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Koos Nolst Trenite  
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 More options Jun 9 2008, 8:53 am
Newsgroups: sci.military.naval, us.military.army, alt.military, alt.military.retired, alt.true-crime
From: Koos Nolst Trenite <AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:53:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jun 9 2008 8:53 am
Subject: (rev 2.1) What is Love, and Three Parts of Love - {HRI 20080428-V2.1}
What is Love, and Three Parts of Love

                                                       28 April 2008
                                                  {HRI 20080428-V2.1}

                                                        (Version 2.1
                                                      on 9 June 2008)

                                               ('Three Parts of Love'
                                                 inspired by Suzanne)

                                               (suitable for foreign
                                                   language students)

                                                       (view Summary
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'

What is Love

Love is the desire to feel the soul of others, with the desire that
 those others feel your soul too.

      How MUCH you desire to feel and can feel the soul of others
      truly, and

      how MUCH you want to let those others and how much you can let
      those others truly feel your soul too,

      is then, together, 'how MUCH you love others.'

'

      And the same applies to others, regarding others loving you,
      isn't it.

            Whether others love you too, is thus NOT determined by
            you, but by those others themselves,

                  and by their spiritual condition,

                  how free they are to show their soul to you, for you
                  to feel who they truly are,

                        which requires someone to naturally have the
                        ability

                                    meaning, NOT smothered during
                                    childhood or adolescence, but

                              nurtured by a truly loving upbringing
                              and school time,

                              or else, which is then necessary, by
                              education about the matter, to become
                              again able

                        to see and sense and determine, to whom you
                        CAN show which parts of your soul or feelings,

                        and to whom one actually can not at all show
                        one's soul, meaning:

                              not baring those of your feelings that
                              you would show and give to others,

                              but sharing those, nevertheless very
                              true and constructive feelings from
                              your soul,

                              by which you would - naturally - face
                              and oppose Criminal Minds and their
                              helpers.  *(2)(3)(4)

'

'

'

            I repeat: Whether others love you too, is thus NOT
            determined by you, but by those others - and I beg you,

            please not make such a mistake,

                  lest you 'turn into a geisha' or get caught in
                  endlessly pleasing a Criminal Mind, or many,

                        for instance when you are trapped into
                        pleasing one or both of your parents or a
                        teacher WHEN and BECAUSE these are Criminal
                        Minds that are 'in charge of' part of your
life,

                        you "solving their malice" by pleasing or
                        loving them, *(5)(2)(3)

                 "because" - so they make you feel and believe - "YOU
                  determine whether they love you or not, by YOUR own
                  behavior or love for them." *(2)(3)

'

                        I repeat, whether others love you, is NOT
                        determined by you, but by those others them-
                        selves.

                              In fact, Criminal Minds - having all
                              in reverse - and their helpers, WILL
                              demand of you to "see and feel,"

                              that "by pleasing them sufficiently or
                              not, 'YOU determine' whether these do
                              love you or not." *(5)(2)

'

'

            It FEELS and seems indeed, in practice, that it IS you
            who determines, whether others love you or not:

                  Most people have quite a 'loving-and-being-loved'
                  nature AS A QUALITY OF THEIR SOUL,

                  so when you truly desire to feel the soul of another
                  and can do so and dare to bare your own soul to
                  those others too, for others to feel your nature
                  too, then

                  they are likely to react very favorably, and then it
                  SEEMS to you, that "you make them love you."

                        But they were already loving you to begin with

                        - which is a natural condition, normal people
                          do love each other -

                        and you merely allowed them to connect to it
                        and to express it.

                       (I already gave you an example in 'Definition
                        of Sanity,' *(2) and you will find, that I do
                        often end an HRI with an example or with a
                        suggestion in that spirit, to the reader.)

'

'

'

'

Three Parts of Love

 Love between people

      - or Love given by someone else, according to his or her nature,
        to you, which we looked at, above -

 can have a combination of three Parts (and so, Love can differ
 considerably to the degree in which these, the following Parts,
 are present):

'

1.    Strength (volume of feeling; thrilling, encompassing ability;
      ability to blast away Bad Energies and keep these away).

'

2.    Quality (level of Beauty; Care; Elegance; Sensitivity; including
      many perceptional abilities, a level of refined - appropriate
      and appreciated - creating and giving and enjoying to receive).

'

3.    Durability (tenacity; longevity; true and thus faithful to all
      Loved; naturally able to Love many without allowing fixation on
      one; not deceived and lured away from those one genuinely Loves,
      which are very many).

'

'

'

These Three Parts of Love,* may ideally be of the same magnitude, in a
 person, but these Parts in a Loving person

      - his or her Strength of Love, his or her Quality of Love, and
        the Durability of his or her Love -

 in a real relationship or friendship, in real life, are not of equal
 magnitude.

 You tend to expect, however, that great Strength of someone's Love
 for you, also does imply or suggests high Quality of Love for you,
 and automatically - inevitably I would think - it gives you the
 expectation of Durability.

'

Rather than being 'hooked' by only one of those Parts of Love, given
 to you,

      be it Strength of Love, or be it Quality of Love, or be it
      rather Durability of Love,

      when the other two of the three qualities seem implied to you
      already by ONE of the qualities being present,

 expectations are of course more accurate, and thus much more likely
 rewarded, true as they are,

 when you look at the whole, at all Three Parts of Love.

'

Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet

                                            'God gave Solomon wisdom
                                              and very great insight,
                                      and a breadth of understanding
                                                      as measureless
                                         as the sand on the seashore.'

                                                        1 Kings 4:29

'

_________
Footnotes:

(*)   This adds to 'The Promised Definition of Friendship,' and
      related HRI's:

     'The Promised Definition of Friendship'  (PDOF)
      {HRI 20050327-V3.2.1}
       (27 March 2005 - Version 3.2.1 on 16 Aug 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/810f16ae89a3bf43
http://www.geocities.com/plato_world/pdf/HRI_20050327-V2.4.1_Friendsh...

      See also 'The Canticle of Canticles' by King Solomon,

      and

     'Leonardo Da Vinci - About Aliens, Dimensions, Consciousness,
      Time, And Earth's Past And Future'
      {HRI 20040829-V3.5}
       (29 August 2004 - Version 3.5 on 19 Oct 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/a53f660dfe82afad

(1)  'Definition Of Sanity'  DOS
      {HRI 20040410-V2.0.1}
       (10 April 2004 - Version 2.0.1 on 12 May 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/767aa8ad19019afb

(2)  'The First Law of Human Rights'  (FLOHR)
      {HRI 20060601-V3.1.2}
       (1 June 2006 - Version 3.1.2 on 31 Dec 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/7965a2cb5b6384f4

(3)  'Obviously the Second Law Of Human Rights'  (SLOHR)
      {HRI 20060924-V3.2}
       (24 September 2006 - Version 3.2 on 6 Aug 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/99647b2379a3baa6

(4)  'Three Anecdotes about Koos Nolst Trenite - Intending others
      to be decent to each other - What is 'Zero Tolerance' actually'
      {HRI 20060305-V2.3}  (ZTA)
       (5 March 2006 - Issued 7 Dec 2007 - Version 2.3 on 30 May 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/e60b09110e1ad5d6

(5)  'The Rights of Criminal Minds'  (RCM)
      {HRI 20040108-V1.2.1}
       (8 January 2004 - Version 1.2.1 on 9 Aug 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/93359b640af83e20
'

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References:

     'Love On The Bridges Of Holland'
       (18 Sept 2002 - Version 2.3 on 5 July 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/nl.politiek/msg/4e3355282ca6682b

     'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
      Monotheism'  (DGC)
      {HRI 20080406-V4.6}
       (6 April 2008 - Version 4.6 on 1 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/ed5d350adb56e15a

     'Plato On Making Love - And Defining Loneliness'
      {HRI 20041114-V2.2.1}
       (14 November 2004 - Version 2.2.1 on 28 May 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.politics.misc/msg/fcb838f7c6a1e346
      {HRI 20041114-V2.0-UAA}
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.education/msg/ebdd8f227dd037e2

     'A Poem Of Love And Adventure'
      {HRI 20020717-V4.1}
       (17 July 2002 - Version 4.1 on 27 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/0fb3eb3116639a22
'

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