Not for the discerning.
To understand this, simply surf the link under my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Barry.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
More Chung incessant bull shit.
SUCK THE COCK OF CHRIST!
Dr. Chung,
Did the earth exist 1E6 years ago? Did you and I have a common ancestor
then? Was it human? Please include your best estimates of the
probabilities of your responses. Thanks in advance.
Brett McCoy
Don't know. Looking forward to when GOD will tell me sometime between
now and the end of eternity.
> Did you and I have a common ancestor
> then?
We have many common ancestors in the line from Adam down to Noah.
> Was it human?
The line from Adam down to Noah were all human.
> Please include your best estimates of the
> probabilities of your responses.
100% (i.e. the truth)
Sorry my answers are unlikely to satisfy you. Please forgive all my
iniquities.
GOD's spiritual gift of a discerning heart is not the same as HIS
omniscience.
> Thanks in advance.
You are welcome.
All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength.
Still praying for you, dear Brett.
Thus helping to show that John14:13 and 16:24 have no validity.
Not for the discerning.
To understand this, simply surf the link under my sig.
You will be in my prayers, dear Mike.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
>> Dr. Chung,
>>
>> Did the earth exist 1E6 years ago?
>
> Don't know. Looking forward to when GOD will tell me sometime between
> now and the end of eternity.
You mean your master supernatural being told you how he created life on
earth (speaking stuff into life or something), but didn't mention how old
the earth is?
Seems odd. Why don't you just ask him and report back to us? Or why don't
you have him appear?
Kurt Gavin wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> news:1149957666.0...@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Bretts' Ghost wrote:
>
> >> Dr. Chung,
> >>
> >> Did the earth exist 1E6 years ago?
> >
> > Don't know. Looking forward to when GOD will tell me sometime between
> > now and the end of eternity.
>
> You mean your master supernatural being told you how he created life on
> earth (speaking stuff into life or something), but didn't mention how old
> the earth is?
Since we killed HIS one and only begotten Son, GOD has been silent in
HIS anger toward us even though HIS Son has overcome both the world and
death, and now holds the keys to both death and hell.
The knowledge that I have comes from walking with LORD Jesus Christ,
Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. This
knowledge does not include the exact timecourse of creating the
universe and associated cosmic events.
> Seems odd. Why don't you just ask him and report back to us?
GOD remains silent.
> Or why don't you have him appear?
The LORD has already appeared here on usenet.
To see for yourself, simply surf the link that is below my sig.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
P.S. For those who believe I have been untruthful when writing that
there has been no **attempt** by me to exorcise Philip's demon:
(1) It was my choice to pray in Jesus' name on Philip's behalf
concerning the demon.
(2) GOD's immediate answer to (1) was to use me as HIS instrument to
command that the demon depart from Philip.
(3) Because the demon has departed, this event was not an **attempt**
but an actual exorcism not by me but by LORD GOD Almighty.
Nobody alive now had anything to do with killing this "jesus".
Nobody alive now could have done anything to stop the killing of this
"jesus".
According to your myth, "god" WAS alive and able to intervene, so isn't he
the only one with any guilt concerning whatshisname's death? (Assuming any
of the myth is true, which is doubtful).
>even though HIS Son has overcome both the world and
> death, and now holds the keys to both death and hell.
;-)) <wink wink>
> The knowledge that I have comes from walking with LORD Jesus Christ,
Ok, what does HE say about the age of the earth?
You are in violation of god's law about having no other gods than him, etc.
Within the deluded realm of your "beliefs", upon death, you will be judged
and sent to torture in hell.
Actually, each person who is saved now by placing their faith in Jesus
Christ as their LORD and Savior is washed clean of their sins by the
blood that has been shed by the Lamb of GOD while HE was nailed to the
cross unto HIS death. And so our deadly sins are what killed Jesus
Christ of Nazareth.
> Nobody alive now could have done anything to stop the killing of this
> "jesus".
Nonetheless, GOD's anger burns as an unquenchable fire ready to
incinerate those who refuse to acknowledge the sacrifice of HIS Son on
their behalf.
> According to your myth, "god" WAS alive and able to intervene, so isn't he
> the only one with any guilt concerning whatshisname's death? (Assuming any
> of the myth is true, which is doubtful).
>From Luke 20 verses 9 through 16:
HE went on to tell the people this parable: "A man planted a vineyard,
rented it to some farmers and went away for a long time. At harvest
time he sent a servant to the tenants so they would give him some of
the fruit of the vineyard. But the tenants beat him and sent him away
empty-handed. He sent another servant, but that one also they beat and
treated shamefully and sent away empty-handed. He sent still a third,
and they wounded him and threw him out.
"Then the owner of the vineyard said, 'What shall I do? I will send my
son, whom I love; perhaps they will respect him.'
"But when the tenants saw him, they talked the matter over. 'This is
the heir,' they said. 'Let's kill him, and the inheritance will be
ours.' So they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.
"What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? He will come and
kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others."
Amen and amen ! ! !
May GOD continue to bless the writing of HIS Word in these usenet
newsgroups in the holy name of HIS one and only Son, LORD Jesus Christ,
Who chose to suffer and die on the cross in order to save us from our
deadly sins.
Amen ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>> > >
>> > > Did not attempt exorcism.
>> > >
Wanna bet, Chung? Here's EXACTLY what you said:
"In the infinitely powerful and holy name of LORD Jesus Christ, I
command you, demon, to come out and leave Philip before our LORD
personally destroys you. "
Chung caught in a boldfaced lie!
WRONG.
Nobody alive now had anything to do with killing this "jesus".
Nobody alive now could have done anything to stop the killing of this
"jesus".
According to your myth, "god" WAS alive and able to intervene, so isn't he
the only one with any guilt concerning whatshisname's death? (Assuming any
of the myth is true, which is doubtful).
>> Nobody alive now could have done anything to stop the killing of this
>> "jesus".
>
> Nonetheless, GOD's anger burns as an unquenchable fire ready to
> incinerate those who refuse to acknowledge the sacrifice of HIS Son on
> their behalf.
How do you know this?
Do you know from voices in your head?
Yeah, it's too bad this omnipotent god couldn't forgive his creation
for being how he made it without inconveniencing himself for a couple
of days.
Please post objective, verifiable evidence for these assertions.
> Kurt Gavin wrote:
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
> > news:1149957666.0...@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > > Bretts' Ghost wrote:
> >
> > >> Dr. Chung,
> > >>
> > >> Did the earth exist 1E6 years ago?
> > >
> > > Don't know. Looking forward to when GOD will tell me sometime between
> > > now and the end of eternity.
> >
> > You mean your master supernatural being told you how he created life on
> > earth (speaking stuff into life or something), but didn't mention how old
> > the earth is?
>
> Since we killed HIS one and only begotten Son, GOD has been silent in
> HIS anger toward us even though HIS Son has overcome both the world and
> death, and now holds the keys to both death and hell.
How could humans kill a god?
"The discerning" don't need to invent imaginary stuff.
> Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire
"Only the truth can call others liars without becoming a hypocrite."
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Did not **attempt** exorcism.
**Emphasis** added.
> >> > >
> Wanna bet, Chung? Here's EXACTLY what you said:
>
> "In the infinitely powerful and holy name of LORD Jesus Christ, I
> command you, demon, to come out and leave Philip before our LORD
> personally destroys you. "
Yes, that was what the LORD compelled me to write after I prayed to HIM
to drive out Philip's demon.
> Chung caught in a boldfaced lie!
Sorry the LORD using a willing servant to drive out demons bothers you
so terribly. Please forgive all my iniquities.
To understand this, simply surf the link under my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Al.
>> > >
>> > > Did not attempt exorcism.
>> > >
Wanna bet, Chung? Here's EXACTLY what you said:
"In the infinitely powerful and holy name of LORD Jesus Christ, I
command you, demon, to come out and leave Philip before our LORD
personally destroys you. "
Later, when accused of performing some sort of exorcism,... he wimps out
and spouts "Such is the LORD's work"
Chung caught in a boldfaced lie! Game over.
>
> "Only the truth can call others liars without becoming a hypocrite."
>
The bible promises miracles.
the miracles as promised don't happen.
The bible lies.
Truth wins, bible loses.
THE BIBLE, CHRISTIANS, AND MIRACLES
- AN ATHEIST MANIFESTO
*********************************************
Miracles. The bible promises we can work big
miracles. One either can or one cannot. No one
can.
Why?
1. Either the bible is untrue and the writers who
put these promises in the mouth of Jesus were
liars and idle tellers of tall tales, and
pious frauds.
or...
2. These promises are true and only real
Christians can work great miracles as promised
and those who can work no miracles are not
real Christians. Faux Christians at best.
True Christians are obviously extremely rare
at best
But if #2, then we should ignore all those who
cannot do miracles because they are obviously not
real Christians and can at best mislead us and
at best make us as one of them, false Christians,
probably damned if Matthew 7 is true. They can at
best teach us to become pseudo-Christians unable
to work miracles as they who cannot themselves
work miracles. They have nothing to teach us.
We then should as the only intelligent thing to
do, pay attention only to real Christians, those
who can as per Jesus's words, work great and
obvious miracles. Therefore, It is logical to pay
no attention to any self proclaimed Christian who
cannot work large, obvious miracles.
If no such Great miracle working Christians
exist, its most likely that #1 is true, the bible
lies, anonymous fools wrote stupid falsehoods.
So from now on, Christians, if you can't work the
promised big miracles, shut up. You have no right
to speak. You are not really a Christian. If you
cannot work the great miracles as promised, and
cannot point to those who demonstrably can now,
nothing you say is of value.
THE BIG MIRACLE PROMISES OF THE BIBLE
THE WORDS OF JESUS.
********************************************
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do; because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith. Therefore I say unto you, What
things soever ye desire, when ye pray,
believe ye receive them and ye shall have
them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two of you
shall agree on earth as touching anything
that they shall ask, it shall be done for
them of my father which is in heaven. For
where two or three are gathered in my name,
there I am in the midst of them.
***********************************************
--
"I used to think the brain was the most fascinating part
of the body. Then I thought, "Look what's telling me
that."
- Emo Phillips
Cheerful Charlie
You remind me of the ostrich who has stuck its head in the sand
believing that the lion that was approaching no longer exists.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear William.
You remind me of the crazy man who is certain his delusions are
reality, and cannot be convinced otherwise despite the overwhelming
evidence to the contrary.
Even when Andy admits he's lied, he's compelled to lie about it.
>wbarwell wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >
>> > "Only the truth can call others liars without becoming a hypocrite."
>>
>> The bible promises miracles.
>> the miracles as promised don't happen.
>> The bible lies.
>
>You remind me of the ostrich who has stuck its head in the sand
>believing that the lion that was approaching no longer exists.
How odd.
Christians stick their heads in the sand and ignore reality. They
get eaten while atheists run for cover.
Works for me. Personally, I wish all you superstitious idiots were
gone or dead so decent people could live in peace.
You have nothing. That's why you're the problem.
(now give your usual reply... IMPRESS ME!)
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Actually, our relationship with Christ gives us the courage to look at
death straight on without the blinders. HE overcame the world and
death, personally for us and now has the keys to both death and hell
and so we who follow HIM are fearless.
> They get eaten while atheists run for cover.
Yes, atheists are natural cowards.
> Works for me. Personally, I wish all you superstitious idiots were
> gone or dead so decent people could live in peace.
You still remind me of that ostrich.
> You have nothing. That's why you're the problem.
Actually, if the LORD gave me nothing, I would not be here.
> (now give your usual reply... IMPRESS ME!)
The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not the garner any
glory for myself but for HIM.
If this impresses you, please give all praise to GOD, Whom I love with
all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Steve.
Btw, it has been reported that Philip's demon has said your cat is 5
years old and is named Lord Buddha.
Still praying for your endangered soul, dear JessHC.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
> Warlord Steve
> BAAWA
Reported by who? Oops, you're either lying about what Philips demon
said, or you're lying about Philip having a demon. You know what Jebus
says about lying.
> Still praying for your endangered soul, dear JessHC.
Pray for the return of your sanity. Pray for the correct name and age
of my cat. Oh, and gender; at least you'd have an even chance at
guessing that, and I've already given you a clue.
Pathological lying is a common ailment for christians like Andy. Lying to
oneself is the only way to resolve the contradictions, logical fallacies,
and other fundamental problems with bible. Once one starts believing your
own lies, then it doesn't take much to continue to lie. Christianity is a
disease and it should be treated as such.
Philip.
Interesting that you do not refute it by stating a correct age and
name.
Still praying for your endangered soul, dear JessHC.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
>"Only the truth can call others liars without becoming a hypocrite."
>"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
And as I've pointed out several times, Jesus was not talking about truth
as facticity, opposite to falsehood, but about trustworthiness or
reliability, as in true love, true friendship. It makes a difference in
the whole interpretation. You might want to actually **study** these
things some time.
And as others have pointed out, this is John's version, which is
generally regarded as being much more polemic and didactic, less
interested in historical fact, than the other gospels.
--
Don Kirkman
Chung said that Philip's demon is now saying that *Steve's cat is 5
years old and is called Lord Buddha. We have just been given a near
unique insight into the hucksterism of 'clairvoyance', as well as the
nasty sociopathic malevolence of Andrew B'Chung, Klingon cook, failed
Cardiologist and purveyor of the galaxy's finest lame excuses.
<snip>
>
> Chung said that Philip's demon is now saying that *Steve's cat is 5
> years old and is called Lord Buddha.
No. That would be JessHC's and not Steve's cat.
Sorry for your being confused. Please forgive all my iniquities.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
Still praying for you endangered soul, dear neighbor.
>You remind me of the ostrich who has stuck its head in the sand
>believing that the lion that was approaching no longer exists.
So you believe in that old wives' tale, too? lol
Pliny the Elder did say ostriches hide their heads in bushes, but nobody
seems to have documented the hiding in the sand. Since they feed low to
the ground, from a distance it may appear that the head has disappeared
into the sand at times. But that wouldn't make such a neat parable, I
guess.
--
Don Kirkman
>JessHC wrote:
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> > Btw, it has been reported that Philip's demon has said your cat is 5
>> > years old and is named Lord Buddha.
>> Reported by who?
>Philip.
>Interesting that you do not refute it by stating a correct age and
>name.
That sounds like a good approach. Now, when can we see your peer
reviewed studies on the 2PoundDiet?
--
Don Kirkman
It is an observation.
> Now, when can we see your peer
> reviewed studies on the 2PoundDiet?
You will see the peer-reviewed study on the 2PD-OMER Approach when the
LORD wills it. Yes, your soul is impoverised.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Don.
>Stephen Knight wrote:
>> On 11 Jun 2006 19:50:00 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> <nos...@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
>> >wbarwell wrote:
>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > "Only the truth can call others liars without becoming a hypocrite."
>> >>
>> >> The bible promises miracles.
>> >> the miracles as promised don't happen.
>> >> The bible lies.
>> >
>> >You remind me of the ostrich who has stuck its head in the sand
>> >believing that the lion that was approaching no longer exists.
>>
>> How odd.
>>
>> Christians stick their heads in the sand and ignore reality.
>
>Actually, our relationship with Christ gives us the courage to look at
>death straight on without the blinders.
> HE overcame the world and
>death, personally for us and now has the keys to both death and hell
>and so we who follow HIM are fearless.
>
'HE overcame' the world? Like it was a task? Like he had to make an
effort?
LOL
>> They get eaten while atheists run for cover.
>
>Yes, atheists are natural cowards.
'Natural'? You mean you god made us that way?
What's the score, Dung? How many of us have you converted?
By now you should have some bragging rights.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Hey, Al..I found the post so you can cite it.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/758cb0ef457c46b1?dmode=source
> Later, when accused of performing some sort of exorcism,... he wimps out
> and spouts "Such is the LORD's work"
Oh, he couldn't take a shit without claiming it's the LORD's blessing
upon his colon.
> Chung caught in a boldfaced lie! Game over.
I wonder if the man is sane enough to realize it. He may be crazy
enough to actually beleive what he's saying. What a strange little
world that man lives in. It'd be better than mescaline if you could
control when it turns on and off.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Yes.
> Like it was a task?
Yes.
> Like he had to make an effort?
It was HIS choice.
> LOL
"Written laughter is silent despair."
> >> They get eaten while atheists run for cover.
> >
> >Yes, atheists are natural cowards.
>
> 'Natural'? You mean you god made us that way?
No. It is the natural result of your choice.
> What's the score, Dung?
This is not a game for me.
> How many of us have you converted?
The LORD' s purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either
convince or to convert.
> By now you should have some bragging rights.
Bragging is not my style.
To understand this simply surf the link below my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Steve.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
I have nothing of value to add to this thread. Just wanted to let you
know someone enjoyed the Maradona joke, even if you *did* call my team
"god's team". 0-3 to the Czecks. I'm dreading that Italy game. <g>
No, your delusion lets you pretend you won't really die.
> > They get eaten while atheists run for cover.
>
> Yes, atheists are natural cowards.
Yes, it's certainly cowardly to face reality.
> > Works for me. Personally, I wish all you superstitious idiots were
> > gone or dead so decent people could live in peace.
>
> You still remind me of that ostrich.
The one with its head in the sand, screaming "There is TOO a god!"?
> > You have nothing. That's why you're the problem.
>
> Actually, if the LORD gave me nothing, I would not be here.
Still no objective, verifiable evidence this "LORD" exists.
> > (now give your usual reply... IMPRESS ME!)
>
> The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not the garner any
> glory for myself but for HIM.
Why is he telling you to disobey his orders in the bible?
Golly, why didn't he post that information himself?
> Interesting that you do not refute it by stating a correct age and
> name.
Even more interesting that you have to lie rather than admit you
guessed wrong.
No, it's a lie. Making a claim you know isn't true is called lying.
> > Now, when can we see your peer
> > reviewed studies on the 2PoundDiet?
>
> You will see the peer-reviewed study on the 2PD-OMER Approach when the
> LORD wills it. Yes, your soul is impoverised.
Rrrriiiiggghhhttt.
Present objective, verifiable evidence, or admit you're lying.