To the Idiot too Stupid to Debate Math Concepts and only says "Idiot"
Perspicacious
discussion and paralyzed thinking. The word was "heretic."
You really do need to recognize your mindless rage and
honestly confront your medieval mind. If you can attain
that, then learn math next and recognize your obsession
with deceit. Try to reform. Aim to be honest. Becoming
marginally civilized will improve your sour disposition.
Time is homogeneous. It possesses an indistinguishable
sameness everywhere, point by point, across all inertial
frames of reference. There are no fatal flaws in
http://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
Bill Hobba
"Perspicacious" <iperspi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It is incredible how these sick cranks can blatantly assert what post after
post has shown is false. But to change from when he posted under Eugene
Schubert would probably be too much to ask. As Tom Roberts said about you
in 2004
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/b277fdaf88251f90
'he ignored everything I said and foists his own opinion on the reader.'
Seek help.
Bill
Eric Gisse
Perspicacious wrote:
> There was another word in the 16th century that stopped
> discussion and paralyzed thinking. The word was "heretic."
That does not mean it applies to you. The only reason people want to
see you burn at the stake is because they want to see you finally shut
the hell up.
>
> You really do need to recognize your mindless rage and
> honestly confront your medieval mind. If you can attain
> that, then learn math next and recognize your obsession
> with deceit. Try to reform. Aim to be honest. Becoming
> marginally civilized will improve your sour disposition.
Who are you talking to? People unfamiliar with your constant whining
would be confused.
>
> Time is homogeneous. It possesses an indistinguishable
> sameness everywhere, point by point, across all inertial
> frames of reference. There are no fatal flaws in
> http://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
You assume the form of the Lorentz transforms, and call it a
derivation. You still do not understand.
Sam Wormley
Time is malleable--being affected by gravitation and
velocity.
Y.Porat
and stick it once and for all to your mind:
Time is nothing but motion or translation *comparison* to some agreed
motion or translation reference'
it is a human artifact not natures creation
it is not an independent physical entity
like for instance mass or distance
and i always bring the following thinking experiment that i did while i
was less than 16 years:
suppose that a certain point of your reference motion- it will stop
for say one billion years
now at the same point of motion - not only that object will stop moving
but----
all mater in our universe will stop completely its motion
(that includes the electrons in your brain etc etc - complete
universal stop
and then after a billion years all of the previous motion will start
simultaneously (it will start motion as it was before without relative
translation of the start point
now the question is ;
will you notice those 'billion years that 'has passed ''???
no more questions !!
full stop.......for once and for all and not any 'time wast' about
that issue
btw i demand a copyright about the above notion and example. and
explanation ....
another btw i guess that my new spell checker is doing miracles for
me (:-)
sorry to forget the mane of the person who introduced it to me !
ATB
Y.Porat
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measuarable physical quantity.
It goes slower in some places than in others.
All you have to do Porat is to move into it.
Time is spread out in space.
Period.
tdp...@gmail.com
Time is the only thing that is NOT malleable.
A measurement consists of two parts,
some standard unit,
and the number of these standard units
that make up the measurement.
ALL physics properties are referenced to
whatever is selected as the standard time reference.
The standard time reference provides the ticks
that quantize time. Times are time periods which are auto-correlations
associated with some single point.
The standard time reference provides the ticks
that quantize time intervals.
Time intervals are the most fundamental measurement of spaces.
Einstein rulers are nasty temperature sensitive, pressure sensitive,
bending sensitive, contamination sensitive, acceleration sensitive
beasts.
Spaces are time intervals
which are cross-correlations associated with two points,
one being called the cause or initial point,
and the other being called the effect or end point.
Time intervals are commonly multiplied by a constant "C"
and called spaces. As can be seen, "C" can be ANY value you like, as
all it does is differentiate between time periods and time
intervals.The selection of "C" is a political process,
and commonly selected to express time intervals
in terms of some kings body parts.
Masses are aggregates of time periods (Times)
and time intervals (Spaces).
mass(object A) * G / C^3 = time interval(mass(object B))^3 / time
period(Common to both objects)^2
As can be seen G/C^3 is a universal time per mass constant.
In addition to possessing the mechanical properties
of mass, energy, momentum, etc. aggregates of time periods and time
intervals also possess the electrical properties of capacitance and
inductance.
"G", the "conductivity" of space ( G(space) = 1 / Z(space)
is the constant used to express aggregates of time periods and time
intervals in the electrical domain just as "C" is used to express time
intervals in the space domain, and "C" and "G" are used to express
time/space aggregates in the mass domain.
The following charts demonstrate these relationships:
The chart below shows expresses the properties in the time/space
domain.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
l' t[p]' acceleration
vel' One vel
g' t[p] distance
t[p]^2
Note that the acceleration of the Earth is called "g",
and that t[p] (Time periods) are functions of distance and "g".
time period^2 = distance / acceleration
The chart below shows expresses the properties in time domain.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
t[i]' t[p]' g / C
r' One r
C / g t[p] t[i]
t[p] = time period
t[i] = time interval
r = time interval / time period
The chart below shows expresses the properties in the electrical
domain.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
C' t[p]' L'
Z One Z^-1
L t[p] C
C = capacitance
L = Inductance
Z = Impedance
Note that t[p] (Time periods) are functions of inductance and
capacitance.
time period^2 = L * C
Be advised that as time periods are commonly expressed
in both cycles and in radians, it is necessary to use the
constant (2 * pi) to get the numerical result in the desired units.
It is my personal opinion that ALL properties should be expressed in
integer units based on cycles, and that the physical units that have
been contaminated with radians should be redefined.
If all properties are referenced to cycle counts,
there will only be an unambiguous plus or minus one count error,
whereas the use of radians introduces real numbers,
with the resultant ambiguity.
To sum up,
note that times are the count of ticks of the standard clock
and that time periods are auto-correlations associated with a single
point, and that time intervals are cross-correlations associated with
two points, and that the mass domain and electrical domain properties
are composites of time periods and time intervals.
In other words,
it is wasteful, confusing, and non-viable
to use models and equations promoted by
race, religion and nationality,
and to twist all of the succeeding properties
that are based on simple, quantum, integer counts
of a standard clock.
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that twists time domain, mass domain and electrical domain properties.
It generates more heat than light,
and wastes time, money and minds
on such pursuits as time travel, worm holes, black holes,
bending, warping and dragging space, etc.
Basically GR was an effort to extend stress analysis maths and theories
to the larger universe, but as the universe is more like a dynamic gas,
than it is like a solid, bound body, it is not viable to use these
techniques to model the larger universe.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
Sam Wormley
> Time is the only thing that is NOT malleable.
>
Spoken like a true crank, potter
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Tom+Potter%22+site%3Awww.crank.net
Perhaps you'll retort with something personal about me, eh Potter?
GeekBoy
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Would that be Einsteinspammer?
Y.Porat
(unless you ddint undestood waht i said and i said it in the
simpestshortest
possible way!)
ATB
Y.Porat
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tdp...@gmail.com
As can be seen, Sam Wormley's primary reference
continues to be the web site of a computer programmer,
who took some data processing classes
at a third rate California college.
It is also interesting to observe
that Sam tries to sell stuff from a Web site
that he tries to con prospective customers.
into thinking is an EDU site.
I suggest that Sam's choice of references,
his persistent use of personal attacks,
his dishonest marketing methods,
his pretension to be knowledgeable in GR and GPS,
and his reluctance to engage in
rational, intelligent, moral discussions of scientific issues,
reveals more about him, than I ever could.
Sam Wormley
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>>tdp...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Time is the only thing that is NOT malleable.
>>>
>>
>>Spoken like a true crank, potter
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Tom+Potter%22+site%3Awww.crank.net
>>
>>Perhaps you'll retort with something personal about me, eh Potter?
>
>
> As can be seen, Sam Wormley's primary reference
> continues to be the web site of a computer programmer,
> who took some data processing classes
> at a third rate California college.
>
> It is also interesting to observe
> that Sam tries to sell stuff from a Web site
> that he tries to con prospective customers.
> into thinking is an EDU site.
I'll give you 90% Potter.
TokaMundo
<iperspi...@yahoo.com> Gave us:
>There was another word in the 16th century that stopped
>discussion and paralyzed thinking. The word was "heretic."
Heretical idiot! Hahahahahaha....
TokaMundo
>As can be seen, Sam Wormley's primary reference
Snip...
Shoulda figured... Yet another pussy potter post.
tadchem
"GeekBoy" <The...@bpo.com> wrote in message
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> "Perspicacious" <iperspi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
> > ...an indistinguishable sameness everywhere,
That one's a keeper!
ROFLMAO
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
Bilge
>discussion and paralyzed thinking. The word was "heretic."
>
>You really do need to recognize your mindless rage and
>honestly confront your medieval mind. If you can attain
>that, then learn math next and recognize your obsession
>with deceit. Try to reform. Aim to be honest. Becoming
>marginally civilized will improve your sour disposition.
>
>Time is homogeneous.
What's your point? That should be obvious to anyone who
has ever derived the lorentz transforms by considering
infinitesimal displacements.
>It possesses an indistinguishable
>sameness everywhere, point by point, across all inertial
>frames of reference. There are no fatal flaws in
>http://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
If you think a complete lack of physical motivation and zero
pedagogical value is not a fatal flaw, you're still in the denial
phase.
Perspicacious
> Perspicacious:
> >Time is homogeneous.
>
> What's your point? That should be obvious to anyone who
> has ever derived the lorentz transforms by considering
> infinitesimal displacements.
Bill Hobba disagrees with you. Go instruct him.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/9a3c93b018914d4c
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/abf7a4a7d21bb362
Bilge
>Bilge wrote:
>> Perspicacious:
>> >Time is homogeneous.
>>
>> What's your point? That should be obvious to anyone who
>> has ever derived the lorentz transforms by considering
>> infinitesimal displacements.
>
>Bill Hobba disagrees with you. Go instruct him.
crap. If bill disagrees with me, I'm sure he can say so without
your help, which based on previous experience, means a deliberate
misrepresentation of what was posted or an outright fabrication
on your part. You have a reputation for being dishonest, in
addition to being a self-aggrandizing half-wit.
Perspicacious
> >> Perspicacious:
> >> >Time is homogeneous.
> >>
> >> What's your point? That should be obvious to anyone who
> >> has ever derived the lorentz transforms by considering
> >> infinitesimal displacements.
> >
> >Bill Hobba disagrees with you. Go instruct him.
>
> I'm instructing _you_,
I don't need your instruction. Bill Hobba does. He doesn't believe in
the homogeneity of time, as these two links prove:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/9a3c93b018914d4c
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/abf7a4a7d21bb362
> If bill disagrees with me, I'm sure he can say so
That assumption is completely unwarranted. Hoppa is a coward just like
you and many ignominious ignoramuses around here. You all can't get
together and agree on a specific error in the math or logic of
http://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf yet you all
whine incessantly about nonspecifics.
When there has been even the slightest hint of unanimity, experience
proves that Shubert just goes to sci.math for resolution of the dispute
resulting in the fanatical trolls of sci.physics.relativity getting
their butts kicked by competent mathematicians.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/viewtopic.php?p=3466#3466
> based on previous experience, means a deliberate
> misrepresentation of what was posted or an outright fabrication
> on your part.
So you say, but you never post links or evidence. I keep posting
links to my evidence yet you never address the facts presented
and you keep deleting my links in replies.
> You have a reputation for being dishonest
In other words, I have a huge army of nitwit crusaders who follow
me constantly, trying to besmirch my reputation with vicious lies
and serpent-like venom, but never once have they been able to
refute even one of my amazing claims with honesty and truth.