#WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA’S IMPEACHMENT

Kurt Nicklas

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WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA’S IMPEACHMENT

WAYNE ALLYN ROOT

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/why-the-irs-scandal-should-lead-to-obamas-impeachment/

Do you remember Nixon’s Articles of Impeachment? Right smack dab in
the middle of President Richard Nixon’s list of crimes was using the
IRS to punish his critics and political opponents. Don’t look now but
we’ve got another Nixon in the White House.

The IRS is embroiled in a huge political scandal. But you don’t have
the full story. Last week they admitted to targeting and intimidating
conservative and Tea Party groups. But the scandal gets bigger by the
hour.

The latest development is that top IRS officials and lawyers were in
fact aware of this scandal since 2011, the very year I was targeted by
the IRS.

It gets worse. It turns out the IRS was targeting Pro-Israel Jewish
groups. It’s now gone from political targeting to racism and anti-
semitism.

But here’s the big mystery- why would the IRS publicly admit this? The
answer is simple- The IRS thought a quick apology, throwing a few “low
level employees” under the bus, could nip it in the butt and make it
all go away before the evidence leads directly to the president. They
were wrong. This will grow into one of the biggest scandals in U.S.
political history- if the media does their job. This should lead to
Obama’s impeachment- if the media does their job.

How do I know this scandal is much bigger than what has been disclosed
so far?

Because I’ve been living it. As an outspoken critic of Obama, I’ve
been under IRS attack since January of 2011. I am living proof of how
bad it is, when it started, and that it was directed at individuals,
not just conservative groups.

It did not involve only “low level IRS employees.” It did not happen
in only one year (2012). It does not involve only faceless groups. It
involves real people with real faces and families- like me. It does
not involve one office in Cincinnati. It was a widespread attack (in
my case emanating from the Las Vegas IRS office). It goes to the top
of the IRS, it started early in Obama’s Presidency, and you can bet
your last dollar (which is all we have left under this president) that
it was all conducted upon direct orders of President Obama or his top
aides.

Here is my personal story.

I was there at the beginning. I am only a small businessman. But I am
an outspoken and loud critic of Obama. My views are read by millions
at web sites like TheBlaze.com. I’ve made over 5000 media appearances
in the past 5 years- including many dozens of appearances on Fox News.
My book, “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide” reports on Obama’s
purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
with massive spending, entitlements and debt. And add an exclamation
point to the story- I’m President Obama’s Columbia University
classmate who can prove that this is a detailed plan we all learned at
Columbia. Now you know why Obama wanted to silence, distract and
intimidate me. I may have the very first IRS victim who started the
ball rolling.

The result of my outspoken criticism of Obama? An unprecedented IRS
attack starting in January of 2011. Many businesses in this terrible
economy are behind on taxes. Not me. I’ve never owed a dime to the
IRS. Never been late with a tax payment. In 30 years of doing
business, I’ve had a perfect, spotless, flawless record. So why would
the IRS suddenly decide to attack me (a small businessman, without a
fortune, with a perfect record) with abandon? The attack started in
January of 2011. It was reported here at TheBlaze.

This IRS attack so over-zealous and out of bounds, I was forced to
hire one of the nation’s top tax attorneys. He immediately took the
case to tax court, where we won a full 100% victory. The court ruled I
didn’t owe a dime in taxes. Then the IRS announced a new tax audit
against me- five days later.

My tax attorney has never in his entire career heard of such a thing.
He assumed it was not possible, until he saw it happen to me. The many
legal and accounting experts I’ve consulted have all agreed this could
only happen if I was on the “Obama Enemies List.”

The attack was chilling and intimidating. It affected every aspect of
my life. It almost ruined me. It was meant to distract me, bleed me
dry, and teach me a lesson- if you dare to criticize Obama, get ready
to lose everything.

If the media wasn’t so blindly loyal to Obama, they’d know what I
already know. Obama is a modern day Nixon.

It wasn’t just myself and a few conservative, Tea Party, and Jewish
groups targeted. That alone should be enough to impeach Obama. But if
you believe that story, I’ve got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
I’ve done the research. This happened all across America to outspoken
opponents of Obama and to large GOP donors. Obama was trying to ruin
people’s lives. People just like me.

This scandal is widespread. It is deep within the IRS. And I guarantee
you it started with direct orders from the Obama White House. Or do
you believe IRS agents and their bosses take it upon themselves to
target the President’s opponents? How absurd.

This is all a pattern. See what Obama and Hillary (his Secretary of
State) have done to the whistleblowers and members of the CIA and
military who know what truly happened in Benghazi. See General
Petraeus and his affair. Given his continued silence, I can only
imagine what other threats Obama is holding over his head.

Or take the rating agencies who downgraded the credit of America. Both
were indicted by the federal government soon after daring to confirm
America’s economic decline under Obama.

“Enough is Enough.” President Nixon was threatened with impeachment
and forced out of office for covering up a third rate burglary.
President Clinton faced impeachment for a third rate sexual affair.
Obama has committed first rate crimes. Benghazi is Watergate with 4
dead American heroes. And this brazen IRS attack makes Nixon look like
a nice guy. Even Nixon wouldn’t dare target Jewish Pro Israel groups.
The media would have burned him at the stake. Let’s see how they treat
Obama.

It’s time our representatives in Congress find the courage to face up
to Obama’s culture of lies, cover-ups and intimidation. They must take
the action that Obama deserves for the Benghazi cover-up and these
horrific unconstitutional IRS attacks meant to silence his critics –
IMPEACHMENT.

Zepp

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May 13, 2013, 5:48:17 PM5/13/13

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All this right wing moron has to do is show that Obama had anything to do
with it.

I bet it's two days before you mention the massive scandal that broke
today. It'll take that long for Rush and Faux News to tell you what your
opinion on it shall be.

What DID a Frothy Mixture of Shit do to be associated with Santorum ?

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May 13, 2013, 6:01:54 PM5/13/13

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On 5/13/2013 4:29 PM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>
> WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMAï¿½S IMPEACHMENT
>
>

bahahahaaaaawwwwwwww

Obama has nothing to do with IRS. It is outside of the executive office.

try again.

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Kurt Nicklas

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On May 13, 6:01 pm, What DID a Frothy Mixture of Shit do to be

associated with Santorum ? <als...@kas.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/2013 4:29 PM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>
>
>

> > WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA S IMPEACHMENT

>
> bahahahaaaaawwwwwwww
>
> Obama has nothing to do with IRS. It is outside of the executive office.

And yet, if you had read the article (I know that's difficult for an
anonymous coward like you, of course) you would know that misuse of
the IRS for just such political purposes was part of the articles of
impeachment drawn up for Richard Nixon. The reference was in Article
2, actually.

But then you're a knuckle-dragging leftwing moron unable to think of
himself so you react out of instinct.

Typical.

What DID a Frothy Mixture of Shit do to be associated with Santorum ?

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May 13, 2013, 6:23:37 PM5/13/13

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On 5/13/2013 5:05 PM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:

>>> WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA S IMPEACHMENT
>>
>> bahahahaaaaawwwwwwww
>>
>> Obama has nothing to do with IRS. It is outside of the executive office.
>
> And yet, if you had read the article (I know that's difficult for an
> anonymous coward like you, of course) you would know that misuse of
> the IRS

Prove he had any knowledge.

You can't. And neither can Pecker Head except for
writing a blog and exciting his clueless minions to
buy more of his bullshit crap for $$ . You gullible morons
just live in fear .. and the FUD masters just rip
you off at every chance they get.

so the entire discussion is moot.

boo

Poor Repressed, Deprived, Victimized RepublicLoons

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May 13, 2013, 6:26:16 PM5/13/13

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On 5/13/2013 4:29 PM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>

>

> How do I know this scandal is much bigger than what has been disclosed
> so far?
>

> Because Iï¿½ve been living it.
>

bwwwababababaahahaaawwwwww - a poor victim .

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Kurt Nicklas

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On May 13, 6:23 pm, What DID a Frothy Mixture of Shit do to be

associated with Santorum ? <als...@kas.com> wrote:

> On 5/13/2013 5:05 PM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>
> >>> WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA S IMPEACHMENT
>
> >> bahahahaaaaawwwwwwww
>
> >> Obama has nothing to do with IRS. It is outside of the executive office.
>
> > And yet, if you had read the article (I know that's difficult for an
> > anonymous coward like you, of course) you would know that misuse of
> > the IRS
>
> Prove he had any knowledge.

Of course, the fact that you deleted the following in my previous post
shows you're worried.

And yet, if you had read the article (I know that's difficult for an
anonymous coward like you, of course) you would know that misuse of

What DID a Frothy Mixture of Shit do to be associated with Santorum ?

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On 5/13/2013 5:29 PM, Kurt Nicklas wrote

>>> the IRS
>>
>> Prove he had any knowledge.
>

> Typical.
>

blah blah blah .

prove it.

Zepp

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The head of the IRS was a Bush appointee, Knickers. Did you know that?

And the mainstream GOP absolutely hate the teabagger whacks.

raven1

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On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>My book, “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide” reports on Obama’s
>purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
>with massive spending, entitlements and debt.

Wow. Looks like the author forgot his tin foil hat.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Two layers will be necessary. One, to prevent rays coming in, and
another to prevent them from coming out.

Jeanne Douglas

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In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,

Yeah. We have corporations making the largest profits in the history of
mankind. We have the stock exchange setting new record highs every day.

If Obama is trying to destroy capitalism in the US, he's really doing a
lousy job of it.

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JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

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On 5/14/2013 8:08 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
> @newsfe27.iad:
>
>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>

>>>>> My book, ï¿½The Ultimate Obama Survival Guideï¿½ reports on Obamaï¿½s

>>>>> purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
>>>>> with massive spending, entitlements and debt.
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Looks like the author forgot his tin foil hat.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah. We have corporations making the largest profits in the history of
>>> mankind. We have the stock exchange setting new record highs every day.
>>>
>>> If Obama is trying to destroy capitalism in the US, he's really doing a
>>> lousy job of it.
>>>
>> True. Plus he's bringing the deficit down faster than anyone since the
>> end of WWII.
>>
>
> Acid flashbacks? What friggin' news are you watching?
>

The fact-based kind. You know, the kind with charts and graphs and math
and such.

Maybe you don't.

Tom McDonald

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On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
> @newsfe27.iad:
>
>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>

>>>>> My book, ï¿½The Ultimate Obama Survival Guideï¿½ reports on Obamaï¿½s

>>>>> purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
>>>>> with massive spending, entitlements and debt.
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Looks like the author forgot his tin foil hat.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah. We have corporations making the largest profits in the history of
>>> mankind. We have the stock exchange setting new record highs every day.
>>>
>>> If Obama is trying to destroy capitalism in the US, he's really doing a
>>> lousy job of it.
>>>
>> True. Plus he's bringing the deficit down faster than anyone since the
>> end of WWII.
>
> Show us precisely where that is occring.
> http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=31
> &startYear=2009&endMonth=05&endDay=20&endYear=2013
>
> From the Feds mouth to God's ears, yer a lieing sack of shit.
>
> Date
>
> Debt Held by the Public
>
> Intragovernmental Holdings
>
> Total Public Debt Outstanding

Is there something wrong with you? Do you perhaps not read English?

Where did I say anything about debt?

Hint (for the dim): I didn't.

Read again and see if you can divine what I did write. It's right up
above, just where I put it.

If you need help, call upstairs and have your mother help you.

<snip useless cut'n'paste>

Gray Guest

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Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:wxBkt.6957$Km3.2226
@newsfe31.iad:

> On 5/14/2013 8:08 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
>> @newsfe27.iad:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>

>>>>>> My book, �The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide� reports on Obama�s

>>>>>> purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
>>>>>> with massive spending, entitlements and debt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. Looks like the author forgot his tin foil hat.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. We have corporations making the largest profits in the history of
>>>> mankind. We have the stock exchange setting new record highs every day.
>>>>
>>>> If Obama is trying to destroy capitalism in the US, he's really doing a
>>>> lousy job of it.
>>>>
>>> True. Plus he's bringing the deficit down faster than anyone since the
>>> end of WWII.
>>>
>>
>> Acid flashbacks? What friggin' news are you watching?
>>
> The fact-based kind. You know, the kind with charts and graphs and math
> and such.

Apparently not.

For a fact kinda guy you seem to have avoided my facts as supplied by the
feds. Why don't yopu look at this and show us WHERE he "reduced the deficit",
simpering chimp.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=31
&startYear=2009&endMonth=05&endDay=20&endYear=2013

Date

Debt Held by the Public

Intragovernmental Holdings

Total Public Debt Outstanding

RD Sandman

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Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
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It was under his watch where it went up except for 2008.

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Zepp

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May 14, 2013, 9:39:58 PM5/14/13

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Mostly at the expense of poor and working people, but the right wingers
don't give a shit about that.

MattB .

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Obama could have Vetoed that bill.

Scout

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"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
> @newsfe27.iad:
>
>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My book, "The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide" reports on Obama's
>>>>> purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
>>>>> with massive spending, entitlements and debt.
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Looks like the author forgot his tin foil hat.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah. We have corporations making the largest profits in the history
> of
>>> mankind. We have the stock exchange setting new record highs every
> day.
>>>
>>> If Obama is trying to destroy capitalism in the US, he's really doing
> a
>>> lousy job of it.
>>>
>> True. Plus he's bringing the deficit down faster than anyone since the
>> end of WWII.
>>
>
> It was under his watch where it went up except for 2008.

And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of additional
spending into that budget while he was President.

Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue shouldn't we
calculate that entire amount added under Obama as deficit spending?

STEADY EDDY

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On May 13, 2:29 pm, Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA’S IMPEACHMENT

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Gray Guest

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May 14, 2013, 11:56:00 PM5/14/13

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Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3BBkt.7033$Km3.2796
@newsfe31.iad:

> On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
>> @newsfe27.iad:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>

>>>>>> My book, �The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide� reports on Obama�s

Well the how is the debt increasing if the deficit os going down.

Lemme be blunt. You guys lie. All the time. About everything. You can't
help it. You're sick. Brains burnt out. You should be put down. For the
good of the children, of course.

Zepp

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May 15, 2013, 1:05:07 AM5/15/13

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All these years you've been hanging around these groups, and you don't
know what the difference between deficit and debt is?

Steve

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May 15, 2013, 6:35:01 AM5/15/13

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 05:05:07 +0000 (UTC), Zepp <de...@gone.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 May 2013 03:56:00 +0000, Gray Guest wrote:
>
>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3BBkt.7033$Km3.2796
>> @newsfe31.iad:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
>>>> @newsfe27.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> My book, ?The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide? reports on Obama?s

Wonder if Zepp ever figured out what a 401k is?

"And why are dividends on 401Ks considered capital
gains? (They are,when it comes time to cash the 401K
in, but Steve wouldn't know that)."
David (Zepp) Jamieson Tue, 29 Jul 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/25d56714cbea3db9?hl=en

Canyon Note: When you cash in a 401K, it's taxed as ordinary income
not as capital gains.

Steve

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May 15, 2013, 6:35:01 AM5/15/13

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Zepp is poor, but he's not working.. living on welfare and food
stamps...

raven1

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May 15, 2013, 8:00:14 AM5/15/13

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Worst. Socialist. Ever. ;-)

raven1

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May 15, 2013, 8:01:56 AM5/15/13

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Good grief! Do you not understand the difference between the deficit
and the national debt?

raven1

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May 15, 2013, 8:03:01 AM5/15/13

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 01:08:01 +0000 (UTC), Gray Guest
<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:

>raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in
>news:tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>><kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>My book, �The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide� reports on Obama�s
>>>purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
>>>with massive spending, entitlements and debt.
>>
>> Wow. Looks like the author forgot his tin foil hat.
>
>Wow looks like the loon author forgot to actually argue any facts.

Says the guy who doesn't know the difference between the deficit and
the national debt.

Tom McDonald

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May 15, 2013, 8:51:37 AM5/15/13

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On 5/14/2013 10:56 PM, Gray Guest wrote:> Tom McDonald

<kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3BBkt.7033$Km3.2796
> @newsfe31.iad:
>
>> On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
>>> @newsfe27.iad:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> My book, ï¿½The Ultimate Obama Survival Guideï¿½ reports on Obamaï¿½s

Another question for you to shout upstairs to your mom. It's pretty
clear to everyone else.

> Lemme be blunt. You guys lie. All the time. About everything. You can't
> help it. You're sick. Brains burnt out. You should be put down. For the
> good of the children, of course.
>

And yet, I didn't lie. You fucked up. Deal with it, kid.

RD Sandman

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;)

deep

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:

>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of additional
>> spending into that budget while he was President.
>>
>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue
>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as deficit
>> spending?
>
>
>;)

Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the House
of Representatives.

Since when did The Executive write the budget?

Free Lunch

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May 15, 2013, 6:52:30 PM5/15/13

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The budget is just a plan. It has never had any meaning for congress,
even if they pass it. The spending and tax bills are supposed to try to
match the budget that might have been passed, but if they don't, no
problem, only the spending and tax bills become law.

Scout

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May 15, 2013, 7:29:08 PM5/15/13

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"deep" wrote in message news:lh38p85kuemf4734n...@4ax.com...

When he fucking signs the bill into law.

Oh, and Dudu.....the Senate is also involved in the budget. It simply STARTS
in the House, but that isn't where it ends.

We will add how bills become law to those things of which Dudu is ignorant.

deep

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May 15, 2013, 7:43:48 PM5/15/13

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>
>"deep" wrote in message news:lh38p85kuemf4734n...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of additional
>>>> spending into that budget while he was President.
>>>>
>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue
>>>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as deficit
>>>> spending?
>>>
>>>
>>>;)
>>
>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the House
>> of Representatives.
>>
>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>
>When he fucking signs the bill into law.

Kurt Nicklas

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May 15, 2013, 8:20:17 PM5/15/13

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On May 13, 5:29 pm, Kurt Nicklas <kurtnick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> WHY THE IRS SCANDAL SHOULD LEAD TO OBAMA’S IMPEACHMENT
>

> WAYNE ALLYN ROOT
>
> http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/why-the-irs-scandal-should-lead...
>
> Do you remember Nixon’s Articles of Impeachment? Right smack dab in
> the middle of President Richard Nixon’s list of crimes was using the
> IRS to punish his critics and political opponents. Don’t look now but
> we’ve got another Nixon in the White House.
>
> The IRS is embroiled in a huge political scandal. But you don’t have
> the full story. Last week they admitted to targeting and intimidating
> conservative and Tea Party groups. But the scandal gets bigger by the
> hour.
>
> The latest development is that top IRS officials and lawyers were in
> fact aware of this scandal since 2011, the very year I was targeted by
> the IRS.
>
> It gets worse. It turns out the IRS was targeting Pro-Israel Jewish
> groups. It’s now gone from political targeting to racism and anti-
> semitism.
>
> But here’s the big mystery- why would the IRS publicly admit this? The
> answer is simple- The IRS thought a quick apology, throwing a few “low
> level employees” under the bus, could nip it in the butt and make it
> all go away before the evidence leads directly to the president. They
> were wrong. This will grow into one of the biggest scandals in U.S.
> political history- if the media does their job. This should lead to
> Obama’s impeachment- if the media does their job.
>
> How do I know this scandal is much bigger than what has been disclosed
> so far?
>
> Because I’ve been living it. As an outspoken critic of Obama, I’ve
> been under IRS attack since January of 2011. I am living proof of how
> bad it is, when it started, and that it was directed at individuals,
> not just conservative groups.
>
> It did not involve only “low level IRS employees.” It did not happen
> in only one year (2012). It does not involve only faceless groups. It
> involves real people with real faces and families- like me. It does
> not involve one office in Cincinnati. It was a widespread attack (in
> my case emanating from the Las Vegas IRS office). It goes to the top
> of the IRS, it started early in Obama’s Presidency, and you can bet
> your last dollar (which is all we have left under this president) that
> it was all conducted upon direct orders of President Obama or his top
> aides.
>
> Here is my personal story.
>
> I was there at the beginning. I am only a small businessman. But I am
> an outspoken and loud critic of Obama. My views are read by millions
> at web sites like TheBlaze.com. I’ve made over 5000 media appearances
> in the past 5 years- including many dozens of appearances on Fox News.

> My book, “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide” reports on Obama’s
> purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system

> with massive spending, entitlements and debt. And add an exclamation
> point to the story- I’m President Obama’s Columbia University
> classmate who can prove that this is a detailed plan we all learned at
> Columbia. Now you know why Obama wanted to silence, distract and
> intimidate me. I may have the very first IRS victim who started the
> ball rolling.
>
> The result of my outspoken criticism of Obama? An unprecedented IRS
> attack starting in January of 2011. Many businesses in this terrible
> economy are behind on taxes. Not me. I’ve never owed a dime to the
> IRS. Never been late with a tax payment. In 30 years of doing
> business, I’ve had a perfect, spotless, flawless record. So why would
> the IRS suddenly decide to attack me (a small businessman, without a
> fortune, with a perfect record) with abandon? The attack started in
> January of 2011. It was reported here at TheBlaze.
>
> This IRS attack so over-zealous and out of bounds, I was forced to
> hire one of the nation’s top tax attorneys. He immediately took the
> case to tax court, where we won a full 100% victory. The court ruled I
> didn’t owe a dime in taxes. Then the IRS announced a new tax audit
> against me- five days later.
>
> My tax attorney has never in his entire career heard of such a thing.
> He assumed it was not possible, until he saw it happen to me. The many
> legal and accounting experts I’ve consulted have all agreed this could
> only happen if I was on the “Obama Enemies List.”
>
> The attack was chilling and intimidating. It affected every aspect of
> my life. It almost ruined me. It was meant to distract me, bleed me
> dry, and teach me a lesson- if you dare to criticize Obama, get ready
> to lose everything.
>
> If the media wasn’t so blindly loyal to Obama, they’d know what I
> already know. Obama is a modern day Nixon.
>
> It wasn’t just myself and a few conservative, Tea Party, and Jewish
> groups targeted. That alone should be enough to impeach Obama. But if
> you believe that story, I’ve got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
> I’ve done the research. This happened all across America to outspoken
> opponents of Obama and to large GOP donors. Obama was trying to ruin
> people’s lives. People just like me.
>
> This scandal is widespread. It is deep within the IRS. And I guarantee
> you it started with direct orders from the Obama White House. Or do
> you believe IRS agents and their bosses take it upon themselves to
> target the President’s opponents? How absurd.
>
> This is all a pattern. See what Obama and Hillary (his Secretary of
> State) have done to the whistleblowers and members of the CIA and
> military who know what truly happened in Benghazi. See General
> Petraeus and his affair. Given his continued silence, I can only
> imagine what other threats Obama is holding over his head.
>
> Or take the rating agencies who downgraded the credit of America. Both
> were indicted by the federal government soon after daring to confirm
> America’s economic decline under Obama.
>
> “Enough is Enough.” President Nixon was threatened with impeachment
> and forced out of office for covering up a third rate burglary.
> President Clinton faced impeachment for a third rate sexual affair.
> Obama has committed first rate crimes. Benghazi is Watergate with 4
> dead American heroes. And this brazen IRS attack makes Nixon look like
> a nice guy. Even Nixon wouldn’t dare target Jewish Pro Israel groups.
> The media would have burned him at the stake. Let’s see how they treat
> Obama.
>
> It’s time our representatives in Congress find the courage to face up
> to Obama’s culture of lies, cover-ups and intimidation. They must take
> the action that Obama deserves for the Benghazi cover-up and these
> horrific unconstitutional IRS attacks meant to silence his critics –
> IMPEACHMENT.

Obozo just wants this all to disappear so he can get back to shooting
some hoops.

It's what he REALLY wants to do anyway.

Gray Guest

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May 15, 2013, 8:17:26 PM5/15/13

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raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in
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The debt is the sum of annual deficits.

Well we can we won this one, cuz the obfuscators are at it again.

Zepp

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May 15, 2013, 8:46:31 PM5/15/13

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Go to the federal budget webpage and look over the deficits by year.

I'm sure it will come to you, chuckles.

Assuming, of course, you can do basic arithmetic. Can you?

Tom McDonald

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May 15, 2013, 9:06:21 PM5/15/13

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On 5/15/2013 7:15 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:xxLkt.8063$0y4.5880
> @newsfe08.iad:
>
>> On 5/14/2013 10:56 PM, Gray Guest wrote:> Tom McDonald
>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3BBkt.7033$Km3.2796
>>> @newsfe31.iad:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
>>>>> @newsfe27.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> My book, ï¿½The Ultimate Obama Survival Guideï¿½ reports on Obamaï¿½s

OK, one time:

Debt: the total the country owes to all its creditors.

Deficit: the difference between income and outgo, when outgo exceeds income.

Now you may think the debt is more important than the deficit. But they
are not the same thing.

If you disagree, walk up the basement steps and ask your momma.

SaPeIsMa

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May 15, 2013, 9:13:16 PM5/15/13

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"Tom McDonald" <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h5Akt.11482$iS....@newsfe27.iad...

> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My book, ï¿½The Ultimate Obama Survival Guideï¿½ reports on Obamaï¿½s
>>>> purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
>>>> with massive spending, entitlements and debt.
>>>
>>> Wow. Looks like the author forgot his tin foil hat.
>>
>>
>> Yeah. We have corporations making the largest profits in the history of
>> mankind. We have the stock exchange setting new record highs every day.
>>
>> If Obama is trying to destroy capitalism in the US, he's really doing a
>> lousy job of it.
>>
> True. Plus he's bringing the deficit down faster than anyone since the end
> of WWII.

LOL
Sure he is.
But ONLY if you're fucking stupid and believe that you can spend your way
out of a deficit.

Scout

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May 15, 2013, 9:31:15 PM5/15/13

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"deep" wrote in message news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfgh...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"deep" wrote in message news:lh38p85kuemf4734n...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of additional
>>>>> spending into that budget while he was President.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue
>>>>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as deficit
>>>>> spending?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>;)
>>>
>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the House
>>> of Representatives.
>>>
>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>>
>>When he fucking signs the bill into law.
>
> After both houses of Congress have passed it.
>
> How long has it been since that happened?

Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.

And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added to FY2008 budget
with Obama's signature.

RD Sandman

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May 15, 2013, 9:48:29 PM5/15/13

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deep wrote in news:lh38p85kuemf4734n...@4ax.com:

When the Senate hadn't passed a budget since 2008. Budget process
simplified:

White House produces a budget (which shows the presidential priorities)
House produces a budget
Senate produces a budget
A committee made up congressmen and senators review the three budgets and
combine them in one form or another into a joint budget.
The joint budget goes to both houses for resolution.
When resolved, the budget goes to the president for signature.

Now, spending bills do originate (in general) in the House.

RD Sandman

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May 15, 2013, 9:49:30 PM5/15/13

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Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
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And when compared to the budget, become deficits and surpluses which add
to the debt.

RD Sandman

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May 15, 2013, 9:51:47 PM5/15/13

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deep wrote in news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfgh...@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"deep" wrote in message
>>news:lh38p85kuemf4734n...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of
>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was President.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue
>>>>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as
>>>>> deficit spending?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>;)
>>>
>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the
>>> House of Representatives.
>>>
>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>>
>>When he fucking signs the bill into law.
>
> After both houses of Congress have passed it.
>
> How long has it been since that happened?

The Senate hadn't passed one since 2008. The House and President have
presented a budget each year.

>>Oh, and Dudu.....the Senate is also involved in the budget. It simply
>>STARTS in the House, but that isn't where it ends.
>
> No shit, Sherlock.
>
>>
>>We will add how bills become law to those things of which Dudu is
>>ignorant.
>>
> Writing the original bill is the responsibility of the House of
> Representatives, like I said. Find someone to explain it to you
> moron.
>

Not on budgets, it isn't. It is a joint operation. Spending bills, yes.

%

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May 15, 2013, 9:57:56 PM5/15/13

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Scout wrote:
> "deep" wrote in message
> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfgh...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
>> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "deep" wrote in message
>>> news:lh38p85kuemf4734n...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>>>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of
>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was President.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue
>>>>>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as
>>>>>> deficit spending?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the
>>>> House of Representatives.
>>>>
>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>>>
>>> When he fucking signs the bill into law.
>>
>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.
>>
>> How long has it been since that happened?
>
> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.
>
> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added to FY2008
> budget with Obama's signature.

a president has to sign it wich other one would you like

Zepp

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May 15, 2013, 10:26:47 PM5/15/13

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Surpluses add to the debt?

Tell us MORE!

Scout

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May 15, 2013, 10:49:14 PM5/15/13

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"%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes, and in the case of the $800 Billion added to the FY2008 budget...that
President was Obama. Not because I like it, but because he was the President
that signed the legislation into law.

Gray Guest

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May 15, 2013, 10:58:06 PM5/15/13

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Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in

news:liWkt.951$8y....@newsfe03.iad:

> On 5/15/2013 7:15 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:xxLkt.8063$0y4.5880
>> @newsfe08.iad:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2013 10:56 PM, Gray Guest wrote:> Tom McDonald
>>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3BBkt.7033$Km3.2796
>>>> @newsfe31.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
>>>>>> @newsfe27.iad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> My book, �The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide� reports on Obama�s

And, Zipperhead, do you really think one has nothing to do with the other.

Aside from the fact that I've already shown that since the DEBT is
increasing every year and the amount by which it is increasing every, I
would think even you could figure out why

1) They both matter
2) You Lied.

Zepp

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May 15, 2013, 11:43:37 PM5/15/13

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And the fact that the deficit is dropping each year tells us what,
Ghostie?

Care to take a swing at that?

Zepp

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May 15, 2013, 11:46:23 PM5/15/13

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 21:31:15 -0400, Scout wrote:

> "deep" wrote in message
> news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfgh...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
>> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"deep" wrote in message
>>>news:lh38p85kuemf4734n...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>>>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of
>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was President.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue
>>>>>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as
>>>>>> deficit spending?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>;)
>>>>
>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the House
>>>> of Representatives.
>>>>
>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>>>
>>>When he fucking signs the bill into law.
>>
>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.
>>
>> How long has it been since that happened?
>
> Every fucking time a spending bill becomes law.
>
> And did occur when the $800 Billion in spending was added to FY2008
> budget with Obama's signature.

Scooty, could you tell us how Obama signed the FY2008 budget when he
didn't become President until January 2009?

Zepp

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May 15, 2013, 11:56:41 PM5/15/13

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 20:13:16 -0500, SaPeIsMa wrote:

> "Tom McDonald" <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h5Akt.11482$iS....@newsfe27.iad...
>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>

>>>>> My book, “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide” reports on Obama’s

>>>>> purposeful plan to take down capitalism by overwhelming the system
>>>>> with massive spending, entitlements and debt.
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Looks like the author forgot his tin foil hat.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah. We have corporations making the largest profits in the history
>>> of mankind. We have the stock exchange setting new record highs every
>>> day.
>>>
>>> If Obama is trying to destroy capitalism in the US, he's really doing
>>> a lousy job of it.
>>>
>> True. Plus he's bringing the deficit down faster than anyone since the
>> end of WWII.
>
>
>
>
> LOL
> Sure he is.
> But ONLY if you're fucking stupid and believe that you can spend your
> way out of a deficit.

How's austerity working for Europe these days?

Oh, and wouldn't this recession have ended two years ago if it weren't
for austerity?

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On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>
>

It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why they use
that convention.

>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed spending
>legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD more spending to the
>FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he did. To the tune of $800
>Billlion in additional deficit spending.

He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts that
didn't help the economy.

Free Lunch

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May 16, 2013, 6:20:51 PM5/16/13

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On Wed, 15 May 2013 20:51:47 -0500, RD Sandman
<rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>deep wrote in news:ba78p8tas9tjhvfgh...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 19:29:08 -0400, "Scout"
>> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"deep" wrote in message
>>>news:lh38p85kuemf4734n...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:47:25 -0500, RD Sandman
>>>> <rdsandman[remove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And I believe Obama signed into law some $800 Billion of
>>>>>> additional spending into that budget while he was President.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since they had already budgeted more than they had in revenue
>>>>>> shouldn't we calculate that entire amount added under Obama as
>>>>>> deficit spending?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>;)
>>>>
>>>> Gee, and here I thought the budget was the responsiblity of the
>>>> House of Representatives.
>>>>
>>>> Since when did The Executive write the budget?
>>>
>>>When he fucking signs the bill into law.
>>
>> After both houses of Congress have passed it.
>>
>> How long has it been since that happened?
>
>The Senate hadn't passed one since 2008. The House and President have
>presented a budget each year.

So what? The budget does not affect any taxes or spending. It's the
blueprint that Congress might use in deciding their spending bills, but
it is not controlling.

Scout

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May 16, 2013, 6:22:29 PM5/16/13

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"Zepp" <de...@gone.com> wrote in message news:kn2po7$54m$1...@dont-email.me...

It was part of it because it was ADDED TO IT.

Sheese, are you naturally this stupid Zepp or did you need to take lessons?

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May 16, 2013, 6:54:36 PM5/16/13

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On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:24:10 -0400, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at this time hurts
Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity supporters have demonstrated their
ignorance of economics.

Free Lunch

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May 16, 2013, 6:57:54 PM5/16/13

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On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:44:02 -0400, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>
>

The FY 2008 budget ended on Sept. 30, 2008. I will accept the idea that
someone cannot easily guess how FY works.

deep

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May 16, 2013, 7:09:38 PM5/16/13

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On Thu, 16 May 2013 17:57:54 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:

>The FY 2008 budget ended on Sept. 30, 2008. I will accept the idea that
>someone cannot easily guess how FY works.

October 1st fiscal years is very common in government and some private
business. They do that so that end of year financial issues and
rushes do not happen during the year end holidays.

deep

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May 16, 2013, 7:19:08 PM5/16/13

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On Thu, 16 May 2013 17:54:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:

>>Well, European countries are free to donate as much money as they like. I'm
>>sure the Obama can find something to spend it on. He certainly hasn't had
>>trouble spending far more than we have.

"Deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney

>>
>You don't seem to understand the problem. Austerity at this time hurts
>Europe and it hurts the US. Austerity supporters have demonstrated their
>ignorance of economics.

Of course Scooter doesn't understand the problem. He never does. It's
mind boggling how Republicans keep going on about tax cuts to
stimulate the economy when if that worked the Bush tax cuts would have
put us into an economic boom, not a total bust.

Tom McDonald

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May 16, 2013, 8:32:34 PM5/16/13

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Oh, but you don't get it. *Those* tax cuts didn't work because <mumble
mumble damn Democrats mumble mumble> But *These* new tax cuts will make
the economy come back like gangbusters!

We just gotta keep trying tax cuts. Eventually they just *have* to work!

deep

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On Thu, 16 May 2013 19:32:34 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
wrote:

The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over
expecting a different result.

Zepp

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Given that 95% of each annual deficit results directly from things Bush
did, that's true.

Gray Guest

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May 16, 2013, 9:12:53 PM5/16/13

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Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:p%2lt.26998$KS1.13620
@newsfe05.iad:

> On 5/15/2013 9:58 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:liWkt.951$8y....@newsfe03.iad:
>>
>>> On 5/15/2013 7:15 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:xxLkt.8063$0y4.5880
>>>> @newsfe08.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2013 10:56 PM, Gray Guest wrote:> Tom McDonald
>>>>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3BBkt.7033$Km3.2796
>>>>>> @newsfe31.iad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118
>>>>>>>> @newsfe27.iad:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>>>>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> My book, �The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide� reports on
Obama�s

You are stupid and/or math impaired. You said Obama was reducing the
deficit more than any other President. Are you using affirmative action
math? If the debt increases by larger amounts each year how is reduing the
deficit.

--
Refusenik #1

Libs suffer from Eleutherophobia. And there is no cure.

Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama,
THEY GOT DENIED. Fuck Obama

Zepp

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On Thu, 16 May 2013 18:24:10 -0400, Scout wrote:

So tell us, Scooty: did that rejoinder make any sense to you as you were
typing it? Inquiring minds want to know.

Gray Guest

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"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:kn2imq$1qq$1...@dont-email.me:

> "Tom McDonald" <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:p%2lt.26998$KS1....@newsfe05.iad...
>> On 5/15/2013 9:58 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:liWkt.951$8y....@newsfe03.iad:
>>>
>>>> On 5/15/2013 7:15 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:xxLkt.8063$0y4.5880
>>>>> @newsfe08.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 10:56 PM, Gray Guest wrote:> Tom McDonald
>>>>>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3BBkt.7033$Km3.2796
>>>>>>> @newsfe31.iad:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:h5Akt.11482$iS.2118 @newsfe27.iad:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>>>>>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> My book, �The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide� reports on

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama�s purposeful plan to take down capitalism by

Did he have one to start with?

Gray Guest

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May 16, 2013, 9:41:58 PM5/16/13

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Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:wVflt.7593$Bx4.383
@newsfe29.iad:

> On 5/16/2013 8:12 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:p%2lt.26998$KS1.13620
>> @newsfe05.iad:
>>
>>> On 5/15/2013 9:58 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:liWkt.951$8y....@newsfe03.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/15/2013 7:15 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:xxLkt.8063$0y4.5880
>>>>>> @newsfe08.iad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 10:56 PM, Gray Guest wrote:> Tom McDonald
>>>>>>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3BBkt.7033$Km3.2796
>>>>>>>> @newsfe31.iad:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 8:11 PM, Gray Guest wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in news:h5Akt.11482
$iS.2118
>>>>>>>>>> @newsfe27.iad:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2013 6:45 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <tuf4p8t6l5f5fs2ka...@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2013 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kurtn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My book, �The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide� reports on

>> Obama�s

I note with contempt you have refused to provide a bit of evidence to
support your zipperheaded lies. I, OTOH, directed you to the OFFICIAL US
GOVERNMENT website that details the DEBT and showed you how much the DEBT
increases every years which proves that your idiotic claim that he is
reducing the defict is alie.

Besides, Buckwheat can't reduce the debt or the deficit on his own.

You are pathetic and going to have a very bad end becuase we have just
about had enough of you and the rest of the vermin.

RD Sandman

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Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in

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Not really, that ignorance of economics was there before the austerity
measures were put into place to try and fix them.

--
Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman

You can be young without money, but you
can't be old without it.

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deep wrote in news:impap8p63sdhi8kov...@4ax.com:

Some do, some don't. Some start on July 1 and end on June 30. With
fiscal years it is up the entity using it when it starts and stops.
However, the government and some private businesses do use Sept 30 as the
end of the FY, just not all of them.

RD Sandman

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Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in

news:bnmap814vfj9j8elq...@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 16 May 2013 02:12:39 -0400, "Scout"
> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>>
>>

>>"Zepp" <de...@gone.com> wrote in message

>>news:kn1q41$knk$9...@dont-email.me...

>>> On Thu, 16 May 2013 01:06:12 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Zepp" <de...@gone.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:kn1lji$knk$6...@dont-email.me...

>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> You're not bothering to read what I wrote.
>>>>
>>>> What part of "ADDED TO" (emphasis added) do you think means he
>>>> signed the original budget?
>>>
>>> Well then, perhaps you could tell us how something he signed in 2009
>>> added to a budget that was over several months earlier.
>>
>>Ok..... real slowly. FY2008 runs between Sept 2008 and Sept 2009.
>
> It runs between Oct 1, 2007 and Sept 30, 2008. I don't know why they
> use that convention.
>
>>You will note that Obama took office in Jan 2009. If he signed
>>spending legislation between Jan 2009 and Sept 2009 he could ADD more
>>spending to the FY2008 budget. Which SOB is EXACTLY what he did. To
>>the tune of $800 Billlion in additional deficit spending.
>
> He did add spending and foolishly added too many useless tax cuts that
> didn't help the economy.

But not to the FY2008 FY which ended 9/30/08. He took office under the
2009FY budget.

>>I will acknowledge your ignorance not only of Obama's actions, but how
>>the government runs it's fiscal year.
>>
>>Now, are there any other gems of your ignorance you would like to
>>display to the world?