Re: Low-carb diets' effects linked to rise in newly identified 'starvation hormone'
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On Jun 5, 12:53 pm, Diarmid <diarmidlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-06/cp-lde053007.php
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> I love it when advanced degree pinheads examine a ***diet*** related
> issue like obesity and the goal of their research is not to resolve
> the diet issue but to find a drug.
>
> *** quote
> "What's really exciting is that mice with excess FGF21-even when they
> are fed-look like they are fasted," Kliewer said. "It's startling that
> you can give one hormone and flip the whole metabolic profile."
>
> "We think these findings would increase the desirability of a drug
> that [might work through this mechanism] to increase fat oxidation in
> the liver," added Maratos-Flier,....
> *** unquote
>
> I would be excited if I could make million$ by pushing another drug
> down peoples throats.
Would be concerned about the PPAR gamma activation by such a drug.
Afterall, Avandia is a PPAR gamma agonist.
There is also the issue of "torpor" which the investigators have
described as being part of low-carbing and fasting.
Just as fasting is an ill-advised method of losing weight, the issues
of "torpor" and lipid-peroxidation effects of hyperketonemia make low-
carbing also ill advised.
A pill would obviate the toxic effects of prolonged hyperketonemia but
may still be associated with increased CV risk through PPAR gamma
agonist activity.
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
TC
>
> "Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey Chung-turd, how's work these days? Employed yet?
Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Hey Chung-turd, how's work these days? Employed yet?
He soon will be:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Blessed.
> Employed yet?
All the time.
Laus Deo ! ! !
You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love
unconditionally.
Al
>> Hey neighbor, how's work these days?
>
> Blessed.
>
>> Employed yet?
>
> All the time.
>
> Laus Deo ! ! !
>
Incessant repetitive chungshit. Getting very tiring...
Steve Marcus
"Al" <a...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:f4646...@enews1.newsguy.com...
Your shit, on the other hand, isn't getting very tiring???
Steve
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Brindal
> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
Gee, thanks! Just what I want to be; hungrier! That'll really help
me lose weight. NOT!
Brindal
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
>
> Gee, thanks!
Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> Just what I want to be; hungrier!
You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> That'll really help me lose weight.
Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
false belief that "hunger is bad:"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?
> NOT!
Yes.
Suggested reading:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
May reading this help you to lose weight while you become hungrier as
you become healthier.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"
Cary Kittrell
> neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> >
> > Gee, thanks!
>
> Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
>
> > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
>
> You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
>
> > That'll really help me lose weight.
>
> Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> false belief that "hunger is bad:"
Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
is pleasurable.
Just as overweight pets do not overeat because they harbor
"false beliefs"; they overeat because they enjoy eating.
As they, and we, were meant to.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> > >
> > > Gee, thanks!
> >
> > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> >
> > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
> >
> > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> >
> > > That'll really help me lose weight.
> >
> > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
> >
>
> Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> is pleasurable.
Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
as is fear.
The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
physical feeling.
> Just as overweight pets do not overeat because they harbor
> "false beliefs"; they overeat because they enjoy eating.
Actually, it logically follows from the observation that overweight
folks tend to have overweight pets that they learn from their owners
the false belief that "hunger is bad."
> As they, and we, were meant to.
That would be satan's plan and not GOD's.
May HE bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> > > >
> > > > Gee, thanks!
> > >
> > > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> > >
> > > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
> > >
> > > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> > >
> > > > That'll really help me lose weight.
> > >
> > > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?
> >
> > Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> > is pleasurable.
>
> Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
> as is fear.
>
> The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
> physical feeling.
Don't be silly. Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --
I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
it. And on the very few occasions I do, it's a happy
feeling, because of the pleasurable anticipation it
creates.
I eat -- and I overeat -- because I utterly enjoy it.
>
> > Just as overweight pets do not overeat because they harbor
> > "false beliefs"; they overeat because they enjoy eating.
>
> Actually, it logically follows from the observation that overweight
> folks tend to have overweight pets that they learn from their owners
> the false belief that "hunger is bad."
Just when I thought you couldn't be any sillier, you surprise me
yet once again. Pets picking up "false beliefs" from their
owners....that's pretty much on a par with psychic therapists
for your pooch.
>
> > As they, and we, were meant to.
Actually, that would be evolution's "plan" to make sure that we
take in sufficient energy and materieals. For most organisms
throughout most of time, too much food is never, ever a problem.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gee, thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> > > >
> > > > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
> > > >
> > > > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> > > >
> > > > > That'll really help me lose weight.
> > > >
> > > > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > > > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?
> > >
> > > Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> > > is pleasurable.
> >
> > Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
> > as is fear.
> >
> > The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
> > physical feeling.
>
> Don't be silly.
Not my style.
> Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
> throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --
> I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
> it.
Then you rarely are blessed by GOD.
This simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than you have
ever been in your life.
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gee, thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
> > > > >
> > > > > > That'll really help me lose weight.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > > > > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/891fbe3b18290e4f?
> > > >
> > > > Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> > > > is pleasurable.
> > >
> > > Pleasure is not a strong enough impetus to cause deleterious behavior
> > > as is fear.
> > >
> > > The false belief that "hunger is bad" does create a fear of this
> > > physical feeling.
> >
> > Don't be silly.
>
> Not my style.
No, it's more of a failing.
>
> > Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
> > throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --
> > I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
> > it.
>
> Then you rarely are blessed by GOD.
Me and the great majority of the remaining three hundred million
Americans. Not to mention the rest of the first world countries,
including Canada, Australia, and all of Europe.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
You would be the expert here about your own behavior.
> > > Like most Americans -- and unlike most people
> > > throughout history, or indeed much of the current world --
Untrue.
"Hunger is the best pickle (seasoning)" -- Benjamin Franklin
> > > I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
> > > it.
> >
> > Then you rarely are blessed by GOD.
>
> Me and the great majority of the remaining three hundred million
> Americans.
Without the LORD, your belief that your accursed condition is like
that of "the great majority" is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Cary Kittrell
Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
of those in the developed countries.
Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
of all food grown for humans is wasted.
-- http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm
I don't know anyone who "fears hunger".
Perhaps you grew up somewhere else?
> "Hunger is the best pickle (seasoning)" -- Benjamin Franklin
Absolutely true. Hunger increases the pleasure in eating.
As I previously observed.
-- cary
TC
> In article <1181255232.388194.170...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> > neighbor Brindal wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
>
> > > Gee, thanks!
>
> > Thanks be to GOD, Who is the Source of all blessings.
>
> > > Just what I want to be; hungrier!
>
> > You can't be healthier if you are not hungrier.
>
> > > That'll really help me lose weight.
>
> > Your being overweight comes from overeating as a consequence of your
> > false belief that "hunger is bad:"
>
> Actually, people overeat from the true observation that eating
> is pleasurable.
I have to disagree. That implies that overeating is a choice. I think
we need to put some blame on the stuff they pass off as food. Highly
processed and sufar and hfcs added grains can be identified as a cause
of overeating that is completely independent of a persons choice.
We have been taught by the authorities that the culprit is fat and
that we ought to eat low-calorie carbs instead. Unfortunately, fats
are not the culprit, and the absence of healthy animal fats in the
diet with an overabundance of refined carbs leads to lack of satiation
and repeated (every 2 hours) over consumption of carbs,
For example, you get up in the morning and have a coffee laced with a
sweet flavoring agent and a bagel. At coffee-time you are starving so
you pound back a donut with your sweetened beverage, at lunch you eat
a low-fat high-carb sandwich and a sweetened beverage. At teh
afternoon coffe break, you are starving so you scarf down a chocolate
bar of a piece of cake someone left in the coffee room. For supper you
have low-fat pasta. Then in the evening you watch a movie and eat low-
fat baked crackers. The result is compulsive overeating and obesity.
And the whole time you followed the recomendations to eat less fat and
more carbs.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
No.
"Hunger is the best pickle (seasoning)." -- Benjamin Franklin
> For the first time in history, much of the
> world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
> away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
> of those in the developed countries.
Incorrect.
Hunger is experienced by healthy people who are staying healthy by
eating balanced nutritious meals. Transient loss of hunger does occur
when healthy people overeat.
Those who chronically do not experience hunger while eating balanced
nutritious meals are suffering from anorexia.
The latter symptom is an indication of poor health and does occur in
people who are dying from AIDS, cancer, starvation, etc.
Truth is simple.
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"
Bob in CT
<ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:
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>
> Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
> world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
> away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
> of those in the developed countries.
>
> Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
> of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
> of all food grown for humans is wasted.
> --
> http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm
>
Come on. Who throws away 100 pounds of food per year? That statistic is
simply wrong. In that article, there is no source for this information.
They could've simply made it up.
--
Bob in CT
Lurk@renvcom.net Pt. Lurk
news:op.ttl8t...@esq03.mfh.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6456987.stm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/costingtheearth_20050414.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4440000/newsid_4444600/4444665.stm
L.
Cary Kittrell
>
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:16:46 -0400, Cary Kittrell
> <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
> [cut]
> >
> > Entirely true. For the first time in history, much of the
> > world has more food than it can eat, give away, and throw
> > away. Hunger is experienced mostly by choice for most
> > of those in the developed countries.
> >
> > Did you know that Americans throw out more than 28 billion pounds
> > of food each year, about 100 pounds per person? A quarter to a half
> > of all food grown for humans is wasted.
> > --
> > http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/recycling/foodwast_article.htm
> >
>
> Come on. Who throws away 100 pounds of food per year? That statistic is
> simply wrong.
Beg pardon? That amounts to a little over four ounces per day,
in volume: one third of a can of Pepsi.
You find that remarkable? I don't.
-- cary
Professor Geoffrey Loftus, Saint Swithins Hospital
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:16:46 -0400, Cary Kittrell
>
100 lbs may be an underestimate. How much perfectly good food is
discarded in supermarket dumpsters simply because it's a day past
sell-by?
Cary Kittrell
And restaurants, schools, caterers...
-- cary
Professor Geoffrey Loftus, Saint Swithins Hospital
How many bushels of broccoli from one average American grade school
alone? How many pecks of Brussels sprouts? How many kilos
of kale? How many #10 institutional-size cans of succotash?
Astronomical quantities, I'd wager. Depressing to contemplate.
The Jolly Green Giant would hang himself from despair.
Andrew The Chump
> Hunger is experienced by healthy people who are staying healthy by
> eating balanced nutritious meals. Transient loss of hunger does occur
> when healthy people overeat.
Loss of hunger, you idiot, occurs when a healthy person eats sufficient
food for healthy sustenance.
>
> Those who chronically do not experience hunger while eating balanced
> nutritious meals are suffering from anorexia.
You have no idea about anorexia either it seems. Anorexics experience
hunger, they simply ignore it because they have a more urgent psychological
need to fulfil.
>
> The latter symptom is an indication of poor health and does occur in
> people who are dying from AIDS, cancer, starvation, etc.
>
> Truth is simple.
Chung is simple, he is simply a simpleton.
>
> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you hungrier than ever.
I told you, there is no God, he was subject to a factory recall.
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Jesus was lost to the world as a result of parental neglect. Get used to it.
Wholly spirit (Well most of the time, sometimes I add soda water)
Andrew The Chump
>
>> I never give hunger a second thought. I rarely experience
>> it.
> Then you rarely are blessed by GOD.
There is no God, he has left the building.