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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 4, 2007, 6:49:53 PM11/4/07
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friend Jim Chinnis wrote:
>
> I have now lost a few more pounds. I am at 145. I was at 188 in 2001 and had
> maintained around 165 from 2002 through early 2007. I was about 148 at age
> 18. (I'm now 63.)
>
> I thought I was "normal" weight at 160 or so. So did my friends. But I was
> on two blood pressure medications plus Lipitor and then tested my bg last
> April and discovered fbgs at around 116 and near-diabetic response to
> glucose/carbs.
>
> Having lost about 15 pounds now, my fbg is 80-86 every morning and my
> response to a moderately high-carb (35 g) breakfast is a 1-hr PP bg of about
> 100. It can still be elevated (100) at 2 hrs PP, but is back at 80-85 within
> 3 hrs..
>
> Part of the change (about 10 points) is due to dropping atenolol. But the
> bulk is due to the 15 pound drop in weight.
>
> I need to reduce the remaining bp drug, as my bp is getting on the low side.
> I may drop the Lipitor after my next blood lipids are taken.
>
> Just one data point having to do with the powerful weight effects (of those
> "last few pounds") on blood pressure, glucose, and lipids.

The key is losing all that harmful VAT, which is the source of all the
pro-inflammatory adipocytokines that were killing you.

This does happen with using the 2PD-OMER Approach.

Then the healing starts...

... and as new beta cells form from your stem cells --> cure (if you
don't believe in cure, then call it a miracle :-).

Healthier --> hungrier :-)

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

tr...@is-best.com

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Nov 4, 2007, 8:35:51 PM11/4/07
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Our armchair biologist opines:

Regarding a "cure" for diabetes:

"... and as new beta cells form from your stem cells --> cure (if you"

Complete rubbish, this does not happen in humans, in rodents yes, in
humans no.

Had he been keeping up on the research in this area, and there is a
great deal of it, he would know this.

The two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc., is trash science refuted in part and
in whole by the real science involved and presented to the poster many
times.

One can with complete peace of mind ignore the source.

God bless.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2007, 6:12:32 AM11/5/07
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someone masquerading as the truth wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5db68f2aba888d74?

>
> "... and as new beta cells form from your stem cells --> cure (if you"
>
> Complete rubbish, this does not happen in humans, in rodents yes, in
> humans no.

Wonder how many type-2 diabetics would choose to become a rodent in
order to be cured of their disease if they believed your lie that
rodents have more capacity for healing than humans.

Much wiser to simply choose to lose the harmful VAT by eating less,
down to the optimal amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/2PD-OMER

In the awesome name of LORD Jesus Christ, I publicly rebuke you before
a cloud of witnesses yet again.

tr...@is-best.com

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Nov 5, 2007, 10:15:17 AM11/5/07
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Our armchair biologist opines:

> "... and as new beta cells form from your stem cells --> cure (if you"
>
> Complete rubbish, this does not happen in humans, in rodents yes, in
> humans no.

"Wonder how many type-2 diabetics would choose to become a rodent in
order to be cured of their disease if they believed your lie that
rodents have more capacity for healing than humans."

Silly dissembling and strawman. Silly, these lateral lurches in
cognition reveal much more then you really want.

In humans beta cells in adulthood do not derive from stem cells. Had
you been keeping up on the literature and not inventing completely
unsupported and completely refuted silly notions you would know this.

The poster can with complete peace of mind be ignored as a credible
source in this area. He convicts himself by his own words and silly
displays of vain ignorance.

God bless.

Erica Nurney

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Nov 5, 2007, 11:50:14 AM11/5/07
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On 5 Nov, 11:12, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:


All your religious crap may be acceptable in the god-soaked USA, but
in the UK it just pisses us off.

Now kindly remove alt.support.diabetes.uk from your cross-sposting


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2007, 12:10:42 PM11/5/07
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neighbor Erica Nurney wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7ce03248b09fadad?

>
> All your religious crap may be acceptable in the god-soaked USA, but
> in the UK it just pisses us off.

It remains my choice to not be religious.

Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with the risen LORD
Jesus Christ.

> Now kindly remove alt.support.diabetes.uk from your cross-sposting

It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
everything I say, do, and write. At this time, HE continues to guide
me to be HIS uncovered lamp giving the light of the truth, Who is LORD
Jesus Christ, to everyone in the room.

Sorry my choice to remain openly Christian bothers you.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Robert Miles

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Nov 5, 2007, 12:17:11 PM11/5/07
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"Erica Nurney" <j_peasemold_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194281414....@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
It's not acceptable in the USA either, but he doesn't listen to requests
to stop cross-posting. It looks like he's trying to embarrass any
Christians in the newsgroups he posts to. If your newsreader has
a killfile function, it's probably better to use that, but be ready to do
it again and again as he frequently changes return addresses.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 5, 2007, 12:27:18 PM11/5/07
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neighbor Robert Miles wrote:

> neighbor "Erica Nurney" wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7ce03248b09fadad?

> >
> > All your religious crap may be acceptable in the god-soaked USA, but
> > in the UK it just pisses us off.
> >
> > Now kindly remove alt.support.diabetes.uk from your cross-sposting
> >
> It's not acceptable in the USA either

The USA remains a Christian nation...

... one nation under GOD:

http://InGODWeTrustUSA.com

http://TruthRUS.org

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

flyingrat

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Nov 5, 2007, 12:58:21 PM11/5/07
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In article <1194261152.3...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
hear...@emorycardiology.com says...

> In the awesome name of LORD Jesus Christ, I publicly rebuke you before
> a cloud of witnesses yet again.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration

Verbigeration
ver·big·er·a·tion
n.
Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a symptom of mental illness.

http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration

Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
schizophrenia.

flyingrat

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Nov 5, 2007, 1:04:27 PM11/5/07
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In article <1194282642.6...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
heart...@emorycardiology.com says...

> Sorry my choice to remain openly Christian bothers you.
>
>
you mean like openly, as in something others might be ashamed of?

Your Christianity is as phony as your medical practice. Just what do you
worship? Your reflection in the mirror?

When did you stop beating your wife? When she fled? Is that why the
police beat you like a rented mule?

Why won't you answer simple questions? Like what hospital do you have
admission priveliges at?

Where is the proof of the million dollar guarantee fund

Why, if you are supposed to be a Christian, do you not attend any
church?

Why did you lie about exorcising "Phillip" on Usenet and then contradict
yourself?

Why are you trying to defraud people of thirty dollars for a fake
charity, and making statements about tax that re a federal crime?

Evasions awaited as usual.

FR

Patsie Hatley

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Nov 5, 2007, 7:24:57 PM11/5/07
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I am living in the USA and this pisses me off also, who the heck is this guy
anyway??

"Erica Nurney" <j_peasemold_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Patsie Hatley

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Nov 5, 2007, 7:26:06 PM11/5/07
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This Doctor Chung sound rather dangerous to me,and I sure do not believe
hes a real doctor anyway.
"Robert Miles" <rober...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Archie Leach

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Nov 6, 2007, 12:35:05 AM11/6/07
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

>neighbor Robert Miles wrote:
>> neighbor "Erica Nurney" wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
>> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7ce03248b09fadad?
>> >
>> > All your religious crap may be acceptable in the god-soaked USA, but
>> > in the UK it just pisses us off.
>> >
>> > Now kindly remove alt.support.diabetes.uk from your cross-sposting
>> >
>> It's not acceptable in the USA either
>
>The USA remains a Christian nation...
>
>... one nation under GOD:
>
>http://InGODWeTrustUSA.com
>
>http://TruthRUS.org
>
>May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
>than ever:
>
>http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
>
>Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
>Andrew <><

So why then do you advocate your partner-in-insanity Phred Phelps's
picketing of soldiers fighting for this One Nation Under God, stating
that the soldiers are burning in hell??

Or, better yet, why are you too cowardly to rebuke Phelps's behavior
(even if continuing to advocate some portion of his Christian faith)??

I know the answer--because you're too cowardly to admit that sometimes
your position is incorrect, and that you're not nearly as much "In The
Holy Spirit" as you love to proclaim?


Nico

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Nov 6, 2007, 4:59:16 PM11/6/07
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On 5 Nov, 16:50, Erica Nurney <j_peasemold_gruntfutt...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Oh, it irritates the Americans, too.

coaster1robert

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Nov 6, 2007, 6:05:30 PM11/6/07
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I know you guy's forgot,usenet are news groups,with freedom of
speech,and DR. Chung,is a practicing Doctor out of Georgia,USA.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 6, 2007, 6:13:51 PM11/6/07
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friend coaster1robert wrote:

> folks offended by openly Christian behavior wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7ce03248b09fadad?
> >
> > <snip>

>
> I know you guy's forgot,usenet are news groups,with freedom of
> speech,and DR. Chung,is a practicing Doctor out of Georgia,USA.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

DonnaB shallotpeel

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Nov 6, 2007, 6:14:32 PM11/6/07
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In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:05:30 -0000 in Msg.#
<1194390330.0...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, coaster1robert
<coaster...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know you guy's forgot,usenet are news groups,with freedom of
> speech,and DR. Chung,is a practicing Doctor out of Georgia,USA.

Well, I didn't forget many things, including that Usenet is an international
medium & not every country has people who scream 'freedom of speech' when
there is no US 1st Amendment issue at stake!

I also didn't forget that 'guys' has no apostrophe in it unless we're
speaking of something that belongs to our guy, here in ASD.

A practicing netizen from Georgia, USA, ... DonnaB shallotpeel

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