Evidence confirms that "natural evolution" has never happened in the
janp...@gmail.com
sciences (i.e. physics, mechanics, astronomy, astrophysics, etc.)
conceal from the society an entire ocean of evidence concerning the
existence of God, eternal soul, another world, etc. But not many are
aware that in a similar manner a lot of such evidence is also
concealed by representatives of other scientific disciplines,
especially that of biological sciences (i.e. biology, medicine,
botanic, zoology, etc.). These other disciplines also work for the
detriment of humanity by concealing from people an entire ocean of
evidence for the existence of God, eternal soul, another world, etc.
Simultaneously they feed the society with a various fables of the type
of "theory of evolution", or the "holographic model of memory" - for
the correctness of which there is no even a single item of undeniable
evidence. In this manner representatives of biological sciences
actively contribute towards depriving people of the chance for taking
"informed decisions" in matters of God, soul, another world, etc.
After all, in order to take such informed decision people need to know
about these items of evidence. But through concealing the evidence,
representatives of biological sciences make impression on people that
such evidence is non-existing. In this manner biologists almost
forcefully push ordinary people into the atheism. In turn according to
the Bible - which is authorized by God himself, the atheism has
serious consequences for its adherers (see item #C4 of the web page
"bible.htm"). In this manner biologists have on their conscience
"eternal suffering" of a multitude of people who were tricked by them
into lies that there is no evidence for the existence of God, eternal
soul, another world, etc.
A large list of different groups of evidence about the existence of
God, eternal soul, another world, etc., which is concealed from the
society by biologists, is provided in item #F2 of my web page
"bible.htm", and also in message 142E from blogs of totalizm. Blogs of
totalizm can be viewed at following addresses:
http://www.getablog.net/totalizm
http://totalizm.wordpress.com
http://totalizm.myblog.net
http://www.newfreehost.com/weblog/?u=god
In turn a similarly long list of such evidence for the existence of
God, soul, another world, etc., concealed from the society by
physicist, was discussed on the thread
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/0b85905d2dc9f083#c374dc041f3c5fdf
One amongst items of such carefully concealed cases of evidence for
the existence of God that typically is concealed by biologists, is the
empirically striking fact that oldest creatures (animals) on Earth are
equally perfect and equally well adjusted to present conditions, as
these newest creatures (animals).
Examples of such oldest creatures, which are known to everyone and
which organisms are equally perfect as organisms of most recent
creatures, are "trilobites". Trilobites belong actually to the oldest
creatures on Earth. But they still live until today in sea waters of
Malaysia. In Malaysia these are eaten as so-called "kings crabs". In
spite of their impressive age, their organisms are equally perfect as
organisms of the newest creatures. A similar case is with lizards and
crocodiles, and also with sharks. In spite of their impressive age,
their organisms are equally perfect as organisms of most recent
creatures.
According to the model of evolution, creatures most recent should be
significantly more perfect than these oldest creatures. But according
to the model of creation of creatures by God, all creatures were
created in their perfect form. After all, in case of creation the
chronology of their appearing in the physical world depends only on
the function that according to the God's will they are to perform in
the entire ecosystem. Thus the fact that organisms of the oldest
creatures are equally perfect as organisms of the most recent
creatures, proves that in fact there was never such thing which the
science to-date describes under the name of "natural evolution".
In this way the existing evidence indicates that in reality the
"natural evolution" never took place. In fact, what science
incorrectly interprets as a "natural evolution", in reality was only a
completion of the ecosystem by God. God simply completed the ecosystem
gradually. Initially He created only these most needed creatures, then
creatures less required. Some creatures, e.g. "dinosaurs", God
introduced only temporary, then replacing their role with a whole
range of other creatures, while eliminating dinosaurs. In His
completion of the ecosystem God acted similarly as young owners of new
flats complete their furniture. I.e. since they are unable to
introduce everything at once, they firstly introduce whatever is the
most important. Then gradually add the equipment. Some items of
furniture they introduce only temporary - only till the time when they
are able to replace it with a series of other items which are more
specialized.
Insisting that there was a "natural evolution" only because there was
a definite chronology with which God introduced subsequent animals to
ecosystem, is equally absurd like claiming that typical young couples
do NOT furnish their flat all at once because they await until
factories made better versions of whatever these couples need. On the
other hand, declaring the existence of "natural evolution" when there
is a wealth of evidence confirming the most old creatures to be
equally perfect like these most recent ones, is actually an abuse of
logical thinking.
The above information was adopted from item #B6.3 of the web page
"evolution.htm". It should be available at following internet
addresses:
http://bible.webng.com/evolution.htm
http://energy.atspace.org/evolution.htm
http://evidence.ueuo.com/evolution.htm
http://evil.thefreehost.biz/evolution.htm
http://fruit.sitesled.com/evolution.htm
http://fruit.xphost.org/evolution.htm
http://god.ez-sites.ws/evolution.htm
http://karma.freewebpages.org/evolution.htm
http://memorial.awardspace.info/bible.htm
http://newzealand.myfreewebs.net/evolution.htm
http://nirvana.scienceontheweb.net/evolution.htm
http://pigs.freehyperspace.com/evolution.htm
http://parasitism.about.tc/evolution.htm
http://parasitism.xphost.org/evolution.htm
http://rubik.hits.io/evolution.htm
http://users3.nofeehost.com/devils/evolution.htm
http://wszewilki.greatnow.com/evolution.htm
One item earlier on the same web page, i.e. in item #B6.2, a formal
proof is provided, completed with methods of mathematical logic, that
a first couple of humans was created by God. A similar proof was
discussed on the thread
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/9d7e62b9be872ac3/2d70a1621314beb6#2d70a1621314beb6
I should also repeat that each address indicated above has all the web
pages of totalizm. Thus, if someone wishes to view descriptions from
any other web pages of totalizm, e.g. from web pages listed in this
message, then in the above addresses the name "evolution.htm" is just
enough to exchange for the name of the web page that he or she wishes
to view, e.g. the web page "dipolar_gravity.htm", "god.htm",
"bible.htm", "text_1_5.htm", "bible.htm", "nirvana.htm", "evil.htm",
etc.
With totaliztic salute,
Jan Pajak (Prof. Dr Eng.)
janp...@gmail.com
You seem to have a "serpent" amongst your team of moderators from this
group. The fate of the above my post is an excellent example of
operation of this "serpent". I actually posted this message for your
group on 10th December 2007 (of Korean time), while it appeared only
now, 2 days later, when in Korea is 12th December 2007. And the only
reason why it appeared is that Jenny from another thread
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/f0db43099e233aef
brought the matter to light and the censorship of my posts come to the
attention of readers.
You probably wonder who is a "serpent". Well, a "serpent" is a
creature which looks exactly like a human, acts exactly like a human,
and speaks exactly as a human - however he or she is NOT a human.
Serpents are close relatives of humans. They parasite on humans from
the Earth. However, they come to the Earth from a different planet.
Because they look indistinguishably similar to people, they mix with
the crowd and take positions within the human society, although they
are NOT humans and they are only here to parasite on humans. Because I
work very hard to disclose the existence of these our sworn enemies,
they do all sorts of tricks to stop my writings, e.g. they censor them
out from appearing, or they sabotage my web pages, etc. The name of
"serpent" actually originates from the Bible, which also warns us
about their existence and work amongst people. The Biblical Book of
Genesis 3:1 describes them as follows: "Now the serpent was more
cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made." I
already explained in my previous threads how these well masked
serpents sabotage the internet, including this group, on many
different ways - e.g. see
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/f43b7ee2d9d8e837/ecabc492dd893a64#ecabc492dd893a64
and http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/88cbf43fad1d229d#d51e5ea41b955543
. Recently these serpents started to panic, because my information is
starting to disclose that they do exist, that they are physical -
although extremely advanced technically, and that they work to the
detriment of humanity. So they sabotage my messages as much as they
can.
One of the ways of sabotaging my messages depends on the favorite
trick of serpents, which is expressed in their proverb, quote: "If you
wish to hide a tree, plant a forest around it". So in order to hide my
recent messages, these serpents flooded lately the group with around
500 threads. (They probably have other goals as well in this
flooding.) A matter of this recent "flooding" of your group is raised
and discussed in the thread
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/52ce73710b54fa96#e78294fbb0ab0348
.
Much more information about these serpents, including their anatomic
features which allow us to approximately estimate who belongs to their
"pack" and examples of their photos, is provided on the web page
"evil.htm". Have a look at this web page. It is available under any of
following addresses (only on these ones which are NOT sabotaged yet by
serpents, as my web pages are sabotaged continually):
http://bible.webng.com/evil.htm
http://energy.atspace.org/evil.htm
http://evidence.ueuo.com/evil.htm
http://evil.thefreehost.biz/evil.htm
http://fruit.sitesled.com/evil.htm
http://fruit.xphost.org/evil.htm
http://god.ez-sites.ws/evil.htm
http://karma.freewebpages.org/evil.htm
http://magnocraft.jp.md/evil.htm
http://memorial.awardspace.info/evil.htm
http://newzealand.myfreewebs.net/evil.htm
http://nirvana.scienceontheweb.net/evil.htm
http://pigs.freehyperspace.com/evil.htm
http://parasitism.about.tc/evil.htm
http://parasitism.xphost.org/evil.htm
http://rubik.hits.io/evil.htm
http://tornado.99k.org/evil.htm
http://users3.nofeehost.com/devils/evil.htm
http://wszewilki.greatnow.com/evil.htm
I should also repeat here that each address indicated above has all
the web pages of totalizm. Thus, if someone wishes to view
descriptions from any other web pages of totalizm, then in the above
addresses the name "evil.htm" is just enough to exchange for the name
of the web page that he or she wishes to view, e.g. the web page
"evolution.htm", "bible.htm" , "god.htm", "text_1_5.htm",
"nirvana.htm", etc.
With the totaliztic salute,
Garamond Lethe
<snip>
> You probably wonder who is a "serpent". Well, a "serpent" is a creature
> which looks exactly like a human, acts exactly like a human, and speaks
> exactly as a human - however he or she is NOT a human.
Do they have qualia?
<snip>
Richard Smol
> Increasingly more people are aware that representatives of physical
> sciences (i.e. physics, mechanics, astronomy, astrophysics, etc.)
> conceal from the society an entire ocean of evidence concerning the
> existence of God, eternal soul, another world, etc.
If by "conceal" you mean "nobody ever provided any evidence for their
existence", then you're right.
RS
wf3h
> Increasingly more people are aware that representatives of physical
> sciences (i.e. physics, mechanics, astronomy, astrophysics, etc.)
> conceal from the society an entire ocean of evidence concerning the
> existence of God, eternal soul, another world, etc.
?? a religious fanatic using his scientist invented computer to
complain about science?
But not many are
> aware that in a similar manner a lot of such evidence is also
> concealed by representatives of other scientific disciplines,
> especially that of biological sciences (i.e. biology, medicine,
> botanic, zoology, etc.). These other disciplines also work for the
> detriment of humanity by concealing from people an entire ocean of
> evidence for the existence of God,
this is true. at midnite on fridays we scientists get together to talk
about how to delude the public.
eternal soul, another world, etc.
> Simultaneously they feed the society with a various fables of the type
> of "theory of evolution", or the "holographic model of memory" - for
> the correctness of which there is no even a single item of undeniable
> evidence.
evidence?
where's the evidence for god? seems xtians, jews and muslims have
slaughtered each other over this very question.
>
> One amongst items of such carefully concealed cases of evidence for
> the existence of God that typically is concealed by biologists, is the
> empirically striking fact that oldest creatures (animals) on Earth are
> equally perfect and equally well adjusted to present conditions, as
> these newest creatures (animals).
?? isnt this what we'd expect from evolution? in addition many species
have gone extinct. how does your god idea explain that?
>
> In this way the existing evidence indicates that in reality the
> "natural evolution" never took place. In fact, what science
> incorrectly interprets as a "natural evolution", in reality was only a
> completion of the ecosystem by God. God simply completed the ecosystem
> gradually. Initially He created only these most needed creatures,
what's a 'most needed' creature? you saying god is unable to form all
creatures perfectly needed?
then
> creatures less required. Some creatures, e.g. "dinosaurs", God
> introduced only temporary, then replacing their role with a whole
> range of other creatures, while eliminating dinosaurs.\\
and why'd he do this? he have too much time on his hands and needed to
horse around?
>
> With totaliztic salute,
> Jan Pajak (Prof. Dr Eng.)
oh...this guy. i actually read the whole damn thing before realizing
this idiot was back.
Lee Jay
> According to the model of evolution, creatures most recent should be
> significantly more perfect than these oldest creatures.
Why is it that you Creationists don't even *attempt* to understand
even the most basic aspects of the theory you claim is in error?
>But according to the model of creation of creatures by God,
> all creatures were created in their perfect form.
Perfect? Come on, you can't possibly be ignorant enough to claim that
the human body is perfect! Yes, I know, Creationists often claim
that, but surely by now you've all realized the utter absurdity of
this claim. Haven't you?
Lee Jay
Desertphile
> Increasingly more people are aware that representatives of physical
> sciences (i.e. physics, mechanics, astronomy, astrophysics, etc.)
> conceal from the society an entire ocean of evidence concerning the
> existence of God |sic|, eternal soul, another world, etc.
Oh, how *DARE* they?!
Now then: please offer some evidence showing gods exist. Thank
you.
--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Robert Weldon
> sciences (i.e. physics, mechanics, astronomy, astrophysics, etc.)
> conceal from the society an entire ocean of evidence concerning the
> existence of God, eternal soul, another world, etc. But not many are
> aware that in a similar manner a lot of such evidence is also
> concealed by representatives of other scientific disciplines,
> especially that of biological sciences (i.e. biology, medicine,
> botanic, zoology, etc.).
-bulk of religous and other demented crap snipped.
>
> With totaliztic salute,
> Jan Pajak (Prof. Dr Eng.)
O crap, this loon has managed to stumble back into the group. What
baffles me is how someone this unhinged manages to get a doctorate in
engineering. It is nutbars like this that makes me ashamed to admit
that I am an engineer. Tell me, herr doctor, are you seriously
suggesting that every scientist in the world is involved in some huge
conspiracy?
Cory Albrecht
> O crap, this loon has managed to stumble back into the group. What
> baffles me is how someone this unhinged manages to get a doctorate in
> engineering. It is nutbars like this that makes me ashamed to admit
> that I am an engineer. Tell me, herr doctor, are you seriously
> suggesting that every scientist in the world is involved in some huge
> conspiracy?
Oh, yes, and he is also seriously suggesting that said huge conspiracy
is helped along by a human-appearing reptiloid alien species.
Bob Casanova
appeared in talk.origins, posted by janp...@gmail.com:
>Increasingly more people are aware that representatives of physical
>sciences (i.e. physics, mechanics, astronomy, astrophysics, etc.)
>conceal from the society an entire ocean of evidence concerning the
>existence of God, eternal soul, another world, etc.
Yeah, that must be why one never sees this evidence; the
omnipotent "representatives of physical sciences" suppress
it, just as they suppress any mention of "God, eternal soul,
another world, etc.". In fact, your post doesn't even exist.
<snip>
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
janp...@gmail.com
...
It is nutbars like this that makes me ashamed to admit
> that I am an engineer.
Well, I see that your "Internet Terrorizing" organization gave you the
task to follow my footsteps and spit in my direction at every message
I wrote. I just replied to your spitting at the thread
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/browse_thread/thread/794ec56b11262a51#06c27af933d827fd
. And here you are, repeating the same spitting also on this group.
You could, after all, invent something different this time. The Bible
says about "serpents", quote from Genesis 3:1: "Now the serpent was
more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made."
it why you are assigned to just follow my footsteps and spit at me?
Anyway, I repeat here again what I replied at your other spitting at
the thread http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/browse_thread/thread/794ec56b11262a51#06c27af933d827fd:
I am also ashamed that you are an engineer. You are definitely not any
of my students - they use their mouths for eating and speaking.
Perhaps I should quote again the motto from item #C1.1 of the web page
"nirvana.htm": "The differentiation of mischievous spitting and
sarcastic scoffing at an idea under the excuse that it is just a
criticism of that idea, from a true constructive criticism of that
idea, is simple: mischievous spitting raises points which can be
raised about any possible idea and against any possible person; in
turn a constructive criticism concentrates exclusively on matters
which relate directly to the subject that this criticism concerns and
therefore which do not apply for any other idea, person, or matter. So
just by simple checking whether someone's objections can be applied to
all other ideas as well, or just to this one, you immediately know
whether the criticizer is just trying to be mischievous and smart, or
really have valid points to make."
That item #C1.1. of the web page "nirvana.htm" contains also a formal
proof that "people do have eternal souls". The proof is completed with
methods of mathematical logic. So I am inviting all rational readers
to have a look at this proof. By rational readers I understand the
ones who can see the complete lack of arguments of these "serpents"
that wave their tails on this thread, and who can also realize that
constructive discussion on this thread is on purpose turned into an
race of spitting, mud throwing, calling names, etc. - means everything
that these serpents they can use to scare people from free expression
of truth regarding God. On a different thread that appeared at
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/f43b7ee2d9d8e837/ecabc492dd893a64#ecabc492dd893a64
, I call them "Internet terrorists" - as they actually terrorize the
freedom of discussion in Internet.
These ones who wish to have a look at the web page "nirvana.htm",
should be able to find it under any amongst following addresses:
http://bible.webng.com/nirvana.htm
http://energy.atspace.org/nirvana.htm
http://evidence.ueuo.com/nirvana.htm
http://evil.thefreehost.biz/nirvana.htm
http://fruit.sitesled.com/nirvana.htm
http://fruit.xphost.org/nirvana.htm
http://god.ez-sites.ws/nirvana.htm
http://karma.freewebpages.org/nirvana.htm
http://magnocraft.jp.md/nirvana.htm
http://memorial.awardspace.info/nirvana.htm
http://newzealand.myfreewebs.net/nirvana.htm
http://nirvana.scienceontheweb.net/nirvana.htm
http://pigs.freehyperspace.com/nirvana.htm
http://parasitism.about.tc/nirvana.htm
http://parasitism.xphost.org/nirvana.htm
http://rubik.hits.io/nirvana.htm
http://tornado.99k.org/nirvana.htm
http://users3.nofeehost.com/devils/nirvana.htm
http://wszewilki.greatnow.com/nirvana.htm
The same proof for the existence of eternal soul is published in
message #137E on blogs of totalizm which should be visible under
addresses:
http://www.getablog.net/totalizm
http://totalizm.wordpress.com
http://totalizm.myblog.net
http://www.newfreehost.com/weblog/?u=god
With the totaliztic salute,
Dick C
>
> You seem to have a "serpent" amongst your team of moderators from this
> group. The fate of the above my post is an excellent example of
> operation of this "serpent".
What, the post has been changed to make it seem like it came from an insane
and incoherent nutcase?
I actually posted this message for your
> group on 10th December 2007 (of Korean time), while it appeared only
> now, 2 days later, when in Korea is 12th December 2007. And the only
> reason why it appeared is that Jenny from another thread
> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/f0db4309
> 9e233aef brought the matter to light and the censorship of my posts come
> to the attention of readers.
You need to apply some effort to learning about the usenet.
snip incoherent rambling.
--
Dick #1349
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
~Benjamin Franklin
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email: dic...@comcast.net
Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
> On Dec 12, 11:24 am, Robert Weldon <rwel...@jrp.ca> wrote:
> ...
> It is nutbars like this that makes me ashamed to admit> that I am an engineer.
>
> ...
> Well, I see that your "Internet Terrorizing" organization gave you the
> task to follow my footsteps and spit in my direction at every message
> I wrote.
No, actually, I was assigned to this, but was distracted by that nasty
work stuff. Sorry, I will now proceed with internet terrorizing as
previously requested.
You are a stupid ape. How could you think such crap? Your heretical
writings will be disconnected from the internerds shortly. Men in
large van will be around to escort you to hospital for sick people.
Don't worry, we give good drugs.
Mentalese Salute!
--
Al
98% Chimp, but still 97% Bonobo. :-D
Walter Bushell
<5f79d1d2-cbf1-4181...@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Lee Jay <ljfi...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Perfect? Come on, you can't possibly be ignorant enough to claim that
> the human body is perfect! Yes, I know, Creationists often claim
> that, but surely by now you've all realized the utter absurdity of
> this claim. Haven't you?
>
> Lee Jay
For what kind of deity would the human body be perfect? I would suggest
for a sadist.
Kermit
> On Dec 12, 11:24 am, Robert Weldon <rwel...@jrp.ca> wrote:
> ...
> It is nutbars like this that makes me ashamed to admit> that I am an engineer.
>
> ...
> Well, I see that your "Internet Terrorizing"
Terrorists kill people and try to cause general chaos and anxiety. We
are disagreeing with you. Are you saying that you see no moral or
political disfference between discourse and mass murder?
Should I be worried about you?
> organization gave you the
> task to follow my footsteps and spit in my direction at every message
> I wrote. I just replied to your spitting at the threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/browse_thread/thread/794ec...
> . And here you are, repeating the same spitting also on this group.
> You could, after all, invent something different this time. The Bible
> says about "serpents", quote from Genesis 3:1: "Now the serpent was
> more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made."
> However, it does NOT appear that you can do what other serpents do. Is
> it why you are assigned to just follow my footsteps and spit at me?
It doesn't appear that serpents can do (mentally) what chimpanzees can
do, or cephalopods, or even cats. I live in the American West; are
they smarter where you live?
Perhaps one of your fundamental mistakes in making statements of fact
about the world, based on a book which is clearly contrary to the
world around us.
>
> Anyway, I repeat here again what I replied at your other spitting at
> the threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/browse_thread/thread/794ec...
>
> I am also ashamed that you are an engineer. You are definitely not any
> of my students - they use their mouths for eating and speaking.
Do you teach them prayer, or engineering?
Do you know what a metaphor is?
>
> Perhaps I should quote again the motto from item #C1.1 of the web page
> "nirvana.htm": "The differentiation of mischievous spitting and
> sarcastic scoffing at an idea under the excuse that it is just a
> criticism of that idea, from a true constructive criticism of that
> idea, is simple: mischievous spitting raises points which can be
> raised about any possible idea and against any possible person; in
> turn a constructive criticism concentrates exclusively on matters
> which relate directly to the subject that this criticism concerns and
> therefore which do not apply for any other idea, person, or matter. So
> just by simple checking whether someone's objections can be applied to
> all other ideas as well, or just to this one, you immediately know
> whether the criticizer is just trying to be mischievous and smart, or
> really have valid points to make."
Yes, it is common for religious teachers to warn of the dangers of
people scoffing at their assertions. I wonder why? In science ideas
are tested by looking at the evidence, and trying to falsify the model
that explains it.
If a model is not testable, it is not science. There are many models
that fit the data, but cannot be tested. Religious models are one
subset of these, but there are others.
>
> That item #C1.1. of the web page "nirvana.htm" contains also a formal
> proof that "people do have eternal souls". The proof is completed with
> methods of mathematical logic. So I am inviting all rational readers
> to have a look at this proof. By rational readers I understand the
> ones who can see the complete lack of arguments of these "serpents"
> that wave their tails on this thread, and who can also realize that
> constructive discussion on this thread is on purpose turned into an
> race of spitting, mud throwing, calling names, etc. - means everything
> that these serpents they can use to scare people from free expression
> of truth regarding God.
Do you have any arguments that are not based on scriptures? That is,
with verifiable evidence.
>On a different thread that appeared at
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/f43b7...
> , I call them "Internet terrorists" - as they actually terrorize the
> freedom of discussion in Internet.
>
You can calla dog's tail a leg, too. IT would then have five legs, but
it would still walk on four and wag the other.
Calling your critics "terrorists" does not change their nature, nor
save your unsupportable assertions.
> These ones who wish to have a look at the web page "nirvana.htm",
> should be able to find it under any amongst following addresses:
>
> http://bible.webng.com/nirvana.htm
For instance, your concept of nirvana starts right off declaring that
it is an outburst of "moral energy", which you claim is explained by a
theory of dipolar gravity. Do you have any physicist that discusses
this?
>
> The same proof for the existence of eternal soul is published in
> message #137E on blogs of totalizm which should be visible under
Your "proof" consists of a number of poorly articulated and completely
unsubstantiated assertions, followed by invalid conclusions. Your
emotional states, sensory experiences, and favorite holy scriptures
are not verifiable evidence of any kind, except perhaps for your
psychiatrist's areas of interest.
>
> With the totaliztic salute,
> Jan Pajak (Prof. Dr Eng.)
Kermit
Robert Weldon
> On Dec 12, 11:24 am, Robert Weldon <rwel...@jrp.ca> wrote:
> ...
> It is nutbars like this that makes me ashamed to admit> that I am an engineer.
>
> ...
> Well, I see that your "Internet Terrorizing" organization gave you the
> task to follow my footsteps and spit in my direction at every message
> . And here you are, repeating the same spitting also on this group.
Hmm, a nutbar, and paranoid as well, why am i not surprised. Sorry to
burst your world conspiracy bubble, but I also happen to follow that
group, as I enjoy poking sticks at nutbars and happened to see your
post.
And just so you know, I am not part of any "Internet Terrorizing"
organization, but of course that is exactly what a paranoid loon like
you will expect me to say.
And since you are repeating yourself, you get the same response here;
"If I was a student of yours, and your engineering instruction was as
demented as your posting history shows here, I would seriously
question the
competence of the administration that let you teach, file a complaint
with
your professional organization, look for a competent instructor, and
probably find a better quality engineering school, one that doesn't
let
mentally deranged people teach. I hope your engineering work is not
as full
of crap as your deluded quasi-religious shit you inflict on us here.
-regurgi-drivel snipped again"
> You could, after all, invent something different this time. The Bible
Sorry, your crap isn't worth any more of my time
-regurgi-drivel snipped, yet again.
Dwib
> You probably wonder who is a "serpent". Well, a "serpent" is a
> creature which looks exactly like a human, acts exactly like a human,
> and speaks exactly as a human - however he or she is NOT a human.
Okay, I'll ask the obvious question.
Is there any scientific way for identifying a "serpent"?
Do they have 2 hearts?
Do they like to eat bugs?
Do their eyes have an inner eyelid?
Dwib
Davej
> physical sciences (i.e. physics, mechanics, astronomy,
> astrophysics, etc.) conceal from the society an entire ocean
> of evidence concerning the existence of God, eternal soul,
> another world, etc.
Yeah, I keep God's fingerprints hidden away in an old shoebox.
> [...]
> According to the model of evolution, creatures most recent
> should be significantly more perfect than these oldest creatures.
> But according to the model of creation of creatures by God, all
> creatures were created in their perfect form.
Evolution has nothing to say about perfection. What is that? How do
you measure that? Evolution does show that complex animals show up
later than simple animals.
> Some creatures, e.g. "dinosaurs", God introduced only
> temporary, then replacing their role with a whole range of
> other creatures, while eliminating dinosaurs.
Some creatures? The vast majority of species that ever lived are now
extinct.
Woland
> You seem to have a "serpent" amongst your team of moderators from this
> group. The fate of the above my post is an excellent example of
> operation of this "serpent". I actually posted this message for your
> group on 10th December 2007 (of Korean time), while it appeared only
> now, 2 days later, when in Korea is 12th December 2007. And the only
> brought the matter to light and the censorship of my posts come to the
> attention of readers.
>
> You probably wonder who is a "serpent". Well, a "serpent" is a
> creature which looks exactly like a human, acts exactly like a human,
> and speaks exactly as a human - however he or she is NOT a human.
> Serpents are close relatives of humans. They parasite on humans from
> the Earth. However, they come to the Earth from a different planet.
> Because they look indistinguishably similar to people, they mix with
> the crowd and take positions within the human society, although they
> are NOT humans and they are only here to parasite on humans. Because I
> work very hard to disclose the existence of these our sworn enemies,
> they do all sorts of tricks to stop my writings, e.g. they censor them
> out from appearing, or they sabotage my web pages, etc. The name of
> "serpent" actually originates from the Bible, which also warns us
> about their existence and work amongst people. The Biblical Book of
> Genesis 3:1 describes them as follows: "Now the serpent was more
> cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made." I
> already explained in my previous threads how these well masked
> serpents sabotage the internet, including this group, on many
> andhttp://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/88cb...
> . Recently these serpents started to panic, because my information is
> starting to disclose that they do exist, that they are physical -
> although extremely advanced technically, and that they work to the
> detriment of humanity. So they sabotage my messages as much as they
> can.
>
> One of the ways of sabotaging my messages depends on the favorite
> trick of serpents, which is expressed in their proverb, quote: "If you
> wish to hide a tree, plant a forest around it". So in order to hide my
> recent messages, these serpents flooded lately the group with around
> 500 threads. (They probably have other goals as well in this
> flooding.) A matter of this recent "flooding" of your group is raised
> .
>
> Much more information about these serpents, including their anatomic
> features which allow us to approximately estimate who belongs to their
> "pack" and examples of their photos, is provided on the web page
> "evil.htm". Have a look at this web page. It is available under any of
> following addresses (only on these ones which are NOT sabotaged yet by
> serpents, as my web pages are sabotaged continually):
>
>
> I should also repeat here that each address indicated above has all
> the web pages of totalizm. Thus, if someone wishes to view
> descriptions from any other web pages of totalizm, then in the above
> addresses the name "evil.htm" is just enough to exchange for the name
> of the web page that he or she wishes to view, e.g. the web page
> "evolution.htm", "bible.htm" , "god.htm", "text_1_5.htm",
> "nirvana.htm", etc.
>
> With the totaliztic salute,
> Jan Pajak (Prof. Dr Eng.)
I used to love that tv series!
Bob Casanova
in talk.origins, posted by Walter Bushell <pr...@oanix.com>:
Much of the OT tends to confirm that evaluation...
John Wilkins
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:18:02 -0500, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by Walter Bushell <pr...@oanix.com>:
>
> >In article
> ><5f79d1d2-cbf1-4181...@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> > Lee Jay <ljfi...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Perfect? Come on, you can't possibly be ignorant enough to claim that
> >> the human body is perfect! Yes, I know, Creationists often claim
> >> that, but surely by now you've all realized the utter absurdity of
> >> this claim. Haven't you?
> >>
> >> Lee Jay
> >
> >For what kind of deity would the human body be perfect? I would suggest
> >for a sadist.
>
> Much of the OT tends to confirm that evaluation...
The human body was designed and built by a guy called Jerry, who
promised to do the job for half wot the other guys were asking, and
right away. However, he took twice as long and was never on site, and
there were no plans, and the only reason he got it certified is that
he's the brother of the inspector.
God was a bit pissed off when he saw the final product, but gave it a
coat of paint and spackled all the rough bits. Anyway, he was thrilled
with the beetles, which he had paid top dollar for by a well regarded
design firm, and that was actually the whole point.
Anyway, the warranty on the beetles was the full 20 billion years, while
the humans only got 150,000 years and wouldn't you know, just as the
warranty expired...
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Philosophy
University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."
Walter Bushell
Garamond Lethe <cartogr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, and humans don't.