Lauding Singapore's MM Lee Kwan Yew
RichAsianKid
Lots more to dissect (e.g. "The highest values for the smart fractions
are found in East Asia [1. Singapore IQ 127, 2. South Korea IQ 125, 3.
Japan IQ 124, 5. Taiwan IQ 123, 9. Hong Kong IQ 122]. A similar result
was found in psychometric (average) intelligence or in student
assessment studies [see Rindermann, 2007a]) but for the purposes of
these newsgroups I just wanted to quote this paragraph for interest:
"One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
in our data set only as highest degree �university degree�, no doctorate
or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
�Double Starred First Class Honours�. Our assessment procedure seems to
underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
list and the second highest rank in average ability (IQ 105), but �only�
the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place. And, that is
especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
government effectiveness. Singapore seems to have the best government in
the world. Lee Kuan Yew�s ability � indicated by his success � seems to
be underestimated again by the solely use of formal education. Of
course, Singapore was and still is no standard-bearer of liberty and
democracy and Lee Kuan Yew has attracted criticism because of this. But,
he stands apart from other leaders in terms of his exceptional success
for Singapore in growth, modernization, technology and since several
years also in science (up to now only STEM including biotechnology). Lee
is also apparently the only politician who has read and used the results
of intelligence research in his politics. In speeches he has cited
Thomas Bouchard and Richard Lynn (Chan & Chee, 1984), and he is the only
statesman, who has seen that intelligence enhancement not only needs an
improvement in the environment (like in educational policy) but also in
demographic policies, because parents transfer cognitive ability to
their children by creating a stimulating environment (especially by
education and modeling) and by transmission of their genes."
* * * * * *
http://www.iratde.org/issues/1-2009/tde_issue_1-2009_03_rindermann_et_al.pdf
The impact of smart fractions, cognitive ability of politicians and
average competence of peoples on social development
Heiner Rindermann, Michael Sailer and James Thompson
Abstract: Smart fraction theory supposes that gifted and talented
persons are especially relevant for societal development. Using results
for the 95th percentile from TIMSS 1995-2007, PISA 2000-2006 and PIRLS
2001-2006 we calculated an ability sum value (N=90 countries) for the
upper level group (equivalent to a within country IQ-threshold of 125 or
a student assessment score of 667) and compared its influence with the
mean ability and the 5th percentile ability on wealth (GDP), patent
rates, Nobel Prizes, numbers of scientists, political variables
(government effectiveness, democracy, rule of law, political liberty),
HIV, AIDS and homicide. Additionally, using information on school and
professional education, we estimated the cognitive competence of
political leaders in N=90 countries. Results of correlations, regression
and path analyses generally show a larger impact of the smart fractions�
ability on positively valued outcomes than of the mean result or the 5th
percentile fraction. The influence of the 5th percentile fraction on
HIV, AIDS and homicide, however, was stronger. The intelligence of
politicians was less important, a longitudinal crosslagged analysis
could show a positive influence on the cognitive development of nations.
Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam
Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore controls all Singaporeans judges
in Singapore .
HUn Sen = Lee Kuan Yew .
n Dec 11, 7:42 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Read the following paper.
>
> Lots more to dissect (e.g. "The highest values for the smart fractions
> are found in East Asia [1. Singapore IQ 127, 2. South Korea IQ 125, 3.
> Japan IQ 124, 5. Taiwan IQ 123, 9. Hong Kong IQ 122]. A similar result
> was found in psychometric (average) intelligence or in student
> assessment studies [see Rindermann, 2007a]) but for the purposes of
> these newsgroups I just wanted to quote this paragraph for interest:
>
> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
> in our data set only as highest degree “university degree”, no doctorate
> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
> “Double Starred First Class Honours”. Our assessment procedure seems to
> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
> list and the second highest rank in average ability (IQ 105), but “only”
> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place. And, that is
> especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
> government effectiveness. Singapore seems to have the best government in
> the world. Lee Kuan Yew’s ability – indicated by his success – seems to
> be underestimated again by the solely use of formal education. Of
> course, Singapore was and still is no standard-bearer of liberty and
> democracy and Lee Kuan Yew has attracted criticism because of this. But,
> he stands apart from other leaders in terms of his exceptional success
> for Singapore in growth, modernization, technology and since several
> years also in science (up to now only STEM including biotechnology). Lee
> is also apparently the only politician who has read and used the results
> of intelligence research in his politics. In speeches he has cited
> Thomas Bouchard and Richard Lynn (Chan & Chee, 1984), and he is the only
> statesman, who has seen that intelligence enhancement not only needs an
> improvement in the environment (like in educational policy) but also in
> demographic policies, because parents transfer cognitive ability to
> their children by creating a stimulating environment (especially by
> education and modeling) and by transmission of their genes."
>
> * * * * * *http://www.iratde.org/issues/1-2009/tde_issue_1-2009_03_rindermann_et...
>
> The impact of smart fractions, cognitive ability of politicians and
> average competence of peoples on social development
>
> Heiner Rindermann, Michael Sailer and James Thompson
>
> Abstract: Smart fraction theory supposes that gifted and talented
> persons are especially relevant for societal development. Using results
> for the 95th percentile from TIMSS 1995-2007, PISA 2000-2006 and PIRLS
> 2001-2006 we calculated an ability sum value (N=90 countries) for the
> upper level group (equivalent to a within country IQ-threshold of 125 or
> a student assessment score of 667) and compared its influence with the
> mean ability and the 5th percentile ability on wealth (GDP), patent
> rates, Nobel Prizes, numbers of scientists, political variables
> (government effectiveness, democracy, rule of law, political liberty),
> HIV, AIDS and homicide. Additionally, using information on school and
> professional education, we estimated the cognitive competence of
> political leaders in N=90 countries. Results of correlations, regression
> and path analyses generally show a larger impact of the smart fractions’
RichAsianKid
> HUn SEn of Cambodia controls all Khmer judges in Cambodia .
>
>
>
> Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore controls all Singaporeans judges
> in Singapore .
>
>
>
>
> HUn Sen = Lee Kuan Yew .
>
To carry this analogy further, Jews control America? (Recall the NAACP
presidents say?)
>
>
> n Dec 11, 7:42 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Read the following paper.
>>
>> Lots more to dissect (e.g. "The highest values for the smart fractions
>> are found in East Asia [1. Singapore IQ 127, 2. South Korea IQ 125, 3.
>> Japan IQ 124, 5. Taiwan IQ 123, 9. Hong Kong IQ 122]. A similar result
>> was found in psychometric (average) intelligence or in student
>> assessment studies [see Rindermann, 2007a]) but for the purposes of
>> these newsgroups I just wanted to quote this paragraph for interest:
>>
>> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
>> in our data set only as highest degree �university degree�, no doctorate
>> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
>> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
>> �Double Starred First Class Honours�. Our assessment procedure seems to
>> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
>> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
>> list and the second highest rank in average ability (IQ 105), but �only�
>> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
>> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place. And, that is
>> especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
>> government effectiveness. Singapore seems to have the best government in
>> the world. Lee Kuan Yew�s ability � indicated by his success � seems to
>> and path analyses generally show a larger impact of the smart fractions�
Wakalukong
On Dec 18, 10:26 am, "Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam"
> > could show a positive influence on the cognitive development of nations.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
prophet Muhammud the Child Fucker
are you denying the AIPAC controls the USA ?
Dec 19, 5:04 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam wrote:
>
> > HUn SEn of Cambodia controls all Khmer judges in Cambodia .
>
> > Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore controls all Singaporeans judges
> > in Singapore .
>
> > HUn Sen = Lee Kuan Yew .
>
> To carry this analogy further, Jews control America? (Recall the NAACP
> presidents say?)
>
>
>
> > n Dec 11, 7:42 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Read the following paper.
>
> >> Lots more to dissect (e.g. "The highest values for the smart fractions
> >> are found in East Asia [1. Singapore IQ 127, 2. South Korea IQ 125, 3.
> >> Japan IQ 124, 5. Taiwan IQ 123, 9. Hong Kong IQ 122]. A similar result
> >> was found in psychometric (average) intelligence or in student
> >> assessment studies [see Rindermann, 2007a]) but for the purposes of
> >> these newsgroups I just wanted to quote this paragraph for interest:
>
> >> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
> >> in our data set only as highest degree “university degree”, no doctorate
> >> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
> >> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
> >> “Double Starred First Class Honours”. Our assessment procedure seems to
> >> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
> >> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
> >> list and the second highest rank in average ability (IQ 105), but “only”
> >> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
> >> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place. And, that is
> >> especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
> >> government effectiveness. Singapore seems to have the best government in
> >> the world. Lee Kuan Yew’s ability – indicated by his success – seems to
> >> and path analyses generally show a larger impact of the smart fractions’
RichAsianKid
> Rich Ass Kid ,
>
> are you denying the AIPAC controls the USA ?
>
>
RAK is however still saying Asia especially NE Asia can
avoid one humongous downstream potential & political headache
without diversity around .. :)
>
> Dec 19, 5:04 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Vishnu , om Mangalam Mangalam wrote:
>>
>>> HUn SEn of Cambodia controls all Khmer judges in Cambodia .
>>> Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore controls all Singaporeans judges
>>> in Singapore .
>>> HUn Sen = Lee Kuan Yew .
>> To carry this analogy further, Jews control America? (Recall the NAACP
>> presidents say?)
>>
>>
>>
>>> n Dec 11, 7:42 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Read the following paper.
>>>> Lots more to dissect (e.g. "The highest values for the smart fractions
>>>> are found in East Asia [1. Singapore IQ 127, 2. South Korea IQ 125, 3.
>>>> Japan IQ 124, 5. Taiwan IQ 123, 9. Hong Kong IQ 122]. A similar result
>>>> was found in psychometric (average) intelligence or in student
>>>> assessment studies [see Rindermann, 2007a]) but for the purposes of
>>>> these newsgroups I just wanted to quote this paragraph for interest:
>>>> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
>>>> in our data set only as highest degree �university degree�, no doctorate
>>>> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
>>>> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
>>>> �Double Starred First Class Honours�. Our assessment procedure seems to
>>>> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
>>>> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
>>>> list and the second highest rank in average ability (IQ 105), but �only�
>>>> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
>>>> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place. And, that is
>>>> especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
>>>> government effectiveness. Singapore seems to have the best government in
>>>> the world. Lee Kuan Yew�s ability � indicated by his success � seems to
>>>> and path analyses generally show a larger impact of the smart fractions�
Alex
Learned men use statistics to argue their theory.
But the sign is there.
Lee Kuan Yew's wife is in bad shape. The longer she is like this, the
longer the punishment to her families.
Israel's Sharon is in coma. This is bad omen for Israel. This is a
form of punishment.
Later punishment will be more direct from Nature.
You think the 2 casinos will benefit Singapore? No. They are the bad
omen of Singapore.
Just mark my words and see what will happen.
In the worst stage, the PAP government might have to appoint me
Singapore's president.
On Dec 12, 11:42 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Read the following paper.
>
> Lots more to dissect (e.g. "The highest values for the smart fractions
> are found in East Asia [1. Singapore IQ 127, 2. South Korea IQ 125, 3.
> Japan IQ 124, 5. Taiwan IQ 123, 9. Hong Kong IQ 122]. A similar result
> was found in psychometric (average) intelligence or in student
> assessment studies [see Rindermann, 2007a]) but for the purposes of
> these newsgroups I just wanted to quote this paragraph for interest:
>
> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
> in our data set only as highest degree “university degree”, no doctorate
> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
> “Double Starred First Class Honours”. Our assessment procedure seems to
> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
> list and the second highest rank in average ability (IQ 105), but “only”
> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place. And, that is
> especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
> government effectiveness. Singapore seems to have the best government in
> the world. Lee Kuan Yew’s ability – indicated by his success – seems to
> be underestimated again by the solely use of formal education. Of
> course, Singapore was and still is no standard-bearer of liberty and
> democracy and Lee Kuan Yew has attracted criticism because of this. But,
> he stands apart from other leaders in terms of his exceptional success
> for Singapore in growth, modernization, technology and since several
> years also in science (up to now only STEM including biotechnology). Lee
> is also apparently the only politician who has read and used the results
> of intelligence research in his politics. In speeches he has cited
> Thomas Bouchard and Richard Lynn (Chan & Chee, 1984), and he is the only
> statesman, who has seen that intelligence enhancement not only needs an
> improvement in the environment (like in educational policy) but also in
> demographic policies, because parents transfer cognitive ability to
> their children by creating a stimulating environment (especially by
> education and modeling) and by transmission of their genes."
>
> * * * * * *http://www.iratde.org/issues/1-2009/tde_issue_1-2009_03_rindermann_et...
>
> The impact of smart fractions, cognitive ability of politicians and
> average competence of peoples on social development
>
> Heiner Rindermann, Michael Sailer and James Thompson
>
> Abstract: Smart fraction theory supposes that gifted and talented
> persons are especially relevant for societal development. Using results
> for the 95th percentile from TIMSS 1995-2007, PISA 2000-2006 and PIRLS
> 2001-2006 we calculated an ability sum value (N=90 countries) for the
> upper level group (equivalent to a within country IQ-threshold of 125 or
> a student assessment score of 667) and compared its influence with the
> mean ability and the 5th percentile ability on wealth (GDP), patent
> rates, Nobel Prizes, numbers of scientists, political variables
> (government effectiveness, democracy, rule of law, political liberty),
> HIV, AIDS and homicide. Additionally, using information on school and
> professional education, we estimated the cognitive competence of
> political leaders in N=90 countries. Results of correlations, regression
> and path analyses generally show a larger impact of the smart fractions’
baldeagle
> Read the following paper.
>
> Lots more to dissect
>
> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
> in our data set only as highest degree “university degree”, no doctorate
> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
> “Double Starred First Class Honours”. Our assessment procedure seems to
> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
> list and the second highest rank in average ability (IQ 105), but “only”
> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place.
This is true.
> ...especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
> government effectiveness.
This is true.
> Singapore seems to have the best government in the world.
This is debatable.
>Lee Kuan Yew’s ability – indicated by his success – seems to
> be underestimated again by the solely use of formal education. Of
> course, Singapore was and still is no standard-bearer of liberty and
> democracy and Lee Kuan Yew has attracted criticism because of this.
This is true...
> But, he stands apart from other leaders in terms of his exceptional
> success for Singapore in growth, modernization, technology and
> since several years also in science (up to now only STEM including
> biotechnology).
This is true.
The article failed to note his flawed policies...creating elitism in
Singapore,
treating foreigners better than Singaporean....using government money
and resources, to win election unfairly....
RichAsianKid
But this paper is from a new organization, http://iratde.org/, or
International Research Association for Talent Development and Excellence.
For what it's worth, there is a huge Chinese presence (see the board
here, http://iratde.org/about/executive-committee , as well as the
journal's editoral board here: http://iratde.org/journal/board ).
The inaugural paper (below) reveals, once again, how different countries
have different (IQ) 'smart fractions' defined in this situation as 95%+
percentile. That is, it looks at the right tail rather than the averages
which we know differ significantly around the globe.
It is nice to see corroborating and confirming data from a different
approach.
So let America obsess about "No Child Left Behind!" and affirmative
action, and let the rest of the world (this being an international
journal) seek out talent, creativity, excellence, and innovation.
RichAsianKid
> On Dec 12, 11:42 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Read the following paper.
>>
>> Lots more to dissect
>>
>> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
>> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
>> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
>> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
>> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
>> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
>> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place.
>
> This is true.
>
>> ...especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
>> government effectiveness.
>
> This is true.
>
>> Singapore seems to have the best government in the world.
>
> This is debatable.
>
>> be underestimated again by the solely use of formal education. Of
>> course, Singapore was and still is no standard-bearer of liberty and
>> democracy and Lee Kuan Yew has attracted criticism because of this.
>
> This is true...
>
>> But, he stands apart from other leaders in terms of his exceptional
>> success for Singapore in growth, modernization, technology and
>> since several years also in science (up to now only STEM including
>> biotechnology).
>
> This is true.
>
> The article failed to note his flawed policies...creating elitism in
> Singapore,
> treating foreigners better than Singaporean....using government money
> and resources, to win election unfairly....
>
My take on Singapore in reference to democracy, elections, policies etc,
as previously posted, is still this:
"The avuncular Lee Kwan Yew may not have gotten everything right, and
Singapore is in some ways probably most beautiful and best appreciated
from afar.
"My gut feeling though is that history will likely judge him by what he
did, rather than what he didn't do."
Or could have done....
That is, there is always a price to pay. But in Singapore's case, all
things considered, it may be a price worth paying for.
baldeagle
> baldeagle wrote:
> > On Dec 12, 11:42 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Read the following paper.
>
> >> Lots more to dissect
>
> >> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
> >> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
> >> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
> >> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
> >> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
> >> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
> >> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place.
>
> > This is true.
>
> >> ...especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
> >> government effectiveness.
>
> > This is true.
>
> >> Singapore seems to have the best government in the world.
>
> > This is debatable.
>
> >> be underestimated again by the solely use of formal education. Of
> >> course, Singapore was and still is no standard-bearer of liberty and
> >> democracy and Lee Kuan Yew has attracted criticism because of this.
>
> > This is true...
>
> >> But, he stands apart from other leaders in terms of his exceptional
> >> success for Singapore in growth, modernization, technology and
> >> since several years also in science (up to now only STEM including
> >> biotechnology).
>
> > This is true.
>
> > The article failed to note his flawed policies...creating elitism in
> > Singapore,
> > treating foreigners better than Singaporean....using government money
> > and resources, to win election unfairly....
>
> My take on Singapore in reference to democracy, elections, policies etc,
> as previously posted, is still this:
>
> "The avuncular Lee Kwan Yew may not have gotten everything right, and
> Singapore is in some ways probably most beautiful and best appreciated
> from afar.
>
> "My gut feeling though is that history will likely judge him by what he
> did, rather than what he didn't do."
>
> Or could have done....
>
> That is, there is always a price to pay. But in Singapore's case, all
> things considered, it may be a price worth paying for.
Agreed...to your take on LKY's form of governance, the lack
of democratic ways and human rights in Singapore.
Not many appreciate how democracy had evolved under
LKY...into a new form of governance.
From as early as 1959, when he won self government, he
started by adopting the British model,. ..
Then, seeing how the communist managed to win over the
masses... the Chinese educated in schools, university and
trade unions,...he changed it to socialist democracy, (more
socialist than democratic) by creating jobs and decent homes
for every Singaporean...In this way he crushed Communism. Also
he noted democracy failed almost all newly independent
countries, failed to uplift the lives of the people...from India
to nations in Africa.
Since 70s, he introduced a system of selecting the
leaders, replacing the democratic way.
Intelligent, honest and able Singaporeans were chosen
and appointed to junior leadership positions... to test them
repeatedly.
If they proved to be 'able men', they were promoted to more
senior positions and the best one was then appointed the
Prime Minister. (He retained power and ruled from behind)
The whole process take at least 10 to 15 years. (in Singapore
Obama, untried and unproven, has no chance of becoming
the top dog)
TengXiaoPing was very impressed with this system and
had adopted it for China.
This system, 'rule by proven leaders' has worked well for
over 25 years in both Singapore and China. As it works
better than democracy, there is no reason whatever for
Singapore to revert back to the flawed system of democracy.
Jesus Christ , a long - term fucker of the Prostitute St . Mary 's cunt hole , is an Unique Son of GOD
ASEAN is totally Corrupted .
Let 's hope the Thai - Khmer biorder dispute will break up
ASEAN which is an outdated association .
Bald Eagle , is the Spratly a Vietnamese territory or a
Chinese territory ?
> Singapore to revert back to the flawed system of democracy.- Hide quoted text -
Jesus Christ , a long - term fucker of the Prostitute St . Mary 's cunt hole , is an Unique Son of GOD
foreigners better than the Chinese inside China .
baldeagle
Prostitute St . Mary 's cunt hole , is an Unique Son of GOD"
<veak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> DEMOCRACY is an EVIL POWER in ASEAN .
>
True democracy do not really exist in ASEAN.
Not in Malaysia, not in Thailand, not in the Philippines,
not in Indonesia, not in Singapore and the rest of the
members.
Yes. Democracy is no good.... it is a system the West used
to enslave people in Asia.
What is so good to be a slave of the West ?
baldeagle
Look at Japan, a slave of the USA since its defeat at WWII.
US troops in Okinawa rape Japanese virgins regularly..
frequently drunk Americans beat up Japanese like slaves...and
Japan has to keep quiet about such ugly incidents and had to
smiles in the presence of US troops.
baldeagle
Read Asia Times Online about rape cases committed by US troops
based in Japan:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/JC05Dh01.html
Quotes:
"SPEAKING FREELY
The 'rape' of Okinawa
By Chalmers Johnson
It all seemed deadly familiar: an adult, 38-year-old US Marine
sergeant accused by the Okinawan police of sexually violating a 14-
year-old Okinawan schoolgirl. He claims he did not actually rape her
but only forcibly kissed her, as if knocking down an innocent child
and slobbering all over her face is OK if you're a representative of
the American military forces. The accused marine has now been released
because the girl has refused to press charges - perhaps because he is
innocent as he claimed or perhaps because she can't face the ignominy
of appearing in court.
Let us briefly recall some of the other incidents since the notorious
1995 kidnapping, beating and gang rape of a 12-year-old girl by two
marines and a sailor in Kin village, Okinawa. The convicted assailants
in that outrage were Marine Private First Class Roderico Harp, Marine
Private First Class Kendrick Ledet and Seaman Marcus Gill. Other
incidents of bodily harm, intimidation and death continue in Okinawa
on an almost daily basis, including hit-and-run collisions between
American troops and Okinawans on foot or on auto bikes, robberies and
assaults, bar brawls and drunken and disorderly conduct.
On June 29, 2001, a 24-year-old air force staff sergeant, Timothy
Woodland, was arrested for publicly raping a 20-year-old Okinawan
woman on the hood of a car.
On November 2, 2002, Okinawan authorities took into custody Marine
Major Michael J Brown, 41 years old, for sexually assaulting a
Filipina barmaid outside the Camp Courtney officer's club.
On May 25, 2003, Marine Military Police turned over to Japanese police
a 21-year-old lance corporal, Jose Torres, for breaking a 19-year-old
woman's nose and raping her, once again in Kin village.
In early July 2005, a drunken air force staff sergeant molested a 10-
year-old Okinawan girl on her way to Sunday school. He at first
claimed to be innocent, but then police found a photo of the girl's
nude torso on his cell phone.
After each of these incidents and innumerable others that make up the
daily police blotter of Japan's most southerly prefecture, the
commander of US forces in Okinawa, a Marine Corps lieutenant general,
and the American ambassador in Tokyo, make public and abject apologies
for the behavior of US troops.
Occasionally the remorse goes up to the Pacific commander-in-chief or,
in the most recent case, to the secretary of state. On February 27,
Condoleezza Rice said, "Our concern is for the girl and her family. We
really, really deeply regret it." The various officers responsible for
the discipline of US troops in Japan invariably promise to tighten
supervision over them, who currently number 92,491, including civilian
employees and dependents. But nothing ever changes. Why?
Because the Japanese government speaks with a forked tongue. For the
sake of the Okinawans forced to live cheek-by-jowl with 37 US military
bases on their small island, Tokyo condemns the behavior of the
Americans. Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda called the recent assault
"unforgivable" and demanded tighter military discipline. But that is
as far as it goes.
The Japanese government has never even discussed why a large standing
army of Americans is garrisoned on Japanese territory, some 63 years
after the end of World War II. ......."
Japan, is not a democracy, it is a slave nation ..a true slave of the
USA.
RichAsianKid
> On Dec 21, 5:32 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> baldeagle wrote:
>>> On Dec 12, 11:42 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Read the following paper.
>>>> Lots more to dissect
>>>> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
>>>> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
>>>> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
>>>> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
>>>> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
>>>> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
>>>> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place.
>>> This is true.
>>>> ...especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
>>>> government effectiveness.
>>> This is true.
>>>> Singapore seems to have the best government in the world.
>>> This is debatable.
The above illustrates yet another strength of LKY: a kind of ruthless
outcome-oriented pragmatism versus the entrenched dogmatic ideological
thinking which the modern West in general and America in particular
continues to indulge in and succumb to.
Remember what the 19th century William James once famously quipped?
Ideas don't work because they are true; rather they are true because
they work.
And on the subject of democracy: this whole idea of democracy as some
desirable if not superior system is merely ideological thinking. And it
is inherently antithetical to the idea of meritocracy which by
definition has to be elitist to some degree. Democracy is merely some
fancy name for legitimatized mobocracy, mob rule, and little more. And
this whole idea that the vote of some illiterate retarded IQ 70
inner-city guy who can't even read their own voting papers should be
accorded the same weight as a IQ 130 professor's or neurosurgeon's makes
no practical sense to me whatsoever.
baldeagle
> baldeagle wrote:
> > On Dec 21, 5:32 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> baldeagle wrote:
> >>> On Dec 12, 11:42 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Read the following paper.
> >>>> Lots more to dissect
> >>>> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
> >>>> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
> >>>> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
> >>>> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
> >>>> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
> >>>> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
> >>>> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place.
> >>> This is true.
> >>>> ...especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
> >>>> government effectiveness.
> >>> This is true.
> >>>> Singapore seems to have the best government in the world.
> >>> This is debatable.
From the perspective of an American, the Chinese way is
very akin to 'Pragmatism', a concept crystallized by William
James. It is not.
The political succession idea, formulated by LKY go
beyond pragmatism. He took into account, the kind of
person who make good leaders...To him, a good leader
must be honest (not corrupt), intelligent (have high IQ, to
understand the challenges of a nations, to understand the
complex and conflicting demands...to find and implement
good options...) and man of exceptional ability (able to always
get things done, able to solvedifficult problems...able to
take the lead and be successful always..and yes.. must
be able to win election).
To him, a leader must also prove himself in leadership
positions, repeatedly. In short a battle harden leader...harden
by the tests of fire in varied real life situations.
Using himself as a model, he chose potential leaders from
all works of life in Singapore...in business, grass root
organisations, the army, the trade union, successful engineers,
lawyers and doctors....and put them through the mills. Hundreds
failed to make the grade....those who managed to prove them-
selves as worthy are appointed as junior ministers...then ministers,
a step from the top dog.
His method of selecting leaders ..is not democratic, not leaders
with only star quality (able to win popular votes)... leaders
chosen by his method are men of great intelligence and ability,
the most important quality in a leader.
People like to misread his method as some form of Western
political idea..pragmatism etc. It is western egotism.
LKY's method... is uniquely Asia...only Asians allow their
currentleader to choose their future leaders...and accept the
chosen leaders as the best man available.
Westerners will find this a little difficult to stomach.
Penang
Regarding what LKY did, do you see how the Singaporean Chinese (most
of them, anyway) hate LKY so much?
Do you know why?
Because they have lost that "edge" we Chinese from Malaysia still
have.
We don't buy bullshit from nobody, including the bullshit from the
West. Bullshit like "democracy".
See what happened in Taiwan?
They bought that "Democracy" bullshit lock stock and barrel, and what
happens?
That democracy thing drags down Taiwan rather than lifts it up.
LKY knows this. He knows this because he was from an era where Chinese
have that "edge".
Unfortunately too many Chinese in Singapore are too damn pampered to
understand that the world don't live on bullshit.
baldeagle
>
> Regarding what LKY did, do you see how the Singaporean Chinese (most
> of them, anyway) hate LKY so much?
>
I am not sure if Singaporean Chinese hated LKY.
If they hated him, they would not have voted
for him and his party..again and again, for the
last 50 years.
> We don't buy bullshit from nobody, including the bullshit from the
> West. Bullshit like "democracy".
>
Yes. Malaysian Chinese do not buy the spins from westerners..
spins about democracy, spins about human rights....
I believe, most Singaporeans don't buy the bullshit also...
> They bought that "Democracy" bullshit lock stock and barrel, and what
> happens?
>
> That democracy thing drags down Taiwan ...
Singaporeans are not Taiwanese.
>
> LKY knows this. He knows this because he was from an era where Chinese
> have that "edge".
>
> Unfortunately too many Chinese in Singapore are too damn pampered to
> understand that the world don't live on bullshit.
Singaporeans now condemn LKY because ...LKY has changed..
from a Singaporean workers' hero, he changed to a hero for foreigner
workers,..changed to a hero to the elite class.
Singaporeans now feel that LKY treat them as rejected slaves,
unwanted
and unrewarded.
The criticism of LKY is largely deserved.
Penang
The last paragraph.
Singaporeans are turning against LKY not because LKY has changed. No.
It's the Singaporeans themselves have changed.
They have pampered --- or rather, LKY have pampered the Singaporeans
too much, so much so that the Singaporeans start having this
"invincible" feeling that they can do no wrong, that they are very
smart, that they are better than everybody else.
And in their smugness, they decline.
LKY saw that, and know that if he were to rely solely on the
Singaporeans (and I mean, those born there, pampered there), Singapore
will decline, and will be utterly destroyed.
Do not EVER forget, Singapore is that tiny red dot in the wide green
ocean.
That green ocean, the Malays, always want to swallow up Singapore.
They are waiting.
And if Singapore decline, the Malays will swallow up Singapore.
This is what LKY won't want to see, and this is why LKY start to turn
towards those "Elite immigrants", for those immigrants have the same
"edge" as the Singaporeans, the same alertness that will keep
Singapore afloats.
Too bad the Singaporeans don't see what is happening.
In their myopic worldview, LKY has turned against them, but without
LKY, the land they live on will be long gone !
Too bad for LKY too ! He has struggled all his life for the
Singaporeans but ended up having the Singaporeans cursing him.
baldeagle
Yes. bad for LKY.....for implementing policies against the interests
of Singapore older workers.
He changed the laws ..to allow employers to sack older Singaporean
workers (who draw high salary) and to replace them with foreigner
workers. Result: employers earn millions more in profit...more
Singaporeans become jobless.
The CEOs and their employers are now the elites in Singapore...
LKY is their hero. Singaporeans hated him because of this.
This is just one example...there are many more.
Penang
1. Why is the Singaporeans so greedy?
2. Why old workers, with their declining productivity, getting high
salaries?
3. Is it wrong for business to find cheaper and more productive
workers?
It all boils down to the pampered Singaporeans. They think just
because they are Singaporeans they deserve better.
No.
In this world, nobody owes anybody anything.
Business don't owe their older workers anything.
Nor the workers owe their bosses anything.
It is a trade.
On the workers' side:
I work for you, I sacrifice part of my limited life span for you. You
pay me.
And if you aren't paying me enough, I quit.
On the employers' side:
I pay you, so you sacrifice part of your limited life span working for
me.
If you don't work hard, or if your pay is too high, or if you are no
longer competitive and/or productive, then off you go.
You think Singaporeans, just because of they are Singaporeans, can get
away from this very basic trade?
Jesus Christ , a long - term fucker of the Prostitute St . Mary 's cunt hole , is an Unique Son of GOD
Indonesian president BangBang Yoko-Ono is as Corrupted as
Suharto .
Indonesian president used state money to
save Century Bank which belongs to
his friend cronies .
UMNO in Malaysia is corrupted ,
Lee Kuan Yew family in Singapore
is corrupted in their controlling all Singapore' s judges ,
just like Hun Sen in Cambodia .,
Than Schwee in Myanmar is corrupted .
Thaksin and Abhi Shit are corrupted .
Arry-Ono the Filipino dwarf is corrupted ,
Vietnamese Communist Party is corrupted
Lao Communist party is corrupted.
Prince Geffery is Corrupted .
Penang
You look utterly foolish in telling people that Sharia laws are
Asians.
Sharia laws originated from the Middle East, not Asia. The people
living there are a mix of black Africans and White Semites.
You have written a lot of foolish postings, and this one tops them
all !!
On Dec 22, 12:53 pm, Demorising <demoris...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 22, 6:59 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 21, 11:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > And
>
> > > this whole idea that the vote of some illiterate retarded IQ 70
> > > inner-city guy who can't even read their own voting papers should be
> > > accorded the same weight as a IQ 130 professor's or neurosurgeon's makes
> > > no practical sense to me whatsoever.
>
> > Yes. Democracy is a flawed concept, a political philosophy from
> > ancient Athens, a system of governance which failed in ancient
> > Athens and it is failing in the USA.
>
> > For over a century, Westerners have not developed or tried new
> > political philosophy, not since Karl Marx, or tried a new system
> > of governance.
> > The USA stuck on to its failing democratic governance, a flawed
> > ideology..
> > The USA, using democracy as a tool, tried to gain control and
> > be the ruler (by proxy) of other countries. They USA failed to
> > sell democracy to Singapore or China.
>
> > LKY learned the flaws in democracy (the British parliamentary
> > system) very quickly..he made changes to it and has managed
> > to evolve a new system of governance.
> > The good results in Singapore proved that he was right to ditch
> > democracy.
> > Teng Xiao Ping did the same thing, he ditched communism (another
> > western political ideology) and adopted with the system developed
> > by LKY with modification.
>
> > Until now, westerners and their media refused to acknowledge
> > that Singapore and China have an Asian system of government,
> > a better system of governance, ...developed by Asian, for Asian
> > societies. It works better than those failing political ideology
> > from the West....
> > Now, other countries with failing democracy are interested in the
> > Singapore system of governance.
>
> Chinese law and government is more similar to Sharia law and Islamic
> governments than it is to Western government. Sharia law and Islamic
> governments are Asian.
>
> -------
>
> China worries about unrest
>
> http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_469474.html
>
> SOCIAL unrest, driven by abuses of power and a growing wealth gap, is
> on the increase in China, according to one of the country's leading
> think tanks.
>
> China's rapid economic rise in recent years has come at a cost, and
> protests by those left behind or abused by newly rich officials have
> been on the increase.
>
> Officials from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences said this week,
> when releasing a report on the problem, that China's leaders have to
> deal with this growing resentment against power abuses. CASS is
> connected to the government and is China's top think tank on social
> issues. Chen Guangjin, a co-author of the report said environmental
> issues are among trends connected with protests, with growing
> unhappiness over the pollution that has come with China's economic
> expansion.
>
> ...
Demorising
> You don't understand _ANYTHING_ about Islam.
>
> You look utterly foolish in telling people that Sharia laws are
> Asians.
>
> Sharia laws originated from the Middle East, not Asia.
What continent is middle east part of?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_continent_is_middle_east_part_of
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071017090608AAZQnfZ
Is Chinese law more like Sharia law or is it more like Western law?
ltlee1
> baldeagle wrote:
> > On Dec 21, 5:32 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> baldeagle wrote:
> >>> On Dec 12, 11:42 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Read the following paper.
> >>>> Lots more to dissect
> >>>> "One remark on Singapore: Its long-term Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew has
> >>>> or an additional scientific degree. But he has studied at London School
> >>>> of Economics and in Cambridge and finished his studies with exceptional
> >>>> underestimate his cognitive ability level. Furthermore, Singapore has
> >>>> reached the highest rank in the smart fraction ability (IQ 127) in our
> >>>> the 14th rank in the lower non-smart fraction ability ranking (IQ 79).
> >>>> In patents (1991-2007) Singapore has the first place.
> >>> This is true.
> >>>> ...especially remarkable, Singapore has reached the first place in
> >>>> government effectiveness.
> >>> This is true.
> >>>> Singapore seems to have the best government in the world.
> >>> This is debatable.
In the beginning, America democracy did not entail giving people the
same
weight. One has to earn his rights to vote. Frequently, the test was
the test
of property.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.china/msg/a56eca9852c312fb?hl=en
Jesus Christ , a long - term fucker of the Prostitute St . Mary 's cunt hole , is an Unique Son of GOD
only land owners have the righ to vote .
> http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.china/msg/a56eca9852c312...
RichAsianKid
Sadly RAK has to agree with a lot here and says: "A rich man's son
cannot be a rich man's father"....
Ouch.
Which is why dynasties rise & fall, and why Western liberalism,
and utopianism, equality, egalitarianism, and universalism etc etc will
merely turn out to be a historical interlude, albeit an interesting one.
One way or another we're hierarchical, not equal.
No matter how idealistic, you never never really quite ultimately
conquer human nature.
Penang
If you want to know how pathetic those pampered Singaporeans have
become, I'll give you a link :
http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/12/25/singapore-is-more-like-zimbabwe-than-malaysia-ever-is/
Singaporeans are saying Singapore is as bad as Zimbabwe !
And the irony is, they don't know shit about anything and yet they are
coming on as though they know all.
I pity LKY, and I fully understand why LKY now is favoring
"Foreigners" instead of the born and bred Singaporeans that are beyond
pathetic !
ltl...@hotmail.com
>
> only land owners have the righ to vote .
Land owners would be stake holders first class. Unlike other asset
class, land cannot be moved to other country.
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Penang
What's your comment on the following link:
http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/12/25/singapore-is-more-like-zimbabwe-than-malaysia-ever-is/
Is Singapore as bad as Zimbabwe?
Agree or not agree? Or partially agree?
On Dec 27, 12:18 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 10:36 pm, Demorising <demoris...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Apparently you believe Chinese law and government is more
> > similar to Western law
>
> You talk nonsense. You are wrong, you don't know what I
> believe. This discussion is NOT about what I believe or
> what I don't believe.
>
> It s about the system of governance in China and the system
> of governance in the USA.
>
> China has adopted a NEW system, rejecting the communist
> system...and China has refused to adopt the flawed US
> system of democracy. (for detail of the new system, read
> my previous post)
>
> Under the new system, adopted by Teng XiaoPing in the 70s,
> China has enjoyed peace and prosperity, has uplifted the
> lives of hundreds of millions of poor peasant....has become
> an economic world power.
> Democracy is flawed because it failed to uplift the lives of
> the poor in developing countries...in Pakistan, in Indian,
> in Bangladesh, in Indonesia, in most countries in Africa.
> It is flawed also because it led to the financial melt down
> in the USA which caused untold hardship to the poor countries
> around the world.