For Potter--Note the applications and economics of GPS
Sam Wormley
U.S. Presentation at
Polytechnic University of Turin
February 25, 2008
http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/
http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/shaw.ppt
hanson
news:2Mgxj.52201$9j6.26896@attbi_s22...
Nobody, including Potter, argues that GPS nor any of the other
competitive non US based positioning systems are not good:
>
Sam, I asked about this before, in this post here on 3-Jan-08,:
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/a2a290997bafd30c >
== re: GPS World: Connectivity, Mobile Phones Will
Dominate Navigation ==,... wherein I asked you, Sam:
" Where is Einstein referred to for his contributions in your link here?
< http://lbs.gpsworld.com/gpslbs/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=481835 >
Where do the GPS manufactures and operators like Nokia, Motorola,
LG, Samsung, TRG, Garmin or TomTom say that they could not have
achieved that level/success of technology were it not for Einstein and
his lunatic SR and GR? "...
>
Only a set of geriatric Einstein Dingleberries in these NG does hang
onto their religious SR/GR belief, as they move close to the warmth
near Einstein's sphincter, that EIsnetin's crap is oimportant ... ahaha...
Now, where do these Turin participants declare in their ppt that
Einstein's crock n' shit is necessary for the aims/goals they advocate?
>
=== No Einstein relativity is needed for GPS ===
GPS NEVER NEEDED any SR nor GR! Not for its conception, not
for its design, not for its development, not for its manufacture, not for
its production, not for its testing, not for its operations and not for its
improvements.... ahahahaha... ONLY a few Einstein Dingleberries
in academia invented **BELATEDLY, AFTER THE FACT**, some
convoluted stories to describe GPS operations. .... BFD!... Any
fool and writerling can tell a story about something that has already
been built... and Einstein Dingleberries do take the cake in this...
The fanatics insist that were it nor for Einstein, GPS could not exist...
... ahaha... AHAHAHA....
>
Sam, you and the other good teachers we have in is this sordidly
hilarious NG here, please do not poison the mind of your students
with this Einstein shit as being reality... Teach it to them if you must
BUT temper it by saying that in the **real world**
== mil/indust. Eng, R&D....................."does NOT need REL shit"
== *.edu and grantology ..................."does need REL - No shit"
== Promo, Sales & Movies..............."loves REL by the shit load"
== Jews protect it as cultural heritage whether "REL is shit or not".
>
Thanks for the laughs, Sam.... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
Androcles
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:uZlxj.33785$T8.6044@trnddc03...
| "Sam Wormley" <swor...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
| news:2Mgxj.52201$9j6.26896@attbi_s22...
| For Potter--Note the applications and economics of GPS
| U.S. Presentation at Polytechnic University of Turin
| February 25, 2008
| http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/
| http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/shaw.ppt
| >
| hanson wrote:
| Nobody, including Potter, argues that GPS nor any of the other
| competitive non US based positioning systems are not good:
| >
| Sam, I asked about this before, in this post here on 3-Jan-08,:
| < http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/a2a290997bafd30c >
| == re: GPS World: Connectivity, Mobile Phones Will
| Dominate Navigation ==,... wherein I asked you, Sam:
| " Where is Einstein referred to for his contributions in your link here?
| < http://lbs.gpsworld.com/gpslbs/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=481835 >
| Where do the GPS manufactures and operators like Nokia, Motorola,
| LG, Samsung, TRG, Garmin or TomTom say that they could not have
| achieved that level/success of technology were it not for Einstein and
| his lunatic SR and GR? "...
| >
| Only a set of geriatric Einstein Dingleberries in these NG does hang
| onto their religious SR/GR belief, as they move close to the warmth
| near Einstein's sphincter, that EIsnetin's crap is oimportant ...
ahaha...
Yah got me beat with that one, h.
Does it mean "Oh! Important!", or "omnipotent"?
Wormy is welcome to read
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/GPS/GPS.htm
but it is beyond his tiny mind to understand it, as it would be
for any bigot.
Even funnier, the latest from the ASS-istant professor from the
Outback of Europe (Norway):
" While an observer on the Earth measure 1,000,000 years,
an observer on the Moon (if we ignore the mass of the Moon)
would measure 1000000.0006797 years.
That is approximately 6 hours more than the observer on the Earth." --
Fuckhead
Andersen.
So the observer on the Moon looks at Earth:
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=65046&rendTypeId=4
and sees the terminator crossing New York when it is crossing
Norway. This is called "measurement"of time.
Jeff▲Relf
can be modeled as hyperstructures ( in 4-D ).
Is the weather in Seattle truly ( intrinsically ) random ?
or does it get more and more predictable with measurement ?
Instrinsically ( irregardless of how informed one might be ),
the cosmos ( from quarks to galaxy clusters ) is a hyperstructure;
it's ( 4-D ) motionless, hyperstatic; perfectly causal and timeless.
This ( i.e. physicalism ) is the basis for everything
from quarks to galaxy clusters, to governments and the human mind.
Physicalists know they're too ignorant to judge anyone; Einstein said:
“ I do not believe in freedom of the will. Schopenhauer's words:
‘ Man can do what he wants, but he cannot will what he wills. ’
accompany me in all situations throughout my life
and reconcile me with the actions of others
even if they are rather painful to me.
This awareness of the lack of freedom of will
preserves me from taking too seriously myself and my fellow men
as acting and deciding individuals and from losing my temper. ”.
-- www.EinsteinAndReligion.COM/credo.html
Tom Potter
Sam, considering that the existing GPS system is so good,
why don't the American GPS managers
just add new features to the system?
Rather than hype "Interoperable"
to provide "better capabilities"
why don't they just add the "better capabilities"
to the American system?
Considering that the GPS managers are stressing
the prevention of the "hostile use" of GPS,
how can co-operation with Russia, China
and Europe prevent these "hostile users"
(Whoever they are.)
from using the existing or the new system
from being used in a hostile way,
like it was used against the Iraqi people?
Will Russia, China, Europe
and other nations have the capability
of preventing America and Israel
from using the new GPS system
in a "hostile" way?
If the existing system is so good,
and America can add any improvements to the system
they like and need, and keep the system
"free of direct user fees on a continuous, worldwide basis",
why are the GPS managers wasting all this time and money
bragging about the existing system,
hyping future improvements,
attending meetings, negotiating, issuing joint statements,
courting Russia, China and Europe, etc?
It sounds to me that they are worried that
the world will migrate to the other systems,
(Because they don't trust America
and fear that some crazy president might
use the GPS system in a "hostile" way,
or pull the pull on the system
disrupting the GPS allied systems.),
and that the American system will become a vast wasteland,
used only by the American military, and supported by
the American taxpayers.
Relevant excerpts from Sam's URL's follow.
=============================
"Interoperable" - ability of civil U.S. and non-U.S. space-based
PNT services to be used together to provide the user
better capabilities than would be achieved
by relying solely on one service or signal
Interoperable = Better Together than Separate"
Provide civil GPS and augmentations free of direct user fees on a
continuous, worldwide basis
Provide open, free access to information needed to develop equipment
Improve performance of civil GPS and augmentations to meet or exceed that of
international systems
Encourage international development of PNT systems based on GPS
Seek to ensure international systems are interoperable with civil GPS and
augmentations
Address mutual security concerns with international providers to prevent
hostile use
U.S.- Russia Joint Statement issued in Dec 2004
Several productive technical working group meetings have been held:
Russia WG-1 chair proposed adopting two new civil CDMA signals at L1, L5
which will be interoperable with GPS
Negotiations for a U.S.-Russia agreement on satellite navigation cooperation
have been underway since late 2005:
Next meeting will be held in early 2008
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PD
> "Sam Wormley" <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2Mgxj.52201$9j6.26896@attbi_s22...
>
> > For Potter--Note the applications and economics of GPS
>
> > U.S. Presentation at
> > Polytechnic University of Turin
> > February 25, 2008
>
> > http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/
> > http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/shaw.ppt
>
> Sam, considering that the existing GPS system is so good,
> why don't the American GPS managers
> just add new features to the system?
>
> Rather than hype "Interoperable"
> to provide "better capabilities"
> why don't they just add the "better capabilities"
> to the American system?
>
Because, as you are fond of saying, they don't need to, when
commercial applications and business ventures do the job for them. The
GPS managers are infrastructure people. The business community is the
one that makes a change in standard of living that uses it.
You might want to look up "hyperlocality" in the business plans of the
top Fortune 500 companies, as well as on the blogsphere, Wired,
technorati, etc, etc, etc.
PD
Sam Wormley
>
> "Sam Wormley" <swor...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:2Mgxj.52201$9j6.26896@attbi_s22...
>> For Potter--Note the applications and economics of GPS
>>
>> U.S. Presentation at
>> Polytechnic University of Turin
>> February 25, 2008
>>
>> http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/
>> http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/shaw.ppt
>
> Sam, considering that the existing GPS system is so good,
> why don't the American GPS managers
> just add new features to the system?
>
> Rather than hype "Interoperable"
> to provide "better capabilities"
> why don't they just add the "better capabilities"
> to the American system?
>
If you have to ask, Potter, I seriously doubt you would understand.
Tom Potter
"PD" <TheDrap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 28, 5:31 pm, "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Sam Wormley" <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:2Mgxj.52201$9j6.26896@attbi_s22...
>>
>> > For Potter--Note the applications and economics of GPS
>>
>> > U.S. Presentation at
>> > Polytechnic University of Turin
>> > February 25, 2008
>>
>> > http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/
>> > http://pnt.gov/public/2008/2008-02-turin/shaw.ppt
>>
>> Sam, considering that the existing GPS system is so good,
>> why don't the American GPS managers
>> just add new features to the system?
>>
>> Rather than hype "Interoperable"
>> to provide "better capabilities"
>> why don't they just add the "better capabilities"
>> to the American system?
>>
>
>Because, as you are fond of saying, they don't need to, when
>commercial applications and business ventures do the job for them. The
>GPS managers are infrastructure people. The business community is the
>one that makes a change in standard of living that uses it.
>
>You might want to look up "hyperlocality" in the business plans of the
>top Fortune 500 companies, as well as on the blogsphere, Wired,
>technorati, etc, etc, etc.
>
>PD
I am pleased to see that, unlike many people,
PD understands that the best approach to success
is to win the trust and respect of the masses,
and to operate an open architecture system.
Trust and respect brings supporters.
Open architecture brings creativity.
If most folks in the world
do not trust allowing America to control the GPS
and Internet systems, they will migrate to alternate systems,
and so will the people who provide creative input to the systems.
The American GPS Managers understand this,
and they are making a strong effort to
keep America in control of global navigation.
Bush and the NeoCons
have made the world look at America
as a Troll under the bridge.
http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/bill_goats_gruff.htm
The American GPS Managers have a tough job
ahead of them, if America is to continue
to control the bridge gateway.
The moral of the story is:
"Don't eat your customers."
Tom Potter
Sam makes a good point!
If someone makes open loop claims and assertions
about some subject on which they pretend to be knowledgeable,
and they avoid addressing question they have raised,
but equivocating, and attacking the messenger,
they really don't understand the subject.
Jeff▲Relf
I can see it now, little Johnny asks professor Wormley:
“ The GPS gurus aren't worried about nationalistic misuse ? ”.
and the prof replies:
“ If you have to ask, Johnny, I seriously doubt you'd understand.
Here's some good links ( you chronic idiot ). ”.
The more one acts like Uncle Al ( calling everyone a chronic kook ),
the more likely one is ( himself ) a chronic kook.
Jeff▲Relf
in the same sense that The Washington Post is “ open ”;
i.e. any one can contribute to it,
so long as he can get past the editors.
Even the Editor-in-Chief of The Washington Post is edited;
i.e. he must submit to advertisers, judges, lawyers, congressmen, etc.