You have an immortal soul.
Love resides in the heart of your soul.
If you have ever loved another with your heart, such as your mom, your
dad, your sibling(s), your spouse, or your child(ren), you know you
have a soul.
There is only one GOD, Who is the Author of all reality.
HE has given each of us the free will to choose to either obey HIM by
doing that which is right or not. Without the free will, there would
be no love in our hearts for us to be aware that we have souls.
Disobeying GOD by not doing that which is right is sin.
Just as ignorance of speed limit postings is not an acceptable excuse
for speeding, ignorance of what is right will not be an acceptable
excuse for sinning.
Just as the price for speeding is expensive, the price for sinning
will be expensive in that it will be a death sentence for your
otherwise immortal soul. The gradual deterioration of our bodies as
we continue to do that which is not right serves to remind us of the
ultimate penalty of death for our souls.
This latter penalty in isolation is extreme and harsh and not
befitting GOD, Whom I know most assuredly, without doubt, to be kind,
just, and right.
GOD's kindness here is manifest in the infinite mercy HE has shown us
by allowing HIS one and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ, to
suffer terribly and die horribly on the cross in our place as full
payment for our deadly sins:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ have accordingly been saved not
because of being either perfect or more special...
... but simply because we have been forgiven by GOD:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
Here is the way for you to also be forgiven by GOD:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
How could he???!!!! That pig ignorant BASTARD!!! How could he???!!!!
L.Roberts
aa # 2258
aw Hellboy # 13
Member Andy's 666 Club
>
> http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
>
> Here is the way for you to also be forgiven by GOD:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
HE is able.
> That pig ignorant BASTARD!!!
Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> How could he???!!!!
HE is simply able.
May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Why should I believe that?
--
Denis Loubet
dlo...@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
If you follow Andrew's track record, you should run screaming from all
of his claims.
The same reason a blind person should believe s/he has a body even
though s/he is unable to see her/his body.
Truth is simple.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
They believe they have a body because they can feel it, in addition to their
kinesthetic sense.
I do not feel any immortal soul, nor have any kinesthetic sense of one.
Why should I believe you when you claim I have an immortal soul?
I'm not your friend.
> You have an immortal soul.
Assertion without evidence.
> Love resides in the heart of your soul.
Nonsense. Pure assertion.
> If you have ever loved another with your heart, such as your mom, your
> dad, your sibling(s), your spouse, or your child(ren), you know you
> have a soul.
Nope. Pure assertion. And what about *hating* them because they abused
you? It could not contravene that "soul" thing either.
> There is only one GOD, Who is the Author of all reality.
Baseless assertion.
> HE has given each of us the free will to choose to either obey HIM by
> doing that which is right or not. Without the free will, there would
> be no love in our hearts for us to be aware that we have souls.
You're spouting nonsense again, Chung.
> Disobeying GOD by not doing that which is right is sin.
Define "right", fraud.
> Just as ignorance of speed limit postings is not an acceptable excuse
> for speeding, ignorance of what is right will not be an acceptable
> excuse for sinning.
Assertions again. Define "right", trolling fraud.
> Just as the price for speeding is expensive, the price for sinning
> will be expensive in that it will be a death sentence for your
> otherwise immortal soul. The gradual deterioration of our bodies as
> we continue to do that which is not right serves to remind us of the
> ultimate penalty of death for our souls.
Assertions again.
> This latter penalty in isolation is extreme and harsh and not
> befitting GOD, Whom I know most assuredly, without doubt, to be kind,
> just, and right.
This "god" concept of you xians is anything but "kind, just, and
right." Your "god" concept is that of a megalomaniac, egotistical mass
murderer.
> GOD's kindness
What "kindness"? This mythological critter of yours destroyed its
"creation" a few times.
> here is manifest in the infinite mercy HE has shown us
> by allowing HIS one and only begotten Son, LORD Jesus Christ, to
> suffer terribly and die
According to you, "jesus" never died. Make up your mind, if you have
any.
> horribly on the cross in our place as full
> payment for our deadly sins:
It did not work, now did it?
Olrik
<snip immoral sig>
Similarly, they believe they have a soul because they can feel the
love that is in the heart of their soul.
> I do not feel any immortal soul, nor have any kinesthetic sense of one.
You feel the love that is in the heart of your soul.
> Why should I believe you when you claim I have an immortal soul?
You know you have an immortal soul when you feel the heart of your
soul break when you suffer loss of something or someone who is dear to
you.
Moreover, you know you have an immortal soul whenever you have a
compulsion coming from the heart of your soul that leads you to do
something that you know you should not do and yet you end up still
doing it.
Did not write that you were.
> > You have an immortal soul.
>
> Assertion without evidence.
Common knowledge.
> > Love resides in the heart of your soul.
>
> Nonsense. Pure assertion.
Again, common knowledge.
Simply ask the women in your life.
> > If you have ever loved another with your heart, such as your mom, your
> > dad, your sibling(s), your spouse, or your child(ren), you know you
> > have a soul.
>
> Nope. Pure assertion.
Sad to read that there has been no love in your life.
> And what about *hating* them because they abused
> you?
That also comes from the heart of your soul, albeit a poisoned heart.
> It could not contravene that "soul" thing either.
It would be a sign of a sick soul.
> > There is only one GOD, Who is the Author of all reality.
>
> Baseless assertion.
Simply fact.
> > HE has given each of us the free will to choose to either obey HIM by
> > doing that which is right or not. Without the free will, there would
> > be no love in our hearts for us to be aware that we have souls.
>
> You're spouting nonsense again, Chung.
Sad to read that love is nonsense to you.
My condolences to those who love you.
> > Disobeying GOD by not doing that which is right is sin.
>
> Define "right", fraud.
Name-calling is the opposite of right and simply shows that the Holy
Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Dear enemy
(sorry but I have previously pointed out to you, that saying you are
praying for me, has been proven to be bad for my health, if you keep
on doing it, you are being purpously hostile)
I do not have anything immortal,
but I do love you my enemy!
As I still love my wife,
I am very aware that I am doing this with my brain.
Scientist have already discovered what chemical compound caused me to
be so very existed about here around the time of our marriage and
psychologists have been studying, why I will or will not keep loving
het in the future.
The number of Gods is aproximately zero.
Sorry, but ignorance is a morally acceptable excuse for speeding,
in may not be a legal excuse, but morally it is a very good one.
Obeying an allmighty tyrant is not moral,
Morally, one should only do what an allmighty tyrant says if it is
morally acceptable.
That is the trait of martyrs: Defying tyrants when it is morally right
to do so.
If an allmighty tyrant is a kind person,
he will love and cherish those who put morality before his whishes.
So be good, for goodness sake!
Peter van Velzen
September 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
"Olrik" <olri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191132548.3...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
You said "same reason", but since the tactile and kinesthetic senses are not
utilized in this soul detection, it's clearly not the same reason.
So, what senses are utilized in this "feel the love that is in the heart of
their soul" process.
>> I do not feel any immortal soul, nor have any kinesthetic sense of one.
>
> You feel the love that is in the heart of your soul.
No. If I felt such a thing, I would be more inclined to believe you. I feel
no such thing, and so I don't.
>> Why should I believe you when you claim I have an immortal soul?
>
> You know you have an immortal soul when you feel the heart of your
> soul break when you suffer loss of something or someone who is dear to
> you.
No. I feel loss, and tightness in my chest. This in no way suggests a soul.
> Moreover, you know you have an immortal soul whenever you have a
> compulsion coming from the heart of your soul that leads you to do
> something that you know you should not do and yet you end up still
> doing it.
No. There is nothing in that description that suggests a soul other than
your bland assumption.
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
No.
No fucking god could be that fucking stupid, stupid, not even your's
fuckhead. If there really were any such fucking fuckwad as that
Quistian bible character, it couldn't fucking be so pig ignorant a
bastard as to forgive you fucking disgusting bunch of fucking
scumbagious half-stepping, double dipping, fuckliciously obsequious,
fucking blatantly two-faced, stupidly self decieving, depressingly
depraved bastards! It just couldn't.
btw My mother says you are going to hell.
L.Roberts
aa # 2258
aw Hellboy # 13
Member Andy's 666 Club
>
> May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
> your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Just as a blind person would have reason to believe s/he has a body
that s/he senses, a seeing person would have reason to believe s/he
has a soul that s/he senses.
> So, what senses are utilized in this "feel the love that is in the heart of
> their soul" process.
Spiritual.
> >> I do not feel any immortal soul, nor have any kinesthetic sense of one.
> >
> > You feel the love that is in the heart of your soul.
>
> No. If I felt such a thing, I would be more inclined to believe you. I feel
> no such thing, and so I don't.
Sad to read that you have not felt the love that is in the heart of
your soul.
> >> Why should I believe you when you claim I have an immortal soul?
> >
> > You know you have an immortal soul when you feel the heart of your
> > soul break when you suffer loss of something or someone who is dear to
> > you.
>
> No. I feel loss, and tightness in my chest. This in no way suggests a soul.
The feeling of loss comes from the heart of your soul.
If the loss were severe breaking the heart of your soul, the heart of
your body may possibly fail so that a coroner after determining that
nothing was physically wrong with the heart of your body, may list
"broken heart syndrome" as your cause of death.
> > Moreover, you know you have an immortal soul whenever you have a
> > compulsion coming from the heart of your soul that leads you to do
> > something that you know you should not do and yet you end up still
> > doing it.
>
> No. There is nothing in that description that suggests a soul other than
> your bland assumption.
It is common knowledge that a "change of heart" is what is required to
overcome a compulsion rather than a "change of mind."
> > Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> No.
You have the free will that GOD has generously given to you to refuse
the good things in your life.
May GOD still bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier
(hungrier) than ever:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/PressRelease
>It is common knowledge that a "change of heart" is what is required to
>overcome a compulsion rather than a "change of mind."
It is also common knowledge that in ancient belief the heart was the
seat of intellect and thought processes, which is precisely "the mind".
You really should read up on at least of few of these matters before you
mislead people with them.
"The word 'heart,' however, must be understood in the biblical sense,
namely of men's thoughts and ideas, not of their feelings and emotions.
The expression, 'a hard heart,' is equivalent to the modern expressions
'headstrong,' 'self-willed.'
Abingdon Bible Commentary, p. 352
Lagniappe:
"Omer. A measure for dry articles. It contained a 10th part of an
ephah (Ex. 16:36). . . . The omer contained 3.36 quart."
Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, p. 440.
--
Don Kirkman
It is written that we are to love GOD with our hearts, souls, minds,
and strengths (Mark 12:30).
This indicates that the heart of the soul is distinct from the mind of
the body/strength.
> You really should read up on at least of few of these matters before you
> mislead people with them.
Sola Scriptura cum Spiritus Sancti.
> "The word 'heart,' however, must be understood in the biblical sense,
> namely of men's thoughts and ideas, not of their feelings and emotions.
> The expression, 'a hard heart,' is equivalent to the modern expressions
> 'headstrong,' 'self-willed.'
> Abingdon Bible Commentary, p. 352
The heart described in Mark 12:30 is clearly the heart of the soul and
not the mind.
> Lagniappe:
> "Omer. A measure for dry articles. It contained a 10th part of an
> ephah (Ex. 16:36). . . . The omer contained 3.36 quart."
> Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, p. 440.
Manna was directly edible food rather than dry inedible grain so that
an omer of manna is a different measure, one of weight rather than
volume.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >It is common knowledge that a "change of heart" is what is required to
>> >overcome a compulsion rather than a "change of mind."
>> It is also common knowledge that in ancient belief the heart was the
>> seat of intellect and thought processes, which is precisely "the mind".
>It is written that we are to love GOD with our hearts, souls, minds,
>and strengths (Mark 12:30).
>This indicates that the heart of the soul is distinct from the mind of
>the body/strength.
No, this indicates that you don't understand the metaphorical
psychological and physiological constructs of the ancient Mediterranean
and Near Eastern cultures. Let's toss some more around: spleen, bile,
liver, "little mice" [muscles, from the Latin], lights [lungs].
Your supposition is trumped by what I wrote and you deleted:
"The word 'heart,' however, must be understood in the biblical sense,
namely of men's thoughts and ideas, not of their feelings and emotions.
The expression, 'a hard heart,' is equivalent to the modern expressions
'headstrong,' 'self-willed.'
Abingdon Bible Commentary, p. 352
>> You really should read up on at least of few of these matters before you
>> mislead people with them.
>Sola Scriptura cum Spiritus Sancti.
I've already demolished that one in my reply which you've already read.
It's another of your fake quotes, faking the similar real motto from
early Christianity.
>> "The word 'heart,' however, must be understood in the biblical sense,
>> namely of men's thoughts and ideas, not of their feelings and emotions.
>> The expression, 'a hard heart,' is equivalent to the modern expressions
>> 'headstrong,' 'self-willed.'
>> Abingdon Bible Commentary, p. 352
>The heart described in Mark 12:30 is clearly the heart of the soul and
>not the mind.
Nowhere in the Bible will you find the soul described has having a mind.
Nor will you find that idea in classical theology or contemporary
psychology. The two are separate entities.
>> Lagniappe:
>> "Omer. A measure for dry articles. It contained a 10th part of an
>> ephah (Ex. 16:36). . . . The omer contained 3.36 quart."
>> Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, p. 440.
>Manna was directly edible food rather than dry inedible grain so that
>an omer of manna is a different measure, one of weight rather than
>volume.
Give us just one citation from any authority supporting this bleat that
you resort to when you are corrected. Repeating your own opinion
doesn't count as an authority. And needing to be boiled or baked still
doesn't show that manna was "directly edible."
--
Don Kirkman
(Your continued presence here would indicate that our prayers on your
behalf has not been bad for your health)
Bottom line:
You are untruthful.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
What the Holy Spirit has guided me to write logically follows from
what is written in Mark 12:30.
GOD is the Source of all knowledge and wisdom.
Would trust HIM infinitely more than trusting others.
Of course you should now, that if you answer people's honest replies
with "you are untruthfull", chances that people take you serious are
getting smaller.
If the holy spirit convicts me, I am sure, he will have the decency to
send me a signed copy of the verdict. As I haven't received it yet, I
suppose it is you who are giving false evidence.
Or am I mistaken, and doesn't the holy spirit have any decency?
Peter van Velzen
October 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
(Thus, our prayers on your behalf have not harmed you even according
to your false beliefs as you have falsely claimed).
Bottom line:
You remain pathologically untruthful.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly show this.
Laus Deo !
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
eyu...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Two days later and the psycho liar Chung hasn't yet answered you.
_______________________________________________
Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
As many as received Him, to them gave He power to
become the worst liars the world hath ever known,
even to them that believe on His name. (John 1:12)
Well, I just discovered myself that he did reply to me, in his
habitual dishonest way (i.e, creative snipping.)
Olrik
How dishonest of you. You started this thread with these few lines :
"Dear friend,
You have an immortal soul.
Love resides in the heart of your soul."
[...]
Since it was not addressed to anybody in particular, "Dear friend" is
thus for everybody. And I'm telling that I'm not your "friend". You're
just an insane, trollish fraud.
> > > You have an immortal soul.
>
> > Assertion without evidence.
>
> Common knowledge.
Harry Potter wears eyeglasses. Common knowledge.
> > > Love resides in the heart of your soul.
>
> > Nonsense. Pure assertion.
>
> Again, common knowledge.
Love (or any emotion) resides in our brains. And the "soul" is just
another word for our conscience.
> Simply ask the women in your life.
They concur with me.
> > > If you have ever loved another with your heart, such as your mom, your
> > > dad, your sibling(s), your spouse, or your child(ren), you know you
> > > have a soul.
>
> > Nope. Pure assertion.
>
> Sad to read that there has been no love in your life.
You are, as always, sadly mistaken.
> > And what about *hating* them because they abused
> > you?
>
> That also comes from the heart of your soul, albeit a poisoned heart.
>
> > It could not contravene that "soul" thing either.
>
> It would be a sign of a sick soul.
>
> > > There is only one GOD, Who is the Author of all reality.
>
> > Baseless assertion.
>
> Simply fact.
Baseless assertion. And you can't show otherwise. We would not have
this exchange if your assertion were true.
> > > HE has given each of us the free will to choose to either obey HIM by
> > > doing that which is right or not. Without the free will, there would
> > > be no love in our hearts for us to be aware that we have souls.
>
> > You're spouting nonsense again, Chung.
>
> Sad to read that love is nonsense to you.
Love is a real emotion. "god" is a fantasy.
> My condolences to those who love you.
Don't worry about them, fraud. Or about myself, for that matter. I
don't know how long you can maintain this semblance of life of yours,
but one day you might realize it's all for nought.
> > > Disobeying GOD by not doing that which is right is sin.
>
> > Define "right", fraud.
>
> Name-calling is the opposite of right and simply shows that the Holy
> Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
In your case, "name-calling" is not only right, but a duty.
Olrik
<snip tedious crap>
Simply the truth, dear neighbor Olrik.
(see subject: line)
Bottom line:
You remain untruthful.
This simply shows that that holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Repeating you previous post as an reply on my reaction, seems rather
stuoid.
If I were the Kings of Kings I would immediatly fire any of my
servants if he displayed such apperant stupidity:)
Hatter
You are waxing incoherent here.
This simply shows the power of the Holy Spirit in HIS convicting you
through your conscience:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d02b0d809b46afc5?
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Yes, sorry, I misspelled Stupid.
The post should gave been this:
Repeating you previous post as an reply on my reaction, seems rather
stupid.
If I were the Kings of Kings I would immediatly fire any of my
servants if he displayed such apperant stupidity:
Now, do you understand?
You are forgiven the typing error.
However, you still wax incoherent.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Press*BAWK**BAWK**BAWK**BAWK**BAWK*
>
>Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Spamming your bogus and outrageously inflated price for
emorycardiology.com isn't going to increase the chances that you
actually receive $550,000 for it, much less $55.00, shitChunks.
Why don't you try replying in Peter's native tongue, and we'll
see how cogent you come across.
-- cary
OK I will be a bit more coherent than:
BULLSHIT
Is this more according to your level of understanding?