1st you are the one who labeled the 2pd-OMER as a "diet"
Your own PDF document says, "2 Pound Diet - Original Method of Eating
Reduction"
Last updated July 4, 2007
Source: http://heartmdphd.com/losewtnd.pdf
"Simple Step-by-Step Instructions for Permanent Weight Loss
The 2PD-OMER Approach (Published in 1998)
(Not-On-Diabetic-Medications Version)
By Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD.
Last Revised: 07/04/2007
Note: These instructions may be freely distributed without any
changes. Doctor
supervision is required especially if you are taking blood pressure
medications. If you are
on diabetic medications, please get the other set of instructions.
Background information about the 2 Pound Diet - Original Method of
Eating Reduction
(2PD-OMER) Approach can be found at http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp.
"
2nd the "Guarantee" from the Wellness Foundation
"The Foundation" announced the reciept of the more than one million
dollars in late 2006.
"The Foundation" not include this gift in the 990 filing made with the
IRS.
Form 990EZ can't be properly used if contributions during the year are
greater than $100,000.
By recieving funds "The Foundation" is required to disclose the gift
-- even if the gift is anonymous. The giver can remain unnamed but
the funds controled by the foundation must be disclosed.
At this time the "Guarantee" of a 2 million dollar payment is backed
up by assets of less than $125.
To see the public 990 filing search for "The Wellness Foundation" in
Mableton, GA 30126
or the link below to the Foundation Center's database
http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/562/562425284/562425284_200601_990EZ.pdf
The 2007 report will no doubt disclose both the initial more than 1
million dollar donation of which, "Dr. Andrew Chung has allocated one
million dollars as a guarantee that those who use the 2PD-OMER
Approach will achieve sustained weight loss." (Source:
http://www.truthrus.org/Guarantee/) and the donation from Dr Chung of
the one million from the sale of his website in November 2007.
(Source: www.emorycardiology.com)
3rd the "results of a 5 year study involving more than 625,550 people
who had chosen to use the 2PD-OMER Approach." Source:
http://thewellnessfoundation.com/BeHealthy
While the final report is not yet published please disclose some basic
information so those contemplating the 2PD-OMER will make an informed
decision.
What date did the study start?
How many people were in the initial group?
Were people added during the study?
How many of the initial group died before the study was completed?
Now 2 and a half years later, is there a follow up report on the
April, 20005 announcement?
Please provide a list of doctors who will assist patients with the 2PD-
OMER concept.
3 to 5 names would be sufficient. It is understandable that some of
your collegues may not be willing to have their involvement published
on line.
4th the "convict" list aka "People With Whom Andrew Chung Disagrees"
Those who are "convicted" are the believers awakend by the Holy
Spirit.
They then have knowledge of the saving grace God offers through
Christ.
After being convicted one has the option of accepting or rejecting
salvation.
It is both amusing and sad that you have such anger toward believers
in Christ. It is offensive for any man to claim he knows the state of
another's salvation.
Acceptance of hunger is not part of salvation.
Hunger is a physical, mental or emotional sensation.
Hunger is not bad. Hunger is not good.
Hunger is not to be worshipped.
Your blog would be a dangerous source for a young anorexic. Your
obsession with hunger is among the signs of a person with an eating
disorder. Read through a few of the blogs kept by those with or
recovering from anorexia.
"Anorexia can also cause someone to not act like her or himself. She
or he may talk about weight and food all the time, not eat in front of
others, be moody or sad, or not want to go out with friends." Source:
www.4women.gov
I type these facts about the 2PD-OMER , the "Guarantee", the "study"
and hunger knowing that Dr. Chung will not admit his errors or provide
evidence of why his "information" is correct.
It is regrettable that Dr. Chung chooses to stand on his pride rather
than accept his fallability and admit he has made errors.
He has not been consistent in his communications about the "2 Pound
Diet - Original Method of Eating Reduction (2PD-OMER) Approach" it is
as his site states a "diet."
I pray Dr. Chung will admit to God that Andrew B. Chung is a human who
does make mistakes and seek to be a servant of God rather than a
"convictor" of men.
I am saved by Christ and Andrew Chung's opinion will never change my
relationship with my Father in heaven.
Ga Hoya
Incorrect.
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Bottom line:
You remain pathologically untruthful
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your perishing soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForGH
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Rubbish.
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
There is sufficient evidence archived to prove that you called it a "diet".
>
> Bottom line:
>
> You remain pathologically untruthful
But you remain fired for cause. TTFN.
Let us review these 2 point slowly.
Your website states "2 Pound Diet - Original Method of Eating
Reduction (2PD-OMER) Approach" it is as his site states a "diet."
Source: http:/HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
The form of your writing is translated by readers as "2 Pound Diet -
Original Method of Eating Reduction" is the definition of 2PD-OMER.
So it would be truthful and accurate to write that you inform people
about a diet that is an approach to eating. Or put simply 2PD-OMER is
a diet using the weight of food to reduce eating.
Do not call someone a liar when the facts support their statements.
The "convict" thing yes the Holy Spirit convicted me of the fact
that I need salvation from God through Christ not my own works to be
saved. I accepted HIS gift rather than create my own way of discerning
my way to heaven.
I am definitely "convicted" that being or not being hungry has
nothing to do with God blessing me.
You have not stopped sinning. If you have Christ was wrong to give
you a model prayer which asks daily for forgiveness of sins.
Now what have you to type about "The Wellness Foundation" and their
ability to pay the $2 million guarantee?
Ga Hoya
Getting back to real life in VA
Just as Jesus calling Himself the "Son of Man" does not mean HE is a
man, diet within the acronym 2PD-OMER Approach does not mean the 2PD-
OMER Approach is a diet.
Indeed, the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet just as the Son of Man is
not a man but is GOD.
You and all those who have neen deceived by you will be recognizable
as those compelled to lie about Jesus not being GOD and about the 2PD-
OMER Approach being a diet:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008 ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
> convicted neighbor GH (Ga Hoya) wrote:
> >
> > 4 main areas of misinformation "diet" , "Million dollar Guarantee",
> > "study results", "hunger"
> >
> > 1st you are the one who labeled the 2pd-OMER as a "diet"
>
> Incorrect.
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet:
We know that it's not a diet - it's a lie.
--
St. Jackanapes
http://www.jackanapes.ws
===========================================================
"Where knowledge ends, religion begins." - Benjamin Disraeli
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly endorse the 2PD-OMER Approach.
Laus Deo ! ! !
"Whatever satan calls a lie is automatically true." -- Holy Spirit.
Amen.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
> Hunger is wonderful :-)
... but you have my pity.
The pity of the eternally condemned is less than meaningless.
Bottom line:
You remain the liar, who is the source of all lies as written in
Scripture.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
:-)))
The eternally deluded will always have my pity, therefore your opinion will
always remain meaningless.
So sorry that you were fired - but the bright side is that many patients
have benefited from the wise decision of your peers. It is no wonder that
you remain bitter. All the best.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly demonstrate that your IQ points are now at a
deficit.
Laus Deo ! ! !
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
You will always have my pity.
However, all the praise and glory should actually be directed to the
reputable Dr F Hildner and Co. who were very correct to give you the boot.
God works in mysterious ways, eh? <grin>
Thus, you are pitiful.
Bottom line:
You remain the liar, who is the source of all lies as written in
Scripture.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
>> >> >> > Hunger is wonderful :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ... but you have my pity.
>> >> >
>> >> > The pity of the eternally condemned is less than meaningless.
>> >>
>> >> The eternally deluded will always have my pity, therefore your opinion
>> >> will
>> >> always remain meaningless.
>> >
>> You will always have my pity.
>
> Thus, you are pitiful.
The truth remains that your colleagues will continue to pity you as much I
do. They must be sorry to have sent you packing out that door in less than 3
months, but you must understand it was done in public interest. God does
Good in mysterious ways, eh? Feel free to rant and rave as much as you
please on the internet - it does not harm anyone. <grin>
> Bottom line:
>
> You remain the liar, who is the source of all lies as written in
> Scripture.
Truth? Bottom line? See below.
"Funny thing about that. No reason why they should admit it. Chung was
fired for giving substandard medical care. An arbitrator upheld the
firing. He was out of there in less than 3 months. If Chung's story were
true, he'd at least have had grounds for a suit himself. Ooops. No suit.
Canned. Out the door. Bad doctoring."
<grin>
Words, words, words they make communication difficult when people, Dr.
Chung, decide the definitions do not matter.
Christ was a man, fully and completely, no part was missing. He was
tempted and he lived like a man.
Christ was also fully God. Being God Christ was able to NOT SIN.
Christ was and is the ONLY human who never sinned. Christ is the
ONLY human to keep from sinning.
All men and women sin, daily, that is why CHRIST advised us to pray
daily for forgiveness of our sins.
You, I and every man fail to be perfect every day, if not every hour.
If you were in fact typing only as the Holy Spirit would have you type
you would not lie, deceive and condemn. Also if you were not a sinner
your anger and mean spiritedness would disappear.
You called your concept a diet. The Bible calls Christ a man.
Just as your concept is a type of diet Christ was a type of man. HE
was one of a kind and perfect, but the only way I am saved is if HE
was in fact a human. Because he could dwell perfectly as a man HE was
able to redeem my soul. I will never be able to live perfectly enough
to save myself.
Given your own example the 2PD-OMER is a diet because Christ lived as
a man.
Logic is one of the greatest gifts from God!
No one really cares what you call the 2PD-OMER. It is only when you
decide to redefine words that problems arise.
An OMER is a measure of volume
"According to the Torah (Lev. 23:15), we are obligated to count the
days from Passover to Shavu'ot. This period is known as the Counting
of the Omer. An omer is a unit of measure. On the second day of
Passover, in the days of the Temple, an omer of barley was cut down
and brought to the Temple as an offering. This grain offering was
referred to as the Omer." Source: www.jewfaq.org and numerous other
religious, statistical, and historical sites.
Please provide your source for the omer being a weight. As before you
may not use yourself as the source only God can cite HIMSELF.
Still waiting for the source you depend upon for dating the birth of
Christ.
Still waiting for the amended 990 form to be filed with the IRS. Not
disclosing assets properly could endanger the 501(c)3 status of "The
Wellness Foundation". Do you fellow board members know about the
commitments "The Welleness Foundation" has made?
I will now go back to enjoying life in the real world.
Admit you are wrong on the things which are documented. Those reading
and God already know you are wrong so the only person you are
deceiving is yourself.
GA HOYA
>
> An OMER is a measure of volume
>
Absolutely.
Go to http://www.unitconversion.org/ which and you will see OMER is
listed under "Volume - Dry Conversion" and one OMER is 1.997782468
quart dry (US) [qt dry (US) which is just about two quarts which is a
half-gallon so it should be the Half Gallon OMER Approach.
Therefore, you do not need a scale, but measuring cups.
Therefore regarding the Half Gallon OMER Approach, the mantra should
be: "My cup NOT runneth over is blessed "
Actually, was not mysterious at all. The Holy Spirit led me down
there to test me.
Thankfully, HE helped me pass HIS test:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
> Feel free to rant and rave as much as you
> please on the internet - it does not harm anyone. <grimace>
It is obvious that the rebuking harms you, however:
With the news about the Half-gallon OMER Approach, "My cup NOT runneth
over is blessed," based on the volume of an OMER as written in Exodus
and the numerologist finding of 40 years in the desert, and 40 days
and nights of rain with Noah and adding the digits in 40 to get 4 and
4x4x4 being 64 which is the ounces in a half-gallon, there is some
very reasonable question among Dr Chung's supporters, that the 2 PD
needs to be changed to Half-gallon and everyone needs to buy measuring
cups.
We have unsuccessfully tried to contact Dr. Chung. We checked with
the State Department and Dr. Chung is not in Ethiopia with the KINGS
and LORDS Band.
A number of reliable sources still claim he, is the Bondservant to
Mark D, Sade, owner of the BDSM Club of Mableton, and is in one of the
dungeons in the lowest level basement.
Updates to follow
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c5da17c43496d28
>The Holy Spirit led me down there to test me.
FACT: No-one led you down anywhere - you were booted for cause.
"You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it."
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c5da17c43496d28
> It is obvious that the rebuking harms you, however:
Many things appear "obvious" to the deluded. <grin>
The Holy Spirit is GOD and not "No-one."
It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly expose your unwise course of continuing to
blaspheme against the Holy Spirit to earn eternal condemnation in
manifold ways thereby ensuring that your only future is the lake of
fire that is being prepared for you and your demons.
> - you were booted for cause.
Indeed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
> "You lost your job because you talked yourself out of it."
Would not be openly Christian if there were no talk.
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c5da17c43496d28
>
> > It is obvious that the rebuking harms you, however:
>
> Many things appear "obvious" to the deluded.
Indeed, you have deluded many only because GOD has allowed it (2
Thessalonians 2:9-11) but this has not been obvious to the deluded but
rather to the discerning:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3fa4ecde07979a5a
> <grimace>
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to cause you to grimace by
rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:
Yes, you are a prime example of those deluded.
"How long, O men, will you turn my glory into shame? How long will you
love delusions and seek false gods?"
[Psalm 4:2]
If the one you call the "Holy Spirit" leads you to lie then you are
deluded. You believe that Satan is the Father of lies, do you not?
You are caught in lies every day.
So who is leading you? A liar, obviously.
Seriously, get help today.
Thankfully, HE guides me to continue writing truthfully.
> You believe that Satan is the Father of lies, do you not?
There is only one Father and HE is GOD in heaven.
Bottom line:
You remain the liar, who is the source of all lies as written in
Scripture.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c5da17c43496d28
>>
>> If the one you call the "Holy Spirit" leads you to lie then you are
>> deluded.
>
> Thankfully, HE guides me to continue writing truthfully.
Verbigeration is far from "writing truthfully". You remain a pathological
liar who has been exposed on several occasions, by several people. However,
you continue to remain in denial and hence rightfully will always deserve
our pity.
You will always have my pity. <big grin>
Neither HTML links nor giving thanks to GOD are verbigeration.
>> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c5da17c43496d28
>> >>
>> >> If the one you call the "Holy Spirit" leads you to lie then you are
>> >> deluded.
>> >
>> > Thankfully, HE guides me to continue writing truthfully.
>>
>> Verbigeration is far from "writing truthfully".
>
> Neither HTML links nor giving thanks to GOD are verbigeration.
*Obsessive* repetition of meaningless words and phrases, is verbigeration.
Sign of MH problems.
You have my pity.
Verbigeration start
============================================
=====================================
Verbigeration end
Neither HTML links nor giving thanks to GOD are without meaning.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that each rebuke you have suffered is
resulting in deeper cognitive deficits.
Laus Deo ! ! !
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Isaiah 63:9
In all their affliction He was afflicted, And the Angel of His
Presence saved them; In His love and in His pity He redeemed them; And
He bore them and carried them All the days of old.
It becomes meaningless when it is obsessively repeated, as you continue to
do.
<snipped Benhua's verbigeration>
Not so. People repeat the Pledge of Allegiance over and over and over
and it does not become meaningless.
Certainly you have heard this before:
Psalm 23
A Psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my shepherd;
I shall not want.
2 He makes me to lie down in green pastures;
He leads me beside the still waters.
3 He restores my soul;
He leads me in the paths of righteousness
For His name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil;
For You are with me;
Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.
5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies;
You anoint my head with oil;
My cup runs over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
All the days of my life;
And I will dwell[a] in the house of the LORD
Forever.
<andrew...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:be88d8d4-8562-43d2...@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
I know that by heart and did not need to copy and paste.
You might benefit from learning from the Bible.
"I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have
learned thy righteous judgments."
[Psalm 119:7]
He has but obviously does not like what he has learned.
Moreover, without being able to take GOD's Word to heart (he has none
since unwisely blaspheming against the Holy Spirit), he has not ever
been able to get any of the verses right. This is reflected by his
sockpuppets not being able to get Scripture right even when they copy
and paste ! ! !
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of
Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Laus Deo ! ! !
> "I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have
> learned thy righteous judgments."
> [Psalm 119:7]
Amen.
YOU are the one who needs to follow your own words.
"Hear my prayer, O God; give ear to the words of my mouth."
[Psalm 54:2]
> "Hear my prayer, O God; give ear to the words of my mouth."
> [Psalm 54:2]
You have, yet again, copy-pasted. Caught out, Mr Sock. <grin>
Your Google search did not yield an instance where this verse has been
rendered exactly as given above.
> You have, yet again, copy-pasted.
Fallacious conclusion reached without evidence.
> Caught out, Mr Sock.
You are projecting.
> <grimace>
Expected as you anticipate the rebuke:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
:-)))
Your comment is really absurd or shows how little you know about
computers.
Many quote the Bible, research articles, quotes of famous people and
with computers far easier to copy and paste rather than type it in by
hand.
You might look for a book "Computers For Idiots" and learn how to do
it. Of course, if you do not have much of a life, then typing away
may be a good way to spend your time.
You should not be afraid to learn new things.
"And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid."
[Matthew 17:7]
Did I touch a nerve there, Mr Sock? <big grin>
Dopplegangers are not socks.
Bottom line:
You are the liar, who is the source of all lies are written in
Scripture.
> <big grimace>
Yes, the rebuke is coming...
... here it is:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
:-)))
While you're at it - please explain the deal with your copy-pasting Sock.
<big grin>
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:c6560cef-8f50-42c4...@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly demonstrate how GOD has left you in the dark about
everything.
Laus Deo ! ! !
> <big grimace>
Praising GOD has always had this effect on you. Not sorry that it
bothers you.
Laus Deo ! ! !
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you at each GOD-
given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
<><
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Here's the TRUTH:
Subject: Your Website
From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To: and...@heartmdphd.com
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.
Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
more.
Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?
Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
your colleagues.
Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
Taken from
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f
72?hl=en&
<snipped Chang copy-pasting>
Meaningless from the eternally condemned such as yourself.
> Here's the TRUTH:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
Indeed :-)))
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to rebuke you with the truth
at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:
If you "copy-pasted" all of that, then your comments about others copy-
pasting show just how much of a fool you are and if you typed it by
hand, then you are even more of a fool. You might try remedial
education.
"Yea also, when he that is a fool walketh by the way, his wisdom
faileth him, and he saith to every one that he is a fool."
[Ecclesiastes 10:3]
After blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, there is eternal
condemnation resulting in the death of the soul with concomitant loss
of free will to do anything by evil, which is satan's will.
May you and other dear friends, neighbors, and brethren have a
Oh dear..Oh dear.. those are the exact words of Dr Hildner, in his email to
Chang. If I did paraphrase the contents, it wouldn't be his words now,
would it, Mr Sock-loco?
I am not as wise as you to have claimed "I know that by heart and did not
need to copy and paste." either!
So here is his letter once again for you to ponder on. Enjoy it. <big grin>
=======================================
Subject: Your Website
From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To: and...@heartmdphd.com
Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.
Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.
Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
=================================================
And so citing words from a person's letter or the words from the Bible
are really the same thing - citing someone else's words. I am not
surprised you cannot understand that - maybe even remedial education
would not help you.
This really does apply to you:
"I know that by heart and did not need to copy and paste." <big grin>
Does not bode well for our dear convicted neighbor Frank Hildner's
future for you, satan, to count him among your allies.
May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for Frank...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
... while rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:
<><
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob
... gone:
http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
Amen.
:-)))
And I know all the words of all the books in the Bible by heart.
<small grin>
Now if you will "copy" the wisdom of God and "paste" it in your mind,
you will be much better off.
Yet you have to resort to copy-pasting - you must be one lazy b..d then?
<big grin>
> Now if you will "copy" the wisdom of God and "paste" it in your mind,
> you will be much better off.
No. But I apologise if it has offended you <bigger grin>
Apology accepted. I was not offended by you as I always consider the
source.
You still have hope as an apology works except when:
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never
forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation."
[Mark 3:29]
<andrew...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5368af14-a36d-4e0e...@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
I'd bet there is not a single sane person out there (Christian or otherwise)
who would choose you over Dr Hildner to be their physician. He's an
accomlished, reputable doc; you're an unemployed, bitter quack. Figure it
out, son.
Actually, the sound will be more like "kerplunk... sizzle" when GOD
throws you into the lake of fire HIS angels are preparing for you.
> <grimace>
> Actually, the sound will be more like "kerplunk... sizzle" when GOD
> throws you into the lake of fire HIS angels are preparing for you.
In truth, that was the sound you made when you got the boot and were put in
your place by Dr Hildner, 2 ounces at a time. <big grin>
<obsessive repetition of meaningless words intentionally removed>
And the vast majority of those sane Christians believe in the
existence of GOD
"Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness."
[Genesis 15:6]
FWIW, Dr Hildner has unwittingly done a great service by removing Chung off
the state of Florida. Rightly like a true coward, Chung, had to pull his
pants up and flee Florida following the debacle.
> And the vast majority of those sane Christians believe in the
> existence of GOD
Irrelevant, because the vast majority of insane Christians also "believe in
the existence of GOD". <grin>
><andrew...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:faa65952-481f-4156...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 26, 3:05 pm, "Cheech"
>>> Subject: Your Website
>>> From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
>>> Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
>>> To: and...@heartmdphd.com
>>> Dr. Chung:
>>> Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
>>> reflect the views of CFHC.
>>> Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
>>> which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
>>> and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
>>> attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
>>> to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
>>> yourself out of it.
>>> Frank Hildner MD
>>> f...@orgren.org
>>> Taken
>>> fromhttp://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f
>>> 72?hl=en&
>> If you "copy-pasted" all of that, then your comments about others copy-
>> pasting show just how much of a fool you are and if you typed it by
>> hand, then you are even more of a fool. You might try remedial
>> education.
>Oh dear..Oh dear.. those are the exact words of Dr Hildner, in his email to
>Chang. If I did paraphrase the contents, it wouldn't be his words now,
>would it, Mr Sock-loco?
And it's only publicly available because the real Dr. Chung posted it to
newsgroups himself even though the general consensus is that emails are
private. For those who may not have checked, the following will
facilitate a comparison of the two doctors' background and competence:
[Begin]
Frank Hildner MD, FACC
Specialty Cath Lab Medicine
Education
Medical School: Stritch School of Medicine, Loyola University, Chicago,
IL
Rotating Internship: St. Mary's Hospital, Grand Rapids, MI
Residency: Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, MI
Senior Resident, Cardiac Physiology Laboratory, Henry Ford Hospital,
Adult Cardiology
Fellowship: Post Doctoral Research Fellowship, National Heart Institute
of the National Institutes of Health
Fellowships and Professional Organizations
Fellow, American College of Physicians
Fellow, American College of Cardiology
Fellow, American College of Chest Physicians
Fellow, Council on Clinical Cardiology, American Heart Association
Fellow, Society for Cardiovascular Angiography and Interventions
Trustee for life
Member, Council on Thrombosis, American Heart Association
Marion County Medical Society
Florida State Medical Association
Special Interest Areas
Founding editor, Catheterization and Cardiovascular Interventions.
[End]
http://www.centralfloridaheart.com/physician-frank_hildner.html
Oddly, although Dr. Chung has said that Dr. Hildner was no longer active
because of unspecified problems he is featured prominently on the Web
page, which contains internal news as late as 2007.
I understand former and current members of smc have contacted Dr.
Hildner personally and report that he confirms the views he emailed to
Dr. Chung in 2001.
FWIW, we seem to have three closely related sockpuppets occasionally
write well reasoned messages and other times seem ready to attack anyone
who criticizes Dr. Chung. As I wrote earlier, they lack both his style
and his characteristic content (probably because they are of sound
mind).
--
Don Kirkman
Actually, you are the one who got the boot when GOD kicked you out of
heaven.
> and were put in your place by Dr Hildner, 2 ounces at a time.
Not for the discerning:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Frank
> <big grimace>
You can only grimace at the thought of your future.
May we, who remain eternally in GOD's employment, continue to rebuke
you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
Feedback posted via a web site as a public comment and written as such
with the preface "... comments I make at this time are mine alone and
do not necessarily reflect the views of CFHC..." allows folks to know
that the dear convicted neighbor Frank intended the post to be public.
Indeed, he continued further down with...
"Also, I believe what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted
by you to suit your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and
declarative as possible. Your website comments about cardiology in
Ocala, FL are detractions and border on slander..."
... clearly indicating the public context of his post and the
expectation that this would be publicly seen and discussed.
Bottom line:
You, Don, remain pathologically untruthful.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> For those who may not have checked, the following will
> facilitate a comparison of the two doctors' background and competence:
>
> [Begin]
> Frank Hildner MD, FACC
>
> Specialty Cath Lab Medicine
Sadly, no one has been healed from the medicine administered in a cath
lab by a doctor, whose specialty is cath lab medicine. Instead, the
outcome is a hole in the groin instead of healing.
> Education
>
> Medical School: Stritch School of Medicine, Loyola University, Chicago,
> IL
> Rotating Internship: St. Mary's Hospital, Grand Rapids, MI
> Residency: Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, MI
> Senior Resident, Cardiac Physiology Laboratory, Henry Ford Hospital,
> Adult Cardiology
> Fellowship: Post Doctoral Research Fellowship, National Heart Institute
> of the National Institutes of Health
>
> Fellowships and Professional Organizations
>
> Fellow, American College of Physicians
> Fellow, American College of Cardiology
> Fellow, American College of Chest Physicians
> Fellow, Council on Clinical Cardiology, American Heart Association
> Fellow, Society for Cardiovascular Angiography and Interventions
> Trustee for life
> Member, Council on Thrombosis, American Heart Association
> Marion County Medical Society
> Florida State Medical Association
>
> Special Interest Areas
>
> Founding editor, Catheterization and Cardiovascular Interventions.
>
> [End]
> http://www.centralfloridaheart.com/physician-frank_hildner.html
>
> Oddly, although Dr. Chung has said that Dr. Hildner was no longer active
> because of unspecified problems...
He is afflicted with coronary disease and is status post
interventional cardiac procedures himself.
It remains wise to avoid cardiologists, who are themselves afflicted
with acquired coronary atherosclerotic heart disease.
> ... he is featured prominently on the Web
> page, which contains internal news as late as 2007.
Actually, the Holy Spirit led me down there to CFHC in 2001 to take
over Dr. Hildner's practice because he stopped seeing patients in 2001
because of his health problems.
Indeed, his picture is not among those at CFHC who are still seeing
patients:
http://www.centralfloridaheart.com/meet_our_physicians.html
Folks can simply call CFHC to verify what is written here.
> I understand former and current members of smc have contacted Dr.
> Hildner personally and report that he confirms the views he emailed to
> Dr. Chung in 2001.
He has no choice... it is a matter of public record.
> FWIW, we seem to have three closely related sockpuppets occasionally
> write well reasoned messages and other times seem ready to attack anyone
> who criticizes Dr. Chung. As I wrote earlier, they lack both his style
> and his characteristic content (probably because they are of sound
> mind).
"See you are well again. Now stop sinning or something worse may
happen to you." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen.
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your perishing soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDon
>> http://www.centralfloridaheart.com/physician-frank_hildner.html
>>
>> Oddly, although Dr. Chung has said that Dr. Hildner was no longer active
>> because of unspecified problems...
>
>He is afflicted with coronary disease and is status post
>interventional cardiac procedures himself.
Do you have permission by Dr Hildner to disclose this information here
on usenet, Dr Chung ???
>
>It remains wise to avoid cardiologists, who are themselves afflicted
>with acquired coronary atherosclerotic heart disease.
What makes you so sure that you will not acquire coronary heart
disease in the future for yourself, Dr Chung ??
It remains wise to avoid a doctor who is himself afflicted with
destructive delusions.
MP
This information was not given to me in secret nor have I given any
pledge of secrecy upon receiving this information.
> >It remains wise to avoid cardiologists, who are themselves afflicted
> >with acquired coronary atherosclerotic heart disease.
>
> What makes you so sure that you will not acquire coronary heart
> disease in the future for yourself, Dr Chung ??
Those who are blessed by GOD will not be afflicted by HIM.
> It remains wise to avoid a doctor who is himself afflicted with
> destructive delusions.
Acquiring atherosclerotic coronary heart disease serves well as
evidence of self-destructive delusions.
Indeed, anyone who falsely believes that hunger is bad is suffering
from a destructive delusion, which results in mental illness that
includes the irrational compulsion to overeat.
May we, who are not mentally ill because we have stopped sinning
though we remains sinners, continue to pray for you and others
similarly convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Then hopefully YOU are not a doctor.
"And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none
of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will
lay them upon all them that hate thee."
[Deuteronomy 7:15]
Ounce by ounce, 2 ounce at a time, you packed your bags and made a runner to
the state of Georgia. You indeed must in have been in a real state to have
resorted to such desperate measures. By the way, why are Dr Hildners boot
marks on your buttocks? <grin>
Amen.
Please pray for dear convicted neighbor Michael and our other
convicted neighbors and friends:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Subject: Your Website
Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org
Taken from
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f
72?hl=en&
> Frank Hildner MD
Repeating the Words of GOD as written in the Bible is good, repeating
words from years ago from a Google group have no importance today.
The Words of GOD as written in the Bible are good for today and will
be good tomorrow and for all the tomorrows.
"If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are
written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name--
the LORD your God- the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your
descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering
illnesses."
[Deuteronomy 28:58-59]
O dies irae! That's one hell of a rebuke.
*mops brow*
*notices handkerchief actually still clean and dry*
With the several hundred other rebukes that your dear sweet lord has
issued through you, I reckon all those corporeal demons must be
suffering really badly by now. Think how disappointed they must be
feeling that they haven't even seen a teensy-weensy flame or fireball
or whiff of sulphur yet...
> :-)))
You appear to have a double chin. Not a good advertisement for your
diet, really.
>On Jan 28, 9:20 am, Flying Rat, Quackologist
>>
>> Subject: Your Website
>> From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
>> Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
>> To: and...@heartmdphd.com
>>
>> Dr. Chung:
>..............
>
>> Frank Hildner MD
>
>
>Repeating the Words of GOD as written in the Bible is good, repeating
>words from years ago from a Google group have no importance today.
>The Words of GOD as written in the Bible are good for today and will
>be good tomorrow and for all the tomorrows.
Fairy tales are good - until you try to let them run your lives.
>
>"If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are
>written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name--
>the LORD your God- the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your
>descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering
>illnesses."
Evil little bastard isn't he.
>[Deuteronomy 28:58-59]
--
Bob.
The Bible is not a fairy tale but the Words of GOD which are a good
guidance for life.
You can certainly choose other words or none at all to live by.
"Thou shall ...."
Nonsense. It bears a lot of importance as it helps gain insight on the
matter of Chung - and why he rants'n'raves on the internet - and what drove
him to this state. The coward fled Florida in a state of despair, following
that letter, in a v.very bitter state. He has remained bitter ever since as
he let his ego get the better of him.
> The Words of GOD as written in the Bible are good for today and will
> be good tomorrow and for all the tomorrows.
As are wise words from a loved and respectable Dr which are forever valid.
<more copy-pasting removed>
And even more so are wise Words from a loved and respectable GOD which
are forever valid.
"In the beginning God created ....."
Dunno. But those "wise words" you talk about particularly remain nice in a
book, or nice, when quoted by nice people -- not when it is copy-pasted in
every post by some bitter nutjob that was fired for cause, or nutjob
impersonator that is too lazy to type his god's words each time. <grin>
>On Jan 28, 11:21 am, Ye Old One
>> Fairy tales are good - until you try to let them run your lives.
>
>The Bible is not a fairy tale
It is a collection of bronze age fairy stories (OT) and iron age fairy
stories (NT).
fairy story
n noun a children's tale about magical and imaginary beings and
lands. Øan untrue account.
> but the Words of GOD
Which god?
> which are a good
>guidance for life.
What about the words of all the other gods? Your god is no different
to the others, all were equally created by primitive man.
>
>You can certainly choose other words or none at all to live by.
>
>"Thou shall ...."
>
--
Bob.
Man created gods, not the other way round.
--
Bob.
Can never repeat, write or copy-paste the Words of God enough as they
are the words of life.
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."
[Genesis 2:7]
You must have some form of compulsive obsession then, if you can't get
enough of it. Still can't figure out why you call yourself "andrewbchung",
though... Trolling about, eh? <big grin>
<removed more copy-pasting>
>On Jan 28, 11:58 am, "Cheech Love"
>> Dunno. But those "wise words" you talk about particularly remain nice in a
>> book, or nice, when quoted by nice people -- not when it is copy-pasted in
>> every post by some bitter nutjob that was fired for cause, or nutjob
>> impersonator that is too lazy to type his god's words each time. <grin>
>
>Can never repeat, write or copy-paste the Words of God enough as they
>are the words of life.
They are just the words of primitive men. Nothing more.
>
>"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
>into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."
>[Genesis 2:7]
See, what a load of rubbish.
--
Bob.
Just try not getting enough air to breath. The Word of God in the
Bible is like the air we breath.
No, they are the Words of God as written down by men in the past.
"The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed
belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the
words of this law.
[Deuteronomy 29:29]
Pathetic lengths one would have to go through to believe in "The Word of God
".
Anyway, tried what you suggested but nothing happened.... Should I hold my
breath till I pass out, then?
Now, will you answer the question you dodged? <grin>
Oh no, the Word of God has been true since the beginning
"In the beginning GOD created ....."
Mere assertions and copy-pasting won't magically make it fact,
andrew...@yahooo.com <grin>
>On Jan 28, 12:58 pm, "Cheech Love"
>>
>> You must have some form of compulsive obsession then, if you can't get
>> enough of it.
>
>Just try not getting enough air to breath. The Word of God in the
>Bible is like the air we breath.
Men wrote ever single word you attribute to your gods.
>
>"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed
>into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."
>[Genesis 2:7]
Try 3.8 billion years of evolution to produce mankind. There is a lot
of evidence to back that up where as you have ZERO evidence to back up
your "goddidit" claims.
--
Bob.
Wrong. Sometime in the past primitive man created your gods.
--
Bob.
>On Jan 28, 1:10 pm, Ye Old One
>>
>> They are just the words of primitive men. Nothing more.
>>
>
>No, they are the Words of God as written down by men in the past.
Silly fool. Gods are the invention of primitive man, all the words
attributed to them are therefore also the product of man's
imagination.
>
>"The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed
>belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the
>words of this law.
>[Deuteronomy 29:29]
More fairy tales.
--
Bob.
Copy-pasting is the Internet equivalent of recording music over again
or xeroxing a paper so you do not need to do it over and over again -
you really do need to live in the 21st century. There is a whole
series of books for you - might start with Internet For Idiots.
You should feel very comfortable with this.
"When he takes the throne of his kingdom, he is to write for himself
on a scroll a copy of this law, taken from that of the priests, who
are Levites."
[Deuteronomy 17:18]
Men wrote the Word of God.
"Moses then wrote down everything the LORD had said. He got up early
the next morning and built an altar at the foot of the mountain and
set up twelve stone pillars representing the twelve tribes of Israel."
[Exodus 24:4]
Yes, but that was before:
Exodus 20:1-7
1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of
Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of
any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or
that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the
LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers
upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that
hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my
commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the
LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Yes that was before Exodus 20:1-7 but since then there is only ONE GOD
and the Bible is His Words
> you really do need to live in the 21st century.
Yehbutt, why are you using 21st century technology to peddle prehistoric
ideas? Was SundaySkool fun? :-))
>There is a whole
> series of books for you - might start with Internet For Idiots.
Thanks - but I wonder who the idiot on the internet is. <big grin>
One plus one is still two when writing it in the sand or using pencil
and paper or with a calculator or with the latest computer and so the
Word of God is eternal
"Your word, O LORD, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens"
[Psalm 119:89]
>On Jan 28, 2:18 pm, Ye Old One
>>
>> Wrong. Sometime in the past primitive man created your gods.
>
>Yes, but that was before:
>
>Exodus 20:1-7
>
>1 And God spake all these words, saying,
>
>2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of
>Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
There is no evidence that such bondage existed. Exodus is just another
fairy story.
>
>3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
And yet there are thousands of gods.
>
>4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of
>any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or
>that is in the water under the earth.
>
>5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the
>LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers
>upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that
>hate me;
>
>6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my
>commandments.
>
>7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the
>LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Look, your god is not the only god. It is true that he does stand out
as one of the more evil ones, one of the least trustworthy and one
with little respect for life.
--
Bob.
>On Jan 28, 2:17 pm, Ye Old One
>> Men wrote ever single word you attribute to your gods.
>
>Men wrote the Word of God.
Yes, just like J. K. Rowling wrote all the words that Harry Potter
spoke.
>
>"Moses then wrote down everything the LORD had said. He got up early
>the next morning and built an altar at the foot of the mountain and
>set up twelve stone pillars representing the twelve tribes of Israel."
>[Exodus 24:4]
Moses is a fictional character - he wrote noting and did nothing that
his author didn't want him to.
--
Bob.
So it is evident that your comment, "you really do need to live in the 21st
century.", was a load of BS..
From the discussion it is obvious the only person who seems to be having one
foot in the sand and the other in the 21st century, is yourself.
Gods are fictional characters - all of them, without exception.
--
Bob.