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The man who stopped the tanks..... A picture, telling the truth behind TAM.

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baldeagle

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Jun 3, 2009, 10:46:51 PM6/3/09
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The man who stopped the tanks.. A powerful image, captured by APS
photograher, Jeff Widener from the top of Beijing Hotel, located next
to TAM.

The picture represent..."A deadly confrontation"...between the
fearless students and PLA. The students wanting a better China vs the
PLA protecting China(from US control by proxy..and the destruction of
China as a nation). Like the picture of the half full glass....it
represent different things to different people.

To the Western media, it represents the courage of the Chinese
students, prepared to face death to fight for their ideals
(democracy). To the Chinese, it represents the enormous restraints
shown by the PLA...the tanks could easily turn him into meat sauce.

Why then, it turned into an ugly battle later ?

According BBC this morning, the battle was captured by APS Widener in
pictures..from the start to finish, from a room at the top of Beijing
hotel.
APS refused to release the pictures taken by Widener. But sources who
have seen the pictures said: "The students charged forwards, the first
shots were fired from the crowd that injured(or killed) PLA
soldiers..the PLA returned fire...and hell broke loose."

(Apparently, the students and provocateurs had earlier taken a large
quantity of sub machine guns from an army truck which they had
commandeered. With this, the leaders used to provoke the PLA into
shooting into the crowd. The same modus operanti was used in the
Jakarta demonstration. )

supe...@gmail.com

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Jun 3, 2009, 11:32:35 PM6/3/09
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What to do, if there is no news ... then create the news and make big
bucks.

rst0wxyz

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Jun 3, 2009, 11:33:40 PM6/3/09
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On Jun 3, 7:46 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> The man who stopped the tanks..   A powerful image, captured  by APS
> photograher, Jeff Widener from the top of Beijing Hotel, located next
> to TAM.
>
> The picture represent..."A deadly confrontation"

Ohh!!! come on, baldeagle!!! There was no confrontation!!!! If the
tank commander wanted to, he could have rolled over that man easily,
and without guilt. By not doing so, he may have suffered consequences
unknown to the rest of the world.

Today, people are wondering what and where is that man who had stopped
the tank column. Has anybody wondered what has happened to that tank
commander? He may well have been in prison for NOT doing his job!!!

>...between the
> fearless students and PLA. The students wanting a better China vs the

The Chinese people never had it better for the last 5 or 6 thousand
years. Like I have said many times, China's worst enemy is the
Chinese people themselves.

abia...@my-deja.com

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Jun 4, 2009, 12:48:30 AM6/4/09
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Rusty Old Fool, you are talking stupid again! Chinese had the worst
time under your "Great Man" Mao's ruling. Chinese had much better time
under eg, Tang Tai Zong's ruling. In early North Sung, China was the
richest nation in the world, And now China is still one of poorest
nations in the world although it has been greatly improved from your
"Great Man" (actually a failed man" Mao's era.

Well, I don't think you understand these, you know little about
Chinese history, culture, politics. Why don't you go back to your
photo albums to collect more Thai girl's photos. That's all you can
do. Haha!

> > Jakarta demonstration. )- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Tienxia

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Jun 4, 2009, 12:59:47 AM6/4/09
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On Jun 3, 11:48 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

abia...@my-deja.com

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Jun 4, 2009, 1:18:51 AM6/4/09
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Hey psycho Tienxia (Xangdi), you faked several abianchen posts
yesterday, what happened? No one even Rusty Old Fool has lost
interest, right? Time to get new tricks, old dog! Haha!


On Jun 4, 12:59 am, Tienxia <xan...@email.com> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.taiwan/msg/7d33c7741c68371...

baldeagle

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Jun 4, 2009, 1:21:30 AM6/4/09
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On Jun 4, 11:33 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 7:46 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
> > The man who stopped the tanks..   A powerful image, captured  by APS
> > photograher, Jeff Widener from the top of Beijing Hotel, located next
> > to TAM.
>
> > The picture represent..."A deadly confrontation"
>
> Ohh!!! come on, baldeagle!!!  There was no confrontation!!!!  If the
> tank commander wanted to, he could have rolled over that man easily,
> and without guilt.  By not doing so, he may have suffered consequences
> unknown to the rest of the world.

The subject of the picture, by itself, is that of a lone civilian,
standing in front of a column of on coming tanks. You can see
NO confrontation.

Look deeper, you'll see a graphic representation of the
encounter of two social forces ....a force for change(the
student) vs a force for peace and stability (PLA/tanks).

Look deeper, you can also see...the challenge by forces
of democracy....vs the restraint of the tank commander.

Look still deeper...you can see the hidden hands of
US power at the throat of China (in the throes of power
struggle between the leaders.)

Tienxia

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Jun 4, 2009, 2:03:38 AM6/4/09
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"Tricks"? What an appropriate word you have chosen, because that just
sums up your whole life - turning tricks, Thai whore Meichi.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.taiwan/msg/7d33c7741c68371f?hl=en


On Jun 4, 12:18 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

abia...@my-deja.com

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Jun 4, 2009, 2:14:09 AM6/4/09
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Hey psycho Tienxia (Xangdi), what happen to your fake abianchen posts
from yesterday? No one is intersted, right? Even Rusty Old Fool has no
interest to play along anymore. Time for new tricks, old dog! Haha!

*** Who's poster "Tienxia" (aka Xangdi, Tienshen) and why is he
harassing poster "abianchen", a Chinese guy from Taiwan? ***

Initially, Tienxia (Xangdi) posted as "Chairman Mao", he also used
another alias to pretend as a black guy to fan racial hatred against
other black people but got caught by poster "abianchen", so his alias
"Chairman Mao" vanished. Later he signed up as "Xangdi" (also many
other aliases,e.g., Tienxia, Tienshen) to retaliate against
"abianchen" with all sorts of silly lies, e.g., using a Thai girl
Meichi's photos to flame abianchen. His retaliation has been going
over a year and seems no end. He also faked abianchen account as well
as others' accounts for revenge.

Xangdi = Tienshen = Tienxia = Chairman Mao Says = ... = fake Moshki =
fake abianchen = fake Dr. Ira... -> actually just one mentally ill
troll,像一個變態的神經病人, 瘋人院里爬出來的


On Jun 4, 2:03 am, Tienxia <xan...@email.com> wrote:
> "Tricks"? What an appropriate word you have chosen, because that just
> sums up your whole life - turning tricks, Thai whore Meichi.
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.taiwan/msg/7d33c7741c68371...

Tienxia

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Jun 4, 2009, 5:08:20 AM6/4/09
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rst0wxyz

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Jun 4, 2009, 5:26:40 AM6/4/09
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On Jun 3, 10:21 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 11:33 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 3, 7:46 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
> > > The man who stopped the tanks..   A powerful image, captured  by APS
> > > photograher, Jeff Widener from the top of Beijing Hotel, located next
> > > to TAM.
>
> > > The picture represent..."A deadly confrontation"
>
> > Ohh!!! come on, baldeagle!!!  There was no confrontation!!!!  If the
> > tank commander wanted to, he could have rolled over that man easily,
> > and without guilt.  By not doing so, he may have suffered consequences
> > unknown to the rest of the world.
>
> The subject of the picture, by itself, is that of a lone civilian,
> standing in front of a column of on coming tanks. You can see
> NO confrontation.

I see no confrontation, but compassion by the tank commander for human
life. There can not be confrontation by one human being against the
mighty power of a tank.

>
> Look deeper, you'll see a graphic representation of the
> encounter of two social forces ....a force for change(the
> student)  vs a force for peace and stability (PLA/tanks).

I still don't see confrontation. I see foreign agents manipulating
the Chinese students to their advantages. This is one of the reasons
why I am against elections in China. Chinese, by their Confucius
teaching, tend to follow. The CIA had a field day, the best ever in
China, created a national tragedy and continued to play on it. And
you guys continue to play the American/CIA tragedy game against China.

>
> Look deeper, you can also see...the challenge by forces
> of democracy....vs the restraint of the tank commander.

I see fools following the leads played out by the CIA.

>
> Look still deeper...you can see the hidden hands of
> US power at the throat of  China (in the throes of power
> struggle between the leaders.)

Like I said, I see fools following the lead of the CIA.


baldeagle

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Jun 4, 2009, 9:08:33 AM6/4/09
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The picture of a lone individual standing in the way
of PLA tanks...will mean different things to different
people. Some see only the man and the tanks...other
see more ... it is like a piece of modern art. No every
one see the same thing...in the same canvas.

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