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Tom Potter

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Nov 20, 2006, 8:56:30 PM11/20/06
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Reuters - Sun Nov 19, 2006
Indonesia anti-Bush rallies pick up steam

"the cost and trouble of security preparations for the visit, including
building helicopter pads in a Bogor botanical garden and plans to lock down
much of the town during and ahead of the visit.

The U.S. ambassador to Indonesia, Lynn Pascoe, has said the need for
security reflects the reality that "there are lots of crazy people in the
world out there, (who) will do crazy things"."

=====================
End quote.

Ambassador Pascoe makes a good point!

What could be crazier,
than for the maximum leader of the
most trusted and respected nation on Earth

to unilateral wage a needless war on a small nation,
and kill and maim hundreds of thousands of human beings,
and cost every family in the aggressor nation,
tens of thousands of dollars,

and destroy the trust and respect
that the world had for the aggressor nation?

What could be crazier?????

As Ambassador Pascoe points out
sometimes crazy people manage to occupy powerful offices,
and do very crazy things.

Not since the days of the Roman Empire,
has the leader of a powerful nation
been so egotistical, arrogant, unstable, and "crazy"
as George Bush.

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Double-A

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Nov 20, 2006, 9:30:44 PM11/20/06
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Have you noticed how your beloved Democrats have become nothing but
conciliatory now that the election is over and they have won control of
the Congress. Talk of impeaching Bush and making radical changes from
the way Republicans did things are now all out the window as
politicians seek to fit in and to pursue the interests of their own
political careers. I don't see any moves coming soon to end the war by
the Democrats as they are now show their eagerness to compromise and
accommodate the administration and take their place in the overall
power structure. Ralph Nader is right, you know. There is really only
one political party in this country!

Just like in your country, Potter.

Double-A

Eric Gisse

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Nov 20, 2006, 10:28:43 PM11/20/06
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Tom Potter wrote:
> Reuters - Sun Nov 19, 2006
> Indonesia anti-Bush rallies pick up steam

[...]

This has nothing to do with physics, crackpotter. Post that shit to
your blog.

Sorcerer

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Nov 21, 2006, 3:36:37 AM11/21/06
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"Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[snip non-physics crap]

|
| Not since the days of the Roman Empire,
| has the leader of a powerful nation
| been so egotistical, arrogant, unstable, and "crazy"
| as George Bush.
|

Leaving out Saddam Hussein, Stalin, Hitler, Andrew Jackson, George III,
Bloody Mary, King John, Atilla the Hun... ... ... ...

How many millions and billions of times have I told you not to
exaggerate, Potty, and what the fuck does this have to do with physics,
troll?


Sorcerer

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Nov 21, 2006, 3:46:38 AM11/21/06
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"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
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Do you think alt.atheism, alt.abraham.lincoln and alt.abortion
might be suitable newsgroups for the discussion of physics?

Androcles makes a good point! (but you won't hear Potty say that.)

Tom Potter

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Nov 20, 2006, 10:52:59 PM11/20/06
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"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
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>

It is interesting to see that Double-A
equates criticism of George Bush to being a Democrat.

As can be seen,
from my numerous posts to the newsgroups,
I am an ex-entrepreneur and free market advocate,
who supported Republicans and George Bush,
BEFORE Bush got into office and showed that
he had, like most national politicians,
sold out to the Jewish Lobby.

Double-A (And Ralph Nader) do make a good point
when they point out that both
Democrats and Republicans at the national level,
are owned by the Jewish Lobby,
and are pretty much alike,
except for the rhetoric.

As Philip, Alexander the Great's father said:
"No city walls are so secure
that they cannot be breached,
if you can get a donkey load of gold
up to the city gates."

As can be seen,
both Democrats and Republicans at the national level,
sell out for a few donkey loads of gold,
and the American taxpayers pay an enormous price
in lives, limbs, loss of freedoms,
and thousands of donkey loads of gold.

It appears that the greatest return one can get on an investment
is to buy the national leaders in rich nations,
and in nations that have rich resources.

As I have posted,
the best way to obtain a non-corruptible, democratic government
is to select Representatives randomly
from all of a nation's citizens,
and have the Representatives, in turn,
select a group of people to head up the
various departments such as Defense, State, etc.
who in turn could assign one of their members to be
the dictator ("The decider") for short periods
in times of REAL emergencies.

And to sell the seats in the Senate
to the highest bidder,
in order to give voice to the
long term movers and shakers in the society.

The American government is controlled by
the Jewish Lobby and other religious and special
interests, and NOT by the American citizens.

Speaking of Ralph Nader,
he did General Motors, America, conservation, and the environment
a great injustice, with his book "Unsafe at any speed",
that attacked the Corvair, which was paving the way to:
1. Protecting the American auto market from Japanese cars.
2. Conservation of oil, steel, etc.
3. Less pollution.

Nader also did America a great harm by
allowing Bush to become president,
and this has been America's greatest tragedy,
short of the Civil War.

Sorcerer

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Nov 21, 2006, 4:33:01 AM11/21/06
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"Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| It is interesting to see that Double-A
| equates criticism of George Bush to being a Democrat.

It is fuckin' boring that Potty want to discuss US politics
in a physics newsgroup

FUCK OFF!, Potty.

Double-A

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Nov 21, 2006, 6:09:08 AM11/21/06
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The flaw in your proposed system of government is that if the Jewish
Lobby has had the cash to buy up all the politicians now, they would
certainly have a lock on the Senate under your proposed system!

But what the hey, why not sell the Presidency to the highest bidder
too? There were times in history when the position of Roman Emperor
and the Papacy were both up for sale! But as long as we require that
all future Presidents be Episcopalians, it should work out OK!

Double-A

Double-A

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Nov 21, 2006, 6:16:11 AM11/21/06
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How about British politics? How's that war in Afghanistan been going
lately? Not so good, I hear!


> FUCK OFF!, Potty.


At least I can agree with that!

Double-A

Sorcerer

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Nov 21, 2006, 6:50:29 AM11/21/06
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"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
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|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| > news:4562b9e4$0$21107$8826...@free.teranews.com...
| >
| > | It is interesting to see that Double-A
| > | equates criticism of George Bush to being a Democrat.
| >
| > It is fuckin' boring that Potty want to discuss US politics
| > in a physics newsgroup
|
|
| How about British politics? How's that war in Afghanistan been going
| lately? Not so good, I hear!
|

Don't sweat it, see the newsgroup alt.wars.in.afghan.sweaters.

Brits made a lot of money selling Afghan opium to the Chinese
and African slaves to Americans, but also still leads the world in
physics, nobody has topped Newton yet.
For every photon there is an equal and opposite rephoton.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rephoton.gif

Double-A

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Nov 21, 2006, 7:08:59 PM11/21/06
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Note: No response.

tdp...@gmail.com

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Nov 22, 2006, 8:19:05 PM11/22/06
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> The flaw in your proposed system of government is that if the Jewish
> Lobby has had the cash to buy up all the politicians now, they would
> certainly have a lock on the Senate under your proposed system!
>
> But what the hey, why not sell the Presidency to the highest bidder
> too?

Regarding Double-A's assertion:
"the Jewish Lobby has the cash to buy up all the politicians now",

the Jewish Lobby does not have
"the cash to buy up all the politicians now."

They do have enough cash to buy enough
crooked politicians, and they do have enough media presence
to intimidate enough politicians, to the extent that they
can impose their agenda upon the masses,
whom are in sort of a "democratic balance".

In other words, the social forces
tend to force political, social and economic systems
into the root, mean-squared, desires of the masses.

The Jewish Lobby, and other self-serving groups,
capitalize on this, and only have to buy a few
dishonest and venerable politicians in order to
impose their agenda upon the masses.

1. If the Representatives were selected RANDOMLY
from all of the people, the House of Representatives
would be TRULY democratic, and this would
eliminate the influence of money and media in
selecting the people's representatives.

2. The purpose of the Senate
is to give voice to the movers and shakers in society,
and to give them the stability and confidence
they need to promote costly, long term projects,
thus the seats in the Senate should be sold to the highest bidder,
NO MATTER WHAT their race, religion, color or nationality is,
as the domain of the elite extends over the whole world.

As I have posted, at the current time,
only the Jewish Lobby is allowed to buy politicians.
As can be seen, when China, or anyone else tries this,
they are roundly attacked by the media,
and the existing politicians.

The system should be opened so that all
races, religions, nations, companies, organizations, etc.
can bid on, and buy, a few Senators.

This would bring the system into the open,
allow others than the Jewish Lobby to get
in on the act, and the money paid for these seats
would go into the general fund,
rather than be wasted "Swiftboating and "Mel Gibsoning".,
and stirring up hate and division.

3. The people that end up in the Senate
would be people like Ted Turner, Henry Ford, Edison,
Bill Gates, etc. who have made their mark in the free market,
and would like to impose some of their philosophy on the world.

The Senators would know what qualities are need in
a good executive, and the Senate would have the power
to select people to be presented to the Representatives
for their approval to head the various offices, such
as Defense, State, Agriculture, Environment, Energy, etc.

4. In times of REAL crisis, as determined by a 2/3 vote
in the House of Representatives, the heads of the departments
would select ONE of their members to be Dictator for one year.
Rome did this when they were a Republic, and it worked very well,
as it allowed them to become the masters of all of Europe.

Regarding Double-A's question:
"why not sell the Presidency to the highest bidder too?",

this would open up the opportunity for small groups,
such as the Jewish Lobby, to pool their resources,
and buy the President, and people like Bush and Lieberman
would end up in these offices.

Under my system,
the people (Senators) who recognize executive material
would select it, and the people's Representatives
would approve or disapprove in order to allow the
will of the masses to have a veto in the matter.

As can be seen, the present system
is not only NOT democratic,
it greatly benefits the people who own media.

The media not only profits
from the fact that the contending social forces
have to waste enormous amounts of money buying media
in order to have a voice,

they are able to use media to brainwash
the masses to their agenda and
to intimidate politicians.

tdp...@gmail.com

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Nov 22, 2006, 8:56:07 PM11/22/06
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"Eric Gisse" <jow...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Eric Gisse" raises a interesting point
when he points out that instigation of hate for Muslims,
(Jihad needs scientists, etc.)

and the hyping of Einstein,
who created Towers of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, gravity waves,
black holes, rubber rulers and clocks, worm holes, etc.

has more to do with race and religions than physics,
and belongs in blogs and other newsgroups.

Although "Eric Gisse" directed his post to alt.moron
where he and his buddies hang out,
I took the liberty of deleting this newsgroup.

I hereby pledge
that when the hyping of Einstein and GTR,
and the instigation of hate for Muslims,
ends in sci.physics,
that I will not counter this race and religion propaganda,
with non-physics posts.

BTW Gisse,
why don't you make a few posts to the thread
"Jihad needs scientists",
which has over a thousand posts,
and get them to get that thread out of sci.physics?

Jeff…Relf

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Nov 29, 2006, 1:24:04 AM11/29/06
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Hi Tom_Potter, In this world there are land_Lords_ and ten_Ants_.
Bush is a landlord... evicting at will ( from the planet ).

Do I agree with him ? no. Would I take his job ? Fuck no !

As I just told Galathaea...

I met a girl walking her 5 pound dog the other day...
its name was Caesar... Caesar of what ? I thought.

The cosmos is infinite in extent and depth. All I want is
domain over my little chunk of time, space and Gibbs_Free_Energy.
This, in fact, is why so many are willing to code for little or no money.


tdp...@gmail.com

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Nov 29, 2006, 9:12:01 AM11/29/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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Jeff, the dog's name is a Freudian slip,
or perhaps more correctly,
a "Freudian tip."

In other words,
she is sending out the message
"Seize her".

And she is looking for "five pounds" of something.

If she is English she may be looking for about $20.00.
If she is not English, maybe "five pounds" of something else.

T Wake

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Nov 29, 2006, 3:10:12 PM11/29/06
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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> Hi Tom_Potter, In this world there are land_Lords_ and ten_Ants_.

Why are there only ten ants? What is an eleventh is born? Does one of the
others die? I saw many more than ten ants in my kitchen in the summer. Was
that due to a local disturbance in the 19th spatial dimension?


Phineas T Puddleduck

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Nov 29, 2006, 4:33:19 PM11/29/06
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In article <e6idnYxFotG4dPDY...@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet...@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

Was there a great disturb-ants in the force, perhaps?

--

Just \int_0^\infty du it!

hanson

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Andro the "Sorcerer" <Headm...@hogwarts.physics_e> w/i
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> "Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
> news:1164107771.3...@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> | > "Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | > news:4562b9e4$0$21107$8826...@free.teranews.com...
> | > | It is interesting to see that Double-A
> | > | equates criticism of George Bush to being a Democrat.
> | > |Not since the days of the Roman Empire has the

> | > | leader of a powerful nation been so egotistical,
> | > | arrogant, unstable, and "crazy" as George Bush.
> | >
[Andro ]

> | > Leaving out Saddam Hussein, Stalin, Hitler, Andrew Jackson,
> | > George III, Bloody Mary, King John, Atilla the Hun... ... ... ...
> | > How many millions and billions of times have I told you not to
> | > exaggerate, Potty, and what the fuck does this have to do
> | > with physics, troll?
> | > It is fuckin' boring that Potty want to discuss US politics
> | > in a physics newsgroup
> | > FUCK OFF!, Potty.
> |
[AA]

> | At least I can agree with that!
> | How about British politics? How's that war in Afghanistan
> | been going lately? Not so good, I hear!
> |
[Andro]

> Don't sweat it, see the newsgroup alt.wars.in.afghan.sweaters.
> Brits made a lot of money selling Afghan opium to the Chinese
> and African slaves to Americans, but also still leads the world in
> physics, nobody has topped Newton yet.
> For every photon there is an equal and opposite rephoton.
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rephoton.gif [1]
>
[hanson]
ahahaha... I like the "different strokes for different folks" approach
in the above discussion, or "it's not what you say but how you say it"
or "Pot/Kettle"... & it demonstrates that "physics is a socio-political
enterprise after all"... ... ahahaha... Thanks for the laughs, guys.
hahaha... ahahahanson
>
BTW, Potter, your hard-on for Bush is well known but you should
keep in mind a few things: ==(a) you voted for Bush. ==(b) Bush
may be all the things you said he is and worse, but he is a prez
for **all** the people, he obediently having listened to the ones
(who put/kept him) in power, first to the Jews (Neocons) AND the
Evangelicals, followed by Cheney's oil boys, all 3 being an unholy
triumvirate that goaded Bush into going after Hussein. Then as
soon Saddam was in the pokie, the same Jews turned on Bush,
and became openly anti-war with (a few exceptions), along with
pinko-commies like you, Tom.... ....

... but the funniest part of all this is, Potter, like it or not.....
you, Tom and GW Bush, whom you hate with a pissed passion
have very much in common with each other.
Actually Potter, you are a kind of a super Bush.
Your grand agenda is to better the world by exposing the
war-for-profit instigating Jews, whereas Presidents Bush I & II
have more modest plans.
They want to better the world by nation-building and spreading
democracy.... ahahahaha...
But apparently, Tom, your Jews won't go away and no new nation
has been built yet much less any democratic ones... Sadly, Tom,
the upshot of both of your machinations just achieves the opposite:
== Bush and Potter
== make things rotter
Remember, Tom: "No good deed ever goes unpunished"
Clair Booth Luce, 1941
ahahahaha...

BTW:
[1] Andro, your
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rephoton.gif
is cool, not only as a presentation, but as a model concept.
Could you put all you have posted about it so far into a
single new post and name it as "Rephoton" so that I can
catch it? There may be more to it than what has been said
about that view so far... not the least of it being that it may
lead to an elegant and intuitively acceptable explanation why
photons do not any apparent mass. Thanks and take care.
hanson

Sorcerer

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Nov 30, 2006, 7:28:04 PM11/30/06
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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message news:c2Jbh.17682$Uz.12712@trnddc05...

Ok...

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|

hanson

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"Sorcerer" <Headm...@hogwarts.physics_e> wrote in message
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[Andro]
Ok...
>
[hanson]
see ff:
Rephoton for Hanson :
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/414521c791f5b20b
Androcles' Rephoton :
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c2a968cbcbfd3abb


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