Jewish Intelligence?
nowarforisrael.com
August 19. 2007
Jewish intelligence has become a hot topic following the publication
of a paper by Greg Cochran and Henry Harpending in The Journal of
Biological Science. Charles Murray weighed in with an article in
Commentary (Jewish Genius, April, 2007). Murray's theory is quite a
bit like the one I published in my 1994 book, A People That Shall
Dwell Alone (Ch. 7). I discussed eugenic events such as the Babylonian
exile in which the elite Israelites were relocated to Babylon and
refused to intermarry with those left behind when they returned (as
graphically recounted in the Books of Ezra and Nehemiah). I also
described a great deal of discrimination against the illiterate in the
ancient world, with the effect that such people were excluded from the
Jewish community. Marriage to such a person was especially abhorrent.
And I recounted the history of Jewish education and Jewish
idealization of the scholar, including especially the practice of
wealthy Jews marrying their daughters to scholars and providing them
with business opportunities. Because wealth was correlated with
reproductive success in traditional societies, this had the effect of
eugenic selection for intelligence. All of these practices originated
in the ancient world and are well attested among both Ashkenazi and
Sephardic populations in later centuries.
The argument of Cochran and Harpending depends on Ashkenazi
uniqueness. Their major contribution is to elaborate evidence that
Ashkenazi intelligence is linked to mutations associated with brain
metabolism and to certain Jewish genetic diseases (e.g., Tay-Sachs
disease). I certainly do not want to deny that there is some unique
genetic basis for Ashkenazi IQ. Indeed, I described the evidence
available as of 1994 on Ashkenazi CNS mutations linked to brain
metabolism in A People That Shall Dwell Alone (Ch.2):
Eldridge (1970; see also Eldridge & Koerber 1977) suggests that a
gene causing primary torsion dystonia, which occurs at high levels
among Ashkenazi Jews, may have a heterozygote advantage because of
beneficial effects on intelligence. Further supporting the importance
of selective processes, eight of the 11 genetic diseases found
predominantly among Ashkenazi Jews involve the central nervous system,
and three are closely related in their biochemical effects (see
Goodman 1979, 463). [Further,] Motulsky (1977a) suggests that the
higher incidence of myopia in Ashkenazi Jewish populations could be
the result of selection for higher verbal intelligence. Myopia and
intelligence have been linked in other populations, and Jews tend to
have higher intelligence and higher rates of myopia.
Eldridge, R. (1970). The torsion dystonias: Literature review and
genetic and clinical studies. Neurology 20:1-78.
Eldridge, & T. Koerber (1979). Torsion dystonia: Autosomal
recessive form. In Genetic Diseases among Ashkenazi Jews, ed. R. M.
Goodman & A. G. Motulsky. New York: Raven Press.
Motulsky, A. G. (1979a). Possible selective effects of
urbanization on Ashkenazi Jews. In Genetic Diseases Among Ashkenazi
Jews, ed. R. M. Goodman & A. G. Motulsky. New York: Raven Press.
Cochran and Harpending base their argument of Ashkenazi uniqueness on
their belief that Jews did not have a reputation of being smart in the
ancient world. However, if you look at Jewish religious writings, such
as the Mishnah (2nd century AD) and the Talmuds (4th and 6th century),
their elites were at a very high level. And it should be remembered
that until the Enlightenment, the vast majority of Jewish scholarship
was directed within the Jewish community, rather than at science or
philosophy. As a result, Jewish intelligence may not have been
apparent to non-Jews. In the ancient world, Jewish education was the
norm and the system where scholars benefited with advantageous
marriages was already in place. And in any case, the historical record
supports the idea that Jews were quite successful economically in the
ancient world. After the failed rebellions against the Romans during
the 1st and 2nd century, Jews achieved a very prominent economic
position in the Roman Empire and dominated some industries, so the
familiar pattern of Jews as an elite group was well underway at that
time. Consider, for example, the following passage from Separation and
Its Discontents:
Bachrach (1985) suggested that the Jews were so wealthy, powerful,
and aggressive that until around the middle of the 5th century the
government viewed a strong anti-Jewish policy as not politically
viable, even though it was continually being pressured in this
direction by the Church. The rather limited anti-Jewish actions of the
government during the 150 years following the Edict of Toleration of
313 are interpreted "as attempts to protect Christians from a
vigorous, powerful, and often aggressive Jewish gens" (Bachrach 1985,
408). The Jews themselves were perceived by the emperors, the
government, and the Church fathers as "an aggressive, well-organized,
wealthy, and powerful minority" (p. 408). Particularly revealing are
the suggestion that the solvency of the municipalities depended on
Jews paying their taxes and the fear that offending the Jews could set
off widespread and costly revolts, such as the one led by Patricius in
351.
Bachrach, B. S. (1985). The Jewish community in the Later Roman
Empire as seen in the Codex Theodosianus. In "To See Ourselves as
Others See Us": Christians, Jews, "Others" in Late Antiquity, ed. J.
Neusner & E. S. Frerichs. Chico, CA: Scholars Press.
In short, Jews in the ancient world had all of the characteristics
associated with later Ashkenazi populations: Economic preeminence, an
occupational profile emphasizing business, finance, trading, and
manufacturing, high levels of education, and a scholarly elite
producing complex, religious writing. Scholarship was an excellent
means to achieve upward mobility and presumably greater than average
reproductive success.
These traits also characterized the Sephardim. I agree with Murray on
the Sephardim because of the complete dominance of Spain by the New
Christians (economic, political, and intellectual) after the
"conversions" of the early 15th century. This group remained
influential in Amsterdam and elsewhere, but they gradually lost their
grip in Spain because of the Inquisition. They became separated from
the wider Jewish community--mainly the lower classes of Jewish society--
after the expulsion of 1492. This was a dysgenic event for that group,
and their descendants do not seem especially accomplished. This is a
passage from Ch. 7 of A People that Shall Dwell Alone:
Jews who continued to practice Judaism in Spain during the 15th
century and were subsequently expelled in 1492 were less educated and
less economically successful than their Converso brethren who remained
to endure the wrath of the Inquisition. In this case, the less wealthy
Jews certainly suffered fewer casualties and eventually were able to
emigrate to North Africa or the Levant. Eventually, the Levantine
Sephardim underwent a distinct atrophy of their culture..., while the
descendants of the Conversos continued their highly elite and
exclusivist profile on the international economic scene. When these
Levantine Sephardim immigrated to the United States in the 20th
century, they exhibited much higher rates of illiteracy, alcoholism,
prostitution, and wife abandonment than did the Ashkenazim (Sachar
1992, 338). While the Ashkenazim were quickly upwardly mobile in
American society, the Sephardim achieved only "a modest economic
foothold" and were more likely to engage in lower-status occupations
(Sachar 1992, 340).
My view is that the Jewish population of Spain had all the
characteristics of Ashkenazi populations, including the emphasis on
Jewish scholarship and favorable marriages for scholars. The Conversos
were at least as accomplished as Ashkenazi groups and dominated Spain
at least until the Inquisition and even for quite a while thereafter.
The section on the ups and downs of Jews in the Muslim world is here:
http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/OrientalJewsIQ.htm
The argument emphasizes the pattern of lower Sephardic IQ than for
Ashkenazi populations within Israel. Nevertheless, it also notes that
in general Jewish populations had higher intelligence and achievement
in Arab societies when they were politically allowed to prosper.
Perhaps the accomplishments of the Levantine Sephardim during some
periods were facilitated because of the low average IQ of the peoples
they lived among. In other words, they were highly capable compared to
the native populations. There seems to be good evidence that the
decline of the Levantine Sephardim was due at least partly to anti-
Jewish actions.
Anthropologist Peter Frost has proposed a variation on the theme of
Cochran and Harpending. Frost emphasizes the shift to early marriage,
especially by "semi-rural artisans who produced on contract for urban
merchants and who could ably exploit these larger, more elastic
markets. . . . Their workforce was their household. In more successful
households, the workers would marry earlier and have as many children
as possible. In less successful ones, they would postpone marriage, or
never marry."
This theory also demands Ashkenazi uniqueness, which is at least
questionable given the above. The cottage industry niche was a fairly
short-lived phenomenon, so a more formal argument would have to be
made involving the power of selection among Jewish artisan families
and between Jews and non-Jews. Frost's proposal reminds us that the
stereotype of Jews as financiers, money lenders, merchants, and
traders can be overdone. Indeed, the general pattern was for Jews to
be involved in vertically integrated business and trading
arrangements. For example, in Poland by the end of the 18th century,
Jews dominated almost all areas of trading, manufacturing, and estate
managing, and they had become dominant among the artisans as well (A
People That Shall Dwell Alone, Ch. 5; Zionism and the Internal
Dynamics of Judaism). The Jewish economic niche began with trading,
estate managing, and money lending, but eventually they dominated
virtually the entire economy except agricultural labor as the Jewish
population increased.
Given this pattern, it seems gratuitous to attribute causality to one
part of this pattern, especially when artisanry was the last economic
niche to become dominated by Jews. Indeed, the Jewish involvement with
artisanry seems to have been a consequence of their already dominating
other areas; artisanry was the last remaining niche above agricultural
labor to be dominated by Jews. For Frost's model to work, he must
assume that the IQ of the Jewish population prior to their involvement
in artisanry was at the population average. But the progenitors of
Jewish artisans in Eastern Europe were Jewish traders, money lenders,
and estate managers--hardly low-IQ professions. Overall, the Jewish
occupational profile in Eastern Europe is familiar in other times and
places, including the ancient world and Spain prior to the
Inquisition, so it's difficult to see how this fits as an argument for
Ashkenazi uniqueness.
It should also be noted that Jewish fertility was very high not simply
because they were involved in artisanry, but also for religious
reasons: the rise of the Hasidic movement. Poor Jewish families
continued to have high fertility even when the result was poverty (see
Zionism and the Internal Dynamics of Judaism). My argument is that
eventually Jews overshot their economic niche entirely. This had huge
consequences for the modern world not only because it figured
prominently in the pressures resulting in anti-Semitism in Eastern
Europe throughout the 19th and into the 20th century, but also because
the main Jewish responses to their misery in Eastern Europe were
Zionism and political radicalism--two very potent forces indeed.
john.ku...@sympatico.ca
"Ashkenazi uniqueness"
Has there been any other tribal research done in this area? Some of
the African tribes have simmilar characteristics don't they?
Uncle Al
>
> Jewish Intelligence
>
> August 19. 2007
>
> Jewish intelligence has become a hot topic following the publication
> of a paper by Greg Cochran and Henry Harpending in The Journal of
> Biological Science.
My Jews were kiting checks when your goyim were still swinging from
trees. Everybody knows this and everybody fears it. Jews from the
Pale of Settlement average 2/3 sigma above average European IQs. That
makes no significant difference amidst the lumpen proletariate. When
we get to six sigmas above the mean Profoundly Gifted... the Manhattan
Project had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi concentration camp.
[snip]
They weren't hired for diversity, bubbula. Kill off the bottom 90%
and you have a Master Race remaining.
> My argument is that
> eventually Jews overshot their economic niche entirely. This had huge
> consequences for the modern world not only because it figured
> prominently in the pressures resulting in anti-Semitism in Eastern
> Europe throughout the 19th and into the 20th century, but also because
> the main Jewish responses to their misery in Eastern Europe were
> Zionism and political radicalism--two very potent forces indeed.
>
> http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/blog-IQ.htm
Devout Jews were disgusting to live near (still are - Crown Heights,
Brooklyn) for all sorts of aesthetic, cultural, and self-esteem
issues. Worst of all, the Jews won't let you in. Catholics will
scrape shit off the streets if it promises to dump in a collection
plate and have babies. Go to synagogue, find its rabbi, invest an
hour describing to him your sincerity, desire, and holy mission to
convert. After that hour he will say "no."
It's "emes" or nothing. Jews don't believe there is quality in
quantity. Visiting fundie or kaballah crazies won't work, either.
'We see that the altar is open to anyone who desires to obey the 613
commands in full compliance with the truth from Aleph {the first
letter of the Aleph Bais} to Mem {the middle letter of the Aleph Bais}
to Sav {the last letter of the Aleph Bais}. Together they spell Emes,
"TRUTH".' Then the rabbi will tell you "no" again, right to your
face.
If you don't have the key the door remains closed. We don't want
you. You cannot buy your way in, you cannot cheat. Go in, go back.
The rabbi will say "no."
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
John Larkin
wrote:
You can't convert to being Irish, either. Eat your heart out, dude.
John
BobW
"John Larkin" <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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[snip the bs]
>>If you don't have the key the door remains closed. We don't want
>>you. You cannot buy your way in, you cannot cheat. Go in, go back.
>>The rabbi will say "no."
>
> You can't convert to being Irish, either. Eat your heart out, dude.
>
>
> John
>
So, why did they (whoever *they* are) allow Sammy Davis Jr. to become
Jewish? That dog don't hunt!
Bob
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Whoopie Goldberg?
The stories about the purity of the Jewish lineage are overblown, IMO.
I've known a number of people who converted. It all depends on finding
the right rabbi and convincing him of the sincerity of your faith. Once
you're in, or maybe a couple of generations later, who's going to
question your status?
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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BobW
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
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> BobW wrote:
>>
>> "John Larkin" <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:7oc6m31634ldih52l...@4ax.com...
>>
>> [snip the bs]
>>
>> >>If you don't have the key the door remains closed. We don't want
>> >>you. You cannot buy your way in, you cannot cheat. Go in, go back.
>> >>The rabbi will say "no."
>> >
>> > You can't convert to being Irish, either. Eat your heart out, dude.
>> >
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>>
>> So, why did they (whoever *they* are) allow Sammy Davis Jr. to become
>> Jewish? That dog don't hunt!
>
> Whoopie Goldberg?
>
> The stories about the purity of the Jewish lineage are overblown, IMO.
> I've known a number of people who converted. It all depends on finding
> the right rabbi and convincing him of the sincerity of your faith. Once
> you're in, or maybe a couple of generations later, who's going to
> question your status?
>
> --
> Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
It is an interesting religion, however. You've gotta love a group that has a
word for those who aren't Jewish (a "goy" is a non Jew).
I have a friend who's Jewish and is a môhel (pronounced "moil", and is one
who does circumcisions). He says that the base salary isn't too good, but he
gets lots of tips.
Bob
Phil Hobbs
beginning to shake. He went to his insurance agent to take out a
liability policy. The agent said "Hmm. That's a very unusual request.
I'll have to talk to my underwriters and get back to you." A week
later, the agent called and said "I have some good news and some bad news."
"What's the good news?"
"You can have a million-dollar policy for a premium of $10 per month."
"That's great! What's the bad news?"
"There's a two-inch deductible."
(boom-TISH.)
Cheers,
Phil Hobbs
Offramp
about Jews in chess. Worth a look.
Androcles
"Offramp" <alane...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a6c878d-07b8-4138...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
: Just today I read this very good article
: about Jews in chess. Worth a look.
I have no doubt jews are as intelligent as most gentiles and
homo neanderthalensis. Cross breeding with gorilla gorilla
and then inbreeding doesn't change it much, if at all.
Aren't they the silly bastards the borrowed "the one god"
concept from the Egyptian "Ra" and dumped their religious
crap on the rest of the world?
Computers play better chess than most jews and are
not religious either.
John Larkin
"The Jews are the world's greatest optimists. They cut some off before
they know how long it will be."
Uncle Al
So these two Irishmen were stumbling down a dirt road, dead drunk,
puking and pissing themselves, and one rabbi says to the other
rabbi... "8^>)
Uncle Al
There's a key to the door. Sammy had it. It's a simple thing in
fact, accessable to anybody and everybody, making the rabbi say
"yes." Universally accessible, yes; commonly possessed, no. Jews
don't kneel before Yahweh - it would be offensive to both parties.
Uncle Al
Hence "goy" being perceived as derogatory by goyim for being true.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Its also an interesting debate within the Jewish community. Who is or
isn't a Jew. I don't know how carefully they keep genealogical records
(the Mormons are really into this stuff). So I can only wonder how
accurately they can make such a judgment.
A few years ago, I watched a program on PBS about a 'lost tribe' of
Israel in Africa. In order to establish a hereditary link, they tracked
a particular gene found only on the X chromosome (passed from male to
male) known to have descended from ancient Jewish lines. Although it
wasn't the subject of the study, the investigator noted that this gene
version was in fact very rare even among the Israeli population, most of
them being of European descent.
--
Paul Hovnanian pa...@hovnanian.com
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Procrastinators: The leaders for tomorrow.
Uncle Al
They discount the price before figuring the profit. In point of fact
no Jewish woman will touch anything that is not 10% off. How do you
cure a Jewish nymphomaniac? You marry her.
"Oh Mr. Christ, would you cross your ankles? We can resell the extra
spike."
Then, there is the secret stuff like becoming a diabetic rather than
an alcoholic from drinking kosher wine.
Salmon Egg
Hovnanian P.E." <pa...@seanet.com> wrote:
> A few years ago, I watched a program on PBS about a 'lost tribe' of
> Israel in Africa. In order to establish a hereditary link, they tracked
> a particular gene found only on the X chromosome (passed from male to
> male) known to have descended from ancient Jewish lines. Although it
> wasn't the subject of the study, the investigator noted that this gene
> version was in fact very rare even among the Israeli population, most of
> them being of European descent.
I have great difficulty believing this post. It may have been a typo
substituting "X" for "Y". But even if that was done, a person is defined as
Jewish if the MOTHER, not the father, is Jewish. Please explain.
Bill
Gordon
<nimby_N...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
>news:47634AFF...@hovnanian.com...
(snip)
>
>It is an interesting religion, however. You've gotta love a group that has a
>word for those who aren't Jewish (a "goy" is a non Jew).
>
An "Infidel" is a non-Muslim. What do other world religions call
those outside their structure?
John Popelish
Yes. Would have to be mitochondrial DNA that passes almost
exclusively from the mother.
--
Regards,
John Popelish
hanson
... [snipped here... see for it further down in the Longie]....
>
== the Quickie:
Al, you loosing your self-respect by you taking cyber refuge and
salvation in your ilk's collective behavior does not bode well
for any "Jewish Intelligence", neither yours nor theirs... ahahaha....
>
But, to your credit it must be said that you and your Hebrew ilk ,
with its self-aggrandized "Jewish intelligence", has been subscribing
to & hanging longer onto to the aberrant legacy of the sociopathy
of Abe, the Arab, the original self-circumciser & child abuser from
the criminal out-cast tribe of the Hamaru, who some 5768 years
ago, ( acc. to the current Jewish calendar ... probably on a Oct. 25,
during a Shabbat ... ahaha...) spawned the seeds of monotheism
that gave rise to Judaism, Xianity and Islam, whose sole & chief
raison d'etre seems to be to kill each other off, wholesale, in the
name of their respective irrational, godly-ungodly "spiritual"
oye-weh Yahweh-, huri-Allah- or jack-off Jehovah- delusions...
>
So, your only claim to fame of "Jewish Intelligence" that remains
is that the Xians & Ass-venters were even more "stooopid" then
your own Hebe-ilk... for having copied your abberations... hahaha...
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
== The Longie
Jewish Intelligence?... AHAHA... yeah, yeah... Priceless.. ahaha
Jewish Intelligence?... about which poster "Koolchicki" observed:
"Some of the African tribes have similar characteristics, don't they?
ahahaha... ahahaha... to which in classical AshkeNazi style....
>
"Uncle rect-Al" Schwartz <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> retorted in
message news:47632FB9...@hate.spam.net...
Snipped for brevity but fec-Al's entire unkosher thripe is here:
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/5f270bff4e2bee63>
>
[hanson]
You are really on a roll lately, Al, in/by you demonstrating "Jewish
intelligence" with advocating to murder half of the world's population:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e0ae5d311d0709cb
Then you, the Jew, attacks and denigrates the Catholics in
< http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/64888d4d27627d2d >
and continues to do so with the unabashed certainty of your "Jewish
intelligence" to surpass the intelligence of every physicist from
Newton to Einstein to the current ones, in
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d8099448a380b5c4 >
>
ahahahaha... rect-Al, the tone and content of your current fec-Al post
is reminiscent of the habit where Black derelicts do freely refer to each
other as "Nigger", "Hoe" and swear that "Black is beautiful", just like
when you said:
::rect-Al:: My Jews were kiting checks when your goyim were
::rect-Al:: still swinging from trees. Everybody knows this and
::rect-Al:: everybody fears it... Devout Jews were disgusting to
::rect-Al:: live near for all sorts of aesthetic, cultural, and
::rect-Al:: self-esteem issues
>
... ahahaha... Al, your unkosher farting of "Jewish intelligence"
here is just like the Black loudmouths who promote their pimps,
dealers and deadbeat dads... ahahaha... BUT since you, rect-Al,
are not black, but deeply loath the Afros, your post shows that
you certainly do not belong to the "gifted" but rather that you
have a "vergifted" mind... like your Hebe nephew-in-ilk does
demonstrate so beautifully and graphically in his video here:
< http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f > or in
< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O9W3UsdRyM >
>
ahahaha... this "Settler's " "Jewish Intelligence" is quite likely a
growth-product that came out of/from your pitiful "6 milliLiters"
which you sold for money & have bragged about, in your
stereotypical fashion, you full-well knowing with your inferiority
complex that the emission quantum of a normal average goyim
is as is this one here: < http://www.youporn.com/watch/16944>
or here into yentas < http://www.youporn.com/watch/40395 >
& here < http://www.youporn.com/watch/63545 >... or here
Blacky donating: < http://www.youporn.com/watch/34473 >
for Jewish causes... ahahahaha... AHAHHAHA.....
>
ahahaha... & now you finally know why the nurses laughed about
your 6 milliLiters.... ahahaha... and now having said that, you do
seek affirmation of "Jewish intelligence" by you referring to the
machinations of/by other members your own collective, you
bragging that:
>
::rect-Al:: ... the Manhattan Project had more Jews/m^2,...
::hanson:: (1) ALL of whom labored under Gen. L Groves, a goyim...
::rect-Al:: ... the Manhattan Project had more Jews/m^2...
::hanson:: (2) who where traitors to the US & spied for the Soviets...
::rect-Al:: ... the Manhattan Project had more Jews/m^2...
::hanson:: (3) who wrote loudmouthed, self-aggrandizing reports
::hanson:: based on the creative & innovative work of the US goyim..
::rect-Al::... had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi concentration camp. [1]
::hanson:: whose inmates where all directly supervised, controlled
::hanson:: and tormented by Kapos who were JEWS, .....
:: rect Al:: Kill off the bottom 90% & you have a Master Race remaining.
::hanson:: of which you, rect-Al Schwartz, likes to present yourself as
being a member thereof and it being an achievement & status of your
"Jewish intelligence" which bought you the grand "gift", at your age of 60,
of you being the proud driver of your 1989 Volkswagon Golf, about which
you, Schwartz, whined that it must last you for another 11 years... ahaha.
>
rect-AL, you are not only an embarrassment to the Jewish people but you
are one of those **idiots** who with their "Jewish Intelligence" work so
very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse into becoming a self-filling
prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before his demise in 45, in which
he said: **"in a 100 years from now the world will be grateful for what
I have started".**
>
rect-Al, listen: 62 down, 38 to go... yet here still, see how not only you
but other members of your own ilk do currently work so very hard at it:
< http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4667039539703585825&hl=en >
or just like poster "Offramp" who pasted a Jew aggrandizing link about
what a few Jews did 2 generations earlier from 1908 to 1938....ending
there abruptly... leading into what you, Al, enunciated above in [1], which.
indicates that you are full of shit with your Jew theory that only "90% of
the stupid Jews at the bottom" were killed....
>
IOW ... "Offramp's" & Schwartz's posts do certainly do invoke
Sid Snead's axiom that says
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that you are a Jew. I enjoy the clarity
::S:: of your writing, but will now have to treat your opinions as
::S:: suspect, since, you being a Jew, you believe that
::S:: what is good for Jews is more important than the truth."
>
Nevertheless, Al, to your credit I must admit that your opinions
are always engaging, entertaining and surrealistically funny.
Thanks for the laughs, Shalom!... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
Androcles
"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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: Androcles wrote:
: >
: > "Offramp" <alane...@gmail.com> wrote in message
: >
news:3a6c878d-07b8-4138...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
: > : Just today I read this very good article
: > http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/jews.html
: > : about Jews in chess. Worth a look.
: >
: > I have no doubt jews are as intelligent as most gentiles and
: > homo neanderthalensis. Cross breeding with gorilla gorilla
: > and then inbreeding doesn't change it much, if at all.
: > Aren't they the silly bastards the borrowed "the one god"
: > concept from the Egyptian "Ra" and dumped their religious
: > crap on the rest of the world?
: > Computers play better chess than most jews and are
: > not religious either.
:
: Hence "goy"
[snip crap]
That stooopid arsehole you worship was a jew.
No aether. No time dilation either.
No fucking aether. No fucking time dilation either.
NO FUCKIN' AETHER. NO FUCKIN' TIME DILATION.
NO FUCKING AETHER, DUMBFUCK!
NO FUCKING TIME DILATION, FUCKHEAD!
"BTW, you fuck-faced neanderthal, (c+v) appears nowhere in the paper, nor
could it. Hey Schwartzshit, you are an ineducable idiot. Your high
school should be levelled and replaced by an abandoned bowling alley."
Ken S. Tucker
> John Larkin wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:40:16 -0500, Phil Hobbs
> > <pcdhSpamMeSensel...@pergamos.net> wrote:
>
> > >BobW wrote:
> > >>news:47634AFF...@hovnanian.com...
> > >>> BobW wrote:
> > >>>> "John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
> > >>>> message
> > >>>>news:7oc6m31634ldih52l...@4ax.com...
>
> > >>>> [snip the bs]
>
> > >>>>>> If you don't have the key the door remains closed. We don't want
> > >>>>>> you. You cannot buy your way in, you cannot cheat. Go in, go back.
> > >>>>>> The rabbi will say "no."
> > >>>>> You can't convert to being Irish, either. Eat your heart out, dude.
>
> > >>>>> John
>
> > >>>> So, why did they (whoever *they* are) allow Sammy Davis Jr. to become
> > >>>> Jewish? That dog don't hunt!
> > >>> Whoopie Goldberg?
>
> > >>> The stories about the purity of the Jewish lineage are overblown, IMO.
> > >>> I've known a number of people who converted. It all depends on finding
> > >>> the right rabbi and convincing him of the sincerity of your faith. Once
> > >>> you're in, or maybe a couple of generations later, who's going to
> > >>> question your status?
>
> > >>> --
I was hired by a guy that claimed to be Jewish,
and I respected him a lot. One day he brings in
a rabbi to meet with me...he's the type of fella I'd
enjoy having a tea, coffee or even a beer with.
So we talk for a while and he finishes and goes
into the "bosses" office then leaves.
Then the "boss" comes out and tell's me i should
become Jewish, (that's not the 1st time).
I have absolutely NO idea what these fella's are
blabbering about...is that like turning a white guy
into a negro, in my case, creating an atheist Jew.
I have no objection to people wearing a beany and
running around the neighbourhood with no pants on,
indeed, I'd run with them....good idea, I'm gonna
get a beany and express my naked freedom by
becoming Jewish, and I'll betcha there's a Jewish
lawyer who defend my habit.
Nudely Yours
Ken
Androcles
"ChairmanOfTheBored" <RUB...@crackasmile.org> wrote in message
news:rng8m3d5p5bj2oho7...@4ax.com...
: On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:45:27 GMT, "Androcles"
: <Engi...@hogwarts.physics_a> wrote:
:
: >
: >"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
:
: Dark matter exists, you retarded fuck.
Prove it, you moronic fucking bastard.
Ken S. Tucker
wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:26:38 -0800 (PST), "Ken S. Tucker"
>
> <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote:
> >..good idea, I'm gonna
> >get a beany and express my naked freedom by
> >becoming Jewish, and I'll betcha there's a Jewish
> >lawyer who defend my habit.
>
> >Nudely Yours
> >Ken
>
Well at least one SOB knows that!
Now you now why I ain't qualified to be Jewish!
Ken
BTW, that's what I figured too.
Patok
>
> Then, there is the secret stuff like becoming a diabetic rather than
> an alcoholic from drinking kosher wine.
>
with a Jewish friend and don't remember it being sweet (it was actually
quite good, definitely not sweet).
news.individual.net
sci.electronics.design, RUB...@crackasmile.org says...
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:45:27 GMT, "Androcles"
> <Engi...@hogwarts.physics_a> wrote:
>
> >
--
Keith
krw
RUB...@crackasmile.org says...
Ok, idiot.
> This (dark matter) is a scientific reference. Big difference. I
> wouldn't expect a retarded fuck like you to get it, however.
Nah, you're always the same; wrong.
--
Keith
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Maybe I misunderstood the program. I'm not a genealogist. Anyway, you
are right about the X vs Y thing. The male chromosome is the Y.
I don't know how anyone can trace heredity through the X chromosome,
since bits of that could come from either the father or the mother.
Aside from accurate genealogical data (which has never been recorded
carefully back very far), you sort of have to take someone's word for
it. When the Jews were the big bankers in Europe, it wouldn't surprise
me if a lot of women changed their name to Goldstein when a Rothschild
heir was looking for a wife.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam. (Translation from Latin: "I have a catapult. Give me
all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.")
Clifford Heath
> I don't know how anyone can trace heredity through the X chromosome,
> since bits of that could come from either the father or the mother.
You don't - you use the mitochondrial DNA, which isn't on any chromosome,
doesn't do meiosis like chromosomal DNA, and isn't in the nucleus, so you
only get it from your mother.
Clifford Heath.
Androcles
: On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:51:11 -0500, news.individual.net <k...@att.bizzzzz>
: wrote:
:
: >In article <rng8m3d5p5bj2oho7...@4ax.com>,
: That was Darkmattr. One word, idiot.
:
: This (dark matter) is a scientific reference.
He's got you pegged accurately, Chairman of the Imbeciles
and Retarded Cunts.
It's time I dumped you.
*plonk*
The Grammer Genious
>
> My Jews were kiting checks when your goyim were still swinging from
> trees. <...>
So were my Jews, and almost everybody else's.
And the ancestors of YOUR Cossack ancestors were swinging from the trees,
too.
Benj
> Project had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi concentration camp.
> [snip]
Gosh, you find pride in the creation of much more efficient ways to do
murder? Moses would be proud! Oh wait, I remember, he got so pissed at
Jewish behavior he smashed the tablets from G-d!
> They weren't hired for diversity, bubbula. Kill off the bottom 90%
> and you have a Master Race remaining.
You sure have a fascination with Nazi political science! I guess I
can understand that the Aryan or Semite race really makes little
difference so long as SOMEBODY is in charge and worshiped as the
"master race"!
> If you don't have the key the door remains closed. We don't want
> you. You cannot buy your way in, you cannot cheat. Go in, go back.
> The rabbi will say "no."
Lessee. I get it. You are saying all those Hitlerian theories about
Jews being a "race" rather than a religion actually are true science
fact! I'd love to hear you use your massive vocabulary to expound
further upon these well-established ideas. I know some Germans who'd
love to hear it too.
krw
sci.electronics.design, gord...@DELETEswbell.net says...
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:17:44 -0800, "BobW"
> <nimby_N...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
> >news:47634AFF...@hovnanian.com...
> (snip)
> >
> >It is an interesting religion, however. You've gotta love a group that has a
> >word for those who aren't Jewish (a "goy" is a non Jew).
> >
> An "Infidel" is a non-Muslim. What do other world religions call
> those outside their structure?
I thought "infidel" was supposed to be a non-believer. Did you
rewrite this part of the Koran too?
--
Keith
Androcles
"The Last Mimsy" <mi...@TheOtherSideoftheLookingGlass.org> wrote in message
news:bouam3dfg4j5m4s4e...@4ax.com...
: On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:41:05 GMT, "Androcles"
: <Engi...@hogwarts.physics_a> wrote:
:
: >He's got you pegged accurately, Chairman of the Imbeciles
: >and Retarded Cunts.
: >It's time I dumped you.
: >*plonk*
: >
: You're a goddamned idiot. "Hogwarts" wouldn't have a dumbfuck like
: you.
goddamned? What's that, some religious crap you believe in?
Fucking yankee imbecile.
krw
sci.electronics.design, Engi...@hogwarts.physics_a says...
Your killfile has been subverted by another of Dimbulb's sock-
puppets. If your newsreader can kill based on header info,
killfile "NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.197.145.117" or be forever
bombarded by Dimmie's mommy's dirty laundry.
--
Keith
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
That makes sense. It may also explain the small size of the ethnic
population. Since surnames are passed down from father to son, its
pretty easy to slip females into a family.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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Rube Goldberg is alive and working for Microsoft.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
The Jews actually have a pretty good strategy for maintaining the
quality of their membership. Supposedly, it was about 'the race', but in
reality, if you were smart, you were admitted to the club. The slow ones
were left behind whenever the locals initiated a pogrom.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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Sleep is for wimps. Happy, healthy, well-rested wimps, but wimps
nonetheless.
Androcles
"krw" <k...@att.bizzzzz> wrote in message
news:MPG.21cf4c85e...@news.individual.net...
: In article <S3f9j.53067$kt3....@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Thanks Keith, I know that. I suppose even imbeciles have to
amuse themselves, however pathetically.
Androcles
"StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt" <Zarat...@thusspoke.org> wrote in message
news:kgbbm35t48bvj7ukg...@4ax.com...
: On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:37:32 GMT, "Androcles"
: <Engi...@hogwarts.physics_a> wrote:
:
: >
: >"krw" <k...@att.bizzzzz> wrote in message
: Right. And digging up the horseshit you spew in the physics group all
: these years is a fine example of an imbecile amusing itself, and
: attempting to amuse others.
Jealous, arsehole? No need to answer, of course you are.
Jeff Liebermann
>Clifford Heath wrote:
>>
>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
>> > I don't know how anyone can trace heredity through the X chromosome,
>> > since bits of that could come from either the father or the mother.
>>
>> You don't - you use the mitochondrial DNA, which isn't on any chromosome,
>> doesn't do meiosis like chromosomal DNA, and isn't in the nucleus, so you
>> only get it from your mother.
>That makes sense. It may also explain the small size of the ethnic
>population. Since surnames are passed down from father to son, its
>pretty easy to slip females into a family.
There's a bit more to it than just heredity. Jewish women tend to be
more academically and professionally inclined than their gentile
counterparts. The result is fewer kids:
<http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/jews-and-jewish-birthrate.htm>
I also saw the TV show on the Jews of Africa. That's just one of many
odd parts of the world where Jews have take root.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_in_Japan>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Jews>
etc.
--
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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Tom Potter
> "nowarforisrael.com" wrote:
>>
>> Jewish Intelligence
>>
>> August 19. 2007
>>
>> Jewish intelligence has become a hot topic following the publication
>> of a paper by Greg Cochran and Henry Harpending in The Journal of
>> Biological Science.
>
> My Jews were kiting checks when your goyim were still swinging from
> Pale of Settlement average 2/3 sigma above average European IQs. That
> makes no significant difference amidst the lumpen proletariate. When
> we get to six sigmas above the mean Profoundly Gifted... the Manhattan
> Project had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi concentration camp.
> [snip]
>
> and you have a Master Race remaining.
"Uncle Al" makes a good point when he demonstrates that
Jews have used their media presence and their propensity to bullshit
and editorialize on the truth to promote all kinds of Urban Legends.
The best way to evaluate folks is on the basis of their works.
If one takes a close look at the works of Jews,
one finds that they:
1. Have come into conflict with all of their neighbors throughout history.
2. Have been active in instigating numerous conflicts and wars,
such as the Spanish-American War, the Class Wars of the 1900's,
the Religious Wars of the 2000's, America's Urban Rebellion of the 1960's,
and many European wars.
3. Have been active in promoting and profiting from
slavery, wars they instigate, pornography, booze, dope,
and prostitution, and exploiting the temporary miseries of folks
during times of conflict, war, and famine.
4. Have a long history of bribing and intimidating national leaders
to gain fortune and favors at the expense of the
host nation.
54. Have input vast amounts of babble into cultures,
such as the three Western Religions, Freudism,
numerous fortune tellers such as Joseph, Moses, Daniel,
Jesus, Nostrodamus, etc.
Also note how time, money and minds have been
wasted on General Relativity, a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds on such
pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves,
rubber rulers and clocks, and the
birth and death of the universe.
After Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
And here we are, 100 years after General Relativity
and it continues to generate more hype and heat
than light and advances.
5. Jews have a long history of ripping off the good works of folks
and promoting the Urban Legend that Jews were responsible
for the works. For example, many people,
has been brainwashed to give Jews credit for
"The eradication of polio." although
John Enders is the person responsible for the
development of the polio vaccines, as he was the first
to isolate and culture the virus outside of a nerve cell,
and he received the Nobel Prize for this work.
What Salk did was kill Enders virus'
by soaking in formaldehyde for a couple of weeks.
The fact of the matter is that
Salk and Sabin had better press agents than Enders,
and they moved quickly to exploited John Enders work,
in order to profit with fame and money,
at the expense of many children who caught polio
because of their rush to capitalize on Enders work.
Also note that Jews claim credit for the movies although
Thomas Edison not only invented both recorded sound and
moving pictures, and made many movies in his New Jersey studios,
before he was ripped off by Jews who infringed on his patents.
(And pissed off Edison and his friend Henry Ford.)
And note that General Relativity was a rip-off of the works
of the stress analysis gurus of the late 1800's, and Einstein
took the idea (Stress and strains), the methods (Tensors) of the gurus
and applied them wrongly to the larger universe.
(GTR is an auguring system that cannot account for
sentient beings inside the model.)
I suggest that if one wants to see how superior Jews are,
compare the cultural achievements of their neighbors,
Egyptians, Greeks, Persians, Phoenicians, Romans
to their ancient works, and compare their
modern cultural contributions to those of
the "bottom 90%" that Uncle Al would "kill off",
folks as Sade, Nat King Cole, Louie Armstrong,
Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, etc.
American Indians gave us corn, potatoes, chocolate, peppers, etc.,
Blacks have given us the best in music and sports,
southern Euporeans have given us the best in
art, philosophy, law, and social structure,
northern Europeans have given us the best in
science and engineering, and Asians have given us
the best in philosophy and perhaps maths.
Of course, Jews have made a great contribution
to music. That "Have a Tequila" song is pretty good,
and of course, God Bless America
***Words and music by Irving Berlin***
is also good,
even though it was popular
for many years in England as "God Save the King"
before Berlin copyrighted
the ***music*** to it in America.
It would interesting to see Uncle Al's "Master Race"
isolated in their own nation producing
their own food, shelter, clothing, music, art, sports, etc.
That would be some kind of a hell hole.
--
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> "Offramp" <alaneobr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> : Just today I read this very good articlehttp://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/jews.html
Ian Parker
> "Uncle Al" <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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I find it disappointing that intelligent people should be producing
such antiisemetic views. The Jews are no more manipulating things than
anyone else.
In 1919 Eddingto proclaimed Einstein as the greatest scientist in the
world. This was after the 1919 eclipse of the Sun where General
Relativity was established experimentally. It did not stop him from
being kicked out the country some years later.
The responsibility for WW1 and losing it was firmly that of the Kaiser
and the military clique that surrounded him. The Nazis made the Jews
the scapegoats. Horrible though this must sound the Holocaust actually
shortened the war. The Jews who could have made a contribution to the
war effort did not. Indeed many "fought" on the other side.
If you are a Jew you feel it encumberant on yourself to develop your
intellect to the maximum extent. This is so both in Israel and in the
Diaspora. There is no conspiracy in this. Work hard and you get to the
top. This is open to everyone, Jew, German or Arab.
Israel punches above her weight in terms of science. The Arab world by
contrast produces very little. The Arabs would gain a lot if instead
of bellicose rhetoric, rockets and suicide bombings they had a
constructive dialogue. I recently visited Damascus. The fountains were
dry (hence the change of subject I have chosen). To fill then you
would need desalination and solar power. Israel produces membranes
that are second to none. The Arab world too should try to produce
constructive solutions for their problems, learn more svience, write
more papers.
Incidentally on a lot of maps there is just Palestine - you have to
look to a country that isn't on the map.
BTW - I trust that the blame for Iraq will be placed firmly on the
Shrub and his associates and no minority group should be blamed.
- Ian Parker
Patok
>
> I suggest that if one wants to see how superior Jews are,
> compare the cultural achievements of their neighbors,
> Egyptians, Greeks, Persians, Phoenicians, Romans
> to their ancient works, and compare their
> modern cultural contributions to those of
> the "bottom 90%" that Uncle Al would "kill off",
> folks as Sade, Nat King Cole, Louie Armstrong,
> Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, etc.
>
Why would killing off the last two on the above list be a bad
thing? What kind of 'cultural' contributions did they make?
Josh Hill
wrote:
What an idiot.
--
Josh
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony
Lester Zick
wrote:
Which one? Neither seems to have contributed one hemi-demi-semi quaver
to the advancement of science and civilization as those they complain
about. And while I don't discount all their arguments, they seem to
have overlooked various manifest contributions of Western Europeans,
Russians, Asians and tribalized societies everywhere to human misery.
But it seems they'd rather bitch about it than fix it.
~v~~
Josh Hill
Heh. At least Uncle Al didn't confuse the music to "God Bless America"
with that of "God Save the King."
War Office
Jewish intelligence is a fallacy promoted through the jew controlled
media because before WW2 the jews were known throughout Europe as an
uncreative and uninnovate group of people who needed to organise like
a criminal mafia in order to get ahead. Still to this day the jewish
group promote each other through neoptism.
Intelligent people don't need to lie. Jews are the most prolific liars
of any social group.
Further jews are a mixed bunch of people. There is no genetic
distinction. Most jews didn't even come from Jerusalem but from Khazar
- fake jews.
On 14 dez, 19:53, "nowarforisrael.com" <gfhdtr6yd...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> Jewish Intelligence
>
> August 19. 2007
>
> Jewish intelligence has become a hot topic following the publication
> of a paper by Greg Cochran and Henry Harpending in The Journal of
> Biological Science. Charles Murray weighed in with an article in
> Commentary (Jewish Genius, April, 2007). Murray's theory is quite a
> bit like the one I published in my 1994 book, A People That Shall
> Dwell Alone (Ch. 7). I discussed eugenic events such as the Babylonian
> exile in which the elite Israelites were relocated to Babylon and
> refused to intermarry with those left behind when they returned (as
> graphically recounted in the Books of Ezra and Nehemiah). I also
> described a great deal of discrimination against the illiterate in the
> ancient world, with the effect that such people were excluded from the
> Jewish community. Marriage to such a person was especially abhorrent.
> And I recounted the history of Jewish education and Jewish
> idealization of the scholar, including especially the practice of
> wealthy Jews marrying their daughters to scholars and providing them
> with business opportunities. Because wealth was correlated with
> reproductive success in traditional societies, this had the effect of
> eugenic selection for intelligence. All of these practices originated
> in the ancient world and are well attested among both Ashkenazi and
> Sephardic populations in later centuries.
>
> The argument of Cochran and Harpending depends on Ashkenazi
> uniqueness. Their major contribution is to elaborate evidence that
> Ashkenazi intelligence is linked to mutations associated with brain
> metabolism and to certain Jewish genetic diseases (e.g., Tay-Sachs
> disease). I certainly do not want to deny that there is some unique
> genetic basis for Ashkenazi IQ. Indeed, I described the evidence
> available as of 1994 on Ashkenazi CNS mutations linked to brain
> metabolism in A People That Shall Dwell Alone (Ch.2):
>
> Eldridge (1970; see also Eldridge & Koerber 1977) suggests that a
> gene causing primary torsion dystonia, which occurs at high levels
> among Ashkenazi Jews, may have a heterozygote advantage because of
> beneficial effects on intelligence. Further supporting the importance
> of selective processes, eight of the 11 genetic diseases found
> predominantly among Ashkenazi Jews involve the central nervous system,
> and three are closely related in their biochemical effects (see
> Goodman 1979, 463). [Further,] Motulsky (1977a) suggests that the
> higher incidence of myopia in Ashkenazi Jewish populations could be
> the result of selection for higher verbal intelligence. Myopia and
> intelligence have been linked in other populations, and Jews tend to
> have higher intelligence and higher rates of myopia.
> Eldridge, R. (1970). The torsion dystonias: Literature review and
> genetic and clinical studies. Neurology 20:1-78.
> Eldridge, & T. Koerber (1979). Torsion dystonia: Autosomal
> recessive form. In Genetic Diseases among Ashkenazi Jews, ed. R. M.
> Goodman & A. G. Motulsky. New York: Raven Press.
> Motulsky, A. G. (1979a). Possible selective effects of
> urbanization on Ashkenazi Jews. In Genetic Diseases Among Ashkenazi
> Jews, ed. R. M. Goodman & A. G. Motulsky. New York: Raven Press.
>
> Cochran and Harpending base their argument of Ashkenazi uniqueness on
> their belief that Jews did not have a reputation of being smart in the
> ancient world. However, if you look at Jewish religious writings, such
> as the Mishnah (2nd century AD) and the Talmuds (4th and 6th century),
> their elites were at a very high level. And it should be remembered
> that until the Enlightenment, the vast majority of Jewish scholarship
> was directed within the Jewish community, rather than at science or
> philosophy. As a result, Jewish intelligence may not have been
> apparent to non-Jews. In the ancient world, Jewish education was the
> norm and the system where scholars benefited with advantageous
> marriages was already in place. And in any case, the historical record
> supports the idea that Jews were quite successful economically in the
> ancient world. After the failed rebellions against the Romans during
> the 1st and 2nd century, Jews achieved a very prominent economic
> position in the Roman Empire and dominated some industries, so the
> familiar pattern of Jews as an elite group was well underway at that
> time. Consider, for example, the following passage from Separation and
> Its Discontents:
>
> Bachrach (1985) suggested that the Jews were so wealthy, powerful,
> and aggressive that until around the middle of the 5th century the
> government viewed a strong anti-Jewish policy as not politically
> viable, even though it was continually being pressured in this
> direction by the Church. The rather limited anti-Jewish actions of the
> government during the 150 years following the Edict of Toleration of
> 313 are interpreted "as attempts to protect Christians from a
> vigorous, powerful, and often aggressive Jewish gens" (Bachrach 1985,
> 408). The Jews themselves were perceived by the emperors, the
> government, and the Church fathers as "an aggressive, well-organized,
> wealthy, and powerful minority" (p. 408). Particularly revealing are
> the suggestion that the solvency of the municipalities depended on
> Jews paying their taxes and the fear that offending the Jews could set
> off widespread and costly revolts, such as the one led by Patricius in
> 351.
> Bachrach, B. S. (1985). The Jewish community in the Later Roman
> Empire as seen in the Codex Theodosianus. In "To See Ourselves as
> Others See Us": Christians, Jews, "Others" in Late Antiquity, ed. J.
> Neusner & E. S. Frerichs. Chico, CA: Scholars Press.
>
> In short, Jews in the ancient world had all of the characteristics
> associated with later Ashkenazi populations: Economic preeminence, an
> occupational profile emphasizing business, finance, trading, and
> manufacturing, high levels of education, and a scholarly elite
> producing complex, religious writing. Scholarship was an excellent
> means to achieve upward mobility and presumably greater than average
> reproductive success.
>
> These traits also characterized the Sephardim. I agree with Murray on
> the Sephardim because of the complete dominance of Spain by the New
> Christians (economic, political, and intellectual) after the
> "conversions" of the early 15th century. This group remained
> influential in Amsterdam and elsewhere, but they gradually lost their
> grip in Spain because of the Inquisition. They became separated from
> the wider Jewish community--mainly the lower classes of Jewish society--
> after the expulsion of 1492. This was a dysgenic event for that group,
> and their descendants do not seem especially accomplished. This is a
> passage from Ch. 7 of A People that Shall Dwell Alone:
>
> Jews who continued to practice Judaism in Spain during the 15th
> century and were subsequently expelled in 1492 were less educated and
> less economically successful than their Converso brethren who remained
> to endure the wrath of the Inquisition. In this case, the less wealthy
> Jews certainly suffered fewer casualties and eventually were able to
> emigrate to North Africa or the Levant. Eventually, the Levantine
> Sephardim underwent a distinct atrophy of their culture..., while the
> descendants of the Conversos continued their highly elite and
> exclusivist profile on the international economic scene. When these
> Levantine Sephardim immigrated to the United States in the 20th
> century, they exhibited much higher rates of illiteracy, alcoholism,
> prostitution, and wife abandonment than did the Ashkenazim (Sachar
> 1992, 338). While the Ashkenazim were quickly upwardly mobile in
> American society, the Sephardim achieved only "a modest economic
> foothold" and were more likely to engage in lower-status occupations
> (Sachar 1992, 340).
>
> My view is that the Jewish population of Spain had all the
> characteristics of Ashkenazi populations, including the emphasis on
> Jewish scholarship and favorable marriages for scholars. The Conversos
> were at least as accomplished as Ashkenazi groups and dominated Spain
> at least until the Inquisition and even for quite a while thereafter.
> The section on the ups and downs of Jews in the Muslim world is here:
>
> http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/OrientalJewsIQ.htm
>
> The argument emphasizes the pattern of lower Sephardic IQ than for
> Ashkenazi populations within Israel. Nevertheless, it also notes that
> in general Jewish populations had higher intelligence and achievement
> in Arab societies when they were politically allowed to prosper.
> Perhaps the accomplishments of the Levantine Sephardim during some
> periods were facilitated because of the low average IQ of the peoples
> they lived among. In other words, they were highly capable compared to
> the native populations. There seems to be good evidence that the
> decline of the Levantine Sephardim was due at least partly to anti-
> Jewish actions.
>
> Anthropologist Peter Frost has proposed a variation on the theme of
> Cochran and Harpending. Frost emphasizes the shift to early marriage,
> especially by "semi-rural artisans who produced on contract for urban
> merchants and who could ably exploit these larger, more elastic
> markets. . . . Their workforce was their household. In more successful
> households, the workers would marry earlier and have as many children
> as possible. In less successful ones, they would postpone marriage, or
> never marry."
>
> This theory also demands Ashkenazi uniqueness, which is at least
> questionable given the above. The cottage industry niche was a fairly
> short-lived phenomenon, so a more formal argument would have to be
> made involving the power of selection among Jewish artisan families
> and between Jews and non-Jews. Frost's proposal reminds us that the
> stereotype of Jews as financiers, money lenders, merchants, and
> traders can be overdone. Indeed, the general pattern was for Jews to
> be involved in vertically integrated business and trading
> arrangements. For example, in Poland by the end of the 18th century,
> Jews dominated almost all areas of trading, manufacturing, and estate
> managing, and they had become dominant among the artisans ...
>
> mais »
Tom Potter
"Josh Hill" <usere...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It is interesting to see that "Josh Hill"
called Uncle Al an "Idiot" for posting
the racist propaganda below.
Quote
======================
"My Jews were kiting checks when your goyim were still swinging from
trees. Everybody knows this and everybody fears it. Jews from the
Pale of Settlement average 2/3 sigma above average European IQs. That
makes no significant difference amidst the lumpen proletariate. When
we get to six sigmas above the mean Profoundly Gifted... the Manhattan
Project had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi concentration camp.
[snip]
They weren't hired for diversity, bubbula. Kill off the bottom 90%
and you have a Master Race remaining."
===============
Unquote
As can be seen from his post,
it may be that Uncle Al was ignorant of the facts that:
1. Almost all of the creative and useful work on the Manhattan Project
was accomplished by non-Jews such as General Grove,
Edward Lawrence, Enrico Fermi, John Dunning, Eugene Booth
and the scientists and engineers at Oak Ridge and Hanford
who designed and constructed the systems to refine
materials that could be made into a nuclear bomb.
2. That General Grove and the American Military
understood that Jews had massacred the Russian Royal Family,
co-opted the Russian government.
were using Russia as a base form where to instigate
Class Wars all over the world in an effort to
implement their psychotic fantasy that they
were the "Master Race" and should dominate the world.
3. That General Groves did not allow many Jews
such as Einstein and Salizard
to participate in the development of the atomic bomb
because they might betray America
to the Jews who controlled the Russian government.
4. That General Groves and high level government officials
made an effort to deal with the problem of possible untrustworthy Jews
by isolating them in a remote location ( Los Alamos )
where they could be watched and controlled,
and assigned them the nasty job of
designing and testing the trigger for the atomic bomb.
5. That the best trigger design was the shaped charge approach
promoted by a non-Jew explosive technician,
who was ignored and trivialized for many months.
Almost all of the time spent by Jews was wasted on the "cannon" approach,
rather than on the "shaped charge approach".
If anyone wants to know the TRUE history about the development
of the atomic bomb, I suggest that they visit web sites that
provide historical information, rather than assigning value
to the unsubstantiated comments motivated by race and religion.
http://www.mphpa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=287&Itemid=201
It is interesting to see that the Los Alamos group leader
Robert Oppenheimer gets a lot of undeserved credit for his
role in the creation of the bomb,
perhaps because of his being hyped by the Jewish media presence,
and perhaps because of his pretentious, ***erroneous***
quote from the Bhagavad-Gita
"I am become death, destroyer of worlds."
I suggest that "Josh Hill" should not call Uncle Al or anyone an "idiot",
because BIGOTS attack messengers with personal attacks,
whereas rational, intelligent, MORAL folks address messages.
I don't think "Josh Hill" would like folks
to think that he is a bigot.
The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."
--
Tom Potter
http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
Ian Parker
> "Uncle Al" <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
>
> news:47632FB9...@hate.spam.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "nowarforisrael.com" wrote:
>
> >> Jewish Intelligence
>
> >> August 19. 2007
>
> >> Jewish intelligence has become a hot topic following the publication
> >> of a paper by Greg Cochran and Henry Harpending in The Journal of
> >> Biological Science.
>
> > My Jews were kiting checks when your goyim were still swinging from
> > trees. Everybody knows this and everybody fears it. Jews from the
> > Pale of Settlement average 2/3 sigma above average European IQs. That
> > makes no significant difference amidst the lumpen proletariate. When
> > we get to six sigmas above the mean Profoundly Gifted... the Manhattan
> > Project had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi concentration camp.
> > [snip]
>
> > They weren't hired for diversity, bubbula. Kill off the bottom 90%
> > and you have a Master Race remaining.
>
> "Uncle Al" makes a good point when he demonstrates that
> Jews have used their media presence and their propensity to bullshit
> and editorialize on the truth to promote all kinds of Urban Legends.
>
> The best way to evaluate folks is on the basis of their works.
>
> If one takes a close look at the works of Jews,
> one finds that they:
>
> 1. Have come into conflict with all of their neighbors throughout history.
Their neighbours should use solar power, desalinate the Mediterranean
and fill the fountains of Damascus. Israel would help them to do this
if they would only come in peace. The Jews have a far greater
scientific productivity than the Arabs, and the gap is so great that
it causes resentment. The problem however in in the Arab world not in
Israel. I would like to know what the standard of Science is at
Damascus, and why people do not wish to study it to a high level. THAT
IS THE PROBLEM WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING OURSELVES TO.
>
> 2. Have been active in instigating numerous conflicts and wars,
> such as the Spanish-American War, the Class Wars of the 1900's,
> the Religious Wars of the 2000's, America's Urban Rebellion of the 1960's,
> and many European wars.
Spanish American war - total rubbish. Class wars ditto. The religious
conflicts of 2000's are at the door of Al Qaeda. AQ feeds on
resentment and a sense of inferiority + the fact the Reagan (a non
Jew) supported OBL in the Afghan/Soviet war.
European wars. WW1 was caused by the Kaiser and the military clique
surrounding him. The defeat in 1918 was due to those people. Hitler
and his clique pumped out a string of lies - you seem to have
swallowed them wholesale. The basic fact was that the Germans did not
accept the obvious, or what is obvious to me and everyone else.
>
> 3. Have been active in promoting and profiting from
> slavery, wars they instigate, pornography, booze, dope,
> and prostitution, and exploiting the temporary miseries of folks
> during times of conflict, war, and famine.
>
It is their neighbours that have promoted slavery. Rather more the
Gulf area rather than Lebanon, Syria, Egypt though. Prostitution (the
whore of Babylon) is the result of the invasion of Iraq, the totally
stupid way the US has handled it, and the string of refugees fleeing
the "new tyrants". The clerics of Iraq.
> 4. Have a long history of bribing and intimidating national leaders
> to gain fortune and favors at the expense of the
> host nation.
>
Rubbish. The Jews learn, work and earn.
> 54. Have input vast amounts of babble into cultures,
> such as the three Western Religions, Freudism,
> numerous fortune tellers such as Joseph, Moses, Daniel,
> Jesus, Nostrodamus, etc.
>
> Also note how time, money and minds have been
> wasted on General Relativity, a Tower of Babel
> that wastes time, money and minds on such
> pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves,
> rubber rulers and clocks, and the
> birth and death of the universe.
>
It was the Nazis that did this and the CIA - the Central Idiocy Agency
swallowed whole the lies of such people as the "Black Sun".
> After Newton's model,
> there were immediate and rapid advances
> in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
>
> After Maxwell's model
> there were immediate and rapid advances
> in chemistry, electricity, etc.
>
> After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
> there were immediate and rapid advances
> in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
> the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
>
> And here we are, 100 years after General Relativity
> and it continues to generate more hype and heat
> than light and advances.
>
General Relativity is one of the best tested of all scientific
theories. Gravitational waves are given off by close pulsars which
lose energy.
Rest is just rubbish.
- Ian Parker
Tom Potter
"Ian Parker" <ianpa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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* Their neighbors should use solar power, desalinate the Mediterranean
* and fill the fountains of Damascus. Israel would help them to do this
* if they would only come in peace. The Jews have a far greater
* scientific productivity than the Arabs, and the gap is so great that
* it causes resentment.
What causes Israel neighbors to come into conflict
with Israel, is the same thing that caused ALL of the
neighbors of Jews to come into conflict with
Jews throughout history.
Jews are motivated by, in this order,
1. Race
2. Money
3. Power
4. Religion
and they do not subscribe to a fixed
set of moral values that apply to all of mankind.
Note for example, that they have always
rushed in to profit from the misery of other folks,
and when Nature did not create enough
misery for the other folks,
Jews were in there stirring the pot,
to generate misery they could profit from.
Witness, the Spanish-American War,
the Class Wars of the 1900's,
the Religious Wars of the 2000's,
Americas' Urban Rebellion of the 1960's,
and numerous European wars, and probably
Emperor Julian war against Persia that brought
down the Roman Empire.
Almost all of the charitable works of Jews
are effort to funnel money to relatives and Jews,
and when they do make a show that they are doing
something altruistic for all mankind,
such as the recent purchase of the Magna Carta,
you can pretty much bet that the Jew has a
long term interest in mind to profit from the scam.
How can Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran,
and the neighbors of Jews maintain an efficient society
when Jews are continually undermining their works,
and stealing their assets?
Note for example that Israel collects the taxes for
Palestine, and keep most of the money for themselves,
and the International Body responsible for
allocating the water in the world indicates
that Israel steals most of the Palestinian's water,
and owes them billion of dollars for the stolen water.
Jews are much like a cultural virus that weakens all
of the nations they penetrate, Egypt, Rome,
France, England, Spain, recently Germany and Russia,
and now America.
Josh Hill
wrote:
>
>"Josh Hill" <usere...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:838mm3p52flhsepak...@4ax.com...
>It is interesting to see that "Josh Hill"
>called Uncle Al an "Idiot" for posting
>the racist propaganda below.
It is perhaps even more interesting to know that, rather than calling
Uncle Al an idiot, I called you an idiot.
>Quote
>======================
>"My Jews were kiting checks when your goyim were still swinging from
>trees. Everybody knows this and everybody fears it. Jews from the
>Pale of Settlement average 2/3 sigma above average European IQs. That
>makes no significant difference amidst the lumpen proletariate. When
>we get to six sigmas above the mean Profoundly Gifted... the Manhattan
>Project had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi concentration camp.
>[snip]
>
>They weren't hired for diversity, bubbula. Kill off the bottom 90%
>and you have a Master Race remaining."
>===============
>Unquote
Uncle Al is correct. Recent research indicates that the range of IQ's
does not differ from that of gentiles, but that the distribution does.
>As can be seen from his post,
>it may be that Uncle Al was ignorant of the facts that:
>
>1. Almost all of the creative and useful work on the Manhattan Project
>was accomplished by non-Jews such as General Grove,
>Edward Lawrence, Enrico Fermi, John Dunning, Eugene Booth
>and the scientists and engineers at Oak Ridge and Hanford
>who designed and constructed the systems to refine
>materials that could be made into a nuclear bomb.
General Grove did creative work? Good one. All you've done is crossed
out the names of the Jews who did participate in the effort.
>2. That General Grove and the American Military
>understood that Jews had massacred the Russian Royal Family,
>co-opted the Russian government.
>were using Russia as a base form where to instigate
>Class Wars all over the world in an effort to
>implement their psychotic fantasy that they
>were the "Master Race" and should dominate the world.
Yeah, yeah, it's always the Jews. Never mind that the people who run
things are never actually Jews.
>3. That General Groves did not allow many Jews
>such as Einstein and Salizard
>to participate in the development of the atomic bomb
>because they might betray America
>to the Jews who controlled the Russian government.
Right, it's common knowledge that Einstein and "Salizard" (a cross
between a lizard and a salamander, I suppose), who had of course
gotten the whole thing started, betrayed it to the Russians.
>4. That General Groves and high level government officials
>made an effort to deal with the problem of possible untrustworthy Jews
>by isolating them in a remote location ( Los Alamos )
>where they could be watched and controlled,
>and assigned them the nasty job of
>designing and testing the trigger for the atomic bomb.
Unlike everyone else in the Manhattan project, who worked in a big
building in Times Square with a sign that said "We're building an
atomic bomb" on it.
>5. That the best trigger design was the shaped charge approach
>promoted by a non-Jew explosive technician,
>who was ignored and trivialized for many months.
>Almost all of the time spent by Jews was wasted on the "cannon" approach,
>rather than on the "shaped charge approach".
In other words, somebody who isn't Jewish comes up with something,
therefore Jews are bad.
>If anyone wants to know the TRUE history about the development
>of the atomic bomb, I suggest that they visit web sites that
>provide historical information, rather than assigning value
>to the unsubstantiated comments motivated by race and religion.
>
>http://www.mphpa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=287&Itemid=201
>
>It is interesting to see that the Los Alamos group leader
>Robert Oppenheimer gets a lot of undeserved credit for his
>role in the creation of the bomb,
>perhaps because of his being hyped by the Jewish media presence,
>and perhaps because of his pretentious, ***erroneous***
>quote from the Bhagavad-Gita
>"I am become death, destroyer of worlds."
Or perhaps it's because he happened to run the project, eh?
>I suggest that "Josh Hill" should not call Uncle Al or anyone an "idiot",
>because BIGOTS attack messengers with personal attacks,
>whereas rational, intelligent, MORAL folks address messages.
>
>I don't think "Josh Hill" would like folks
>to think that he is a bigot.
>
>The definition of "bigot" is:
>"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
>own."
You're right, I'm a bigot: I'm prejudiced against anti-Semites and the
vile half-witted hatred they spew.
Ian Parker
> "Ian Parker" <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Look Israel has no interest in misery. Israel is an arid land, like
others in the Middle East. Everyone is seeking ways of coping with an
arid environment. There is plenty of sunlight. In Britain where I come
from solar panels are a waste of time. In Damascus you could run your
air conditioning and eliminating summer peak loads would be
tremendously good news. For everyone. Solar power + desalination is to
me the key to aridity. For Israel, for Syria, for everyone in an arid
environment. This is what we should be talking about particulary in
sci.physics.
The history of the conflict is that Israel came into existence. The
early Jewish settlers were inclusive, they wanted the Arabs to live
with them and wanted to tackle the central problem - aridity. The Arab
states persuaded them to leave, Palestine was divided. We see constant
conflict up to the present day.
Israel is punitive in its actions in the West Bank, I will admit this.
But Isreal does not fire rockets into Arab countries, Isreal does not
send suicide bombers to Arab countries.
Some time in my past I did a management training course. It was
stressed in terms of human relations that often what people state is
the problem is not the real problem. To me the real problem stems from
the chasm in scientific accumplishment.
http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_60/iss_8/49_1.shtml
This article asks the central question. I feel that everyone should
read it before they comment further on Israel. If I recall the article
itself speaks about the growth in resentment. Mubarrak has set up a
research institute near Alexandria. There is to my knowledge nothing
in Syria, Lebanon or Jordan. If you were to drive Israel into the sea
those fountains would still be dry.
Is the problem religious - Adam, Eve and the Garden or is there a
deeper malaise? All this antisemitic talk will do absolutely nothing
to solve the problems of the Arab World. To me visiting Damascus for
the first time those fountains were symbolic. Symbolic of the problem
of aridity and the failure to pursue rational solutions.
"War Office" has talked about Jews being the principle liars. No sir,
the principal liars are the military and the Bush administration. Lies
about the WMD which Saddam Hussein had. Furthermore an understanding
of the "central problem" would have told the Shrub about the dangers
of getting rid of Saddam Hussein. He was replaced (de facto) by
clerics - New tyrants for old!
- Ian Parker
Claude Weil
>> wrote:
>
>3. That General Groves did not allow many Jews
>such as Einstein and Salizard
Did you by any chance mean Szilard? If so, you ought to read the
relevant literature.
As to General Leslie Groves, he made J. Robert Oppenheimer the offer
to head the Manhattan Project, which he accepted. And, of course, the
team's subsequent efforts were based on Einstein's e = mc^2.
Perhaps you also ignore that people with un-Jewish names such as André
Citroën, Amedeo Modigliani, Nils Bohr, Dorothy Parker, Walter
Winchell, Boris Spassky, and Bob Dylan were Jews -- if you know who
they all are.
CW
Jeff Liebermann
>Jewish intelligence is a fallacy promoted through the jew controlled
>media
Yep. We control Hollywood, media, banking, government, fashion, and
delicatessens. Actually, Jews are no more intelligent than the rest
of the population. The difference is that we do thinks, while the
others just sit on their posteriors and complain. A clue would be
that Jews are about 3% of the US population. However, the percentage
of Jewish professionals and famous technical talent is much higher.
>because before WW2 the jews were known throughout Europe as an
>uncreative and uninnovate group of people who needed to organise like
>a criminal mafia in order to get ahead.
Amazing. You mean that having the Jews relegated to living in a
ghetto constitutes "organization"? Kinda like a prison is an
organization of criminals? Right. We were "organized".
It's kinda difficult to be creative if the local governments refuse to
allow Jews in government, military, and professional positions. This
has been going on since the Romans, so it's nothing new. The amazing
thing is how creative and innovative Jews have been DESPITE the
limitations on education, guild membership, organizations, trade, and
social position. Also, despite the laws that applied only to Jews.
>Still to this day the jewish
>group promote each other through neoptism.
Damned right we do. I wouldn't have it any other way. Like father,
like son. Perhaps you prefer the truly fair method of having the
government tax the hell out of your estate when you die, so you can't
provide for the next generation?
>Intelligent people don't need to lie. Jews are the most prolific liars
>of any social group.
Everybody lies, but that's ok because nobody listens.
If you repeat a lie often enough, it magically becomes dogma and
eventually becomes established fact. Isn't the internet wonderful?
Have you tested Jews with a lie detector?
>Further jews are a mixed bunch of people.
Well yes. We don't exactly ascribe to the Arian philosophy of racial
purity. It may have been possible to be pure and not intermarry when
confined in a ghetto, but that's not practical these days.
>There is no genetic distinction.
Can I quote you on that? The standard anti-semitic dogma is that Jews
are racially different and therefore inferior in some way. It's good
to know that this is false.
> Most jews didn't even come from Jerusalem but from Khazar
>- fake jews.
Amazing. If you go back far enough, I suspect we are all descended
from plankton. I suspect your ancestors may have missed a few
evolutionary steps and evolved directly into bigotry, but that might
be impolite and difficult to prove. If it helps, I was born in
Munchen, Germany. My parents, and most ancestors I know about, came
from Krakow Poland. All of my male relatives were professionals of
some sort.
Androcles
"Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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: War Office <911fal...@gmail.com> hath wroth:
:
: >Jewish intelligence is a fallacy promoted through the jew controlled
: >media
:
: Yep. We control Hollywood, media, banking, government, fashion, and
: delicatessens. Actually, Jews are no more intelligent than the rest
: of the population.
50% of all Jews are below average intelligence, whereas
fully half of all Brits are above average intelligence.
Americans are somewhere in between, but they speak
a version of English that is almost decipherable.
: The difference is that we do thinks, while the
: others just sit on their posteriors and complain.
I thinks "thinks" is good, Anyone that can thinks
is probably thinksing.
: A clue would be
: that Jews are about 3% of the US population.
I's wouldn'ts knows. It's is muches lesses thanes 3% in Britains.
: However, the percentage
: of Jewish professionals and famous technical talent is much higher.
Daz's washes whiters, too.
Whiters than whats, I wonders. Whiters thans whites, perhapses?
Perhapses jewishes professionalsess ares MORES successfuls ons
Madison Avenues with theirs famous bullshits talents?
donald
> "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
> news:07erm39c17h83spkr...@4ax.com...
> : War Office <911fal...@gmail.com> hath wroth:
> :
> : >Jewish intelligence is a fallacy promoted through the jew controlled
> : >media
> :
> : Yep. We control Hollywood, media, banking, government, fashion, and
> : delicatessens. Actually, Jews are no more intelligent than the rest
> : of the population.
>
> 50% of all Jews are below average intelligence, whereas
Like Stalin and Hitler, some (most) people need an enemy that will be
regarded as an enemy without question.
Be keeping an enemy that has a history of being an enemy, it is easier
to keep the masses hating that enemy.
So whenever anyone says, 50% of all (PYFEM)* are below average
intelligence ......
Then the statment will always be true.
Where do these Yo-Yos come from.
donald
*( Pick Your Favorite Ethenic Minority )
Androcles
"donald" <Don...@dontdoithere.com> wrote in message
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: Androcles wrote:
:
: > "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
: > news:07erm39c17h83spkr...@4ax.com...
: > : War Office <911fal...@gmail.com> hath wroth:
: > :
: > : >Jewish intelligence is a fallacy promoted through the jew controlled
: > : >media
: > :
: > : Yep. We control Hollywood, media, banking, government, fashion, and
: > : delicatessens. Actually, Jews are no more intelligent than the rest
: > : of the population.
: >
: > 50% of all Jews are below average intelligence, whereas
:
: Like Stalin
too stupid to realise what "average" means, you moron.
*plonk*
Ah man
> War Office <911falsef...@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>
> >Jewish intelligence is a fallacy promoted through the jew controlled
> >media
>
> Yep. We control Hollywood, media, banking, government, fashion, and
> delicatessens. Actually, Jews are no more intelligent than the rest
> of the population. The difference is that we do thinks, while the
> others just sit on their posteriors and complain. A clue would be
> that Jews are about 3% of the US population. However, the percentage
> of Jewish professionals and famous technical talent is much higher.
>
> >because before WW2 the jews were known throughout Europe as an
> >uncreative and uninnovate group of people who needed to organise like
> >a criminal mafia in order to get ahead.
>
> Amazing. You mean that having the Jews relegated to living in a
> ghetto constitutes "organization"? Kinda like a prison is an
> organization of criminals? Right. We were "organized".
Yes that is exactly what I mean. Why do you think jews were organised
into ghettoes and banned from participating in commerce and
government? This was a trend all over Europe before Napolean liberated
them.
And I guess you'r not lying above about why Jews are over-represented
in America.
Its called Nepotism mate.
Look mate. I am not an anti-semite or whatever Stupid term you want to
sling at your adversary.
I am making th observation that some of your jewish groups have gone
too far. You realise 9/11 was a jew job right?
> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Josh Hill
Uh, right. This is why forex Jews make up 30% of the student body at
Yale.
>Look mate. I am not an anti-semite or whatever Stupid term you want to
>sling at your adversary.
Sure you aren't.
>I am making th observation that some of your jewish groups have gone
>too far. You realise 9/11 was a jew job right?
If anybody needed evidence that half the population is below average,
you've provided it.
Now kindly find a troll that doesn't identify you as an angry delivery
boy, OK?
Ah man
> Androcles wrote:
> > "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
> >news:07erm39c17h83spkr...@4ax.com...
> > :
> > : >Jewish intelligence is a fallacy promoted through the jew controlled
> > : >media
> > :
> > : Yep. We control Hollywood, media, banking, government, fashion, and
> > : delicatessens. Actually, Jews are no more intelligent than the rest
> > : of the population.
>
> > 50% of all Jews are below average intelligence, whereas
>
> Like Stalin and Hitler, some (most) people need an enemy that will be
> regarded as an enemy without question.
Yes and some people need leaders to keep the world view simple and
silly for them, like yourself.
Here you go mate, I hope you enjoy this, its going to break your soul
and crush your heart:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4583630379439989634
Ian Parker
> War Office <911falsef...@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>
> >Jewish intelligence is a fallacy promoted through the jew controlled
> >media
>
> Yep. We control Hollywood, media, banking, government, fashion, and
> delicatessens. Actually, Jews are no more intelligent than the rest
> of the population. The difference is that we do thinks, while the
> others just sit on their posteriors and complain. A clue would be
> that Jews are about 3% of the US population. However, the percentage
> of Jewish professionals and famous technical talent is much higher.
>
The Arabian camel is being kicked to get him off his backside as you
put it. He is a stubborn beast though. despite these competitions the
basic rate of immovation is abysmally low. As I have already said that
is where the problem lies. Has anyone any brilliant ideas.
BTW - I am not in fact a Jew.
- Ian Parker
Tom Potter
"Claude Weil" <cw...@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:nnqqm3ljk9di6n4p5...@4ax.com...
As can be seen,
these two clowns have been brainwashed
to think that Oppenheimer "head<ed> the Manhattan Project".
Although FDR had sold out to the gang
that assassinated the Russian Royal Family,
and co-opted the Russian government,
most political and military leaders in America
knew that the Jews who controlled the
Russian government were using Russia as a base from where to
instigate their Class Wars all over the globe,
and they took steps to prevent obviously disloyal Jews
like Einstein and Szilard from having access to America's military secrets,
and they dealt with the problem of untrustworthy Jews
by isolating them in a remote location ( Los Alamos )
where they could be watched and controlled,
and assigned them the nasty job of
designing and testing the trigger for the atomic bomb.
Almost all of the creative and useful work on the Manhattan Project
was accomplished by non-Jews such as General Grove,
Edward Lawrence, Enrico Fermi, John Dunning, Eugene Booth
and the scientists and engineers at Oak Ridge and Hanford
who designed and constructed the systems to refine
materials that could be made into a nuclear bomb.
Oppenheimer was in charge of the group isolated
Los Alamos and they jacked around for years
wasting time on the "cannon" approach,
when the "shaped charge" approach promoted
by a non-Jews was ignored and trivialized.
Little Boy used a bullet in the form of a 38 kilogram
hollow cylinder of uranium shot onto a 26 kilogram spike.
The "Fat Man" implosion design bomb used less
than a tenth the amount of Little Boy fissionable material
yet had a yield 25% higher,
indicating how much more efficient the implosion design is.
Considering the time and effort that Oppenheimer
had the team waste on the inferior "cannon" approach,
before he came around to the "shaped charge approach,
promoted by a non-Jew,
and considering his phony, pretentious comment
"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.",
one has to wonder just how competent a scientist
and manager he was.
It is interesting to see that Jews worked aggressively
in America and England to get a few leaders they controlled
to destroy Germany which had taken a stand against
the gang that was instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and now the offspring of the gang has done a 180 to the right,
bought themselves a few right-wing politicians,
and are trying to instigate the Religious Wars of the 1900's,
to get back in the chips as the loot from their Class Wars is almost gone.
Tom Potter
I would like to thank "Josh Hill" for registering as a racist bigot,
and for admitting that he called me an "idiot",
because he could not address the points I raised
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way.
To address "Josh Hill's" assertion
that I posted a lot of FACTS
(Spewed as he propagandized it.)
that made him nausea
( Vile as he put it)
and that the way I presented the FACTS
was half-witted (As he put it)
and projected hate (As he put it),
I am surprised to see that "Josh Hill"
allowed a few FACTS
presented in a half-witted way (As he put it)
by an idiot (As he put it),
get him all bent out of shape,
and compel him to
SPEW the standard boilerplate
vile, race motivated, half-witted hatred,
commonly SPEWED by race-motivated BIGOTS,
"Josh Hill" did make a good point when he pointed out
that Jews have a long history of using front men like Stalin, FDR,
and the Bush's and when it becomes obvious to the world
that evil was involved, they make the front man the fall guy.
Note for example that the Neocons that got Bush to
wage war on the Iraqi people were mainly Jews like
Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Ari Fleischer, Josh Bolten, Douglas Feith,
Jay Lefkowitz, David Frum, Brad Blakeman, Div Zackheim, Lewis Libby, etc.
As Philip, Alexander the Great's father said:
"No city walls are so strong
that they cannot be breached
if you can get a donkey load of gold
up to the city gates."
As can be seen
from the examples of FDR, Bush, Blair, Churchill,
and many American and British politicians,
Jews have adopted and honed Philip's strategy of
buying leaders for a few ounces of gold,
so they can reap tons of gold.
Tom Potter
Fred Bloggs
Tom Potter wrote:
> Almost all of the creative and useful work on the Manhattan Project
> was accomplished by non-Jews such as General Grove,
> Edward Lawrence, Enrico Fermi, John Dunning, Eugene Booth
> and the scientists and engineers at Oak Ridge and Hanford
I think Enrico Fermi was an Italian Jew...
>
> when the "shaped charge" approach promoted
> by a non-Jews was ignored and trivialized.
I know the individual who perfected the implosion detonation, an Eastern
European refugee, Dr. Z____. There was something about a precision
molding challenge which they overcame by tapping into the same
technology used to make dentures at the time. This was a hands-on
development followed through on the firing range, his work was not an
academic blackboard exercise in generalities. I think he was Jewish too.
Robert Lieblich
] ... ]
> I think Enrico Fermi was an Italian Jew...
Not so. Mrs. Fermi was Jewish.
Fred Bloggs
Maybe he converted to the religion then...
Fred Bloggs
You're right, he seems to have been a pure-blood Roman.
hanson
message news:476E8052...@nospam.com...
>
> Tom Potter wrote:
>> Almost all of the creative and useful work on the Manhattan Project
>> was accomplished by non-Jews such as General Grove,
>> Edward Lawrence, Enrico Fermi, John Dunning, Eugene Booth
>> and the scientists and engineers at Oak Ridge and Hanford
>
> I think Enrico Fermi was an Italian Jew... [in your dreams]
>
> Tom Potter wrote:
> when the "shaped charge" approach promoted
>> by a non-Jews was ignored and trivialized.
>
> I know the individual who perfected the implosion detonation, an Eastern
> European refugee, Dr. Z____. There was something about a precision molding
> challenge which they overcame by tapping into the same technology used to
> make dentures at the time. This was a hands-on development followed
> through on the firing range, his work was not an academic blackboard
> exercise in generalities. I think he was Jewish too.
>
... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA... It appears that you are Jewish yourself,
and indentured to boot, and most likely even one of those jerUSAlem
cockroaches who have brainwashed themselves into seeing a Jew
in every bed and at ever cash register... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs, Dreidel... ahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahanson
Ian Parker
> Note for example that the Neocons that got Bush to
> wage war on the Iraqi people were mainly Jews like
> Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Ari Fleischer, Josh Bolten, Douglas Feith,
> Jay Lefkowitz, David Frum, Brad Blakeman, Div Zackheim, Lewis Libby, etc.
>
Bush has indeed waged war against the Iraqi people. I see that like
the German defeat in 1918 you are putting the blame on the Jews, not
on the Kaiser and his entourage. Bush is an evangelical Christian
Most of the Jews in America opposed the Iraq war. I think that Iraq
very much illustrates what I am saying. Saddam Hussein held the
country together. As soon as he left the clerics took over. New
tyrants for old. Bush is supporting religious rather than secular
forces in the Middle East. He is toadying up to the Saudis and
demonising Assad.
The problem to me lies partly in America. No Arabic speaker took the
fatal decisions, and WMD was a load of lies from start to finish. Bush
also supported religious rather than secular groups.
However this being said Iraq has failed to pull itself together on its
own, the Sunnis invited Al Qaeda in and now have difficulty in getting
rid of them. If Iraq had been a strong society, they would have
responded differently to the American invasion. Well Saddam probably
would not have been there to begin with.
No Iraq typifies the Arab malaise, which the Americans grossly
mishandled. One thing you can say for sure - Keep America out of the
Middle East - whatever else you do.
- Ian Parker
Jeff Liebermann
Sure. Lots of ideas. The problem is that Islamic science and
government just don't mix. There's a very delicate balance between
science and government. Government's prime directive is to protect
itself from any form of instability and change. Technology is the
prime cause of such instability and change, especially when technology
supplies superior tools for war and revolution. So, by it's very
nature, government has to obtain just enough technology to maintain
it's position, but not too much or it will likely be destabilized
(usually by its own citizens).
Islam has done a wonderful job of protecting itself from instability
and change. In fact, it seems to have been ossified in place since
about the 15th century. Islamic science flourished and could well
have led the world in technological innovation until about 15th
century, when the local rulers discovered that they were running the
risk of creating the tools for their own demise. So, they retrenched,
established the necessary dogma to insure stability, did some major
house cleaning of scientists, and setup the enforcement structure
necessary to prevent progress.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_science>
Were it not for the demand for oil, the Arabs would probably remain
stuck in the 15th century forever. The barbarians and the bankers are
at the gates and progress is becoming difficult to ignore.
There's also not much difference between Jews and Arabs. Both are
from Semitic tribes and have much in common. Of course, there are
differences. Jews tend to assimilate, but still maintain a racial
identity, which is potentially awkward. Islamic Arabs tend to have a
zero tolerance attitude, refuse to even consider assimilation, and
consider their cultural identity to be of supreme importance.
In order to change all this for the benefit of the Arabs, there are a
few things that will need to change. A popular religious Islamic
"liberal" movement would be a huge first step. Like the Jews, they
would retrain the trappings of Islam, without the dogma and
intolerance of change that has held them back for 500 years. A few
revolutions to displace the ruling monarchies and military leaders
would also help. There also has to be an infrastructure in place that
can benefit from science and technology. If it can't be built locally
in the middle east, then the scientists and engineers will emigrate to
countries that appreciate their talents.
Gotta run... Late for a free lunch.
Don Bowey
ibCdneI6G6J5bPDa...@comcast.com, "donald"
<Don...@dontdoithere.com> wrote:
They come from everywhere, where there are ignorant parents who raise their
children in the same manner. From families of low achievers who pass on
their ignorant hateful beliefs and blame their misery on anyone who is more
well off than themselves or different enough to be an obvious target.
hanson
> Most of the Jews in America opposed the Iraq war.
>
ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA... yeah, "they" sure do oppose
the war **NOW**... but NOT before their objective [1] of revenge
was accomplished and satisfied with/thru/by the blood of our
non-Jewish goyim youngsters.... don't they, Ian. [2]
>
Fact:... to begin with ** Most of the Jews in America agitated**
virulently FOR war against Iraq, ever since back during the
Clinton administration, and as Potter remarks:
::: [it was] Neocons (a Pentagon code word for Jews) that
::: goaded Bush to wage war on the Iraqi people. These
::: were mainly Jews like Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Ari
::: Fleischer, Josh Bolten, Douglas Feith, Jay Lefkowitz,
:: David Frum, Brad Blakeman, Div Zackheim, Lewis Libby,
< http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4667039539703585825 >
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e5bffaea692a1650 >
>
BTW, what great and good things have "the Jews" (not some
Jewish individual) done for you that you support and suck up to
the Jews with such an orgasmic fervor?... yet you claim that you
are not Jewish... ahahaha... Tell us then , Ian,
:: === What are all these BILLIONS of US tax-payer dollars buying
:: the American public, besides continuous terrorism, mayhem & war
:: where Jews being connected to or are involved in ? - What good or
:: benefit has come in return to the US taxpayers from Israel for all that
:: tax money that gets extorted off the tables from poor American
:: families each year for the past 60 years?
== Don't gimme the jew-shit that Israel is the only democracy in
the Middle East. That **and** $2 buys a me cup of coffee.
I give a shit what Jews do support and what not... as long as
they pay for THEIR interests and goals with THEIR money and
THEIR OWN blood... That is cool... BUT .... Jews and especially
jerUSAlem cockroaches have been riling up the ass-venters,
ever since 1947, with their thievery, like this one here does:
< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O9W3UsdRyM >
< http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f >
It is these "loving and righteous" Jews whom you do support and
whom you must thank now for that we finally got 9/11 & gasprices
exceeding $3+/ gallon.
Happy Hanukkah and Shalom, Ian.... ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
>
[1] =
When the hanging of Hussein was accomplished, -- for Saddam
having lobbed a few missiles into Israel a decade earlier
in retort for Israel which destroyed his French nuke reactor
still another decade earlier... --- ONLY then... right thereafter,
with Hussein's corps not even cold yet, did the JerUSAlem
cockroaches make that 180° turn and became peaceniks.
[2] =
The notable exception to the post Hussein Jewish peaceniking
is Sen. Lieberman et.al who is/are bent now on expanding the
hostilities into Iran... but who surely will be a peace maker
as soon as Iran is being neutralized with US goyim blood.. again.
Jeff Liebermann
>On 22 dez, 23:52, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> Amazing. You mean that having the Jews relegated to living in a
>> ghetto constitutes "organization"? Kinda like a prison is an
>> organization of criminals? Right. We were "organized".
>Yes that is exactly what I mean. Why do you think jews were organised
>into ghettoes and banned from participating in commerce and
>government?
Because their intelligence and organization constituted a threat to
the established rulers. However, these rules lacked the intelligence
and beaurocracy to run their own government, so they couldn't just
exterminate the Jews. Jews are valuable, when you need them.
>This was a trend all over Europe before Napolean liberated
>them.
Yep.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_and_the_Jews>
Most of his financial backers and bankers were Jewish. He had to keep
them happy, somehow. I'm not sure if it was as altruistic as the
article suggests, but it was a start.
>And I guess you'r not lying above about why Jews are over-represented
>in America.
Yep. It's a matter of perspective. Jews are certainly
over-represented in professional positions in the US. However, a
better question would be why non-Jews are so under-represented.
>Its called Nepotism mate.
I'm not sure how you draw that conclusion from Napoleon, technical
over-representation, or ghetto "organization". You might want to work
on the logic.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism>
Judaism has had a long history of having the parents support the kids.
When you take that away, you talk about the erosion of the nuclear
family, family values, and in loco parentis, where the parents are
replaced by a legal instrument. Given the choice, I'll take the
family any day. If its "organization" offends you, I can only suspect
that you've never experienced how it works.
>Look mate. I am not an anti-semite or whatever Stupid term you want to
>sling at your adversary.
I am not your adversary or your mate.
Light reading:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>
>I am making th observation that some of your jewish groups have gone
>too far. You realise 9/11 was a jew job right?
Of course it was. Jews are the standard culprit and scapegoat for
every disaster and screwup. However, you're behind the times. Jewish
dominated banking is now being blamed for the sub-prime mortgage mess
in some blogs. Given sufficient imagination, methinks Jews could be
blamed for almost everything, including my being late for lunch. Gotta
run.
--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Ian Parker
> Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>
> Sure. Lots of ideas. The problem is that Islamic science and
> government just don't mix. There's a very delicate balance between
> science and government. Government's prime directive is to protect
> itself from any form of instability and change. Technology is the
> prime cause of such instability and change, especially when technology
> supplies superior tools for war and revolution. So, by it's very
> nature, government has to obtain just enough technology to maintain
> it's position, but not too much or it will likely be destabilized
> (usually by its own citizens).
>
conflict between the secular Arabs Mubarrak, Assad, Nasser, even
Saddam Hussein and the religious establishment. Assad is walking a
tightrope. I don't like some of the things he is saying but at least
there are no rockets or suicide bombers. One of the things the US did
not appreciate in Iraq was the power of the clergy. Saddam was helling
to break it. He was a brutal dictator, but as we can see now perhaps
he had to be.
The clergy know that if a progressive secular society were achieved it
would be the end of their power. If you take Syria, Assad wants
progress, there can be little doubt about that. Would progress unseat
him? In the long term perhaps, but he would probably go out
democratically. Assad would like you to study hard, go to Damascus
University, read Science or Engineering and contribute to progress
once you qualified. The clergy emphatically don't. My stay was brief.
I would have liked to find out the pressures that were on people at a
family and social level.
> Islam has done a wonderful job of protecting itself from instability
> and change. In fact, it seems to have been ossified in place since
> about the 15th century. Islamic science flourished and could well
> have led the world in technological innovation until about 15th
> century, when the local rulers discovered that they were running the
> risk of creating the tools for their own demise. So, they retrenched,
> established the necessary dogma to insure stability, did some major
> house cleaning of scientists, and setup the enforcement structure
> necessary to prevent progress.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_science>
There is a certain amount of theology here. Like the Evangelical
Protestants Islam believes that if you are righous in the sight of
Allah you will be rewarded in THIS life. Reading the Koran I can also
detect a strong element of fatalism - "the day you die is pre
ordained".
A Moslem scholar has traced the start of the rot to Gengis Khan. You
might laugh but what he said hapenned was this. Gengis Khan conquered
the Middle East - Reason, we were sinful and did not say our prayers
properly. Every reverse has met with a similar response until
Wahhabism appeared in the 18th century. Of course you can trace the
Arab Israelui conflict.
1947 - Live together build a new Middle East. through conventional
war. Of course the Arabs lost every war and terrorism has led to
horrendous restrictions. If only there could have been one Palestine
in 1947 with everyone living side by side.
> Were it not for the demand for oil, the Arabs would probably remain
> stuck in the 15th century forever. The barbarians and the bankers are
> at the gates and progress is becoming difficult to ignore.
>
Isreal is emphatically 21st century. The Arabs see this, they are
moved to envy. So you cannot have a 15th century timewarp,
particularly with Israel.
> There's also not much difference between Jews and Arabs. Both are
> from Semitic tribes and have much in common. Of course, there are
> differences. Jews tend to assimilate, but still maintain a racial
> identity, which is potentially awkward. Islamic Arabs tend to have a
> zero tolerance attitude, refuse to even consider assimilation, and
> consider their cultural identity to be of supreme importance.
>
Come down to it, there is not much difference between any peoples.
There are social differences. These consitute a chasm. The problem is
how to break this vicious circle. I think the only hope is with
secular rulers, although Bush and co. don't agree. Will the Internet
create a different social climate. I really don't know.
Remember too that children spend more time at home than at school, so
there is a limit to what the ruler can do directly.
> In order to change all this for the benefit of the Arabs, there are a
> few things that will need to change. A popular religious Islamic
> "liberal" movement would be a huge first step. Like the Jews, they
> would retrain the trappings of Islam, without the dogma and
> intolerance of change that has held them back for 500 years. A few
> revolutions to displace the ruling monarchies and military leaders
> would also help. There also has to be an infrastructure in place that
> can benefit from science and technology. If it can't be built locally
> in the middle east, then the scientists and engineers will emigrate to
> countries that appreciate their talents.
>
Agreed.
- Ian Parker
Jeff Liebermann
>>Look mate. I am not an anti-semite or whatever Stupid term you want to
>>sling at your adversary.
>
>I am not your adversary or your mate.
>
>Light reading:
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>
Oops. Better reading:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_antisemitism>
Bob Cain
> The Arabian camel is being kicked to get him off his backside as you
> put it. He is a stubborn beast though. despite these competitions the
> basic rate of immovation is abysmally low. As I have already said that
> is where the problem lies. Has anyone any brilliant ideas.
He needs a new kind of prophet but, alas, the last one ruled that out and thus
fixed the Arabian camel forever in the world's past. The problem (among many
others) admits no solution under current dogma.
No printing presses allowed until 1830. Not in any real use for another century
and then under serious constraint. Really.
Bob
--
"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler."
A. Einstein
Josh Hill
wrote:
Uh, right. This is why Stalin purged Jews, why FDR wouldn't let them
in the country, and why Bush Sr. took a hard line on Israel.
>Note for example that the Neocons that got Bush to
>wage war on the Iraqi people were mainly Jews like
>Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Ari Fleischer, Josh Bolten, Douglas Feith,
>Jay Lefkowitz, David Frum, Brad Blakeman, Div Zackheim, Lewis Libby, etc.
Yeah, make a list of the Jews who were involved while ignoring the
many more gentiles who were involved. Brilliant. And while you're at
it, ignore the fact that Jews are just about the most liberal group.
>As Philip, Alexander the Great's father said:
>"No city walls are so strong
>that they cannot be breached
>if you can get a donkey load of gold
>up to the city gates."
>
>As can be seen
>from the examples of FDR, Bush, Blair, Churchill,
>and many American and British politicians,
>Jews have adopted and honed Philip's strategy of
>buying leaders for a few ounces of gold,
>so they can reap tons of gold.
Go take your meds.
Joe Slemak
> "Ian Parker" <ianpa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a00a76bc-c244-4713...@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> Most of the Jews in America opposed the Iraq war.
>>
> [hanson]
> ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA... yeah, "they" sure do oppose the war
> **NOW**... but NOT before their objective [1] of revenge was
> accomplished and satisfied with/thru/by the blood of our non-Jewish
> goyim youngsters.... don't they, Ian. [2]
You've got that right. Wolfowitz and Perle resigned after the American
occupation began, and the Jew that our poor dumb bastard of a President
sent over as his satrap also quit once Hussein was captured.
It was almost like a wrap party after a play had ended its run, where the
writer, director and producer make toasts and depart, leaving the cast and
crew to carry on; except that in this case the cast and crew thought it
was reality.
The agenda of these kikes is so obvious it is hard to believe even our
poor President is too stupid to see it, not to mention the shrewd US
legislators.
It must be a combination of carrot and stick appealing to their greed and
general venality: do what we want and a fortune will be applied to your
present personal expenses and certainly to your retirement fund.
Cross us and you will go the way of John Anderson, Pete McCloskey and a
host of others who once bathed in the limelight and are now political
non-entities.
The Grammer Genious
What's that got to do with whether he was a Jew or not? Why wouldn't there
be pure-blood Roman Jews?
hanson
news:37cd1fd0a81a79cc...@pseudo.borked.net...
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:44:54 +0000, hanson wrote:
>
>> "Ian Parker" <ianpa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:a00a76bc-c244-4713...@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>> Most of the Jews in America opposed the Iraq war.
>>>
>> [hanson]
>> ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA... yeah, "they" sure do oppose the war
>> **NOW**... but NOT before their objective [1] of revenge was
>> accomplished and satisfied with/thru/by the blood of our non-Jewish
>> here) :
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/5921a42f2e139966 >
>
[Joe]
> You've got that right. Wolfowitz and Perle resigned after the American
> occupation began, and the Jew that our poor dumb bastard of a President
> sent over as his satrap also quit once Hussein was captured.
>
You mean Paul Bremer was Jewish too? - I don't automatically
assume that anybody with a German sounding name in the US
is really Jewish. But if Bremer was actually kikeish then.... (judged
by Jew, Uncle Al Schwartz's remarks that Jews were kiting checks
since antiquity)... it is not surprising that billions and billions of
US tax dollars that were shipped over there by the truck loads
& ended up in the hands of the kikes, instead of their intended
purpose for reconstruction to "win the hearts & minds" of the Iraqis.
Does anyone have any details/links/refs to/for such a scenario?
>
[Joe]
> It was almost like a wrap party after a play had ended its run, where the
> writer, director and producer make toasts and depart, leaving the cast and
> crew to carry on; except that in this case the cast and crew thought it
> was reality.
>
> The agenda of these kikes is so obvious it is hard to believe even our
> poor President is too stupid to see it, not to mention the shrewd US
> legislators.
>
.... ahahahaha... but Bush may be stupid like a fox. Let me be even
handed. It was not only these kikes, these jerUSAlem cockroaches
with their creed of "Israel before the US", that were the sole instigators
who goaded Bush to take "preventive action". --- Right besides and
behind these Neocon Yidds there was the Evangelical Armageddon
lobby (who needed the war to hasten the arrival of Jesus' 2nd Cuming)
and smiling with big $$ signed-eyes, behind these 2 groups there was
Rumsfeld, Cheney and the Oil-boys who saw their get-even chance now
to prove to Hussein that "I'll be baack" for those ill-gone machinations
during the 1980 that did not go too well for them back then...
>
Apparently Bush knew all that full well and clearly, which is why he
cleverly covered himself by saying: If you Jews want me to start it,
ok, but then YOU Jews do finish it, & Bush put Paul Bremer over there
and Michael Chertoff over here at home... in charge of the situation....
Bush is full well knowing that if things do fuck up over there in the long
run he will NOT be the only one to take the blame for the hardship and
severe restrictions of personal freedoms that DHS Jew Chertoff has put
onto the American people... Bush knows well that the peasantry will
project their ire onto the general US Jewry instead of only him alone...
ahahaha... Bush may well have done the stereotypical Jewish thing:
He, like them, now ready too to cry "victim" after done an evil deed...
ahahaha...
>
[Joe]
> It must be a combination of carrot and stick appealing to their greed and
> general venality: do what we want and a fortune will be applied to your
> present personal expenses and certainly to your retirement fund.
>
> Cross us and you will go the way of John Anderson, Pete McCloskey and a
> host of others who once bathed in the limelight and are now political
> non-entities.
>
[hanson]
ahahaha... yeah... these are the threat-stories which those kikes do
like to keep in the limelight to give the impression of having power...
Whether that is actually true/factual or is just clever Jew propaganda is
another matter... for the kikes are constantly in full fledged paranoia
over the latent ire of the peasantry in the USA, where Anti-Semitism
takes on very subtle and equally clever forms; to wit a few examples:
>
When Al Gore chose Jew Joe Lieberman as running mate... He lost
When it was divulged that John Kerry had Jewish Grandparents... He lost.
Since Sen. John McCain accepted the endorsement of Sen. Lieberman,
McCain's situation didn't exactly turn into victory march.... ahahahaha...
and all that "Anti-Semitism," visible here on the national level is even
more pronounced in the regional and local precincts...
>
It is horrific to watch how very hard some of those kikes do work..
(with the SILENT condoning of the normal Jews) ... with their "Jewish
Intelligence" to turn Hitler's Last Curse into becoming a self-filling
prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before his demise in 45, in which
he said: **"in a 100 years from now the world will be grateful for what
I have started".... well... 62 down, 38 to go... ahahaha....
>
AFA the money grubbing & richness of the Jews I don't know about
that neither to be a fact. But what I have seen is that most Jews in
my employ (in 7 countries) are not any better off then is the average
goyim... .. and Israeli Yehiel Porat, a poster in s.p., recently said:
"The fact is that most Jews are poor"...
So, we may see here with their "rich Jew bit bait" propaganda really
only a standard behavior that is common to all poor people:
They all brag about the very few, very rich bastards of their own
tribe/clan...** "richness by association" **.. ahahahahahahaha ..
Why not... Jews are historically great story tellers...
>
Bottom line:
Goys and Kikes will always give each other mind-fucks, since
both have bought into the aberrant legacy of the sociopathy of
Abe, the Arab, the original self-circumciser & child abuser from
the criminal out-cast tribe of the Hamaru, who some 5768 years
ago, ( acc. to the current Jewish calendar ... probably on a Oct. 25,
during a Shabbat ... ahaha...) spawned the seeds of monotheism
that gave rise to Judaism, Xianity and Islam, whose sole & chief
raison d'etre seems to be to kill each other off, wholesale, in the
name of their respective irrational, godly-ungodly "spiritual"
oye-weh Yahweh-, huri-Allah- or jack-off Jehovah- delusions...
>
So, carry on and take care you guys.. That was a great thread!....
Happy Hanukkah to the Yidds and Merry Xmas to the Goyim and
Blessed Eid to the Ass-venters... AND most of all
Thanks for the laughs, you guys and guyettes.... ahahahanson
zzbu...@netscape.net
> "Uncle Al" <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
>
> news:47632FB9...@hate.spam.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "nowarforisrael.com" wrote:
>
> >> Jewish Intelligence
>
> >> August 19. 2007
>
> >> Jewish intelligence has become a hot topic following the publication
> >> of a paper by Greg Cochran and Henry Harpending in The Journal of
> >> Biological Science.
>
> > trees. Everybody knows this and everybody fears it. Jews from the
> > Pale of Settlement average 2/3 sigma above average European IQs. That
> > makes no significant difference amidst the lumpen proletariate. When
> > we get to six sigmas above the mean Profoundly Gifted... the Manhattan
> > Project had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi concentration camp.
> > [snip]
>
> > They weren't hired for diversity, bubbula. Kill off the bottom 90%
> > and you have a Master Race remaining.
>
Well, it only takes a little background reading on the people
who invented GR to recognize that they developed
the Gendanken Experiment in the way it is because
in the philosophy area they were rehashes from Zeno and
Agammemnon.
So, it is diffucult to get any areas of science or technology
to advance by turning the calender back 2000 years.
> --
> Tom Potter
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~tdphttp://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com/http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos- Hide quoted text -
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Ian Parker
> Ian Parker wrote:
> > The Arabian camel is being kicked to get him off his backside as you
> > put it. He is a stubborn beast though. despite these competitions the
> > basic rate of immovation is abysmally low. As I have already said that
> > is where the problem lies. Has anyone any brilliant ideas.
>
> He needs a new kind of prophet but, alas, the last one ruled that out and thus
> fixed the Arabian camel forever in the world's past. The problem (among many
> others) admits no solution under current dogma.
>
Theocracy which is what most Arabs would vote for does not work - not
unless you have a sticky black substance gushing out of the ground.
Oil means that you do not need a functioning economy.
What happens therefore is that a military dictator takes over, and
produces an economy that functions after a fashion.
> No printing presses allowed until 1830. Not in any real use for another century
> and then under serious constraint. Really.
>
Interesting point. My main interest is Aritificial Intelligence. A
major part of this is the statistical translation of language. When
you think about it the ability to get the right word "una resorte de
reloj" reloj -> resorte, flores -> primavera, is central to being able
to understand data. The processes that have to be gone though in
translation are thus similar to those that have to be gone through to
get an indexed search. You don't want Google to simply match words,
you want it to search for a meaning.
The long and short of this is that if you translate a Web page into
Arabic, Google owns the translation. It will (probably) use the search
data as input. Hence your sole interface to Arabic is via Google.
Censors have either to allow everything or cut off Google, together
with all Arabic completely. If you do this you really will fall behind
everyone else. I can also use English words to search for literature
in Arabic, I found Sadat's speech on the opening of the Aswan dam
where he pays tribute to Nasser. It works (presumably) the other way.
I feel that these facts should be put in front of every Arab leader. I
think there is a high degree of intellectual dishonesty on the part of
clerics. I think they lack integrity. They are indeed frightened that
the dogma that they peddle out every Friday would be challenged by
science. In short they want the plebs to believe something that they
do not believe themselves.
I have been accused of liking dictators. No, I don't really but I do
not believe there to be a short term alternative. Secular (dictatorial/
military) rule is needed to bring any semblance of modernity.
Dictators should be prodded by the West, but NOT removed.
What are the prospects of peace? I think in many ways our politicians
are misguided, sometimes well intentioned, sometimes not. I feel there
will be peace when, and only when a new type of society emerges. Bush
has in fact put the clock back - not forwards.
- Ian Parker
BTW - I have to praise Google Translate. Translations have improved
enormously - particularly Arabic. I feel that language and
understanding may be a part.
Bob Cain
> BTW - I have to praise Google Translate. Translations have improved
> enormously - particularly Arabic. I feel that language and
> understanding may be a part.
How does one use it? Both directions. I know the Arabic alphabet and phonetic
rules but assimilating vocabulary is taking me far too long and until some
significant vocabulary is built it is really difficult to work on grammar.
Something like you describe might be of use.
Claude Weil
message of this thread on the superior intelligence of Jews. Did
he/she really mean to glorify Jews or was it his/her aim to open the
door to a spate of Jew-haters?
Whatever the case, posting anti-Semitic messages does not increase the
number of anti-Semites, does it? It just shows that, unfortunately,
blind intolerance is just as prevalent as ever.
CW
Ian Parker
There are 2 ways to use Google Translate. You can either translate
text or translate a website. When you go into "Google" you get
"language tools" click on that. One way to build up a vocabulary is to
translate short pasages.
To translate a Web page you just put the web address in and set to
English - Arabic. In many ways it is better than a human translator in
that it understands the rules of HTML. Also it does put little
pictures in the right place. I have found I need to put initials as a
picture so that they are not translated.
Also use equation editor.
- Ian Parker
hanson
into a Jarmulke <cw...@gmx.net> whined "oye-weh" in message
news:ke9vm3pijnfgaoaut...@4ax.com...
** It just shows that, unfortunately blind intolerance is just **
** as prevalent as ever as you have just shown by
YOUR OWN cited Jewish desire & example, Weil. **
>
ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... oye-oye-oye, oye-weh...
Hey Schmuck, listen. I didn't see any jew haters in this tread.
I didn't see any Anti-Semitism. All that was posted by people
were impressions about expressions, comments and actions
that were performed & perpetrated by JEWS... ahahahaha....
It appears that you, Jew Weil, prefers that talk about Jews
ought to be prohibited... But listen, schmuck and listen good:
>
Nobody is born Anti-Semitic, and Jews are its only teachers.
= Anti Semitism is created and promulgated only by Jews. =
Listen, you blind fanatic: No Jews - No Anti-Semitism - EOS.
>
Here are some such examples of blind intolerance that I do
NOT hear you to complain about or whine over, you phony
self-righteous Jew, when Ersatz Rabbi Bob Kolker and Uncle
rect-Al Schwartz posted this:
>
[Bob Kolker, the Jew]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/82caaf5ff6e0038c?hl=en&
::BK:: "I advocate wide scale genocide on the Moslems", after,
::BK:: on Oct. 18, 04, in news:2tm3f7F...@uni-berlin.de
::BK: : he said "the obvious [final] solution is to kill them all" ... &
::BK: :urges in news:2rfqqdF...@uni-berlin.de on 09-23-04,
::BK:: "to put all Xians into asylums for their belief in Christianity".
>
[Uncle Alan Schwartz, the Jew]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.org.mensa/msg/572674e5060b55a3?hl=en&
::Al:: "DEATH to the poor. -- DEATH to the sick. -- DEATH to
::Al:: every cripple. DEATH to every retard. -- DEATH to every
::Al:: addict. -- DEATH to the queer and infected. -- DEATH
::Al:: to every Welfare parasite. -- DEATH to every Social
::Al:: Security parasite. -- DEATH to every prisoner with
::Al:: 10 or more years' prison sentence. -- DEATH to Night
::Al:: Basketball. DEATH to every sniveling conniving goddamned
::Al:: money-sucking Officially Sad sonofabitch in the world.
::Al:: DEATH to the entire Third World. Kill them all".
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/d05517e7f4de883d?hl=en&
::Al:: "I have no problem with killing the now and future enemy. An
::Al:: Earth with 3 billion people would be a much nicer place to live."
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/657dbe27ce06ca8d?hl=en&
::Al:: Uncle Al especially enjoys earthquakes that collapse churches
::Al:: filled with worshippers.
:
To boot, hoer mal, Jew Weil, Du scheinheiliger Schafseckel,
Arschloch & Totsch, == ***Anti Semitism is good*** == since
it is a highly desirable and promoted item for the well-being of
the world's Jewry, by orders of Israel's exPM Ariel Sharon, the
General of **the Army of Light**, who said in
< http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1003.shtml > or in
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/be8452e683364a49 >
::Sharon:: We might use nuclear arms. We are **Judeo-Nazis**.
::Sharon:: .... we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the
::Sharon:: Middle East! --- We might start World War Three.
::Sharon:: I am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary.
::Sharon:: ** I will do all I can to increase Anti-Semitism **, and be
::Sharon:: prepared to absorb the Yids I will force to flee to this
::Sharon:: country and teach them to be a light unto the gentiles.
>
Now, that you have established yourself as a Jew who only
tolerates opinions that favorable to/about yourself and your ilk
you have accomplished but one precious fact.
You have invoked Sid Snead's axiom that says:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Claude Weil is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth
>
Now I say onto you, Jew Weil, just like you Jews do say:
************* Trust me, Go figure **************
>
Thanks for the laughs, you Dreidel/Troedel... ahahahahanson
z
> So, why did they (whoever *they* are) allow Sammy Davis Jr. to become
> Jewish? That dog don't hunt!
Oh please. You ain't gonna tell us that jews is white folks.
z
> "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote in messagenews:47634AFF...@hovnanian.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > BobW wrote:
>
> >> "John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >>news:7oc6m31634ldih52l...@4ax.com...
>
> >> [snip the bs]
>
> >> >>If you don't have the key the door remains closed. We don't want
> >> >>you. You cannot buy your way in, you cannot cheat. Go in, go back.
> >> >>The rabbi will say "no."
>
> >> > You can't convert to being Irish, either. Eat your heart out, dude.
>
> >> > John
>
> >> So, why did they (whoever *they* are) allow Sammy Davis Jr. to become
> >> Jewish? That dog don't hunt!
>
>
> > The stories about the purity of the Jewish lineage are overblown, IMO.
> > I've known a number of people who converted. It all depends on finding
> > the right rabbi and convincing him of the sincerity of your faith. Once
> > you're in, or maybe a couple of generations later, who's going to
> > question your status?
>
> > --
> > Paul Hovnanian mailto:P...@Hovnanian.com
>
> It is an interesting religion, however. You've gotta love a group that has a
> word for those who aren't Jewish (a "goy" is a non Jew).
>
> I have a friend who's Jewish and is a môhel (pronounced "moil", and is one
> who does circumcisions). He says that the base salary isn't too good, but he
> gets lots of tips.
>
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(Two men standing at urinals in a synagogue)
"Hey, you from Dirtville?"
"Why yes, how did you know?"
"My uncle Sammy's the mohel there, and he slices to the left; and I
notice you're pissing on my shoe".
Bob Cain
> There are 2 ways to use Google Translate. You can either translate
> text or translate a website. When you go into "Google" you get
> "language tools" click on that. One way to build up a vocabulary is to
> translate short pasages.
>
> To translate a Web page you just put the web address in and set to
> English - Arabic. In many ways it is better than a human translator in
> that it understands the rules of HTML. Also it does put little
> pictures in the right place. I have found I need to put initials as a
> picture so that they are not translated.
Thanks Ian. It's quite remarkable. I translated http://www.aljazeera.net with
better results than I would have expected. Some of the Arabic is not textual
but rather pictured and it can't see that but all of the stories and features
were translated with very useful fidelity.
>
> Also use equation editor.
If you are using it for Arabic text input another and possibly more general
solution is at:
http://www.uga.edu/islam/arabic_windows.html
Don Bowey
<han...@quick.net> wrote:
(snip absolute crap)
You're a sick POS.