stunning admissions of Holocaust fakery from a mainstream academic
thedarkman
to download the main publication in one file: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
Sara Salzman
<841d627b-511d-4885...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
thedarkman <A_B...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Mr. Baron! Out of jail again? Back from the circle jerk in Iran?
--
"I don't know" can be a very bad answer when it is disingenuous.
You can't answer "I don't know if that happened" about the Holocaust.
- Penn Jillette, 7/3/08
B.H. Cramer
"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> In article
> <841d627b-511d-4885...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> thedarkman <A_B...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> check out: http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>>
>> to download the main publication in one file:
>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>
> Mr. Baron! Out of jail again? Back from the circle jerk in Iran?
Why do you descend to the gutter, salzman? Why do you shoot the messenger
and ignore the message? And why do you only screech about authors who are
critical of yid malfeasance? Why haven't you come out and condemned AIPAC
for their criminal activities?
B.H. Cramer
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> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:15:48 -0700 (PDT), thedarkman
> <A_B...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>check out: http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>
>
This, from the wanker who attaches the moronic sig line below to its
messages.
Pot, meet kettle.
>
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Ian Parker
> check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>
> to download the main publication in one file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
Reference?
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
You know antirelativity has a veneer of antisemitism.
Why do we continue to give "La Reta" house room? Why are there
continuous postings in sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity.
Hanson seems to be admitting that the CIA is behind anti relativity.
The dead cannot be brought back to life, but I think families who have
lost loved ones in the Holocaust deserve some degree of closure + of
course the assurance that such a thing can never happen again.
Unfortunately it can. Iraq has been ethically cleansed. Refugees are
wandering across the Middle East. 1.3 million in Syria a million in
Jordan.
We should be asking ourseves the question "How can we build a world in
which people are judged by their contributions and not by their
religion or ethic origins?" Will people please address this question.
An answer is absolutely vital.
We all share some sort of responsibility. Physicists can exercise that
responsibility by exposing these people, exposing the hidden
motivations. Exposing La Reta foor what it is.
I say expose these people. In Germany and Austria you can be put n
jail. I do not agree with that. No martyrdom, they don't deserve it.
- Ian Parker
Mike Jr.
> On 28 Aug, 23:15, thedarkman <A_Ba...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>
> > to download the main publication in one file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>
> Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
> Reference?
>
> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
>
> You know antirelativity has a veneer of antisemitism.
>
> Why do we continue to give "La Reta" house room? Why are there
> continuous postings in sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity.
>
>
> Hanson seems to be admitting that the CIA is behind anti relativity.
>
> The dead cannot be brought back to life, but I think families who have
> lost loved ones in the Holocaust deserve some degree of closure + of
> course the assurance that such a thing can never happen again.
> Unfortunately it can. Iraq has been ethically cleansed. Refugees are
> wandering across the Middle East. 1.3 million in Syria a million in
> Jordan.
>
> We should be asking ourseves the question "How can we build a world in
> which people are judged by their contributions and not by their
> religion or ethic origins?" Will people please address this question.
> An answer is absolutely vital.
>
> We all share some sort of responsibility. Physicists can exercise that
> responsibility by exposing these people, exposing the hidden
> motivations. Exposing La Reta foor what it is.
>
> I say expose these people. In Germany and Austria you can be put n
> jail. I do not agree with that. No martyrdom, they don't deserve it.
>
> - Ian Parker
When I was in college, a small group of self-proclaimed maoist opened
a vegetarian food stand in the student union. I am sure that mommy
and daddy were footing the bill as opposed to them working their
summers in rice paddies. They were funded as a club. I asked a high
school friend who was active in the student government why they were
funded as a club. He replied, "Are they a threat? Are they seriously
going to influence a large numbers of people? They would welcome a
loss of funding because it would give them a platform for their
propaganda."
These antirelativity propagandist are no threat. I say propagandist
because they don't believe their own bile. They are trying to tell
the big lie. Simply counter their lies with the truth. The truth
always wins when people are brave enough to speak it.
BTW, I have them all in my kill file. :-)
--Mike Jr
Pentcho Valev
Stachel:
http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=317&Itemid=81&lecture_id=3576
John Stachel: "Einstein discussed the other side of the particle-field
dualism - get rid of fields and just have particles."
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."
John Stachel's comment: "If I go down, everything goes down, ha ha,
hm, ha ha ha."
Pentcho Valev
pva...@yahoo.com
Ian Parker
more of nuisance value than anything else. I do think however that
there are people there behind them who are really sinister.
Truth will win out in the end. True, but misleading. The thing about
Relativity is the overwhelming evidence. If you take things like, for
example, String Theory, where the evidence quite simply is not there
you are in a different situation.
The thing that astonishes me is the gullibility of people. Academic
Physicists on the whole look at evidence. They may on occaision see
things through slighly rose tinted spectacles, but basically evidence
is followed.
What amazes me is the gullibility of the general public. OK Hitler
only got 30% of the popular vote in 1933 but an extremely large number
of people believed him. Eventually Europe lay in ruins. Europe in
ruins STILL has not convinced his followers who seem to want to see
the rest of the world in ruins too.
I believe that Relativity is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies
under the surface. Well antigravity gives us a clue. Heavily
classified research is STILL going on. Of course GTR tells us that
this is all bunkum. Antigravity started with the Vril aircraft which
the 3rd Reich claimed but never produced. Truth - well it has emerged
that no spacecraft has ever visited Aldebaran and that the Vril
designs were Deutsche Betrug.
Has truth won out? Only partially, the so called "research" goes on.
The money is going into a black hole - or is it a wormhole with the
money emerging in areas of which mainsteam politics would disapprove.
Suppose a President were to say "I will cut all AG funding and I will
enquire into the way such funding has been spent in the past". That
would indeed be an alarming prospect.
You mention Maoists. My own experience of university is that radical
groups are usually left wing. It is unusual to have students
supporting an overtly fascist or racist position.
- Ian Parker
Mike Jr.
Every time that someone uses a GPS receiver they are confirming GTR.
The flat earth people have the same problem. Because the facts are
overwhelming there is zero danger that the kooks will have any effect;
they are spitting into the wind. And what happens when you spit into
the wind? You get covered with your own saliva.
As far as research goes, spending money on unpromising ideas is self
correcting. Why worry about it?
> The money is going into a black hole - or is it a wormhole with the
> money emerging in areas of which mainsteam politics would disapprove.
> Suppose a President were to say "I will cut all AG funding and I will
> enquire into the way such funding has been spent in the past". That
> would indeed be an alarming prospect.
>
> You mention Maoists. My own experience of university is that radical
> groups are usually left wing. It is unusual to have students
> supporting an overtly fascist or racist position.
Ah, the naivety of youth. Eventually people learn how the world
really works.
--Mike Jr
>
> - Ian Parker- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
hanson
>
Fatha forgive Ian Parker, for he does not know what he is doing:
Deranged kike "Ianovir Parkerinski" <ianpa...@gmail.com>
is a fetish-ridden CIA-wannabe-agent who is trying to seed
disinformation in the most desperate way as he wrote in:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/140c49ca3c111d9c/398420ff2f69eb70?hl=en&lnk=raot#398420ff2f69eb70
>
Hanson seems to be admitting that the CIA is behind
anti relativity.
>
.... ahahaha... what do you mean by "seems". Of course
they are. They wouldn't exist without relativity and they
couldn't operate without anti-relativity and anti-gravity.
>
BUT, you are not allowed, by statute, to divulge that secret,
you traitorous JerUSAlem cockroach! Who is your handler?
I will have that stupid sonofa bitch dealt with to the fullest
extent of the Law.
>
"Ianovir Parkerinski" <ianpa...@gmail.com>
We should be asking ourseves the question
"How can we build a world in which people are judged
by their contributions and not by their religion or ethic
origins?"
>
listen, you 2-faced over-medicated dreidel. Just by you
donning your prayer shawl and Yarmulke and bobbing
your head against a stone wall in religious piety does
not absolve you from being guilty of treason because:
YOU yourself do judge people in each of your posts by
their religion & by their ethnic origin, never mind the "ethic"
>
"Ianovir Parkerinski" <ianpa...@gmail.com>
In Germany and Austria you can be put in jail. I do not agree
with that. No martyrdom, they don't deserve it.
- Ian Parker
>
listen, you 2-faced over medicated kike, you are singing
now out of the other side of your foul loud-mouth again:
Even in England they throw dissidents in jail (after extradition
from Austria). This barbaric behavior by state shows you that
** "There is no difference between Nazis and Jews" **
See here why:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/f758a1ec75fc151b?hl=en
Parker's long Zion-Nazi wrap sheet:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e7d02dfe177cc0ee?hl=en
>
The glorious US of A which you fucked up jerUSAlem
cockroach do always put down and stuff into 2nd place
is different. Grandpa McCain just shook off the war-
mongering Jew senator Lieberman who hung on his
elbow like a dog from the Sheriff. So, it looks like that
a jew-less ticket is up for games...
"oye-weh!".. "Trust me!"..."Go figure"... ahahaha...
>
Thanks for the laughs you masochistic mooch...ahahanson
Ian Parker
> As far as research goes, spending money on unpromising ideas is self
> correcting. Why worry about it?
>
Little sign of this. My worry is that the money is going into a
general black project account, and not to scientific research of any
form.
Did antigravity put Saddam Hussein into power?
- Ian Parker
Mike Jr.
Ian,
Lots of money gets spent that is not spelled out in publically
available sources. Why are you worried about this project? If it's
real science then it will fail. If it's something else, then you will
never learn the truth anyway. Why fret?
Work to elect politicians that can be trusted with oversight. Why not
campaign as one and do it yourself?
--Mike Jr
hanson
V/Barney "Mike Jr." <n00...@comcast.net> for whom
*GPS* means "Gullible Stupid Punk" and for whom
*GTR* means "Goofy Twitching Rant", wrote in message
news:463da61e-ddb4-4479...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
Every time that someone uses a GPS
receiver they are confirming GTR.
>
.... AHAHAHAHAHA... AHAHAHAHA... AHAHAHA
ahaha... Varney it is known that your are not the brightest
bulb at this party, but that you are a *GPS* because
if you ever had enough money to buy a GPS gismo you
wouldn't have said what you said ion your 2-liner...and
>
if somebody gave it to you as present then you have
not read the *GTR* sales blurb nor the instructions...
>
Since you are slow on the up-take remember that:
*GPS* means "Gullible Stupid Punk" and
*GTR* means "Goofy Twitching Rant",
>
GPS NEVER needed nor used any GTR nor STR,
not for its design, not for its mgf, nor for its testing
nor for its operations... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
All this has been explained to you in detail here
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/de3a4e79dba574c8?hl=en
>
Thanks for the laughs, *GPS*-Varney... ahahahaha..
ahahaha... ahahanson
Ian Parker
countries. Let me take two examples.
The Bay of Pigs
The Russians put missiles into Cuba. Kennedy and Kruschev negotiated.
Kruschev agreed to remove missiles from Cuba on the condition thazt
America did not invade. Kennedy gave that assurance.
The CIA however organised a group of exiles who were to invade.
Totally behind Kennedy's back. They were promised air support which
never materialised. Without air cover the invasion was doomed from the
start.
The Iran Contra affair
Oliver North arranged the sale of arms to Iran. Payment for these arms
would go to the Contra rebels in Nicuagua.
One might ask a very obvious question. Was it right to support the
Contras? If support was right and in the interests of the US why
could't the cash have come directly from State Dept. funds? If you
want to murder someone or do anything in (say) Israel you are either
stopped or given full backing from public funds. Mossad does not
operate in the grey conspiratorial area that the CIA seems to. The
other aspect of "grey conspiracy" is that you often work with half
baked plans (like poison in Castro's wetsuit or exploding cigars).
These are all part of the folkore. The US Govt. does not want to put
the resources into doing the job properly and the CIA, or certain
section end up with these sort of plans.
The answer would seem to be that Congress stopped funding but that the
CIA with the connivance, tacit or otherwise, of the President found
and indirect (and highly damaging to broader US interests) way of
supporting the Contras.
We do indeed want politicians who can have oversight and demand
answers. Kennedy was right to do what he did. Reagan was very much
running in the "cloak and dagger" world.
What does a President do if he wakes up one day and finds that Saddam
Hussein has become president of Iraq? You have to adjust to the new
situation, whether you as an individual had planned it or not.
MI5 and MI6 are tightly controlled as are most intelligence services
in Europe. Only the CIA (and the ISI in Pakistan) seems to have
departments that are in theory part of government, but in practice
operate outrside. The campaign should really be to make sure that
everthing is accounted for. If you want to kill somebody, and their
death is thought at a high level to be in the interests of the US, do
a proper job.
I believe that a look at antigravity is a vital part of bringing some
degree of accountability to the process.
- Ian Parker
Dirk Van de moortel
89fd986f-3cfe-4aed...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com
> On 28 Aug, 23:15, thedarkman <A_Ba...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>>
>> to download the main publication in one file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>
> Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
> Reference?
>
> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
>
> You know antirelativity has a veneer of antisemitism.
In my experience antirelativity has a veneer of ignorance, stupidity,
and autism. They know nothing, they understand nothing, and they
aren't even aware that someone is trying to help them.
Dirk Vdm
mitchs...@gmail.com
> GPS NEVER needed nor used any GTR nor STR,
> not for its design, not for its mgf, nor for its testing
> nor for its operations... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
yeah varney's comment didn't require any of that to be the
case...nevertheless -
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/cgsic/meetings/44thmeeting/68%20GPS%20Paradigm44.pdf
"Today the general theory of relativity is not simply a subject of
theoretical scientific speculation, but rather it has entered the
realm of practical engineering necessity."
Androcles
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Newtonian SatNav GPS receivers:
£76.22
http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase29.3&prodID=1419325
SatNav with a picture of Einstein on the back, approved by relativists
everywhere: £1,762.20.
Limited offer, this week only, get TWO for the price of one.
Discounts for bulk purchases.
How many would you like, you dozy idio... err... sir?
Borked Pseudo Mailed
>>
> This is true. The US appears to be more consiratorial than other
> countries. Let me take two examples.
>
> The Bay of Pigs
>
> The Russians put missiles into Cuba. Kennedy and Kruschev negotiated.
> Kruschev agreed to remove missiles from Cuba on the condition thazt
> America did not invade. Kennedy gave that assurance.
>
> The CIA however organised a group of exiles who were to invade. Totally
> behind Kennedy's back. They were promised air support which never
> materialised. Without air cover the invasion was doomed from the start.
You have the sequence backwards: the bay of pigs fiasco was in 1961. The
missle crisis was in 1962.
hanson
-- How come no Einstein Dingleberry has ever produced
a single patent from looking at Einstein's equation(s)?
... AHAHAHAHAHA... ahaha.... AHAHAHA...
>
<mitchs...@gmail.com> are you a wanna-be ED,
or did you just hope to get a rise since you wrote in message
news:8ca1ad33-4a27-483a...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>
V/Barney "Mike Jr." <n00...@comcast.net> for whom
*GPS* means "Gullible Stupid Punk" and for whom
*GTR* means "Goofy Twitching Rant", wrote in message
news:463da61e-ddb4-4479...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
Every time that someone uses a GPS
receiver they are confirming GTR.
>
hanson wrote:
.... AHAHAHAHAHA... AHAHAHAHA... AHAHAHA
ahaha... Varney it is known that your are not the brightest
bulb at this party, but that you are a *GPS* because
if you ever had enough money to buy a GPS gismo you
wouldn't have said what you said ion your 2-liner...and
>
if somebody gave it to you as present then you have
not read the *GTR* sales blurb nor the instructions...
>
Since you are slow on the up-take remember that:
*GPS* means "Gullible Stupid Punk" and
*GTR* means "Goofy Twitching Rant",
>
not for its design, not for its mgf, nor for its testing
nor for its operations... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/de3a4e79dba574c8?hl=en
>
Thanks for the laughs, *GPS*-Varney... ahahahaha..
ahahaha... ahahanson
>
yeah varney's comment didn't require any of that to be the
case...nevertheless -
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/cgsic/meetings/44thmeeting/68%20GPS%20Paradigm44.pdf
"Today the general theory of relativity is not simply a
subject of theoretical scientific speculation, but rather
it has entered the realm of practical engineering necessity."
>
... and they also say in the same the summary: *** The GPS
"has provided a model for relativistic time measurement" ***
>
which is very different from and contrary to the Einstein
Dingleberries' hopes that SR/GR is REQUIRED and
necessary for the design and operation of GPS.
>
Your link is the second most cited source by the EDs
after Ashby's crock. The govt and Ashby SR/GR shit
both are in the SR/GR =2= domain & are nothing more
than stories that feebly, questionably & in a unnecessary
complicated and convoluted way attempt to **describe**
the modes of GPS... but NO REL is required for GPS
to be made or operated .. nor is SR/GR needed for any
improvement in GPS's accuracy... ahahahaha...
>
SR/GR is so far removed from solid reality that only in
domains =2, 3 & 4 = is Einstein's crap is still used.
But in the real world where it counts, where stuff is
produced & delivered, in =1=, they do laugh about SR/GR:
>
=1= mil/indust. Eng, R&D....................."does not need REL shit"
=2= *.edu, acad. & grantology............."does use REL,... No shit"
=3= Promo, Sales & Movies..............."loves REL by the shitload"
4= Jews defend it as cultural heritage whether "REL is shit or not".
>
More in here about how & why REL affects people's mentations:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/de3a4e79dba574c8?hl=en
which you obviously have NOT read... and if you did, you
sly dog, then you did it because it says in that link: "I am
beginning to suspect that a bunch of posters, like Varney
above, simply post Einstein shit into the Usenet to get a rise
... ahahaha..." ,
>
It also says in that same link::
for GPS where the Varney type EDs love to cite Jew Ashby's
tripe that takes him 39+ equations to arrive at the 38 usec...
that can be seen, in one fell swoop, by any high-schooler
interested in engineering that these 38 usecs are given for
this system by : (M_e /h ) * (2 G/c^2) * 86400 = 38 microsec.
>
Where is there any SR/GR here? Why go thru 39 come-ons
when you can do it with one?.... ahahahaha...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d1e978252b3a459a?hl=en
>
GPS NEVER needed nor used any SR/GR, not for its
design, not for nor its mgf, nor testing nor its operations...
>
Furthermore, if GPS would have needed or used any Einstein
shit then that case/event would appear in large print on all the
Seller's promo literature ...but as seen in here, it does NOT:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d1e978252b3a459a?hl=en
>
Finally even an old Jew poster & professor Sam Wormley have
doubts about Einstein's Rel-crap.... But obviuosly Varney's view
was NOT influenced by these 2 recent "converts" who have begun
to see the light and are voicing doubts about SR/GR in here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/a74a1cc14d288a10?hl=en
>
I don't know about you, Mitch, and much less about all the
indoctrinated Einstein Dingleberries who are worshipping
Albert's sphincter. But, let me say, in their defense, I once
was a believer like them too... until....
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/61df927803efa4f3?hl=en
::: I was, after doctoring for years in slave labor for
::: academia, when I got my first job in R&D in a defense
::: industry establishment, where the group toiled away in
::: great detail at their work. After a few days I suggested
::: that the team could save itself a lot of time and grief by
::: simply applying relativity, upon which the boss-man
::: hollered at me with very beady eyes: "Fuck you and
::: your theories, punk. Here, we measure !!! Lives and
::: Millions are at stake in this" ....
>
... and in which same context "Timo A. Nieminen" cited
Dirac who said "Theory summarises & explains empirical
facts; it doesn't replace them.
>
Still, EDs, the damaged goods that they are will not accept
any of what is reality to normal people... ahahaha...
So, I have a final question to any of my beloved entertainers,
the Einstein Dingleberries.
>
How come none of you can show an example and say:
"I looked at this equation from Einstein and it showed
and gave the the instructions of to make this gadget
which I have patented"... ???.... Bring'em on, show me
that one of your Einstein-equation-derived-inventions...
>
I mean bring on any of them except of course the obvious
creation that came about out of Einstein's equations:
*** Yourself, the Einstein Dingleberry ***... ahahaha.....
Thanks for the laughs ... ahahaha... ahhahahahanson
>
PS:
Hey Mitch, while I have you on the line. Rem re: your
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/20208f979973b605?hl=en
that trailer sample of your OSCAR nominated work
is stirring, heavy duty, arresting art, man! -- Kudos!
Listen how difficicult it is to make a decent living in
the field of film making, if you are not inside the old
establishment crowd?
hanson
mitchs...@gmail.com
>
> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote
> yeah varney's comment didn't require any of that to be the
> case...nevertheless -http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/cgsic/meetings/44thmeeting/68%20GPS%20Para...
> wherein it says in this [=2=] govt web site here:
> "Today the general theory of relativity is not simply a
> subject of theoretical scientific speculation, but rather
> it has entered the realm of practical engineering necessity."
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> ... and they also say in the same the summary: *** The GPS
> "has provided a model for relativistic time measurement" ***
>
> which is very different from and contrary to the Einstein
> Dingleberries' hopes that SR/GR is REQUIRED and
> necessary for the design and operation of GPS.
>
nevertheless the statement
"every time that someone uses a GPS receiver they are confirming GTR"
doesn't rely on your projected hopes or the other stuff you posted
against it.
for the rest i did read the stuff - it seems to be personal experience
based, which is great, and i like you except for you using the word
kike, which seems a bit much in jovial type exchanges...iow it doesn't
prove that gtr is wrong or stupid.
very important - i was in no way involved w/the oscar nominated thing.
mitchs...@gmail.com
> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8ca1ad33-4a27-483a...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 1:47 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>
> >> GPS NEVER needed nor used any GTR nor STR,
>
> >> not for its design, not for its mgf, nor for its testing
>
> >> nor for its operations... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
>
> > yeah varney's comment didn't require any of that to be the
> > case...nevertheless -
>
>
> > "Today the general theory of relativity is not simply a subject of
> > theoretical scientific speculation, but rather it has entered the
> > realm of practical engineering necessity."
>
> Newtonian SatNav GPS receivers:
> £76.22
> http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase29.3&pro...
>
liar they're £89.56 inc. VAT
heh
> SatNav with a picture of Einstein on the back, approved by relativists
> everywhere: £1,762.20.
> Limited offer, this week only, get TWO for the price of one.
> Discounts for bulk purchases.
> How many would you like, you dozy idio... err... sir?
heh
Androcles
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> £76.22
> http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase29.3&pro...
> everywhere: £1,762.20.
> Discounts for bulk purchases.
heh
All navigation calculations are done in the receiver (which contains
a computer).
Special relativistic computers for sale, guaranteed to multiply by
sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) whenever you want, only £30,000 each (£35,250 inc. VAT)
I've got half a dozen old used ones going really cheap, £1000 each,
free vacuum tube monitor, keyboard and mouse with each one.
Photocopy of Einstein pasted on the side, £100 extra.
Ideal for fitting to lawnmowers, cuts a perfect straight line on
lawns and tennis courts curved by spacetime. You may have seen
some nets attacked by spacetime curvature disease and sagging in
the middle.
http://sdc.lboro.ac.uk/smaller_images/outdoor_tennis_court.jpg
How many would you like, sir?
Mike Jr.
Ian, you have been reading too many spy novels. The CIA is based on
the British SIS. It does not operate outside of its oversight
structure any more or less than MI6.
The Iran Contra affair was run out of the National Security Council
not CIA.
Ian, please take a chill pill. This is sci.physics. These kinds of
political posts just don't seem appropriate here.
--Mike Jr
hanson
... rise all ye, and whoever is a kike, go take a hike.
----- AHAHAHAHAHA.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...----
>
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/7aa4cb4c585957a5?hl=en
wherein I said:
"I am beginning to suspect that a bunch of posters, like
Varney above, simply post Einstein shit into the Usenet
>
and the same link ended with:
How come none of you EDs can show an example & say:
"I looked at this equation from Einstein and it showed
which I have patented"... ???.... Bring'em on, show me
that one of your Einstein-equation-derived-inventions...
>
I mean bring on any of them except of course the obvious
creation that came about out of Einstein's equations:
*** Yourself, the Einstein Dingleberry ***... ahahaha.....
Thanks for the laughs ... ahahaha... ahhahahahanson
>
although that last remark was not directed at you, Mitch,
but now with your comments below you became suspect:
>
<mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote
>> yeah varney's comment didn't require any of that to be the
>> case...nevertheless -
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/cgsic/meetings/44thmeeting/68%20GPS%20Para...
>> wherein it says in this [=2=] govt web site here:
>> "Today the general theory of relativity is not simply a
>> subject of theoretical scientific speculation, but rather
>> it has entered the realm of practical engineering necessity."
>>
>> hanson wrote:
>> ... and they also say in the same the summary: *** The GPS
>> "has provided a model for relativistic time measurement" ***
>> which is very different from and contrary to the Einstein
>> Dingleberries' hopes that SR/GR is REQUIRED and
>> necessary for the design and operation of GPS.
>>
> nevertheless the statement
> Varney's "every time that someone uses a GPS receiver
> they are confirming GTR" doesn't rely on your projected
> hopes or the other stuff you posted against it.
>
> for the rest i did read the stuff - it seems to be personal
> experience based, which is great, and i like you except
> for you using the word kike, which seems a bit much in
> jovial type exchanges...iow it doesn't prove that gtr is
> wrong or stupid.
>
... ahahahaha... well then, how would you describe and
label Jews or worse the JerUSAlem cockroaches, who
call anybody whom they disagree with "Anti-Semitic"
or "Nazi" ... as if THAT would validate Einstein's shit.
These are kikes, Kikes, KIKES...nothing but KIKES,
Mitch...ahaha...
... & how would you describe & label Jews that advocate
genocide and the murder of 100's of millions of children
and urge "to put all Xians into asylums for their belief in
Christianity"...??....
Here read the details and then tell me why such jews
should not be called anything but kikes:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/55de765fbdfa66a4?hl=en
Is there something worse than that you can think of
or is that is not enough to call'em KIKES...??.....
>
ahahahaha... Thanks for the rise, Mitch... ahahaha...
and thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahanson
>
Mitch wrote:
very important - i was in no way involved w/the oscar
nominated thing.
>
Still, for whatever reason you posted that link, it shows
me that we do have some appreciation in common.
hanson
news:Bw3uk.46902$OR5....@newsfe20.ams2...
[ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.. ---/>
> You may have seen some nets attacked by spacetime curvature disease and
> sagging in the middle.
> http://sdc.lboro.ac.uk/smaller_images/outdoor_tennis_court.jpg
<\--- AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....
> How many would you like, sir?
>
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... Actually, that jpg link
illustrates the useless of the SR/GR-distortion of space
due to mass pretty well. SR/GR projects things to
"APPEAR" to be not where they should & makes things
smaller than they are , etc. ... Yet all of these illusions
have been describes by Newton 300 year earlier. IOW,
>
SR/GR is not any better, only far more complicated then
what Newton produced 300 years earlier before Kikestein
tried to upstage Newton... ahahahaha... and failed!
>
Newton had one thing FAR ahead of Einstein: ... Newton
was honest and humble. He attributed all that is not known
simply as "Action at a distance"... whose reason still eludes
us to day...
>
and to the Einstein Dingelberries' embarrassment , great
shame & chagrin... Einstein has to use Newton's humble
"G" in any and all solutions for his GR... ahaha...
>
Einstein's like Newton's formulations do produce infinities,
with Einstein infinities simply including time, sqrt(1-v^2/c^2),
whereas Newton reached deeper and made his infinity
appear in the force formulation when distance becomes
zero...
>
So, Einstein has produced NOTHING new... except to
breed, very prolific, hordes of disciples that are known as
**** Einstein Dingleberries *****... ahahahaha.. .
>
Thanks for the laughs, Andro... ahahaha... ahahanson
>
Koobee Wublee
> On Aug 29, 4:35 pm, Ian Parker wrote:
> Ian, you have been reading too many spy novels...
So, this is the arguments among two village psychopaths.
> Ian, please take a chill pill. This is sci.physics. These kinds of
> political posts just don't seem appropriate here.
So, one psychopath had enough of the other. Well, you two need to
take that chill pill. <shrug>
Koobee Wublee
> "every time that someone uses a GPS receiver they are confirming GTR"
This statement is totally false. <shrug>
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/GPS/GPS.htm
When GPS was first introduced, the physicists called out for the
ground receivers to acquire 3 satellites. However, it was the genius
of an engineer who showed the physicists that acquiring 4 satellites,
the different time flow between the satellites and ground if any can
be nullified. All today’s GPS receivers acquire at least 4 satellites
in action. That means GR is not implemented anyway at all. Your
statement is really a vicious lie. <shrug>
Koobee Wublee
> In my experience
What experience?
> antirelativity has a veneer of ignorance, stupidity,
> and autism.
Anti-relativity is a very broad subject. Galileo more than 400 years
ago identified the principle of relativity. It was never tested until
the MMX in which explanations also satisfying electromagnetism can be
either anti-relativity (Voigt transform) or pro-relativity (Lorentz
transform). After almost 20 years posting in these newsgroups, you
are still stuck under your rock from long ago.
> They know nothing, they understand nothing, and they
> aren't even aware that someone is trying to help them.
Well, evolution does certainly not work on you. <shrug>
Dirk Van de moortel
e3e4252f-caab-46cc...@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com
Koobee Wublee, retired aerospace engineer at work:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AbsurdClaim.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PrivateLagrangian.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LonelyTop.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SmellHere.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/TwoMetrics.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/DiffGeoAero.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/FlatSphere.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LorentzTale.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SRBogus.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/ReasonLaws.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NewLagrangian.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LosingIt.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AerospaceRelativity.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NewPotential.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/WhatWrong.html
Dirk Vdm
Ian Parker
<dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> e3e4252f-caab-46cc-9bde-917120fb7...@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 1:44 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" wrote:
>
> >> In my experience
>
> > What experience?
>
> >> antirelativity has a veneer of ignorance, stupidity,
> >> and autism.
>
> > Anti-relativity is a very broad subject. Galileo more than 400 years
> > ago identified the principle of relativity. It was never tested until
> > the MMX in which explanations also satisfying electromagnetism can be
> > either anti-relativity (Voigt transform) or pro-relativity (Lorentz
> > transform). After almost 20 years posting in these newsgroups, you
> > are still stuck under your rock from long ago.
>
> >> They know nothing, they understand nothing, and they
> >> aren't even aware that someone is trying to help them.
>
> > Well, evolution does certainly not work on you. <shrug>
>
> Koobee Wublee, retired aerospace engineer at work:
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AbsurdClaim.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LonelyTop.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SmellHere.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/TwoMetrics.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/DiffGeoAero.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/FlatSphere.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LorentzTale.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SRBogus.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/ReasonLaws.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LosingIt.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AerospaceRelat...
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NewPotential.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/WhatWrong.html
>
Is the Honeywell buzzword generator in use?
- Ian Parker
Ian Parker
Time is acquired at the groung station that does not have a clock, or
at least not one of any accuracy. The clocks in space still need to be
accurate to the nanosecond.
For 2 coordinates + time you need 3 satellites.
For height you need 4.
In practice a system will try to aquire as many satellites as it can
to do averaging and reduce error.
- Ian Parker
Ian Parker
<dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> 89fd986f-3cfe-4aed-a560-f1877d585...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com
under attack. There are many other scientific theories that are
complicated and difficult to understand. Quantum Theory is in many
respects a much more difficult and paradoxical worls than Relativity
yet it seems to be accepted 100%.
In Biology Evolution has come under attack from religious
funamentalists, but otherwise has been free from any attacks. The
attack on Relativity has been sustained for a very long time.
Evolution, Intelligent Design and the Discovery Institute are really
the only comperable cases.
There have been concepts like Inflatrion. Now the Big Bang theory does
have a major difficulty - Baryon Number. After the BB there was just
energy and equal numbers of particles and antipartices. How did we get
a predominace of Baryons. I used to trot out asymmetry of the weak
force, but this has now been proved to be insufficient. Why don't
people get up, shout whoope and say Inflation is dead. No. it is only
Relativity that is ever attacked. We simply say our knowledge of
Elementary Pazrticle Physics is incomplete.
Relativity is not mentioned in the Bible or the Koran. It is not
inconsistent with any established religion. Why is it attacked? I can
understand Adam and Eve. I recall that a year or so ago there was
correspondence on Evolution. This now seems to have died down (for the
moment).
My comments on "fossils testing our faith" and pulsars being
spacecraft from Aldebaran (equally sent to test our faith) is a
commentary on the quantity and quality of posting. There does seem to
be a religious element of some sort and it is idle to suppose
otherwise. If it is a religion one is entitled to sk "What religion?".
- Ian Parker
stric...@gmail.com
>
> You know antirelativity has a veneer of antisemitism.
>
That would be a bad move, to associate anti-relativity with anti-
semitism.
You see, whether you like it or not, whether you cannot understand it
or not, relativity is a fallacious theory. To associate the two would
simply imply that semitism is a fallacious ism.
stric...@gmail.com
>
> Relativity is not mentioned in the Bible or the Koran. It is not
> inconsistent with any established religion. Why is it attacked?
You are denser than lead.
Relativity is attacked, because it is wrong.
The real why is: why is it still considered at all?
Androcles
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
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treatment, anoint their souls with this:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KJ5SF44HL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
Y'know, I could get rich on relativists but since the bastards never produce
anything but papers no one reads to show the world how clever they are
they never have any fuckin' money...
Two recent examples: Gerald Lebau (glird the tord) selling his book, trying
to
promote it on usenet, doesn't even understand the composition of functions,
and Ken Seto, aetherialist, trying to do the same.
As an aside, this is an example of infinite acceleration:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Wave/ripple.gif
At the exact centre the velocity of the wave is zero, but at any point
away from the centre it is c.
That's nought to c in no seconds flat, infinite acceleration.
Ian Parker
Is it? The evidence is all here.
http://ianparker.g3z.com/Relativity/index.htm
The antisemitic aspect comes from H E Retic (who I call "La Reta") who
is the author/compiler of "The Einstein Hoax".
I am still waiting for an alternative theory. We know
1) 7TeV protons travel a slither (c/24,500,000) below c. The Klystrons
that do the accelerating asume that speed.
There are many other examples given.
2) Pulsars lose energy because of gravitational radiation, they
precess (like Mercury) but a lot faster.
In fact the only alterntive explanation that springs to mind is that
they are not neutron stars at all but spacecraft from Aldebaran sent
to test our faith. The signal being produced by electronics.
It would be nice to directly observe gravitational waves rather than
infer them from a loss of energy. I am optimistic that with LISA and
improvements in LIGO this will soon be the case.
H E Retic talks about Jewisn Physics. To me this is an appeal to a
medieval concept that somehow the laws of nature can be changed with
human will. Does being an anti Semite invalidate his theories? Yes and
no. Dobson (Lewes Caroll) was a paedophile yet that in no way
diminished.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/aug/23/biography.books
You see his geometry in no way depended on anything else. La Reta on
the other hand talks about "Jewish Physics" as if "Jewish" Physics was
any different from British, American or French Physics.
I would like an alternative theory which explains everything I have
quoted on my website. You can even stipulate spacecraft from Aldebaran
testing our faith.
- Ian Parker
Peter Bowditch
>Is the Honeywell buzzword generator in use?
Wow! I hadn't heard of that in years.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
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Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
mitchs...@gmail.com
> hanson wrote:
>
> ... ahahahaha... well then, how would you describe and
> label Jews or worse the JerUSAlem cockroaches, who
> call anybody whom they disagree with "Anti-Semitic"
pretty annoying at least, i'd call 'em, but "kike" offends folks not
in that group, jewish or not, and isn't needed to make your
point...because don't get me wrong on this...
>
> Mitch wrote:
>
> very important - i was in no way involved w/the oscar
> nominated thing.
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> Still, for whatever reason you posted that link, it shows
> me that we do have some appreciation in common.
absolutely...madame tutli-putli is a very haunting piece of animation,
not least because of laurie's big sad eyes...
mitchs...@gmail.com
relativity". what do you make of this -
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
gl...@aol.com
<dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
> In my experience anti-relativity has a veneer of ignorance,
> stupidity, and autism. They know nothing, they understand
> nothing, and they aren't even aware that someone is trying to
> help them.
>
There is a HUGE difference between a theory and a set of equations.
It is a form of ignorant stupidity to think that
when experiments fit the equations they thereby prove that
the THEORY is correct.
For example: The equation e = mc^2 has been verified, more
or less. The theory that matter is a form of energy is then
though to have been proved. However, since "energy" is the
ability to do work, and "work" is mass times the distance
moved, and "mass" is a quantity of matter, it seemed evident
that if all existing matter was converted into energy, there
would be no mass left, so e = mc^2 = 0. Given that absurd
result, physics withdrew the above definition of "energy"
AND NONE REPLACED it ever since.
In reality, although "mass" IS a quantity of matter, a gram
is a unit of weight. When some of the material of which an atom is
made escapes, that portion no longer responds to gravity thus has no
weight; while the remaining atom weighs a bit less than before. So it
isn't the mass that converted into energy, it is its weight.
Similarly, although the STR equations yield experimentally verified
results, the THEORY set forth by Einstein and Minkowski and Wheeler et
al doesn't FIT those equations, which Einstein never did accurately
derive.
Therefore, Moortal Man, the shoe is on your own foot:
Relativity has a veneer of ignorance, stupidity, and autism.
The relativists know nothing, they understand nothing, and they aren't
even aware that someone is trying to help them.
glird
Androcles
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> so hanson i did some clicking around w/keywords "practical uses of
> relativity". what do you make of this -
>
> http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
>
1) Useless word salad aka bullshit. Materials are not metamaterials.
2) You don't understand any of it.
3) It has more references than content.
gl...@aol.com
> The antisemitic aspect comes from H E Retic (who I call "La
> Reta") who is the author/compiler of "The Einstein Hoax".
himelf, he disagrees with Einstein.
> I am still waiting for an alternative theory.
Any such theory that contradicts the STR equations is false. Since
Einstein's THEORY contradicts the STR equations, it too is false.
> It would be nice to directly observe gravitational waves >rather than infer them from a loss of energy. I am >optimistic that with LISA and improvements in LIGO this will >soon be the case.
>
There aren't any gravitational waves. A g-field is a density
gradient in a local material field, and a g-force arises INSIDE the
atoms of a body embedded in - thus part of - such a field.
> H E Retic talks about Jewisn Physics. To me this is an
> appeal to a medieval concept that somehow the laws of
> nature can be changed with human will.
Where does he do that?
> Does being an anti Semite invalidate his theories? Yes and
> no.
Does being a semite validate a persons theories? NO!!!
> I would like an alternative theory which explains
> everything I have quoted on my website.
I haven't examined what you quoted there; but if
you really want to understand everything, read
"The Theory of Everything" by Gerald Lebau
glird
hanson
>
hanson wrote about the practical use of "Kike" in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/98fbb9b755a16c1a?hl=en
>
and <mitchs...@gmail.com> retorted with this in message
news:0bc7f582-e55e-4f0c...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> so hanson i did some clicking around w/keywords "practical uses of
> relativity". what do you make of this -
> http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
>
ahahaha... AHAHAHA... & so after switching the subject ,
"the practical use of relativity" is still and will always be an
empty phrase, or as Koobee Wublee says "it's a vicious lie"
.... ahahahaha....
and "what do I make of this" ... is that this is a con, the usual
misleading tripe when telling a story. --- Where in their article
does it says that they looked at a REL equation of Einstein
which told them what elements to use and in what proportion
to mix'em, cook'em and form'em?.... ahahahaha... ahahaha..
>
It's a blathering grand-standing story of their delusions about
"operating behind the scenes of perfect invisibility devices",
ahahaha.... but it doesn't even suggest the 1st or next tiny
step of how to make and much less improve the properties
of their non existing "meta-materials"... ahahahaha....
>
They sing like uncle rect-Al does with/about his synthetic
kg-sized gem quality diamonds that never made it off his
keyboard... ahahahaha... Just read their Abstract!...
What kind of a gullible sucker have you turned into, not to
realize that
----/>
"a theory is a story! It does not tell you how to make things"
<\----
and Einstein's crap is the posten item for all of that... ahaha..
but thanks for the laughs, Mitch... ahahaha... ahahahanson
hanson
news:7be53347-6e39-4213...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...:
> mitchsperk...@gmail.com wrote that
> "Ian Parker" <ianpa...@gmail.com> wrote
> > "every time that someone uses a GPS receiver they are confirming GTR"
>
> This statement is totally false. <shrug>
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/GPS/GPS.htm
> When GPS was first introduced, the physicists called out for the
> ground receivers to acquire 3 satellites. However, it was the genius
> of an engineer who showed the physicists that acquiring 4 satellites,
> the different time flow between the satellites and ground if any can
> be nullified. All today’s GPS receivers acquire at least 4 satellites
> in action. That means GR is not implemented anyway at all. Your
> statement is really a vicious lie. <shrug>
>
Time is acquired at the groung station that does not have a clock, or
at least not one of any accuracy. The clocks in space still need to be
accurate to the nanosecond.
For 2 coordinates + time you need 3 satellites.
For height you need 4.
In practice a system will try to aquire as many satellites as it can
to do averaging and reduce error.
- Ian Parker
>
... avg or no avg... Where is the relativity?... ahahaha...
That all just usual triangulation and trilateration
the latter of which is simply vertical triangulation.
>
But you, Ian, as a classical Einstein Dingleberry
must see everything in term of relativity... ahahahaha...
which is why you are poor like a temple-mouse...
ahahaha
>
Here is your sordid & gruesome Parkerovski wrap sheet
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/5b3995174b3fe5e7?hl=en
Thanks for all the laughs, Ian. You are a good sport.
ahahahahaha... hahahahahanson
BURT
> On 28 Aug, 23:15, thedarkman <A_Ba...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>
> > to download the main publication in one file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>
> Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
> Reference?
>
> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
>
>
> continuous postings in sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity.
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/140c49...
>
> Hanson seems to be admitting that the CIA is behind anti relativity.
>
> The dead cannot be brought back to life, but I think families who have
> lost loved ones in the Holocaust deserve some degree of closure + of
> course the assurance that such a thing can never happen again.
> Unfortunately it can. Iraq has been ethically cleansed. Refugees are
> wandering across the Middle East. 1.3 million in Syria a million in
> Jordan.
>
> We should be asking ourseves the question "How can we build a world in
> which people are judged by their contributions and not by their
> religion or ethic origins?" Will people please address this question.
> An answer is absolutely vital.
>
> We all share some sort of responsibility. Physicists can exercise that
> responsibility by exposing these people, exposing the hidden
> motivations. Exposing La Reta foor what it is.
>
> I say expose these people. In Germany and Austria you can be put n
> jail. I do not agree with that. No martyrdom, they don't deserve it.
>
> - Ian Parker
The speed of light has constancy through space.
Mitch Raemsch
hanson
You know antirelativity has a veneer of antisemitism.
agree with that. No martyrdom, they don't deserve it,
[to which... with great deservedness]...hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... HAHAHAHAHA... ahahahahaha....
Look at the two foremost s.p. relativity gurus lecturing
each other here... It's a true tear jerker!... AHAHAHA...
especially Mitch Raemsch who is yodeling & blowing
into his Alphorn again to impress his relativistic crony
Parkerovski whose sordid & gruesome wrap sheet can
be seen here
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/5b3995174b3fe5e7?hl=en
Thanks for all the laughs, guys. You are a good sports.
ahahahahaha... hahahahahanson
>
PS:
Ian listen,
if and when fancy strikes, I will show you
with the certitude of relativism that the
--------- "Andromeda-Gerät" --------------
actually flew many test flights in 1944-1945,
under carefully selected conditions, exactly
in the same fashion that relativists do
conduct their SR/GR experiments....
Obama Insane
>
> - Show quoted text -
Androcles, come to think of it many of those spacetime diagrams look
exactly like that tennis net. Were those around when Albert was
sucking on his pipe and dreaming about that Nobel Prize? The only
thing missing is a "heavy-mass" tennis ball smashing into the net,
warping its earth-time structure.
Tom Potter
"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvand...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:AcZtk.303079$Q%5.5...@newsfe27.ams2...> 89fd986f-3cfe-4aed...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com
>> On 28 Aug, 23:15, thedarkman <A_Ba...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>>>
>>> to download the main publication in one file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>>
>> Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
>> Reference?
>>
>> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
>>
>
> and autism. They know nothing, they understand nothing, and they
> aren't even aware that someone is trying to help them.
>
It is sad that the General Relativity Guru's on the public dole
have been able to use the taxpayer's money
in the forms of media, education, and costly experiments
to brainwash losers with inferiority complexes
into becoming Cultists who believe that they have power
in the form of esoteric knowledge,
when the fact of the matter is that none of the
General Relativity Cultists can compute even ONE
of the many tides computed by Newton hundreds of years ago
using hand calculations and his primitive model.
Considering that General Relativity,
which has been enormously hyped for race/religion reasons
by a sympathetic mass media,
potential Cult Members should compare General Relativity
to some of the other scientific models.
After Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
I noticed in the news recently
that the DNA model was recently used to develop
a new form of rice that will prevent 500,000 children
from going blind EVERY YEAR,
and that it was used to convert blood types,
and that people with rare blood types will have a safe
supply of blood in the future,
and I also noticed recently
that the DNA model was used to discover
that chickens are related genetically to the dinosaur.
Now potential Cultist,
would you spend your own money conducting experiments
that predict things that are useless, non-cost-effective,
or far, far beyond man's capacity to
experience in time and space,
things like the birth and death of the universe,
time travel, warping through space, worm holes,
black holes, gravitons, evolution of stars, etc.
Or would you spend your money on DNA projects to
develop better food crops,
improve animal husbandry,
develop better medicine,
reconstruct history more accurately,
cure cancer,
create bees that pollinate essential plants more surely,
create animals that can sniff out chemicals and diseases, etc.,
save endangered animals,
find criminals,
purify water,
etc.
One would think that if the General Relativity Guru's
possessed powerful, esoteric knowledge,
that at least a few of them would have used this knowledge
in the last hundred years to make a lot of money in the free market,
rather than clinging to tenured, taxpayer supported positions
that they used to con more losers into become cultists.
The following URL demonstrates moortel's
knowledge of General Relativity.
http://tinyurl.com/moortel
--
Tom Potter
http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dingleberry.htm
Eric Gisse
[snip]
Thus Tom Potter is reduced to copying and pasting from text files
rather than making an argument.
Tim Miller
Potter has never had an original (or cogent) thought in his life.
Dono
> and "work" is mass times the distance moved,
Really , Lebau?
I take back what I said earlier, you didn't drop out of high scholl in
10-th grade, you flunked 9-th grade, pretentious idiot!
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
He might have had one before he started going senile.
--
Jim Pennino
Remove .spam.sux to reply.
Tim Miller
> In sci.physics Tim Miller <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Eric Gisse wrote:
>>> On Aug 30, 3:15 pm, Tom Potter <tdp1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Thus Tom Potter is reduced to copying and pasting from text files
>>> rather than making an argument.
>> Potter has never had an original (or cogent) thought in his life.
>
> He might have had one before he started going senile.
>
hanson
"Tim Miller" <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote
twice, that Tom Potter made Miller crank himself
>
ahahaha... Thanks for laughs... ahahanson
hanson
mitchs...@gmail.com
> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>
> > so hanson i did some clicking around w/keywords "practical uses of
> > relativity". what do you make of this -
>
> >http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
>
> 1) Useless word salad aka bullshit. Materials are not metamaterials.
this is what you have to refute, not to me (see below) but to yourself
-
"In this paper, we show that general relativity provides clear recipes
for calculating the required material properties."
> 2) You don't understand any of it.
i recognize a really awesome goal, but don't understand the equations,
yer right.
> 3) It has more references than content.
this in itself doesn't stand if the content is simple enough. don't
get all flustered
mitchs...@gmail.com
> --- AHAHAHAHAHA --- AHAHAHAHAHA ---
>
> hanson wrote about the practical use of "Kike" inhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/98fbb9b755a16c1a?hl=en
>
> > relativity". what do you make of this -
> >http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> ahahaha... AHAHAHA... & so after switching the subject ,
no, look again; i posted twice, and on that subject, as uncle al says,
intelligence does not have a skin colour, and i would add neither does
any other human trait...well, within certain parameters...
> --- Where in their article
> does it say that they looked at a REL equation of Einstein
> which told them what elements to use and in what proportion
> to mix'em, cook'em and form'em?....
this seems the burning question, i can't answer it - i'm
researching...anybody?
> It's a blathering grand-standing story of their delusions about
> "operating behind the scenes of perfect invisibility devices",
> ahahaha.... but it doesn't even suggest the 1st or next tiny
> step of how to make and much less improve the properties
> of their non existing "meta-materials"... ahahahaha....
"next step" isn't mentioned - this is what you have to refute, not to
me -
"In this paper, we show that general relativity provides clear recipes
for calculating the required material properties."
>
> They sing like uncle rect-Al does with/about his synthetic
> kg-sized gem quality diamonds that never made it off his
> keyboard...
in itself not good enough; lots of great things failed to happen >>
don't assign any partisanship to this statement.
> ahahahaha... Just read their Abstract!...
> What kind of a gullible sucker have you turned into, not to
> realize that
> ----/>
> "a theory is a story! It does not tell you how to make things"
why do you suffer traveller's stories and not albert's?
> <\----
> and Einstein's crap is the posten item for all of that... ahaha..
> but thanks for the laughs, Mitch... ahahaha... ahahahanson
i'll forgive you "posten item"...heh! listen, the love is there, and i
know you don't even think it's crap, it just works to a certain degree
or/and within certain parameters, just like my beloved V-6
Dirk Van de moortel
> On 29 Aug, 21:44, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> <dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> 89fd986f-3cfe-4aed-a560-f1877d585...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com
>>
>>> On 28 Aug, 23:15, thedarkman <A_Ba...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>>
>>>> to download the main publication in one file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>>
>>> Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
>>> Reference?
>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
>>
>>> You know antirelativity has a veneer of antisemitism.
>>
>> In my experience antirelativity has a veneer of ignorance, stupidity,
>> and autism. They know nothing, they understand nothing, and they
>> aren't even aware that someone is trying to help them.
>>
> under attack.
Because the math is deceivingly simple.
Every flunked high school kid and every retired engineer (except
Androcles) knows (or still remembers) handle square roots.
The only thing they forget is that talking and thinking physics with
equations requires understanding the physical meanings of the
variables, and *that* is where go wrong - *ALL OF THEM*.
> There are many other scientific theories that are
> complicated and difficult to understand. Quantum Theory is in many
> respects a much more difficult and paradoxical worls than Relativity
> yet it seems to be accepted 100%.
Yes, but it takes complex numbers and integrals.
No flunked high school kid knows it and no retired engineer recalls
it - so they stay away from it.
Dirk Vdm
>
> In Biology Evolution has come under attack from religious
> funamentalists, but otherwise has been free from any attacks. The
> attack on Relativity has been sustained for a very long time.
> Evolution, Intelligent Design and the Discovery Institute are really
> the only comperable cases.
>
> There have been concepts like Inflatrion. Now the Big Bang theory does
> have a major difficulty - Baryon Number. After the BB there was just
> energy and equal numbers of particles and antipartices. How did we get
> a predominace of Baryons. I used to trot out asymmetry of the weak
> force, but this has now been proved to be insufficient. Why don't
> people get up, shout whoope and say Inflation is dead. No. it is only
> Relativity that is ever attacked. We simply say our knowledge of
> Elementary Pazrticle Physics is incomplete.
>
> Relativity is not mentioned in the Bible or the Koran. It is not
> inconsistent with any established religion. Why is it attacked? I can
> understand Adam and Eve. I recall that a year or so ago there was
> correspondence on Evolution. This now seems to have died down (for the
> moment).
>
> My comments on "fossils testing our faith" and pulsars being
> spacecraft from Aldebaran (equally sent to test our faith) is a
> commentary on the quantity and quality of posting. There does seem to
> be a religious element of some sort and it is idle to suppose
> otherwise. If it is a religion one is entitled to sk "What religion?".
>
>
> - Ian Parker
Dirk Van de moortel
188112b4-ea3a-411f...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com
> On Aug 29, 4:44 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> <dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In my experience anti-relativity has a veneer of ignorance,
>> stupidity, and autism. They know nothing, they understand
>> nothing, and they aren't even aware that someone is trying to
>> help them.
>>
> There is a HUGE difference between a theory and a set of equations.
Yes.
There is a HUGE difference between a novel and a set of sentences.
Dirk Vdm
Dirk Van de moortel
690e59ec-0958-40f2...@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com
> "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvand...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:AcZtk.303079$Q%5.5...@newsfe27.ams2...
>> Ian Parker <ianpa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> 89fd986f-3cfe-4aed...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com
>>> On 28 Aug, 23:15, thedarkman <A_Ba...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>>>>
>>>> to download the main publication in one file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>>>
>>> Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
>>> Reference?
>>>
>>> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
>>>
>>> You know antirelativity has a veneer of antisemitism.
>>
>> In my experience antirelativity has a veneer of ignorance, stupidity,
>> and autism. They know nothing, they understand nothing, and they
>> aren't even aware that someone is trying to help them.
>>
>> Dirk Vdm
>
> It is sad that the General Relativity Guru's on the public dole
> have been able to use the taxpayer's money
> in the forms of media, education, and costly experiments
Potter The Protter:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PotterTable.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/HorseAss.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/HorseAss2.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Hitler.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PotterWay.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/FullHoles.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/ImaginaryHoles.html
Dirk Vdm
The TimeLord
<ianpa...@gmail.com> in
89fd986f-3cfe-4aed...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
> On 28 Aug, 23:15, thedarkman <A_Ba...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> check
>> out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>>
>> to download the main publication in one
>> file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>
> Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
> Reference?
>
> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
You've got to be kidding! H E Retic, whose real name is Ernst Wittke from
West Camden NJ, has been spamming a number of UseNet groups with his
idiotic junk for at least five years. His spam is pure idiotic nonsense
as far as science is concerned. The guy doesn't even know, or care what
a Lorentz Transformation is. Even though he has been refuted over and
over and over and... - well you get the picture - he claims that he has
never been shown to be wrong. I am alarmed by the fact that his trash is
now being purveyed on a web site that has support from such organizations
like the Hewlett Packard, The National Science Foundation, The Library Of
Congress and The Alfred P Sloan Foundation. Geesh! Our tax dollars and
donations at work! Makes a scientist want to cry, especially when they
tell real scientists that research funding has to be cut!
>
> You know antirelativity has a veneer of antisemitism.
Amen!
>
> Why do we continue to give "La Reta" house room? Why are there
> continuous postings in sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity.
Indeed!
>
> Hanson seems to be admitting that the CIA is behind anti relativity.
I'm not sure that there is any validity to that. However, now that the
NSF and LOC are supporting a web site purveying Wittke's crap, you never
know.
>
> The dead cannot be brought back to life, but I think families who have
> lost loved ones in the Holocaust deserve some degree of closure + of
> course the assurance that such a thing can never happen again.
I've had the unusual opportunity to talk to both one of the German
rocket scientists and one of the Jewish prisoner/slaves that were at
Dora during WW2. Both said "You've had to be there to fully understand."
*That* I believe. Even though both died a few years ago with no animosity
toward the other, they both underscored the inhumanity that those in
power inflicted on those without a way to redress their grievances.
They both insisted it could happen again and happen in the United States.
> Unfortunately it can. Iraq has been ethically cleansed. Refugees are
> wandering across the Middle East. 1.3 million in Syria a million in
> Jordan.
Yeah, and even before that, Sadam gassed the Kurds while the world (ie
the UN) watched and did nothing but by his petrol.
>
> We should be asking ourseves the question "How can we build a world in
> which people are judged by their contributions and not by their religion
> or ethic origins?" Will people please address this question. An answer
> is absolutely vital.
It begins by education: education not in madrassas for jihad promoting
holy bloodshed blaspheming Allah, but in jihad against sin and for
reality. It will not happen unless people stop support purveyors of hate
like Osama bin Ladin or Ernst Wittke.
>
> We all share some sort of responsibility. Physicists can exercise that
> responsibility by exposing these people, exposing the hidden
> motivations. Exposing La Reta foor what it is.
>
> I say expose these people. In Germany and Austria you can be put n jail.
> I do not agree with that. No martyrdom, they don't deserve it.
Yeah. I'm sorry for the intensity of my rant, but like I've said, it's
alarming that our government is now using our tax money and donations to
NPR/Sloan Foundation to support this stupid crap. I know I'm not sending
any more money to NPR until they change. As for the taxes, I guess I'm
just going to have to calibrate my vote accordingly. As an afterthought,
if some of the decent people of this newsgroup would write their Congress-
person about this issue, we could get more interest from the people that
count.
--
// The TimeLord says:
// Pogo 2.0 = We have met the aliens, and they are us!
Ian Parker
> On Aug 30, 8:47 am, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote:> The antisemitic aspect comes from H E Retic (who I call "La
> > Reta") who is the author/compiler of "The Einstein Hoax".
>
> The author of that hoax isn't antisemitic. Despite being jewish
> himelf, he disagrees with Einstein.
>
> > I am still waiting for an alternative theory.
>
> Any such theory that contradicts the STR equations is false. Since
> Einstein's THEORY contradicts the STR equations, it too is false.
SR cannot be internally contracdicted. at its basic level it rests on
Group Theory. If our equations of Physics are invariant under the
Lorenz group then SR is true.
Physics is about experiment, Mathematics is about what can be said
without logical contradiction. To say that SR is INTERNALLY
contradicted invalidates Group Theory. This cannot be done logically.
Whether SR descrbes reality rests on experiment. As I said all the
experiments confirm the theory.
>
> > It would be nice to directly observe gravitational waves >rather than infer them from a loss of energy. I am >optimistic that with LISA and improvements in LIGO this will >soon be the case.
>
> There aren't any gravitational waves. A g-field is a density
> gradient in a local material field, and a g-force arises INSIDE the
> atoms of a body embedded in - thus part of - such a field.
>
So pulsars arn't Neutron stars they are spacecraft from Aldebaran put
there to test our faith. How do you explain the energy loss in
pulsars? Tidal friction? No way - if anything the pulsar's spin would
produce a GAIN in energy.
> > H E Retic talks about Jewisn Physics. To me this is an
> > appeal to a medieval concept that somehow the laws of
> > nature can be changed with human will.
>
> Where does he do that?
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
>
> > Does being an anti Semite invalidate his theories? Yes and
> > no.
>
> Does being a semite validate a persons theories? NO!!!
>
> > I would like an alternative theory which explains
> > everything I have quoted on my website.
>
> I haven't examined what you quoted there; but if
> you really want to understand everything, read
> "The Theory of Everything" by Gerald Lebau
>
As I have described the 4 foces consitute "everything". There is no
theory of any other forces. His theory of electromagnetism is simply
wrong.
>
_ ian Parker
hanson
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cfc1dc4e-b983-4c06...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...>> hanson wrote about the practical use of "Kike" in:
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/98fbb9b755a16c1a?hl=en
>>
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote
> i'll forgive you ... the love is there, and i know you don't
> even think it's crap, .... I just like my beloved V-6
>
hanson wrote:
.... ahahahah.... AHAHAHAHA... the roar of the V-8s
in my Hummer fleet applauds the hard work of their
little V-6 brothers... ahahaha.. Thanks for the laughs,
Mitch... ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahanson
>
rbwinn
<dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> � 89fd986f-3cfe-4aed-a560-f1877d585...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com
>
> >> check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>
> >> to download the main publication in one file:http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>
> > Is the speed of light the same in all directions and in all Frames of
> > Reference?
>
> >http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22H.%20E.%20Retic%22
>
>
> and autism. They know nothing, they understand nothing, and they
> aren't even aware that someone is trying to help them.
>
> Dirk Vdm
Here, help me with this problem, Dirk. Einstein says that he has a
train, bolts of lightning, etc. What I am doing is just concentrating
on the mechanical aspects of the train. A wheel on the train has a
circumference C. So if the wheel rotates one time, it travels on a
section of railroad track with a length of C.
So we get the train cranked up to a high rate of speed. Maybe it
is one of those Japanese trains that go 360 miles an hour. Anyway, we
have a clock on the train and an identical clock on the ground beside
the railroad track. As scientists all agree, the clock on the train
runs slower than the clock on the ground.
What I would like to know, Dirk, is how the observer on the
train gets the same velocity for the train as the observer on the
ground gets if the clock on the train is running slower. Just show
how the train wheel with a circumference of C travels a shorter length
of railroad track.
According to Ian Parker, if you can explain this to me, I can
become something other than an anti-Semite, so this is very important
to me. Thank you for your help with this problem, Dirk.
Robert B. Winn
Androcles
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2613db28-c49e-4fa5...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 30, 10:47 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
>> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:0bc7f582-e55e-4f0c...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>
>> > so hanson i did some clicking around w/keywords "practical uses of
>
>> > relativity". what do you make of this -
>
>>
>
>> >http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
>
>>
>
>> 1) Useless word salad aka bullshit. Materials are not metamaterials.
>
> this is what you have to refute, not to me (see below) but to yourself
> -
This is what you have to believe, not for me but for yourself:
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img22.gif
Why did Einstein say
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" each way is the same?
Your answer goes here:
________________________________________________________
Other answers have been:
According to Ian Parker:
"We are not talking about the speed of light here we are talking
classical stability theory." -- Idiot Ian Parker.
______________________________________________________
According to cretin harald.vanlin...@epfl.ch
"Easy: he did NOT say that."
According to moron van lintel, Einstein did not write the equation he wrote.
______________________________________________________
According to xxein:
It is an artefactual/superficially imposed yin-yang of sorts.
______________________________________________________
According to Lamenting Shubert:
Why do you want to know?
______________________________________________________
According to Imbecile Jimmy Black:
" In neither system (meaning frame of reference in modern-day terminology)
is the speed of light c-v or c+v. In both systems the speed of light is c."
According to the imbecile Jimmy Black, Einstein did not write the equation
he wrote.
______________________________________________________
According to Dork Bruere
"I don't give a damn what Einstein wrote."
______________________________________________________
According to Spirit of Truth:
that math is correct but WRONG
______________________________________________________
According to constipated Eric Gisse
"I don't give a shit (fill in the blank ____________)."
______________________________________________________
'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to
agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID, don't you
dare question it. -- Rabbi Albert Einstein
I don't need to refute anything, the dork has to prove his assertion.
> "In this paper, we show that general relativity provides clear recipes
> for calculating the required material properties."
No, no, GR works only on metamaterials which have metaproperties.
>
>> 2) You don't understand any of it.
>
> i recognize a really awesome goal, but don't understand the equations,
> yer right.
Uh huh... I recognise a really awesome metagoal.
>
>> 3) It has more references than content.
>
> this in itself doesn't stand if the content is simple enough. don't
> get all flustered
I'm not even metaflustered.
The TimeLord
<ianpa...@gmail.com> in
ba47c498-2de3-4ef8...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
> On 29 Aug, 19:38, "Mike Jr." <n00s...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Aug 29, 2:16 pm, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 29 Aug, 17:36, "Mike Jr." <n00s...@comcast.net> wrote:> As far as
>> > research goes, spending money on unpromising ideas is self
>> > > correcting. Why worry about it?
[...]
>> Lots of money gets spent that is not spelled out in publically
>> available sources. Why are you worried about this project? If it's
>> real science then it will fail. If it's something else, then you will
>> never learn the truth anyway. Why fret?
>>
>> Work to elect politicians that can be trusted with oversight. Why not
>> campaign as one and do it yourself?
>>
> This is true. The US appears to be more consiratorial than other
> countries. Let me take two examples.
>
> The Bay of Pigs
>
> The Russians put missiles into Cuba. Kennedy and Kruschev negotiated.
> Kruschev agreed to remove missiles from Cuba on the condition thazt
> America did not invade. Kennedy gave that assurance.
>
> The CIA however organised a group of exiles who were to invade. Totally
> behind Kennedy's back. They were promised air support which never
> materialised. Without air cover the invasion was doomed from the start.
I think the chronology is off a bit. The CIA under Eisenhower planned
the Bay of Pigs invasion and it was planned to have air cover provided
by the Air Force Reserve unit at Birmingham AL, which was to fly out
of Guatemala. The problem was that the Cubans in Miami didn't keep their
mouths shut about the operation and so secrets leaked out like through
a sieve. Kennedy, after he was elected inherited the Bay of Pigs operation
but wanted to keep it top secret even though it was so well known that
the KGB had all the details and they didn't even have to spy on us. So
when it began, he feared that the operation could escalate to nuclear
war with the Soviet Union and he denied air cover to give the appearance
that the USA was not involved. After the Bay of Pigs operation ensconced
Fidel Castro firmly in power, Castro jumped at the idea of having
nuclear missiles in his land. The Soviets provided them because they
wanted to keep Cuba as a friendly country. Kennedy countered the
Soviet's missiles with Nike missiles in places like the Florida Keys,
the Everglades and in downtown Miami. At the time, Nike-Hercules
missiles were nuclear capable, even though the nuclear warheads were
never deployed, as far as anyone knew. The big problem that both
leaders faced was the same problem that always plagued the Cold War
and also plagues the world now in nuclear context. Miscalculation by
some low-level dude could set off a thermonuclear holocaust, since
such powerful weapons in so close proximity gave an exceedingly small
decision window (at the time on the order of 15 minutes), meaning that
leaders had only that amount of time to decide whether or not to
retaliate to an initial enroute missile and take appropriate action to
prevent all-out war. Kennedy's big goal was to get the Soviets to
withdraw to a point where the decision window was more realistic for
promoting world peace. Kennedy gave two concessions. First he would
remove the Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey, which didn't work anyway,
and he agreed that Fidel could be master of Cuba.
>
> The Iran Contra affair
>
> Oliver North arranged the sale of arms to Iran. Payment for these arms
> would go to the Contra rebels in Nicuagua.
>
> One might ask a very obvious question. Was it right to support the
> Contras? If support was right and in the interests of the US why could't
Yes it was right to support the Contras. At the time, the Soviets had
stationed bombers in Cuba. They were also expanding the runway in St
George's (the capital of Grenada) to handle those same bombers. With
the fall of Nicaragua to the communists, the Soviets would have
certainly have stationed bombers there as well. Given the range of
those bombers, the Soviets would have had a strangle-hold on all
imports coming into the US via the Gulf ports, most notably oil. In
order for the bombers to go, the regimes/leaders had to go. A one-sided
renegotiation of Castro's agreement with Kennedy was apparently
considered, but that's not official. At any rate, Bishop (Grenada)
and Noriega (Nicaragua) were disposed of and Castro was spared with
little complaint from the Soviets.
> the cash have come directly from State Dept. funds? If you want to
Congress had expressly forbidden that. Since Congress didn't want to
save the USA, trading weapons for hostages for crack cocaine for
laundered money did. [smile]
> murder someone or do anything in (say) Israel you are either stopped or
> given full backing from public funds. Mossad does not operate in the
> grey conspiratorial area that the CIA seems to. The other aspect of
It just shows that they are better operatives than those of the CIA.
However, since Mosad accidently shot a scientist in Sweden, the shine
on their armor has dulled a bit. I think they're still super though.
[...]
> We do indeed want politicians who can have oversight and demand answers.
> Kennedy was right to do what he did. Reagan was very much running in the
> "cloak and dagger" world.
Any President has to do that. For proof I'd suggest a lengthy study of
how George Washington dealt with the Benadict Arnold scandal. That was
a great "cloak and dagger" operation and even though the strategically
important Fort West Point was lost for a while, we ended up winning the
war.
>
> What does a President do if he wakes up one day and finds that Saddam
> Hussein has become president of Iraq? You have to adjust to the new
Or, for that matter, get that 3 am phone call that the Russians have
invaded Georgia with all of their oil pipelines supplying virtually
all the oil in Europe - and that before a winter that climatologists
predict will be one of the coldest on record (despite the whining
about global warming).
> situation, whether you as an individual had planned it or not.
Makes me glad I don't live in Germany any more.
[...]
> I believe that a look at antigravity is a vital part of bringing some
> degree of accountability to the process.
Mmmmmm, you keep mentioning antigravity. That research is pretty much
dead. I know I've posted the saga of the Tempere group and Dr Ning Li,
for what it's worth. After all the yelling and shouting and hurt feelings
I don't think anyone has much of an interest in getting back into that
field even if there were money in it. From what I know of those that
I had met in the research during the 90s, the payoff needs to be well
past 6 digits to even get a rise from them to consider getting back
into antigravity research. I can't say I blame them.
Tom Potter
"Tim Miller" <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:g9clmr$2p2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
senile
====
showing a decline or deterioration of physical strength or mental
functioning,
esp. short-term memory and alertness, as a result of old age or
disease.
Although I am flattered to see that "Tim Miller"
continues to be a faithful reader of my posts,
and that they affect him emotionally,
I was disappointed to see that one of my faithful readers
was ignorant of the fact
that senility has to do with "deterioration",
and generally old age at that.
Although I was hoping that my posts
reached folks with more intelligence and knowledge,
I am pleased with Timmy's following nevertheless.
Tom Potter
<ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
news:bp1po5-...@mail.specsol.com...
> In sci.physics Tim Miller <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Eric Gisse wrote:
>>> On Aug 30, 3:15 pm, Tom Potter <tdp1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Thus Tom Potter is reduced to copying and pasting from text files
>>> rather than making an argument.
>>
>> Potter has never had an original (or cogent) thought in his life.
>
> He might have had one before he started going senile.
Jim Pennino raises a good point
when he suggests that I may getting forgetful.
Although, it appears from the mass media,
and from Jim Pennino and some posters in sci.physics
that I should remember that General Relativity
was and is a great model of reality,
although I worked for four Fortune 500 companies
who were the leaders in applying advanced technology,
and although I was a sales engineer who called on
researchers in government, major universities,
and corporate labs, I just can't recall any of them
using General Relativity to do anything useful.
Now I do recall these people using Newton's model
to design machines, mechanisms and structures,
and Maxwell's model to design electronic systems,
and explore chemistry,
but I just can't recall any useful applications of General Relativity.
I do recall that General Relativity is the model of choice
if one wants to design a time travel machine,
a worm hole, or work with rubber scales and clocks,
and of course understand the mind of God,
and all about the beginning and end of the universe,
so perhaps there is some hope for me.
Tim Miller
> "Tim Miller" <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g9clmr$2p2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics Tim Miller <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Eric Gisse wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 30, 3:15 pm, Tom Potter <tdp1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus Tom Potter is reduced to copying and pasting from text files
>>>>> rather than making an argument.
>>>> Potter has never had an original (or cogent) thought in his life.
>>> He might have had one before he started going senile.
>>>
>> He was BORN senile.
>
> senile
You don't have to SIGN your posts, you ignorant bastard.
Tom Potter
"Tim Miller" <replyton...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
Thanks to my pal "Tim Miller"
for pointing out that I spend so much time
trying to deprogram Einstein Cultists,
that I don't have time to post much "original" stuff.
Some of my "thoughts" are listed below.
Hopefully if Timmy has the capacity to parse these "thoughts",
and the intelligent to comprehend them.
he let me know if he can find anything
original in them or better yet, provide references about the points
I make. so that I can see what others are thinking along these lines.
"pi" is basically a constant used to express discrete reality
(events) in terms of continuous reality (space).
Auto-correlation is used to determine discrete reality
and cross-correlation is used to determine continuous reality.
Auto-correlation involves a set of events associated with
a single point or body,
cross-correlation involves a set of events associated with
two points or bodies.
Discrete reality is expressed in "N" counts of
cycles or events (Which are one point entities)
in a sample,
continuous reality is expressed in "N" counts of
cycles*x (Where x is a two point entity)
in a sample.
Note that x can be degrees, grads, mils, radians,
hertz seconds, etc. x can be any real number.
In other words,
if x is an integer you are expressing discrete reality.
if x is a real number you are expressing continuous reality.
The most fundamental two points
that can be equated to discrete reality (Cycles)
is the diameter of a cycle (Circle)
as Josh indicated.
2 pi is a Dedekind Cut
that separates discrete reality from continuous reality.
As can be seen,
2 pi is the math equivalent of physic's "c"
the so-called speed of light.
In other words, 2 pi is a constant used to
express discrete one point realities,
which are basically times,
in terms of continuous two point realities,
which are basically spaces,
just as "c" is used to express time intervals
in terms of spaces.
Tom Potter
"Eric Gisse" <jow...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1e5f388f-
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Thanks to my pal Eric Gisse,
the high school graduate from the state
of McBush's Vice Presidential partner,
for calling attention to the fact
that although I have challenged the Einstein Cultists
many times by "cutting and pasting" my challenge,
that none of them are capable of computing
using only General Relativity,
even one of the many tides that Newton computed
centuries ago, using hand calculations and his
primitive model.
Hopefully my pal Gisse will use his posts to
encourage some of the Einstein Cultists
to put their knowledge where their mouth is,
and post a few real world examples of how General Relativity
can be used to do something useful
in a cogent, efficient, cost-effective way.
From the personal attacks by the Einstein Cultists on critics,
and from their inability to use the tools provided to them by their
God,
one would think that General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Tim Miller
> so perhaps there is some hope for me.
The EVIDENCE is all against it...
Androcles
> Now I do recall these people using Newton's model
> to design machines, mechanisms and structures,
>
> and Maxwell's model to design electronic systems,
Are you suggesting that when a CRT is evacuated, Maxwell's
aether isn't scavenged along with the air?
http://cmccord.co.uk/Radio/Images/osc_03.gif
I've seen Faraday's model used to design electronic systems
and electric motors, even hard drives for computers, but what
did Maxwell ever do?
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
> Tom Potter wrote:
> > so perhaps there is some hope for me.
>
> The EVIDENCE is all against it...
That's what you said about Homeopathy....
Do some research before making such
sweeping statements.
WRONG AGAIN!!!
Citizen Jimserac
Tim Miller
> On Aug 31, 11:03 am, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Tom Potter wrote:
>>> so perhaps there is some hope for me.
>> The EVIDENCE is all against it...
>
> That's what you said about Homeopathy....
>
>
And it remains true.
mitchs...@gmail.com
> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cfc1dc4e-b983-4c06...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> On Aug 30, 12:32 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> >> --- AHAHAHAHAHA --- AHAHAHAHAHA ---
> >> hanson wrote about the practical use of "Kike" in:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/98fbb9b755a16c1a?hl=en
>
> > even think it's crap, .... I just like my beloved V-6
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> .... ahahahah.... AHAHAHAHA... the roar of the V-8s
> in my Hummer fleet applauds the hard work of their
> little V-6 brothers... ahahaha.. Thanks for the laughs,
> Mitch... ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahanson
>
>
sensing a protest on your part against my perhaps over-snipping of
your words, i'll cop to that, but would still like to present you with
this -
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
"Imagine there were no practical limits on the electromagnetic
properties of materials."
which sounds like the sort of thing traveller would imagine, with your
support, but why no support for this other thing above? certainly you
have to know the properties of materials to best exploit them, and
wouldn't it be great to change the properties for maximum
exploitation?
is this an engineer vs physicist thing?
Philip Mathews
wrote:
> "Sara Salzman" <catam...@concentric.net> wrote in message
>
> news:catamont-509085...@news-40.giganews.com...
>
> > In article
> > <841d627b-511d-4885-9386-e7530cfc0...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> > thedarkman <A_Ba...@abaron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> check out:http://www.alexanderbaron.150m.com/eatwell-doesnt-believe.html
>
> >> to download the main publication in one file:
> >>http://www.sendspace.com/file/1h8mq2
>
>
> Why do you descend to the gutter, salzman?
That's where people like you and Baron reside, old fool!
If you'd just stay there, you wouldn't have to take so much abuse.
--
Philip Mathews
mitchs...@gmail.com
> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2613db28-c49e-4fa5...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Aug 30, 10:47 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
> >> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:0bc7f582-e55e-4f0c...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > so hanson i did some clicking around w/keywords "practical uses of
>
> >> > relativity". what do you make of this -
>
> >> >http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
>
> >> 1) Useless word salad aka bullshit. Materials are not metamaterials.
>
> > this is what you have to refute, not to me (see below) but to yourself
> > -
>
> This is what you have to believe, not for me but for yourself:
>
> Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img22.gif
again, sadly the beautiful equations are a language i don't
understand.
>
> Why did Einstein say
> the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
> the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
> the "time" each way is the same?
>
> Your answer goes here:
>
okay i'll stick my neck out - because +v / -v cancel out? now you can
add my answer to your quite humorous list...heh
> ________________________________________________________
>
> Other answers have been:
>
> According to Ian Parker:
>
> "We are not talking about the speed of light here we are talking
> classical stability theory." -- Idiot Ian Parker.
> ______________________________________________________
>
> According to cretin harald.vanlintelButNotT...@epfl.ch
is that of no use? they claim metamaterials have been around for ages,
and seem to seek a way to change materials into such. am i wrong here?
>
>
> I'm not even metaflustered.
heh!
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
> Citizen Jimserac wrote:
> > On Aug 31, 11:03 am, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >> Tom Potter wrote:
> >>> so perhaps there is some hope for me.
> >> The EVIDENCE is all against it...
>
> > That's what you said about Homeopathy....
>
> And it remains true.
Please learn the meaning of the word "ALL".
Repeating your assertions will NOT enhance
their veracity.
Citizen Jimserac
Tim Miller
> On Aug 31, 11:57 am, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Citizen Jimserac wrote:
>>> On Aug 31, 11:03 am, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Tom Potter wrote:
>>>>> so perhaps there is some hope for me.
>>>> The EVIDENCE is all against it...
>>> That's what you said about Homeopathy....
>> And it remains true.
>
> Please learn the meaning of the word "ALL".
>
> Repeating your assertions will NOT enhance
> their veracity.
That goes the same for you, putz.
Androcles
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3abe5213-6727-458c...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 31, 4:46 am, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:cfc1dc4e-b983-4c06...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...>
>> On Aug 30, 12:32 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>> >> --- AHAHAHAHAHA --- AHAHAHAHAHA ---
>> >> hanson wrote about the practical use of "Kike" in:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/98fbb9b755a16c1a?hl=en
>>
>> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote> i'll forgive you ... the love is there,
>> and i know you don't
>> > even think it's crap, .... I just like my beloved V-6
>>
>> hanson wrote:
>>
>> .... ahahahah.... AHAHAHAHA... the roar of the V-8s
>> in my Hummer fleet applauds the hard work of their
>> little V-6 brothers... ahahaha.. Thanks for the laughs,
>> Mitch... ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahanson
>>
>>
>
> sensing a protest on your part against my perhaps over-snipping of
> your words, i'll cop to that, but would still like to present you with
> this -
>
> http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
>
> "Imagine there were no practical limits on the electromagnetic
> properties of materials."
Imagine having a wild imagination.
Androcles
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:37df7ae3-4e00-4e4c...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 31, 5:21 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
>> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:2613db28-c49e-4fa5...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 30, 10:47 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
>> >> <mitchsperk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:0bc7f582-e55e-4f0c...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > so hanson i did some clicking around w/keywords "practical uses of
>>
>> >> > relativity". what do you make of this -
>>
>> >> >http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
>>
>> >> 1) Useless word salad aka bullshit. Materials are not metamaterials.
>>
>> > this is what you have to refute, not to me (see below) but to yourself
>> > -
>>
>> This is what you have to believe, not for me but for yourself:
>>
>> Ref:
>> http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img22.gif
>
> again, sadly the beautiful equations are a language i don't
> understand.
>>
>> Why did Einstein say
>> the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
>> the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
>> the "time" each way is the same?
>>
>> Your answer goes here:
>>
> okay i'll stick my neck out - because +v / -v cancel out? now you can
> add my answer to your quite humorous list...heh
I will, I keep it here, duly updated at your request:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/QUESTION.htm
Any correction required?
GR is of no use.
> they claim metamaterials have been around for ages,
> and seem to seek a way to change materials into such. am i wrong here?
Who are "they"?
Ian Parker
>
It travels a shorter length of railrad track because it sees the
railraoad as moving and the railroad is contracted. This is whap
happens in theory. In practice the wheels will expand because of
centrifugal force and beak up long before contraction because of
relativity became noticable.
Is this a quibble? No, in point of fact one of the extremely few good
points made on the Einstein Hoax website is that quantum
electrodynamics, which govers the properties of such thiungs as wheels
and trains predicts a contraction isomorphic with that of Relativity.
What I have beeen belly aching about is :-
1) The weak and strong nuclear forces, neither of which is mediated by
QED.
2) Graviy and the lossof energy from pulsar pairs.
3) Approaching via QED assums that electromagnetism is the sole cause
of mass.
- Ian Parker
Dirk Van de moortel
Surely you are not going to try to educate a *welder*?
Dirk Vdm
gl...@aol.com
independently of its direction of application". As such,
there is only one force in the universe, pressure itself.
A net pressure is the only thing that can change the velocity
of a given mass with a given weight. Since pressure cannot
exist in or be exerted by an empty void, but electromagnetic
force does permeate a vacuum, there is no such thing as an
empty space anywhere in the universe.
As to how a force (pressure) CAN exist in a vacuum, that is
answered in total detail in The Anpheon. (I will email you
the pdf file of that book for free, Ian, if you send me your
email address.
glird
aaure intself.
Androcles
<gl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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glird
As defined by Newton:
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Gerald Lebau is a fuckhead, as defined by me.
gl...@aol.com
>
> As defined by Newton:
> For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
>
> Gerald Lebau is a fuckhead, as defined by me.
>
The android's language reveals the depth of his stupidity.'
glird
Ian Parker
made some postings ago about complex numbers is quite interesting. I
am attemppting to show that what we need for Space Solar Power,
observing Earths revolving round other stars etc. etc. is a system of
phase addition. You need a fragmented telescope to observe Earths, and
ultra stable platforms. This did indeed seem to be a leap too far for
some people. Basically Physical Optics is a matter of complex
summation.
I have also said that the ISS has basically no scientific value. It is
not ultra stable and its function is political rather than scientific.
There is however one point which I think overides all the others. If
you want to learn about Relativity you should equip yyourself with the
relevant tools. If you want to criticise the theory you should
understand it first.
- Ian Parker
Androcles
<gl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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glird
Forces act between TWO bodies, there is no such animal
as "a net pressure measured independently of its direction
of application"...
Lebau's language reveals the abysmal depth of his incredible
stupidity.
Get your butt moving out of New Orleans. Right now.
Sara Salzman
<01d0d56a-3225-4726...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Philip Mathews <philip...@comcast.net> wrote:
An interesting statement from Mr. Cramer, though. I respond to Alexander
Baron, and Cramer responds "Why do you descend to the gutter?" So I
suppose it's quite clear that Mr. Cramer believes that responding to
Baron is "descending to the gutter."
It's a stopped clock moment, folks. Mr. Cramer is absolutely correct.
Alex Baron is absolutely a gutter-dweller.
Sara
--
"I don't know" can be a very bad answer when it is disingenuous.
You can't answer "I don't know if that happened" about the Holocaust.
- Penn Jillette, 7/3/08
Dirk Van de moortel
rbwinn, the welder wrote:
Ian Parker wrote:
>>> It travels a shorter length of railrad track because it sees the
>>> railraoad as moving and the railroad is contracted.
>>
I wrote:
>> Surely you are not going to try to educate a *welder*?
>>
Ian Parker wrote:
> You are all the time assuming that that is the case.
I write:
Are you talking to *me*?
Or to the rbwinn, the welder?
Dirk Vdm
B.H. Cramer
"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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And there we have it folk. A classic example of how the devious, deceitful,
nasty yid mind works.
Just brilliant.
rbwinn
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At least Ian gave an answer, Dirk. I know it must be embarrasing not
to be able to answer a question and all. Anyway, if you do come up
with an answer of how to get the same velocity with two clocks running
at different rates, feel free to respond at any time.
I know how much of a humanitarian you are, and how concerned you
must be about people like me who might become anti-Semitic by not
believing in the length contraction.
But I have to be honest. I don't think that two clocks running at
different rates will show the same speed for the same moving object.
Robert B. Winn
mitchs...@gmail.com
keywords "practical uses of relativity" admittedly do not reap much...
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> > they claim metamaterials have been around for ages,
> > and seem to seek a way to change materials into such. am i wrong here?
>
> Who are "they"?
>
they of the article -
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/247/njp6_10_247.html
"Metamaterials have a long history: mediaeval ruby glass, for example,
is a metamaterial. Ruby glass contains nano-scale gold colloids that
render the glass neither golden nor transparent, but ruby, depending
on the size and concentration of the gold droplets."
rbwinn
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Well, I just solve it with the Galilean transformation equations.
Suppose we do what Galileo did and tell time by the rotation of the
earth. One rotation of the earth on its axis is 24 hours. Now
suppose we have a space shuttle traveling at a high rate of speed
close to the earth. How many times will the earth rotate on its axis
as seen from the space shuttle while it is rotating one time as seen
from earth. Surprisingly, we conclude that the earth will rotate one
time as seen from either frame of reference. So we have these
equations:
x'=x-vt
y'=y
z'=z
t'=t
The values in the last equation can be determined from degrees of
rotation of the earth on its axis.
But we have a clock in the space shuttle which shows that the speed of
light is 186,000 miles per second as seen from the space shuttle. So
we say, Let n' be the time shown by the clock in the space shuttle.
What is the value of n'?
w= velocity of light
x=wt
x'=wn'
wn'=wt-vt
n'= t(1-v/w)
So the clock in the space shuttle is running slower than a clock on
earth. As a matter of fact, at the speed of the planet Mercury, the
fastest thing that can be observed with the naked eye, at 30 miles per
second, n' agrees with t' to several decimal places.
And as we see from the Galilean transformation equations, there is
no length contraction. But if the astronauts in the space shuttle use
the clock in the space shuttle to calculate their velocity, it will be
a faster velocity than an observer on earth would observe using his
clock which agrees with the rotation of the earth.
Robert B. Winn
mitchs...@gmail.com
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well, isn't that how wicked new shit gets made into reality? could
shakespeare have imagined computers?
rbwinn
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Why be so hateful, Dirk? Maybe Ian would like to learn something
about how relativity of time is described by the Galilean
transformation equations.
Robert B. Winn
Androcles
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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They say Corning glass (which contains nanoscale copper colloids,
very good for conducting heat) is cookware but I use stainless steel
and aluminium. No relativity in it though. After all, who'd want to cook
in a pot containing colonnades of shit colloids?
http://tinyurl.com/5tgw57
Androcles
<mitchs...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Can you imagine how to make 3D TV?
When a laser beam (or a shaft of sunlight coming in the window)
is "seen" what really happens is dust motes in the air scatter light
in all directions.
http://www.metmuseum.org/special/Ordrupgaard/images/41.L.jpg
Now suppose you illuminate the same dust mote with several beams
coming from different directions. All the dust motes along the beam
will show up faintly, but where the beams cross that particular dust
mote will be much brighter.
So... with several of these:
http://hackedgadgets.com/category/computer-hacks/page/16/
(see Western Digital Hard Drive Oscilloscope video) it would be possible
to paint 3D images in mid-air by modulating the beam, all we need
is a differently placed camera for each projector around the subject
and the same arrangement for the display.
Seen these?
http://www.holograms.bc.ca/3D-crystals/
http://www.cerion-laser.de/?gclid=CIbK05efuZUCFQsZQgodSzHaPw
How's that for wicked new shit? And with really powerful lasers
its Ghost Riders in the Sky.
The difference between my wild imagination and the crap you are
talking about is that I don't violate the real laws of physics with
GR garbage, Mr Sperkins.