Re: I fear the Lord more than the demon.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> I fear the Lord more than the demon.
The LORD is infinitely more powerful.
> I have to repent my sins before the Lord and walk every day with him.
Your sins have been forgiven.
> I made
> a big mistake by communicating with the demon in a very impolite way. The
> demon always responds logically but quickly changes his topic to the Lord.
If you choose to stay close to LORD Jesus Christ, the demon will stay
far from you.
> This demon always likes to address himself with many names such as Satan,
> Buddha, Demon, and Evil Spirit. The voices are demonic, full of lie, and
> shocking.
Again, reminds me of what we are witnessing here on usenet.
> To avoid being brainwashed by the demonic voices, I have to frequently
> change the voices in a timely manner to pleasent voices whenever the names
> of the Lord are called out by this demon.
Stay close to Christ Jesus in your walk with HIM and this demon will be
too far away for you to hear.
> Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I
> fail. This has already become my daily job.
The choice to stay close to Jesus has to be made daily.
The Apostle Paul has written that he had to die daily to self in doing
the LORD's work.
> I am very unfortunate to have encountered a demon that never fears of his
> evil words.
No such thing as either fortunate or unfortunate (Proverbs 16:33).
Demons thrive on evil words. They are slain by the Word of GOD and so
they fear HIM. If you choose to stay close to Jesus, the demon can not
harm you.
> Why me Lord? Teach me to take one day at a time. I am desperate
> to defeat this demon.
Without the LORD, neither you nor I have that power.
> The only way is through constant prayers, singing
> praise songs, listening to Gospel music, reading Words of God, and most
> importantly, obedient to God.
The only way is LORD Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
The victory is HIS.
To LORD GOD Almighty belongs all the thanks, praises, and glory.
> Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, never follow my footstep.
Correct. Follow LORD Jesus Christ, our Shepherd, instead.
> Demons are
> real and very difficult to deal with.
Without the LORD, they are impossible to deal with.
> You need the Lord to carry you when
> you encounter one.
Those who walk closely with Christ Jesus are protected by HIS armor.
Still praying on your behalf, dear Philip.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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> Philip wrote:
>
>> This demon always likes to address himself with many names such as Satan,
>> Buddha, Demon, and Evil Spirit. The voices are demonic, full of lie, and
>> shocking.
Schizophrenia symptoms.
> Again, reminds me of what we are witnessing here on usenet.
Possible schizophrenia symptoms, but more likely hysteria induced by
corrosive fundamental protestant culture.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:1149957678.9...@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Philip wrote:
>
> >> This demon always likes to address himself with many names such as Satan,
> >> Buddha, Demon, and Evil Spirit. The voices are demonic, full of lie, and
> >> shocking.
>
> Schizophrenia symptoms.
Actually, someone suffering from schizophrenia typically would not
recognize that s/he is psychotic.
> > Again, reminds me of what we are witnessing here on usenet.
>
> Possible schizophrenia symptoms, but more likely hysteria induced by
> corrosive fundamental protestant culture.
Being reminded of something is neither symptom nor hysteria.
To understand this, simply surf the link under my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Kurt.
Kurt Gavin
> Kurt Gavin wrote:
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149957678.9...@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> > Philip wrote:
>>
>> >> This demon always likes to address himself with many names such as
>> >> Satan,
>> >> Buddha, Demon, and Evil Spirit. The voices are demonic, full of lie,
>> >> and
>> >> shocking.
>>
>> Schizophrenia symptoms.
>
> Actually, someone suffering from schizophrenia typically would not
> recognize that s/he is psychotic.
Hey Einstein, this person doesn't either. He thinks what's going on in his
mind is due to demons.
Andrew, your mind is going.
>> > Again, reminds me of what we are witnessing here on usenet.
>>
>> Possible schizophrenia symptoms, but more likely hysteria induced by
>> corrosive fundamental protestant culture.
>
> Being reminded of something is neither symptom nor hysteria.
How would you know, being as far gone as you are?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:1149969999.5...@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Kurt Gavin wrote:
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1149957678.9...@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Philip wrote:
> >>
> >> >> This demon always likes to address himself with many names such as
> >> >> Satan,
> >> >> Buddha, Demon, and Evil Spirit. The voices are demonic, full of lie,
> >> >> and
> >> >> shocking.
> >>
> >> Schizophrenia symptoms.
> >
> > Actually, someone suffering from schizophrenia typically would not
> > recognize that s/he is psychotic.
>
> Hey Einstein, this person doesn't either. He thinks what's going on in his
> mind is due to demons.
Actually, Philip has been concerned that he may be suffering from
schizophrenia. This is evident about his mentioning this possibility
in one of his earlier posts. Also he has posted to one of the
schizophrenia support groups.
> Andrew, your mind is going.
Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> >> > Again, reminds me of what we are witnessing here on usenet.
> >>
> >> Possible schizophrenia symptoms, but more likely hysteria induced by
> >> corrosive fundamental protestant culture.
> >
> > Being reminded of something is neither symptom nor hysteria.
>
> How would you know, being as far gone as you are?
In my walk with Christ, the LORD has kept me completely well.
HE is the Great Physician afterall :-)
Al
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Did not attempt exorcism.
>> > >
Wanna bet, Chung? Here's EXACTLY what you said:
"In the infinitely powerful and holy name of LORD Jesus Christ, I
command you, demon, to come out and leave Philip before our LORD
personally destroys you. "
Chung caught in a boldfaced lie!
Al
Kurt Gavin
> Kurt Gavin wrote:
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149969999.5...@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> > Kurt Gavin wrote:
>> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1149957678.9...@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > Philip wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> This demon always likes to address himself with many names such as
>> >> >> Satan,
>> >> >> Buddha, Demon, and Evil Spirit. The voices are demonic, full of
>> >> >> lie,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> shocking.
>> >>
>> >> Schizophrenia symptoms.
>> >
>> > Actually, someone suffering from schizophrenia typically would not
>> > recognize that s/he is psychotic.
>>
>> Hey Einstein, this person doesn't either. He thinks what's going on in
>> his
>> mind is due to demons.
>
> Actually, Philip has been concerned that he may be suffering from
> schizophrenia. This is evident about his mentioning this possibility
> in one of his earlier posts. Also he has posted to one of the
> schizophrenia support groups.
If the statements in the original post that you attribute to him are
correct, then either on his own or with some shit-for-brain's help, he was
imagining himself beset by demons. There was no mention of him thinking he
was schizophrenic.
However, it is evident from what you have just said, that you are trying to
disuade him from thinking he is schizo, and thereby getting competent help,
into blaming it on demons.
You are an irresponsible destructive son-of-a-bitch who should be precluded
by the medical authorites from practicing medicine.
You are playing with this man's well being and possibly that of people
around him to satisfy your low grade christian fundamentalist fantasies.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Actually, in the original request for help to fight the demon, Philip
wrote that he has "no symptoms of schizophrenia" which means he has
considered it. He followed this with indicated he had been prescribed
benzodiazepines to help him sleep which indicates he has seen a
physician about his difficulties and no diagnosis of schizophrenia was
made.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Kurt.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
P.S. For those who believe I have been untruthful when writing that
there has been no **attempt** by me to exorcise Philip's demon:
(1) It was my choice to pray in Jesus' name on Philip's behalf
concerning the demon.
(2) GOD's immediate answer to (1) was to use me as HIS instrument to
command that the demon depart from Philip.
(3) Because the demon has departed, this event was not an **attempt**
but an actual exorcism not by me but by LORD GOD Almighty.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 10 Jun 2006 09:41:18 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>
> >Philip wrote:
> >> I fear the Lord more than the demon.
> >
> >The LORD is infinitely more powerful.
>
Demons are not fictional. Indeed, it is likely you are being driven by
one as we write.
To understand this, simply find yourself unable to surf the link below
my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Barry.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
P.S. For those who believe I have been untruthful when writing that
Kurt Gavin
An evasive reply.
You are profoundly deluded.
Lending the credibility of your MD/Phd degrees to this christian
fundmentalist sewage makes you dangerous to people with problems.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > benzodiazepines to help him sleep which indicates he has seen a
> > physician about his difficulties and no diagnosis of schizophrenia was
> > made.
>
> An evasive reply.
Hardly.
> You are profoundly deluded.
Your fantasy.
> Lending the credibility of your MD/Phd degrees to this christian
> fundmentalist sewage makes you dangerous to people with problems.
Your gibberish.
Without the LORD, all aspects of your life will be meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
Philip
news:YSEig.4330$lp....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
For a few years, I have been taking antipyschotic medications such as
Zeldox/Geodon (60 mg), Seroquel (100 mg) , and Abilify (15 mg). None of them
can reduce the voices, which is the only symptom of schizophrenia I got. The
nature of the voices is not schizophrenic. The voices speak and communicate
with the wisdom of a demon.
My psychiatrist did not even want to speak to me every time I saw him
because I don't have other symptoms of mental illness to report.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Would suggest you find a psychiatrist who is also a born-again
Christian.
Still praying for you, dear Philip.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> In news:1150027970....@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <nos...@heartmdphd.com> typed:
>
> ::: vera :::
Many thanks and praises to GOD for your kind and loving heart, dear
Vera.
That is how others will know us... by the love we have for one another
:-)
Al
Kurt Gavin
Andrew, you are a profoundly deluded mentally ill person.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
It seems you are suffering from the delusion that you are either a
physician or psychologist with training to diagnose mental problems.
Would suggest you inform your doctor about this delusion.
Kurt Gavin
It's very apparent that you are a profoundly deluded mentally ill person -
many people have arrived at that opinion.
You are also a chronic liar, which indicates charater and personality
problems.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
This reminds me of what happens when the inmates run the asylum.
Kurt Gavin
It's very apparent that you are a profoundly deluded mentally ill person -
many people have arrived at that opinion.
You are also a chronic liar, which indicates charater and personality
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Dear Chung,
>
> It's very apparent that you are a profoundly deluded mentally ill person -
> many people have arrived at that opinion.
Still reminds me of what happens when inmates run the asylum.
> You are also a chronic liar, which indicates charater and personality
> problems.
"Only the truth can call others liars without becoming a hypocrite."
> Lending the credibility of your MD/Phd degrees to this christian
> fundmentalist sewage makes you dangerous to people with problems.
Indeed, the LORD has made me dangerous in the following ways:
(1) Atheism has been slain.
(2) Darwin's theory of evolution has been slain.
(3) Philip's demon is being driven out.
Would not call any of these people either with or without problems,
however.
To understand the above, simply surf the link below my sig.
Al
Credibility is like virginity ... once you've lost it, it's gone
forever, and Chung HAS lost it....
Chung caught in a boldfaced lie! GAME OVER, CHUNG!
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Need proof he's a whacko? Here is the PLAIN TRUTH:
> Credibility is like virginity ... once you've lost it, it's gone
> forever, and Chung HAS lost it....
If it were true that my posts lacked credibility, you would no longer
be participating in these threads.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Al.
Flying Rat
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD says...
> If it were true that my posts lacked credibility, you would no longer
> be participating in these threads.
>
No, o foul one, we continue to expose you as a liar and fraud.
We continue to make sure people who may read anything you post are FULLY
aware of just what a hypocrite and fake you are.
And most of all, you are a ko0k and therefore deserve it.
FR
--
Have a look at this post from 2004
417ffd16$0$63176$4d5e...@reader.city-net.com
Ko0ki Andi, around the time he was starting to become totally unhinged,
used to state he does not crosspost. Now anything he replies to is
crossposted to all the groups he wants to dominate and destroy. His own
words at the time were that he does not ever crosspost, only reply to
crossposts of others. Many times he has been caught out in that
particular lie over the years.
A liar, condemned by his own words and actions. Watch him edit this post
and crosspost it into the groups he wants to destroy, claiming to
'love' everyone. Tough love huh? As were his k00ksoot posts at the time
threatening everyone with libel suits if they dared call him on
anything.
Now consider the "earthquake advisory" posts and prophecy of nuclear war
that...um...doesn't happen.
That's false prophecy then.
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there
shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable
heresies ..." 2 Pet. 2:1
So in summary, k0oki Andi the unemployed, sacked former Florida
physician is a liar and false prophet. Add them up, particularly the
numerous lies he gets caught out in. Serving the Prince of Lies and a
false prophet...doesn't that make k0oki Andi a Satanic pipsqueak and
servant of evil by his own words and deeds?
Beware the blessings of a fraudulent, lying k0ok.
FR
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <and...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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> Kurt Gavin wrote:
>> Dear Chung,
>>
>> It's very apparent that you are a profoundly deluded mentally ill
>> person -
>> many people have arrived at that opinion.
>
> Still reminds me of what happens when inmates run the asylum.
There may well be an asylum in your future.
>> You are also a chronic liar, which indicates charater and personality
>> problems.
>
> "Only the truth can call others liars without becoming a hypocrite."
These pseudo-profound hackney responses are another indication of a failing
mental condition.
>> Lending the credibility of your MD/Phd degrees to this christian
>> fundmentalist sewage makes you dangerous to people with problems.
>
> Indeed, the LORD has made me dangerous in the following ways:
>
> (1) Atheism has been slain.
>
> (2) Darwin's theory of evolution has been slain.
>
> (3) Philip's demon is being driven out.
Only in your mind Andrew, only in what's left of your mind...
Kurt Gavin
> Al wrote:
>> Need proof he's a whacko? Here is the PLAIN TRUTH:
>> Credibility is like virginity ... once you've lost it, it's gone
>> forever, and Chung HAS lost it....
>
> If it were true that my posts lacked credibility, you would no longer
> be participating in these threads.
False.
People often feel compelled to argue against lies.
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Need proof he's a whacko? Here is the PLAIN TRUTH:
> > Credibility is like virginity ... once you've lost it, it's gone
> > forever, and Chung HAS lost it....
>
> If it were true that my posts lacked credibility, you would no longer
> be participating in these threads.
Non sequitur. It is the lack of credibility that motivates a response.
Andrew P. Chung MD/Phd
I DO IT ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT!
Philip
I love his messages and enjoy reading his postings.
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Philip
My demon doesn't like you.
He is quiet at this moment.
I think he is going after you.
<nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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> SUCK XXX
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
It may be the LORD's infinite will to use your demon to cause the
atheists here to repent and turn to HIM.
Without the protection of the Holy Spirit, they are wide open to
demonic possession.
They and you remain in my prayers, dear Philip.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew Chung is a remarkable understanding person.
> I love his messages and enjoy reading his postings.
All the glory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength.
To undertstand this, simply surf the link under my sig.
It is my hope that you have received the Holy Spirit, dear Philip.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
If that were true, Al would have been inundated with responses from all
over.. along with those various imposters... along with you...
To understand this, simply surf the link that follows under my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear JessHC.
Pastor Kutchie
Philip wrote:
> Please don't abuse Andrew's name.
> My demon doesn't like you.
> He is quiet at this moment.
> I think he is going after you.
>
Philip
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Philip has written that he is on a benzodiazepine.
You would be wise to not attract the attention of Philip's demon, who
appears to be a mind-reader.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear neighbor.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Philip wrote:
> > > Please don't abuse Andrew's name.
> > > My demon doesn't like you.
> > > He is quiet at this moment.
> > > I think he is going after you.
> > >
> > Have you ever been diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy?
>
> Philip has written that he is on a benzodiazepine.
>
> You would be wise to not attract the attention of Philip's demon, who
> appears to be a mind-reader.
>
Pastor Kutchie
Fixed typo.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Philip wrote:
> > > Please don't abuse Andrew's name.
> > > My demon doesn't like you.
> > > He is quiet at this moment.
> > > I think he is going after you.
> > >
> > Have you ever been diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy?
>
> Philip has written that he is on a benzodiazepine.
>
Philip
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Those who have been reborn of water and the Holy Spirit are not at
risk.
It is interesting that you have named Philip's demon.
Still praying for your endangered soul, dear neighbor.
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > > > Philip wrote:
> > > > > Please don't abuse Andrew's name.
> > > > > My demon doesn't like you.
> > > > > He is quiet at this moment.
> > > > > I think he is going after you.
> > > > >
> > > > Have you ever been diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy?
> > >
> > > Philip has written that he is on a benzodiazepine.
> > >
> > > You would be wise to not attract the attention of Philip's demon, who
> > > appears to be a mind-reader.
> > >
> > You believe in kit, so you are the one at risk.
>
> Those who have been reborn of water and the Holy Spirit are not at
> risk.
>
> It is interesting that you have named Philip's demon.
>
No, it's very interesting that your millenia old superstition drives
you to sieze upon a typo.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
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> Your demon has many to choose from here on usenet.
There is no demon - just a mental problem.
It is interesting that you and Philip get along so well.... you both imagine
voices and demons, so it's not all that surprising.
Pastor Kutchie
Philip wrote:
> Pastor Kutchie. Maybe you should remove your title.
>
It's a harmless pun. You should - absolutely, not maybe - to get help
from qualified professionals with your voices.You have been given
nothing but glorified sleeping pills for these.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Philip wrote:
> > Pastor Kutchie. Maybe you should remove your title.
>
> It's a harmless pun.
It is a false title.
> You should - absolutely, not maybe - to get help
> from qualified professionals with your voices.
Philip has written that he is under the care of a psychiatrist who has
tried unsuccessfully to drive out the demon with medications.
Perhaps, he should seek out a psychiatrist who is also a born-again
Christian so that spiritual issues can also be considered.
> You have been given
> nothing but glorified sleeping pills for these.
Benzodiazepines are powerful sedative/hypnotics. Moreover, he has
reportedly failed to respond to conventional anti-psychotics.
It is understandable that you are unable to accept the possibility of
demonic possession because it threatens the very foundation of your
atheistic core beliefs.
Still praying for your endangered soul, dear neighbor.
Philip
Abilify (15 mg). I also take Clonazepam (0.5 mg) which is in a class of
drugs called benzodiazepines.
My psychiatrist has been giving me different kinds of antipyschotic
medications to reduce the voices. The result is very negative.
"Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff
"Philip" <phi...@tm.net.my> wrote in message
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> Please don't abuse Andrew's name.
> My demon doesn't like you.
> He is quiet at this moment.
> I think he is going after you.
Whatever, dude.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
#1557
Andrew P. Chung MD/Phd
> My demon doesn't like you.
> He is quiet at this moment.
> I think he is going after you.
>
I FUCKED YOUR DEMON IN THE MOUTH-PROBLEM SOLVED!
SUCK THE COCK OF CHRIST!
I AM A LIAR AND A FRAUD!
Andrew P. Chung MD/Phd
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Philip wrote:
> > > Pastor Kutchie. Maybe you should remove your title.
> >
> > It's a harmless pun.
>
> It is a false title.
>
> > You should - absolutely, not maybe - to get help
> > from qualified professionals with your voices.
>
> Philip has written that he is under the care of a psychiatrist who has
> tried unsuccessfully to drive out the demon with medications.
Follow his example.
> Perhaps, he should seek out a psychiatrist who is also a born-again
> Christian so that spiritual issues can also be considered.
Why?
> > You have been given
> > nothing but glorified sleeping pills for these.
>
> Benzodiazepines are powerful sedative/hypnotics. Moreover, he has
> reportedly failed to respond to conventional anti-psychotics.
>
> It is understandable that you are unable to accept the possibility of
> demonic possession because it threatens the very foundation of your
> atheistic core beliefs.
And isn't supported by any legitimate objective evidence.
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > > > Philip wrote:
> > > > > Please don't abuse Andrew's name.
> > > > > My demon doesn't like you.
> > > > > He is quiet at this moment.
> > > > > I think he is going after you.
> > > > >
> > > > Have you ever been diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy?
> > >
> > > Philip has written that he is on a benzodiazepine.
> > >
> > > You would be wise to not attract the attention of Philip's demon, who
> > > appears to be a mind-reader.
> > >
> > You believe in kit, so you are the one at risk.
>
> Those who have been reborn of water and the Holy Spirit are not at
> risk.
Got any peer-reviewed evidence for that assertion?
The Lord
> Please don't abuse Andrew's name.
> My demon doesn't like you.
> He is quiet at this moment.
> I think he is going after you.
All of us up here in 'heaven' are praying that 'beelzebub' takes you
down into the pit quickly.
Frankly, we're tired of Chung's shit.
Grow up. It's not a demon, it's you not taking responsibility for your
own actions. Get over it.
JC
Andrew P. Chung MD/Phd
YOU,TOO,CAN SUCK ON THIS MIGHTY STAFF OF LIFE!
AND GET THE SAME BRAIN INFECTION THAT I HAVE!
IT WILL SAVE YOUR SOUL FROM HELL!
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
There's one really annoyingly dishonest one who claims to be a doctor
and goes by the name "Andrew B. Chung."
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> JessHC wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Al wrote:
> > > > Need proof he's a whacko? Here is the PLAIN TRUTH:
> > > > Credibility is like virginity ... once you've lost it, it's gone
> > > > forever, and Chung HAS lost it....
> > >
> > > If it were true that my posts lacked credibility, you would no longer
> > > be participating in these threads.
> >
> > Non sequitur. It is the lack of credibility that motivates a response.
>
> If that were true, Al would have been inundated with responses from all
> over.. along with those various imposters... along with you...
The evidence that it is true is in the majority of the responses to
you. Cute attempts to shift attention away from that is just more
evidence against you, so please, do it again.
wbarwell
THE BIBLE, CHRISTIANS, AND MIRACLES
- AN ATHEIST MANIFESTO
*********************************************
Miracles. The bible promises we can work big
miracles. One either can or one cannot. No one
can.
Why?
1. Either the bible is untrue and the writers who
put these promises in the mouth of Jesus were
liars and idle tellers of tall tales, and
pious frauds.
or...
2. These promises are true and only real
Christians can work great miracles as promised
and those who can work no miracles are not
real Christians. Faux Christians at best.
True Christians are obviously extremely rare
at best
But if #2, then we should ignore all those who
cannot do miracles because they are obviously not
real Christians and can at best mislead us and
at best make us as one of them, false Christians,
probably damned if Matthew 7 is true. They can at
best teach us to become pseudo-Christians unable
to work miracles as they who cannot themselves
work miracles. They have nothing to teach us.
We then should as the only intelligent thing to
do, pay attention only to real Christians, those
who can as per Jesus's words, work great and
obvious miracles. Therefore, It is logical to pay
no attention to any self proclaimed Christian who
cannot work large, obvious miracles.
If no such Great miracle working Christians
exist, its most likely that #1 is true, the bible
lies, anonymous fools wrote stupid falsehoods.
So from now on, Christians, if you can't work the
promised big miracles, shut up. You have no right
to speak. You are not really a Christian. If you
cannot work the great miracles as promised, and
cannot point to those who demonstrably can now,
nothing you say is of value.
THE BIG MIRACLE PROMISES OF THE BIBLE
THE WORDS OF JESUS.
********************************************
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do; because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith. Therefore I say unto you, What
things soever ye desire, when ye pray,
believe ye receive them and ye shall have
them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two of you
shall agree on earth as touching anything
that they shall ask, it shall be done for
them of my father which is in heaven. For
where two or three are gathered in my name,
there I am in the midst of them.
***********************************************
--
"I used to think the brain was the most fascinating part
of the body. Then I thought, "Look what's telling me
that."
- Emo Phillips
Cheerful Charlie
wbarwell
> Andrew Chung is a remarkable understanding person.
> I love his messages and enjoy reading his postings.
>
Andrew P. Chung MD/Phd
jesshc
Really? Let's try a little experiement.
HEY! PHILIP'S DEMON! WHAT'S MY CAT'S NAME? HOW OLD IS IT? FEEL FREE
TO INFORM PHILIP SO HE CAN POST IT ON THE INTERNET! THEN I'LL BE REALLY
SCARED!
I'm sure Andy will have some really convincing excuse when this doesn't
happen.
Philip
He can give you many answers.
He will never tell you the truth.
Why are you so curious to attract his attention.
Yes, you will really be scared when you start hearing his voices and
torment.
"jesshc" <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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Philip
Your cat name is Lord Buddha.
It is five years old.
"Philip" <phi...@tm.net.my> wrote in message
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Philip
Your cat's name is Lord Buddha.
It is five years old.
Same answer as before.
What else do you want to ask my demon?
"Philip" <phi...@tm.net.my> wrote in message
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Stephen Knight
>Andrew Chung is a remarkable understanding person.
>I love his messages and enjoy reading his postings.
>
Of course. He is the essence of all things wonderful with the Lord.
His keen insight and verbal mastery of what GOD thinks has atheists
converting by the millions. We are overwhelmed by his ability to post
cutting edge scripture, biting repertoire to our logic and
reasoning... we have to give up and say... 'your right!'..
Christians are perfect pieces of shit but forgiven and we want to be
just like you because he says so and he's right.
You guys have quite a mover and shaker in, Dung.
Seriously... I think the time has come to recognize him as a Saint.
A piece of sinning shit human with the voice of GOD! Is that the
greatest thing or what!?
Praise the LORD for the gift of DUNG!
Appallingly.... Dung will reply with a patronizing warm and fuzzy
cloistered sock puppet remark intoning his superstition and leave us
atheists, once again saying,..... 'wha....!?'
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Please have someone baptize you with water and the Holy Spirit as soon
as the LORD is willing.
>From Acts 8:26-40
Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, "Go south to the road-the
desert road-that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza." So he started
out, and on his way he met an Ethiopian eunuch, an important official
in charge of all the treasury of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians. This
man had gone to Jerusalem to worship, and on his way home was sitting
in his chariot reading the book of Isaiah the prophet. The Spirit told
Philip, "Go to that chariot and stay near it."
Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the
prophet. "Do you understand what you are reading?" Philip asked.
"How can I," he said, "unless someone explains it to me?" So he invited
Philip to come up and sit with him.
The eunuch was reading this passage of Scripture
"He was led like a sheep to the slaughter,
and as a lamb before the shearer is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
In his humiliation he was deprived of justice.
Who can speak of his descendants?
For his life was taken from the earth."
The eunuch asked Philip, "Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking
about, himself or someone else?" Then Philip began with that very
passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.
As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch
said, "Look, here is water. Why shouldn't I be baptized?" And he gave
orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down
into the water and Philip baptized him. When they came up out of the
water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch
did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing. Philip, however,
appeared at Azotus and traveled about, preaching the gospel in all the
towns until he reached Caesarea.
Amen !
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
Pastor Kutchie
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Philip wrote:
> > > Pastor Kutchie. Maybe you should remove your title.
> >
> > It's a harmless pun.
>
> It is a false title.
>
It's a Usenet handle. You are betraying serious mental issues caring
about it.
> > You should - absolutely, not maybe - to get help
> > from qualified professionals with your voices.
>
> Philip has written that he is under the care of a psychiatrist who has
> tried unsuccessfully to drive out the demon with medications.
>
Can you list all of the medications he has been tried on?
> Perhaps, he should seek out a psychiatrist who is also a born-again
> Christian so that spiritual issues can also be considered.
>
I doubt if there are any.
> > You have been given
> > nothing but glorified sleeping pills for these.
>
> Benzodiazepines are powerful sedative/hypnotics. Moreover, he has
> reportedly failed to respond to conventional anti-psychotics.
>
I read his reply, he is still on two of them, simultaneously, which is
odd.
> It is understandable that you are unable to accept the possibility of
> demonic possession because it threatens the very foundation of your
> atheistic core beliefs.
>
You sacrificed your powers of understanding when you were 'born again'.
Demons are at odds with the entire fabric of reality. They are a
superstition dating back to the dawn of history, and probably beyond.
They were a primitive rationalisation of all sorts of conditions
including epilepsy and schizophrenia.
Andrew P. Chung MD/Phd
Andrew P. Chung MD/Phd
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > > Philip wrote:
> > > > Pastor Kutchie. Maybe you should remove your title.
> > >
> > > It's a harmless pun.
> >
> > It is a false title.
>
> It's a Usenet handle.
Your Usenet handle includes a false title.
> You are betraying serious mental issues caring about it.
Your bristling at the truth is a tell for those who have satan's mark
emblazoned across their foreheads.
> > > You should - absolutely, not maybe - to get help
> > > from qualified professionals with your voices.
> >
> > Philip has written that he is under the care of a psychiatrist who has
> > tried unsuccessfully to drive out the demon with medications.
>
> Can you list all of the medications he has been tried on?
Philip has already listed them here on Usenet.
> > Perhaps, he should seek out a psychiatrist who is also a born-again
> > Christian so that spiritual issues can also be considered.
>
> I doubt if there are any.
Without the LORD, there can only be doubt.
> > > You have been given
> > > nothing but glorified sleeping pills for these.
> >
> > Benzodiazepines are powerful sedative/hypnotics. Moreover, he has
> > reportedly failed to respond to conventional anti-psychotics.
>
> I read his reply, he is still on two of them, simultaneously, which is
> odd.
Not for those who have failed being on just one.
> > It is understandable that you are unable to accept the possibility of
> > demonic possession because it threatens the very foundation of your
> > atheistic core beliefs.
>
> You sacrificed your powers of understanding when you were 'born again'.
Your bristling indicates that what I have written has struck a nerve.
> Demons are at odds with the entire fabric of reality. They are a
> superstition dating back to the dawn of history, and probably beyond.
> They were a primitive rationalisation of all sorts of conditions
> including epilepsy and schizophrenia.
Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
to be extended to Philip's demon?
You and your cohorts would certainly have the proof of the supernatural
that you have been clamoring for in what the demon does to you.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > > > Philip wrote:
> > > > > Pastor Kutchie. Maybe you should remove your title.
> > > >
> > > > It's a harmless pun.
> > >
> > > It is a false title.
> >
> > It's a Usenet handle.
>
> Your Usenet handle includes a false title.
At least he isn't lying about his sanity.
Don Kirkman
<448cc599$1...@news.tm.net.my>:
>Currently, I am taking antipyschotic medications Seroquel (100 mg) and
>Abilify (15 mg). I also take Clonazepam (0.5 mg) which is in a class of
>drugs called benzodiazepines.
>My psychiatrist has been giving me different kinds of antipyschotic
>medications to reduce the voices. The result is very negative.
As a layman using common sense, then, if I were in your situation I
would consider first, a change or adjustment in the medications (many
medications interact, possibly reducing the likelihood of the desired
result) or, second, a change in the doctor. ISTM these should always be
the first two considerations when medical treatment seems not to be
working properly. Medicines are not magic, and physicians are not gods.
--
Don Kirkman
Don Kirkman
article <1150109459.8...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>If indeed this is true, JessHC is in a great deal of danger.
>
>Please have someone baptize you with water and the Holy Spirit as soon
>as the LORD is willing.
Of course this is contrary to the teaching and practice of practically
all Christian denominations and groups, who allow only licensed or
ordained leaders to baptize converts. The only common exception is when
death seems imminent and no such leader is available.
Baptism is not a magic action, but a reflection of an individual's
reasoned decision to participate in the church community.
--
Don Kirkman
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <1150109459.8...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >If indeed this is true, JessHC is in a great deal of danger.
> >
> >Please have someone baptize you with water and the Holy Spirit as soon
> >as the LORD is willing.
>
> Of course this is contrary to the teaching and practice of practically
> all Christian denominations and groups, who allow only licensed or
> ordained leaders to baptize converts.
Actually, this is in accordance to the Word of GOD (Acts) and is in
widespread practice throughout Asia, where missionaries and other
born-again Christians routinely baptize in the name of GOD the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
> The only common exception is when
> death seems imminent and no such leader is available.
It is commonplace in China.
> Baptism is not a magic action, but a reflection of an individual's
> reasoned decision to participate in the church community.
Half-truth.
Christ's Baptism is spiritual because it involves the Holy Spirit.
Spiritual matters are supernatural. However, the supernatural Holy
Spirit is not magic. HE is GOD.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Don.
The Lord
> What else do you want to ask my demon?
Who ya got in the World Series this year?
Philip
Demon: I don't know the answer. I don't want to tell you.
Demon: I hate this fellow. He tries to humiliate me.
Demon: Please don't ask me any question. Are you crazy?
"The Lord" <chungism...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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panam...@hotmail.com
The Amazing Earthquack, available for parties & weddings wrote:
> Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > > > Philip wrote:
> Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> to be extended to Philip's demon?
ROFLMAO! Pastor Kutchie, look out! He done ex-sore-sized dat demon, and
he's gonna put it in yore hed! Wait here, I'll go get a chicken and
some rum. You'll love that Voodun that I do so well..
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
panam...@hotmail.com
Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Pastor Kutchie wrote:
> > > Philip wrote:
> > > > My demon doesn't like you.
> > > > He is quiet at this moment.
> > > > I think he is going after you.
> > > >
> > > Have you ever been diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy?
> >
> >
> And...?
And it doesn't seem to be working..
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Taking medical advice from Earthquack? You'll need this:
http://georgiamalpractice.com/
http://www.lawinfo.com/attorney/Malpractice-Medical/Georgia
http://www.gppf.org/article.asp?RT=11&p=pub/LegalReform/MedicalMalpractice/malpractice_full_study.htm
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew wrote:
> > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > to be extended to Philip's demon?
>
> ROFLMAO!
"Written laughter is silent despair.
> Pastor Kutchie, look out!
> He done ex-sore-sized dat demon, and
> he's gonna put it in yore hed!
Inability to make eye contact during a conversation remains a tell for
those who have satan's mark emblazoned across their foreheads.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
> Wait here, I'll go get a chicken and
> some rum. You'll love that Voodun that I do so well..
Your parents may take issue with your stealing their chicken and their
rum.
Would suggest you ask them first before you raid their liquor cabinet.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul.
Panama Floyd
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Andrew wrote:
>
> > > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > > to be extended to Philip's demon?
> >
> > ROFLMAO!
>
> "Written laughter is silent despair.
Written laughter is open derision, nutcase.
> > Pastor Kutchie, look out!
>
> Not use...@heathen.org.uk
>
> > He done ex-sore-sized dat demon, and
> > he's gonna put it in yore hed!
>
> Inability to make eye contact during a conversation remains a tell for
> those who have satan's mark emblazoned across their foreheads.
Eye contact? On a written medium? Okaaayyy...
> To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
I've told you before, I need it translated from Idiot to English.
> > Wait here, I'll go get a chicken and
> > some rum. You'll love that Voodun that I do so well..
>
> Your parents may take issue with your stealing their chicken and their
> rum.
What is this strange facination with my parents? You're an odd little
man, Andy.
> Would suggest you ask them first before you raid their liquor cabinet.
I'm 40 years old, you cretin. I haven't raided a liquor cabinet in 25
years.
Although I must admit that I enjoy seeing a short exibition of lucidity
out of you..
> Still praying for your poor enslaved soul.
Still looking for your thorazine prescription.
Panama Floyd
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Andrew wrote:
> >
> > > > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > > > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > > > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > > > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > > > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > > > to be extended to Philip's demon?
> > >
> > > ROFLMAO!
> >
> > "Written laughter is silent despair.
>
> Written laughter is open derision, nutcase.
If you were secure in the truth, you would have had the strength to
resist the temptation of descending into name-calling.
> > > Pastor Kutchie, look out!
> >
> > Not use...@heathen.org.uk
> >
> > > He done ex-sore-sized dat demon, and
> > > he's gonna put it in yore hed!
> >
> > Inability to make eye contact during a conversation remains a tell for
> > those who have satan's mark emblazoned across their foreheads.
>
> Eye contact? On a written medium? Okaaayyy...
Yes. Responding by writing about the poster rather than writing to the
poster.
> > To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
>
> I've told you before, I need it translated from Idiot to English.
Sorry about your difficulties with reading comprehension. Please
forgive all my iniquities.
> > > Wait here, I'll go get a chicken and
> > > some rum. You'll love that Voodun that I do so well..
> >
> > Your parents may take issue with your stealing their chicken and their
> > rum.
>
> What is this strange facination with my parents? You're an odd little
> man, Andy.
Your bristling betrays your insecurities about your parents.
> > Would suggest you ask them first before you raid their liquor cabinet.
>
> I'm 40 years old, you cretin.
That is kind of old for someone still staying with ones parents.
> I haven't raided a liquor cabinet in 25
> years.
Then definitely ask before you do.
> Although I must admit that I enjoy seeing a short exibition of lucidity
> out of you..
Name-calling is a sign of something other than joy.
> > Still praying for your poor enslaved soul.
>
> Still looking for your thorazine prescription.
Sorry, I am unable to write one for you. Please forgive all my
iniquities.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Floyd.
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Andrew wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > > > > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > > > > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > > > > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > > > > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > > > > to be extended to Philip's demon?
> > > >
> > > > ROFLMAO!
> > >
> > > "Written laughter is silent despair.
> >
> > Written laughter is open derision, nutcase.
>
> If you were secure in the truth, you would have had the strength to
> resist the temptation of descending into name-calling.
Another stock unsupported assertion from Andy, who appears to not know
the difference.
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Andrew wrote:
>
> > > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > > to be extended to Philip's demon?
> >
> > ROFLMAO!
>
> "Written laughter is silent despair.
Unsupported assertion, contradicted by evidence.
Robibnikoff
"Panama Floyd" <panam...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1150190574....@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
snip
>> Your parents may take issue with your stealing their chicken and their
>> rum.
>
> What is this strange facination with my parents? You're an odd little
> man, Andy.
Um, what is he going on about?
>
>> Would suggest you ask them first before you raid their liquor cabinet.
>
> I'm 40 years old, you cretin. I haven't raided a liquor cabinet in 25
> years.
LOL!
> Although I must admit that I enjoy seeing a short exibition of lucidity
> out of you..
>
>> Still praying for your poor enslaved soul.
>
> Still looking for your thorazine prescription.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
#1557
Don Kirkman
>Don Kirkman wrote:
>> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
>> article <1150109459.8...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>> >If indeed this is true, JessHC is in a great deal of danger.
>> >Please have someone baptize you with water and the Holy Spirit as soon
>> >as the LORD is willing.
>> Of course this is contrary to the teaching and practice of practically
>> all Christian denominations and groups, who allow only licensed or
>> ordained leaders to baptize converts.
>Actually, this is in accordance to the Word of GOD (Acts) and is in
>widespread practice throughout Asia, where missionaries and other
>born-again Christians routinely baptize in the name of GOD the Father,
>the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
IME most missionaries who perform baptisms ARE licensed or ordained
leaders, and I have known more of them than you have. :-)
.
>> The only common exception is when
>> death seems imminent and no such leader is available.
>It is commonplace in China.
I doubt the level of your knowledge of current China, since at most you
may have visited but I doubt you've ever even been there.
>> Baptism is not a magic action, but a reflection of an individual's
>> reasoned decision to participate in the church community.
>Half-truth.
In truth it is far more than that: baptism and other rites are not
magic, and church doctrine is that the rites are signs of the
individual's involvement in the communal life of the church. Baptism is
the rite of entry.
>Christ's Baptism is spiritual because it involves the Holy Spirit.
>Spiritual matters are supernatural. However, the supernatural Holy
>Spirit is not magic. HE is GOD.
Prescribing baptism for a schizophrenic (as you did) is using the rite
as a piece of magic. No one who actually believes baptism to be an
outward sign of an inner life change would turn it into a magic bandaid
for a person who seriously needs medical intervention.
--
Don Kirkman
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <1150159229.1...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> >> article <1150109459.8...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >> >If indeed this is true, JessHC is in a great deal of danger.
>
> >> >Please have someone baptize you with water and the Holy Spirit as soon
> >> >as the LORD is willing.
>
> >> Of course this is contrary to the teaching and practice of practically
> >> all Christian denominations and groups, who allow only licensed or
> >> ordained leaders to baptize converts.
>
> >Actually, this is in accordance to the Word of GOD (Acts) and is in
> >widespread practice throughout Asia, where missionaries and other
> >born-again Christians routinely baptize in the name of GOD the Father,
> >the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
>
> IME most missionaries who perform baptisms ARE licensed or ordained
> leaders, and I have known more of them than you have. :-)
Without the LORD, your experiences are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >> The only common exception is when
> >> death seems imminent and no such leader is available.
>
> >It is commonplace in China.
>
> I doubt the level of your knowledge of current China, since at most you
> may have visited but I doubt you've ever even been there.
Visiting is being there.
> >> Baptism is not a magic action, but a reflection of an individual's
> >> reasoned decision to participate in the church community.
>
> >Half-truth.
>
> In truth it is far more than that: baptism and other rites are not
> magic,
Correct.
> and church doctrine is that the rites are signs of the
> individual's involvement in the communal life of the church.
That is not what is written in the Bible.
> Baptism is
> the rite of entry.
Again, that is not what is written in the Bible.
> >Christ's Baptism is spiritual because it involves the Holy Spirit.
> >Spiritual matters are supernatural. However, the supernatural Holy
> >Spirit is not magic. HE is GOD.
>
> Prescribing baptism for a schizophrenic (as you did) is using the rite
> as a piece of magic.
It would be your choice to bear false witness.
(1) I have not diagnosed Philip with schizophrenia. Indeed, I do not
believe he is schizophrenic. If he were, the voices he hears would
have at least lessened with anti-psychotic medications. Reportedly,
this has not happened.
(2) I believe Philip has a demon troubling him but I am not sure it is
really possession because Philip's free will appears to be intact.
(3) I believe that Christ's baptism would lead to driving Philip's
demon away by the power of the Holy Spirit. The workings of the Holy
Spirit are not pieces of magic.
Bottomline: I have not prescribed baptism for treating any medical
condition. Instead, I have recommended Christ's baptism to address a
spiritual condition.
> No one who actually believes baptism to be an
> outward sign of an inner life change would turn it into a magic bandaid
> for a person who seriously needs medical intervention.
Agree. Neither parts of your assertion apply to me, however.
panam...@hotmail.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Andrew wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > > > > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > > > > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > > > > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > > > > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > > > > to be extended to Philip's demon?
> > > >
> > > > ROFLMAO!
> > >
> > > "Written laughter is silent despair.
> >
> > Written laughter is open derision, nutcase.
>
> If you were secure in the truth, you would have had the strength to
> resist the temptation of descending into name-calling.
So you admit your own insecurity with truth? Good boy. Adressing the
miscomforts of reality is the first step to a cure.
"Yes, Atheists are natural cowards"
-Andrew B Chung in sci.med.cardiology, Monday Jun 12, 6:48a EDT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0ef7c3333dbd771f?dmode=source
Andrew B Chung, hypocrite.
> > > > Pastor Kutchie, look out!
> > >
> > > Not use...@heathen.org.uk
> > >
> > > > He done ex-sore-sized dat demon, and
> > > > he's gonna put it in yore hed!
> > >
> > > Inability to make eye contact during a conversation remains a tell for
> > > those who have satan's mark emblazoned across their foreheads.
> >
> > Eye contact? On a written medium? Okaaayyy...
>
> Yes. Responding by writing about the poster rather than writing to the
> poster.
That's because the adults were talking *about* you, not *to* you. How
on earth did you ever graduate from medical school with such an
inability to read for comprehension?
> > > To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
> >
> > I've told you before, I need it translated from Idiot to English.
>
> Sorry about your difficulties with reading comprehension. Please
> forgive all my iniquities.
No.
> > > > Wait here, I'll go get a chicken and
> > > > some rum. You'll love that Voodun that I do so well..
> > >
> > > Your parents may take issue with your stealing their chicken and their
> > > rum.
> >
> > What is this strange facination with my parents? You're an odd little
> > man, Andy.
>
> Your bristling betrays your insecurities about your parents.
Namecalling again, hypocrite? Typical christian liar, you are.
> > > Would suggest you ask them first before you raid their liquor cabinet.
> >
> > I'm 40 years old, you cretin.
>
> That is kind of old for someone still staying with ones parents.
Reduced to cheap shots now, Andy? What a miserable little guy you must
be. Career in shambles, wife and child gone..what a shame. You had so
much potential. *Your* parents must be so ashamed. Oh, well. I'm sure
they still love you, regardless of the mistakes you've made.
> > I haven't raided a liquor cabinet in 25
> > years.
>
> Then definitely ask before you do.
No, thanks. I prefer beer. An ancient, noble beverage. The stuff of
backyard barbeques, rather than stuffy nightclubs.
> > Although I must admit that I enjoy seeing a short exibition of lucidity
> > out of you..
>
> Name-calling is a sign of something other than joy.
Hypocrite.
"Yes, Atheists are natural cowards"
-Andrew B Chung in sci.med.cardiology, Monday Jun 12, 6:48a EDT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0ef7c3333dbd771f?dmode=source
> > > Still praying for your poor enslaved soul.
> >
> > Still looking for your thorazine prescription.
>
> Sorry, I am unable to write one for you.
Don't tell me you've had your Georgia licence revoked as well..hey you
lasted longer than 88 days this time. Move to Alabama and try again!
panam...@hotmail.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Andrew wrote:
> > > > > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > > > > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > > > > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > > > > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > > > > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > > > > to be extended to Philip's demon?
> > > > ROFLMAO!
> > > "Written laughter is silent despair.
> > Written laughter is open derision, nutcase.
> If you were secure in the truth, you would have had the strength to
> resist the temptation of descending into name-calling.
So you admit your own insecurity with truth? Good boy. Adressing the
miscomforts of reality is the first step to a cure.
"Yes, Atheists are natural cowards"
-Andrew B Chung in sci.med.cardiology, Monday Jun 12, 6:48a EDT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0ef7c3333dbd771f?dmode=source
Andrew B Chung, hypocrite.
> > > > Pastor Kutchie, look out!
> > > Not use...@heathen.org.uk
> > > > He done ex-sore-sized dat demon, and
> > > > he's gonna put it in yore hed!
> > > Inability to make eye contact during a conversation remains a tell for
> > > those who have satan's mark emblazoned across their foreheads.
> > Eye contact? On a written medium? Okaaayyy...
> Yes. Responding by writing about the poster rather than writing to the
> poster.
That's because the adults were talking *about* you, not *to* you. How
on earth did you ever graduate from medical school with such an
inability to read for comprehension?
> > > To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
> > I've told you before, I need it translated from Idiot to English.
> Sorry about your difficulties with reading comprehension. Please
> forgive all my iniquities.
No.
> > > > Wait here, I'll go get a chicken and
> > > > some rum. You'll love that Voodun that I do so well..
> > > Your parents may take issue with your stealing their chicken and their
> > > rum.
> > What is this strange facination with my parents? You're an odd little
> > man, Andy.
> Your bristling betrays your insecurities about your parents.
Namecalling again, hypocrite? Typical christian liar, you are.
> > > Would suggest you ask them first before you raid their liquor cabinet.
> > I'm 40 years old, you cretin.
> That is kind of old for someone still staying with ones parents.
Reduced to cheap shots now, Andy? What a miserable little guy you must
be. Career in shambles, wife and child gone..what a shame. You had so
much potential. *Your* parents must be so ashamed. Oh, well. I'm sure
they still love you, regardless of the mistakes you've made.
> > I haven't raided a liquor cabinet in 25
> > years.
> Then definitely ask before you do.
No, thanks. I prefer beer. An ancient, noble beverage. The stuff of
backyard barbeques, rather than stuffy nightclubs.
> > Although I must admit that I enjoy seeing a short exibition of lucidity
> > out of you..
> Name-calling is a sign of something other than joy.
Hypocrite.
"Yes, Atheists are natural cowards"
-Andrew B Chung in sci.med.cardiology, Monday Jun 12, 6:48a EDT
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0ef7c3333dbd771f?dmode=source
> > > Still praying for your poor enslaved soul.
> > Still looking for your thorazine prescription.
> Sorry, I am unable to write one for you.
Don't tell me you've had your Georgia licence revoked as well..hey you
lasted longer than 88 days this time. Move to Alabama and try again!
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Panama Floyd wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > panam...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Andrew wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > > > > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > > > > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > > > > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > > > > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > > > > to be extended to Philip's demon?
> > > >
> > > > ROFLMAO!
> > >
> > > "Written laughter is silent despair.
> >
> > Written laughter is open derision, nutcase.
>
> If you were secure in the truth, you would have had the strength to
> resist the temptation of descending into name-calling.
Yeah, you keep asserting that. It hasn't become true yet, so you
should assert it a bunch more times, just in case.
> > > > Pastor Kutchie, look out!
> > >
> > > Not use...@heathen.org.uk
> > >
> > > > He done ex-sore-sized dat demon, and
> > > > he's gonna put it in yore hed!
> > >
> > > Inability to make eye contact during a conversation remains a tell for
> > > those who have satan's mark emblazoned across their foreheads.
> >
> > Eye contact? On a written medium? Okaaayyy...
>
> Yes. Responding by writing about the poster rather than writing to the
> poster.
Inability to use metaphor correctly is a mark of psychosis.
> > > To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
> >
> > I've told you before, I need it translated from Idiot to English.
>
> Sorry about your difficulties with reading comprehension. Please
> forgive all my iniquities.
Sorry about your difficulties with honesty and reality. Please seek
professional help.
> > > > Wait here, I'll go get a chicken and
> > > > some rum. You'll love that Voodun that I do so well..
> > >
> > > Your parents may take issue with your stealing their chicken and their
> > > rum.
> >
> > What is this strange facination with my parents? You're an odd little
> > man, Andy.
>
> Your bristling betrays your insecurities about your parents.
Commenting on your obsessions isn't "bristling."
> > > Would suggest you ask them first before you raid their liquor cabinet.
> >
> > I'm 40 years old, you cretin.
>
> That is kind of old for someone still staying with ones parents.
You're really getting pathetic, andy.
> > I haven't raided a liquor cabinet in 25
> > years.
>
> Then definitely ask before you do.
Even if it's his own, andy? That seems unreasonable.
> > Although I must admit that I enjoy seeing a short exibition of lucidity
> > out of you..
>
> Name-calling is a sign of something other than joy.
Is that why you're calling Floyd childish? Is that why you call anyone
who points out your rudeness and dishonesty liars? There are drugs
that can help you.
> > > Still praying for your poor enslaved soul.
> >
> > Still looking for your thorazine prescription.
>
> Sorry, I am unable to write one for you. Please forgive all my
> iniquities.
The ones where you call people names, the ones where you disobey your
lord, or the ones where you lie? Shouldn't we wait to forgive until
after you actually stop?
JessHC
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Andrew wrote:
>
> > > Then you are having a tough time reconciling your beliefs with what you
> > > have been observing. It is possible that Philip's demon will be more
> > > willing to stop troubling Philip if we offer him a new host in you. It
> > > is written in the Bible that such offers have been taken up by demons
> > > in the past. Are you willing to test your belief and allow this offer
> > > to be extended to Philip's demon?
> >
> > ROFLMAO!
>
> "Written laughter is silent despair.
Oops, Andys' still desperately lying and hoping nobody will notice.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> On 10 Jun 2006 16:54:20 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >Barry OGrady wrote:
> >> On 10 Jun 2006 09:41:18 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
> >> >Philip wrote:
> >> >> I fear the Lord more than the demon.
> >> >
> >> >The LORD is infinitely more powerful.
> >>
> >> All fictional creatures are equally powerful.
> >
> >Demons are not fictional.
>
> They are in the sense that they don't exist.
Tell that to Philip, who is being bothered by one that speaks in
tongues and reads minds.
Still praying for your endangered soul, dear Barry.
Al
>> > >
>> > > Did not attempt exorcism.
>> > >
Wanna bet, Chung? Here's EXACTLY what you said:
"In the infinitely powerful and holy name of LORD Jesus Christ, I
command you, demon, to come out and leave Philip before our LORD
personally destroys you. "
Chung caught in a boldfaced lie!
Philip
A few day ago, I went for a full blood test,
and the result was normal.
Thanks Lord, my physical body is still healthy.
Thanks Lord, I can still sleep throughout the night.
Thank you very much Andrew for your concern.
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1150318924.8...@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> I am still troubled by the demonic voices.
> A few day ago, I went for a full blood test,
> and the result was normal.
>
> Thanks Lord, my physical body is still healthy.
> Thanks Lord, I can still sleep throughout the night.
>
> Thank you very much Andrew for your concern.
In the name of LORD Jesus Christ, KING of kings and LORD of lords, I
command you, demon, to depart forever from Philip never to trouble him
again in any way, shape, or form.
Marana tha !
Andrew
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