Re: NO cure, NO reversal, Just managment
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> The header say it all.
What you have written is not true for most living type-2 diabetics who
have not required insulin yet. If it were true, the bariatric
surgeons touting a surgical cure for type-2 diabetes would have so
many complaining post-surgical patients disappointed with their
outcomes of persistent type-2 diabetes that their respective medical
boards would be compelled to revoke their medical licenses.
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
tr...@for-me.com
"What you have written is not true for most living type-2 diabetics who
have not required insulin yet. If it were true, the bariatric
surgeons touting a surgical cure for type-2 diabetes would have so
many complaining post-surgical patients disappointed with their
outcomes of persistent type-2 diabetes that their respective medical
boards would be compelled to revoke their medical licenses."
Show us the t2 diabetics who get the surgerybut are not in the morbid
obese range, the vast majority in fact.
Show us the t2 diabetics who have achieved the same weight losses by
diet and exercise to normal levels and have a "cure".
The "cure" happens long before weight loss and loss of vat in the
surgery examples, most likely as a result of the greatly increased
incretin levels.
This small stubborn fact alone continues to refute the two pound diet
and its trash science "and all claims for it as a "cure".
God bless.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Our friend from atlanta was compelled to express the opinion:
>
> "What you have written is not true for most living type-2 diabetics who
> have not required insulin yet. If it were true, the bariatric
> surgeons touting a surgical cure for type-2 diabetes would have so
> many complaining post-surgical patients disappointed with their
> outcomes of persistent type-2 diabetes that their respective medical
> boards would be compelled to revoke their medical licenses."
>
> Show us the t2 diabetics who get the surgerybut are not in the morbid
> obese range, the vast majority in fact.
Having morbid obesity does not exclude the diagnosis of type-2
diabetes.
> Show us the t2 diabetics who have achieved the same weight losses by
> diet and exercise to normal levels and have a "cure".
Diet and exercise alone without eating less, down to the optimal
amount, does not achieve the loss of visceral adipose tissue (VAT)
that is required to achieve a cure. The weight loss that occurs from
diet and exercise is SAT and muscle when there is no increased hunger
from eating less, down to the optimal amount.
> The "cure" happens long before weight loss and loss of vat in the
> surgery examples,
Your usual lie, satan.
The reduction in VAT starts immediately with eating less and being
hungrier regardless of whether by choice or by bariatric surgery:
> most likely as a result of the greatly increased incretin levels.
You do have incretin in your saliva, satan, for you are the ancient
dragon as written in Revelation.
It remains your fantasy that the poison in your spit cures type-2
diabetes and you attempt to pass this off as a fact when in fact it
is a lie.
You have held this fantasy ever since Jesus used HIS spit to cure
congenital blindness:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Healer.asp
However, your incretin, satan, kills the hunger that is required for
the body to breakdown the VAT that is causing the type-2 diabetes.
Moreover, your incretin causes cancer.
May your suffering and pain be infinitely greater than the
unimaginable suffering and pain you have wrought upon others with your
lies when GOD casts you to be consumed in that lake of fire HE has
prepared for you, satan.
Once more in Jesus' most precious and holy name, I curse and rebuke
you, satan.
Prayerfully in the incredibly fantastic power of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Servant of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
flyingrat
heart...@emorycardiology.com says...
> May your suffering and pain be infinitely greater than the
> unimaginable suffering and pain you have wrought upon others with your
> lies when GOD casts you to be consumed in that lake of fire HE has
> prepared for you, satan.
>
> Once more in Jesus' most precious and holy name, I curse and rebuke
> you, satan.
>
roll up folks, the weekend meltdown is upon us.
Chung will be wandering round Mableton with his trashcan lid and wooden
sword, 'smiting' Satan wherever he finds him. Please make sure that the
authorities know any red-painted fire hydrants are liable to be damaged.
FR
--
as he is issuing new commandments, does that not mean Chung is again
setting himself up as a prophet? The messenger of God?
"But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not
commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods,
must be put to death."
"You may say to yourselves, 'How can we know when a message has not
been spoken by the Lord?' If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the
Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has
not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of
him" (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NIV).
So as Chung prophesied earthquakes, nuclear wars, the destruction of
Tehran (complete with dates) and the rest, that qualifies him firmly as
a false prophet. No doubt his St Chung the Baptist fantasy will continue
unabated.
FR
tr...@is-best.com
> surgery examples,
"Your usual lie, satan.
The reduction in VAT starts immediately with eating less and being
hungrier regardless of whether by choice or by bariatric surgery:
In the above the time horizon is 3 months, the dramatic changes in insulin
resistance and glucose control happen within days. This rapid change by
degree is far higher then the gradual decrease in weight and vat.
> most likely as a result of the greatly increased incretin levels.
"You do have incretin in your saliva, satan, for you are the ancient
dragon as written in Revelation."
Satin not being human but an angel does not have a humans physiology.
"It remains your fantasy that the poison in your spit cures type-2
diabetes and you attempt to pass this off as a fact when in fact it
is a lie."
Incretins are a normal and necessary hormone involved in the metabolism of
food and of energy. Vat is a normal gland producing hormones used in
energy metabolism. It presents a problem when at abnormally high levels.
"You have held this fantasy ever since Jesus used HIS spit to cure
congenital blindness:"
Relevance to the topic please?
"However, your incretin, satan, kills the hunger that is required for
the body to breakdown the VAT that is causing the type-2 diabetes."
Hunger is a physiological perception, not an enzyme nor other biochemical
that "breaks down" anything. Vat occurs after the beginning of insulin
resistance which in turn is related to genetic predisposition. Only 1/3 of
those with excess vat and other symptoms in a similar range proceed to
diabetes because of the genetics involved.
"Moreover, your incretin causes cancer."
As a promoter of cell growth it can contribute in some specific situations,
likewise by genetic predisposition in abnormal situations. It like many
other promoters of cell growth are necessary for normal human
development and cellular replacement. For examples incretins are a direct
cause of the lining of the gut. In the case of diabetes they are required
for beta cell replacement and repair as required.
God bless and protect and provide peace.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> > The "cure" happens long before weight loss and loss of vat in the
> > surgery examples,
>
> "Your usual lie, satan.
>
> The reduction in VAT starts immediately with eating less and being
> hungrier regardless of whether by choice or by bariatric surgery:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/27gv86"
>
> In the above the time horizon is 3 months, the dramatic changes in insulin
> resistance and glucose control happen within days. This rapid change by
> degree is far higher then the gradual decrease in weight and vat.
Lie.
Crossing below the threshold of beta cell insufficiency at two levels
(food intake **and** insulin resistance) results in the observed rapid
effect of better blood glucose control within days of drastically
decreasing intake.
> > most likely as a result of the greatly increased incretin levels.
>
> "You do have incretin in your saliva, satan, for you are the ancient
> dragon as written in Revelation."
>
> Satin not being human but an angel does not have a humans physiology.
Lie.
You, satan, were an angel until you fell from GOD's grace becoming a
dragon when you hit the ground of this planet.
Dragons have incretins in their saliva. Humans do not.
> "It remains your fantasy that the poison in your spit cures type-2
> diabetes and you attempt to pass this off as a fact when in fact it
> is a lie."
>
> Incretins are a normal and necessary hormone involved in the metabolism of
> food and of energy.
Lie.
The incretins in your spit, satan, are poisonous.
> Vat is a normal gland producing hormones used in
> energy metabolism.
Lie.
VAT is completely pathological. What it produces are harmful
cytokines. The healthiest folks have no VAT.
> It presents a problem when at abnormally high levels.
Lie.
Even a few ounces can cause harm in some folks:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0705408104v1.pdf
> "You have held this fantasy ever since Jesus used HIS spit to cure
> congenital blindness:"
>
> Relevance to the topic please?
You have incretins in your spit that you wish to pass off as curative
for type-2 diabetes, satan.
> "However, your incretin, satan, kills the hunger that is required for
> the body to breakdown the VAT that is causing the type-2 diabetes."
>
> Hunger is a physiological perception, not an enzyme nor other biochemical
> that "breaks down" anything.
Lie.
Hunger is clearly a physiological state as soon as one hears energetic
stomach sounds coming from a stomach that is being well perfused
indicating that the VAT is also being well perfused. It is the well
perfused VAT that gets taken down.
> Vat occurs after the beginning of insulin
> resistance which in turn is related to genetic predisposition.
Lie.
VAT is the source of the harmful pro-inflammatory cytokines known to
cause insulin resistance. Without the acquisition of VAT, there would
be no acquiring insulin resistance.
> Only 1/3 of
> those with excess vat and other symptoms in a similar range proceed to
> diabetes because of the genetics involved.
Lie.
This goes to 100% if all folks choose to overeat to accumulate ever
greater amounts VAT ultimately driving insulin resistance beyond their
individual capacity of beta islet cell sufficiency.
> "Moreover, your incretin causes cancer."
>
> As a promoter of cell growth it can contribute in some specific situations,
> likewise by genetic predisposition in abnormal situations. It like many
> other promoters of cell growth are necessary for normal human
> development and cellular replacement. For examples incretins are a direct
> cause of the lining of the gut. In the case of diabetes they are required
> for beta cell replacement and repair as required.
Lie.
Incretins serve no such vital functions as you describe, satan.
If they did, double knock-outs of incretin receptors in mice would not
be as viable as reported:
Clearly, lying is your native language as it is written.
May your excruciating suffering be extreme and everlasting beyond all
imagining when you, satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that
awaits you.
In Jesus' most precious and holy name, I rebuke and curse you yet
again, satan.
Prayerfully in the infinite power of the Holy Spirit,
tr...@is-best.com
situations,
> likewise by genetic predisposition in abnormal situations. It like
many
> other promoters of cell growth are necessary for normal human
> development and cellular replacement. For examples incretins are a
direct
> cause of the lining of the gut. In the case of diabetes they are
required
> for beta cell replacement and repair as required.
"Lie.
Incretins serve no such vital functions as you describe, satan.
If they did, double knock-outs of incretin receptors in mice would not
be as viable as reported:"
Sorry you have not kept up with the literature. Incretins do exactly as
mentioned and more. Studies provided upon request. The mice above had
distorted, but not fatal, metabolic responses of reduced insulin and
related factors. Incretins have been shown to be a known agent
available to cause beta cell mass increase and protection in diabetes.
May God bless and protect you and provide peace.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> > As a promoter of cell growth it can contribute in some specific
> situations,
> > likewise by genetic predisposition in abnormal situations. It like
> many
> > other promoters of cell growth are necessary for normal human
> > development and cellular replacement. For examples incretins are a
> direct
> > cause of the lining of the gut. In the case of diabetes they are
> required
> > for beta cell replacement and repair as required.
>
> "Lie.
>
> Incretins serve no such vital functions as you describe, satan.
>
> If they did, double knock-outs of incretin receptors in mice would not
> be as viable as reported:"
>
>"
> Sorry you have not kept up with the literature.
Lie.
It should be obvious to the most casual observer that the mice
incretin receptor knockout studies prove that incretin function is
**not** essential for normal development as you falsely claim.
>From the cited reference:
"Similarly, double incretin receptor knockout (DIRKO) mice exhibit
normal body weight and normal levels of plasma glucagon and
hypoglycemic responses to exogenous insulin."
Indeed, the double incretin receptor knockouts are normal until they
overeat (loaded with oral glucose).
>From the same cited reference:
"However, glucose-stimulated insulin secretion is significantly
decreased following oral but not intraperitoneal glucose challenge in
DIRKO mice and the glucose lowering actions of dipeptidyl peptidase-IV
(DPP-IV) inhibitors are extinguished in DIRKO mice."
Bottomline:
You remain ever a liar, satan.
May the pain and suffering caused by your lies especially that which
is being experienced by all type-2 diabetics be returned to you in
countless unimaginable ways when you are consumed by the lake of fire
that awaits you, satan.
In Jesus' holy and awesome name, I curse and rebuke you once more,
satan.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
flyingrat
heart...@emorycardiology.com says...
> You remain ever a liar, satan.
>
> May the pain and suffering caused by your lies especially that which
> is being experienced by all type-2 diabetics be returned to you in
> countless unimaginable ways when you are consumed by the lake of fire
> that awaits you, satan.
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format love#@thetruth.com (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
tr...@is-best.com
overeat (loaded with oral glucose)."
>From the same cited reference:
"However, glucose-stimulated insulin secretion is significantly
decreased following oral but not intraperitoneal glucose challenge in
DIRKO mice and the glucose lowering actions of dipeptidyl peptidase-IV
(DPP-IV) inhibitors are extinguished in DIRKO mice."
Had you kept up with the research in this area you would know what
significance the above displays.
It is the experimental definition of the incretin effect. It is the
minimal 50 percent insulin release that results from the incretins.
In normal mice, and we humans, with normal incretin action unlike the
knock out mice that function is seen. Glucose given by mouth compared
to glucose given iv produces 50 percent more insulin release.
In a t2 diabetic that incretin function is greatly disordered such that
large post meal damaging glucose peaks occur. One function of the
incretins is to tightly track the insulin release to amount of glucose
on hand. This problem in t2 diabetes is a core symptom of the disorter.
Incretins have other important functions related to glucose metabolism
also. They promote beta cell health, slow down cell death, and promote
cell mass increases as required.
A t2 diabetic has 1/2 beta cell loss at diagnosis. In animal
experiments giving diabitics incretins restore beta cell mass and normal
glucose control even when the incretins are no longer given.
Sadly your use, or misuse, of this abstract illustrates your flaws in
this area. You have not kept up on the research, you selectively pick
language that can be made to seem to support your notions, you ignore
the research showing clear refutation of those notions.
The two pound diet is trash science and has been refuted in part and in
whole by research provided you previously. It is ignored or attacked.
Such is the case with the incretin effect which prompted you into the
current display of your lack of knowledge in the area and/or willfull
mis-representation of same.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> overeat (loaded with oral glucose)."
>
> >From the same cited reference:
>
> "However, glucose-stimulated insulin secretion is significantly
> decreased following oral but not intraperitoneal glucose challenge in
> DIRKO mice and the glucose lowering actions of dipeptidyl peptidase-IV
> (DPP-IV) inhibitors are extinguished in DIRKO mice."
>
> Had you kept up with the research in this area you would know what
> significance the above displays.
Lie.
The Source of all knowledge and wisdom is GOD and not human effort.
> It is the experimental definition of the incretin effect. It is the
> minimal 50 percent insulin release that results from the incretins.
Lie.
It is simply the characterization of DIRKO mice proving that they are
indeed double incretin receptor knockouts because they lack the normal
augmented insulin response to oral loading (overfeeding) with glucose
compared to intraperitoneal glucose loading. The augmented insulin
response to overfeeding is mediated by incretins. It is
understandable that with the repeated insult of overeating resulting
in the overdependence of incretins that incretin response would become
disordered.
> In normal mice, and we humans, with normal incretin action unlike the
> knock out mice that function is seen. Glucose given by mouth compared
> to glucose given iv produces 50 percent more insulin release.
Lie.
Your 50 percent figure is inherently factitious.
> In a t2 diabetic that incretin function is greatly disordered such that
> large post meal damaging glucose peaks occur. One function of the
> incretins is to tightly track the insulin release to amount of glucose
> on hand. This problem in t2 diabetes is a core symptom of the disorter.
Lie.
The double incretin receptor knockout (DIRKO) mice have no incretin
function and yet exhibit no diabetes.
Therefore, the core problem with type-2 diabetes is clearly not
disordered incretin function.
> Incretins have other important functions related to glucose metabolism
> also. They promote beta cell health, slow down cell death, and promote
> cell mass increases as required.
Lie.
The DIRKO mice have normal beta cell function and normal beta cell
mass.
Therefore, incretin function is not required for normal beta cell
function and normal beta cell mass.
> A t2 diabetic has 1/2 beta cell loss at diagnosis. In animal
> experiments giving diabitics incretins restore beta cell mass and normal
> glucose control even when the incretins are no longer given.
Lie.
There you go again touting your poison (incretins) as a cure for
type-2 diabetes.
The beta cell loss in type-2 diabetics is not from disordered incretin
function but from VAT driven inflammation and insulin resistance
causing beta cell apoptosis.
If the former were the case instead of the latter, the DIRKO mice
would have beta cell loss. They don't. When there is no overeating
(loading with oral glucose), they exhibit a normal phenotype.
> Sadly your use, or misuse, of this abstract illustrates your flaws in
> this area.
Lie.
The viability and normal phenotype of DIRKO mice is irrefutable
evidence against incretins having any important function in animals
that are not overeating.
> You have not kept up on the research, you selectively pick
> language that can be made to seem to support your notions, you ignore
> the research showing clear refutation of those notions.
Lie.
The language remains English here. The data from research using DIRKO
mice have been applied with surgical precision to expose your lies,
satan.
> The two pound diet...
Lie.
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
Bottomline:
Lying remains your native language.
May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those afflicted
with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you.
In the magnificent name of LORD Jesus Christ, I curse and rebuke you
yet again.
Prayerfully in the unfathomable power and might of the Holy Spirit,
tr...@is-best.com
May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those afflicted
with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you.
In the magnificent name of LORD Jesus Christ, I curse and rebuke you
yet again."
I forgive you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
>
> May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those afflicted
> with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you.
>
> In the magnificent name of LORD Jesus Christ, I curse and rebuke you
>
> I forgive you.
The forgiveness of the eternally condemned (ie you, satan) is
meaningless.
The forgiveness of GOD is infinitely more meaningful.
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...
... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
> May God bless and protect you and provide peace.
The prayers and supplications of the eternally condemned (ie you,
satan) are meaningless.
Your feign at prayer is noted, however.
May the pain, agony, and suffering that your lies have inflicted on
others especially those afflicted with type-2 diabetes be returned to
you amplified infinitely when you are cast into that lake of fire that
awaits you, satan.
In the holy and precious name of LORD Jesus Christ, I continue to
curse and rebuke you, satan.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Servant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
tr...@is-better.com
"May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those afflicted
with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> > "May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those afflicted
> > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
>
> I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
Lie.
You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
diabetes.
Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
In Jesus' most precious and holy name, I rebuke you yet again, satan.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Servant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
tr...@is-best.com
> > "May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those
afflicted
> > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
>
> I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
"Lie.
You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
diabetes.
Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:"
Our Lord was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
replied, meaning without end.
I a mere human have many flaws, I forgive you. If I have offended,
forgive me.
To replace the most important part edited from above,
May God bless and protect you and provide peace.
Go with the peace of God.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> afflicted
> > > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
> >
> > I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
>
> "Lie.
>
> You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
>
> Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
> diabetes.
>
> Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:
>
>"
>
> Our Lord was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
> replied, meaning without end.
Lie.
You have no lord, satan, except yourself and you remain eternally
condemned for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. There is no
forgiveness for unwisely doing the latter.
In Jesus' most precious and holy name, I rebuke you yet again.
tr...@is-better.com
afflicted
> > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
>
> I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
"Lie.
You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
diabetes.
Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:"
Our Lord was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
replied, meaning without end.
I a mere human have many flaws, I forgive you. If I have offended,
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
fashion:
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> afflicted
> > > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
> >
> > I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
>
> "Lie.
>
> You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
>
> Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
> diabetes.
>
> Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:
>
>"
>
> Our Lord ...
Lie.
Your Lord is yourself and not Jesus, Who is my LORD:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40371e4998fa3240?
Again, you have been rebuked in Jesus' awesome name.
Jesus
wrote:
> Your Lord is yourself and not Jesus, Who is my LORD:
*I* am Jesus. *I* am your Lord.
And *I* command you to drive to the nearest mental health facility and
explain to them that you've been seeing dragons while battling satan
online.
Do it NOW, Andrew. Don't make me come down there and ass-rape you
again.
tr...@is-best.com
> > "May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those
afflicted
> > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
>
> I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
"Lie.
You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
diabetes.
Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:"
Our Lord was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
tr...@is-better.com
> > "May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those
afflicted
> > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
>
> I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
"Lie.
You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
diabetes.
Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:"
Our Lord was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
fashion:
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
>
> > I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
>
> "Lie.
>
> You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
>
> Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
> diabetes.
>
> Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:
>
tr...@is-best.com
> > "May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those
afflicted
> > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
>
> I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
"Lie.
You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
diabetes.
Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:"
Our Lord was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
continues to hiss:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
> >
> > I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
>
> "Lie.
>
> You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
>
> Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
> diabetes.
>
> Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:
>
>"
>
> Our Lord
Lie.
There is no "Our Lord" here.
You, satan, are your own Lord while Jesus is my LORD.
> was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
> replied, meaning without end.
Lie.
There is no "we" here.
You, satan, and your sockpuppets (corporeal demons) are eternally
condemned for blaspheming the Holy Spirit and are never to be
forgiven:
"And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but
blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven." -- LORD Jesus
Christ
Amen.
> I a mere human have many flaws, I forgive you. If I have offended,
> forgive me.
Lie.
You, satan, are not human.
You, satan, are not to be forgiven.
You, satan, will be cast into that lake of fire that awaits you as has
been prophesied.
> To replace the most important part edited from above,
Lie.
Your feigned prayers and supplications have no importance, satan.
> May God bless and protect you and provide peace.
Feign.
You, satan, know that GOD does not receive the prayers of the
eternally condemned such as either yourself or your sockpuppets
(corporeal demons).
> Go with the peace of God.
It remains my choice to continue to do GOD's will and not your will.
Jesus is LORD.
Again, in Jesus' precious and holy name, I rebuke you.
Archie Leach
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You and Steebie Winter ought to go into business together.
Steve O
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> These posts just get stupidier and stupier all the time.
Such is the written discourse that happens with those who lack the
wisdom and knowledge that comes only from GOD.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
tr...@is-best.com
> > "May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those
afflicted
> > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
>
> I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
"Lie.
You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
diabetes.
Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:"
Our Lord was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
replied, meaning without end.
I a mere human have many flaws, I forgive you. If I have offended,
forgive me.
To replace the most important part edited from above,
May God bless and protect you and provide peace.
Go with the peace of God.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f61ea3b1ca51ced?
Cary Kittrell
> tr...@is-best.com wrote:
> > > > "May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those
> > afflicted
> > > > with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
> > > > satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you."
> > >
> > > I a mere human with many flaws forgive you.
> >
> > "Lie.
> >
> > You, satan, are the ancient dragon as described in Revelation.
> >
> > Your spit contains incretins, which you tout as a cure for type-2
> > diabetes.
> >
> > Meanwhile, your lie about hunger is causing type-2 diabetes:"
> >
> > Our Lord was asked how many times we were to forgive, "70 times 7" He
> > replied, meaning without end.
> >
> > I a mere human have many flaws, I forgive you. If I have offended,
> > forgive me.
> >
> > To replace the most important part edited from above,
> >
> > May God bless and protect you and provide peace.
> >
> > Go with the peace of God.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f61ea3b1ca51ced?
>
> Again, you have been rebuked in Jesus' awesome name.
And again, it has zero effect: `tr...@is-best.com' will
continue to post, in spite of your rebuke.
Or -- since it is sometimes effecacious to enter the
victim's delusional world -- Satan will continue
to post, in spite of your rebuke.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >
> > Again, you have been rebuked in Jesus' awesome name.
>
> And again, it has zero effect
Neither for the discerning nor for you.
If there had been zero effect, you would not have been compelled by
GOD to unwittingly draw attention to the fact that there has been an
effect just as Jesus rebuking the Sea of Galilee brought about calm so
has rebuking satan, in Jesus' name, brought about a calm among satan's
sockpuppets (corporeal demons) and among atheists, who now realize
that noone has yet to curse LORD Almighty GOD as satan has been cursed
and lived long enough to post such a curse here on usenet.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f61ea3b1ca51ced?
> > >
> > > Again, you have been rebuked in Jesus' awesome name.
> >
> > And again, it has zero effect
>
> Neither for the discerning nor for you.
>
> If there had been zero effect, you would not have been compelled by
> GOD to unwittingly draw attention to the fact that there has been an
> effect just as Jesus rebuking the Sea of Galilee brought about calm so
> has rebuking satan, in Jesus' name, brought about a calm among satan's
> sockpuppets (corporeal demons) and among atheists, who now realize
> that noone has yet to curse LORD Almighty GOD as satan has been cursed
> and lived long enough to post such a curse here on usenet.
>
Ah, those were the days, eh? People cursing god with increasing
imaganition, thoroughness, and creativity -- and you scrambling futiley
to somehow spin it they hadn't REALLY cursed god, in spite of all
that they plainly wrote.
You were so dang cute when they backed you into a corner
like that.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f61ea3b1ca51ced?
> > > >
> > > > Again, you have been rebuked in Jesus' awesome name.
> > >
> > > And again, it has zero effect
> >
> > Neither for the discerning nor for you.
> >
> > If there had been zero effect, you would not have been compelled by
> > GOD to unwittingly draw attention to the fact that there has been an
> > effect just as Jesus rebuking the Sea of Galilee brought about calm so
> > has rebuking satan, in Jesus' name, brought about a calm among satan's
> > sockpuppets (corporeal demons) and among atheists, who now realize
> > that noone has yet to curse LORD Almighty GOD as satan has been cursed
> > and lived long enough to post such a curse here on usenet.
>
> Ah, those were the days, eh? People cursing god with increasing
> imaganition, thoroughness, and creativity -- and you scrambling futiley
> to somehow spin it they hadn't REALLY cursed god, in spite of all
> that they plainly wrote.
>
> You were so dang cute when they backed you into a corner
> like that.
Your having lost your enthusiasm for providing links to posts archived
in Google that you believe support your claims simply shows that you
know atheism is dead. May you wisely choose to not go down with it by
attempting to be the first to successfully curse LORD Almighty GOD and
live long enough to post your curse on usenet. Bob Pastorio tried but
obviously was not successful. My continued condolences to his
surviving friends and family.
tr...@is-best.com
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f61ea3b1ca51ced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, you have been rebuked in Jesus' awesome name.
> > > >
> > > > And again, it has zero effect
> > >
> > > Neither for the discerning nor for you.
> > >
> > > If there had been zero effect, you would not have been compelled by
> > > GOD to unwittingly draw attention to the fact that there has been an
> > > effect just as Jesus rebuking the Sea of Galilee brought about calm so
> > > has rebuking satan, in Jesus' name, brought about a calm among satan's
> > > sockpuppets (corporeal demons) and among atheists, who now realize
> > > that noone has yet to curse LORD Almighty GOD as satan has been cursed
> > > and lived long enough to post such a curse here on usenet.
> >
> > Ah, those were the days, eh? People cursing god with increasing
> > imaganition, thoroughness, and creativity -- and you scrambling futiley
> > to somehow spin it they hadn't REALLY cursed god, in spite of all
> > that they plainly wrote.
> >
> > You were so dang cute when they backed you into a corner
> > like that.
>
> Your having lost your enthusiasm for providing links to posts archived
> in Google
Sure, not a problem. Do kindly note the phrase "I curse your God
and everything He stands for", followed by your feeble attempt
to pretend that lestat didn't REALLY say that:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ada9d36abe3315d3?dmode=source
> that you believe support your claims simply shows that you
> know atheism is dead.
`bout as accurate as your "perception" that I am anorexic <munch munch munch>
> May you wisely choose to not go down with it by
> attempting to be the first to successfully curse LORD Almighty GOD and
> live long enough to post your curse on usenet. Bob Pastorio tried but
> obviously was not successful. My continued condolences to his
> surviving friends and family.
You really do delight in mocking the dead for your own delight, don't you Fred?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
>
> Sure, not a problem.
Your doing it from the outset has already passed showing the lack of
enthusiasm.
Water under the bridge...
Spilt milk.
> Do kindly note the phrase "I curse your God
> and everything He stands for", followed by your feeble attempt
> to pretend that lestat didn't REALLY say that:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ada9d36abe3315d3?dmode=source
Did not see a written curse then nor do I see one now.
> > that you believe support your claims simply shows that you
> > know atheism is dead.
>
> `bout as accurate as your "perception" that I am anorexic <munch munch munch>
Lack of hunger is by definition anorexia.
> > May you wisely choose to not go down with it by
> > attempting to be the first to successfully curse LORD Almighty GOD and
> > live long enough to post your curse on usenet. Bob Pastorio tried but
> > obviously was not successful. My continued condolences to his
> > surviving friends and family.
>
> You really do delight in mocking the dead for your own delight, don't you Fred?
Your perserveration and memory loss does not bode well for your brain
function. Would suggest you inform your doctor about your cognitive
difficulties. Your anorexia and tinnitus could be explained by a brain
tumor (ie GBM).
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/press.asp
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f61ea3b1ca51ced?
Again, you have been rebuked in Jesus' awesome name.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cary Kittrell
Would suggest you inform your exorcist about your inability to
see lestat's phrase "I curse your God" when it is on the screen
on front of you.
-- cary
THE END OF RELIGION IS NIGH!
"Cary Kittrell" <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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WHILE HE WAS HANGING ON THAT PEICE OF WOOD.
YET HERE I LIVE AND BREATH.
IMAGINE THAT!
IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITYS...
andy says hunger is good-cuz he cant afford a happy meal.
go shop in the dumpster.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
In Jesus' name, I have been guided by the Holy Spirit to curse and
rebuke satan.
Here is the curse for all to see:
"May the suffering and pain that your lies have caused those
afflicted
with type-2 diabetes return to you infinitely amplified when you,
satan, are thrown into that lake of fire that awaits you.
In the magnificent name of LORD Jesus Christ, I curse and rebuke you
yet again."
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9b56ecc9fdf497d9?
The above is a real written curse. As soon as Bob Pastorio made the
unwise choice to try to curse LORD Almighty GOD, he was struck down as
you would be struck down and as others (eg Sigmund Freud) have been
struck down. My continued condolences to surviving friends and
family.
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/press.asp
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Steve O
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Steve O wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6f61ea3b1ca51ced?
> >>
> >> These posts just get stupidier and stupier all the time.
> >
> > Such is the written discourse that happens with those who lack the
> > wisdom and knowledge that comes only from GOD.
> >
> > This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
> > you:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
The Holy Spirit is GOD.
HE is omniscient.
Because HE knows everything about you, there is only the sentencing
phase that remains.
"The wages of sin is death." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/press.asp
THE END OF RELIGION IS NIGH!
"Steve O" <no...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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andy-you need mental help-seek it.