatic as 1 + 1 =2!
>>
>> You've been saying this for 8u years.
>
> Exactly for the 8 years your Neo-Con masters let you have a free ride.
> Now that Obama is president a lot of things are going to change,
> beginning with the end of the free ride. So start saying your
> prayers...
>
The Prez is a great guy and all, but he is the Prez of the USA, not the
British Commonwealth, not the UK or Oz, and not TRB. BHO is the new
President of the US of A and you are still the same whacked out conspiricist
you were last week.
Take your meds, get off of TRB, let the grown ups talk and start your own NG
on moon howling or Bayani, or Ayahuasca, I don't care, or stick around and
provide comic relief, your choice. Nothing changes until you change
something.
- All Bad
Death to Haifan Bahaism
wrote:
> The Prez is a great guy and all, but he is the Prez of the USA, not the
> British Commonwealth, not the UK or Oz, and not TRB. BHO is the new
> President of the US of A...
And you are the same hack and war criminal that you were two days ago:
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/2061c56b7c13202e#
> Take your meds,
What meds would that be? Who prescribed them and when?? Specifics!
> Nothing changes until you change
> something.
The change is here KKKholi: you people are all going to be held
accountable, to various degrees, for your complicity and participation
in the Bush-Regime. Count on it!
W
PaulHammond
Death to Haifan Bahaism wrote:
> On Jan 22, 11:50 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> > Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
> > > On Jan 22, 11:37 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> > > > Sock-Puppet'ullah wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 22, 11:31 am, PaulHammond <pahamm...@onetel.net.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Oh, and btw, I'm not right wing just becuase you SAY that I am.
> >
> > > > > You are a rightwing loon because it is axiomatically evident.
> >
> > > > > W
> >
> > > > You're a loon.
> >
> > > Loon or not does not remotely change the fact that YOU ARE A HACK on
> > > the payroll. And this is most evidently axiomatic as 1 + 1 =2!
> >
> > You've been saying this for 8u years.
>
> Exactly for the 8 years your Neo-Con masters let you have a free ride.
Interesting. Now I've got Neo-Con masters, too, according to the
great and mighty Dubya Hazini.
> Now that Obama is president a lot of things are going to change,
> beginning with the end of the free ride. So start saying your
> prayers...
>
So, are you still running your agreement with the far-right line that
Obama is really a muslim, even though he's clearly a Christian like
the majority of Americans.
>
> > I'm sure you'll get around to proving it someday....
>
> The fact that you are a HACK on the PAYROLL was proven a long time
> ago, palu.
Nima, saying "I said so before" a thousand times does not constitute
proof.
If you've GOT proof, put it up. Tell me, who pays me, and how much?
And how do you know?
>The days of action are now here.
>
Wasn't there some empty threat of court action hanging around on the
previous post from you?
Oh well, I guess words speak louder than actions, that's why you
dropped it this time around...
PaulHammond
Death to Haifan Bahaism wrote:
> The change is here KKKholi: you people are all going to be held
> accountable, to various degrees, for your complicity and participation
> in the Bush-Regime. Count on it!
>
> W
So, now you reckon Obama's gonna put Bush on trial as a war criminal?
What a loon! And what does this have to do with the Baha'i group?
Sock-Puppet'ullah
Sock-Puppet'ullah
> Death to Haifan Bahaism wrote:
>
> > The change is here KKKholi: you people are all going to be held
> > accountable, to various degrees, for your complicity and participation
> > in the Bush-Regime. Count on it!
>
> > W
>
> So, now you reckon Obama's gonna put Bush on trial as a war criminal?
Maybe not Shrub or the immediate cabal of war-criminals. But
underlings and foundations aligned to that shit, indeed, heads are
going to roll, and Biden didn't rule it out either.
> What a loon! And what does this have to do with the Baha'i group?
Everything!!! You CRIMINALS were neck deep in all of that.
PaulHammond
So, it's not, say, something you were just saying because the
inauguration was shown last week?
Sock-Puppet'ullah
> So, it's not, say, something you were just saying because the
> inauguration was shown last week?- Hide quoted text -
???
NUR
> Pat Kohli, maybe you should approach Baha'i Masood Tayebi's business
> interest, Kratos Defense and Security Solutions (http://
> www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Wireless_Facilities) about working
> on some guidance systems for their UAV's, since this area is one of
> your specialities? By the sounds of this report, they appear to be
> going 'great guns'.
>
> http://ir.wfinet.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?releaseid=263874
> Wireless Facilities, Inc. Announces New Company Name: Kratos Defense &
> Security Solutions, Inc.
>
> http://newsblaze.com/story/2008122409152300002.pz/topstory.html
>
> Published: December 24,2008
>
> Kratos Defense & Security Solutions Completes Merger With Digital
> Fusion, Inc.
>
> Merger Significantly Enhances Kratos' C4ISR Capabilities and Provides
>
> Solutions, Inc. announced today that it has completed its merger with
> Digital Fusion, Inc. (DFI). DFI, headquartered in Huntsville, AL.,
> significantly enhances Kratos' C4ISR and technical engineering
> capabilities, provides Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) products and
> technology, and adds significant engineering, modeling & simulation
> capabilities.
>
> The merger of DFI into Kratos furthers Kratos' strategy and position
> as a premier federal government contractor in the areas of legacy
> weapon system life cycle extension, sustainment & equipment reset,
> C4ISR, weapons and targets range operations & services, and
> information technology, assurance, & security. The transaction
> increases Kratos' employee count to approximately 2,300, the majority
> of whom hold security clearances, and is expected to be immediately
> accretive to Kratos' valuation metrics.
>
> Eric DeMarco, Kratos' President and Chief Executive Officer, said "The
> merger with DFI is another important step forward in executing our
> strategy of building a premier national, homeland and public security
> services and solutions provider. DFI has virtually all of the key
> characteristics Kratos looks for in a merger, including a solid
> management team led by Mike Wicks, a close strategic fit with Kratos'
> core business focus areas, a key geographic location in Huntsville,
> AL., and being immediately accretive financially."
>
> Mike Wicks, Chief Operating Officer of Digital Fusion, commented, "We
> are extremely pleased to be joining the Kratos family. The expanded
> resources, capabilities, and past performance of Kratos will enable
> DFI to pursue larger and broader contract opportunities which we
> believe will increase our ability to grow organically and provide
> additional opportunities for our most valuable asset, DFI's employees.
> In addition, DFI's unique technical qualifications, particularly in
> the areas of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and Modeling & Simulation, will
> nicely complement Kratos' core competencies. We are very excited at
> what the future holds, and look forward to being a part of the
> dominant mid-tier federal contractor."
>
> The combination of Kratos and DFI provides Kratos with new customers
> and an expanded contract vehicle portfolio, in addition to broadening
> the range of service offerings to the existing Kratos customer base.
> Principal customers of DFI include the Army Aviation and Missile
> Research, Development and Engineering Center (AMRDEC), Army Space and
> Missile Defense Command/Army Forces Strategic Command ARSTRAT), NASA
> Marshall Space Flight Center, and certain classified customers.
>
> Pursuant to the acquisition, all outstanding shares of DFI common
> stock have been converted into Kratos stock at an exchange rate of
> 1.7933 shares of Kratos common stock for each outstanding share of DFI
> common stock. The transaction has been structured to be tax-free to
> shareholders of both Kratos and DFI for U.S. federal income tax
> purposes.
>
> DeMarco concluded, "Since the end of 2007, we have now brought
> together four outstanding small businesses to create what Kratos is
> today. As we have stated previously, we have just recently reorganized
> our company to take advantage of our increased customer base, number
> of contract vehicles, and overall resources. We are in the process of
> streamlining the business, reducing cost and exiting certain non-core
> or underperforming businesses, which once completed will position
> Kratos to be an approximately $400 million business in 2009, with
> target EBITDA margins consistent with those of our peers."
>
> About Kratos Defense & Security Solutions
>
> Kratos Defense & Security Solutions, Inc. provides mission critical
> engineering, IT services and war fighter solutions for the U.S.
> federal government and for state and local agencies. Principal
> services include C4ISR, weapon systems lifecycle support, military
> weapon range and technical services, network engineering services,
> advanced IT services, security and surveillance systems, and critical
> infrastructure design and integration. The Company is headquartered in
> San Diego, California, with resources throughout the U.S. and at key
> strategic military locations. News and information are available at
> www.KratosDefense.com.
>
> The Kratos Defense & Security Solutions, Inc. logo is available at
> http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/prs/?pkgid=3519
>
> Notice Regarding Forward-Looking Statements
>
> This news release and filing contains certain forward-looking
> statements that involve risks and uncertainties, including, without
> limitation, expressed or implied statements concerning the anticipated
> benefits of the proposed transaction, Kratos' expectations regarding
> future financial performance, performance of key contracts and market
> developments. Such statements are only predictions, and the Company's
> actual results may differ materially. Factors that may cause the
> Company's results to differ include, but are not limited to: risks
> that the anticipated benefits will not be realized; risks that the DFI
> integration will prove more costly, take more time, or be more
> distracting than currently anticipated; risks of adverse regulatory
> action or litigation; risks associated with debt leverage; risks that
> changes or cutbacks in spending by the U.S. Department of Defense may
> occur, which could cause delays or cancellations of key government
> contracts; risks that changes may occur in Federal government (or
> other applicable) procurement laws, regulations, policies and budgets;
> risks relating to contract performance; changes in the competitive
> environment (including as a result of bid protests); and failure to
> successfully consummate acquisitions or integrate acquired operations
> and competition in the marketplace which could reduce revenues and
> profit margins. The Company undertakes no obligation to update any
> forward-looking statements. These and other risk factors are more
> fully discussed in the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-K for the
> period ended December 31, 2007, Form 10-Q for the period ended
> September 28, 2008, and in other filings made with the Securities and
> Exchange Commission.
>
> CONTACT: Kratos Defense & Security Solutions, Inc.
> Press Contact:
> Rob Babbush
> 858-812-7309 Direct
> Investor Information:
> 877-934-4687
> inve...@kratosdefense.com
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