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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 25, 2009, 11:47:25 AM5/25/09
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"Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular
virology and microbiology, last week began collecting blood samples
from local swine flu patients that will be used in the development of
a vaccine in anticipation of the virus returning this fall. Keitel,
the lead investigator of the national effort, talked with Chronicle
reporter Todd Ackerman about the new virus, the seasonal flu and the
lure of a so-called universal flu vaccine that would work against all
types of flu.

Q: What role will the blood samples play in developing a vaccine?

A: We are not making a vaccine at Baylor. What these samples will do
is enable us to understand how the body develops an immunity against
the illness. The changes from when sufferers are acutely ill to when
they are getting better can help us figure out how a vaccine should
perform. That�s important in vaccine trials.

Q: What�s the likelihood we�ll have an effective swine flu vaccine in
ample supply this fall?

A: Good. Most seasonal influenza vaccine production will be done by
the end of July so manufacturers will be able to switch their
manufacturing capacity to swine flu at that time if it appears the
virus will circulate again when influenza season starts.

Q: What are the chances the virus could mutate significantly from what
we�re seeing now?

A: The most important thing people need to understand about the
influenza virus is that it�s a wily and unpredictable foe. We already
know that an H1N1 virus went from mild to severe in the 1918 pandemic.
That doesn�t mean that this one will. I think you hope for the best
and you anticipate there could be a change in the virulence. But even
if doesn�t change to become more virulent, it�ll likely still cause
widespread infections, deaths, doctors visits, hospitalizations and
secondary pneumonias � what we see every year with seasonal influenza.
Q: To experts in the field, does it seem unacceptable that 36,000
people a year die from the flu?

A: Certainly, it�s not acceptable to us. Over 90 percent of people who
die from seasonal flu are elderly, whose immune systems aren�t as
strong and tend to have underlying chronic conditions that can
increase their risk for complications of influenza. So there has been
a tremendous effort to develop specific vaccines for the protection of
the elderly and other people with underlying conditions.

Q: Is it true we still don�t know that much about the flu?

A: We know a lot about the flu, but we still have a lot to learn. Over
the past 10 years, the medical community�s growing awareness of the
huge impact flu has on individuals and in populations has led to a
progressive expansion of immunization efforts against influenza.
There�s even a move toward a universal immunization against influenza,
vaccines that may stimulate immunity that lasts longer than a year.
But those are hopes and dreams still.

Q: What are common misconceptions about flu viruses, generally?

A: The most common misconception is that it�s not a big deal, it�s
just the flu. It�s that perception that for many years undermined
efforts to control it.

Q: There seems to be a growing consensus now that adults do have some
natural protection against swine flu, is that right? At what age does
that start?

A: When they�ve tested blood from older people, they tend to have
detectable levels of antibodies to this virus, whereas younger people
don�t. We think it may be related to an H1N1 virus that circulated
before 1957 and then disappeared. People born before then may have
been exposed to closely related viruses and have some immunity.

Q: Why do you think swine flu caused so much more death in Mexico and
seems relatively mild here?

A: I think we haven�t seen the end of it here yet. It�s not over until
it�s over. I suspect it was more widespread in Mexico than reported,
which would mean the death rate wasn�t as high as it seemed. That�ll
be the subject of investigation. But it�s premature to draw any
conclusions about whether it�s worse or better here yet.

Q: Has anything about this outbreak better prepared us for the next
epidemic?

A: Yes. The concern about bird flu, H5N1, resulted in a concerted
prevention effort that I think better prepared us for this, but this
outbreak still exposed public health system gaps: We had shortages of
rapid diagnostic tests for our labs; we had inadequate supplies or
ability to get antivirals into areas where disease was occurring; and
our surveillance system had huge weaknesses � we had a large outbreak
that was already international before we even knew it was occurring."

Source:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6438722.html

What we are teaching to prepare folks in our local communities for the
possible eventuality of a deadlier Pan-Flu:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/Pan-Flu

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Human Geneticist, Molecular Biologist,
Board-certified Cardiologist,
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
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panam...@hotmail.com

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May 25, 2009, 11:54:39 AM5/25/09
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On May 25, 11:47 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu>
wrote:

> "Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular
> virology and microbiology,

..actually has a *real* practice! You should learn something from him,
Andy.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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May 25, 2009, 12:02:08 PM5/25/09
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""Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular
virology and microbiology, last week began collecting blood samples
from local swine flu patients that will be used in the development of
a vaccine in anticipation of the virus returning this fall. Keitel,
the lead investigator of the national effort, talked with Chronicle
reporter Todd Ackerman about the new virus, the seasonal flu and the
lure of a so-called universal flu vaccine that would work against all
types of flu."

We need more information like this from the experts in the field.

Anyone else claiming to be a source of valid information should be
measured by their other contributions to these newsgroups.

If they are flakey in most areas they will likely be so in the area of
flu.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 25, 2009, 12:19:41 PM5/25/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7251834f8922d5d9?

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Panama Floyd, so that you would come to
trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 25, 2009, 12:20:43 PM5/25/09
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What we are teaching to prepare folks for the possible eventuality of
a deadlier Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

Bob Larter

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May 25, 2009, 1:29:17 PM5/25/09
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panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On May 25, 11:47 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu>
> wrote:
>> "Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular
>> virology and microbiology,
>
> ..actually has a *real* practice! You should learn something from him,

Yeah. Lesson one would be "How not to get kicked out of the medical
profession."

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. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 25, 2009, 1:49:14 PM5/25/09
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Bob Larter wrote:
>PF wrote:

>> Andrew, in the Holy Spririt, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> "Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular
>>> virology and microbiology,
>>
>> ..actually has a *real* practice! You should learn something from him,
>
>Yeah. Lesson one would be "How not to get kicked out of the medical
>profession."

Lesson one for you two would be that if someone's name is Wendy, she's
a her and not a him :-)

Lesson two is to take pre-med virology and microbiology classes in
college to learn that Dr. Wendy Keitel is not a physician.

Lesson three is to apply to enter into medical school to discover that
folks like you are kept out of the medical profession while folks with
MD/PhD degrees are kept in the medical profession.

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Bob, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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May 25, 2009, 3:53:53 PM5/25/09
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""Dr. Wendy Keitel, a Baylor College of Medicine professor of molecular

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 25, 2009, 4:21:03 PM5/25/09
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/251c10f7913d9afb?

>
> We need more information like this from the experts in the field.

What you need is to be rebuked.

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile) continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:

Ethereal Engineer

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May 28, 2009, 11:51:00 PM5/28/09
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Andrew Chung:

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)


Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)


Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days


Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals


Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website


Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)


Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.


Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.


Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe


Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.


Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.


Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.


Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".


Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.


Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 29, 2009, 1:37:59 AM5/29/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b32c5d6a93cd0ed2?

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any
time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Cardiologist

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