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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2008, 12:28:31 AM5/19/08
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GysdeJongh wrote:
> http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/
>
> Saturday, May 17, 2008
> American Diabetes Association
>
> These are actual quotes from the American Diabetes Association website:
>
> Myth #5: If you have diabetes, you should only eat small amounts of starchy
> foods, such as bread, potatoes and pasta.
> Starchy foods are part of a healthy meal plan. What is important is the
> portion size. Whole grain breads, cereals, pasta, rice and starchy
> vegetables like potatoes, yams, peas and corn can be included in your meals
> and snacks. The key is portions. For most people with diabetes, having 3-4
> servings of carbohydrate-containing foods is about right. Whole grain
> starchy foods are also a good source of fiber, which helps keep your gut
> healthy.You decide to swap two slices of bread for two slices of low-calorie
> bread and have the cookies -- it's an even trade. Your total amount of
> carbohydrate remains the same for the meal.
>
> My point? As I often say, while the "official" organizations like the
> American Diabetes Association, the American heart Association, and the USDA
> dominate the message provided to mainstream Americans, to those of us who
> know better, they have become irrelevant. You can see how obviously
> boneheaded their advice is. I'd go so far as to say that, if you want
> diabetes, follow the American Diabetes Association diet. If you have
> diabetes, and you'd like to accelerate complications like kidney disease,
> heart disease, and neuropathy, then follow the American Diabetes Association
> diet.
>
> I'm going to bet that American Diabetes Association sponsors like Lilly,
> Novo Nordisk, Merck, Pfizer, Abbott ($1 million or more annual
> contributions) and Cadbury Schweppes (3-year, multi-million dollar support
> for Weight Loss Matters program) will continue to charge full-speed ahead to
> maintain the status quo.
>
> And if you gain, say, 30 or 40 lbs eating these foods. . . well, we've got a
> treatment for that. Merck's Januvia , for instance, can help you out for
> only about $200 a month!
>
> Looking at the facts this way, and it seems like some cheap conspiracy
> theory: They're all out to get us. Dispense information that virtually
> guarantees propagation of the disease, and all your friends and cronies
> profit. I don't know if it is or it isn't, but it sure smells like it
> sometimes.
>
> Dr. William Davis,Cardiologist and author of the book, Track Your Plaque
>
> No comment
> Gys

Smarter to simple eat less, down to the right amount.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic...

Prayerfully in the awesome name of LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

Uncle Frederik

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May 19, 2008, 3:03:15 AM5/19/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD formulated on Monday :

What's this "right amount" you keep beating on about everyday? Does
this "right amount" vary from person to person?

Thanks.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2008, 6:21:29 AM5/19/08
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

An omer.

May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given oportunity as GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Uncle Frederik

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May 19, 2008, 6:29:57 AM5/19/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD presented the following explanation :

>>> Smarter to simple eat less, down to the right amount.
>>
>> What's this "right amount" you keep beating on about everyday?
>
> An omer.

Thank you for your answer re: "right amount".

Well.. does this "right amount" vary from person to person? What
considerations do you take to determine this right amount?

Thanks.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2008, 6:32:38 AM5/19/08
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >>> Smarter to simple eat less, down to the right amount.
> >>
> >> What's this "right amount" you keep beating on about everyday?
> >
> > An omer.
>
> Thank you for your answer re: "right amount".

Laus Deo !

> Well.. does this "right amount" vary from person to person?

It does not vary from one adult to another adult human.

> What
> considerations do you take to determine this right amount?

It is pre-determined by GOD's design.

> Thanks.

Laus Deo !

May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-

given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier...

Uncle Frederik

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May 19, 2008, 6:40:15 AM5/19/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD explained about 2PD diet on 19/05/2008 :

>> Well.. does this "right amount" vary from person to person?
>
> It does not vary from one adult to another adult human.

But every adult has different requirements.

>> What
>> considerations do you take to determine this right amount?
>
> It is pre-determined by GOD's design.

> Laus Deo !

So your diet does not take requirements of individuals into
consideration?


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2008, 6:48:36 AM5/19/08
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> Well.. does this "right amount" vary from person to person?
> >
> > It does not vary from one adult to another adult human.
>
> But every adult has different requirements.

Those requirements are not known to man but are known to GOD.

By GOD, those requirements are met at the intestinal brush border and
not at the mouth, by us,

> >> What
> >> considerations do you take to determine this right amount?
> >
> > It is pre-determined by GOD's design.
> >
> > Laus Deo !
>
> So your diet does not take requirements of individuals into
> consideration?

The exact nutritional requirements of individuals at any given instant
in time is not knowable by us.

It is GOD, Who knows what is unknowable by us.

The 2PD-OMER Approach honors and glorifies GOD's omniscience.

This is why it continues to always work because the 2PD-OMER Approach
is inspired by the Holy Spirit and is in accordance with GOD's will.

Uncle Frederik

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May 19, 2008, 7:22:28 AM5/19/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD explains why the "right amount" is an "omer" :

>>>> Well.. does this "right amount" vary from person to person?
>>>
>>> It does not vary from one adult to another adult human.

In other words an athelete and someone who is terminally ill have to
eat the same amount?

>> But every adult has different requirements.
>
> Those requirements are not known to man but are known to GOD.

If they are known to GOD then why are you saying it is an omer? Is it
your interpretation, or what?

> By GOD, those requirements are met at the intestinal brush border and
> not at the mouth, by us,
>
>>>> What
>>>> considerations do you take to determine this right amount?
>>>
>>> It is pre-determined by GOD's design.

How come only you have have heard that omer is the pre-determined right
amount? Why have other followers of god not heard the same thing?

>> So your diet does not take requirements of individuals into
>> consideration?
>
> The exact nutritional requirements of individuals at any given instant
> in time is not knowable by us.

But you have stated that an "omer" is the "right amount" per 24 hours.

> It is GOD, Who knows what is unknowable by us.

How did you learn that the "omer" was the right amount then? Who told
you this?


Don Kirkman

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May 19, 2008, 5:55:42 PM5/19/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article
<97181879-c901-4db6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:

>satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

>Uncle Frederik asked

>> What's this "right amount" you keep beating on about everyday?

>An omer.

And where may one buy an omer measuring basket so he doesn't exceed the three or
four quarts in an omer?

Perhaps we need to use an indirect measure? "The Omer, is an ancient Israelite
unit of measure used in the era of the Temple in Jerusalem. It is used in the
Bible as an ancient unit of volume for grains and dry commodities, and the Torah
mentions as being equal to one tenth of an Ephah[1]. The Ephah was defined as
being 72 Logs, and the Log was equal to the Sumerian Mina, which was itself
defined as 1 sixtieth of a Maris[2]; the Omer was thus equal to about 12
hundreths of a Maris. The Maris was defined as being the quantity of water equal
in weight to a light royal Talent[3], and was thus equal to about 30.3
litres[4], making the Omer equal to about 3.64 litres."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omer_(Bible)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 19, 2008, 11:00:22 PM5/19/08
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convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
> >> What's this "right amount" you keep beating on about everyday?
>
> >An omer.
>
> And where may one buy an omer measuring basket so he doesn't exceed the three or
> four quarts in an omer?

"An omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (referring to a
Spirit-guided exegesis of Exodus 16:36)

Amen.

Original Spirit-guided exegesis of Exodus 16:36...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/751f4b6cc7bea1d2?

Suggested additional reading:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5dd1010e2309c66e?

May we, who are Christians, continue to pray for your perishing soul,
dear Don:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/134aca053227804c?

Uncle Frederik

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May 20, 2008, 7:32:33 AM5/20/08
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It happens that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD quoted the HS :


> "An omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit

The voice in your head is not a credible source to be quoting, I'm
afraid. You'll have to do better thant that


Cary Kittrell

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May 20, 2008, 5:26:42 PM5/20/08
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In article <dc52bf18-fcca-4280...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> writes:
> convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> >
> > >> What's this "right amount" you keep beating on about everyday?
> >
> > >An omer.
> >
> > And where may one buy an omer measuring basket so he doesn't exceed the three or
> > four quarts in an omer?
>
> "An omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (referring to a
> Spirit-guided exegesis of Exodus 16:36)
>
> Amen.

And can you point us to one single translator, Biblical
scholar, or historian of Judaism who has said this
same thing?

Or out of all this throng, are you the only one who is "spirit-guided"?


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 20, 2008, 6:55:02 PM5/20/08
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Cary Kittrell

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May 20, 2008, 7:46:00 PM5/20/08
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In article <1211323...@alibistextweb.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> writes:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/AttentionSeekingCary

Oh, and by the way, you forgot to answer my question:


> "An omer of manna weighs 2 pounds." -- Holy Spirit (referring to a
> Spirit-guided exegesis of Exodus 16:36)
>
> Amen.

And can you point us to one single translator, Biblical

Cary Kittrell

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May 20, 2008, 7:44:10 PM5/20/08
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In article <1211323...@alibistextweb.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> writes:

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/AttentionSeekingCary
>

Writes the man of dozens of net.addresses.

There ought to be a special word for irony that deep.


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 20, 2008, 7:53:19 PM5/20/08
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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e4dfd71c13c2c84?
>
> The voice in your head is not a credible source to be quoting...

There is no voice in my head.

> I'm afraid.

Without the LORD, there can only be fear/despair and no joy.

> You'll have to do better thant that

No, you will remain...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Doomedsatan

The Holy Spirit does not speak except that which HE hears.

In the Holy Spirit, Jesus' disciples simply know what HE desires them to know:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/KnowingHIM

May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow/Rebukesatan

<><

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...

.. by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

.. gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.. for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

Uncle Frederik

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May 21, 2008, 3:20:50 AM5/21/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD brought next idea :

>> The voice in your head is not a credible source to be quoting, I'm afraid.


>
> There is no voice in my head.

Most people with mental health issues say the same thing too - so I
cannot accept your response...

>> You'll have to do better thant that
>

> No....

Several folks have asked you where you've been pulling these quotes
from and you've not responded truthfully. Do you usually make things
up as you go? e.g. 2 pound diet?


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 21, 2008, 6:06:48 AM5/21/08
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convicted friend Chris Malcolm wrote:
> Johnnie McCoy <johnni...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:
> > Just for the hell of it, and to settle the question once and for all, what I
> > would really like to see is - a bunch of us eating from an ADA provided
> > menu - breakfast, lunch and dinner - for one day with 1 and 2 hour pp tests
> > after each meal. I don't mean "include this and that in each meal," but
> > rather specifically recommended meals. Then, post the results on a website.
>
> Can't you count the ways in which that would be disputable?

Without the weighing of the meals, your methodology will remain
unscientific.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic...

Marana tha

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