Re: Helping a relative with type 2
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> I wonder if you good folk would cast your eyes over a small bunch of
> information that I want to give to my sister-in-law so she can better
> guide her husband, my brother-in-law who is 70, grossly overweight (so
> much so that he cannot have a needed cornary bypass until he loses
> weight. So he apparently won't lose weight now because he is terrified
> of the heart operation.)
>
> He was recently in hospital with a couple of blood clots in his lungs.
> Because he is pig-headed and won't listen to anyone much, (especially
> me) I don't know what treatment he is receiving for his diabetes.
>
> What I wrote was what I have gleaned from studying latest info on the
> web. I have a quasi-medical (non-clinical) background, so that much of
> the stuff I understood pretty well.
>
> Anyone got any suggestions, or corrections to my little set of notes?
> The main thing I want to get across is the importance of keeping your
> blood glucose low, and of course, always knowing what it is.
>
> He knows he has to exercise, and is being guided by a dietician, but I
> don't know what advice has been given, or what in reality he actually
> does. My motive in this? I don't want my wife to lose two brothers so
> close together. The other one sucumbed to a clot in the lungs.
>
> 1. Diabetes 2 (Adult Onset, Non Insulin Dependent Diabetes Mellitus --
> NIDDM) is regarded as a dyslipidaemia. That is a fat metabolism
> problem.
This is two problems in one. First, there is the insulin resistance,
which is also known as metabolic syndrome (MetS) that has arisen as a
consequence of systemic inflammation driven by inflammatory cytokines
from visceral adipose tissue (VAT). Next, there follows eventual
failure of the pancreas to produce enough insulin because of having to
put out so much to overcome the insulin resistance for too long.
> 2. The wrong fats are toxic to (among other things) the cells which
> make insulin.
Incorrect. It is the VAT that is killing off the cells that make
insulin (pancreatic beta islet cells)
> 3. The insulin produced does not work well, and so the insulin rises
> to compensate, and causes its own set of problems.
The pancreas eventually tires out.
> 4. The insulin not working properly (insulin resistance) causes the
> blood glucose to rise.
Not enough insulin to overcome the insulin resistance causes the blood
glucose to rise.
> 5. Glucose is toxic to body cells, but as it is necessary, we can just
> tolerate low levels of it (some theories are about which blame glucose
> for the ageing process)
Persistently elevated levels of glucose is toxic.
> 6. The raised glucose levels start their nasty toxic activities with
> small peripheral blood vessels (feet, eyes, kidneys, heart etc) and of
> course, the cells that make insulin, which exacerbates the problems.
For type-2 diabetes, there pre-exists damage to blood vessels from the
years of MetS preceding the diabetes.
> 7. It is thought that this dyslipidaemia is a mechanism that helps
> with survival in times of starvation. It certainly doesn't help when
> there is a constant, abundant supply of calorie-concentrated foods.
The dyslipidemia is a consequence of the MetS. Starving folks have
neither MetS nor the associated dyslipidemia of MetS.
> 8. The way out is to exercise (reduces insulin resistance), restrict
> calories (reduces the fat depots around the middle which contributes
> to the original dyslipidaemia), and keep the blood glucose as low as
> possible (with medication and food avoidance, if necessary).
Here is the underlying problem with its solution:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
> 9. That requires measuring blood glucose levels routinely. Straight
> after each meal, and several hours after each meal. This will show how
> much various foods "spike" your blood glucose level, (and so should be
> avoided -- different foods have different effects on different
> people) and how well your medication is working.
The purpose of monitoring blood glucose is to adjust down the diabetic
medications as insulin resistance wanes as VAT is lost.
> 10. The main thing is to test, test, test, otherwise you won't know
> what is happening to your body. Imagine how terrifying this disease
> must have been a few decades ago with no blood testing. The only way
> you knew your sugar was too high was when it spilled over into your
> urine, at which level it is doing much damage to your body.
The main thing is overcoming the brainwashing that "hunger is bad."
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
> Thanks in advance for any help,
You are welcome.
All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Jack whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
trut...@meditation.com
serious consideration at all. I bother to mention this because we don't
want any new posters to be taken in by him. He is not up to date on
diabetes research, he ignores clear scientific evidence which
contridicts his opinions, he distorts information to serve a
non-scientific agenda, he can be completely ignored as to his opinions
as to diabetes because the truth is not in them.
Kurt Gavin
<trut...@meditation.com> wrote in message
news:458be76d$0$24649$1c46...@selenium.club.cc.cmu.edu...
This poster is correct. Mr. Chung has abandoned medical science in favor of
superstition.
He has even advocated eating 2 pds daily of any type food (2 pds of sugar,
even). He bases this on an obscure passage in the bible.
Mr. Chung has deserted from the real world, and anything he says cannot be
taken as well based, and may actually cause harm.
TC
job in the medical field and all? What are the legal ramifications of
an unemployed medical person giving medical advice?
TC
Al
In addition to the previous posts about his lack of competence, Chung
also lies.
>>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >>> > > Did not attempt exorcism.
>
> Then I wrote:
>
> > Wanna bet, Chung? Here's EXACTLY what you said:
>
> > "In the infinitely powerful and holy name of LORD Jesus Christ, I
> > command you, demon, to come out and leave Philip before our LORD
> > personally destroys you. "
>
> > Chung caught in a boldfaced lie!
Xo bware, and ignore his posts!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Are you allowed ro dispense medical advice?
This is not medical advice.
> Seeing that you lost your
> job in the medical field and all?
Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your visual
hallucinations.
> What are the legal ramifications of
> an unemployed medical person giving medical advice?
Ask Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
... or the Board of Advisors of the Wellness Foundation:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
TC whom I love unconditionally.
Pastor Kutchie
Al wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c5020d05afbab374
Quote:-----------------------------------------
Now imagine what will happen when they are directly addressed and
commanded to leave in the holy name of LORD Jesus Christ.
They know this and so they are frantic.
They have already witnessed Phillip's demon being exorcised.
End quote------------------------------------
Oops!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> unnamed demon wrote:
> > Mr. chung's opinions in the field of diabetes are not to be given any
> > serious consideration at all. I bother to mention this because we don't
> > want any new posters to be taken in by him. He is not up to date on
> > diabetes research, he ignores clear scientific evidence which
> > contridicts his opinions, he distorts information to serve a
> > non-scientific agenda, he can be completely ignored as to his opinions
> > as to diabetes because the truth is not in them.
>
> In addition to the previous posts about his lack of competence, Chung
> also lies.
It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
The 2PD-OMER Approach now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not diabetes) that is of this
world:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
This victory belongs to GOD, Creator of heaven and earth...
KING of kings and LORD of lords (Revelation 19:16)
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to surrender to
HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or depression so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Al whom I love unconditionally.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> spam...@spam.heaven wrote in message ...
> >I wonder if you good folk would cast your eyes over a small bunch of
> >information that I want to give to my sister-in-law so she can better
> >guide her husband, my brother-in-law who is 70, grossly overweight (so
> >much so that he cannot have a needed cornary bypass until he loses
> >weight. So he apparently won't lose weight now because he is terrified
> >of the heart operation.)
> >
> >He was recently in hospital with a couple of blood clots in his lungs.
> >Because he is pig-headed and won't listen to anyone much, (especially
> >me) I don't know what treatment he is receiving for his diabetes.
> >
> >What I wrote was what I have gleaned from studying latest info on the
> >web. I have a quasi-medical (non-clinical) background, so that much of
> >the stuff I understood pretty well.
> >
> >Anyone got any suggestions, or corrections to my little set of notes?
> >The main thing I want to get across is the importance of keeping your
> >blood glucose low, and of course, always knowing what it is.
> >
> >He knows he has to exercise, and is being guided by a dietician, but I
> >don't know what advice has been given, or what in reality he actually
> >does. My motive in this? I don't want my wife to lose two brothers so
> >close together. The other one sucumbed to a clot in the lungs.
> >
> >
> >1. Diabetes 2 (Adult Onset, Non Insulin Dependent Diabetes Mellitus --
> >NIDDM) is regarded as a dyslipidaemia. That is a fat metabolism
> >problem.
> >
> >make insulin.
> >
> >to compensate, and causes its own set of problems.
> >
> >blood glucose to rise.
> >
> >tolerate low levels of it (some theories are about which blame glucose
> >for the ageing process)
> >
> >small peripheral blood vessels (feet, eyes, kidneys, heart etc) and of
> >course, the cells that make insulin, which exacerbates the problems.
> >
> >with survival in times of starvation. It certainly doesn't help when
> >there is a constant, abundant supply of calorie-concentrated foods.
> >
> >calories (reduces the fat depots around the middle which contributes
> >to the original dyslipidaemia), and keep the blood glucose as low as
> >possible (with medication and food avoidance, if necessary).
> >
> >after each meal, and several hours after each meal. This will show how
> >much various foods "spike" your blood glucose level, (and so should be
> >avoided -- different foods have different effects on different
> >people) and how well your medication is working.
> >
> >what is happening to your body. Imagine how terrifying this disease
> >must have been a few decades ago with no blood testing. The only way
> >you knew your sugar was too high was when it spilled over into your
> >urine, at which level it is doing much damage to your body.
> >
>
> Mostly in accord with the better medical sites. The stuff about the fats
> is a bit out of tune but just a bit (It's free fatty acids produced by
> Omental Fat.) Also, there is a genetic defect which allows amyloid
> polypeptides (IAPP) to accumulate within beta cells and kill them
> (apoptosis). But the mechanisms don't really matter that much, just the
> effects and the proper techniques for dealing with them.
>
> One important consideration you skipped: Type 2 is almost certainly a
> genetic disease.
Actually it is not.
We now know that without the visceral adipose tissue (VAT) that is the
source of the inflammatory cytokines that fuel the systemic
inflammatory cascade that leads to metabolic syndrome (MetS), type-2
diabetes would have never arisen.
Here's how to lose the VAT:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
This now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> spam...@spam.heaven wrote:
>
> : 3. The insulin produced does not work well, and so the insulin rises
> : to compensate, and causes its own set of problems.
>
> become overworked and stop working or die. As a result, less inulin is
> being produced, resulting in high blood glucose levels. this is the
> point at which Diabetes is usually recognized, rahter than just insulin
> resistance (or a kind of pre-diabetes)
>
> : 4. The insulin not
> working properly (insulin resistance) causes the : blood glucose to rise.
>
>
>
> add here-carbohydrate consumption, giving the insulin you lhave left less
> glucose to deal with.
>
> : calories (reduces the fat depots around the middle which contributes
> : to the original dyslipidaemia), and keep the blood glucose as low as
> : possible (with medication and food avoidance, if necessary).
>
> : 9. That requires measuring blood glucose levels routinely. Straight
> : after each meal, and several hours after each meal. This will show how
>
> see how much rise you get from the foods ou are about to eat adn to know
> how many carbohydrates you should include in the meal. You test at 1
> and 2 hours after you eat to measure the effedcts the food has on YOUR
> body.
>
> : much various foods "spike" your blood glucose level, (and so should
> be : avoided -- different foods have different effects on different
> : people) and how well your medication is working.
>
> : 10. The main thing is to test, test, test, otherwise you won't know
> : what is happening to your body. Imagine how terrifying this disease
> : must have been a few decades ago with no blood testing. The only way
> : you knew your sugar was too high was when it spilled over into your
> : urine, at which level it is doing much damage to your body.
>
> see need to change these points.
>
> If you are trying to influence a non-compliant diabetic, you may well hav
> eto emphacise the terrible conseuences of the high blood sugar like the
> heart problems he is having, amputain, blindness, kidney failur which can
> lead to dialysis. Scary stuff that keeps many of us on the "straight and
> narrow."
Wiser to help the type-2 diabetic lose the visceral adipose tissue
(VAT) that is causing his disease:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
This method now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Wendy whom I love unconditionally.
spam...@spam.heaven
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
Thanks for your response, Andrew, but do you mind if I ignore it, as I
can't quite reconcile the veracity of advice given with someone who
apparently believes in the nonsense that you do.
You obviously don't believe in evidence-based medicine.
Have you had professional help for the apparent persistent disjunction
of your two brain hemispheres (bicameral mind)?
Keep telling yourself that the voices you are hearing are coming from
your own head. It is just your hemispheres talking to each other.
If you still have some cognitive ability, you might gain from reading
Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion. He writes incredibly well.
Best wishes, jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp
> Thanks for your response, Andrew, but do you mind if I ignore it, as I
> can't quite reconcile the veracity of advice given with someone who
> apparently believes in the nonsense that you do.
> You obviously don't believe in evidence-based medicine.
>
> Have you had professional help for the apparent persistent disjunction
> of your two brain hemispheres (bicameral mind)?
>
> Keep telling yourself that the voices you are hearing are coming from
> your own head. It is just your hemispheres talking to each other.
>
> If you still have some cognitive ability, you might gain from reading
> Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion. He writes incredibly well.
>
> Best wishes, jack
Richard Dawkins is indeed suffering from a strong delusion from GOD...
... as did Charles Darwin:
Indeed, there is no such thing as evolution because the Mother Nature
that Charles Darwin posited in his "Origin..." book does not exist.
Everything that the world would attribute to chance (ie Mother Nature)
happens by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth (Proverbs 16:33).
You will develop metabolic syndrome (MetS) if you choose to overeat and
accumulate visceral adipose tissue (VAT):
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
... and none would develop type-2 diabetes in the absence of VAT:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
... this is the way to safely lose the VAT permanently:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
.... that now comes with a US$1,000,000.00 guarantee:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<snip>
> Just as an added bonus, do you know what the mechanism of the
> evolutionary advantage of this metabolic syndrome is?
No such thing as evolution because the Mother Nature that Charles
Darwin posited in his "Origin..." book does not exist.
Everything that the world would attribute to chance (ie Mother Nature)
happens by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth (Proverbs 16:33).
> Our Australian aborigines are incredibly prone to metabolic syndrome
> and subesequent type 2 when they eat a calorie dense Western diet
All would develop metabolic syndrome (MetS) if they choose to overeat
spam...@spam.heaven
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement I will respond to you a second and last
time. I somehow feel that you have avoided such confrontation many
times.
>Richard Dawkins is indeed suffering from a strong delusion from GOD...
All based on clear evidence of which you have none, for your silly
superstitous beliefs.
>... as did Charles Darwin:
>Indeed, there is no such thing as evolution because the Mother Nature
>that Charles Darwin posited in his "Origin..." book does not exist.
Charles Darwin posited no such thing. Chance neither. You should try
to read them with an open mind. Difficult, I know, with your voices,
and their mental-sapping propensities.
>Everything that the world would attribute to chance (ie Mother Nature)
>happens by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth (Proverbs 16:33).
What chance are you talking about? The chance that there is some
omniscient, omnipotent and patently incompetant overseer of the Earth?
That chance is surely infinite against, compared with the very likely
chance of life commencing where the chemistry is suitable.
All that is needed is a molecule which can copy itself. Just about
completed in the laboratory, last I heard.
Evolution is then a piece of cake. Almost a foregone conclusion
requiring no chance at all. Try and stop it.
Tell me, who gave you these degrees that you claim? Or did you
purchase them? Has your registering body had anything to say about
your weird views? Rhetorical questions. Don't bother not answering.
>You will develop metabolic syndrome (MetS) if you choose to overeat and
>accumulate visceral adipose tissue (VAT):
Which is not born out by simple observation of all the fat people over
80. Many have metabolic syndrome, and many don't. Go figure!
>... and none would develop type-2 diabetes in the absence of VAT:
Well that depends on your definition of type 2 DM.
Are there no thin folk with type 2? Thought so. Back to the drawing
board. I knew I was right about your faulty advice.
And do you always avoid awkward questions?
I won't bother reading your response. I know what it will say.
And I promise not to cross post any more to all the groups you are
presently annoying. Regards, and goodbye, jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> Against my better judgement I will respond to you a second and last
> time. I somehow feel that you have avoided such confrontation many
> times.
>
> >Richard Dawkins is indeed suffering from a strong delusion from GOD...
>
> All based on clear evidence of which you have none, for your silly
> superstitous beliefs.
You will find no other plausible explanation for the existence of
visceral adipose tissue (VAT) in the face of the existence of
subcutaneous adipose tissue (SAT) except GOD, Creator of heaven and
earth.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
jud...@courtroom.com
visceral adipose tissue (VAT) in the face of the existence of
subcutaneous adipose tissue (SAT) except GOD, Creator of heaven and
earth."
Blaming God for vat are we?
Stan Horwitz
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> neighbor Al wrote:
> > unnamed demon wrote:
> > > Mr. chung's opinions in the field of diabetes are not to be given any
> > > serious consideration at all. I bother to mention this because we don't
> > > want any new posters to be taken in by him. He is not up to date on
> > > diabetes research, he ignores clear scientific evidence which
> > > contridicts his opinions, he distorts information to serve a
> > > non-scientific agenda, he can be completely ignored as to his opinions
> > > as to diabetes because the truth is not in them.
> >
> > In addition to the previous posts about his lack of competence, Chung
> > also lies.
>
> It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
Truthfully? If that's what you think your ravings are, fine, but most
people have accurately dubbed you as a kook. If you're content to live
life as a kook, more power to you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > > unnamed demon wrote:
> >
> > > > Mr. chung's opinions in the field of diabetes are not to be given any
> > > > serious consideration at all. I bother to mention this because we don't
> > > > want any new posters to be taken in by him. He is not up to date on
> > > > diabetes research, he ignores clear scientific evidence which
> > > > contridicts his opinions, he distorts information to serve a
> > > > non-scientific agenda, he can be completely ignored as to his opinions
> > > > as to diabetes because the truth is not in them.
> > >
> > > In addition to the previous posts about his lack of competence, Chung
> > > also lies.
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
>
> Truthfully?
Yes.
> If that's what you think your ravings are, fine, but most
> people have accurately dubbed you as a kook.
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> If you're content to live
> life as a kook, more power to you.
The power is all GOD's:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety and panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Stan whom I love unconditionally.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> In article <te4no2tta2pci8acl...@4ax.com>,
> spam...@spam.heaven wrote:
>
> > I wonder if you good folk would cast your eyes over a small bunch of
> > information that I want to give to my sister-in-law so she can better
> > guide her husband, my brother-in-law who is 70, grossly overweight (so
> > much so that he cannot have a needed cornary bypass until he loses
> > weight. So he apparently won't lose weight now because he is terrified
> > of the heart operation.)
> >
> > He was recently in hospital with a couple of blood clots in his lungs.
> > Because he is pig-headed and won't listen to anyone much, (especially
> > me) I don't know what treatment he is receiving for his diabetes.
> >
> > What I wrote was what I have gleaned from studying latest info on the
> > web. I have a quasi-medical (non-clinical) background, so that much of
> > the stuff I understood pretty well.
> >
> > Anyone got any suggestions, or corrections to my little set of notes?
> > The main thing I want to get across is the importance of keeping your
> > blood glucose low, and of course, always knowing what it is.
>
> severely overweight.
More than 85% of Americans are heavier that optimal.
This is coming from folks having been brainwashed to believe that
hunger is bad:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
GOD has compelled me to throw down the gauntlet:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Shawn whom I love unconditionally.
T
lov...@thetruth.com says...
You sneaky little bastard! You've gotten past my filters again! Take
your god delusion elsewhere.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> You've gotten past my filters again!
"For man this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible." --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> Take your god delusion elsewhere.
Actually, GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, is the One Who brought me
here.
This victory belongs to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
If you choose to revere HIM, HE will help you dread nothing (especially
not diabetes) that is of this world:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you wisely choose to
surrender to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Tony whom I love unconditionally.
Shawn Hirn
Typical ravings of a loon. Like I said, if you're content to live your
entire life as a kook, more power to you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The power is all GOD's:
> >
> > http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
>
> Typical ravings of a loon.
Simply an on-line newspaper article.
Your name-calling and confusion simply show that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
This victory belongs to LORD Jesus Christ, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
If you wisely choose to reverently fear GOD, HE will help you dread
nothing that is of this world:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you wisely choose to
surrender to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more dear neighbor
Shawn whom I love unconditionally.
Mr. Natural-Health
Andrew B. Chung
chung; have your relative post directly.
Mr. Natural-Health
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> chung; have your relative post directly.
All those who do the will of my heavenly Father are my relatives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
john...@naturalhealthperspective.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> > chung; have your relative post directly.
>
> All those who do the will of my heavenly Father are my relatives:
Pastor Kutchie
Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung
>
> chung; have your relative post directly.
It appears they have all disowned him. Do you blame them?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
> > Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
> > >
> > > chung; have your relative post directly.
> >
> > All those who do the will of my heavenly Father are my relatives:
>
> have them post, anyway
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are all around you. Simply open your
eyes:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
John whom I love unconditionally.
habshi
anything to solve the energy crisis or an asteroid hitting us , and
waste their precious time on earth praying.
And recently bugs have been found which make us fat, see my article in
sci.med and they might be used in these batteries
excerpt
Well, I think they’re missing something. The scientific
world-view is so exciting, so breathtakingly enthralling when you
think of what we now understand. Here we are sitting on a planet that
may possibly be the only planet in the entire universe which has
anything like life. We don’t have it for long. What a shame to spend
your few decades grizzling and grumbling about your lot when you could
be revelling in the fact you exist at all.” And religion is the
barrier to such pleasures? “I think so, yes.”
There was plenty of science in Dawkins’s childhood. His father worked
in east Africa for the Colonial Service as a specialist in tropical
agriculture. The family returned to Britain when Dawkins was eight.
He recalls his upbringing as casually Anglican. “But at the age of
nine I realised there were lots of religions so I worked it out that
they couldn’t all be right. At 13 I was prepared for confirmation and
briefly took it up again, but then at 16 I finally gave it up for good
when I discovered Darwinism
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Also we must stop believing in God as religious people dont do
> anything to solve the energy crisis or an asteroid hitting us , and
> waste their precious time on earth praying.
This cure for obesity came from GOD and not from either atheistic or
religious folks.
The problem:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
The solution:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
The guarantee:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
Laus Deo ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Habshi whom I love unconditionally.
Jaguar
i hope your relative dies, asshole!!!
Doug Freese
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1167203868....@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> habshi wrote:
>> Also we must stop believing in God as religious people dont do
>> anything to solve the energy crisis or an asteroid hitting us , and
>> waste their precious time on earth praying.
>
> This cure for obesity came from GOD and not from either atheistic or
> religious folks.
If so, she's doing a piss poor job of it along with allowing wars(inter
aand intra), disease, and best of all diffent religions, to kill
people, and don't give me a boat load of shit how this all part some
bigger picture, yada, yada. In many religions, and I won't be nasty
enough to say which, religion is used to amass wealth and mostly POWER
and just enough soul work to keep the coffers full. Which god gave us
Bush or Sadam? S/he needs to go back to school for remedial behavioral
training or has one mean streak.
And if you proclaim to be some religious missonary, you suck at it!
-DF
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote.
> > habshi wrote:
> >> Also we must stop believing in God as religious people dont do
> >> anything to solve the energy crisis or an asteroid hitting us , and
> >> waste their precious time on earth praying.
> >
> > This cure for obesity came from GOD and not from either atheistic or
> > religious folks.
>
> If so
Simply is so:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
neighbor Doug whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
... and continue to be blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
(note: Only those who are blessed by GOD will have access to these and
other related OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database. All
others will have to make charitable $30.00 donations to
TheWellnessFoundation.com first to gain access.)
habshi
Bible that his message is ONLY for the Jews and teaching others
(including Chinese) would be like 'throwing pearls before swine'.
Why would you want to follow a man who calls you swine? Have you no
self respect?
On 3 Jan 2007 13:07:49 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Why do you obsessionaly love him so much
My choice made through the free will HE has generously given me:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/freewill.asp
> , when he says in the
> Bible that his message is ONLY for the Jews and teaching others
> (including Chinese) would be like 'throwing pearls before swine'.
"Demons reside in the swine that will tear you apart. Do not cast your
pearls before such swine." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to ME. Therefore
go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the
Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to
the very end of the age." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 28:18-20)
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
This victory belongs to GOD whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to surrender to
HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
neighbor "Habshi" whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
... and continue to be blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
(note: Only those who are blessed by LORD GOD Almighty, Creator of
heaven and earth, will have access to these and other related
OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database maintained by
TheWellnessFoundation.com)
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1167872357.3...@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
> Neighbor "Habshi" wrote:
>>
>> Why do you obsessionaly love him so much
>
> My choice made through the free will HE has generously given me:
He's refering to the sacramental sausage communion offering he joyously
receives from Reverend Tedi Haggard.
habshi
Jewish tribes and not to enter gentile homes . When the Samaritan
woman came to him to be healed he said 'I am not going to throw pearls
before swines'. Its Paul who made Xtianity universal by overthrowing
Jesus's commands eg to follow the last rule eating pork , circumcison
while Jesus had said he had come to uphold all the laws !!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Jesus told his apostles to go only to the homes of the 12 lost
> Jewish tribes and not to enter gentile homes.
Untrue.
Your embarrassing yourself is an adverse reaction to the awesome power
of intercessory prayers by the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ made to
our heavenly Father lifting up those like you who have been convicted
by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you choose wisely at this crossroads in your life:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
"You do not have much longer to live." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
neighbor HD Lee whom I love unconditionally.
Kurt Gavin
This web site is designed to spread the vicious truth about the Bible. For
far too long priests and preachers have completely ignored the vicious
criminal acts that the Bible promotes. The so called "God" of the Bible
makes Osama Bin Laden look like a Boy Scout. This God, according to the
Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage,
plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of
unborn children. I have included references to the Biblical passages, so
grab your Bible and follow along.
Art Deco
>Convicted neighbor habshi wrote:
>> Jesus told his apostles to go only to the homes of the 12 lost
>> Jewish tribes and not to enter gentile homes.
>
>Untrue.
Must be according to the NCV.
>
>Your embarrassing yourself is an adverse reaction to the awesome power
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