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Re: Is It Possible For A Saved Person Ever To Be Lost?

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 7, 2009, 6:15:38 PM6/7/09
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Carl wrote:
>
> In the following essay, Dr. J. Vernon McGee examines by Scripture the
> oft-debated topic of whether or not someone can lose lose their salvation.
> It is a most interesting treatise on the topic well worth reading.

It remains wise to seek and receive the counsel of the Holy Spirit
when undertaking an exegesis of Scripture.

> May God bless,
> Carl
> my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
> my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
>
> ---
>
> Is It Possible For A Saved Person Ever To Be Lost?
> by Dr. J. Vernon McGee
>
> [All Scripture references are from the New Scofield Reference Bible.]
>
> For as touching those who were once enlightened and tasted of the heavenly
> gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and tasted the good word
> of God, and the powers of the age to come, and then fell away, it is
> impossible to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to
> themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. (Hebrews
> 6:4-6)

Amen.

Those "who were once enlightened and tasted of the heavenly gift, and
were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and tasted the good word of
GOD, and the powers of the age to come" are those faux-christians who
knew the truth, Who is Jesus, in their brains but still did not trust
Him in their hearts. Without ever trusting Jesus in their hearts,
they all in time fall away harming (crucifying) those of us who as
true Christians (either Jew or gentile) remain part of the body of
Christ here in this world. This is why it is important to know who
these faux-christians are so that we can be mindful of WDJW and pray
for their perishing souls in hopes that GOD would soften their hearts
by changing their hearts of stone to hearts of flesh (Ezekiel
11:19-20) sooner rather than later for His Kingdom's glory.

A recent example of a faux-christian in our midst:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7b49077f2838351f?

Again, Carl, can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

tr...@finder.com

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Jun 7, 2009, 6:46:03 PM6/7/09
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"It remains wise to seek and receive the counsel of the Holy Spirit
when undertaking an exegesis of Scripture."

Truth:

And doing so requires one seek others by which their judgement can keep
lone ranger bible readers from error and self delusion about source of
direction.

May God bless and protect and heal.

Thommadura

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Jun 7, 2009, 8:47:06 PM6/7/09
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tr...@finder.com wrote:
> "It remains wise to seek and receive the counsel of the Holy Spirit
> when undertaking an exegesis of Scripture."

Really - who said that one ?

Of purpose would it be to seek the council of an imaginary figure that
cannot be proven to exist - to understand the MYTHS of the bible?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 8, 2009, 6:05:02 PM6/8/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks in our local communities for the
probable eventuality of a deadlier Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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