Re: The Downward Spiral
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> The Downward Spiral
>
> Could such an ordered, systematic creation be the result of mere
> chance? No more than shaking a paper bag filled with watch parts
> might produce an accurate timepiece. But evolutionary atheism is
> nothing more than "futile speculation," explanations devised by
> people who want to suppress the truth about God from their own
> consciences. Thus, their foolish hearts are darkened (v. 21).
> The human race is devolving, not evolving. Instead of ascending into
> freedom and enlightenment, mankind, having rejected the true God, is
> receding into the bondage and gloom of its own sin and unbelief.
> When men and women refuse God, they become enslaved to sin,
> enveloped in darkness, entrapped by futility. Forsaking God, they
> forsake truth, light, and eternal life. They spurn the basis of all
> morality and start on the downward spiral Paul describes in these
> verses.
> Spiritual darkness inevitably accompanies moral corruption. People
> who reject God necessarily forfeit righteousness. Godlessness
> inescapably leads to moral perversion-and vice versa. Unbelief and
> immorality are thus inextricably woven together.
> The death of common sense. "Professing to be wise, they became
> fools" (Rom. 1:22). Those who refuse to honor God lack spiritual
> understanding. Even their rational faculties are corrupted by their
> unbelief. Their thinking is especially twisted with regard to spiritual
> matters, because their sin is spiritual rebellion. They have no means of
> discerning between truth and falsehood, right and wrong. Having
> rejected God, they have no hope of reasoning their way to spiritual
> truth. They are fools in the most profound sense of the word: "The
> fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they
> have committed abominable deeds; there is no one who does good"
> (Ps. 14:1; cf. 53:1).
> The foolishness that verse describes is a comprehensive spiritual
> blindness. It is the worst foolishness of all. It corrupts the conscience
> and leaves the unbeliever incapable of right thinking about any
> spiritual matters.
> Our society is shot through with spiritual foolishness. It seems moral
> judgment has been completely overturned. Public schools cannot
> teach the Bible or even morality but are encouraged to instruct
> children in sexual technique, then supply them with free condoms.
> School nurses are not supposed to dispense aspirin without parental
> consent, but they may send young girls to abortion clinics without
> informing anyone in authority. Baby whales and baby seals have
> more legal rights than unborn infants. Courts are more concerned to
> protect criminals' rights than victims' rights.
> Common sense rarely figures into public policy or society's sense of
> morality. Professing wisdom, our culture has enshrined its foolishness
> proudly for all to see.
>
> MacArthur, J., F., Jr. (1994). The vanishing conscience (Electronic
> ed.). Logos Library Systems (62). Dallas: Word Pub.
>
>
> There is no hurry?
>
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>
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Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
and there like its master, satan:
(1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
brethren:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
(2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
without access to anything meaningful:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more dear
brother Melchizedek whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
... and continue to be blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
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Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister
Cyberstalking pervert, charlatan and huckster Earthquack wrote:
> Melchizedek wrote:
> > The Downward Spiral
> >
> Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
> and there like its master, satan:
>
> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
>
Reality fix implemented. Qtest passed. Probability factor of 1:1. We
have normality.
mambo33
part of your delusional thinking. I think you'll be better off leaving
us in peace unless you stop your tirades and share with us about what
is causing you pain. We did not ask you to come and save us, we all
suffer from a psychiatrics disorders and certainly do not need your
words of venom. If you are a true Christian. then practice love and
service to others. Your messages are all full of darkness and nothing
from a space of love.
I think that you need to go back to your shrink or start taking your
meds. I am serious Andrew, you are not well and need some help. Now
tell me truthfully, are you taking your meds? Have you stopped your
treatment? Your thinking is not clear, you seemed tormented and it
doesn't have to be that way. I sure hope that I am getting through to
you and leave your sermons aside. Talk to us about how you feel, talk
to us, don't hide behind religion to hide from yourself. I am talking
to you from a a space of love, reaching out to you. I hope you can
respond from that space too. Reach out into your core and find a space
of light in your soul and write from there.
Mambo33
Mark K. Bilbo
> Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
> part of your delusional thinking.
Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential of this kind
of world:.... a world in which oil reserves are controlled
by radicals in order to extract blackmail from the West..."
- George Bush
Wait... oil reserves?
Pastor Kutchie
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:58:00 -0800, mambo33 wrote:
>
> > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
> > part of your delusional thinking.
>
> Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
>
He won't for very much longer.
Kurt Gavin
check it out: http://www.evilbible.com/
This web site is designed to spread the vicious truth about the Bible. For
far too long priests and preachers have completely ignored the vicious
criminal acts that the Bible promotes. The so called "God" of the Bible
makes Osama Bin Laden look like a Boy Scout. This God, according to the
Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage,
plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of
unborn children. I have included references to the Biblical passages, so
grab your Bible and follow along.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> mambo33 wrote:
>
> > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
> > part of your delusional thinking.
>
> Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
Not by fortune but by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.
Laus Deo !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Mark whom I love unconditionally.
Hugh Jarse
> Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> > mambo33 wrote:
> >
> > > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
> > > part of your delusional thinking.
> >
> > Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
>
> Not by fortune but by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.
>
Well, you know what you Christers say: "The lord giveth....".
What comes next after this?
and he can see
no reasons
'cause there are
no reasons
what reason do you need to be shown
tell me why..
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> > > mambo33 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
> > > > part of your delusional thinking.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
> >
> > Not by fortune but by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.
>
> Well, you know what you Christers say: "The lord giveth....".
>
> What comes next after this?
For HIS brethren, eternal life is forever.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
neighbor Hugh whom I love unconditionally.
Davej
>
> Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
> and there like its master, satan:
"This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
Terms Of Use."
I guess that may signify a downward spiral for huckster Chung.
The Rev Dr Hugh Jarse NLAHN
and he can see
Mark K. Bilbo
> Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> mambo33 wrote:
>>
>> > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
>> > part of your delusional thinking.
>>
>> Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
>
> Not by fortune but by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.
Uh huh. Let's see what happens when it comes up for renewal shall we?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"There is something feeble and a little contemptible about
a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of
comfortable myths." - Bertrand Russell
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
> > and there like its master, satan:
(1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
brethren:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
(2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
without access to anything meaningful:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
> "This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
> Terms Of Use."
Simply another nail in Google's coffin.
A jury of my American peers, who believe in free speech, are simply
going to "love the truth."
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
This victory belongs to GOD whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you choose to surrender to
HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
"Satyr" whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
... and continue to be blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
(note: Only those who are blessed by LORD GOD Almighty, Creator of
heaven and earth, will have access to these and other related
OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database maintained by
TheWellnessFoundation.com)
Cary Kittrell
> Neighbor Davej wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
> > > and there like its master, satan:
>
> (1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
> brethren:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
>
>
> (2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
> without access to anything meaningful:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
>
> > "This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
> > Terms Of Use."
>
> Simply another nail in Google's coffin.
>
> A jury of my American peers, who believe in free speech, are simply
> going to "love the truth."
So you think "free speech" mandates that anyone who has any
channel of communication is obliged to let you use that channel?
If so, then you believe "free speech" also means that Pat Robertson
has to let American Athiests use the facilities of the Christian
Broadcasting Network to propound atheism. And that "Christianity
Today" must allow Muslims space to editorialize. And that
your local church is required to give me space to wax
rapturous on the infinite mercies of Bast.
"Free speech" does not oblige anyone to help you speak. It simply
means that the government may not prevent you from doing so.
And Google is not the government.
-- cary
Kurt Gavin
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Neighbor Davej wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
> > > > and there like its master, satan:
> >
> > (1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
> > brethren:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
> >
> >
> > (2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
> > without access to anything meaningful:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
> >
> > > "This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
> > > Terms Of Use."
> >
> > Simply another nail in Google's coffin.
> >
> > A jury of my American peers, who believe in free speech, are simply
> > going to "love the truth."
>
> So you think "free speech" mandates that anyone who has any
> channel of communication is obliged to let you use that channel?
No.
In the Holy Spirit, I know that free speech as protected by the First
Amendment to the United States Constitution is mandated by LORD GOD
Almighty.
"Freedom of speech is the concept of the inherent human right to voice
one's opinion publicly without fear of censorship or punishment. The
right is enshrined in the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human
Rights and is granted formal recognition by the laws of most nations."
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Cary whom I love unconditionally.
mambo33
Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:58:00 -0800, mambo33 wrote:
> >
> > > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
> > > part of your delusional thinking.
> >
> > Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
> > Well that is a very scary thought.
>
> He won't for very much longer.
Maybe he should go work for Pat Robertson.
percy
>
>>The Downward Spiral
a shitload of ko0kscreed snipped
St. Jackanapes wrote:
> Melchizedek spammed his way into our newsgroups with cut & pasted
> sermons & hundreds of links to his "writings" - and expected us to take
> him seriously. He demanded, not asked, that we read his Xian diatribes,
> unable to comprehend that we are in these newsgroups for the exchange of
> ideas in debate. He was clueless that we are not here to spend hours
> reading Christian propaganda. Frustrated, he began sending his bile to
> our personal mailboxes. I guess he thought that if we weren't going to
> read his crap in the newsgroups, perhaps we'd read it if it were emailed
> to us.
>
> Further frustration with us manifested in him trying to laughingly
> "flame" us. It was so pathetic that I was embarrassed for *him!
>
> Now, like most Christians that come in here smacking their thick skulls
> on our walls, his frustration has turned into bizarre antics. This past
> week Melty's begun impersonating several of us. This from a guy who
> wants us to take him seriously.
>
> It's interesting to notice that whenever anyone tried to seriously
> debate his postings, they were flat out ignored. The poster Brad
> repeatedly tried to debate Melty, but from what I saw, Melty never
> responded once to him. He just wants to spread propaganda, nothing else.
> Now that he's failed so miserably, he's losing touch with reality.
>
> I'm sure that the pressures of having his many books rejected by the
> publishers has left him feeling low. And the expense of having to pay
> for their publishing himself left him financially desperate. Lessor
> things have caused people to have nervous breakdowns. And from the
> signs, Melty's in for a big one.
>
> How else can you explain the post he made impersonating WhewNotSaved:
>
> -----------BEGIN PASTE------------
>
> From: PUnotSaved
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 02:41:16 -0500
>
> Subject: My Hump my hump my hump
>
> My Farts
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLmPg0kYWKo
>
> My Humps
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmPiU_LxCOA
>
> ---------END PASTE---------------
>
> I think it's time to call the guys in white with the big butterfly nets!
>
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Melchizedek wrote:
> >
> >>The Downward Spiral
>
> a shitload of ko0kscreed snipped
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
There is simply no other explanation for your wasting your limited time
typing about something you have snipped:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1fe80f4d182f3f60?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Vicki whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Meanwhile, HIS brethren have been blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought
... and continue to be blessed:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
(note: Only those who are blessed by LORD GOD Almighty, Creator of
heaven and earth, will have access to these and other related
OurLittle.net articles per a secure IP database maintained by
TheWellnessFoundation.com)
Art Deco
>Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
>and there like its master, satan:
>
>(1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
>brethren:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
>
>(2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
>without access to anything meaningful:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
Let me guess, you flunked out of law school prior to trying your hand
at medicine?
Art Deco
>On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:35:16 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> mambo33 wrote:
>>>
>>> > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
>>> > part of your delusional thinking.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
>>
>> Not by fortune but by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.
>
>Uh huh. Let's see what happens when it comes up for renewal shall we?
He can always fill the application with lies, just like he does to
usenet.
Art Deco
>Neighbor Davej wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> > Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
>> > and there like its master, satan:
>
>(1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
>brethren:
Still trying to use words without understanding their meanings, Chung,
like "refute" and "proof"? You could be St. Foamy's first-cousin.
percy
>
>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>>Melchizedek wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Downward Spiral
>>
>>a shitload of ko0kscreed snipped
>
>
even more vomit (a la Linda Blair) snipped
You're a coward, chung. A pathetic, deluded, fraudulent, hypocritical,
lying coward.
You're the demon, andy, and there's a reason your god isn't letting you
see that fact for yourself.
He wants you around to suffer the humiliation.
The truth is simple.
Vicki
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor "percy" wrote:
> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>Melchizedek wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>The Downward Spiral
> >>
> >>a shitload of ko0kscreed snipped
>
> even more vomit (a la Linda Blair) snipped
Easily brought back since it continues to appropriately describe your
behavior:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6d95ab5d61b99bc9?
> You're a coward, chung. A pathetic, deluded, fraudulent, hypocritical,
> lying coward.
Hint: Those who hide behind fakes names are more likely to fit the
descriptors you are using.
Bottomline: You are projecting.
Your embarrassing yourself is a common adverse reaction to the awesome
power of intercessory prayers by the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ made
to our heavenly Father lifting up those like you who have been
convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Simply witness and behold the following:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e7e0682e95fea378?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/555b2275e9491f14?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e813735f9a849e14?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f13f07009381bfe4?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fbf371392ff442fd?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
Pastor Kutchie
> False prophet Andrew B. Chung spammed:
>
> >Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
> >and there like its master, satan:
> >
> >(1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
> >brethren:
> >
There is no proof, Earthquack, only your inane rantings and clear,
continuous evidence that you are not walking with anyone but your own
cirrhotic ego. By default, and weighed against your claims, it is clear
that the God you believe in does not exist.
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
> >
> >(2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
> >without access to anything meaningful:
> >
Stop telling lies about me, Earthquack. You're already in a very great
deal of trouble. The links don't work because you were pulled by the
administrators of OurLittle.net for legal reasons.
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
>
I stand by what I posted.
> Let me guess, you flunked out of law school prior to trying your hand
> at medicine?
He flunked out of human school when he was an adolescent.
Mark K. Bilbo
Medical boards get touchy about that for some strange reason...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"When it comes to God's existence, I'm not an atheist
and I'm not an agnostic. I'm an acrostic.
The whole thing puzzles me." - George Carlin
Mark K. Bilbo
> Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Neighbor Davej wrote:
>> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
>> > > > and there like its master, satan:
>> >
>> > (1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
>> > brethren:
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
>> >
>> >
>> > (2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
>> > without access to anything meaningful:
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
>> >
>> > > "This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
>> > > Terms Of Use."
>> >
>> > Simply another nail in Google's coffin.
>> >
>> > A jury of my American peers, who believe in free speech, are simply
>> > going to "love the truth."
>>
>> So you think "free speech" mandates that anyone who has any
>> channel of communication is obliged to let you use that channel?
>
> No.
Then Google has a right to boot you for violating their terms of service.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Mark K. Bilbo
> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:13:00 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Has Frothed:
>
>> Convicted neighbor "percy" wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > Convicted neighbor "percy" wrote:
>>> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>Melchizedek wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>The Downward Spiral
>>> >>
>>> >>a shitload of ko0kscreed snipped
>>>
>>> even more vomit (a la Linda Blair) snipped
>>
>> Easily brought back since it continues to appropriately describe your
>> behavior:
>
> And what about your behavior? I spoke with my family MD whom I also
> socialize a bit with, about you Mr. Chung. He said that any MD that spent
> as much time pontificating on Usenet for whatever reason was certainly
> derelict in his duties as a medical practitioner. My family MD is a
> general practitioner. He sees patients from 8 to 12, 6 days a week. Then
> he makes rounds to hospitals and nursing homes until 7 or 8 in the evening.
> This is a man dedicated to his patients and to medicine. You on the other
> hand, spend a great amount of time here on Usenet preaching and
> pontificating. You are a disgrace to other dedicated doctors who you share
> the MD tag with.
>
Really. Have you ever heard of a cardiologist who has time to diddle
around on Usenet all day? Or at all? I mean, a *cardiologist? Did we run
out of people with heart trouble or something?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > Neighbor Davej wrote:
> >> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
> >> > > > and there like its master, satan:
> >> >
> >> > (1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
> >> > brethren:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > (2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
> >> > without access to anything meaningful:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
> >> >
> >> > > "This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
> >> > > Terms Of Use."
> >> >
> >> > Simply another nail in Google's coffin.
> >> >
> >> > A jury of my American peers, who believe in free speech, are simply
> >> > going to "love the truth."
> >>
> >> So you think "free speech" mandates that anyone who has any
> >> channel of communication is obliged to let you use that channel?
> >
> > No.
>
> Then Google has a right to boot you for violating their terms of service.
In truth, I have not violated their terms of service.
They have already admitted this to me in emails I have received from
them.
Their admitted reason is that they have received many complaints about
my being openly Christian.
In time, LORD willing, there will be a million Google stocks
accompanying the million dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/MillionDollars
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you wisely choose to
surrender to HIM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fcb058da12bb3f3d?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Mark whom I love unconditionally.
Kurt Gavin
Kurt Gavin
Mark K. Bilbo
They say you have.
> They have already admitted this to me in emails I have received from
> them.
No they did not.
> Their admitted reason is that they have received many complaints about
> my being openly Christian.
Liar. They told you you violated section 6 of their terms of service. And
the account you were using at the time is *still terminated isn't it?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
Bill M
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1167919020.9...@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
Your insanity does not justify its application in inappropriate newsgroups.
Cary Kittrell
> Convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Neighbor Davej wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Simply witness the downward spiral of a demon which is loitering here
> > > > > and there like its master, satan:
> > >
> > > (1) As it futilely attempts to refute GOD's proof manifest in HIS
> > > brethren:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ce4000cde7ffce28?
> > >
> > >
> > > (2) As GOD compels it to unwittingly show that it remains accursed
> > > without access to anything meaningful:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8ae8713626903af3?
> > >
> > > > "This account has been banned because it violated the Google Groups
> > > > Terms Of Use."
> > >
> > > Simply another nail in Google's coffin.
> > >
> > > A jury of my American peers, who believe in free speech, are simply
> > > going to "love the truth."
> >
> > So you think "free speech" mandates that anyone who has any
> > channel of communication is obliged to let you use that channel?
>
> No.
Well then, in that case you have no beef whatsoever with Google.
Case -- yours -- closed.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
Excellent! Now we're getting to the meat of the issue.
So, let's see those emails:
>
> Their admitted reason is that they have received many complaints about
> my being openly Christian.
Which you will no doubt prove beyond any doubt in the space above...
>
> In time, LORD willing, there will be a million Google stocks
> accompanying the million dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
You could try playing up to right-wing dictators; worked
pretty good for Mother Teresa.
-- cary
Mark K. Bilbo
Heh. You wanna?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"For men become civilized, not in proportion to their
willingness to believe, but in proportion to their
readiness to doubt." - H.L. Mencken
Cary Kittrell
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:53:29 -0700, Art Deco wrote:
>
> > Mark K. Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:35:16 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>> Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >>>> mambo33 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
> >>>> > part of your delusional thinking.
> >>>>
> >>>> Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
> >>>
> >>> Not by fortune but by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.
> >>
> >>Uh huh. Let's see what happens when it comes up for renewal shall we?
> >
> > He can always fill the application with lies, just like he does to
> > usenet.
>
> Medical boards get touchy about that for some strange reason...
Oh, I dunno... Following a link that Andy provided for us [1,2]
and looking him up [3], you'll notice a number of categories
including "Final Disciplinary Action", "Criminal Offenses",
"Medical Malpractice Judgment Arbitration Awards", "Medical
Malpractice Settlement Amounts"... and in each of these
cases, the information given is something like "This
physician has indicated that he/she has NO (actions/
felonies/malpractice)"... -- in other words, they
apparently TAKE THE SUBJECT'S WORD FOR IT.
Gee, I for one will sleep easier knowing that.
-- cary
[1] http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3cc56d2fdaf7b700?dmode=source
[2] http://heartmdphd.com/profile.asp
[3] https://www.gaphysicianprofile.org/profile.ShowProfileAction.action?lic_nbr=040347
Bill M
"Kurt Gavin" <dontb...@ignore.com> wrote in message
news:4t9nh.7189$yx6....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
So true, but the far majority of believing Christians base their 'faith' on
what their preacher tells them - not on any objective verifiable 'evidence'!
Cary Kittrell
Haven't another poster or two indicated that it was only
fairly recently that he appears to have taken a long
walk off a short grip on reality?
-- cary
Tdub
> my being openly Christian.
This statement shows that you are not thinking straight. Nobody has
complained about your openly being a Christian. They have complained
about you abusing the discussion forum by flooding it with off topic
postings and soliciting $. Check your snail mail for a letter from the
Georgia Medical Board in the few couple weeks.
Cary Kittrell
Wouldn't mind. I mean, I'm just SURE that Andrew is neither
misinterpreting nor misrepresenting what Google actually
said, see, but ....
-- cary
Kurt Gavin
"Tdub" <grips...@email.com> wrote in message
news:1167933041.5...@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
Excellent. You informed the Board about his antics?
Harry
% -*- Truth -*- %
<dontb...@ignore.com> claimed:
><snip Chung666 ravings>
>
>check it out: http://www.evilbible.com/
>
>This web site is designed to spread the vicious truth about the Bible.
It is designed for people like you, who hate God,
while claiming that He doesn't exist and yet, spend
all of your time rebelling against Him.
Goodbye, stupid.
--
Truth is what matters and it is
the Truth that will set you free!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Initially, yes.
> > They have already admitted this to me in emails I have received from
> > them.
>
> No they did not.
Actually, they have. Neither you nor they know about everything that I
have received from them. Google is a big company with many employees
most with free will.
Where there is free will there is free expression of thought unfettered
by corporate mind control.
Their downfall for willful censorship of the writings of an openly
Christian person will not be unlike the downfall of the tobacco
industry.
> > Their admitted reason is that they have received many complaints about
> > my being openly Christian.
>
> Liar.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
> They told you you violated section 6 of their terms of service.
That is what they initially wrote until I requested they cite specific
posts and how each specific post violated section 6 of their TOS. In
their failure to find any specific posts they were willing to cite,
they instead unwittingly provided evidence that the real reason is they
felt harrassed by the number of complaints they have received about my
posts whose common denominator is their author's choice to be openly
Christian in each post.
**** Start GoogleGroups TOS section 6 ****
6. Appropriate Conduct
You agree that you are responsible for your own conduct and
communications while using the Service and for any consequences
thereof. You agree to use the Service only to send and receive messages
and material that are legal, proper and related to the particular
Group. By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree that when
using the Service, you will not:
defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal
rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;
post any inappropriate, defamatory, infringing, obscene, or unlawful
Content;
post any Content that infringes any patent, trademark, copyright, trade
secret or other proprietary right of any party (the "Rights"), unless
you are the owner of the Rights or have the permission of the owner to
Post such Content;
post messages that promote pyramid schemes, chain letters or disruptive
commercial messages or advertisements, or anything else prohibited by
the Group owner.
download any file Posted by another user of a Group that you know, or
reasonably should know, that cannot be legally distributed in such
manner;
impersonate another person or entity, or falsify or delete any author
attributions, legal or other proper notices or proprietary designations
or labels of the origin or source of software or other material
contained in a file that is Posted;
restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;
use the Service for any illegal or unauthorized purpose;
remove any copyright, trademark or other proprietary rights notices
contained in or on the Service;
interfere with or disrupt the Service or servers or networks connected
to the Service, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or
regulations of networks connected to the Service;
use any robot, spider, site search/retrieval application, or other
device to retrieve or index any portion of the Service or collect
information about users for any unauthorized purpose;
submit Content that falsely expresses or implies that such Content is
sponsored or endorsed by Google;
create user accounts by automated means or under false or fraudulent
pretenses;
promote or provide instructional information about illegal activities
or promote physical harm or injury against any group or individual; or
transmit any viruses, worms, defects, Trojan horses, or any items of a
destructive nature.
International users agree to comply with their own local rules
regarding online conduct and acceptable content, including laws
regulating the export of data to the United States or your country of
residence.
While Google prohibits such conduct and Content in connection with the
Service, you understand and agree that you nonetheless may be exposed
to such conduct and/or Content and that you use the Service at your own
risk.
**** End Google Groups TOS ****
Source:
http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/terms_of_service.html
> And the account you were using at the time is *still terminated isn't it?
Those accounts would not serve as evidence against them if they had not
been terminated.
As the number of accounts grow so will the number of court exhibits
demonstrating that indeed the censorship has been willful.
A jury of my American peers who respect the Constitutionally protected
freedom of speech will simply "love the truth" especially when they
learn that their award punishing Goodle will go to further the
charitable work of civic organizations such as that represented here:
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water to cure our
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message >
> Where there is free will there is free expression of thought unfettered
> by corporate mind control.
What a joke.
A jesus nitwit whose mind has been taken over by myths and supernatural
spirits, these "corporately" determined by people from the time of the
Council of Nicaea in 318AD, talks about "free will".
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
<snip chungian ravings>
Kurt Gavin
"% -*- Truth -*- %" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:fh5rp2pdcg7vad9ql...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:56:48 GMT, "Kurt Gavin"
> <dontb...@ignore.com> claimed:
>
>
>><snip Chung666 ravings>
>>
>>check it out: http://www.evilbible.com/
>>
>>This web site is designed to spread the vicious truth about the Bible.
>
>
> It is designed for people like you, who hate God,
> while claiming that He doesn't exist and yet, spend
> all of your time rebelling against Him.
No moron, I enjoy pointing out how frail your fantasies about supernatural
being are; and I enjoy making fun of douchebags like you.
I'm not rebelling against a nonexistent god - I'm making fun of the people
who believe in it.
> Goodbye, stupid.
The "stupid" here, is the one who fears unseen, unknown supernatural beings,
known only in ridiculous myth stories.
Bye, moron.
Mark K. Bilbo
Yeah but you better not get caught lying...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Harry
Mark K. Bilbo
From the email *you posted the last thing they said was:
--------------------
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Thank you for your email and fax replies. As previously mentioned, please
> consult the Google Groups Terms of Service (please see
> http://www.google. com/googlegroups /terms_of_ service.html) regarding this
> matter.
>
> We're sorry we cannot be of further assistance.
>
> Regards,
> The Google Team
------------------
(Betcha didn't know I had that huh?)
All they did was refer you to the terms of service again. That's it. The
fact of the matter is *you violate the FAQs and charters of multiple
groups and refuse to acknowledge your wrong doing.
I can tell you what you violated:
"restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;"
and
"interfere with or disrupt the Service or servers or networks connected
to the Service, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or
regulations of networks connected to the Service;"
and then you moved on to:
"create user accounts by automated means or under false or fraudulent
pretenses;"
Google didn't argue with you because they don't want to waste their time
with loons like yourself. You broke the rules, you were booted, end of
story.
Just *try to find a lawyer who'll represent you.
>> And the account you were using at the time is *still terminated isn't it?
>
> Those accounts would not serve as evidence against them if they had not
> been terminated.
>
> As the number of accounts grow so will the number of court exhibits
> demonstrating that indeed the censorship has been willful.
Actually, Andy, creating multiple accounts on a service that has told you
to get lost is something for which *you can get in trouble.
> A jury of my American peers who respect the Constitutionally protected
> freedom of speech will simply "love the truth" especially when they
> learn that their award punishing Goodle will go to further the
> charitable work of civic organizations such as that represented here:
Yeah, right. As if any lawyer will take such a case. Go on, try to find
one. I dare you.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing,
it is still a foolish thing" - Anatole France
Kurt Gavin
"Harry" <Ha...@Home.com> wrote in message news:459d8...@x-privat.org...
You are nothing but a slave to superstition. If you fear supernatural
beings, you're a slave to ignorance.
Mark K. Bilbo
Yeah, go back through his posting history and he used to sound rather sane.
It is known that schizophrenia in males can show about the college years.
It was probably starting up around the time he was canned (or a while
before) but only became seriously pronounced in fairly recent times. Say
2003ish...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned
and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and
the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until
all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic
is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety than ever
before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions
may prove groundless." - Abraham Lincoln
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for confirming that
they were unable to justify their action.
> All they did was refer you to the terms of service again. That's it. The
> fact of the matter is *you violate the FAQs and charters of multiple
> groups and refuse to acknowledge your wrong doing.
FAQs and charters have no governing authority just as netiquette does
not either.
> I can tell you what you violated:
>
> "restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;"
That is not what they wrote.
> and
>
> "interfere with or disrupt the Service or servers or networks connected
> to the Service, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or
> regulations of networks connected to the Service;"
That is not what they wrote.
> and then you moved on to:
>
> "create user accounts by automated means or under false or fraudulent
> pretenses;"
That is not what they wrote.
> Google didn't argue with you because they don't want to waste their time
> with loons like yourself. You broke the rules, you were booted, end of
> story.
If the latter were true, they would have been able to cite specific
posts with the specific application of section 6.
Their inability to do this has condemned them.
> Just *try to find a lawyer who'll represent you.
Already have.
> >> And the account you were using at the time is *still terminated isn't it?
> >
> > Those accounts would not serve as evidence against them if they had not
> > been terminated.
> >
> > As the number of accounts grow so will the number of court exhibits
> > demonstrating that indeed the censorship has been willful.
>
> Actually, Andy, creating multiple accounts on a service that has told you
> to get lost is something for which *you can get in trouble.
They would have to first tell me with justification and authority to
stop using their free service and be able to show that I have received
their written request. This would open them up to even more liability.
> > A jury of my American peers who respect the Constitutionally protected
> > freedom of speech will simply "love the truth" especially when they
> > learn that their award punishing Goodle will go to further the
> > charitable work of civic organizations such as that represented here:
> Yeah, right. As if any lawyer will take such a case. Go on, try to find
> one. I dare you.
Finding interested attorneys has been easy.
The data gathering has been easy too.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety and panic so that we can love our
Mark K. Bilbo
Of course they did. You violated their terms of service.
>> All they did was refer you to the terms of service again. That's it. The
>> fact of the matter is *you violate the FAQs and charters of multiple
>> groups and refuse to acknowledge your wrong doing.
>
> FAQs and charters have no governing authority just as netiquette does
> not either.
Yes, they do. Notice you lost the account?
>> I can tell you what you violated:
>>
>> "restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;"
>
> That is not what they wrote.
It's in the terms of service to which they referred you.
>> and
>>
>> "interfere with or disrupt the Service or servers or networks connected
>> to the Service, or disobey any requirements, procedures, policies or
>> regulations of networks connected to the Service;"
>
> That is not what they wrote.
It's in the terms of service to which they referred you.
>> and then you moved on to:
>>
>> "create user accounts by automated means or under false or fraudulent
>> pretenses;"
>
> That is not what they wrote.
It's in the terms of service to which they referred you.
>> Google didn't argue with you because they don't want to waste their time
>> with loons like yourself. You broke the rules, you were booted, end of
>> story.
>
> If the latter were true, they would have been able to cite specific
> posts with the specific application of section 6.
They don't have to. By signing up with them, *you *voluntarily agreed to
the terms of service and it is *your responsibility to understand and
abide by them.
> Their inability to do this has condemned them.
>
>> Just *try to find a lawyer who'll represent you.
>
> Already have.
Sure you have. Can anybody else see this "lawyer?"
>> >> And the account you were using at the time is *still terminated isn't it?
>> >
>> > Those accounts would not serve as evidence against them if they had not
>> > been terminated.
>> >
>> > As the number of accounts grow so will the number of court exhibits
>> > demonstrating that indeed the censorship has been willful.
>>
>> Actually, Andy, creating multiple accounts on a service that has told you
>> to get lost is something for which *you can get in trouble.
>
> They would have to first tell me with justification and authority to
> stop using their free service and be able to show that I have received
> their written request. This would open them up to even more liability.
Nope. You agreed to the terms of service. You broke and are breaking the
terms of service.
>> > A jury of my American peers who respect the Constitutionally protected
>> > freedom of speech will simply "love the truth" especially when they
>> > learn that their award punishing Goodle will go to further the
>> > charitable work of civic organizations such as that represented here:
>
> http://TheHealthFair.com
>
>> Yeah, right. As if any lawyer will take such a case. Go on, try to find
>> one. I dare you.
>
> Finding interested attorneys has been easy.
But can anybody else see this "lawyer?"
> The data gathering has been easy too.
He has a little list...
Art Deco
Which would be my take on that proviso.
Bob (this one)
> Charlatan Chung, MOO/POO wrote:
>> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> Blowhole Andrew, boldly drooled:
>>>> A jury of my American peers who respect the Constitutionally protected
>>>> freedom of speech will simply "love the truth" especially when they
>>>> learn that their award punishing Goodle will go to further the
>>>> charitable work of civic organizations such as that represented here:
>
>> http://TheHealthFair.com
>>
>>> Yeah, right. As if any lawyer will take such a case. Go on, try to find
>>> one. I dare you.
>
>> Finding interested attorneys has been easy.
>
> But can anybody else see this "lawyer?"
>
>> The data gathering has been easy too.
>
> He has a little list...
<LOL> Probably the same attorney who was going to sue all
Andrew's critics for saying unpleasant things about him. All
those meanies. Had a whole web page all about libel and
threatened a lot of people with financial ruin.
Talk about your empty lab coat...
Pastorio
Art Deco
>Simply witness and behold the following:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e7e0682e95fea378?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/555b2275e9491f14?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e813735f9a849e14?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f13f07009381bfe4?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/fbf371392ff442fd?
Just another one of your obsessive hate lists, Chung. Big deal.
[spam flushed]
Art Deco
>On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 07:41:25 -0500, Meat Plow wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:13:00 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Has Frothed:
>>
>>> Convicted neighbor "percy" wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> > Convicted neighbor "percy" wrote:
>>>> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> >>>Melchizedek wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>The Downward Spiral
>>>> >>
>>>> >>a shitload of ko0kscreed snipped
>>>>
>>>> even more vomit (a la Linda Blair) snipped
>>>
>>> Easily brought back since it continues to appropriately describe your
>>> behavior:
>>
>> And what about your behavior? I spoke with my family MD whom I also
>> socialize a bit with, about you Mr. Chung. He said that any MD that spent
>> as much time pontificating on Usenet for whatever reason was certainly
>> derelict in his duties as a medical practitioner. My family MD is a
>> general practitioner. He sees patients from 8 to 12, 6 days a week. Then
>> he makes rounds to hospitals and nursing homes until 7 or 8 in the evening.
>> This is a man dedicated to his patients and to medicine. You on the other
>> hand, spend a great amount of time here on Usenet preaching and
>> pontificating. You are a disgrace to other dedicated doctors who you share
>> the MD tag with.
>>
>
>Really. Have you ever heard of a cardiologist who has time to diddle
>around on Usenet all day? Or at all? I mean, a *cardiologist? Did we run
>out of people with heart trouble or something?
Note: no response from the soon-to-be three-time Coward of the Month.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
You would not be seeing this post if it were GOD's will that this
BellSouth ISP account be terminated.
Truth is simple.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
The Rev Dr Hugh Jarse NLAHN
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> You would not be seeing this post if it were GOD's will that this
> BellSouth ISP account be terminated.
>
Since Bellsouth does have a NNTP server, why are you using Google
instead?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > You would not be seeing this post if it were GOD's will that this
> > BellSouth ISP account be terminated.
>
> Since Bellsouth does have a NNTP server, why are you using Google
> instead?
Building a case of against their unwise choice to attempt to censor the
writings of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Hugh whom I love unconditionally.
roger_...@yahoo.co.uk
> "Harry" <Ha...@Home.com> wrote in message news:459d8...@x-privat.org...
> > Kurt Gavin wrote:
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Where there is free will there is free expression of thought unfettered
> >>> by corporate mind control.
> >>>
> >>
> >> What a joke.
> >>
> >> A jesus nitwit whose mind has been taken over by myths and supernatural
> >> spirits, these "corporately" determined by people from the time of the
> >> Council of Nicaea in 318AD, talks about "free will".
The Council of Nicaea was in 325. The ideas as to what it did in this
paragraph seem to be based on the Da Vinci code rather than history,
tho.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> demon KG wrote:
> > "Harry" wrote:
> > > demon KG wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> by corporate mind control.
> > >>
> > >> What a joke.
> > >>
> > >> A jesus nitwit whose mind has been taken over by myths and supernatural
> > >> spirits, these "corporately" determined by people from the time of the
> > >> Council of Nicaea in 318AD, talks about "free will".
>
> The Council of Nicaea was in 325. The ideas as to what it did in this
> paragraph seem to be based on the Da Vinci code rather than history,
> tho.
Without the LORD, there can be neither knowledge or wisdom.
HE is the Source of all knowledge and wisdom.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
Roger whom I love unconditionally.
Louis
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:35:16 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> > Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >>
> >> > Andrew, I doubt very much that you are a cardiologist, it's probably
> >> > part of your delusional thinking.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, he has an actual license...
> >
> > Not by fortune but by GOD, Creator of heaven and earth.
>
> Uh huh. Let's see what happens when it comes up for renewal shall we?
>
Mark
This guy believes holy water will cure diabetes? Yikes. Erm, errrr,
good luck with that! Why do I get the feeling that upon my return to
usenet I have just come across a huge wellspring of unrealised 'tard
potential in Andrew B Chung? And "Andrew B Chung" is that a joke name
like "Johnny B Goode"?
Enquiring minds are....really rather disturbed by this chap.
Louis
Mark K. Bilbo
Oh no. It's real. Andrew Ben-Hua Chung, M.D. Has a license (for now) in
the state of Georgia.
https://www.gaphysicianprofile.org/profile.ShowProfileAction.action?lic_nbr=040347
What we got here is a live one. A bona fide whackadoo. You go back through
his posting history on Google, he used to be rather sane... ish. Quirky
but able to have a conversation without shrieking about The Deeeemons. But
Andy left reality behind at warp speed sometime in the last three years or
so.
> Enquiring minds are....really rather disturbed by this chap.
This Andy chap is the, heh, disturbed one...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
"Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
"Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
"Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"
- Epicurus
Mark K. Bilbo
Notice you lost the Google account? And how many others have been nuked
for violating the terms of service? And what about Supernews and Terranews?
You break the rules, you lose the account. That's how it works.
Not that I would expect a Christian to have any respect for rules or laws
or anything like that...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to
believe in him, then he should know what would prove his
existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason
to believe in him. - Woden
Mark K. Bilbo
And the LARD said, "Go forth and spam all the Usenet. To hell with those
people suffering from disease!"
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"God, shmod, I want my monkey man!"
- Bart Simpson
Mark K. Bilbo
He talks a good game but has retreated every time somebody has waved a
real lawyer at him. His website used to have disparaging commentary about
his former colleagues back in Ocala until one threatened him with a *real
lawyer. Now his advance fee fraud seems to be hidden unless your IP is
blessed by dog.
For all his bravado, he seems to still have *some idea in that pretzel of
a brain that his actions can get him into trouble...
SMC Demon Cabal Flying Rat
gm...@com.mkbilbo says...
Christians who lead decent, lawful existences. What it does do is show
up just how phony Chunky's alleged Christianity is.
He uses it as nothing more than a fig leaf to hide his trolling and
mental issues behind. The vast majority of Christians don't tell lies
constantly or run 419 frauds. They have jobs, too...
FR
(support groups snecked as that's what Teh Grate Fraudi Chunk wants to
dominate with his crap)
--
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format love#@thetruth.com (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into money but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover
onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass of as "being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly funddamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco.
marika
> Convicted neighbor Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>
> Google is a big company with many employees
> most with free will.
Wouldn't be a bad job if you could do it from home.
mk5000
"He found the Slasher tough!
For never did the Slasher call
' 'Old on, I've had enough.'
'Enough, enough!' he never cried,"--tipton slasher, rod beavon
Cary Kittrell
Mark Bilbo is God ... pardon me, GOD?
You know, that WOULD explain an awful lot...
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
And by that argument you have no grounds for suing Google; instead you
must tirelessly ferret out that lone maverick employee, not unlike O.J.
looking for his wife's REAL killer, and sue the little bastard.
-- cary
Mark K. Bilbo
No, not enough irony. If I were in charge, they're be *lots more.
Also, there would have been more than two Addams' Family movies...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
[God explaining the doctrine of free will.]
"In order not to impair human liberty, I will be ignorant
of what I know, I will thicken upon my eyes the veils
I have pierced, and in my blind clear-sightedness I will
let myself be surprised by what I have foreseen."
- Anatole France
Robibnikoff
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:BIadna2YhfXpAAPY...@giganews.com...
You make want to cry :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
Cary Kittrell
Speaking of which, if you're REALLY God, can I have Christian Ricci?
Please?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Google has shut down the accounts that have been used in an openly
Christian manner and have ignored the accounts where the very same
subscriber has refrained from being openly Christian.
This comparison will be used to condemn Google before judge and jury.
It is growing to become an iron-clad case against the Google goliath.
GOD has made me good with the sling and HE has given me several smooth
stones.
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
(other brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are welcome to participate in
subscribing to Google and witnessing first hand what happens when
posting on-topic in a favorite non-christian newsgroup in an openly
Christian manner... this could grow into a class action lawsuit).
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
Cary Kittrell
And I'm utterly certain of a Chung victory in this matter. I have
no doubt of it. And the reason I think that is both simple
and compelling: no matter the outcome -- any imaginable
outcome whatsoever -- Andrew will declare victory.
And hey, that worked in Viet Nam.
Didn't it?
-- cary
>
Mark K. Bilbo
One minute you claim the rules don't matter, the next you insist on there
being rules.
Fact of the matter is, FAQs and charters *do matter and you violate them
with impunity by crapping your religious spam where it is not appropriate.
You have no right to complain.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation
by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging
rational inquiry." - Richard Dawkins
Kurt Gavin
<roger_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1167985513....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Like most supernaturalists, the only things you can get right are irrelevant
nitpicks. It took a bunch of PEOPLE to get together to decide whether to
pretend Jesus was a supernatural being, or just a human being.
The purpose of the council was to resolve disagreements in the Church of
Alexandria over the nature of Jesus in relationship to the Father; in
particular, whether Jesus was of the same or merely of similar substance as
God the Father. St. Alexander of Alexandria and Athanasius took the first
position; the popular presbyter Arius, from whom the term Arian controversy
comes, took the second. The council decided against the Arians
overwhelmingly (of the estimated 250-318 attendees, all but 2 voted against
Arius). Another result of the council was an agreement on the date of the
Christian Passover (Pascha in Greek; Easter in modern English), the most
important feast of the ecclesiastical calendar. The council decided in
favour of celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ on the first Sunday
after the first full moon following the vernal equinox, independently of the
Bible's Hebrew Calendar (see also Quartodecimanism), and authorized the
Bishop of Alexandria (presumably using the Alexandrian calendar) to announce
annually the exact date to his fellow bishops.
The Council of Nicaea was historically significant because it was the first
effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing
all of Christendom.[2] "It was the first occasion for the development of
technical Christology."[2] Further, "Constantine in convoking and presiding
over the council signaled a measure of imperial control over the church."[2]
With the creation of the Nicene Creed, a precedent was established for
subsequent general councils to create a statement of belief and canons which
were intended to become guidelines for doctrinal orthodoxy and a source of
unity for the whole of Christendom - a momentous event in the history of the
Church and subsequent history of Europe.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> Without the LORD, there can be neither knowledge or wisdom.
Just about everybody without the "lord" has more reliable information than
you do.
So what does that say about you and your imaginery "lord"?
snip
roger_...@yahoo.co.uk
> <roger_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1167985513....@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Kurt Gavin wrote:
> >> "Harry" <Ha...@Home.com> wrote in message news:459d8...@x-privat.org...
> >> > Kurt Gavin wrote:
> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message >
> >> >>
> >> >>> Where there is free will there is free expression of thought
> >> >>> unfettered
> >> >>> by corporate mind control.
> >> >>
> >> >> What a joke.
> >> >>
> >> >> A jesus nitwit whose mind has been taken over by myths and
> >> >> supernatural spirits, these "corporately" determined by people
> >> >> from the time of the Council of Nicaea in 318AD, talks about "free will".
> >
> > The Council of Nicaea was in 325. The ideas as to what it did in this
> > paragraph seem to be based on the Da Vinci code rather than history,
>
> Like most supernaturalists, the only things you can get right are irrelevant
> nitpicks.
Glad to help.
> It took a bunch of PEOPLE to get together to decide whether to
> pretend Jesus was a supernatural being, or just a human being.
I suspect that some people think that this is what happened at the
Council of Nicaea, perhaps because this is in the Da Vinci code?
However it did not. Both sides at the Council were Trinitarian and
believed Jesus was fully God. The disagreement was over whether the
Second Person of the Trinity was of the same substance (hypostasis) as
the First (homoousios) or of like substance.
But don't ask me what that *means* -- theology of this kind makes me
get sleepy, and one needs to know Aristotle which I don't.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
(Paste snipped)
Unfortunately no-one can rely on anything on this subject in Wikipedia
since the Da Vinci code came out. The article could be worse, but it
could certainly be better.
roger_...@yahoo.co.uk
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>
> > Without the LORD, there can be neither knowledge or wisdom.
>
> Just about everybody without the "lord" has more reliable information than
> you do.
An unfortunate comment after a factual slip-up, surely?
> So what does that say about you and your imaginery "lord"?
That they can spell? <evil grin>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Your sarcasm simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
In truth, the victory would belong to LORD GOD Almighty, Creator of
heaven and earth.
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Truth is simple.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Cary whom I love unconditionally.
Kurt Gavin
<roger_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1168032598.5...@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com...
> Kurt Gavin wrote:
Your chief characteristic seems to be ignorance of what's important, and
dwelling on nitpicking.
Snip
Kurt Gavin
<roger_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1168032469.2...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No, that is what you in your ignorance have deluded yourself into believing.
> However it did not. Both sides at the Council were Trinitarian and
> believed Jesus was fully God. The disagreement was over whether the
> Second Person of the Trinity was of the same substance (hypostasis) as
> the First (homoousios) or of like substance.
> But don't ask me what that *means* -- theology of this kind makes me
> get sleepy, and one needs to know Aristotle which I don't.
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
> (Paste snipped)
>
> Unfortunately no-one can rely on anything on this subject in Wikipedia
> since the Da Vinci code came out.
Bullshit.
However, all this quibbling would be unneccesary if you "believers" would
just produce your "living" gods and let them prove themselves and their
powers.
When will you do that?
snip
Kurt Gavin
When Jesus Became God: The Struggle to Define Christianity during the Last
Days of Rome (Paperback)
by Richard E. Rubenstein
Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
The Gospel narratives may suggest that Jesus was divine, but they do not
insist upon it. Hundreds of years after Jesus' death, the Church councils
made Jesus' divinity a central tenet of belief among many of his followers.
When Jesus Became God: The Epic Fight over Christ's Divinity in the Last
Days of Rome by Richard Rubenstein is a narrative history of Christians'
early efforts to define Christianity by convening councils and writing
creeds. Rubenstein is most interested in the battle between Arius, Presbyter
of Alexandria, and Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria. Arius said that Christ
did not share God's nature but was the first creature God created.
Athanasius said that Christ was fully God. At the Council of Nicea in 325,
the Church Fathers came down on Athanasius's side and made Arius's belief a
heresy.
Rubenstein's brisk, incisive prose brings the councils' 4th-century Roman
setting fully alive, with riots, civil strife, and spectacular public
debates. Rubenstein is also personally invested in the meaning of these
councils for religious life today: he wrote this book, in part, because he
grew up in a mixed Jewish Catholic neighborhood and was bewildered by
animosity between the religious groups on his block. Digging back in
history, Rubenstein learns that before the Arian controversy, "Jews and
Christians could talk to each other and argue among themselves about crucial
issues like the divinity of Jesus.... They disagreed strongly about many
things, but there was still a closeness between them." But when the
controversy was settled, Rubenstein notes, "that closeness faded. To
Christians, God became a Trinity and heresy became a crime. Judaism became a
form of infidelity. And Jews living in Christian countries learned not to
think very much about Jesus and his message." --Michael Joseph Gross --This
text refers to the Hardcover edition.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
The same garbage, over and over and over.... lists of "convicts",
exorcisms,....
Cary Kittrell
I cannot deny the gift GOD has given me for the purpose of deflating
the pompous and the self-important.
-- cary
Demon Chunky Style
One for the archives...
Andrew B. Chung wrote:
> Google has shut down the accounts that have been used in an openly
> Christian manner and have ignored the accounts where the very same
> subscriber has refrained from being openly Christian.
>This comparison will be used to condemn Google before judge and jury.
>It is growing to become an iron-clad case against the Google goliath.
>GOD has made me good with the sling and HE has given me several smooth
>stones.
Let's go slooooooooowly, Andy.
Do you think -- just possibly -- that there could be a *reason* that
accounts you intentionally use ONLY for sticking to on-topic replies
*don't* get banned?
Could it be that you don't use *these* accounts to spam?
Could it be that you don't use *these* accounts to attempt to browbeat
others with hilarious admonitions of doom?
Could it be that you don't use *these* accounts to crosspost wildly
offtopic hyperreligious inanities to support groups?
Could it be that you don't use *these* accounts to willfully walk all
over the Google TOS?
Sensing a pattern?
-end reply-
I hereby nominate Earthquack for the Custer (unless someone beat me to
it).
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> I cannot deny the gift GOD has given me for the purpose of deflating
> the pompous and the self-important.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to acknowledge HIS existence.
Laus Deo ! ! ! ! ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
Art Deco
Seconded with glee.
Mark K. Bilbo
Oh stop all that groveling! It's like those Psalms, sooooooooo depressing....
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
Kurt Gavin
Pinku-Sensei
@usa.net:
> Demon Chunky Style <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chung's delusional foaming and Demon's LARTing of same read and snipped.
>>I hereby nominate Earthquack for the Custer (unless someone beat me to
>>it).
>
> Seconded with glee.
Rejected. First, the good Double-Doctor hasn't declared "VICTOLLY" yet--at
least not for /this/ crusade. Second, he already has a Custer and would
have to top his previous effort for me to approve a nomination for a new
one. Third, he hasn't either been nominated for or won a Pickett's Charge
yet. Morph this nomination into a Pickett and I'll accept it.
--
Pinku-Sensei
FNVW of AUK
Demon Chunky Style
I stand corrected.
I hereby nominate Quackie for the Pickett, in honor of his quixotic
joust with the big G.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b289d725c348af2d?dmode=source
Art Deco
>Pinku-Sensei wrote:
>> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in news:050120071854423123%erfc-1024
>> @usa.net:
>>
>> > Demon Chunky Style <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Chung's delusional foaming and Demon's LARTing of same read and snipped.
>>
>> >>I hereby nominate Earthquack for the Custer (unless someone beat me to
>> >>it).
>> >
>> > Seconded with glee.
>>
>> Rejected. First, the good Double-Doctor hasn't declared "VICTOLLY" yet--at
>> least not for /this/ crusade. Second, he already has a Custer and would
>> have to top his previous effort for me to approve a nomination for a new
>> one. Third, he hasn't either been nominated for or won a Pickett's Charge
>> yet. Morph this nomination into a Pickett and I'll accept it.
>> --
>> Pinku-Sensei
>> FNVW of AUK
>
>I stand corrected.
>
>I hereby nominate Quackie for the Pickett, in honor of his quixotic
>joust with the big G.
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b289d725c348af2d?dmode=source
Again seconded.
roger_...@yahoo.co.uk
I'm not clear why you quote all this, why this book is of interest --
surely we can do our own research? -- or how it relates to our
discussion -- sorry.
I would be most interested to learn why you suppose that I am ignorant
about what happened at the Council of Nicaea. As it happens I got
suspicious of all the hearsay that goes around about events at it some
time ago, and went and looked up all the primary texts. If an event
isn't it them, it didn't happen. I did write a set of links to them
also:
http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/nicaea.html
> > However it did not. Both sides at the Council were Trinitarian and
> > believed Jesus was fully God. The disagreement was over whether the
> > Second Person of the Trinity was of the same substance (hypostasis) as
> > the First (homoousios) or of like substance.
>
> > But don't ask me what that *means* -- theology of this kind makes me
> > get sleepy, and one needs to know Aristotle which I don't.
> >
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
> > (Paste snipped)
> >
> > Unfortunately no-one can rely on anything on this subject in Wikipedia
> > since the Da Vinci code came out.
>
> Bullshit.
In your opinion.
> However, all this quibbling would be unneccesary if you "believers" would
> just produce your "living" gods and let them prove themselves and their
> powers.
>
> When will you do that?
I'm afraid that this has nothing to do with my post.
It is rather odd, tho, that you hurl insults at the world's largest
religion and its members, while being unable to state what you believe
instead. Irrational conformity to a convenient subset of period
societal values is probably your religious position, and that isn't a
valid intellectual position. Empty hatred merely means that you need
to learn some tolerance.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Such is the behavior of demons.
Without free will there can be no free independent thought:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/55b9f72abe5705dc?
They thrive on hatred and pine for attention:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7e410a70af32e174?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8883b47dd78486e4?
Behold how hurt they are when ignored... even calling it cyberstalking:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7308c32a98b738e8?
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear Roger
Sock Puppet
no accounts of him having sex, he refused to marry because of his fear of
women and he kept the company of men.