Re: Son Of God
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Since we are saved by believing
> that Jesus is the Son of God,
> we need to believe that in FULL:
> The Son of God is God
> just as his Father is God;
> they are TWO Witnesses
> but ONE God.
> Because the Son is God,
> HE is eternal life;
> and because he gave his life
> on the cross for us,
> he is OUR eternal life.
> Those who believe
> Jesus is their eternal life
> HAVE eternal life
> because they have Jesus.
> Those who do not believe that
> are NOT believing he is the Son.
>
> --
> http://roines.home.mindspring.com
Indeed, LORD Jesus Christ is our bless assurance driving away all
anxiety and panic while we remain in this accursed world.
Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to our heavenly Father and
the Lamb, Who sits at HIS right hand.
Marana tha !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear brother
Frank whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
sceptborg
> Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to our heavenly Father and
> the Lamb, Who sits at HIS right hand.
Praise the lamb an pass the mint sauce.
Truth PLEASE!
OK let's get REAL here.
I ask some hard questions of evangelicals today, not from a prospective
of theological disagreement, but one that challenges Christians to live
up to their own standards and wake up!
Let's look at the political positioning of the church in the US and
the west. (I will refer here to the "collective mindset of Evangelical
Christians," knowing there ARE many exceptional believers aware of
these issues that I will list below and are addressing them in spite of
oppostion.)
The first issue is HIV/AIDS. For almost 25 years now, the chruch has
bought into the terrible lie the there is a virus called HIV causing
AIDS. In spite of repeated attempts to discuss real science, this myth
is perpetuated by well-meaning Christians who have no idea that the
enire HIV/AIDS paradigm is demonic. We have wasted 300 billion dollars,
poisoned about 400,000 people with AZT, and spread this lie all over
the face of the earth. Now the UN and the New World Order is taking US
tax dollars to Africa to poison millions of new believers there. DNA
destroying AIDS drugs for pregnant women is essentially abortion by
prescription. Where is the discernment among us?
If you want to see 10 scientific reasons why HIV can NOT be the cause
of AIDS, what the real causes are, why toxic drugs cause AIDS
themselves and who is really behind this mass genocidal progam, visit
this site and watch the free video:
http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com
This demonic and deadly fraud can only operate in the world today
because of Christian leaders who are asleep at the wheel. You can also
see the video on Google at this site:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6830231400057553023
Our leaders have failed us.
The second big lie is 911. We have been told that this was a "terrorist
attack" carried out by Islamic fundamentalists, but take a good look at
World Trade Center 7, the building that was NOT hit by any jet, and
fell later in the afternoon. This was obvioulsy a controlled
demolition, as were towers 1 and 2. We have been lied to! The man
evangelicals put into office, yep that's right, George W. Bush was
behind this. It was his enclave of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
backers that designed this entire LIE to compel us into war and
building their New World Order agenda. It's just a "Patriot Act."
Are we safer now? Is it any easier to reach the Moslem world with the
love of Jesus? Are we losing control of our nation and our rights?
Jesus said "beware of WOLVES in sheep's clothing, you shall know them
by their fruits." Ask yourself, has George W. Bush's fruit been good or
evil?
If you want to learn the truth about 911 go to these sites:
www.911truth.org or viist www.infowars.com
Take a good look at WTC 7! We have been deceived. Our leaders have
failed us. I don't see any of them showing clips of WTC 7 on TV and
crying "Jimmy Swaggart tears" of repentance! These leaders are sleeping
dogs that will not bark. Wothless shepherds that have compromised with
satanic organizations like the CFR and Rockefeller's world plan. How
many times have our own prophets warned us about allowing these
elitists to run our government? Our leadership has drastically failed
us! No wonder the world will not hear our message about Christ. Wake UP
people! It's later than we think!
TruthPLEASE!
Startlemyerfieldson
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1164708991....@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Frank wrote:
>> Since we are saved by believing
>> that Jesus is the Son of God,
>> we need to believe that in FULL:
>> The Son of God is God
>> just as his Father is God;
>> they are TWO Witnesses
>> but ONE God.
>> Because the Son is God,
>> HE is eternal life;
>> and because he gave his life
>> on the cross for us,
>> he is OUR eternal life.
>> Those who believe
>> Jesus is their eternal life
>> HAVE eternal life
>> because they have Jesus.
>> Those who do not believe that
>> are NOT believing he is the Son.
>>
>> --
OK, question.
You know that the idea of the Christian god being 3 separate and yet
the same entity arose from a decision made by man during the reign of
Constantine, right?
Back then, there were so many different "truths" about xianity, that
Constantine called all these guys together and told them to come up with
something they can all agree on. They decided to drop a few of the books
& gospels, and to resolve the issue of god/son/spirit, they took the
easy way out and just said, "He's all three!".
These guys were just humans, you know. And before their decision,
many xians were worshipping their own special "truth".
The bible, as we know it today, is the result of even another big
editing by King James, (He wanted a new bible because he wanted to marry
again. He said, "Give me a god that will let me divorce and separate
from the catholic church!".) The bible you so strongly allow to consume
you is a book made by a ruler in the 1600's who wanted a way out.
How can you possibly say that this is the true word of god after it
so obviously is the word of man?
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
In the Holy Spirit, I know GOD to be Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
> Back then, there were so many different "truths" about xianity, that
> Constantine called all these guys together and told them to come up with
> something they can all agree on. They decided to drop a few of the books
> & gospels, and to resolve the issue of god/son/spirit, they took the
> easy way out and just said, "He's all three!".
In truth, there is GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and GOD the Holy
Spirit.
One GOD with the Son at the right hand of the Father and the Holy
Spirit here on earth.
> These guys were just humans, you know.
THEY are GOD.
> And before their decision,
> many xians were worshipping their own special "truth".
In the Holy Spirit, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ have always known
the truth, Whom they love with all their hearts, souls, minds, and
strengths.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! Laus Deo !!!!!!!!!!!!! Marana tha
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> The bible, as we know it today, is the result of even another big
> editing by King James, (He wanted a new bible because he wanted to marry
> again. He said, "Give me a god that will let me divorce and separate
> from the catholic church!".) The bible you so strongly allow to consume
> you is a book made by a ruler in the 1600's who wanted a way out.
Actually, it remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write. Whom I walk with is the
living Word of GOD and not the ink on paper.
> How can you possibly say that this is the true word of god after it
> so obviously is the word of man?
It remains my choice to continue to walk with the risen Christ Jesus,
Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in excruciating
pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear neighbor
Startlemyerfieldson
N0 no no no... you mis-understand...
The *idea* you have of this is what was taught to you via a
tradition that began with a human solution to a human problem - the fact
that no one had a straight story about this god.
This "trinity" exists only to resolve the issue of xianity having no
real, "chain-of-custody" type history that could be claimed anything
close to authentic. These three ideas were originally seperate ways of
being a xian, also subdivided into even more ways. Constantine said
"enough" and had a comittee, *a comitteee*, decide what truth is.
*That's what I am asking you. Do you even realize that this is the
basis for your particular flavor of xianity?
>> Back then, there were so many different "truths" about xianity,
>> that
>> Constantine called all these guys together and told them to come up
>> with
>> something they can all agree on. They decided to drop a few of the
>> books
>> & gospels, and to resolve the issue of god/son/spirit, they took the
>> easy way out and just said, "He's all three!".
>
> In truth, there is GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and GOD the Holy
> Spirit.
>
This is not an answer - you are merely parroting what you've heard
and said before. You are not allowing yourself to look from the outside
in. A bad way to think as a surgeon, I would think...
> One GOD with the Son at the right hand of the Father and the Holy
> Spirit here on earth.
>
>> These guys were just humans, you know.
>
> THEY are GOD.
>
So, these guys that made up the trinity are gods?
I thought Jesus was - no not jesus..., god is god - no, no wait!!!
The holy spirit is god!! No, wait wait - don't tell me...All *three are
god! Yeah, that's it. All three...
>> And before their decision,
>> many xians were worshipping their own special "truth".
>
> In the Holy Spirit, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ have always
> known
> the truth, Whom they love with all their hearts, souls, minds, and
> strengths.
>
> "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
>
> Amen ! Laus Deo !!!!!!!!!!!!! Marana tha
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
This "writing in tongues" fascinates me. What makes the non-English
part more holy than just saying what you mean in English? Is it some
kind of lingual exclamation point? Does your god require you to say
certain things in a foreign tongue? What?
>> The bible, as we know it today, is the result of even another big
>> editing by King James, (He wanted a new bible because he wanted to
>> marry
>> again. He said, "Give me a god that will let me divorce and separate
>> from the catholic church!".) The bible you so strongly allow to
>> consume
>> you is a book made by a ruler in the 1600's who wanted a way out.
>
> Actually, it remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy
> Spirit in everything I say, do, and write. Whom I walk with is the
> living Word of GOD and not the ink on paper.
>
You see, *that's what I am saying! It is *your choice to believe
this stuff, not gods. *You choose to make this path the *real one. It is
*you doing this, not god. Do you get it?
>> How can you possibly say that this is the true word of god after
>> it
>> so obviously is the word of man?
>
> It remains my choice to continue to walk with the risen Christ Jesus,
> Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind and strength:
>
Yes, it will always be *your choice.
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
>
> Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
>
> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely
> choose
> to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in
> excruciating
> pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear neighbor
> whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
>
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Actually, I understand your question to be untruthful and deceptive.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
What you received is a truthful answer to your untruthful question.
> The *idea* you have of this is what was taught to you via a
> tradition that began with a human solution to a human problem - the fact
> that no one had a straight story about this god.
What I know about GOD comes from the Holy Spirit and has not been
taught to me by any human.
> This "trinity" exists only to resolve the issue of xianity having no
> real, "chain-of-custody" type history that could be claimed anything
> close to authentic. These three ideas were originally seperate ways of
> being a xian, also subdivided into even more ways. Constantine said
> "enough" and had a comittee, *a comitteee*, decide what truth is.
> *That's what I am asking you. Do you even realize that this is the
> basis for your particular flavor of xianity?
No. In the Holy Spirit, I know that GOD has seven spirits and that fig
trees have souls with free will:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/scholarly.asp
The howling and cries of heresy from those convicted by the Holy Spirit
as being without HIS guidance such as CoonSkin, MWPhelps, et al that
will soon ensue should prove to all that what I know comes from the
Holy Spirit and not from men.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose unwisely
to curse HIM) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally).
Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> Actually, I understand
BTFR!
Art Deco
>> The *idea* you have of this is what was taught to you via a
>> tradition that began with a human solution to a human problem - the fact
>> that no one had a straight story about this god.
>
>What I know about GOD comes from the Holy Spirit and has not been
>taught to me by any human.
Like spamming support groups, Chunk?
Like your two-pound lard diet?
Like the souls of the fig trees?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
Art Deco
>> <predicted howlings and cries of heresy from MWPhelps>
You wear the shoes of a heretic so well, Chunk.
Pastor Kutchie
mwph...@gmail.com wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> The blasphemer, Andrew Chung, has been caught by his own deception! He
> did not "predict" anything; he attempted to "poison the well". Now he
> wishes readers to believe that he "predicted" something, when in
> reality he simply employed a pagan tactic in a futile effort to trap
> one of the Lord's brethren. In the Spirit, I knew to avoid
> highlighting Andrew's tactic earlier. This allowed the Lord Jesus
> Christ to be glorified by contrasting His truthfulness against Andrew's
> untruthfulness.
>
> Let no one steal your hope.
>
> Jesus is Lord!
Please do not crosspost to alt.support.anxiety-panic or
sci.med.cardiology. No matter what Earthquack ' - for want of a better
word - 'thinks', these newsgroups do not have anything to do with
religion.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/LegalAgreement.aspx
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/07bc99eb33ac3ec3?
cap...@shipper.com
and the Holy Trinity as 3 spirits in a system of 7 and all objects in
creation having souls and free will, I must confirm with him that the
below is without support also.
"You know that the idea of the Christian god being 3 separate and yet
the same entity arose from a decision made by man during the reign of
Constantine, right?"
It has become a kind of urban myth among some circles and the author
brown took it up in the 'devinci code'. I really don't want to take up
the matter here in detail but only to note this is a fairly recent view
among a small minority.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Irrefutable proof that MWPhelps is a false teacher:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> Jesus is Lord!
Actually, HE is more than that...
... much more ! ! !
Jesus is KING of kings and LORD of lords ! ! ! ! ! ! !
"These are the words of HIM Who holds the seven spirits of GOD and the
seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive,
but you are dead." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:1)
"From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of
thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the
seven spirits of GOD." (Revelation 4:5)
"Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the
center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the
elders. HE had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits
of GOD sent out into all the earth." (Revelation 5:6)
What will happen to those who deny the existence of the seven spirits
of GOD as false teacher MWPhelps has done repeatedly ? ? ?
"And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, GOD will
take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city,
which are described in this book." (Revelation 22:19)
Amen.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear neighbor MWPhelps whom I love
unconditionally.
cap...@shipper.com
"These are the words of HIM Who holds the seven spirits of GOD and the
seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive,
but you are dead." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:1)
"From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of
thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the
seven spirits of GOD." (Revelation 4:5)
"Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the
center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the
elders. HE had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits
of GOD sent out into all the earth." (Revelation 5:6)
So God is seven horns and seven eyes? Some time ago I looked up the
scripture where you got the seven spirits notion into which you spun
into a heresy in contridiction of the three persons of the Holy Spirit.
In addition to the 3 uses of "seven" above, which do not come first in
the text, there are 43 others. Obviously this heavly symbolic writing
is the least of the NT that can be taken as literal. Whatever meaning
"seven" had to St. John and those to whom he wrote, it is not obvious to
readers 1900 years hence.
Sadly so is the common reason for heresy when no external spiritual
reference is used except for the all too vulnerable mind of the
inventer.
A convicted heart is a proud heart sufficient unto itself.
If we confess our sins He is quick to forgive them.
God's most abundant blessing and mercy and protection and peace and
healing upon you.
Amen
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>> Jesus is Lord!
>
> Actually, HE is more than that...
>
> ... much more ! ! !
>
> Jesus is KING of kings and LORD of lords ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Woopy doo...... and yet, you can't even produce him to prove his existenc
and vast powers....
You're just a pathetic nut.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit boldly wrote:
>
>> "These are the words of HIM Who holds the seven spirits of GOD and the
>> seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive,
>> but you are dead." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:1)
>
>> "From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of
>> thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the
>> seven spirits of GOD." (Revelation 4:5)
>
>> "Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the
>> center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the
>> elders. HE had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits
>> of GOD sent out into all the earth." (Revelation 5:6)
>
> So God is seven horns and seven eyes?
No.
GOD has seven spirits.
> Some time ago I looked up the
> scripture where you got the seven spirits notion into which you spun
> into a heresy in contridiction of the three persons of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is not three persons.
> In addition to the 3 uses of "seven" above, which do not come first in
> the text, there are 43 others.
The focus remains on GOD and not the number seven.
> Obviously this heavly symbolic writing
> is the least of the NT that can be taken as literal.
In the Holy Spirit, that is not what I discern.
> Whatever meaning
> "seven" had to St. John and those to whom he wrote, it is not obvious to
> readers 1900 years hence.
Seven obviously does not mean three then and now.
> Sadly so is the common reason for heresy when no external spiritual
> reference is used except for the all too vulnerable mind of the
> inventer.
In the Holy Spirit, there is guidance and not invention.
> A convicted heart is a proud heart sufficient unto itself.
You remain convicted by the Holy Spirit as a false teacher.
> If we confess our sins He is quick to forgive them.
Blaspheming the Holy Spirit as you have done is unforgiveable:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> Here, Andrew asserts that I am "CoonSkin".
In the Holy Spirit, I know that the source of your words are the same.
You remain irrefutably condemned:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> <inability to refute what follows read, noted, and snipped>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
cap...@shipper.com
"These are the words of HIM Who holds the seven spirits of GOD and the
seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive,
but you are dead." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:1)
"From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of
thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the
seven spirits of GOD." (Revelation 4:5)
"Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the
center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the
elders. HE had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits
of GOD sent out into all the earth." (Revelation 5:6)
So God is seven horns and seven eyes? Some time ago I looked up the
scripture where you got the seven spirits notion into which you spun
into a heresy in contridiction of the three persons of the Holy Spirit.
In addition to the 3 uses of "seven" above, which do not come first in
the text, there are 43 others. Obviously this heavly symbolic writing
is the least of the NT that can be taken as literal. Whatever meaning
"seven" had to St. John and those to whom he wrote, it is not obvious to
readers 1900 years hence.
Sadly so is the common reason for heresy when no external spiritual
reference is used except for the all too vulnerable mind of the
inventer.
A convicted heart is a proud heart sufficient unto itself.
If we confess our sins He is quick to forgive them.
God's most abundant blessing and mercy and protection and peace and
healing upon you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> > > <Phelp's inability to refute what follows read, noted, and snipped>
>
> <Phelp's continued annihilation by the truth read, noted, and snipped>
You are most assuredly, without doubt, a tragic soul:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
Provoker
Hello Dr. Chung:
Regarding the subject of the Godhead, maybe it would help to understand
the term "son of God".
When God told king David that his son Solomon would build a temple for
God, He also told David that He would make Solomon His son, and He
would be Solomon's father, and if Solomon did evil, God would punish
Solomon with the armies of men.
Solomon was the only person in the bible, who was literally the sone of
David, and the son of God, and he was also "annointed/Christ".
The covenant nation/kingdom of Israel fell into non-existence at the
end of Solomon's reign, making Solomon the last king to sit on David's
throne. It is a logical impossibility for two warring enemy kingdoms
to be "a divided kingdom".
When the Jews received the prophecy that a child would be born who
would receive the kingdom of his father David, they recognized two
obvious things; The Davidic kingdom would be resurrected from the
dead, and one who was not yet born, would become Solomon's immediate
successor on David's throne.
The Jews began to watch and wait for the messiah, and they prepared by
building a body of followers for the Christ, when he comes. True Jews
were watching and waiting for Solomon's successor, and they naturally
imputed to him, according to the customs of royal succession, king
Solomon's titles, "Son of David, son of God, and Christ".
True Jews prematurely gave the messianic titles to Jesus, assuming that
Jesus would resurrect the kingdom.
The reason that the nation/kingdom of covenant Israel has to be
resurrected, is because God's everlasting plan to bless all the
nations, is forever tied to covenant Israel ruling all the land between
the Euphrates and the Nile, so covenant Israel must be resurrected from
the dead to fulfill God's everlasting plan, also, God has made several
promises which require the establishment of the Davidic kingdom
forever. The interesting thing is that God cannot help in the
resurrection of covenant Israel, because according to the terms of the
everlasting old covenant, God has His face turned away until covenant
Israel repents...but it has to exist in order to repent.
The messiah/christ, who will receive Solomon's titles; "son of David,
son of God", cannot be God, or even sent by God, because the salvation
he will provide to covenant Israel, is in the heroic and partriotic act
of returning Israel to covenant status(favour with God) again, so that
God's plan to bless all the nations can continue.
Conclusion: The "son of God" is not part of the Godhead, and Jesus
name was only invoked by the apostles, because he was their teacher.
The went out in the name of their teacher, they baptised in the name of
their teacher, they made disciples in the name of their teacher. This
was still a common practice a thousand years later, when students of
the great masters signed their paintings with their master's signature,
as did the violin making apprentices of Stradovarius.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Hello Dr. Chung:
> Regarding the subject of the Godhead, maybe it would help to understand
> the term "son of God".
> When God told king David that his son Solomon would build a temple for
> God, He also told David that He would make Solomon His son, and He
> would be Solomon's father, and if Solomon did evil, God would punish
> Solomon with the armies of men.
> Solomon was the only person in the bible, who was literally the sone of
> David, and the son of God, and he was also "annointed/Christ".
There is only one begotten Son of GOD and this is not Solomon but LORD
Jesus Christ, Who is KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Indeed, Jesus had to explain this to the Pharisees as the Holy Spirit
moves me to explain this to you by using Matthew 22:41-46.
**** Begin Scripture reading ****
While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, "What do
you think about the Christ? Whose Son is HE?"
"The son of David." they replied.
HE said to them, "How is it that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls
HIM 'LORD'? for he says, 'The LORD said to my LORD: "Sit at MY right
hand until I put your enemies under your feet."' If then David calls
HIM 'LORD,' how can HE be his son?"
No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to
ask HIM any more questions.
**** End Scripture reading ****
Amen !! Laus Deo !!! Marana tha !!!!
Most assuredly, without doubt, I know Christ Jesus to be KING of kings
and LORD of lords.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear neighbor whom I love
cap...@shipper.com
On that topic, please do as previously requested list the scriptures
related to pharisee behaviors against which Christ spoke regarding
prayer and other public demonstrations of self righteousness.
Provoker
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Dr. Chung:
Jesus was simply admitting to the backslidden lost sheep of the house
of Israel, that he was not the coming messiah. Jesus came to seek and
to save that which was lost, which he did by preaching the good news
that the kingdom was going to be resurrected, thus healing the Jew's
backsliding, and bringing them back into the "good news of the kingdom"
fold, from which they had backslidden.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Jesus was simply admitting to the backslidden lost sheep of the house
> of Israel, that he was not the coming messiah.
Actually, LORD Jesus Christ asked them a question that could only be
answered correctly by those in the Holy Spirit.
HE asked Simon Peter a question that was along the same vein:
"Who do you say I am ?"
And, Simon Peter answered:
"You are the Messiah, the Son of the living GOD." (Matthew 16:16)
Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not
revealed to you by man, but by MY Father in heaven. And I tell you that
you are Peter, and on this rock I will build MY church, and the gates
of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom
of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and
whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Then HE warned
HIS disciples not to tell anyone that HE was the Christ. (Matthew
16:17-20)
**** End of Scripture reading ****
Budikka666
said.
He was in favor of kidnapping:
"If someone kidnaps you, support their illegal activity" (Mat 5:41)
He didn't support the environment and thought it better to destroy than
to create (Mat 21:19)
He encouraged violent confrontation (Mat 10:34)
He believed in breaking up families (Mat 10:36)
It's fine to be petty (Mat 10:33)
It's okay to abuse animals (Mat 5:23)
It's okay to lie (Mat 5:25)
Men must not be attracted to women (Mat 5:28)
Self-mutilation is not only acceptable but recommended (Mat 5:29)
Don't forgive your wife (Mat 5:32)
Ostracise widows (Mat 5:32)
Never swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth (Mat 5:34)
Don't communicate meaningfully with people (Mat 5:37)
Don't resist evil (Mat 5:39)
Invite physical abuse (Mat 5:39)
Hide your religion away (Mat 6:4)
It's okay to periodically starve yourself and tell no one (Mat 6:17)
Be true to your religion and betray your government (Mat 6:24)
Don't take care of yourself (Mat 6:25)
Don't think (Mat 6:27)
Don't plan ahead (Mat 6:31)
Budikka
Provoker
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> revealed to you by man, but by MY Father in heaven. And I tell you that
> you are Peter, and on this rock I will build MY church, and the gates
> of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom
> of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and
> whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Then HE warned
> HIS disciples not to tell anyone that HE was the Christ. (Matthew
> 16:17-20)
Hello Dr. Chung:
Don't you find it a bit strange that Jesus warned his disciples not to
tell anyone that he was the christ, especially considering your belief
that Jesus was the christ, and your belief that Jesus wanted people to
accept him as the christ?
The good news that the Davidic kingdom would be resurrected,
represented a national security threat to Rome because the Roman empire
would have to be overthrown for it to be accomplished, so It was
politically expedient for Rome to convince the Jews that Jesus was the
christ, and that the prophecied Jewish kingdom was spiritual.
The Romans were stuck with pre-first century scripture because it was
widely known before the Romans became involved with the Jews, but Rome
was in full control of first century scripture very early on.
Politicly biased interpretation and paraphrasing of first century
scripture, from the virtually ruleless first century Koine Greek, to
the Byzantine language which became the new Koine Greek in the 5th
century, makes first century scripture very unreliable, so it must be
interpreted in the context of the story which runs with continuity from
Genesis to Revelation.
If you follow the continuously unfolding story of scripture, you will
find that the christ will be the one who ascends the resurrected throne
of David, and that the christ cannot be God, or even sent by God,
because according to the terms of the everlasting covenant between God
and the national assembly of Israel, God cannot be involved in the
national advancement of covenant Israel until covenant Israel exists
and repents.
We can't ignore the context of the whole bible story, and simply make
doctrines out of the convenient wording of selected single verses.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Actually, LORD Jesus Christ asked them a question that could only be
> > answered correctly by those in the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > HE asked Simon Peter a question that was along the same vein:
> >
> > "Who do you say I am ?"
> >
> > And, Simon Peter answered:
> >
> > "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living GOD." (Matthew 16:16)
> >
> > revealed to you by man, but by MY Father in heaven. And I tell you that
> > you are Peter, and on this rock I will build MY church, and the gates
> > of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom
> > of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and
> > whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Then HE warned
> > HIS disciples not to tell anyone that HE was the Christ. (Matthew
> > 16:17-20)
>
> Hello Dr. Chung:
> Don't you find it a bit strange that Jesus warned his disciples not to
> tell anyone that he was the christ, especially considering your belief
> that Jesus was the christ, and your belief that Jesus wanted people to
> accept him as the christ?
In the Holy Spirit, I know Jesus to be the Messiah, Who is the only
begotten Son of the living GOD, just as Simon Peter knew. Christ Jesus
chose to be obedient to the perfect will of our heavenly Father. This
is the reason for warning HIS disciples to abide by the timing of our
heavenly Father and not tell anyone that HE is the Messiah.
GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform with the light of the
truth, Who is Christ Jesus, and not to either argue, convince, or
convert.
Followers of satan (Buddika666, MWPhelps, CoonSkin, CapMack et al) know
this and so they despair as their being untruthful here causes them
great pain as they are stripped of all power and authority:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b5f7e5a8fcd38aa6?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others just a little bit more, dear neighbor whom I love
panam...@hotmail.com
shit eating Andrew B. Chung, deadbeat dad and diet guru to the stars
tried to write:
snip
Shaddap, Earthquack. You make Min sound sane.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a008a9cc011f8fec?dmode=source&hl=en
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"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Shaddap, Earthquack.
Name-calling simply shows that you remained convicted by the Holy
Spirit:
Mark T
>> Shaddap, Earthquack.
>
> Name-calling simply shows
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Provoker
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> begotten Son of the living GOD, just as Simon Peter knew. Christ Jesus
> chose to be obedient to the perfect will of our heavenly Father. This
> is the reason for warning HIS disciples to abide by the timing of our
> heavenly Father and not tell anyone that HE is the Messiah.
>
> GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform with the light of the
> truth, Who is Christ Jesus, and not to either argue, convince, or
> convert.
Dr. Chung:
Surely you realize that every one of the 30,000+ doctrinally
disagreeing sects of Christianity, makes the same claim, that in the
Holy Spirit, they know that their doctrines are the only correct ones.
Every disagreeing Christian who posts here thinks that God's purpose
for him is to inform with the light of the truth, and that is why you
cannot be civil with each other...LOL
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > In the Holy Spirit, I know Jesus to be the Messiah, Who is the only
> > begotten Son of the living GOD, just as Simon Peter knew. Christ Jesus
> > chose to be obedient to the perfect will of our heavenly Father. This
> > is the reason for warning HIS disciples to abide by the timing of our
> > heavenly Father and not tell anyone that HE is the Messiah.
> >
> > GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform with the light of the
> > truth, Who is Christ Jesus, and not to either argue, convince, or
> > convert.
>
> Dr. Chung:
> Surely you realize that every one of the 30,000+ doctrinally
> disagreeing sects of Christianity, makes the same claim, that in the
> Holy Spirit, they know that their doctrines are the only correct ones.
The Holy Spirit does not guide a sect but a person.
This is why it is written that the way to GOD is straight and narrow.
There is room enough for only one person at a time.
> Every disagreeing Christian who posts here thinks that God's purpose
> for him is to inform with the light of the truth, and that is why you
> cannot be civil with each other
Actually, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ love each other
unconditionally which is a level infinitely higher than just being
civil with each other.
Many thanks, much praise and all the glory to GOD for compelling you to
reveal simultaneously that you are an anti-christian bent on dividing
the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ and to demonstrate that the unity in
the Holy Spirit is infinitely stronger than the prince of this world
who guides you.
> ...LOL
"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose wisely to
surrender to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <
<snip rubbish>
If jesus were actually able to do miracle cures and heal the sick, nobody
would have executed him.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> If jesus were actually able to do miracle cures and heal the sick, nobody
> would have executed him.
In the Holy Spirit, I know they believed by killing HIM, they would
possess HIS powers.
Such is delusion suffered by those who follow satan, who suffers the
same delusion.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM just as atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud did when he
died in excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety and teeth gnashing
panic, dear neighbor Kurt whom I love unconditionally.
Free Lunch
>Convicted Kurt Gavin wrote:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>> If jesus were actually able to do miracle cures and heal the sick, nobody
>> would have executed him.
>
>In the Holy Spirit, I know they believed by killing HIM, they would
>possess HIS powers.
You really make up entertaining stories. Sure, they are completely
without merit, but that doesn't mean that I don't get entertainment out
of them.
>Such is delusion suffered by those who follow satan, who suffers the
>same delusion.
Please identify those who are followers of satan. Make certain that they
agree with you before you make your claim. I cannot imagine that
Christian would ever defame anyone, so if you choose to defame, and for
you, calling someone a follower of Satan is defamation if they have not
identified themselves as such, I will not be able to figure out how you
qualify as a Christian.
>May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
>to curse HIM just as atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud did when he
>died in excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety and teeth gnashing
>panic, dear neighbor Kurt whom I love unconditionally.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
>Andrew <><
Enjoy your delusions, at least the entertain me at times.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> >> If jesus were actually able to do miracle cures and heal the sick, nobody
> >> would have executed him.
> >
> >In the Holy Spirit, I know they believed by killing HIM, they would
> >possess HIS powers.
> >
> >same delusion.
>
> You really make up entertaining stories.
Fiction is not my style.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM just as atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud did when he
died in excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety and teeth gnashing
panic, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
Maestro
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fiction is not my style.
> Andrew <><
Well, lets see here....I'm really wondering why you've decided to troll
in the anxiety-panic usenet...
Any well-learned person knows that MAN wrote the Bible, regardless of
"divine inspiration", which that makes it opinionated and not
completely pure - thus partly fiction. I'm not going to get into a
debate with you Mr. Chung, but really I scroll past all your rants
every time I see them. If you really truly are a Doctor, then you
should take your ministry to the street and the hospital and stop
trying to scream in deaf ears.
I fail to see the point. Screaming and antagonizing people will only
get you ignored.
-Maestro
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Screaming is not my style either. Yes, GOD has made me a bona fide
doctor.
Sorry my posts bother you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing us of
anxiety and panic so that we can love others a little bit more and HIM
a lot more, dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1165188757....@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Convicted Kurt Gavin wrote:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>> If jesus were actually able to do miracle cures and heal the sick, nobody
>> would have executed him.
>
> In the Holy Spirit, I know they believed by killing HIM, they would
> possess HIS powers.
So, you're saying the Jewish priests and the Roman occupation authorities,
executed jesus in order to acquire his miracle healing powers and to be able
to raise the dead?
And the wholy spirit told you this?
You're writing a new book to amend the New Testament, perhaps?
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing us of
> anxiety and panic
I think Andrew imagines the jesus / god is urinating on him and he is
deriving curative benefits and inspirational insights....
;-))
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> >> If jesus were actually able to do miracle cures and heal the sick, nobody
> >> would have executed him.
> >
> > In the Holy Spirit, I know they believed by killing HIM, they would
> > possess HIS powers.
>
> So, you're saying the Jewish priests and the Roman occupation authorities,
> executed jesus in order to acquire his miracle healing powers and to be able
> to raise the dead?
Yes.
> And the wholy spirit told you this?
In the Holy Spirit, I know this.
> You're writing a new book to amend the New Testament, perhaps?
No.
Clearly, you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/86bc5bf1688ee02d?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Followers of satan (Buddika666, MWPhelps, CoonSkin, CapMack et al) know
>
As if a follower of satan could be blasphemed:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
Kurt Gavin
> Convicted Kurt Gavin wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Convicted Kurt Gavin wrote:
>> >
>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> >
>> >> If jesus were actually able to do miracle cures and heal the sick,
>> >> nobody
>> >> would have executed him.
>> >
>> > In the Holy Spirit, I know they believed by killing HIM, they would
>> > possess HIS powers.
>>
>> So, you're saying the Jewish priests and the Roman occupation
>> authorities,
>> executed jesus in order to acquire his miracle healing powers and to be
>> able
>> to raise the dead?
>
> Yes.
Then the bible is wrong, since it doesn't mention this reason for jebus'
execution that you are now touting.
>> And the wholy spirit told you this?
>
> In the Holy Spirit, I know this.
LOL. You're hearing voices, aren't you....
>> You're writing a new book to amend the New Testament, perhaps?
>
> No.
But you should.
Don't waste your time on the internet - write a new biblical book and start
giving street corner sermons at the top of your lungs about this vast god
given insight of yours.
>
> Clearly, you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
LOL
>
> http://groups. SNIP
/msg/86bc5bf1688ee02d?
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > Followers of satan (Buddika666, MWPhelps, CoonSkin, CapMack et al) know
> > >
> > > Andrew's blasphemy of me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
> >
> > As if a follower of satan could be blasphemed:
>
> Andrew's blasphemy of me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
Clearly, you remain eternally condemned:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Your blasphemy of the Holy Spirit can not be forgiven as far as anyone
is concerned.
Dichard Rawkins
> Your blasphemy of the Holy Spirit can not be forgiven as far as anyone
> is concerned.
Even if there was a Holy Spirit, who the hell would you be, to arrogate to yourself to say who can be forgiven for what? You're just an insignificant
primate like the rest of us.
--
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Followers of satan (Buddika666, MWPhelps, CoonSkin, CapMack et al) know
> >>>>>> Andrew's blasphemy of me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
> >>>>> As if a follower of satan could be blasphemed:
> >>>> Andrew's blasphemy of me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
> >>> Clearly, you remain eternally condemned:
> >>>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
> >>
> >> Andrew's blasphemy of me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
> >
> > Your blasphemy of the Holy Spirit can not be forgiven as far as anyone
> > is concerned.
>
> life.
Yes, praise belong to GOD for sending down the fires from heaven to
destroy demons like you.
> Tragically, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
Your becoming a demon has been tragic.
> Note also how Andrew's blasphemy has led him into heresy, for Scripture
> does not say that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit "can not" be forgiven.
In the Holy Spirit, I know that the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ can
forgive all sins except the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit.
> Scripture says that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit "will not" be forgiven.
This is the perfect and infinite will of LORD GOD Almighty.
> There is a tremendous difference. The former denies God's power.
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are not gods.
> The latter declares God's power.
Such is the infinite and perfect will of our heavenly Father.
> Praise God for compelling Andrew Chung to reveal the depth of his
> disdain for God, our Lord, thus confirming once and for all that he is
> vanquished, condemned, and eternally lost.
You are projecting, demon.
Clearly, you are eternally condemned as a demon servant of satan:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
May GOD send down fires from heaven and annihilate you, demon Phelps,
in the precious and holy name of HIS one and only begotten Son, LORD
Jesus Christ, Who chose to suffer terribly and die horribly on the
cross in order to save HIS brethren from their deadly sin. Many
thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS rising up on that
fantastic third day.
Amen ! ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! !
percy
Nah, his living water is the the algae filled slime from the unused
fish ponds at Paradise Concepts...
Tell me andykins, why is it the address you give on the Healthgrades
website
http://www.healthgrades.com/directory/cardiologist/Georgia/Atlanta_GA_Cardiologists.cfm
doesn't exist?
Why are you the only doctor there that requires fee payment in order to
get your profile?
Why are you the only one that does not permit online appointment
bookings?
Too busy trolling Usenet support groups, andy? Too busy campaigning for
Ko0k of teh Year?
It's time to unstick yourself from that chair, andy. I'm sure Darfur
could use a washed-up cardiologist.
Vicki
panam...@hotmail.com
shit eating Andrew B. Chung, diet guru to the stars, scrawled in
crayon:
And platitudes simply show that you are a complete moron.
Pay that child support, deadbeat!
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Provoker
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Hello Dr:
If that is true, then such a person would not belong to a
sect/denomination/assembly, because he would have to be doctrinally
unencumbered, in order to be open to guidence by the Holy Spirit. If
the person who is guided by the Holy Spirit, preaches the things which
the Holy Spirit guides him in, he creates a sect which is guided by the
Holy Spirit.
The logical point is, that as long as there are religious leaders who
are guided by the Holy Spirit, there will always be sects guided by the
Holy Spirit. The fact that there are more than 30,000 doctrinally
disagreeing sects of Christianity, means that the chances of any one
person in all those 30,000+ sects, being guided by the Holy Spirit, is
less than one in 30,000.
If you are guided by the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit guides
individuals, not sects, then you are in the catch 22 situation where
you cannot guide others, because that would be usurping the Holy
Spirit's authority(blasphemy of the Holy Spirit).
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The Holy Spirit does not guide a sect but a person.
>
> Hello Dr:
> If that is true
It is true.
> , then such a person would not belong to a
> sect/denomination/assembly, because he would have to be doctrinally
> unencumbered, in order to be open to guidence by the Holy Spirit.
Such would be the limitations of man and not of man with GOD.
"For man this is impossible but with GOD all things are possible." --
LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)
Amen !
> If
> the person who is guided by the Holy Spirit, preaches the things which
> the Holy Spirit guides him in, he creates a sect which is guided by the
> Holy Spirit.
Those who are guided by the Holy Spirit do the will of GOD in all
things.
"A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and
put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand and it gives
light to everyone in the house." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew
5:14b-15)
Amen !
> The logical point is, that as long as there are religious leaders who
> are guided by the Holy Spirit, there will always be sects guided by the
> Holy Spirit.
Those who are guided by the Holy Spirit know that sects are not guided
by the Holy Spirit.
> The fact that there are more than 30,000 doctrinally
> disagreeing sects of Christianity, means that the chances of any one
> person in all those 30,000+ sects, being guided by the Holy Spirit, is
> less than one in 30,000.
Nothing happens by chance when all things that those of this world
consider to be random happens by GOD (Proverbs 16:33).
> If you are guided by the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit guides
> individuals, not sects, then you are in the catch 22 situation where
> you cannot guide others, because that would be usurping the Holy
> Spirit's authority(blasphemy of the Holy Spirit).
GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either guide,
preach, convince, argue, or convert.
The gate is narrow because there is room for only one at a time.
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the
road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small
is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find
it." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:13-14)
Amen !
Laus Deo ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more,
Provoker
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > possess HIS powers.
Hello Dr:
Let me explain why your claim of "in the Holy Spirit", is no better
than the claims of 30,000+ doctrinally disagreeing denominations:
In the gospel of John, chapter 11, John completely, and clearly,
explains why Jesus was killed, and I will synopsize the story to
provoke you into looking it up to see if I am right.
It was shortly after the raising of Lazarus from the dead, and Jews
were flocking to join up with Jesus. The chief priests and pharisees
got a little worried about how this turn of events might affect them,
so they got together to decide what they could do about it. Someone
stated the problem, that if all the Jews joined up with Jesus, Jesus
might be inclined to do some "unmentioned thing", which would so enrage
Rome, that the Roman army would come and kill all the Jews. This would
destroy the authority and status of the chief priests and pharisees,
because if all the Jews were killed, they would be out of their jobs.
The high priest pointed out that all they had to do was to kill Jesus
before he had a chance to enrage the Romans, and only one man would
have to die to save all the Jews. The chief priests and pharisees
plotted from that day on, to kill Jesus, and Jesus went into hiding.
Sometime later, when Jesus returned to Jerusalem, the chief priests and
pharisees were waiting for him, and with the help of the temple guard,
they captured Jesus, took him to the high priest, who sent Jesus to the
Romans for execution.
Jesus clearly died at the hands of the Romans, to save all the Jews
from death at the hands of the Romans, thus ensuring the authority and
status of the chief priests and pharisees.
Regarding the unmentioned thing that Jesus would do with a large
following, which would make the Romans come and kill all the Jews, one
only has to realize that the good news that Jesus was preaching, was
that the Davidic kingdom was going to be resurrected. It is pretty
obvious that the chief priests and pharisees were afraid that Jesus and
his followers would make an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow Rome.
How blind does one have to be to have missed this very clear
explanation in John 11, of why Jesus was killed?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > In the Holy Spirit, I know they believed by killing HIM, they would
> > > > possess HIS powers.
>
> Hello Dr:
> Let me explain why your claim of "in the Holy Spirit", is no better
> than the claims of 30,000+ doctrinally disagreeing denominations:
> In the gospel of John, chapter 11, John completely, and clearly,
> explains why Jesus was killed, and I will synopsize the story to
> provoke you into looking it up to see if I am right.
> It was shortly after the raising of Lazarus from the dead, and Jews
> were flocking to join up with Jesus. The chief priests and pharisees
> got a little worried about how this turn of events might affect them,
> so they got together to decide what they could do about it. Someone
> stated the problem, that if all the Jews joined up with Jesus, Jesus
> might be inclined to do some "unmentioned thing", which would so enrage
> Rome, that the Roman army would come and kill all the Jews. This would
> destroy the authority and status of the chief priests and pharisees,
> because if all the Jews were killed, they would be out of their jobs.
The latter was imminent simply by what Jesus teaches. Look at them
now. They are without either authority or status because HE is risen.
HE is immortal. HE is GOD !
Yes, the Sanhedrin, Pharisees, and Sadducees believed that by killing
Messiah Jesus they would inherit HIS kingdom and HIS powers.
And so what has been fulfilled is as was prophetically written:
"The stone they rejected is now the capstone."
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water healing us of
depression, anxiety, and panic so that we can love others a little bit
more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor whom I love