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Re: A science documentary on BBC1 : 10 things you need to know about loosing weight

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 30, 2009, 7:56:52 PM5/30/09
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Chris Hogg wrote:
> GysdeJongh wrote:
>
> >I just saw an incredibly beautiful doc on BBC1.The title is : "10 things you
> >need to know about loosing weight" it can still be seen on their webpage but
> >unfortunately it is shown only if you live in the UK ... :( Which can be
> >simulated or a friendly lurker could puy it on Youtube....
> >
> >For UK people :
> >
> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ksh7c/10_Things_You_Need_to_Know_About_Losing_Weight/
> >
> >It shows the latest evidence based medicine for keeping the weight off in a
> >popular science format
> >I just love the BBC ... :)
> >hth
> >Gys
> >
> I agree, it was a very good programme. For those who haven't been able
> to see it, here's a brief summary of the tips:
>
> 1. When dieting, don't actually skip meals, just eat smaller ones.
> After a period of fasting, e.g. when you've skipped a meal, the brain
> instinctively wants you to re-stock with high calorie foods. So you
> tend to eat more calories than you should.

Wiser to simply weigh all meals so that even if a meal is either
missed or late, one has the information needed to still eat only the
amount that is needed (32 ounces per day) even if considerably
hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Ken

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Spamming Fuckhead

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor


and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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May 30, 2009, 8:39:11 PM5/30/09
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Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.

May God bless and protect and heal.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 30, 2009, 8:50:57 PM5/30/09
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<><

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?"
(WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Ken

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On May 30, 8:40 pm, Ken <flakey...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Spamming Idiot Fuckwadd

There is no bigger pet peeve for me than to see someone spell "lose"
as "loose" or "losing" as "loosing." This dumbass error is happening
everywhere!

It is just SO WRONG!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor


and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopus and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Happy Oyster

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On Sat, 30 May 2009 19:56:52 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu>
wrote:

>Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

But there is http://jesusneverexisted.com/

--
DIE ERSTE REIMBIBEL SEIT DEM MITTELALTER

http://www.reimbibel.de

Ken

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Especially by people who try to impress everyone with theirm so called
"intelligence"

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Happy Oyster wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8223b9f7e2e18004?

Did not find in your citation a rational explanation as to why non-
christians are not able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" if Jesus were
just a fictional "cultural construct."

The only rational explanation can be found in the Bible:

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)

Amen.

Bottom line:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Now, neighbor Oyster, can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor


and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...


... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Ken

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Chris Hogg wrote:
> GysdeJongh wrote:
> >"Chris Hogg" wrote:
> >
> >> I may have oversimplified one or two, but I think they're mostly OK
> >> and some are well known anyway. But I'm in no position to discuss the
> >> merits or otherwise of any of them; I'm just acting as the messenger.
> >
> >Hi Chris,
> >thank you very much for the summary.What amazes me is that these simple
> >things are the only ones that were shown to work in placebo controlled
> >romdomized clinical trials...... The rest might just be a waist of money
> >Gys
>
> Several points came through to me. The actress who had given up trying
> to diet and eventually assumed she had a 'slow metabolism' to explain
> her weight was shown to have a perfectly normal metabolism. When they
> got her to summarise what she ate on a daily basis over a period of
> about two weeks, she seriously underestimated what she thought she was
> eating, as revealed by the doubly labeled water analysis. No wonder
> she was overweight! It's an interesting technique; there's a good
> explanation of it on Wikipedia.
>
> The other fascinating but simple experiment was the choosing of
> multicoloured vs. single coloured sweets, where the bowl of
> multicoloured sweets disappeared at a great rate, while hardly anyone
> touched the single colour ones, even though they were in all other
> respects the same. It hit home with me, because I'm like that with
> biscuits! :-(
>
> There was also the mention at the beginning of the programme of the
> association of visceral fat (fat around the liver and kidneys) with T2
> diabetes. IIRC they were saying that fat around the liver adversely
> influences the production of insulin, although I may have got that
> wrong. I'd not heard of the association before.

The food scale is to eating as the speedometer is to driving.

Just as without the speedometer, we all would be speeding, without the
food scale we would all be overeating.

This analogy helps many understand the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

It remains smarter to eat the right amount daily:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

tr...@finder.com

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"The food scale is to eating as the speedometer is to driving.

Just as without the speedometer, we all would be speeding, without the
food scale we would all be overeating."

Then the people in the camps in WW II must have had good scales?
Calorie intake is to analog of unit of measure or device for determining
same, only in so far as the former is provided by the latter.

"This analogy helps many understand the 2PD-OMER Approach:"

Sadly no, but this does:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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tr...@finder.com

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"The food scale is to eating as the speedometer is to driving.

Just as without the speedometer, we all would be speeding, without the
food scale we would all be overeating."

Then the people in the camps in WW II must have had good scales?
Calorie intake is to analog of unit of measure or device for determining
same, only in so far as the former is provided by the latter.

"This analogy helps many understand the 2PD-OMER Approach:"

Truth:

Sadly no, as described here:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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satan masquerading as truth via a sockpuppet despairingly posted:

>
>"The food scale is to eating as the speedometer is to driving.
>
>Just as without the speedometer, we all would be speeding, without the
>food scale we would all be overeating." -- Spirit-guided disciple of Jesus

>
>Then the people in the camps in WW II must have had good scales?

Instead, they would be likened to folks being thrown into jail for
speeding.

Just as being thrown into jail does stop speeding, being thrown into
prison effectively stops overeating so that folks in prison do
experience being cured of their type-2 diabetes and hypertension.

Indeed, this was how GOD kept Apostle Paul from the sin of gluttony so
that he would have had both the physical and spiritual purification
needed to be fully able to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit
just as this latter-day disciple has been able to fully receive His
guidance in everything said, done, and written:

http://WDJW.net

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
keep Jesus' church by being mindful of WDJW and rebuking you at each
GOD-given opportunity as GOD desires:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks in our local communities for the
probable eventuality of a deadlier Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

tr...@finder.com

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"Indeed, this was how GOD kept Apostle Paul from the sin of gluttony so
that he would have had both the physical and spiritual purification
needed to be fully able to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit just
as this latter-day disciple has been able to fully receive His guidance
in everything said, done, and written:"

Truth:

The affliction leading to such confusion and distortion of thought is
reason for great sadness.

An eternal question is why some are struck down with this affliction and
others not.

There but by the grace of God goes any of us.

We can rejoice in knowing that God has led some to develope methods and
agents by which symptoms of such distortion of thought can be reduced.
Many can resume by using them a more normal life free of such
symptomatic hindrances.

We pray that such methods and agents are being faithfully used.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

>"Indeed, this was how GOD kept Apostle Paul from the sin of gluttony so
>that he would have had both the physical and spiritual purification
>needed to be fully able to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit just
>as this latter-day disciple has been able to fully receive His guidance
>in everything said, done, and written:"

http://WDJW.net

>Truth:

Jesus is the truth!!!

"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
14:6)

Amen.

>The affliction leading to such confusion and distortion of thought is
>reason for great sadness.

Knowing the truth is not an affliction.

Lying being your native language is an affliction because it is
pathological as evident by the affliction causing you to continue to
blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, Who did cast you out of heaven.

May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to

be part of GOD's WDJW church by rebuking you at each GOD-given
opportunity as GOD desires:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan

<><

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

http://T3WiJ.com

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

http://WDJW.net

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

Amen.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

http://JiL4ever.net

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Andrew <><
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"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Ken

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor


and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor

Ken

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Ken

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"Indeed, this was how GOD kept Apostle Paul from the sin of gluttony so
that he would have had both the physical and spiritual purification
needed to be fully able to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit just
as this latter-day disciple has been able to fully receive His guidance
in everything said, done, and written:"

Truth:

The affliction leading to such confusion and distortion of thought is
reason for great sadness.

An eternal question is why some are struck down with this affliction and

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e06b31bdc11418c4?

<><

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist


and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor

Ken

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Andrew Chung..the Spamming Dickhead

Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)


Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had
many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)


Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days


Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia
despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals


Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200,
the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website


Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)


Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on
usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and
admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the
process.


Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover
onto
food.


Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day
from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet
cafe


Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a
bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again
and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.


Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts
of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps
of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.


Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious
activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended
a
church.


Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as
"being
on vacation".


Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him,
and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on
Google.


Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well
as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming
the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when
they
pass away.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor

Ken

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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On May 30, 8:40 pm, Ken <flakey...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Spamming Idiot Fuckwadd

There is no bigger pet peeve for me than to see someone spell "lose"
as "loose" or "losing" as "loosing." This dumbass error is happening
everywhere!

It is just SO WRONG!


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Hey it's wrong, but it only bothers you because YOU KNOW BETTER and it's an
opportunity to point out someone else's mistake. Let's be honest... lose
and loose... that's one of those difficult English situations whereas if not
often used, often forgot. I have to think about it myself.

I get the same way over "there" and "their"... and then sometimes reread my
own posts and realize that I misused it.

It's an easy slip.

Wes

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 6, 2009, 5:37:07 PM6/6/09
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Randy F wrote:
> Kurt Wheeling wrote:
> > Chris Hogg wrote:
> > > GysdeJongh wrote:
> > > > Chris Hogg wrote:
> >
> > > >> I may have oversimplified one or two, but I think they're mostly OK
> > > >> and some are well known anyway. But I'm in no position to discuss the
> > > >> merits or otherwise of any of them; I'm just acting as the messenger.
> >
> > > >Hi Chris,
> > > >thank you very much for the summary.What amazes me is that these simple
> > > >things are the only ones that were shown to work in placebo controlled
> > > >romdomized clinical trials...... The rest might just be a waist of money
> > > >Gys
> >
> > > Several points came through to me. The actress who had given up trying
> > > to diet and eventually assumed she had a 'slow metabolism' to explain
> > > her weight was shown to have a perfectly normal metabolism. When they
> > > got her to summarise what she ate on a daily basis over a period of
> > > about two weeks, she seriously underestimated what she thought she was
> > > eating, as revealed by the doubly labeled water analysis. No wonder
> > > she was overweight! It's an interesting technique; there's a good
> > > explanation of it on Wikipedia.
> >
> > Most people I've ever met who are overweight usually tell you that
> > they don't eat very much, but if they were to write down everything
> > they did eat and calculate the calories they would be surprised.
> >
> > Achieving and maintaining a healthy and appropriate weight is not that
> > difficult if you are honest with yourself and willing to put a little
> > work into doing so. But it seems for many it's easier to just blame it
> > on metabolism, or glands, or some other justification for lack of
> > discipline. Yes, there are those rare few who do have medical
> > problems, but for 99.9% of people it really comes down to calories in
> > and calories burned. Simple, you would think.
> >
> > Kurt- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Kurt Wrote:
> >Achieving and maintaining a healthy and appropriate weight is not that
> >difficult if you are honest with yourself and willing to put a little
> >work into doing so. But it seems for many it's easier to just blame it
> >on metabolism, or glands, or some other justification for lack of
> >discipline. Yes, there are those rare few who do have medical
> >problems, but for 99.9% of people it really comes down to calories in
> >and calories burned. Simple, you would think.
>
> I think your right on the money Kurt.
> There are studies [1] of folks that claim that can't lose weight on
> low calorie diets.
> But when you lock these folks up and control exactly how much they
> eat, -surprise surprise they all lose weight on the same calories that
> they swore made them fatter.
>
> 1.
> Discrepancy between self-reported and actual caloric intake and
> exercise in obese subjects.
>
> Lichtman SW, Pisarska K, Berman ER, Pestone M, Dowling H, Offenbacher
> E, Weisel H, Heshka S, Matthews DE, Heymsfield SB.
> Department of Medicine, St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center, Columbia
> University College of Physicians and Surgeons, New York, NY.
>
> BACKGROUND AND METHODS. Some obese subjects repeatedly fail to lose
> weight even though they report restricting their caloric intake to
> less than 1200 kcal per day. We studied two explanations for this
> apparent resistance to diet--low total energy expenditure and
> underreporting of caloric intake--in 224 consecutive obese subjects
> presenting for treatment. Group 1 consisted of nine women and one man
> with a history of diet resistance in whom we evaluated total energy
> expenditure and its main thermogenic components and actual energy
> intake for 14 days by indirect calorimetry and analysis of body
> composition. Group 2, subgroups of which served as controls in the
> various evaluations, consisted of 67 women and 13 men with no history
> of diet resistance. RESULTS. Total energy expenditure and resting
> metabolic rate in the subjects with diet resistance (group 1) were
> within 5 percent of the predicted values for body composition, and
> there was no significant difference between groups 1 and 2 in the
> thermic effects of food and exercise. Low energy expenditure was thus
> excluded as a mechanism of self-reported diet resistance. In contrast,
> the subjects in group 1 underreported their actual food intake by an
> average (+/- SD) of 47 +/- 16 percent and overreported their physical
> activity by 51 +/- 75 percent. Although the subjects in group 1 had no
> distinct psychopathologic characteristics, they perceived a genetic
> cause for their obesity, used thyroid medication at a high frequency,
> and described their eating behavior as relatively normal (all P < 0.05
> as compared with group 2).
>
> CONCLUSIONS. The failure of some obese subjects to lose weight while
> eating a diet they report as low in calories is due to an energy
> intake substantially higher than reported and an overestimation of
> physical activity, not to an abnormality in thermogenesis.

The lack of insight arises from the pervasive "hunger is starvation"
delusion.

Thus, it remains wise to weigh all meals in order to eat less, down to
the optimal amount (32 ounces) in order to lose the VAT thereby curing
the insulin resistance (IR/MetS) and possibly also be cured of the
type-2 diabetes:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Cardiologist

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Jun 6, 2009, 5:46:34 PM6/6/09
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Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 6, 2009, 7:42:21 PM6/6/09
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Jun 6, 2009, 8:21:33 PM6/6/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 7, 2009, 4:26:07 AM6/7/09
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Ken

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Jun 7, 2009, 11:21:12 AM6/7/09
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Spamming Dickhead

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Jun 7, 2009, 5:08:13 PM6/7/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 7, 2009, 6:47:16 PM6/7/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/87ccec9a14b34a26?

Truth is reality.

May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor


and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Ken

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Jun 7, 2009, 6:50:22 PM6/7/09
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How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on
Usenet?
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An interesting question.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jun 7, 2009, 7:48:56 PM6/7/09
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St. Jackanapes

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Jun 7, 2009, 9:09:38 PM6/7/09
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Andrew B. Chung, FC (former cardiologist) wrote...


> May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
> truth, Who is Jesus:

I'll tell you who Jesus was - Jesus was a Spamming Idiot
Fuckwadd!

The lying Jesus sheep Chung is also a Spamming Idiot Fuckwadd.

All Christians are Spamming Idiot Fuckwadds because the
creators of the Jesus Myth told the sheep to go forth and spam!

When the sheep were told to "Witness for Jesus" it meant the
same as today's "Forward this email to 10 people and your
selfish wish will come true!"

--
St. Jackanapes
http://www.jackanapes.ws
http://www.voy.com/20630/
----------------------------------------------
The ejaculate from Satan has the consistency
~ and smell of emesis." -- Andrew B Chung


Father Haskell

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Jun 7, 2009, 9:38:46 PM6/7/09
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On Jun 7, 9:09 pm, St. Jackanapes <webmas...@jackanapes.ws> wrote:
>  Andrew B. Chung, FC (former cardiologist) wrote...
>
> > May GOD soften your heart, Ken, so that you would come to trust the
> > truth, Who is Jesus:
>
> I'll tell you who Jesus was - Jesus was a Spamming Idiot
> Fuckwadd!

It's true. Jesus was the first cross-poster.

> The lying Jesus sheep Chung is also a Spamming Idiot Fuckwadd.
>
> All Christians are Spamming Idiot Fuckwadds because the
> creators of the Jesus Myth told the sheep to go forth and spam!
>
> When the sheep were told to "Witness for Jesus" it meant the
> same as today's "Forward this email to 10 people and your
> selfish wish will come true!"
>
> --

> St. Jackanapeshttp://www.jackanapes.wshttp://www.voy.com/20630/

Happy Oyster

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Jun 8, 2009, 4:02:52 AM6/8/09
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On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 18:38:46 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>It's true. Jesus was the first cross-poster.

So in those days they were called apostel. Now they are ISPs.
--
How a sect kills YOUR children

http://www.pharmamafia.com

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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