Re: Food Cures Diabetes?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
ironjustice wrote:
> http://www.pcos.20m.com/lecithin.html
>
> Lecithin contains d-chiro inositol,
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Public release date: 8-Jul-2007
>
> Contact: Hannah Cole
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> 44-020-759-81588
> Society of Chemical Industry
>
> Pumpkin: A fairytale end to insulin injections?
> Compounds found in pumpkin could potentially replace or at least
> drastically reduce the daily insulin injections that so many diabetics
> currently have to endure. Recent research reveals that pumpkin extract
> promotes regeneration of damaged pancreatic cells in diabetic rats,
> boosting levels of insulin-producing beta cells and insulin in the
> blood, reports Lisa Richards in Chemistry & Industry, the magazine of
> the SCI.
>
> A group, led by Tao Xia of the East China Normal University, found
> that diabetic rats fed the extract had only 5% less plasma insulin and
> 8% fewer insulin-positive (beta) cells compared to normal healthy rats
> (Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture, 87(9) 1753-7 2007).
>
> Xia says: 'pumpkin extract is potentially a very good product for pre-
> diabetic persons, as well as those who have already developed
> diabetes.' He adds that although insulin injections will probably
> always be necessary for these patients, pumpkin extract could
> drastically reduce the amount of insulin they need to take.
>
> David Bender, sub-dean at the Royal Free and University College
> Medical School, London, says: 'this research is very exciting... the
> main finding is that feeding pumpkin extract prevents the progressive
> destruction of pancreatic beta-cells... but it is impossible to say
> whether pumpkin extract would promote regeneration in humans.' He
> added: 'I think the exciting thing is that this may be a source of a
> medication that could be taken by mouth.'
>
> The protective effect of pumpkin is thought to be due to both
> antioxidants and D-chiro-inositol, a molecule that mediates insulin
> activity. Boosting insulin levels has the effect of lowering blood
> sugar levels, which reduces levels of oxidative oxygen species that
> damage beta-cell membranes, preventing further damage and allowing for
> some regeneration. Beta cells levels in the diabetic rats are,
> however, unlikely ever to reach that of controls, because some of the
> cells will have been damaged beyond repair.
>
> Diabetes affects more than 230m people, almost 6% of the world's adult
> population, according to the World Diabetes Foundation. The rats used
> in this study represent type I diabetes, but the researchers believe
> the pumpkin extract may also play a role in type II diabetes.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.nzp.co.nz/products.php?cid=3&pid=18
>
> Description
>
>
> D-chiro-Inositol is a white powder. It is found throughout many living
> systems but commonly in legumes, beans and other plants in a
> monomethylated or glycosylated form. It is also found in more complex
> structures in micro-organisms.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Tom
>
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
> http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!
> http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
@there Vernono O
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:1184026561.3...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> No.
>
> However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
> the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
Absolutely, especially sugars and carbs.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > No.
> >
> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
>
> Absolutely,
Truthfully.
> especially sugars and carbs.
Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board rather
than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
It is the world's great lie that compells folks to do the latter:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease.
Andy is Evil
Sock Notice: heartdoc17 in use. Sockpuppets 9 thru 16 and "andrew" on
standby.
> Vernono O wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > No.
>> >
>> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
>> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
>>
>> Absolutely,
>
> Truthfully.
>
>> especially sugars and carbs.
>
> Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board rather
> than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
>
> It is the world's great lie that compells folks to do the latter:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/PwessWewease.
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Are you saying that a person can eat up to two lbs of food a say, it
being mostly refined carbs and he will be healthy?
@there Vernono O
> Vernono O wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > No.
>> >
>> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
>> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
>>
>> Absolutely,
>
> Truthfully.
>
>> especially sugars and carbs.
>
> Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board rather
> than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
In the U.S and most of the western world sugars and starches. Maintaining
the same percentage ONLY results in yo yo dieting. (deadly)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Vernono O wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > No.
> >> >
> >> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
> >> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
> >>
> >> Absolutely,
> >
> > Truthfully.
> >
> >> especially sugars and carbs.
> >
> > Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board rather
> > than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
>
> In the U.S and most of the western world sugars and starches. Maintaining
> the same percentage ONLY results in yo yo dieting. (deadly)
Not for those who learn to "Be Hungry:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.
The Rev Dr Hugh Jarse NLAHN
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in messagenews:1184051075.4...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Vernono O wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> > No.
>
> >> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
> >> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
>
> >> Absolutely,
>
> > Truthfully.
>
> >> especially sugars and carbs.
>
> > Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board rather
> > than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
>
> In the U.S and most of the western world sugars and starches. Maintaining
> the same percentage ONLY results in yo yo dieting. (deadly)
>
>
You do realise, don't you, that in Andrew B Chung, you are dealing
with a well known whacko?
@there Vernono O
> Vernono O wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Vernono O wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > No.
>> >> >
>> >> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
>> >> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely,
>> >
>> > Truthfully.
>> >
>> >> especially sugars and carbs.
>> >
>> > Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board rather
>> > than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
>>
>> In the U.S and most of the western world sugars and starches.
>> Maintaining
>> the same percentage ONLY results in yo yo dieting. (deadly)
>
> Not for those who learn to "Be Hungry:"
>
RESULTS
YO-YO
No-one learns to be hungry
BTW sugar or starches are NOT "an essential macronutrient".
History alone illustrates the negative effect of sugar on cardiac health.
ANYONE who has EVER studied cardiology and diet knows that as a basic.
@there Vernono O
"The Rev Dr Hugh Jarse NLAHN" <hugh....@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1184097092.8...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Yep, read my response to him. He's fun as with many whackos.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Vernono O wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > Vernono O wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > No.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby losing
> >> >> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Absolutely,
> >> >
> >> > Truthfully.
> >> >
> >> >> especially sugars and carbs.
> >> >
> >> > Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board rather
> >> > than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
> >>
> >> In the U.S and most of the western world sugars and starches.
> >> Maintaining
> >> the same percentage ONLY results in yo yo dieting. (deadly)
> >
> > Not for those who learn to "Be Hungry:"
> >
>
> RESULTS
> YO-YO
No.
> No-one learns to be hungry
Incorrect.
Many have.
> BTW sugar or starches are NOT "an essential macronutrient".
Carbohydrates are an essential macronutrient along with protein and
fat.
> History alone illustrates the negative effect of sugar on cardiac health.
Did not write that sugar is an essential macronutrient.
> ANYONE who has EVER studied cardiology and diet knows that as a basic.
Those who believe they can survive on a zero-carb diet are certainly
welcome to ask either their doctor(s) or their dietician(s) whether
such a diet would be advisable.
It is unlikely you will ever find one that will agree with you.
Truth is simple.
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.
@there Vernono O
Yes, in central Africa and inner cities.
Man you are simple.
>
>> BTW sugar or starches are NOT "an essential macronutrient".
>
> Carbohydrates are an essential macronutrient along with protein and
> fat.
Don't change the context. A healthy diet results in plenty of carbs with
adding carbs.
>
>> History alone illustrates the negative effect of sugar on cardiac health.
>
> Did not write that sugar is an essential macronutrient.
I said sugar and carbs. You made the comment regarding that statement oh
simple one.
>
>> ANYONE who has EVER studied cardiology and diet knows that as a basic.
>
> Those who believe they can survive on a zero-carb diet are certainly
> welcome to ask either their doctor(s) or their dietician(s) whether
> such a diet would be advisable.
No one said zero carb, liar.
It is a virtual impossibility anyway.
>
> It is unlikely you will ever find one that will agree with you.
I work with a group of REAL doctors who agree with me. Four of them are
REAL cardiolgists, two are heads of medical practice at huge hospitals.
>
> Truth is simple.
Then why do you go out of your way to lie through misrepresentation and
deception?
>
> May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
> than ever.
I am very seldom hungry and I am at what several REAL Doctors have staed as
a perfect weight for me.
AND God has blessed me beyond most people's comprehension.
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Jesus doesn't (didn't) bear false witness.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > No.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby
> >> >> >> > losing
> >> >> >> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Absolutely,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Truthfully.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> especially sugars and carbs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board rather
> >> >> > than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the U.S and most of the western world sugars and starches.
> >> >> Maintaining
> >> >> the same percentage ONLY results in yo yo dieting. (deadly)
> >> >
> >> > Not for those who learn to "Be Hungry:"
> >> >
> >> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
> >>
> >> RESULTS
> >> YO-YO
> >
> > No.
> >
> >> No-one learns to be hungry
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > Many have.
>
> Yes, in central Africa and inner cities.
Incorrect.
Starving people do not learn to be hungry because they are not hungry.
> Man you are simple.
Truth is simple.
> >> BTW sugar or starches are NOT "an essential macronutrient".
> >
> > Carbohydrates are an essential macronutrient along with protein and
> > fat.
>
> Don't change the context.
Have not.
> A healthy diet results in plenty of carbs with adding carbs.
You are incoherent here.
> >> History alone illustrates the negative effect of sugar on cardiac health.
> >
> > Did not write that sugar is an essential macronutrient.
>
> I said sugar and carbs.
Actually, you wrote sugars and starches, which are carbs.
Bottomline:
You are untruthful.
> You made the comment regarding that statement oh simple one.
Your being untruthful remains an observation.
> >> ANYONE who has EVER studied cardiology and diet knows that as a basic.
> >
> > Those who believe they can survive on a zero-carb diet are certainly
> > welcome to ask either their doctor(s) or their dietician(s) whether
> > such a diet would be advisable.
>
> No one said zero carb, liar.
Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> It is a virtual impossibility anyway.
A Crisco-shortening-only diet would be a zero carbohydrate diet.
> > It is unlikely you will ever find one that will agree with you.
>
> I work with a group of REAL doctors who agree with me.
If those doctors agree with you here, it is unlikely they are real.
> Four of them are
> REAL cardiolgists, two are heads of medical practice at huge hospitals.
Without a real name here, you do not have real credibility here.
> >
> > Truth is simple.
>
> Then why do you go out of your way to lie through misrepresentation and
> deception?
It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
> >
> > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
> > than ever.
>
> I am very seldom hungry and I am at what several REAL Doctors have staed as
> a perfect weight for me.
If you are seldom hungry, you are not healthy.
> AND God has blessed me beyond most people's comprehension.
That is not what I discern.
> >
> > Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Jesus doesn't (didn't) bear false witness.
Correct.
Neither does HIS brethren.
Yet you do:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8135738c323dfcbf?
Therefore you are not HIS brethren.
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...
... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May you wisely choose to be forgiven by GOD to by declaring publicly
with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
@there Vernono O
> neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> > neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > No.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > However, eating less food, down to the optimal amount thereby
>> >> >> >> > losing
>> >> >> >> > the VAT does cure MetS and possibly even type-2 diabetes.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Absolutely,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Truthfully.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> especially sugars and carbs.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Wiser to make the reduction in food intake across the board
>> >> >> > rather
>> >> >> > than singling out an essential macronutritient for reduction.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In the U.S and most of the western world sugars and starches.
>> >> >> Maintaining
>> >> >> the same percentage ONLY results in yo yo dieting. (deadly)
>> >> >
>> >> > Not for those who learn to "Be Hungry:"
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> YO-YO
>> >
>> > No.
>> >
>> >> No-one learns to be hungry
>> >
>> > Incorrect.
>> >
>> > Many have.
>>
>> Yes, in central Africa and inner cities.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> Starving people do not learn to be hungry because they are not hungry.
>
>> Man you are simple.
>
> Truth is simple.
>
>> >> BTW sugar or starches are NOT "an essential macronutrient".
>> >
>> > Carbohydrates are an essential macronutrient along with protein and
>> > fat.
>>
>> Don't change the context.
>
> Have not.
>
>> A healthy diet results in plenty of carbs with adding carbs.
>
> You are incoherent here.
Almost all good foods contain carbs.
Without eating any breads or cerials or sugars or potatoes a good diet ends
up providing about 40% of calories in carbs.
DUUUHHHH
Why are you here except to mislead and pretend?
>
>> >> History alone illustrates the negative effect of sugar on cardiac
>> >> health.
>> >
>> > Did not write that sugar is an essential macronutrient.
>>
>> I said sugar and carbs.
>
> Actually, you wrote sugars and starches, which are carbs.
Yes poor carbs.
>
> Bottomline:
>
> You are untruthful.
>
>> You made the comment regarding that statement oh simple one.
>
> Your being untruthful remains an observation.
>
>> >> ANYONE who has EVER studied cardiology and diet knows that as a basic.
>> >
>> > Those who believe they can survive on a zero-carb diet are certainly
>> > welcome to ask either their doctor(s) or their dietician(s) whether
>> > such a diet would be advisable.
>>
>> No one said zero carb, liar.
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
>
Not "name" calling. Jesus and ALL apostles called out "liars"
>
>> It is a virtual impossibility anyway.
>
> A Crisco-shortening-only diet would be a zero carbohydrate diet.
And NO ONE mentioned such a diet. STILL virtually impossible. Try a diet
of Crisco shortening.
>
>> > It is unlikely you will ever find one that will agree with you.
>>
>> I work with a group of REAL doctors who agree with me.
>
> If those doctors agree with you here, it is unlikely they are real.
>
>> Four of them are
>> REAL cardiolgists, two are heads of medical practice at huge hospitals.
>
> Without a real name here, you do not have real credibility here.
Your idiotic logic and lies are credible reasons to know that you are fake.
All I have stated is balanced diet with restricted sugars and starches.
A balanced diet with ZERO sugars and starches ends up with about 40% carbs
and there is no need for further carbs. There is also no need to go hungry
or learn to go hungry.
Oh, even though he is not in my group, you should look up and study what Dr.
Sinatra has to say. If you don't know who he is, you are REALLY are out of
touch.
>
>> >
>> > Truth is simple.
>>
>> Then why do you go out of your way to lie through misrepresentation and
>> deception?
>
> It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
Try it then.
EVERYTHING you have written thus far is misrepresentation and deception.
>
>> >
>> > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
>> > than ever.
>>
>> I am very seldom hungry and I am at what several REAL Doctors have staed
>> as
>> a perfect weight for me.
>
> If you are seldom hungry, you are not healthy.
Well I am usually hungry before I sit down to eat.
BUT
That is not what you were inferring. You are so used to lying that it is
endemic.
>
>> AND God has blessed me beyond most people's comprehension.
>
> That is not what I discern.
>
>> >
>> > Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>>
>> Jesus doesn't (didn't) bear false witness.
>
> Correct.
>
> Neither does HIS brethren.
>
Discernment leads me to believe that you do not know and never have known
Christ, so quit with the jabber.
Szczepan Białek
"Vernono O"
>
> BTW sugar or starches are NOT "an essential macronutrient".
> History alone illustrates the negative effect of sugar on cardiac health.
> ANYONE who has EVER studied cardiology and diet knows that as a basic.
I am not an expert. But I know that we can eat animal products, "plants"
with animal starch and sugar (contained in plants). We can not eat starches
and cellulose. The natural source of energy should be fat, but it can be
substituted by the sugar. It is time do not use term "carbs" but sugar, raw
starch and cooked starch. Which of them have the negative effect?
S*
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Now you are more coherent.
> Without eating any breads or cerials or sugars or potatoes a good diet ends
> up providing about 40% of calories in carbs.
Glad to see that you are specifying that a diet has to include more
than a third of calories in the form of carbohydrates in order for it
to be considered good.
> DUUUHHHH
Now you are back to being less coherent.
> Why are you here except to mislead and pretend?
GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either mislead
or pretend as you seem to be compelled to do.
> >> >> History alone illustrates the negative effect of sugar on cardiac
> >> >> health.
> >> >
> >> > Did not write that sugar is an essential macronutrient.
> >>
> >> I said sugar and carbs.
> >
> > Actually, you wrote sugars and starches, which are carbs.
>
> Yes poor carbs.
No such thing from the perspective of the cell, which only sees the
glucose.
> > Bottomline:
> >
> > You are untruthful.
> >
> >> You made the comment regarding that statement oh simple one.
> >
> > Your being untruthful remains an observation.
> >
> >> >> ANYONE who has EVER studied cardiology and diet knows that as a basic.
> >> >
> >> > Those who believe they can survive on a zero-carb diet are certainly
> >> > welcome to ask either their doctor(s) or their dietician(s) whether
> >> > such a diet would be advisable.
> >>
> >> No one said zero carb, liar.
> >
> > Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
>
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
>
> Not "name" calling.
In your case, with your being untruthful, it is.
> Jesus and ALL apostles called out "liars"
They are truthful. You are not.
> >
> >> It is a virtual impossibility anyway.
> >
> > A Crisco-shortening-only diet would be a zero carbohydrate diet.
>
> And NO ONE mentioned such a diet.
Just did it (see above) to show it was not impossible.
> STILL virtually impossible. Try a diet of Crisco shortening.
Did not claim that such a diet would be tolerated.
> >> > It is unlikely you will ever find one that will agree with you.
> >>
> >> I work with a group of REAL doctors who agree with me.
> >
> > If those doctors agree with you here, it is unlikely they are real.
> >
> >> Four of them are
> >> REAL cardiolgists, two are heads of medical practice at huge hospitals.
> >
> > Without a real name here, you do not have real credibility here.
>
> Your idiotic logic and lies are credible reasons to know that you are fake.
It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while your choice
is to libel.
There has been another before you but GOD has slain him:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/libel.asp
> All I have stated is balanced diet with restricted sugars and starches.
> A balanced diet with ZERO sugars and starches ends up with about 40% carbs
> and there is no need for further carbs.
Carbohydrates are automatically either simple sugars (either mono or
disaccharides) or starches (polysaccharides).
You would have known this had you not been a pretender.
> There is also no need to go hungry or learn to go hungry.
There is a need to overcome the world's great lie that "hunger is
bad:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
> Oh, even though he is not in my group, you should look up and study what Dr.
> Sinatra has to say. If you don't know who he is, you are REALLY are out of
> touch.
Without the LORD, your beliefs and opinions are meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).
> >> >
> >> > Truth is simple.
> >>
> >> Then why do you go out of your way to lie through misrepresentation and
> >> deception?
> >
> > It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
>
> Try it then.
What is already done need not be redone.
> EVERYTHING you have written thus far is misrepresentation and deception.
You remain consistently untruthful...
... and wrong.
This is understandable because you are without the Source of all
righteousness, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.
> >> > May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
> >> > than ever.
> >>
> >> I am very seldom hungry and I am at what several REAL Doctors have staed
> >> as
> >> a perfect weight for me.
> >
> > If you are seldom hungry, you are not healthy.
>
> Well I am usually hungry before I sit down to eat.
That is reassuring.
> BUT That is not what you were inferring.
"Very seldom hungry" are your words and not mine.
> You are so used to lying that it is endemic.
It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.
One of us is untruthful.
Using logic, most folks should be able to easily figure out who is
untruthful by simply starting out by noting who is anonymous.
> >> AND God has blessed me beyond most people's comprehension.
> >
> > That is not what I discern.
> >
> >> >
> >> > Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
> >>
> >> Jesus doesn't (didn't) bear false witness.
> >
> > Correct.
> >
> > Neither does HIS brethren.
> >
> > Yet you do:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8135738c323dfcbf?
> >
> > Therefore you are not HIS brethren.
> >
> > The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
> > special...
> >
> > ... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
> >
> > http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
> >
> > May you wisely choose to be forgiven by GOD too by declaring publicly
> > with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> >
> > Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
>
> Discernment leads me to believe that you do not know and never have known
> Christ, so quit with the jabber.
If your heart had been made discerning by the Holy Spirit, HE would
not have convicted you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
@there Vernono O
"Szczepan Białek" <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote in message
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If it (carbs) isn't inherent in a food that contains many or at least a few
other nutrients such ac vitamins, minerals, fats, it's the "beginning" of a
bad diet. If one has a tendency for diabetes or overweight, it's a no-no.
Sugar is not a substitute for fats except as pure calories.
Archie Leach
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com>
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[...]
neighbor Vernono O wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > neighbor Vernono O wrote:
> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > neighbor Vernono O wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> > neighbor Vernono O wrote:
> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >>
But now........
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>convicted neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > convicted neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > convicted neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> >> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> > convicted neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> >> > convicted neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
*sigh* Its fruitcakeyness speaks for itself.
[...]
>> >
>> >> Four of them are
>> >> REAL cardiolgists, two are heads of medical practice at huge hospitals.
>> >
>> > Without a real name here, you do not have real credibility here.
>>
>> Your idiotic logic and lies are credible reasons to know that you are fake.
>
>It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while your choice
>is to libel.
>
>There has been another before you but GOD has slain him:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/libel.asp
>
Dance on his grave, Chungfraud. Dance all over his grave.
flyingrat
says...
> Dance on his grave, Chungfraud. Dance all over his grave.
>
here's why Chung is dancing on Bob's grave, and has been for months
now.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d5d5097f3e03f7
1a?dmode=source&hl=en
from that post:
"Funny thing about that. No reason why they should admit it. Chung was
fired for giving substandard medical care. An arbitrator upheld the
firing. He was out of there in less than 3 months. If Chung's story were
true, he'd at least have had grounds for a suit himself. Ooops. No suit.
Canned. Out the door. Bad doctoring."
(Bob Pastorio)
Bob showed up Chung the Demonic for being what he is, a twelve week
wonder who fled the State of Florida. Some cardiologist and Christian
isn't he?
Now Bob is dead, Chung shrieks and howls and spams Bob's web journal.
Just like a good little ghoul who wants his revenge.
@there Vernono O
>
>> Oh, even though he is not in my group, you should look up and study what
>> Dr.
>> Sinatra has to say. If you don't know who he is, you are REALLY are out
>> of
>> touch.
>
> Without the LORD, your beliefs and opinions are meaningless
> (Ecclesiastes).
>
So you know neither Sinatra or the Lord.
If you don't know who he is, you are REALLY are out of touch.
As a claimed cardiologist you are ignorant of one of the prime movers.
As a claimed Christian you miss-state truths (lie)
You are a disgrace to the profession and God.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> As a claimed cardiologist you are ignorant of one of the prime movers.
As one who claims to be working with cardiologists, you seem unable to
recognize their peer.
> As a claimed Christian you miss-state truths (lie)
It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
It is sad to note that you have been unable to write similarly.
> You are a disgrace to the profession and God.
Without the LORD, your opinion remains meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
oscar
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist
>
A fake Christian and a fake Doctor, making both look bad.
oscar
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist
>
A disgrace to the medical profession and to Christians everywhere.
oscar
> convicted neighbor Vernono O wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6b4185fbd6fe02a0?
>
>> <snip>
>>
>> As a claimed cardiologist you are ignorant of one of the prime movers.
>
> As one who claims to be working with cardiologists, you seem unable to
> recognize their peer.
>
>> As a claimed Christian you miss-state truths (lie)
>
> It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.
>
A choice you refuse to take.