Not good.
When we are not hungry, it does mean GOD has stopped blessing us.
> ... and weakness,
> the chief said Wednesday, noting that he expects to complete the
> investigation by Friday and forward the results to the district
> attorney.
>
> The girl's mother, Leilani Neumann, said that she and her family
> believe in the Bible and that healing comes from God, but that they do
> not belong to an organized religion or faith, are not fanatics and
> have nothing against doctors.
>
> She insisted her youngest child, a wiry girl known to wear her
> straight brown hair in a ponytail, was in good health until recently.
>
> "We just noticed a tiredness within the past two weeks," she said
> Wednesday. "And then just the day before and that day (she died), it
> suddenly just went to a more serious situation. We stayed fast in
> prayer then. We believed that she would recover. We saw signs that to
> us, it looked like she was recovering."
>
> Her daughter - who hadn't seen a doctor since she got some shots as a
> 3-year-old, according to Vergin - had no fever and there was warmth in
> her body, she said.
>
> The girl's father, Dale Neumann, a former police officer, said he
> started CPR "as soon as the breath of life left" his daughter's body.
>
> Family members elsewhere called authorities to seek help for the girl.
>
> "My sister-in-law, she's very religious, she believes in faith instead
> of doctors ...,"
Wiser to believe in GOD and seek HIS will.
There is hope, love, and faith.
The greatest of these is love.
Love never fails.
GOD is Love.
> the girl's aunt told a sheriff's dispatcher Sunday
> afternoon in a call from California. "And she called my mother-in-law
> today ... and she explained to us that she believes her daughter's in
> a coma now and she's relying on faith."
Wiser to rely on GOD.
> The dispatcher got more information from the caller and asked whether
> an ambulance should be sent.
>
> "Please," the woman replied. "I mean, she's refusing. She's going to
> fight it. ... We've been trying to get her to take her to the hospital
> for a week, a few days now."
>
> The aunt called back with more information on the family's location,
> emergency logs show. Family friends also made a 911 call from the
> home. Police and paramedics arrived within minutes and immediately
> called for an ambulance that took her to a hospital.
>
> But less than an hour after authorities reached the home, Madeline - a
> bright student who left public school for home schooling this semester
> - was declared dead.
>
> She is survived by her parents and three older siblings.
>
> "We are remaining strong for our children," Leilani Neumann said.
> "Only our faith in God is giving us strength at this time."
GOD is the Source of our strength.
Delusions about hunger, however, weaken us.
> The Neumanns said they moved from California to a modern, middle-class
> home in woodsy Weston, just outside Wassau in central Wisconsin, about
> two years ago to open a coffee shop and be closer to other relatives.
> A basketball hoop is set up in the driveway.
>
> Leilani Neumann said she and her husband are not worried about the
> investigation because "our lives are in God's hands. We know we did
> not do anything criminal. We know we did the best for our daughter we
> knew how to do."
If only they had known that anorexia is bad and indicated that their
daughter was no longer being blessed by GOD in her condition.
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
That's exactly what they did Dr. Chung.
And your cruel comments are very telling about where exactly your
"faith" is placed.
Not very discerning of you is it?
> > Wiser to believe in GOD and seek HIS will.
Mike
> That's exactly what they did Dr. Chung.
>
> And your cruel comments are very telling about where exactly your
> "faith" is placed.
>
> Not very discerning of you is it?
Using Chung's way of "thinking," why should anyone follow any doctor's
advice regarding treatment, why wear seat belts, why do anythings
whereas all you have to do is "believe" and "seek HIS will."
For those who believe, just what is "HIS will" since there seems to be
great variation.
Looking at how Chung does that, someone could come to any conclusion
if they can ignore simple things like an omer being a volume and not a
weight and extrapolating that a certain amount of manna is the same as
a similar amount of any food. It does seem strange that in Exodus God
did not specify a weight and why not supply a balanced diet than
manna.
Chung does seem to believe in his own version of Christian Scientist
like mentality about medical treatment - does seem strange that he is
still giving medical advice - except that is just one more example of
Chung's inconsistencies.
Not according to what is written above that "she believes in faith
instead of doctors."
GOD is love and neither hope nor faith.
It is love and neither hope nor faith that never fails.
Bottom line:
You remain the liar who is the source of all lies as described in the
Bible:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
> GOD is love and neither hope nor faith.
So God is Eros.
The rest of Chung's post was snipped because in Chung's own words:
"I realize I can't begin to refute anything said here, so I'll simply
post meaningless links to nonsense I spewed earlier."
Why are you saying things
that you know are not true?
~monkfish
> Using Chung's way of "thinking," why should anyone follow any doctor's
> advice regarding treatment, why wear seat belts, why do anythings
> whereas all you have to do is "believe" and "seek HIS will."
>
> For those who believe, just what is "HIS will" since there seems to be
> great variation.
>
> Looking at how Chung does that, someone could come to any conclusion
> if they can ignore simple things like an omer being a volume and not a
> weight and extrapolating that a certain amount of manna is the same as
> a similar amount of any food. It does seem strange that in Exodus God
> did not specify a weight and why not supply a balanced diet than
> manna.
>
> Chung does seem to believe in his own version of Christian Scientist
> like mentality about medical treatment - does seem strange that he is
> still giving medical advice - except that is just one more example of
> Chung's inconsistencies.
Cannot help but wonder, looking at Chung's response here and other
places, how you are never accused of "Bottom line: You remain the liar
who ....." and do not seem to be convicted or prayed for with your own
"http...Heart...prayfor thesoulofJ...." Is then what you say true and
beyond refute, even the jibberish Chung admits to using.
> So God is Eros.
>
> The rest of Chung's post was snipped because in Chung's own words:
>
> "I realize I can't begin to refute anything said here, so I'll simply
> post meaningless links to nonsense I spewed earlier."
"Religions die when they are proved to be true. Science is the record
of dead religions." Oscar Wilde
And the opposite would be true. In fact, it isn't even
about "science", but "scientists". Yet folks tend to
think that what a scientist says, is automatically equal
to science. They make scientists their gods, but only
atheistic scientists. All others are ridiculed, because
they don't ridicule religion, yet those who do, have
their own religion, which people deny is religion,
yet the beliefs, which is all they are, have zero support
scientifically, but are claimed to and for those wanting
to ridicule all religions except the atheistic views,
support is that which the person who holds the
atheistic view says it is, which equals them saying it
and nothing more and this is considered "science".
True science has never disproved one thing in the Bible.
But hey, if you can ridicule it, then you're in, in the
supposedly "scientific" community!
--
--
Pastor Dave
fall in Egypt, and
they shall take away her multitude, and her foundations
shall be broken down." - Ezekiel 30:3-4 (prophecy about
Egypt, fulfilled in 480 B.C.)
%
"The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz
did see. Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand;
it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's
heart shall melt:" - Isaiah 13:1,6-9 (prophecy regarding
Babylon, fulfilled in 539 B.C.)
%
God doesn't call the qu
> True science has never disproved one thing in the Bible.
> But hey, if you can ridicule it, then you're in, in the
> supposedly "scientific" community!
Much harder to disprove that something did not happen like God raining
down manna for Moses et al and that it did not rain for 40 days and 40
nights and that Noah did not built an ark which held two of every
species of animal and many other things in the Bible. Just because
there may be things in the Bible which may be scientifically known to
be true, does not mean that everything is scientifically true.
Chung has used the same argument about someone disproving his 2PD
works rather than him proving it.
Both you and Chung have it backwards.
The burden is on the one making the claim that something did happen,
not on the one disagreeing with the claim.
It is written that lying is satan's native language:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan
who remains
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
"I realize I can't begin to refute anything said here, so I'll simply
post meaningless links to nonsense I spewed earlier." Chung
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.jesus.christ/browse_thread/thread/768856a9f7a454a8#
or most of what you say below?
Either way you remain a liar and you should be convicted just as the
"Holy Spirit convicts" others
On Mar 28, 3:57 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> friend monkfish wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed dispairingly:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > GOD is love and neither hope nor faith.
>
> > > So God is Eros.
>
> > Why are you saying things that you know are not true?
>
> It is written that lying is satan's native language:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Liarsatan
>
> who remains
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
You know, I have always known that Chung was a retard, but this stuff is
just beyond the pale. Someone needs to put his stupid ass away with those
parents.
--
T2 - Oct. '96 - Lantus, oral meds, diet
http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel
Undo the munge to reply by email
> You know, I have always known that Chung was a retard, but this
stuff is
> just beyond the pale. Someone needs to put his stupid ass away with
those
> parents.
Quoting Chung, "Wiser to believe in GOD and seek HIS will."
Maybe there is a God because from what has been said, Chung's daughter
does not live with Chung which I guess is God's will and the wise
thing.
Are you shameless?
--
monkfish
You could be stalking him.
If he asks for your true identity,
you might be legally bound to divulge it.
--
monkfish
A sockpuppet flailing about with dead links would not be a stalker...
... but rather just a:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppet
> If he asks for your true identity,
> you might be legally bound to divulge it.
As if satan could possibly have a true identity...
... just think about it:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Justice
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Chung is so 'out of it' even HE can't see the parody of him
as for stalking him....... go to yellow pages, look up Andrew B Chung in
Mableton Georgia
look him up on the Georgia Board of Doctors (or whatever that list is)
Chung is widely known/available to track on the internet, or thru his
local police station
That's the problem.
We all know who he actually is.
Who are you?
--
monkfish
You are annoying people needlessly.
You really should look into
how to deal with the Devil
within and without you.
Consult with your pastor, please.
--
monkfish
"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness,
how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything,
except to be thrown out and trampled by men." -- LORD Jesus Christ
(Matthew 5:13)
Amen.
> You really should look into
> how to deal with the Devil
> within and without you.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
> Consult with your pastor, please.
Wiser to walk ever closer with the Pastor, Who is LORD Jesus Christ
(see above).
HE is the way and the truth and the life:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
HE has the answers to all the questions you have been asking.
HE is the Source of all knowledge, wisdom, and intelligence.
HE is the Author of all reality including the alternate ones.
May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
> --
> monkfish
It would be wiser for friend monkfish to simply pray for your
perishing soul as we, who are Jesus' disciples, are doing:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate
Given the posts Dr. Chung makes he does not recognize the need for
professional or social interaction with others.
Dr. Chung is a very dangerous poster to medical groups because he
pretends to have "proof" of his medical claims about diet, diabetes,
etc.
Dr. Chung's "proof" is usually a link to his own press releases and
writings.
There is no scientific basis for Dr. Chung's claims.
No medical professional has posted support of any of Dr. Chung's
theories.
Those of us who call on Dr. Chung to provide support for his views
are
always determinded by Dr. Chung to be working for Satan.
God can do anything so there is hope for Dr. Chung.
JS
Dumber still to deny when all around you point out the error of your
self taught theology
Proverbs 3
Further Benefits of Wisdom
1 My son, do not forget my teaching,
but keep my commands in your heart,
2 for they will prolong your life many years
and bring you prosperity.
3 Let love and faithfulness never leave you;
bind them around your neck,
write them on the tablet of your heart.
4 Then you will win favor and a good name
in the sight of God and man.
5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will make your paths straight.
7 Do not be wise in your own eyes;
fear the LORD and shun evil.
8 This will bring health to your body
and nourishment to your bones.
It is by taking in the wisdom of the Word, the wise people in our
lives and seeking to help rather than judge or condemn others that we
serve the Lord.
Your "hunger is wonderful" posts and lists of people who have
disagreed with you are continual examples of the danger of not having
strong professional, personal and spritual relationships with other
humans.
When God has every person posting --- theist, deist and athiest alike
-- pointing out the many ways your writings depart from scripture it
is time to examine whether you may have misinterpreted scripture.
To err is human -- to decide you are the only one "discerning" God's
message correctly is folly
Monkfish, you are probably now a convicted sock puppet with no free
will rather than "friendmonkfish". Welcome to the club :)
JS
Do you have a human, flesh and blood, pastor, preacher, teacher or
reverend you consult as you "discern" the scripture?
If not you should find someone to study with.
Your lack of Biblical instruction and knowledge is evident.
JS
Yes.
> If not you should find someone to study with.
>
> Your lack of Biblical instruction and knowledge is evident.
Not to the discerning.
May we, who are discerning, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-given
opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Marana tha
I gather Dr. Chung has been
set in his ways for some time.
But I'm new here,
so I will give him the benefit of doubt.
As you said, nothing's impossible with God.
--
monkfish
of
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Dumbsatan
who remains
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
But there are some challenges for which even God must eat HIS Wheaties
before facing :)
JS
Reminds me of the smile painted on the face of a depressed clown:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet
of
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan
who remains
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
> I gather Dr. Chung has been
> set in his ways for some time.
I have been set in HIS way for some time:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Love
"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
Amen.
> But I'm new here,
> so I will give him the benefit of doubt.
There is no benefit in doubt.
Just as there is no benefit in written discourse with satan.
Wiser to simply rebuke him at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD
desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
> As you said, nothing's impossible with God.
Actually, nothing has been said here.
<><
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Marana tha
You see some reason he couldn't do both?
-- cary
No.
Just as you could blaspheme against the Holy Spirit but you know that
it would be unwise for you to do this:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForCary
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you, Kate, and
others convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Sorry, Andy, I'm still not going to make your day.
-- cary
Seeing you each day unwittingly serving as a beacon warning others
away from unwisely blaspheming against the Holy Spirit remains our
reward for praying for your perishing soul along with the perishing
souls of others convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> Seeing you each day unwittingly serving as a beacon warning others
> away from unwisely blaspheming against the Holy Spirit remains our
> reward for praying for your perishing soul along with the perishing
> souls of others convicted by the Holy Spirit:
Quick - note the day and time, something new from the Oracle of Mableton.
Then in response
On Mar 29, 7:24 pm, "Andrew
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Justice
Oh well, for a least one shining moment there was something new from
the Oracle of Mableton (OOM)
Chung it is obvious to even a semi-literate person that she put her
faith in God. It failed.
You are disembling yet again.
Not from what is written above.
> It failed.
Those who have placed their faith in LORD Jesus Christ continue to
enjoy eternal life:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Those like you, who have unwisely chosen to blaspheme against the Holy
Spirit, remain eternally condemned:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
So Jesus is not God?
You are obviously playing with words. You know very well that your
god failed that poor woman. Be honest for a change.
Never mind, you are completely incapable of intellectual honesty.
> You are obviously playing with words. You know very well that your
> god failed that poor woman. Be honest for a change.
The answer that is usually given is that it was not the will of God and done
for a greater reason which we cannot comprehend except to take it on faith it
was what God wanted.
If everyone prayed for her and she got better, it is proof of the power of
prayer and if she did not get better, then it was the will of God.
Heads God wins, tails you lose.
is still
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
forevermore
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Alpha_Omega
<><
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
>>
>> "Religions die when they are proved to be true. Science is the record
>> of dead religions." Oscar Wilde
>>
> Wilde was another one who can't tell the difference between science and
> religion. Science deals with matter, created things, religion deals with the
> qualities of those things, especially persons. There is no connection.
As science teaches us new things and explains what and why things happen, we
have to rely less "devine intervention" and the "will of God."
If you could scientifically prove your beliefs, then they would no longer be
beliefs and therefore require no faith and therefore would need no religion.
You seem to worship science.
Is that faith scientific?
--
monkfish
> You seem to worship science.
> Is that faith scientific?
No, I accept how science can explain and predict how things will happen.
> True science has never disproved one thing in the Bible.
> But hey, if you can ridicule it, then you're in, in the
> supposedly "scientific" community!
Laughable.
Bible supernaturalists who get innoculations are hypocrites.
You want the benefits of science while wallowing in your ignorant
superstition.
Why is there no information pertaining to the universe, the origins of
the earth or the existence of microbes in the Bible? It was written by
an all-knowing supernatural being, instead of man, then that being
should've found difficult not to include knowledge about such things
and insights and many other matters not available to mankind a few
thousand years ago, or now.
If some all-powerful supernatural being does exist, who from time to
time intervenes in human affairs, isn't it odd that he/she or it has
never in the history of mankind found a human who was worth giving
eternal life? We all live from zero to say 130 years of age. Why
hasn't God found somebody who was worth keeping around for say 500
years? Wouldn't it be interesting to have some worthy person from
Roman times among us?
And if you want to claim jesus was kept alive, then produce him. Let's
see him.
How is your life meaningful?
--
monkfish
> And if you want to claim jesus was kept alThere was Jesusive, then
produce him. Let's
> see him.
>
>
There was Jesus.
Some simple carpenter, who glimpsed the Tapestry.
> How is your life meaningful?
I think you will find it here:
Goddamnit, who borrowed the shovel and forgot to
put it back?
Of course he did.
He condemned divorce, which all modern societies allow.
His real "wisdom" is revealed in:
" For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are
eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who
have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He
who is able to receive this, let him receive it." -- Matthew 19:21
It's a tool, not a silly stone age idol like your god.
How are you holding up ?
Do u have the correct tool?
> Of course he did.
>
> He condemned divorce, which all modern societies allow.
>
> His real "wisdom" is revealed in:
>
> " For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are
> eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who
> have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He
> who is able to receive this, let him receive it." -- Matthew 19:21
Is there anything in the Bible about Jesus only feeding people 2 pounds of
food?
>> You seem to worship science.
>> Is that faith scientific?
>
> It's a tool
Well said.
Science And Religion
Join to celebrate
The Carpenter.
When "that" carpenter died on The Cross
Every Urge to vomit
Must be surrounded
With The Faithful
It's your life.
Feel free to ignore me.
--
monkfish
God is the ultimate point of reference.
Even science needs a frame of reference
to be meaningful.
If you don't want it to be God,
show me what you got.
--
monkfish
Do you even have any idea
how many calories are
in two pounds of bread and fish?
--
monkfish
re: God is the ultimate point of reference.
Science and Non Believers
May Look at Sunset
A Bosch SDI rotary hammer and some 3/4" lags?
1/4" Tapcons are rated 1,000 lbs shear with 1"
penetration into block or concrete. To Hell with
the cross, let's just Tapcon the fucker to the
wall over the pool table, 2 less 4x4's to haul.
> It's your life.
> Feel free to ignore me.
All you need to do is give examples or a miracle or where prayer worked.
Otherwise what you say is just more bullshit. As they say, "it's time to
crap or get off the pot and remain full of it."
> re: God is the ultimate point of reference.
1000s gods. Pick one or make up your own. The god(s) of the gaps
however gets smaller every year as science advances by killing
him/her/it/them slice by slice of knowledge.
> Science and Non Believers
>
>
> May Look at Sunset
Now that's a rewarding experience. Few god believes are going around
telling people what a sinner they are because they like sunsets. Having
a passionate embrace with a lover or lovers out in nature as the sun
sets or even rises, that's divine.
The gods fuck you however in different ways, tsunamis, tornadoes,
earthquakes, diseases, etc.
--
Pramesh Rutaji
p297ton...@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply
First, you have to tell me
what a miracle is, dear.
What happened to your frame of reference?
Is it a secret?
Like your blind faith?
--
monkfish
>On Apr 2, 3:28 pm, Nicodemus <Ancient-of-D...@Heaven.net> wrote:
>> J A <jantero...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:514ba6f8-e126-4b3b-8660-
>> c0761106e...@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
Will you guys stop crossposting please?
--
Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada.
DX 24 Aug 07. D&E
Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin
Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08)
> First, you have to tell me
> what a miracle is, dear.
>
A miracle is something that beyond the realms of probability. For example:
The sun rising in the West and setting in the East; Missing limbs growing
back; Lions laying down with lambs; "Monkfish" having a worthwhile thought.
--
David Silverman D.B.E.
BAAWA
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
Lawful copyright holder of the term "Earthquack".
Holder of rights to the stage musical "The Shining".
Not authentic without this signature.
> A miracle is something that beyond the realms of probability. For example:
> The sun rising in the West and setting in the East; Missing limbs growing
> back; Lions laying down with lambs; "Monkfish" having a worthwhile thought.
Yes - I am surprised no one can give one tiny example of one.
Remember a monkfish is a bottom dweller with a big mouth.
Prayer does not seem to work - I've been prauying certain posters would go
away, and so far Chung has not, so one of my prayers has not worked. Still
waiting to see if the others will.
Monkfish, I apologize for Mr. Silverman. He seems to have an anal
attitude towards those that don't see things his way. It seems David
doesn't like a challenge from believers and he isn't used to them
thinking for themselves at all, and of course David may be no more
than an egotistical, spoiled teenager trying to provoke a response
from you.
I'd like to attempt to answer your question if you'll allow it ? No
disrespect meant, but to me...a miracle is a happening that defies
logical circumstances, or perhaps more accurately a happening that
occurs contrary to the laws of physics and nature.
Rod
> but to me...a miracle is a happening that defies
> logical circumstances, or perhaps more accurately a happening that
> occurs contrary to the laws of physics and nature.
>
>
> Rod
Can you give any examples.
What happens if later as we learn more, what seemed illogical becomes
logical?
It seems from the last part of your above sentence, that the laws of physics
and nature are fixed and known.
... satan.
Apologising for satan is neither necessary nor desired by GOD.
Wiser to simply not side with satan and rebuke him at each GOD-given
opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
May you and other dear friends, brethren, and neighbors have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
You say science has never disproved one thing in the bible. So I have to ask
if you can prove anything that is written in the bible. I mean the same type
of proof you would expect from science to disprove the bible. Not telling me
to just have faith and believe.
The bible was not written by god. It is allegedly the word of god but It was
written by men who claim to have heard god's messages. It is their
interpretation of his words. At best it is second hand information.
Actually, as we have seen, Rod is entirely capable of finishing
his own sentences. Rather eolquently at times, and almost always
heartfelt.
He really doesn't need your post-editing.
-- cary
Probability of what?
How probable is it for life
to emerge from lifeless things?
How probable is it for something
to emerge from nothing?
--
monkfish
Your definition is exactly identical to mine as it happens.
Can you show me an example of "Monkfish" having a worthwhile thought?
Only, I find him ignorant, arrogant, facetious and fatuous. You, OTOH, I
find bumptious, conceited and so far out of your depth you can't even see
the surface.
> Sanity's Little Helper wrote:
>> monkfish <monkfish@nowhere> wrote in
>> news:iqOdnR_MKcHD3Gna...@ptd.net to sci.med.cardiology
>> on 03 Apr 2008:
>>
>>> First, you have to tell me
>>> what a miracle is, dear.
>>>
>>
>> A miracle is something that beyond the realms of probability. For
>> example: The sun rising in the West and setting in the East; Missing
>> limbs growing back; Lions laying down with lambs; "Monkfish" having a
>> worthwhile thought.
>>
>
> Probability of what?
>
> How probable is it for life
> to emerge from lifeless things?
100%. It already has done, even according to your mythology.
>
> How probable is it for something
> to emerge from nothing?
>
QVF.
> 100%. It already has done, even according to your mythology.
Yes
Genesis 1:26-27 Then God said, łLet Us make man in Our image, according to
Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds
of the air, and over the cattle, over all[b] the earth and over every
creeping thing that creeps on the earth.˛ 27 So God created man in His own
image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
So since we are made in the image of God, does God have two eyes to see you
better and two ears to hear you better?
In Genesis, who are the "Us"and the "Our" when God spoke - man was not
created, so if God is singular, then He was talking to himself or are there
Co-Gods or VP Gods too.
>
> Probability of what?
>
> How probable is it for life
> to emerge from lifeless things?
>
> How probable is it for something
> to emerge from nothing?
>
>
Well I gave it a fair shake - prayed for three things to happen and now see
the third one did not happen, so it looks like prayer does not work.
> Can you show me an example of "Monkfish" having a worthwhile thought?
Ralph Waldo Emerson may explain it
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
That also applies to Chung and his posts too.
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan
Emerson was correct about Chung:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Frustratedsatan
Chungis such a dunce that what he posts prove all the negative things said
about him and he keeps doing it.
New part of Chung's signature:
Dunce of the of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
>> Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:5419093d-
re: Jack Hammer Haskell it sounds in my mind you have became a father who
has considering "true" parenthood.
Have You Seen The Light?
Yes, "this" world is shaking apart,
It has souls' like me
Who brings Good News
Is this the way you talk
to mentally ill people?
--
monkfish
What sort of life? It's probably emerged more
than once.
> How probable is it for something
> to emerge from nothing?
Whose claim is that?