Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 11/09/08
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
Citizen Jimserac
I respectfully request that you stop spamming this newsgroup.
Thanks
Citizen Jimserac
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/686da0ff3bd0308a?
>
> I see NOTHING in your post regarding Alternative Medicine.
Sad to read about your being stricken blind.
May GOD heal you so that you can see that He remains the Alternative
to medication, in Jesus' name.
Amen.
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
RF
It's not just in this group. This pest hawks his
non-existent holy ghost everywhere.
Halloween is a year-round thing for him :-)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c5c55fcace06864?
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
In addition to your lack of respect for the other posters,
I did NOT like that smart remark about being "stricken blind".
It would appear that behind the "benevolent spiritual" doctor
"concerned"
about hunger lies an ARROGANT ASSHOLE.
How dare you use biblical references and references to God
as part of your propaganda campaign.
DON'T YOU DARE THREATEN ANYONE - NOT IN THE NAME OF GOD
NOR OF ANYONE ELSE
FUCK YOU "DR." CHUNG, YOU ARROGANT ASSHOLE.
Citizen Jimserac
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>>
>
>In addition to your lack of respect for the other posters,
>I did NOT like that smart remark about being "stricken blind".
>
>It would appear that behind the "benevolent spiritual" doctor
>"concerned"
>about hunger lies an ARROGANT ASSHOLE.
>
>How dare you use biblical references and references to God
>as part of your propaganda campaign.
>
>DON'T YOU DARE THREATEN ANYONE - NOT IN THE NAME OF GOD
>NOR OF ANYONE ELSE
>
>FUCK YOU "DR." CHUNG, YOU ARROGANT ASSHOLE.
Your false witness and name-calling is forgiven by me.
We, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), are neither perfect
nor more special ...
... just forgiven:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven
1 cross
3 nails
4-given :-)
May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
You're not an MD are you because if you are
do you even have a clue that your posting
of misleading and dangerous medical information
can, in my opinion, lead to DEATH or serious injury -
for example you apparently are suggesting
a form of dieting which could be DANGEROUS
for recovering anorexics and equaly dangerous
to people with hypoglycemia.
Do you realize that someone could place
a formal complaint to the AMA against you
or else bring a malpractice lawsuit?
Is that what the purpose of the religious bullshit you include
is for ? You think that it is going to protect you from lawsuits
or censure by claiming free speech opinion?
You are are seriously mixed up person, unable
to rationally explain your positions and again I say
that your comments do NOT involve alternative medicine
and DO NOT belong in this newsgroup.
Your attempt to gain credibility and attention with
religious references is nothing short of a DISGRACE.
In addition I stand by my opinion that in order for you
to make these continual postings and relgious references
is an act of complete arrogance and your postings'
over generalizations and ineptitude in adderessing
possible exceptions to your medical advice
may make you ethically and possibliy even
criminally liable.
I again urge to post only to the appropriate newsgroups
and show some respect for everyone else,
even if you have, understandably, none for yourself.
Citizen Jimserac
marcia
He actually is an M.D. (attended Emory, I believe). One can be both a
physician and psychotic at the same time; the two are not mutually
exclusive.
If you keep pestering him, you will soon become "Convicted Neighbor
Citizen Jimserac."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Moreover, am a board-certified cardiologist with a medical license
that has been active since 1995.
> One can be both a
>physician and psychotic at the same time;
Not while maintaining an active medical license.
> the two are not mutually exclusive.
See above.
>If you keep pestering him, you will soon become "Convicted Neighbor
>Citizen Jimserac."
The compulsion to bear false witness and engage in name-calling
indicates the Holy Spirit has already convicted him:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful:
It's how we know what GOD desires (WDJW):
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
A simple parable for the wise and discerning:
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
> marcia <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >He actually is an M.D. (attended Emory, I believe).
>
> Moreover, am a board-certified cardiologist with a medical license
> that has been active since 1995.
>
> > One can be both a
> >physician and psychotic at the same time;
>
YOU NEED TO PUT A DISCLAIMER AT THE END OF YOUR NONSENSE
THAT YOUR DIETARY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE - FAILING THAT YOU LEAVE
YOURSELF OPEN TO A LETTER OF COMPLAINT FROM SOMEONE
TO THE AMA OR ELSE SERIOUS INJURY TO A RECOVEIRNG ANOREXIC
OR HYPOGLYCEMIC OR PERSON WITH SOME OTHER DISORDER
THAT WOULD BE SERIOUSLY INJURED IN FOLLOWING YOUR "ADVICE".
Citizen Jimserac
Citizen Jimserac
I originally thought the guy was just making some good spiritual
statements but it is far more sinister than that, apparently.
The ARROGANCE of someone like that I find revolting.
Citizen Jimserac
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> marcia <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >He actually is an M.D. (attended Emory, I believe).
>>
>> Moreover, am a board-certified cardiologist with a medical license
>> that has been active since 1995.
>>
>
>THAT YOUR DIETARY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
>CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE
Have not made any dietary suggestions.
Moreover, eating an optimal amount is appropriate for all people.
Truth is simple.
This righteousness is from GOD, Who is the truth, and is not
arrogance.
Suggested reading for others following this thread of written
discussion:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Meanwhile, may we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile),
continue to pray for your perishing soul, dear Citizen Jimserac:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4ffdbf4f517103d0?
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
> convicted neighbor CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> marcia <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >He actually is an M.D. (attended Emory, I believe).
>
> >> Moreover, am a board-certified cardiologist with a medical license
> >> that has been active since 1995.
>
> > YOU NEED TO PUT A DISCLAIMER AT THE END OF YOUR NONSENSE
> >THAT YOUR DIETARY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
> >CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE
>
> Have not made any dietary suggestions.
>
You haven't?
> Moreover, eating an optimal amount is appropriate for all people.
Wow, and this from an MD.
Communication with this poster.....TERMINATED.
Citizen Jimserac
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >> marcia <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> >He actually is an M.D. (attended Emory, I believe).
> >
> > >> Moreover, am a board-certified cardiologist with a medical license
> > >> that has been active since 1995.
> >
> > > YOU NEED TO PUT A DISCLAIMER AT THE END OF YOUR NONSENSE
> > >THAT YOUR DIETARY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
> > >CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE
> >
> > Have not made any dietary suggestions.
>
> You haven't?
No.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a7141ac3ac967fc5?
May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul, dear neighbor:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4ffdbf4f517103d0?
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
>
> Meanwhile, may we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile),
> continue to pray for your perishing soul, dear CitizenJimserac:
For my PERISHING SOUL???
Again you demonstrate an UNCHRISTIAN ARROGANCE
WHICH I FIND INSULTING AND DEMEANING.
YOU'RE QUITE A PIECE OF WORK AREN'T YOU.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW MY SOUL IS PERISHING
AND TO MAKE SUCH A JUDGEMENT, DOES THAT NOT LEAVE
YOU IN THE REALM OF UTTER ARROGANCE.
DID YOU EVER HEAR THIS: "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED"
OR HOW ABOUT THIS, "HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE"?
NOW LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING -> I BELIEVE YOUR ARROGANCE
HAS ALLOWED THE DEVIL TO POSSESS YOUR SOUL AND BLINDED
YOU WITH SELF IMPORTANCE AND OVERCONFIDENCE.
WOULD YOU LIKE SOME INFORMATION ON EXORCISMS
IN ORDER TO CLEANSE YOUR MIND AND SOUL OF THIS
OVERWEENING ARROGANCE WHICH SUCKS THE LIFE
OUT OF YOU AND COMPELS YOU TO POST, ADVERTISING
YOUR ARROGANCE TO ALL AND ALL CAN SEE IT BUT YE?
REPENT
SINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REPENT.
Citizen Jimserac
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
>>
>> Meanwhile, may we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile),
>> continue to pray for your perishing soul, dear Citizen Jimserac:
>
>For my PERISHING SOUL???
Yes.
>Again you demonstrate an UNCHRISTIAN ARROGANCE
>WHICH I FIND INSULTING AND DEMEANING.
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>YOU'RE QUITE A PIECE OF WORK AREN'T YOU.
>
>HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW MY SOUL IS PERISHING
>AND TO MAKE SUCH A JUDGEMENT, DOES THAT NOT LEAVE
>YOU IN THE REALM OF UTTER ARROGANCE.
Observation is not judgment.
Your false witness is again forgiven by me.
This simply shows yet again that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right
to convict you...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
... as He has convicted others:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Convicts
May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul, dear neighbor
Jimserac:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForJimserac
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
>
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
>
> Observation is not judgment.
Buddy, let me tell you something - if you draw conclusions about MY
soul
from a few internet postings than you are an idiot and an arrogant one
at that.
For all I know, these postings ticking people off is your way of
having
some spare time laughs.
And NOW, since you are here in misc.health.alternative, I HAVE SOME
QUESTIONS FOR YOU -
MEDICAL QUESTIONS. If you really are an MD and you persist in showing
up in
this newsgroup, it is time to put YOUR KNOWLEDGE, if any, to work.
Will just skip over your complete religious ignorance and unGodly
subsitituion of biblical
and religious links for thinking which demeans your God given mind.
Are you aware of alternative therapies for chronic Heart problems?
Specifically, have you researched Homeopathy, Acupuncture, Chinese
patent medicines and Herbology
and do you have any opinions regarding these systems of medicine?
Thanks
Citizen Jimserac
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >
> > Observation is not judgment.
>
> Buddy, let me tell you something - if you draw conclusions about MY
Conclusions about your soul would not occur until after death either
of your body or your soul.
Truth is simple.
Meanwhile, may we who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue
to be mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4df5f2fc5633b957?
<><
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
Citizen Jimserac
wrote:
...
Chung, I checked out your website - it is not bad
and there IS some good information there.
I repeat my question here:
Are you aware of alternative therapies for chronic Heart problems?
Specifically, have you researched Homeopathy, Acupuncture, Chinese
patent medicines and Herbology
and do you have any opinions regarding these systems of medicine?
I no longer expect an answer.
I've decided to give you the benefit of the doubt here
so I will withold any criticism - since that web site
has a lot of useful information, I will assume that some
constraint real or imagined prevents you from replying in a normal
manner.
Critical opinion of Chung, rescinded .... for now.
Citizen Jimserac
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> ...
>
> Chung, I checked out your website - it is not bad
> and there IS some good information there.
>
> I repeat my question here:
> Are you aware of alternative therapies for chronic Heart problems?
Yes.
> Specifically, have you researched Homeopathy, Acupuncture, Chinese
> patent medicines and Herbology
> and do you have any opinions regarding these systems of medicine?
GOD has called me to address the cause of chronic heart problems with
the understanding that when the cause is addressed cures are achieved:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
> I no longer expect an answer.
See above.
Meanwhile, you remain in my prayers, dear neighbor Jimserac:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4df5f2fc5633b957?
"It remains unwise to gain the world in exchange for ones soul."
<><
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43acbc5ea248ceee?
Tiger_Lily
start there......... it appears that they now will accept annonymous
complaints as well, but caution there are 'limitations' by doing that
Citizen Jimserac
> CitizenJimseracwrote:
> > On Nov 21, 11:28 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu>
> > wrote:
> >> marcia <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> He actually is an M.D. (attended Emory, I believe).
> >> Moreover, am a board-certified cardiologist with a medical license
> >> that has been active since 1995.
>
> >>> One can be both a
> >>> physician and psychotic at the same time;
>
> > YOU NEED TO PUT A DISCLAIMER AT THE END OF YOUR NONSENSE
> > THAT YOUR DIETARY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
> > CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE - FAILING THAT YOU LEAVE
> > YOURSELF OPEN TO A LETTER OF COMPLAINT FROM SOMEONE
> > TO THE AMA OR ELSE SERIOUS INJURY TO A RECOVEIRNG ANOREXIC
> > OR HYPOGLYCEMIC OR PERSON WITH SOME OTHER DISORDER
> > THAT WOULD BE SERIOUSLY INJURED IN FOLLOWING YOUR "ADVICE".
>
> > CitizenJimserac
>
>
> start there......... it appears that they now will accept annonymous
> complaints as well, but caution there are 'limitations' by doing that
No.
I reviewed some of Chung's past postings when he actually
did discuss medical issues and some of his comments were quite good.
Likewise his web site contains a lot of interesting information - that
does not
mean I agree with any or all of it but it appears of interest much of
it
voluminous and well done.
I have rescinded my critical comments about Chung
and will return to my original impression that he is just
a deeply spiritual person but is unwilling or unable
to elaborate on his positions for whatever reason, perhaps
too busy with his work.
Therefore, there can be no expectation of a detailed response
from him and we must accept the cryptic links and one word
responses as all that he can give us at this time.
As his intent seems beneficent and noble, despite the cryptic
nature of some of it, his postings, even to inappropriate
newsgroups, must be condoned.
Citizen Jimserac
Don Kirkman
article
<26c47ae3-8f4d-41ad...@d32g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>:
>On Nov 22, 9:08 pm, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> CitizenJimseracwrote:
>> > On Nov 21, 11:28 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >> marcia <marcia1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> He actually is an M.D. (attended Emory, I believe).
>> >> Moreover, am a board-certified cardiologist with a medical license
>> >> that has been active since 1995.
>> >>> One can be both a
>> >>> physician and psychotic at the same time;
>> > YOU NEED TO PUT A DISCLAIMER AT THE END OF YOUR NONSENSE
>> > THAT YOUR DIETARY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
>> > CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE - FAILING THAT YOU LEAVE
>> > YOURSELF OPEN TO A LETTER OF COMPLAINT FROM SOMEONE
>> > TO THE AMA OR ELSE SERIOUS INJURY TO A RECOVEIRNG ANOREXIC
>> > OR HYPOGLYCEMIC OR PERSON WITH SOME OTHER DISORDER
>> > THAT WOULD BE SERIOUSLY INJURED IN FOLLOWING YOUR "ADVICE".
>> http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/00/channel_title/0,2094,26729866_2751...
>> start there......... it appears that they now will accept annonymous
>> complaints as well, but caution there are 'limitations' by doing that
>No.
>I reviewed some of Chung's past postings when he actually
>did discuss medical issues and some of his comments were quite good.
You need to understand the chronology, though. Around 2001 or so he
was posting a lot of scientifically supported information and
suggestions; IMO much of it paralleled what my own highly prized
cardiologist was telling me. The religious material was there, but
was still relatively close to the beliefs of a number of Christian
groups. Within a couple of years, though, he had essentially
abandoned science and his relatively orthodox Christianity, and with
each passing year it's gotten worse.
>Likewise his web site contains a lot of interesting information - that
>does not
>mean I agree with any or all of it but it appears of interest much of
>it
>voluminous and well done.
As a rule of thumb, the medical information was posted back when he
was still discussing cardio matters rationally and with a modicum of
concern for those who asked about medical issues.
In general, if you look around the site you will find that his more
recent updates run to behavior like posting a long list of "convicts,"
"satan," and "demons," his opinion of readers who oppose his behavior
and his beliefs regardless of many requests that he allow smc readers
to use the group for medical discussion, or to pop science level
medical opinions.
>I have rescinded my critical comments about Chung
>and will return to my original impression that he is just
>a deeply spiritual person but is unwilling or unable
>to elaborate on his positions for whatever reason, perhaps
>too busy with his work.
No one seems able to document that he has a job in medicine or an
active practice.
>Therefore, there can be no expectation of a detailed response
>from him and we must accept the cryptic links and one word
>responses as all that he can give us at this time.
>
>As his intent seems beneficent and noble, despite the cryptic
>nature of some of it, his postings, even to inappropriate
>newsgroups, must be condoned.
I'm afraid you are in the long-suffering minority on this issue. :-)
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net