Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD." <><
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Considering all the libel about me, I shall continue posting from my
> books.
>
> Judge for yourself...
>
> Lie #5 � Jesus Name Has No Power (from my own free book, The Christian
> Superhero Training Guide)
>
> Agenda: If the devil can make you doubt Jesus� Name and
> authority, he can disarm you.
>
> Logical Responses:
> - If Jesus� Name is just another name, why is it attacked by
> those under the devil�s influence?
> -The Name of Jesus, God is Salvation (what it means),
> indicates a God that intervenes on behalf of man to save
> them.
>
> Scriptural Response
> Matthew 28:18 - �And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All
> power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.�
>
> Mark 16:17 � �And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my
> name shall they cast out devils��
>
> Luke 10:17 - �And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord,
> even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.�
>
> John 16:23b � �Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask
> the Father in my name, he will give it you.�
>
> Philippians 2:10 - �That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
> of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;�
>
> Confession: At the Name of Jesus, all other names (Satan, sickness,
> etc) must bow and submit.
Behold the challenge that is humbling all non-christians...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
... such is the power of Jesus' name !!!
Laus Deo !!!
Jesus is LORD !!!
Yeshua is Adonai !!!
May you and other dear friends have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year
since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1a812afc784ae683?
JohnN
wrote:
>
> Behold the challenge that is humbling all non-christians...
Why do so many intelligent christians who are moderate in politics,
generous in charity and works, devoted to peace, and tolerent of
others put up with the crap the evangelical Religious Reich throws at
America daily in the name of Jesus the Christ? When decent christians
do not protest assholes like Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson and fellow
taliban Falwell then the asses become the only speakers for Christ.
At least that is the challenge I think non-christians can't
understand.
JohnN
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Behold the challenge that is humbling all non-christians...
> >
>
> Why do so many intelligent christians who are moderate in politics,
> generous in charity and works, devoted to peace, and tolerent of
> others put up with the crap the evangelical Religious Reich throws at
> America daily in the name of Jesus the Christ?
Because we love them.
Loving them is in keeping with WDJW:
"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so
you must love one another." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 13:34)
Amen.
Similarly, we put up with you and other non-christians because this is
also in keeping with WDJW:
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may
be sons of your Father in heaven." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
5:44-45)
Amen.
We, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), are neither perfect
nor more special...
... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
May you wisely and freely choose to be forgiven too and thus become
able to publicly declare with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
David Scarlett
Why on earth would anyone in their right mind expect a non-christian to
say anything of the sort?
--
Dave (No! not THAT Dave)
eAc Conspirator in training (or I would be if it existed)
BAAWA Knight hopeful
a.a. #6449
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> Why on earth would anyone in their right mind expect a non-christian to
> say anything of the sort?
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly testify that you are unable to publicly say "Jesus
is LORD" thereby validating His ongoing proof:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/975067d314dc9026?
Laus Deo :-)
Jesus is LORD !!!
Yeshua is Adonai !!!
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Syd M.
wrote:
> neighbor JohnN wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > Behold the challenge that is humbling all non-christians...
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
>
> > Why do so many intelligent christians who are moderate in politics,
> > generous in charity and works, devoted to peace, and tolerent of
> > others put up with the crap the evangelical Religious Reich throws at
> > America daily in the name of Jesus the Christ?
>
> Because we love them.
>
PDW
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >
> And that is why you are seen as the loon you are.
Not by the discerning.
We, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), remain the only
ones truly rational keeping the commandments of LORD Almighty GOD, Who
has the power to blot out the existence of all those who displease
Him.
Bottom line:
You who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD" remain truly
irrational (ie crazy as loons).
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Nomen Publicus
> Him.
But never does. Why is that? Why isn't Dawkins a pillar of salt? Just
think of the effect on those remaining if every atheist in, say Boston, were
to burst into flames.
--
Clarence Darrow:I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >
> > ... LORD Almighty GOD, Who has the power to blot out the existence of all those
> > who displease Him.
>
> But never does.
Incorrect.
HE has.
There was an entire planet filled with evil-doing people in Noah's
time.
There was Sodom and Gomorrah in Lot's time.
There is our dearly departed Bob Pastorio as has been witnessed by all
on-line in the writings here on usenet and other areas of the internet
in the present time:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af84eabdd6f54ef1?
> Why is that?
GOD does what He desires.
> Why isn't Dawkins a pillar of salt?
Dawkins is not Lot's wife.
> Just
> think of the effect on those remaining if every atheist in, say Boston, were
> to burst into flames.
This post and the challenge it represents will be (and already is)
much more effective because this is what GOD wants in keeping with
WDJW...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
... most assuredly without a doubt, I know and understand GOD to be
kind, just, and right (Jeremiah 9:24).
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1a812afc784ae683?
Mark K. Bilbo
> Behold the challenge that is humbling all non-christians...
How to help poor Chung get the mental health care he so desperately needs?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
Adonis
wrote:
> Nomen Publicus wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
>
> > > ... LORD Almighty GOD, Who has the power to blot out the existence of all those
> > > who displease Him.
>
> > But never does.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> HE has.
>
> There was an entire planet filled with evil-doing people in Noah's
> time.
>
> There was Sodom and Gomorrah in Lot's time.
>
> There is our dearly departed Bob Pastorio as has been witnessed by all
> on-line in the writings here on usenet and other areas of the internet
> in the present time:
>
Normally children out grow belief in fairy tales and legends by at
least the early teens. Then they are intelligent enough to start
questioning everything. What is your problem, slow?
Syd
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Paul Wright (Syd M.) wrote:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6c3c7b5524ac58b1?
>
> > And that is why you are seen as the loon you are.
>
> Not by the discerning.
>
> We, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), remain the only
> ones truly rational keeping the commandments of LORD Almighty GOD, Who
> has the power to blot out the existence of all those who displease
> Him.
>
> Bottom line:
>
> You who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD" remain truly
> irrational (ie crazy as loons).
>
idiocy, and it's us who are irrational.
Go jump inna lake, Chung.
PDW
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Nomen Publicus wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
> >
> > > > ... LORD Almighty GOD, Who has the power to blot out the existence of all those
> > > > who displease Him.
> >
> > > But never does.
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > HE has.
> >
> > There was an entire planet filled with evil-doing people in Noah's
> > time.
> >
> > There was Sodom and Gomorrah in Lot's time.
> >
> > There is our dearly departed Bob Pastorio as has been witnessed by all
> > on-line in the writings here on usenet and other areas of the internet
> > in the present time:
> >
>
> Normally children out grow belief in fairy tales and legends by at
Dearly departed Bob Pastorio did not believe in fairy tales or
legends.
His problem was his suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
starvation" so that he had the irrational compulsion to overeat
thereby accumulating so much VAT that he was afflicted by coronary
heart disease plus a weakened immune system that allowed cancer to
invade and destroy his body.
Folks unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD," which is absolutely
true, are wide-open as dear Bob was and as you dear Adonis are to all
sorts of harmful delusions like "hunger is starvation," and "craving
cigarettes is bad."
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Truth
wrote:
Chunks, you haven't yet shown that you are able to publicly say "Jesus
is LORD." I asked you to post a video of yourself doing so on YouTube
to which you replied that Jesus and God didn't want you to do that
now.
So if you aren't willing or able to do so yourself publicly, and
you've declared that saying so (in this written medium of Usenet) on
the computer doesn't count, then you haven't yet been able to say
"Jesus is LORD" publicly either.
Put up or shut up, Chung.
Don Kirkman
article
<f21515b9-95cd-4ab5...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>Nomen Publicus wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
>> > ... LORD Almighty GOD, Who has the power to blot out the existence of all those
>> > who displease Him.
>> But never does.
>Incorrect.
>HE has.
>There was an entire planet filled with evil-doing people in Noah's
>time.
But somehow the flood never wiped out the koalas and kangaroos in
Australia or the pandas in China or, of course, the humans. Ever
considered the possibility that story is a didactic narrative* and not
history?
* Perhaps an exaggerated memory of an actual event; there is some
archeological evidence that suggests there was a huge local flood when
the Mediterranean eroded the natural dam and flooded the Black Sea,
which before that had a lower water level with habitations around the
ancient shorelines. A similar flood legend existed in the lore of
other Near East cultures the time.
>There is our dearly departed Bob Pastorio as has been witnessed by all
>on-line in the writings here on usenet and other areas of the internet
>in the present time:
And of course we all know Bob's crime/sin was to expose and oppose
Chung. Like those who spring up from the blood of the martyrs we have
been joined by many who were/are inspired by Bob. And Bob died a very
normal death for humans (cancer), not from the wrath of any vengeful
god.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Adonis
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Nomen Publicus wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
>
> > > > > ... LORD Almighty GOD, Who has the power to blot out the existence of all those
> > > > > who displease Him.
>
> > > > But never does.
>
> > > Incorrect.
>
> > > HE has.
>
> > > There was an entire planet filled with evil-doing people in Noah's
> > > time.
>
> > > There was Sodom and Gomorrah in Lot's time.
>
> > > There is our dearly departed Bob Pastorio as has been witnessed by all
> > > on-line in the writings here on usenet and other areas of the internet
> > > in the present time:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af84eabdd6f54ef1?
>
> > Normally children out grow belief in fairy tales and legends by at
> > least the early teens...
>
> Dearly departed Bob Pastorio did not believe in fairy tales or
> legends.
>
If he believed in jesus the christ, the world wide flood, the silly
creation story or any of the stories in the book called " the holy
bible" he then belived in myths, fairy tales, legends, lies or what
ever one may call them.
> His problem was his suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
> starvation" so that he had the irrational compulsion to overeat
> thereby accumulating so much VAT that he was afflicted by coronary
> heart disease plus a weakened immune system that allowed cancer to
> invade and destroy his body.
>
I am very glad you are not my doctor.
> Folks unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD," which is absolutely
> true,
One you have to be able to prove that jesus is lord, you can not.
> are wide-open as dear Bob was and as you dear Adonis are to all
> sorts of harmful delusions like "hunger is starvation," and "craving
> cigarettes is bad."
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Not believing the Bible to be the inerrant written Word of GOD opened
dear Bob to all the other delusions that pierced him with all sorts of
sorrows.
> > His problem was his suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
> > starvation" so that he had the irrational compulsion to overeat
> > thereby accumulating so much VAT that he was afflicted by coronary
> > heart disease plus a weakened immune system that allowed cancer to
> > invade and destroy his body.
>
> I am very glad you are not my doctor.
There are those who do not like reading the information they need in
order to understand the reason for their affliction.
> > Folks unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD," which is absolutely
> > true, are wide-open as dear Bob was and as you dear Adonis are to all
> > sorts of harmful delusions like "hunger is starvation," and "craving
> > cigarettes is bad."
>
> One you have to be able to prove that jesus is lord, you can not.
The observation that non-christians are invariably unable to publicly
say "Jesus is LORD" is GOD's proof that Jesus is LORD and not mine.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly testify that you are also unable to publicly say
"Jesus is LORD."
Laus Deo :-)
<><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >Nomen Publicus wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
>
> >> > ... LORD Almighty GOD, Who has the power to blot out the existence of all those
> >> > who displease Him.
>
> >> But never does.
>
> >Incorrect.
>
> >HE has.
>
> >There was an entire planet filled with evil-doing people in Noah's
> >time.
>
> But somehow the flood never wiped out the koalas and kangaroos in
> Australia or the pandas in China or, of course, the humans.
The flood wiped out those that GOD wanted to wipe out in keeping with
WDJW.
Truth is simple :-)
<><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Paul Wright (Syd M.) wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6c3c7b5524ac58b1?
> >
> > > And that is why you are seen as the loon you are.
> >
> > Not by the discerning.
> >
> > We, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), remain the only
> > ones truly rational keeping the commandments of LORD Almighty GOD, Who
> > has the power to blot out the existence of all those who displease
> > Him.
> >
> > Bottom line:
> >
> > You who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD" remain truly
> > irrational (ie crazy as loons).
> >
> Ri-ight.
GOD is right.
> You are the one who trolls our newsgroups, spouting crap and
> idiocy, and it's us who are irrational.
Only the irrational would deny Jesus when presented with all the
evidence about Him:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/050990a84f915420?
There is no rational explanation for why you and other non-christians
are unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" except that GOD is
preventing it.
<><
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George Peatty
<npub...@buffy.sighup.org.uk> wrote:
>Clarence Darrow:I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose.
Ol' Clarence has had a change of heart, I think ..
panam...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Nomen Publicus wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
snippy on down...
> are wide-open as dear Bob was and as you dear Adonis are to all
> sorts of harmful delusions like "hunger is starvation," and "craving
> cigarettes is bad."
The only solution to that craving is having a cigarette. Satisfying
those cravings for cigarettes is good? Damn, Andy....the diet crap was
bad enough, now you're *endorsing* smoking?
And you used to be a doctor. Shame.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
>
> The only solution to that craving is having a cigarette.
The source of your irrational compulsion is the delusion that "craving
cigarettes is bad."
Smokers who no longer suffer from this delusion know that "craving
cigarettes is wonderful" so that they no longer falsely believe they
need to smoke no matter how much they want to smoke.
<><
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Adonis
Early medical belief that people of color ( blacks ) have a different
blood type than a white person. As a result doctors did not preform
transfusions from a black to a white person. Your belief in this bible
and it's stories are as ridiculous as the belief of a different blood
between a black man and a white man. Your belief in the bible and your
holding it as inerrant is as stupid as the early medical belief that a
proper medical treatment is blood letting. If you believe the myths,
legends and out right lies of the bible, there is no telling what
medical myths you hold on too and how many people you have killed out
of shear ignorance, no matter how "innocent" your intentions may have
been. You are most likely guilty of murder.
> > > His problem was his suffering from the delusion that "hunger is
> > > starvation" so that he had the irrational compulsion to overeat
> > > thereby accumulating so much VAT that he was afflicted by coronary
> > > heart disease plus a weakened immune system that allowed cancer to
> > > invade and destroy his body.
>
> > I am very glad you are not my doctor.
>
> There are those who do not like reading the information they need in
> order to understand the reason for their affliction.
>
> > > Folks unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD," which is absolutely
> > > true, are wide-open as dear Bob was and as you dear Adonis are to all
> > > sorts of harmful delusions like "hunger is starvation," and "craving
> > > cigarettes is bad."
>
> > One you have to be able to prove that jesus is lord, you can not.
>
> The observation that non-christians are invariably unable to publicly
> say "Jesus is LORD" is GOD's proof that Jesus is LORD and not mine.
>
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
> you to unwittingly testify that you are also unable to publicly say
> "Jesus is LORD."
>
> Laus Deo :-)
>
> <><
>
Adonis
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Floyd (panamfl...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b93044306a62e55?
>
> > The only solution to that craving is having a cigarette.
>
> The source of your irrational compulsion is the delusion that "craving
> cigarettes is bad."
>
> Smokers who no longer suffer from this delusion know that "craving
> cigarettes is wonderful" so that they no longer falsely believe they
> need to smoke no matter how much they want to smoke.
>
addicts their chemistry has been changed. There is no delusion, the
need to smoke is real. In order to make the feeling go away they
either need medical intervention or gut it out till the body chemistry
changes again.
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Adonis
wrote:
> convicyed neighbor Paul Wright (Syd) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Paul Wright (Syd M.) wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6c3c7b5524ac58b1?
>
> > > > And that is why you are seen as the loon you are.
>
> > > Not by the discerning.
>
> > > We, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), remain the only
> > > ones truly rational keeping the commandments of LORD Almighty GOD, Who
> > > has the power to blot out the existence of all those who displease
> > > Him.
>
> > > Bottom line:
>
> > > You who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD" remain truly
> > > irrational (ie crazy as loons).
>
> > Ri-ight.
>
> GOD is right.
>
> > You are the one who trolls our newsgroups, spouting crap and
> > idiocy, and it's us who are irrational.
>
> Only the irrational would deny Jesus when presented with all the
> evidence about Him:
>
There is no evidence of god jesus the christ, nothing, not even a
crumb.
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/050990a84f915420?
>
> There is no rational explanation for why you and other non-christians
> are unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" except that GOD is
> preventing it.
>
> <><
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> convicted neighbor Floyd (panamfl...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b93044306a62e55?
>>
>> > The only solution to that craving is having a cigarette.
>>
>> The source of your irrational compulsion is the delusion that "craving
>> cigarettes is bad."
>>
>> Smokers who no longer suffer from this delusion know that "craving
>> cigarettes is wonderful" so that they no longer falsely believe they
>> need to smoke no matter how much they want to smoke.
>>
>The addicted smoker has a needful urge to smoke because like other
>addicts their chemistry has been changed.
Newsflash:
GOD changes our chemistry from one moment to next.
> There is no delusion, the need to smoke is real.
No smoker has ever died from not smoking.
It is only when a smoker is craving cigarettes that s/he can be
certain that s/he is not smoking.
> In order to make the feeling go away they
> either need medical intervention or gut it out till the body chemistry
> changes again.
The irrational compulsion to smoke does not end for a smoker until
s/he no longer suffers from the delusion that "craving cigarettes is
bad:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/StopSmoke
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?"
(WDJW):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
AZ Nomad
You fucking asshole. I see that you've morphed our userid again to
weasel out of killfiles.
No bother. <plonk again>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Paul Wright (Syd M.) wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6c3c7b5524ac58b1?
> >
> > > > > And that is why you are seen as the loon you are.
> >
> > > > Not by the discerning.
> >
> > > > We, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), remain the only
> > > > ones truly rational keeping the commandments of LORD Almighty GOD, Who
> > > > has the power to blot out the existence of all those who displease
> > > > Him.
> >
> > > > Bottom line:
> >
> > > > You who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD" remain truly
> > > > irrational (ie crazy as loons).
> >
> > > Ri-ight.
> >
> > GOD is right.
> >
> > > You are the one who trolls our newsgroups, spouting crap and
> > > idiocy, and it's us who are irrational.
> >
> > Only the irrational would deny Jesus when presented with all the
> > evidence about Him:
> >
> >
> > There is no rational explanation for why you and other non-christians
> > are unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" except that GOD is
> > preventing it.
>
> There is no evidence of god jesus the christ, nothing, not even a
> crumb.
You remind of the smoker who would claim there is no evidence the
smoking cigarettes is harmful:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/988ee2e141d7f4d1?
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >
>
> Early medical belief that people of color ( blacks ) have a different
> blood type than a white person.
Non sequitur.
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Adonis
wrote:
Can't follow the logic, or you refuse to see your error?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cd6bf26222926a10?
> >
> > > Early medical belief that people of color ( blacks ) have a different
> > > blood type than a white person.
> >
> > Non sequitur.
> >
>
> Can't follow the logic, or you refuse to see your error?
This would simply be a personal free will choice to not chase an
irrelevant error-riddled sentence fragment.
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Adonis
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cd6bf26222926a10?
>
> > > > Early medical belief that people of color ( blacks ) have a different
> > > > blood type than a white person.
>
> > > Non sequitur.
>
> > Can't follow the logic, or you refuse to see your error?
>
> This would simply be a personal free will choice to not chase an
> irrelevant error-riddled sentence fragment.
>
> <><
That is not error, as raciest as it appears, it is medical fact.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cd6bf26222926a10?
> > >
> >
> > Early medical belief that people of color ( blacks ) have a different
> > blood type than a white person.
>
> Non sequitur.
Listen to the man, Adonis (no, Andy, I am not addressing you)
Listen to him, because nobody -- NOBODY -- knows non-sequiturs
like Andy knows non-sequiturs.
It takes both long and constant practice to acheive his level of expertise.
-- cary
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cd6bf26222926a10?
> >
> > > > > Early medical belief that people of color ( blacks ) have a different
> > > > > blood type than a white person.
> >
> > > > Non sequitur.
> >
> > > Can't follow the logic, or you refuse to see your error?
> >
> > This would simply be a personal free will choice to not chase an
> > irrelevant error-riddled sentence fragment.
>
> That is not error, as raciest as it appears, it is medical fact.
You seem to be disconnected from reality confusing early medical
belief with medical fact.
This does happen to folks who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus
is LORD."
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Adonis
wrote:
How so? I've never said any such thing. Your delusion grows into
paranoia.
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/988ee2e141d7f4d1?
Adonis
> In article <66d8ae14-a10e-4c46-ad84-6cd58a029...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> writes:
>
> > convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cd6bf26222926a10?
>
> > > Early medical belief that people of color ( blacks ) have a different
> > > blood type than a white person.
>
> > Non sequitur.
>
> Listen to the man, Adonis (no, Andy, I am not addressing you)
>
> Listen to him, because nobody -- NOBODY -- knows non-sequiturs
> like Andy knows non-sequiturs.
>
> It takes both long and constant practice to acheive his level of expertise.
>
> -- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > smoking cigarettes is harmful:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/988ee2e141d7f4d1?
>
By what you have written about the need to smoke.
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Truth
Chunks, you yourself are unable or unwilling to publicly say that
"Jesus is LORD." I asked you to post a YouTube clip of you doing so
and you refused. Until you yourself say it publicly on YouTube no one
else will do the same. So, step up and post the YouTube clip or shut
up already.
Adonis
>
> - Show quoted text -
The need to smoke is a chemical and mental dependence, prove me wrong.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
There is simply no need to smoke.
Truth is simple.
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Adonis
>
> - Show quoted text -
So you can not do it I see. The urge is real and for some the urge
becomes a need in their mind. Prove me wrong, if you can.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Clearly you are unable to grasp the irrefutable fact that there is
absolutely no need to smoke.
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
JohnN
wrote:
> neighbor JohnN wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
>
> > Why do so many intelligent christians who are moderate in politics,
> > generous in charity and works, devoted to peace, and tolerent of
> > others put up with the crap the evangelical Religious Reich throws at
> > America daily in the name of Jesus the Christ?
>
> Because we love them.
I wasn't writing to you Chung, I was addressing intelligent christians
who actually practice christianity.
JohnN
Thommadura
The reality is that religion is a house of cards.
The evangelicals are one of the cards.
THe other cards cannot eliminate one of the cards - because it might
cause the collapse of the whole house.
IE - How do you prove their message is false without proving all of them
are?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
>
> I wasn't writing to you Chung,
Just as I am not writing to you.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly testify that you are among all the other non-
christians who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD."
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
panam...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Floyd (panamfl...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b93044306a62e55?
>
> > The only solution to that craving is having a cigarette.
>
> The source of your irrational compulsion is the delusion that "craving
> cigarettes is bad."
Craving a cigarette is why people continue to smoke them. I am quite
surprised that someone who's recieved a medical education fails to
understand such a simple fact. Craving cigarettes *is* bad, because it
makes many people continue to smoke.
> Smokers who no longer suffer from this delusion know that "craving
> cigarettes is wonderful"
No. Often, the cravings are *why* otherwise rational people continue
to smoke. Most of the time and effort ex-smokers expend to finally
leave those things behind focus upon eliminating cravings, so that
they may eventually be successful in their efforts to quit.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/56718.php
http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/what-can-trigger-craving-smoke.html
http://www.stop-smoking-updates.com/quitsmoking/cigarette-cessation/causes-of-smoking/identify-smoking-triggers-and-nip-them-in-the-butt.htm
http://www.ivillage.co.uk/health/stop/articles/0,,184700_184818,00.html
> so that they no longer falsely believe they
> need to smoke no matter how much they want to smoke.
I was about to say that I find it hard to believe that someone who
once was a doctor knows nothing about the nature of addiction, but
then I recalled that I was replying to Cap'n Earthquack.
You should have attended *this* Emory seminar...
http://www.scienceandsociety.emory.edu/robertson3.htm
Oh! That was for *faculty*! Apologies in advance if it got your little
jealousy monster rocking around inside that broken brain of yours..
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
panam...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> My sainted maiden aunt Floyd (panamfl...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, scrawled in crayon on the padded walls of his cell:
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8b93044306a62e55?
> > The only solution to that craving is having a cigarette.
> The source of your irrational compulsion is the delusion that "craving
> cigarettes is bad."
Craving a cigarette is why people continue to smoke them. I am quite
surprised that someone who's recieved a medical education fails to
understand such a simple fact. Craving cigarettes *is* bad, because
it
makes many people continue to smoke.
> Smokers who no longer suffer from this delusion know that "craving
> cigarettes is wonderful"
No. Often, the cravings are *why* otherwise rational people continue
to smoke. Most of the time and effort ex-smokers expend to finally
leave those things behind focus upon eliminating cravings, so that
they may eventually be successful in their efforts to quit.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/56718.php
http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/what-can-trigger-craving-smoke.html
http://www.stop-smoking-updates.com/quitsmoking/cigarette-cessation/c...
http://www.ivillage.co.uk/health/stop/articles/0,,184700_184818,00.html
> so that they no longer falsely believe they
> need to smoke no matter how much they want to smoke.
I was about to say that I find it hard to believe that someone who
Virgil
<75c5630d-9fc5-46f6...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> Re: Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
There is a difference between can not and choose not to, which idiot
Chung seems unaware of.
How much is Chung willing to bet on his claim?
If he makes it worthwhile, he will have lots of proof of his error.
But it may cost him.
Virgil
<75c5630d-9fc5-46f6...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> Re: Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
There is a difference between cannot and choose not to, which idiot
Virgil
> Re: Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
There is a difference between can not and choose not to, which idiot
Virgil
<ee5792d5-6e23-4226...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Truth <yama...@aol.com> wrote:
Amen!
Don Kirkman
article
<a309707f-d8b6-43d1...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >Nomen Publicus wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
>> >> > ... LORD Almighty GOD, Who has the power to blot out the existence of all those
>> >> > who displease Him.
>> >> But never does.
>> >Incorrect.
>> >HE has.
>> >There was an entire planet filled with evil-doing people in Noah's
>> >time.
>> But somehow the flood never wiped out the koalas and kangaroos in
>> Australia or the pandas in China or, of course, the humans.
>The flood wiped out those that GOD wanted to wipe out in keeping with
>WDJW.
So the Aborigines and the Chinese and the American Indians, with all
their indigenous fauna, all must have been on the boat too, I guess.
Or maybe they evolved after the boat landed on one or the other of the
two Ararats that seem to have been found.
>Truth is simple :-)
Ain't it, though!
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Virgil
> Re: Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
There is a difference between "cannot" and "choose not to", which idiot
Chung seems unaware of.
For example, without mechanical aids, Chung cannot fly. Not even with
his "Lord"'s help.
But Chung COULD give up his delusions, but just chooses not to.
Virgil
<08f6f2f3-9316-4e56...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cd6bf26222926
> > > > > > >a10?
> > >
> > > > > > Early medical belief that people of color ( blacks ) have a
> > > > > > different
> > > > > > blood type than a white person.
> > >
> > > > > Non sequitur.
> > >
> > > > Can't follow the logic, or you refuse to see your error?
> > >
> > > This would simply be a personal free will choice to not chase an
> > > irrelevant error-riddled sentence fragment.
> >
> > That is not error, as raciest as it appears, it is medical fact.
>
> You seem to be disconnected from reality confusing early medical
> belief with medical fact.
>
> This does happen to folks who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus
> is LORD."
The distribution of blood types is provably different among "blacks"
than "whites". Particularly among blacks in Africa where "blacks" tend
to have fewer "white" ancestors.
So the error seems to be more among those who publicly do claim that
Jesus is some sort of a lord.
Virgil
> Re: Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
There is a difference between can not and choose not to, which idiot
Chung seems unaware of.
How much is Chung willing to bet on his claim?
Virgil
Virgil
<3f60bdec-6f80-45ae...@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> neighbor JohnN wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/666c7b5524ac58b1?
> >
> > I wasn't writing to you Chung,
>
> Just as I am not writing to you.
Here Chung says he isn't doing what he obviously is doing!!!
And there is no health in him.
Syd
wrote:
> convicyed neighbor Paul Wright (Syd) wrote:
>
>
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> > > > And that is why you are seen as the loon you are.
>
> > > Not by the discerning.
>
> > > We, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), remain the only
> > > has the power to blot out the existence of all those who displease
> > > Him.
>
>
> > > You who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD" remain truly
> > > irrational (ie crazy as loons).
>
> > Ri-ight.
>
> GOD is right.
>
Prove god exist, mentally ill 'doctor'.
> > You are the one who trolls our newsgroups, spouting crap and
> > idiocy, and it's us who are irrational.
>
> Only the irrational would deny Jesus when presented with all the
> evidence about Him:
>
You have provided no evidence, Chung.
>
> There is no rational explanation for why you and other non-christians
> are unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" except that GOD is
> preventing it.
>
...Except that we are nonbelievers. About your god, about the muslim
god, about all gods.
If we proclaimed 'Jesus is LORD', we'd be liers.
PDW
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >Nomen Publicus wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
>
> >> >> > ... LORD Almighty GOD, Who has the power to blot out the existence of all those
> >> >> > who displease Him.
>
> >> >> But never does.
>
> >> >Incorrect.
>
> >> >HE has.
>
> >> >There was an entire planet filled with evil-doing people in Noah's
> >> >time.
>
> >> But somehow the flood never wiped out the koalas and kangaroos in
> >> Australia or the pandas in China or, of course, the humans.
>
> >The flood wiped out those that GOD wanted to wipe out in keeping with
> >WDJW.
>
> So the Aborigines and the Chinese and the American Indians, with all
> their indigenous fauna, all must have been on the boat too, I guess.
> Or maybe they evolved after the boat landed on one or the other of the
> two Ararats that seem to have been found.
GOD remains the Author of all reality retaining the awesome power to
do whatever He wants including more creating by simply speaking.
> >Truth is simple :-)
>
> Ain't it, though!
It is :-)
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
George Peatty
>> Re: Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
>There is a difference between can not and choose not to, which idiot
>Chung seems unaware of.
In this context, that is a distinction without a difference.
>How much is Chung willing to bet on his claim?
The OP's claim has the force of Scripture. I realize that is an authority
you neither recognize nor understand, but that simply underscores the point
..
Thommadura
And there is not a single piece of Autograph source material to prove
scripture is anything but fabricated nonsense. It underscore the point
that there is no "force" that can be proven behind chungs claims - or yours.
monkfish
> IE - How do you prove their message is false without proving all of them
> are?
Instead of making such a hasty generalization,
shouldn't you at least figure out
what the messages are?
What is the message of Jesus?
--
monkfish
* alt.atheism is removed from the groups header.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> convicted neighbor Virgil <Vir...@gmale.com> wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> >> Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
>
> > There is a difference between can not and choose not to, which idiot
> > Chung seems unaware of.
>
> In this context, that is a distinction without a difference.
Indeed, non-christians are in that special part of the Venn diagram
where there is an overlap with what GOD wants, which is to keep them
from being able to say "Jesus is LORD" and so they will remain unable.
> >How much is Chung willing to bet on his claim?
>
> The OP's claim has the force of Scripture. I realize that is an authority
> you neither recognize nor understand, but that simply underscores the point
Thus, GOD is glorified by the fact that GOD ultimately gets what He
wants which is in keeping with WDJW.
<><
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Cary Kittrell
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There's a point of authority and Scripture that I'd like your input
on here, George. Doctor Chung has informed us that it is a sin
to eat more than 32 ounce.s of food on any given day *. Would you
concur with this opinion?
-- cary
* see http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d5047868e271069a
Thommadura
> Thommadura wrote:
>
>> IE - How do you prove their message is false without proving all of them
>> are?
>
>
> Instead of making such a hasty generalization,
> shouldn't you at least figure out
> what the messages are?
>
> What is the message of Jesus?
>
>
Benny Hinn needs another gold Rolex - apparently!
George Peatty
Kittrell) wrote:
>There's a point of authority and Scripture that I'd like your input
>on here, George. Doctor Chung has informed us that it is a sin
>to eat more than 32 ounce.s of food on any given day *. Would you
>concur with this opinion?
Well, the Bible enjoins against gluttony (Prov 23:21), so if gluttony is
defined as > 32 oz of food, yes. Otherwise, no. Without setting specific
upper limits, I think it's a fair statement that all of us who live in the
US eat more food than is healthy for us .. So, I might argue over the
specifics, but I agree with the general point. Further, the Bible advocates
a practice that most in modern day society would consider unhealthy, namely
fasting. I think it would be good for us, physically as well as
spiritually, to embrace that notion ..
Cary Kittrell
>
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:13:41 +0000 (UTC), ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary
> Kittrell) wrote:
>
> >There's a point of authority and Scripture that I'd like your input
> >on here, George. Doctor Chung has informed us that it is a sin
> >to eat more than 32 ounce.s of food on any given day *. Would you
> >concur with this opinion?
>
> Well, the Bible enjoins against gluttony (Prov 23:21), so if gluttony is
> defined as > 32 oz of food, yes. Otherwise, no. Without setting specific
> upper limits, I think it's a fair statement that all of us who live in the
> US eat more food than is healthy for us .. So, I might argue over the
> specifics, but I agree with the general point.
As well might I. In fact, I have.
However, it is the specifics that I am asking about here. Chung
bases that on the Bible, informing us that exactly two pounds of food is
what everyone last person the world should be eating, every day:
That is how Exodus 16:16 reads thereby revealing that there is this
one right amount of food (omer) for everyone irrespective of either
gender or height or occupation.
and further, that:
"An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces." -- Holy Spirit (concerning Exodus 16:36)
Oddly enough, I cannot find a single translation of Exodus, nor
any scholarly source -- and I have looked, and mor than once --
which claims that "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces".
Are you aware of any such?
-- cary
George Peatty
Kittrell) wrote:
>Oddly enough, I cannot find a single translation of Exodus, nor
>any scholarly source -- and I have looked, and mor than once --
>which claims that "An omer of manna weighs 32 ounces".
>Are you aware of any such?
No. And, I don't see any virtue or necessity for limiting ourselves to
Israelite dietary regulations.
Cary Kittrell
And neither do I.
Andrew Chung, however, views what I have mentioned as God's
designation of the precise optimal intake of food (type
of food not specified, only weight) for every single
man and woman on the planet, regardless of any other
consideration.
-- cary
Don Kirkman
article
>> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
>> >> >> But never does.
>> >> >Incorrect.
>> >> >HE has.
>> >Truth is simple :-)
>> Ain't it, though!
>It is :-)
Yes; truth is, we can see how God works within the world he created.
We may not know all the answers about quantum physics or other
mysteries but we see that what we do know works systematically,
regularly, and predictably--i.e., in accord with scientific laws.
There is no evidence that God himself works outside those laws which
describe what he made and pronounced "good."
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Adonis
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Adonis wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > And that is why you are seen as the loon you are.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Not by the discerning.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > We, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), remain the only
> > > > > > > > > > > has the power to blot out the existence of all those who displease
> > > > > > > > > > > Him.
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > > You who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD" remain truly
> > > > > > > > > > > irrational (ie crazy as loons).
>
> > > > > > > > > > Ri-ight.
>
> > > > > > > > > GOD is right.
>
> > > > > > > > > > idiocy, and it's us who are irrational.
>
> > > > > > > > > Only the irrational would deny Jesus when presented with all the
> > > > > > > > > evidence about Him:
>
>
> > > > > > > > > There is no rational explanation for why you and other non-christians
> > > > > > > > > are unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" except that GOD is
> > > > > > > > > preventing it.
>
> > > > > > > > crumb.
>
> > > > > > > You remind me of the smoker who would claim there is no evidence that
> > > > > > > smoking cigarettes is harmful:
>
> > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/988ee2e141d7f4d1?
>
> > > > > > How so?
>
> > > > > By what you have written about the need to smoke.
>
> > > > The need to smoke is a chemical and mental dependence, prove me wrong.
>
> > > There is simply no need to smoke.
>
> > > Truth is simple.
>
> > So you can not do it I see.
>
> Clearly you are unable to grasp the irrefutable fact that there is
> absolutely no need to smoke.
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Your correct there is no need to smoke, now try reading my posts. I
say that a smoker is addicted, the need is a chemical dependence and a
mental dependence. To that person there is a need to smoke, which is
why most all smokers who want to quite need medical and many times
mental help. If this were not true there would not be the many stop
smoking aids on the market as well as the many other "helps"
available. So in a way your correct, to a non-smoker there is no need
to smoke.
Adonis
I see you never tuched on the subject of addiction in med school.
Syd
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I see you never tuched on the subject of addiction in med school.
He prolly did, and just forgot in his psychotic state.
(Kami knows, what I've forgotten is amazing.)
PDW
monkfish
Are you afraid to make the commitment
to do more good than harm?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
GOD is not limited by any of His creations.
> We may not know all the answers about quantum physics or other
> mysteries but we see that what we do know works systematically,
> regularly, and predictably--i.e., in accord with scientific laws.
Only when GOD wants things to be predictable.
> There is no evidence that God himself works outside those laws which
> describe what he made and pronounced "good."
Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is not explainable
by science.
Such is the work of the Holy Spirit.
"The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you
cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with
everyone born of the Spirit." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 3:8)
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Virgil
<58ac8bb4-16c4-4996...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is not explainable
> by science.
But is easily and often disproved by science.
All one has to do is make it worthwhile for someone to say that
publicly, and it will be done by myriads of non-xtians.
As long as those payoffs continue.
That is what is called "rice xtianity".
And it is more widespread than xtianity will admit.
The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan
wrote:
> convicyed neighbor Paul Wright (Syd) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> > > > And that is why you are seen as the loon you are.
>
> > > Not by the discerning.
>
> > > We, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), remain the only
> > > has the power to blot out the existence of all those who displease
> > > Him.
>
>
> > > You who are unable to publicly say that "Jesus is LORD" remain truly
> > > irrational (ie crazy as loons).
>
> > Ri-ight.
>
> GOD is right.
>
> > You are the one who trolls our newsgroups, spouting crap and
> > idiocy, and it's us who are irrational.
>
> Only the irrational would deny Jesus when presented with all the
> evidence about Him:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/050990a84f915420?
>
> There is no rational explanation for why you and other non-christians
> are unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" except that GOD is
> preventing it.
Where is your evidence that non-christians are unable to publically
say "Jesus is LORD"?
I would imagine that you would be unwilling to utter "Satan is LORD".
Correct?
But the fact that you do not utter this phrase is NOT proof that Satan
is the real ruler of the universe and that He prevents you from saying
it. Non-christians have no desire to say "Jesus is LORD" just as you
have no desire to say "Satan is LORD". Our desires and your desires
do not prove that either one of us is PREVENTED from doing something
we do not want to do.
If you disagree, post to Youtube a video of you saying "Satan is
LORD". I will reply with a video of me saying "Jesus is LORD". If
you are unwilling to do so, then your reasons for not doing so are as
valid as mine and neither have anything to do with the supernatural.
Don Kirkman
article
>> >> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4c17fd622f9025c?
>> >> >> >> But never does.
>> >> >> >Incorrect.
>> >> >> >HE has.
>> >> >Truth is simple :-)
>> >> Ain't it, though!
>> >It is :-)
Yet he chooses to work within the parameters of his creation.
>> We may not know all the answers about quantum physics or other
>> mysteries but we see that what we do know works systematically,
>> regularly, and predictably--i.e., in accord with scientific laws.
>Only when GOD wants things to be predictable.
Which seems to be all the time.
>> There is no evidence that God himself works outside those laws which
>> describe what he made and pronounced "good."
>Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is not explainable
>by science.
If I were truly unable to say that or anything else it *would* be
explainable by science. I prefer to do what God wants me to do, not
to pamper you with your infantile beliefs.
>Such is the work of the Holy Spirit.
>"The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you
>cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with
>everyone born of the Spirit." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 3:8)
Yet there is a physical manifestation--the sounds and the movements of
clouds and trees and waves.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is not explainable
> > by science.
>
> But is easily and often disproved by science.
>
> All one has to do is make it worthwhile for someone to say that
> publicly, and it will be done by myriads of non-xtians.
Not according to what is written in the Bible:
"...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
Amen.
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BDK
73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, lov...@thetruth.com says...
You believe an amazing amount of nonsensical bullshit.
--
BDK
BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
Cary Kittrell
>
> Thommadura wrote:
>
> > monkfish wrote:
> >> Thommadura wrote:
> >>
> >>> IE - How do you prove their message is false without proving all of them
> >>> are?
> >>
> >>
> >> Instead of making such a hasty generalization,
> >> shouldn't you at least figure out
> >> what the messages are?
> >>
> >> What is the message of Jesus?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Benny Hinn needs another gold Rolex - apparently!
>
>
> Are you afraid to make the commitment
> to do more good than harm?
Why do you flee the duality at the nexus of the numinous?
-- cary
Aaron
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
***SNIP***
Why would non Christians want to say that?
Messianic Jews use Messiah's real name, so they have no use for the
J-word. Atheists, whom I suppose you actually meant to attack, simply
don't believe it; so, they have no honest reason to say it.
There are a few Atheists who look like they are trolling religious
NG's, but I can see from the cross post that crazy people who claim to
be christians defy the biblical mandate not to attack or harass people
who do not believe in God. So, you create your own opposition by
disobeying God. No wonder Athesists post so many atricles to these
NGs. You should stop posting to alt.atheism.
Chung, since you are not a physician of any sort, and have
demonstrated that you have less knowledge of medicine than a less than
average grocery store bag boy, amybe you should stop posting/trolling
your antibiblical religious opinions in sci.med.cardiology too.
Since you are obviously uneducated and uneducateable, you should stop
posting to alt.education.
Chung, you have demonstrated that you are deeply ignorant of the
Bible. There are some people in these religious NGs who might be
willing to explain some things to you, but you would be better off
finding a church or synagogue for expert help with straightening out
your theological errors. So you should stop posting to
alt.christnet.christianlife and alt.christnet.theology too.
Don Kirkman
article
>convicted neighbor Virgil wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>> > Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is not explainable
>> > by science.
>> But is easily and often disproved by science.
>> All one has to do is make it worthwhile for someone to say that
>> publicly, and it will be done by myriads of non-xtians.
>Not according to what is written in the Bible:
>"...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
>Corinthians 12:3)
But of course you've turned it on its head [surprise, surprise!],
again because your knowledge of the Bible is abysmal. Paul is
instructing a congregation concerned whether newcomers to their group
are truly Christian, since some of them were "speaking in tongues" in
meetings. Paul tells the group that if such a person curses Jesus it
is obvious: "Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking
by the Spirit of God ever says 'Jesus be cursed!' and no one can say
'Jesus is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit."
IOW, the issue is within the Christian group, and has nothing to do
with outsiders or forcing people into belief. And so too, obviously,
it has nothing to do with *public* declarations of faith. Give it up.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
monkfish
What does it mean "to flee
the duality at the nexus of the numinous"?
Cary Kittrell
Wouldn't you like to learn how to see the One in the Many?
-- cary
monkfish
Does seeing God everwhere count?
Virgil
<d7e3abfd-c381-4bae...@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Virgil wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> >
> > > Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is not explainable
> > > by science.
> >
> > But is easily and often disproved by science.
> >
> > All one has to do is make it worthwhile for someone to say that
> > publicly, and it will be done by myriads of non-xtians.
>
> Not according to what is written in the Bible:
>
> "...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
> Corinthians 12:3)
The Bible was written before the invention of the almighty dollar, which
can influence even atheists to do such stupid things as plublicly
declaiming the lie that 'Jesus is Lord'.
If you doubt this, put up, say, a $100 prize for the each atheist who
does it and you will soon be broke and deep in debt.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Virgil wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> > >
> > > > Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is not explainable
> > > > by science.
> > >
> > > But is easily and often disproved by science.
> > >
> > > All one has to do is make it worthwhile for someone to say that
> > > publicly, and it will be done by myriads of non-xtians.
> >
> > Not according to what is written in the Bible:
> >
> > "...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
> > Corinthians 12:3)
>
> The Bible was written before the invention of the almighty dollar, which
> can influence even atheists to do such stupid things as plublicly
> declaiming the lie that 'Jesus is Lord'.
Money (30 pieces of silver) motivated Judas do the stupid thing of
betraying Jesus so that the concept of money motivating people to do
things that they otherwise would not want to do was not alien to
apostle Paul, who was inspired by the Holy Spirit to write "...no one
can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians
12:3)
Bottom line:
According to what is written in Scripture, there is no amount of money
that can make it possible for a non-christian to say "Jesus is LORD."
<><
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Virgil
<8b4fa395-0147-4bbc...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor Virgil wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Virgil wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
> > > >
> > > > > Your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" is not explainable
> > > > > by science.
> > > >
> > > > But is easily and often disproved by science.
> > > >
> > > > All one has to do is make it worthwhile for someone to say that
> > > > publicly, and it will be done by myriads of non-xtians.
> > >
> > > Not according to what is written in the Bible:
> > >
> > > "...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
> > > Corinthians 12:3)
> >
> > The Bible was written before the invention of the almighty dollar, which
> > can influence even atheists to do such stupid things as plublicly
> > declaiming the lie that 'Jesus is Lord'.
>
> Money (30 pieces of silver) motivated Judas
And can equally inspire non-xtians to do equally ugly things, despite
Chung's beliefs to the contrary.
Don Kirkman
article
>Bottom line:
>According to what is written in Scripture, there is no amount of money
>that can make it possible for a non-christian to say "Jesus is LORD."
Bottom line: you can't produce any Bible quotation about money in
this context and there is nothing linking non-christians with making a
confession of faith. Headline, bottom line, and all in between: you
lie again. Why am I not surprised.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >
>
> And can equally inspire non-xtians to do equally ugly things, despite
> Chung's beliefs to the contrary.
Publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" would be a beautiful thing for
beautiful people.
Because you and other non-christians are ugly to GOD, He really does
not want to help you do such beautiful things so that you remain
unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
"...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
Amen.
<><
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Cary Kittrell
>
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:21:35 -0500, Virgil wrote:
>
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > There is a difference between can not and choose not to, which idiot
> > Chung seems unaware of.
> >
> > How much is Chung willing to bet on his claim?
> >
> > If he makes it worthwhile, he will have lots of proof of his error.
> > But it may cost him.
>
> Well, s/he/it is simply wrong; there are hundreds of thousands of
> non-Christians who, every Saturday and Sunday, in tens of thousands of
> churches, publicly say, "Jesus is Lord."
>
> ["LORD" indicates an acronym. There are too many temptations . . . ]
Now, now...any which start with "looney" and end in "doctor"...
well, that's just not sporting, is it? Sort of like shooting
fish in the frozen fish bin.
-- cary