Lake Toba and the SuperVolcano on NOVA; solving Global Warming by airlines dumping thistle seed
a_plutonium
anything of this program. And I learned alot. And I thought they were
going to lead into Krakatoa, but I believe they never once mentioned
Krakatoa, but I missed the opening scenes. And Lake Toba, somewhere is
Indonesia is brand new to me.
But I was wondering when they talked about sulfur triggering a mini ice
age. Wondering whether to solve Global Warming via my idea of airplanes
releasing fibers of carbon such as paper or thistle seed or cotton,
wondering whether sulfur is better.
Another scientist proposed packing air balloons with sulfur and then
shooting them down.
The trouble with sulfur to solve Global Warming is that it is a health
hazard as sulfuric acid.
I think my plan is far better because there are no health issues
involved and no acid rain and mine is easily transportable by the
commercial air lines now in existing operation. And carbon is alot less
weight than sulfur.
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whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
mike3
You'd need a lot more sulfur than you could produce to do that. Why not
just stop using oil? Oh, that's right... because then you couldn't have
your
big 0.1 mpg monster suv! PS. the entire universe is NOT a big atom of
plutonium and I'd be willing to bet the plutonium atom in your brain
has long
since decayed to an atom of lead...
a_plutonium
with Lightning-bolts determining the direction of motion of plates in
plate tectonics.
Because from this program I noticed that the geographical place of
these supervolcanes mostly lie on 40 degree north or south latitude or
the equator. Several supervolcanoes mentioned were Sumatra, New
Zealand, Yellowstone USA, Italy.
So is it because only near the equator can you have magma chambers
build up to make supervolcanoes?
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placed on my Contact List reply to one of my posts; asking to have your
David Bostwick
>Quite a good program on NOVA tonight. And I have no disagreements with
>anything of this program.
And I'm sure they appreciate your blessing.
>And I learned alot.
Doubtful.
[...]
>
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>My email box is set for Exclusive hotmail with a Contact List. To be
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>
Why would anyone volunteer to have you spam them?
luc...@sbcglobal.net
"a_plutonium" <a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I think my plan is far better because there are no health issues
> involved and no acid rain and mine is easily transportable by the
> commercial air lines now in existing operation.
Well...except for the fact that commercial aircraft never reach the
troposphere....
Eric Lucas
luc...@sbcglobal.net
"mike3" <mike...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Archimedes Plutonium
>> www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
>> whole entire Universe is just one big atom
>> where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
>
> PS. the entire universe is NOT a big atom of
> plutonium and I'd be willing to bet the plutonium atom in your brain
> has long since decayed to an atom of lead...
Yes, that would explain a lot, wouldn't it? See, Archie, *that* is the type
of valuable theory that one can use to explain actual data.
Eric Lucas
Gordon
<a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Quite a good program on NOVA tonight. And I have no disagreements with
>anything of this program. And I learned alot. And I thought they were
>going to lead into Krakatoa, but I believe they never once mentioned
>Krakatoa, but I missed the opening scenes. And Lake Toba, somewhere is
>Indonesia is brand new to me.
>
>But I was wondering when they talked about sulfur triggering a mini ice
>age. Wondering whether to solve Global Warming via my idea of airplanes
>releasing fibers of carbon such as paper or thistle seed or cotton,
>wondering whether sulfur is better.
>
>Another scientist proposed packing air balloons with sulfur and then
>shooting them down.
>
>The trouble with sulfur to solve Global Warming is that it is a health
>hazard as sulfuric acid.
>
>I think my plan is far better because there are no health issues
>involved and no acid rain and mine is easily transportable by the
>commercial air lines now in existing operation. And carbon is alot less
>weight than sulfur.
>
Pluto, all those thistle seeds, cottonwood lint, or whatever,
spread out in the upper atmosphere would not reflect any more
light than a high quality mirror with the same total cross
sectional area, placed in a stationary orbit between the earth
and the sun...or, a series of mirrors strategically placed around
the earth, such that some were always in the sunlit area of the
earth.
George
> Now these supervolcanoes may tie into what I recently was talking about
> with Lightning-bolts determining the direction of motion of plates in
> plate tectonics.
>
> Because from this program I noticed that the geographical place of
> these supervolcanes mostly lie on 40 degree north or south latitude or
> the equator. Several supervolcanoes mentioned were Sumatra, New
> Zealand, Yellowstone USA, Italy.
Yellowstone is 44 degrees north of the equator, Longridge is 43 degrees
north, greater Maly
Semiachik/Pirog is 54 degress north, greater Bolshoi Semiachik is 54
degrees north, greater
Ichinsky is 55 degrees north, greater Pauzhetka is 52 degrees north, and
greater Ksudach is 51 degrees north. I might also add that although it is
not a caldera-type supervolcano, Mt. Wrangell, in Alaska is the largest
andesitic shield volcano on the planet, and has seen massive eruptions in
its past. It is 62 degrees north.
George
a_plutonium
George wrote:
>
> Yellowstone is 44 degrees north of the equator, Longridge is 43 degrees
> north, greater Maly
> Semiachik/Pirog is 54 degress north, greater Bolshoi Semiachik is 54
> degrees north, greater
> Ichinsky is 55 degrees north, greater Pauzhetka is 52 degrees north, and
> greater Ksudach is 51 degrees north. I might also add that although it is
> not a caldera-type supervolcano, Mt. Wrangell, in Alaska is the largest
> andesitic shield volcano on the planet, and has seen massive eruptions in
> its past. It is 62 degrees north.
>
> George
Yes, now look at where the worlds most lightning bolts occur. They
occur 20 degrees north around Chad Africa. So why is the southern
hemisphere so dearth of supervolcanoes? Why are the majority of
volcanoes lie in the northern hemisphere and also, why is the Pacific
Ocean so dearth in volcanoes.
And the answer lies in lightning bolts. That as lightning bolts
discharge into the crust, they set up a direction of motion northward.
The 6 major continental plates form a pattern of | | | and that is
because of lightning bolt discharges into the ground.
a_plutonium
Gordon wrote:
> Pluto, all those thistle seeds, cottonwood lint, or whatever,
> spread out in the upper atmosphere would not reflect any more
> light than a high quality mirror with the same total cross
> sectional area, placed in a stationary orbit between the earth
> and the sun...or, a series of mirrors strategically placed around
> the earth, such that some were always in the sunlit area of the
> earth.
Silly you. And would you have a child run an Olympic race before the
child even crawls across the floor.
As I said before. Earths first Air Conditioner would have to be
something quick simple easy and economical. Every airplane that flies
can be legislated to emit some cotton fiber seed or thistle seed or
shredded paper.
In the future of 50 years, say 2056 or 2106 we can begin to tackle more
sophisticated and controllable Earth Air Conditioner such as mirrors.
George
>
> George wrote:
>
>>
>> Yellowstone is 44 degrees north of the equator, Longridge is 43 degrees
>> north, greater Maly
>> Semiachik/Pirog is 54 degress north, greater Bolshoi Semiachik is 54
>> degrees north, greater
>> Ichinsky is 55 degrees north, greater Pauzhetka is 52 degrees north, and
>> greater Ksudach is 51 degrees north. I might also add that although it
>> is
>> not a caldera-type supervolcano, Mt. Wrangell, in Alaska is the largest
>> andesitic shield volcano on the planet, and has seen massive eruptions
>> in
>> its past. It is 62 degrees north.
>>
>> George
>
> Yes, now look at where the worlds most lightning bolts occur. They
> occur 20 degrees north around Chad Africa. So why is the southern
> hemisphere so dearth of supervolcanoes? Why are the majority of
> volcanoes lie in the northern hemisphere and also, why is the Pacific
> Ocean so dearth in volcanoes.
Many volcanos lie in the northern hemisphere because most of the Earth's
uninundated landmass (and hence much of the tectonic activity) occurs in
the northern hemisphere. Dah! And in case you haven't noticed (obviously,
you haven't), the Pacific Ocean has no "dearth" of volcanos. In fact, the
vast majority of the world's volcanos occur along the Pacific rim. Oh, and
I don't know where you got the information that says that Chad has the most
lightning bolts, but according to this article, at least, there is another
location that may be the worst for lightning strikes:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125704.200-icy-secret-of-a-storms-ferocity-is-location.html
And obviously, it is in the southern Hemisphere.
And Florida has the most lightning in North America.
> And the answer lies in lightning bolts. That as lightning bolts
> discharge into the crust, they set up a direction of motion northward.
> The 6 major continental plates form a pattern of | | | and that is
> because of lightning bolt discharges into the ground.
I suggest you read this article closely:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125704.200-icy-secret-of-a-storms-ferocity-is-location.html
George
luc...@sbcglobal.net
>
> Gordon wrote:
>
>> Pluto, all those thistle seeds, cottonwood lint, or whatever,
>> spread out in the upper atmosphere would not reflect any more
>> light than a high quality mirror with the same total cross
>> sectional area, placed in a stationary orbit between the earth
>> and the sun...or, a series of mirrors strategically placed around
>> the earth, such that some were always in the sunlit area of the
>> earth.
>
> Silly you.
Yes, take it from the expert at silliness. Silly you.
Eric Lucas
George
"George" <geo...@yourservice.com> wrote in message
news:1M6dnS1xtLM2U4fY...@insightbb.com...
Umm, that should have been this link:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/december2002/default.htm
Sorry about that. You might also want to read this one:
http://www.ucar.edu/communications/infopack/lightning/faq.html
George
Ja ♥
of long period of time. She will give us all we need to make the
repairs. We think we know all about her nature but, she still has
many,
many tricks to show us - I think she will give us a grand megavolcano
show soon with Yellowstone. Then our appointed moron of a president
-- George W.Bush (if he survives the explosion of Yellowstone) can
declare
it to be a terrorist attack on the USA by the evildoers.
luc...@sbcglobal.net
> I suggest you read this article closely:
>
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125704.200-icy-secret-of-a-storms-ferocity-is-location.html
Isn't that a fascinating article? Coincidentally, I just finished it a few
minutes before I read this post, and was going to reply exactly the same to
Archie-poo. Now it would be interesting to understand why there are more
ice crystals over land than over the oceans.
Eric Lucas
tadchem
Considering that the troposphere is the *bottom* 8-16 km of the
atmosphere:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troposphere
commercial aircraft barely get *out* of it. I believe you mean the
*stratosphere*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratosphere:
"Commercial airliners typically cruise at an altitude near 10 km in
temperate latitudes, in the lower reaches of the stratosphere. "
Pinatubo erupted in June of 1991, and cooled the earth by about 0.5°C
for a year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinatubo
It injected about 20,000,000 tonnes of sulfur dioxide gas directly into
the stratosphere:
http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1997/of97-262/of97-262.html
"Some gases, such as carbon dioxide, are greenhouse gases that promote
global warming, while others, like sulfur dioxide, can cause global
cooling, ozone destruction, and polluted air known as volcanic smog or
"vog". "
Consider the logistics involved in trying to *manually* insert 20
megatons of SO2 gas a year into the air at an altitude of 20
miles...all for a 0.5 degree cooling.
You'd need an army just to keep the environmentalist villagers with
torches from burning you alive.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
tadchem
Considering that the troposphere is the *bottom* 8-16 km of the
atmosphere:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troposphere
commercial aircraft barely get *out* of it. I believe you mean the
*stratosphere*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratosphere:
"Commercial airliners typically cruise at an altitude near 10 km in
temperate latitudes, in the lower reaches of the stratosphere. "
Pinatubo erupted in June of 1991, and cooled the earth by about 0.5°C
for a year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinatubo
It injected about 20,000,000 tonnes of sulfur dioxide gas directly into
the stratosphere:
http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1997/of97-262/of97-262.html
"Some gases, such as carbon dioxide, are greenhouse gases that promote
global warming, while others, like sulfur dioxide, can cause global
cooling, ozone destruction, and polluted air known as volcanic smog or
"vog". "
Consider the logistics involved in trying to *manually* insert 20
megatons of SO2 gas a year into the air at an altitude of 20
miles...all for a 0.5 degree cooling.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
hanson
> You'd need an army just to keep the environmentalist
> villagers with torches from burning you alive.
>
ahahahaha... He doesn't wanna know that and if he did he
would deny it, Tom. You are one of the few who has seen
the reality of those green burning torches... ahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs, Tom. .... ahahaha... ahahanson
>
>
[Fartchie]
> "a_plutonium" <a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159335099.9...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > I think my plan is far better because there are no health issues
> > involved and no acid rain and mine is easily transportable by the
> > commercial air lines now in existing operation.
>
luc...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Well...except for the fact that commercial aircraft never reach the
> troposphere....
>
"tadchem" <thomas....@dla.mil> wrote in message
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George
<luc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Probably the same reason why the Antarctic is colder than the Arctic.
Water is a moderator of temperature, so the glaciers in the Arctic are much
less extensive than they are in the Antarctic, which grow over a land
surface. And note that the largest glaciers in the Arctic are in
Greenland.
George
Ken Wood
Nobody is going to shut down petro usage on a dime without causing a
worldwide depression.
KW
luc...@sbcglobal.net
>
> Yes, now look at where the worlds most lightning bolts occur. They
> occur 20 degrees north around Chad Africa. So why is the southern
> hemisphere so dearth of supervolcanoes? Why are the majority of
> volcanoes lie in the northern hemisphere
Uhh....because supervolcanoes generally occur on dry land, and far more of
the southern hemisphere is submerged than the northern hemisphere.
> and also, why is the Pacific
> Ocean so dearth in volcanoes.
Hunh??? The Pacific rim is the most volcanically active area on Earth!
> And the answer lies in lightning bolts. That as lightning bolts
> discharge into the crust, they set up a direction of motion northward.
> The 6 major continental plates form a pattern of | | | and that is
> because of lightning bolt discharges into the ground.
Yeah, whatever.
Eric Lucas
luc...@sbcglobal.net
I guess it must be something like that, but it seems to me that the
moderating effect of the water has to be pretty much confined to the
surface, and yes, I would expect those to indeed affect glaciers. The ice
crystals associated with lightning must be 5 miles+ above the surface, in
storm clouds.
Eric Lucas
luc...@sbcglobal.net
"tadchem" <thomas....@dla.mil> wrote in message
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luc...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> "a_plutonium" <a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159335099.9...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I think my plan is far better because there are no health issues
> > involved and no acid rain and mine is easily transportable by the
> > commercial air lines now in existing operation.
>
> Well...except for the fact that commercial aircraft never reach the
> troposphere....
Considering that the troposphere is the *bottom* 8-16 km of the
atmosphere:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troposphere
commercial aircraft barely get *out* of it. I believe you mean the
*stratosphere*
Oops, yep, brain fart.
Eric Lucas
George
<luc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Ice crystals are very high up, that is true. It is also true that there
are a lot more of them over cool continents than there are over warm ocean
water.
George
a_plutonium
George wrote:
>
> Umm, that should have been this link:
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/december2002/default.htm
>
> Sorry about that. You might also want to read this one:
>
> http://www.ucar.edu/communications/infopack/lightning/faq.html
>
> George
Well, talking about links, the only real important link I need at this
moment is a experiment I am conducting on a electric motor that
simulates the planet Earth itself.
It is where I have a bare motor stripped of all frills. Where I have
the lacquered copper windings.
I run the motor.
Then I place a Electrostatic Generator, to scale, at the equator of the
motor. I simulate and mimic a Lightning-bolt storm.
So as the bolts of electricity zap the electric motor as it is running,
I wait until the motor completely fails.
I then take the motor apart and inspect the lacquered copper windings.
To match present day Earth, I expect where the lacquered copper was
damaged forms a pattern of | | |
I expect no damage to the other side of the motor (our Pacific Ocean
side).
So, have you ever seen any report such as the above.
P.S. my emailbox is a_plutonium@hotmail but it is set for Exclusive
with a Contacts List. If you have serious science that you want to
email me, you have to ask me to put you onto my Contact List, first.
Ask me in post to sci.physics.
a_plutonium
George wrote:
>
> Umm, that should have been this link:
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/december2002/default.htm
>
> Sorry about that. You might also want to read this one:
>
> http://www.ucar.edu/communications/infopack/lightning/faq.html
>
> George
Well, talking about links, the only real important link I need at this
moment is a experiment I am conducting on a electric motor that
simulates the planet Earth itself.
It is where I have a bare motor stripped of all frills. Where I have
the lacquered copper windings.
I run the motor.
Then I place a Electrostatic Generator, to scale, at the equator of the
motor. I simulate and mimic a Lightning-bolt storm.
So as the bolts of electricity zap the electric motor as it is running,
I wait until the motor completely fails.
I then take the motor apart and inspect the lacquered copper windings.
To match present day Earth, I expect where the lacquered copper was
damaged forms a pattern of | | |
I expect no damage to the other side of the motor (our Pacific Ocean
side).
So, have you ever seen any report such as the above.
Archimedes Plutonium
George
>
> George wrote:
>
>>
>> Umm, that should have been this link:
>>
>> http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/december2002/default.htm
>>
>> Sorry about that. You might also want to read this one:
>>
>> http://www.ucar.edu/communications/infopack/lightning/faq.html
>>
>> George
>
> Well, talking about links, the only real important link I need at this
> moment is a experiment I am conducting on a electric motor that
> simulates the planet Earth itself.
>
> It is where I have a bare motor stripped of all frills. Where I have
> the lacquered copper windings.
>
> I run the motor.
>
> Then I place a Electrostatic Generator, to scale, at the equator of the
> motor. I simulate and mimic a Lightning-bolt storm.
>
> So as the bolts of electricity zap the electric motor as it is running,
> I wait until the motor completely fails.
>
> I then take the motor apart and inspect the lacquered copper windings.
>
> To match present day Earth, I expect where the lacquered copper was
> damaged forms a pattern of | | |
>
> I expect no damage to the other side of the motor (our Pacific Ocean
> side).
>
> So, have you ever seen any report such as the above.
No, I can't say that I have. And pardon me for saying so, but that seem to
me to be so much nonsense. If it was that simple, the experiment would be
on the list of things to do in 9th grade science class.
George
luc...@sbcglobal.net
>
> <luc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:UAGSg.9375$6S3....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> "George" <geo...@yourservice.com> wrote in message
>> news:y5KdnZJwYM99sIbY...@insightbb.com...
>>>
>>> <luc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:SNASg.17659$Ij....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>
>>>> "George" <geo...@yourservice.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1M6dnS1xtLM2U4fY...@insightbb.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I suggest you read this article closely:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125704.200-icy-secret-of-a-storms-ferocity-is-location.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't that a fascinating article? Coincidentally, I just finished it a
>>>> few minutes before I read this post, and was going to reply exactly the
>>>> same to Archie-poo. Now it would be interesting to understand why
>>>> there are more ice crystals over land than over the oceans.
>>>
>>> Water is a moderator of temperature, so the glaciers in the Arctic are
>>> much less extensive than they are in the Antarctic, which grow over a
>>> land surface. And note that the largest glaciers in the Arctic are in
>>> Greenland.
>>
>> I guess it must be something like that, but it seems to me that the
>> moderating effect of the water has to be pretty much confined to the
>> surface, and yes, I would expect those to indeed affect glaciers. The
>> ice crystals associated with lightning must be 5 miles+ above the
>> surface, in storm clouds.
>
> are a lot more of them over cool continents than there are over warm ocean
> water.
Well, OK, except for the fact that the ones I'm talking about (the ones
associated with lightning) occur in the summer, when the land is warmer than
the water. Remember--the oceans have a moderating effect in all
seasons--they're warmer than land in winter, and cooler than land in summer.
Eric Lucas
George
<luc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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And your point is?
George
a_plutonium
George wrote:
>
> No, I can't say that I have. And pardon me for saying so, but that seem to
> me to be so much nonsense. If it was that simple, the experiment would be
> on the list of things to do in 9th grade science class.
>
> George
Of course so. You could not do that experiment even now at your present
age, let alone when you were in 9th grade. In fact you never performed
any science experiment in your entire life. All you can do is read and
poorly summarize what you have read. Witness your last hacked up links.
You cannot even refer to three links without fumbling them.
You wonder you never post with a full name, for the embarrassement.
Tonight I am going to open up the killfile and view the wasteland in
the sci newsgroups. Not for learning but for entertainment.
The reason George is not a scientist is because a true scientist spends
99 percent of their thoughts on science and only 1 percent on ad
hominem. George is the reverse of that.
A.P.
luc...@sbcglobal.net
Since the land is warmer than the ocean in summer, your explanation that the
moderating effect of the ocean is the cause of the greater concentration of
ice crystals over land doesn't explain the greater concentration of ice
crystals over land during the summer, i.e., the ones that are associated
with lightning. So we're back to my original question about 7 posts back--I
wonder ice crystals in the atmosphere are more prevalent over land?
Eric
Timberwoof
"a_plutonium" <a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ptui. Bolts of lightning actually go upwards. What's happening is that
they normally reside in the ground, where they hold the crust to the
outer mantle. Whenever there's lightning, that means a bolt temporarily
lifted up high enough to unpin the rust, when then moves a bit: that's
what causes the noise. The rumbles are the aftershocks. That's why
Florida, which has such a huge concentration of lightning strikes on its
western coast, is also on a pate boundary.
Not many people know this.
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
a_plutonium
hanson wrote:
> [Tom to Fartchie]
> > You'd need an army just to keep the environmentalist
> > villagers with torches from burning you alive.
> >
> [hanson]
> ahahahaha... He doesn't wanna know that and if he did he
> would deny it, Tom. You are one of the few who has seen
> the reality of those green burning torches... ahahaha...
> Thanks for the laughs, Tom. .... ahahaha... ahahanson
> >
> >
> [Fartchie]
> > "a_plutonium" <a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159335099.9...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I do not need to have to point out the problem above of rudeness. And
because the sci newsgroups are public. And because scientists have a
responsibility of some manners and etiquette.
I am an advocate that as we earn a degree in science in a University,
that if we misbehave drastically afterwards that we can forfeit our
degree. Where misbehaviour such as a criminal record would make us lose
or forfeit our degree from a University.
And misbehaviour on the Internet such as the above would go towards a
forfeiture of our degree in science.
Behaviour such as Hanson's "hahaha.." reminds me of someone out of
control and not a scientist.
And why call me that denigration? Another indice of evidence that
Hanson is out of control and heading for losing his earned degree in
science.
So I am going to check Indiana Univ for a Hanson or Hansen for he
appears to shift names and where Google gives Gregory Hansen along with
Hanson.
The sci newsgroups should be self policing, but when someone goes
bonkers and out of control as Hanson, then maybe a few contacts with
chemistry at Indiana University may correct this bad behaviour.
P.S. My emailbox is a_plutonium at hotmail dot com but that it is set
for Exclusive with a Contacts List. To be on my Contacts list you have
to either ask me in a post to sci newsgroup or call me at 605-624-7055
answering machine.
I finally fixed email spamming and now I can do some good in fixing sci
newsgroups to be better than what they currently are.
Ken Shackleton
Careful....you are starting to sound like Findlay and Taylor.....
Ken
a_plutonium
a_plutonium wrote:
> hanson wrote:
> > [Tom to Fartchie]
Now I did a quick search of Bloomington Indiana Univ and there is a
faculty member of the cyclotron facility named Gregory L Hansen. So I
am wondering if this is the same person as the Hanson above, which
Google seems to identify as the same.
So unless I get some immediate apology from Hanson or Hansen, I am
going to start making some enquires to Indiana University.
a_plutonium
Timberwoof wrote:
>
> Ptui. Bolts of lightning actually go upwards. What's happening is that
> they normally reside in the ground, where they hold the crust to the
> outer mantle. Whenever there's lightning, that means a bolt temporarily
> lifted up high enough to unpin the rust, when then moves a bit: that's
> what causes the noise. The rumbles are the aftershocks. That's why
> Florida, which has such a huge concentration of lightning strikes on its
> western coast, is also on a pate boundary.
>
> Not many people know this.
>
Sounds like you are ready for a symposium on string theory and
black-holes and neutron stars. Or maybe you just came out of one such
symposium.
A.P.
not worth archiving
Helmut Wabnig
wrote:
>
>hanson wrote:
it's hans hanson, one of the two in California, and you can buy his
police record on-line, if you wish to do so.
Price is 40 dollars, he is not worth more :-)
w..
Eric Gisse
Hmmmmmmmm.
First I must ask, anything interesting on his police record?
I also must say, there are quite a few Louis Savains in California.
>
> w..
Timberwoof
"Ken Shackleton" <ken.sha...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Ah, then my satire is starting to be successful. :-)
George
Umm, ad hominem? Where's the ad hominem? Judging from the above, it would
appear that you are the one concentrating on ad hominems. I merely
presented my opinion of your supposed link between lightning and plate
movements. It wasn't an ad hominem, but if you took it as an insult, then
that certainly is your problem, not mine.
George
George
<luc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:0r0Tg.90$NE6...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
Sure it does. There is always a greater concentration of ice crystals in
the atmosphere over the continents as opposed to the oceans. Whether it is
summer or winter is a moot point. As has been said, water has a moderating
effect on atmospheric temperature. I don't think I suggested that the
moderating effect of water was the ***cause*** of greater concentration of
ice over land. It is certainly a cause of less ice concentration in the
atmosphere over the oceans relative to over land. Get it?
George
George
I had my suspicions, but now I am convinced - you are insane.
Plonk!
George
David Bostwick
>
>hanson wrote:
>> [Tom to Fartchie]
>> > You'd need an army just to keep the environmentalist
>> > villagers with torches from burning you alive.
>> >
>> [hanson]
>> ahahahaha... He doesn't wanna know that and if he did he
>> would deny it, Tom. You are one of the few who has seen
>> the reality of those green burning torches... ahahaha...
>> Thanks for the laughs, Tom. .... ahahaha... ahahanson
>> >
>> >
>> [Fartchie]
>> > "a_plutonium" <a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1159335099.9...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>I do not need to have to point out the problem above of rudeness. And
>because the sci newsgroups are public. And because scientists have a
>responsibility of some manners and etiquette.
>
Maybe they should also not hide behind anonymity. And if you can't take
criticism of your theories, at least leave my boss out of it. Be a
man, Archie.
luc...@sbcglobal.net
Yes, I know that, you numbskull. The question was *why*. You suggest that
the moderating effect of the ocean on temperature is the reason...but the
earth's surface tends to warm the air over continents and cool the air over
the oceans in summer. How does that lead to more ice crystals over land?
Eric Lucas
Eric Lucas
luc...@sbcglobal.net
"Timberwoof" <timberw...@infernosoft.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof.spam-AF...@nnrp-virt.nntp.sonic.net...
Indeed.
Eric Lucas
luc...@sbcglobal.net
> A.P.
> not worth archiving
The smartest you've said in a very, very long time.
Eric Lucas
luc...@sbcglobal.net
> P.S. My emailbox is a_plutonium at hotmail dot com
Oh, come on Archie, grow a pair. That's a_plu...@hotmail.com. Remember,
kiddies, that's a_plu...@hotmail.com. Yes, that's right,
a_plu...@hotmail.com. Call now.
Eric Lucas
luc...@sbcglobal.net
day. When you do, your posts, while completely self-congratulatory and
whacko, at least stop short of complete paranoid delusion. Now that you've
"fallen off the lithium wagon", as it were, you are coming closer and closer
to taking over as King of LaLaLand!
Eric Lucas
"a_plutonium" <a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159508325.9...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
a_plutonium
David Bostwick wrote:
>
> Maybe they should also not hide behind anonymity. And if you can't take
> criticism of your theories, at least leave my boss out of it. Be a
> man, Archie.
Well I handed to you that you do have a much fuller profile than other
misbehaving repliers to posts.
The sci newsgroups need to improve as a forum and one of the worst
behaviours is that of stalking ad hominem where one person devolves
into basically saying "I hate the guts of this poster". That is where
David has fallen into.
I want to link Telephone numbers and telephone laws and legislation to
the Internet. About the only big improvement since 1993 to the sci
newsgroups is the attempted removal of forgery and forgers. There is
alot less forgery going on now. So we have one blessing to count.
But a look at the sci newsgroups right now, most every scientist that
is posting is hiding behind veils and not revealing full true names nor
email addresses. This is a pitiful circumstance. And there is too much
of the goon and loon and kook squads riding through the sci newsgroups
such as the Parry crowd.
The answer for the veils and the hiding can be solved easily by having
email boxes set on Exclusive with a Contacts List. Hotmail has this. It
means you will never be spammed. But then it means some juggling to get
other serious minded people on your contacts list.
As for a full name and validation, linking telephone numbers to posters
with their profile will help curb forgery and also will help those who
want to "block or filter out posters" where you filter a telephone
number.
And telephones have laws about obscenity and obscene phone calls which
if linked with the Internet would correspond to laws of obscenity on
the Internet and sci newsgroups.
Whether telephony has laws concerning stalking and defining stalking I
do not know but could be transfered.
I would define stalking as basically frequent posts which can be
summarized as " I hate the guts of so and so" Four such posts per month
for more than one month would be stalking. And David Bostwick and Eric
Lucas fit that definition of stalking.
To me, stalking is psychologically a person with poor self esteem, and
so their minds crave the attention of strong minded people such as
myself. And they so much crave my attention that they end up stalking
me. And with the Internet a new communication phenomenon, we see this
stalking behaviour very often.
As for the goon and loon and kook crowd, I vote to disconnect the alt
hierarchy from the sci newsgroups. That you cannot crosspost to both.
And because the profile has to be complete for a sci newsgroup post,
will decrease the amount of goon and loon posts in the sci newsgroups.
Many of these posts are by the same kook who morphs names. A valid
telephone number to a real person will eliminate much of the riff raff
going on in the sci newsgroups.
###
As for David Bostwick, I did a tiny Google search and apparently your
first response to Archimedes Plutonium was 1995, and your most recent
ones all basically say the same thing " I hate the guts of A.P." with
no science content. This is not criticism of my theories, but merely
stalking ad hominem.
Eleven years have passed, so apparently you are not a student but
perhaps some laboratory janitor of the Mass Spectrometers of Georgia
Tech.
To criticize my theory on the diseases of Alzheimers, Parkinsons,
Prion, Autism, Schizophrenia would be to indicate whether Georgia Tech
has ever used one of its 8 Mass Spectrometers to delineate what metals
were found in the brain tissue of any one of the above mentioned
diseases.
None of your posts, David, tells me or tells us whether Georgia Tech
Mass Spectrometers with Cameron Sullards in charge has ever taken
tissue of a Alzheimers or Parkinsons or Prion or Autism or
Schizophrenia and put the tissue through the Mass Spectrometer.
Has Georgia Tech done this??
If not, why not?
Because most schools do not even have a Mass Spectrometer of that
precision.
Has Georgia Tech done a Mass Spectrometer on Prion tissue and does it
contain mercury and cesium and rubidium metal.
According to Bob Bruner, biologists are just now beginning to Mass
Spectroscopy of brain tissue of diseases. So we are new at this tool.
So, the question is, David and Cameron Sullards, has Georgia Tech of
its 8 Mass Spectrometers done a inspection of Prion and Alzheimers and
Autism and Schizophrenia and Parkinsons.
If so, when and where are the published results.
P.S. my emailbox a_plutonium at hotmail dot com works only if you are
on my Contacts List. 605-624-7055 or make a post in sci newsgroup
asking to get in touch.
hanson
***** IMPORTANT Announcement *******
...in the peanut section of my fan club, the make up of the
original 3 stooges on my bandwagon has changed from:
*** NO Sperm-VD Moortel, Wabnigger and Eric-tum ***
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/9ba94e678282297f
Dirk VD-Moortel, -- "The Third Kacksacker" -- as he loves
to call himself left this holy stooge trinity and was replaced
by Fartchie aka Archie-pooh. So, here's the new constellation:
**** Fartchie, Wabnigger and Eric-tum, ****
These three splendid blossoms of cyber intelligentsia have
worked together, very hard, to pay homage to me because
of something that they are not sure of .... ahahaha.... since
hanson said:
>
[Tom Davidson to Fartchie]
>>> You'd need an army just to keep the environmentalist
>>> villagers with torches from burning you alive.
>
>>> ahahahaha... He doesn't wanna know that and if he did he
>>> would deny it, Tom. You are one of the few who has seen
>>> the reality of those green burning torches... ahahaha...
>>> Thanks for the laughs, Tom. .... ahahaha... ahahanson
>>
[Fartchie]
So unless I get some immediate apology from Hanson or Hansen,
I am going to start making some enquires to Indiana University.
>>
ahahahaha.. So, what is it that you want me to apologize for?...
That you gave the impression that you farted like a class 3 enviro,
a little green idiot? -- Shall I post the definitions for your benefit?
Haven't you learned in 1st grade the difference between an "o" & an "e"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/8933aaeff32a568d
Inquire here instead about my whereabout, Fartchie, here wherin
you did ask me for seeds of Rock Elm....
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/8933aaeff32a568d
>
[Wabnigger]
Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>> it's hans hanson, one of the two in California, and you
>> can buy his police record on-line, if you wish to do so.
>> Price is 40 dollars, he is not worth more :-)
>
Wabnigger referred to himself lovingly as "Nobody knows
that I am a dog" and then he blames his wife and kids for his
lack of dog brain, ... and apologized to me ruefully in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/2f39c62c8b76ba3b
but Wabnigger kept on stepping compulsively twice more into
his own dogshit, even after I have told him where to look for me,
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/642c799ecf96e03f
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/76086dc08a07031c
Wabnigger listen, you in your compulsive Sucht and yearning for me,
stop your obsession with me and come out of the closet you Zionazi
and spell the beans about your unsavory liaisons...ahahaha...
>
[Eric-tum] aka "Eric Gisse" <jow...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159511687.4...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Hmmmmmmmm.
> First I must ask, anything interesting on his police record?
> I also must say, there are quite a few Louis Savains in California.
>
ahahaha... ahahaha... Eric-tum , listen, you said that you were
"hearing voices in your head" which is why you should check into
Ravencrag to be administered to. Come along with Fartchie.
(Thanks, Louis, for this well targeted label, "Eric-tum" for Gisse's
character, who is aka Shaise, or Gschisse by Yehi Porat)
Eric-tum, here's where you can look me up, at Gleaner9, even as
"jowr", a "Juvenile Of Weak Reasoning" and present yourself as
being "jowr", the "Junior Of Whining Relativists", one of Einstein's
Dingleberries:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/66785977a9b60810
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/5f7df85a2558d296
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/ecd1225c3841cdaf
OK then, I Iove you, my 3 dear deviant and abberant fans with a
passion for you you having given me your undivided attention and
your contributions to my well-being for/via the great many laughs you
caused me to have... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....
This was balsam for my soul... ahahaha... How about yours?
ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahanson
George
<luc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:F0cTg.6521$e66....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
Umm, I see no reason to get defensive over my response. Perhaps we could
be a little more civil? The earth's surface doesn't do anything. It just
sits there. :-) The reason why the surface temperature over the oceans
tends to be lower than over the continents is likely due to the fact that
the ocean surface is rather flat compared to the continents. As such,
there is nothing to impede the movement of air currents, so there tends to
be a lot of straight line winds, and the air tends to have a cooling effect
over the surface of the oceans due to its interaction with the heat sink
that is the ocean. As such, there tends not to be as much updrafting over
the oceans. Over the continents, however, the air tends to heat up at the
surface, becomes more buoyant, and rise. As it rises into the atmosphere
it cools, eventually forming ice crystals. I'm a geologist, not a
meterologist, but that is essentially my take on the process.
luc...@sbcglobal.net
>
> David Bostwick wrote:
>
>>
>> Maybe they should also not hide behind anonymity. And if you can't take
>> criticism of your theories, at least leave my boss out of it. Be a
>> man, Archie.
>
> Well I handed to you that you do have a much fuller profile than other
> misbehaving repliers to posts.
>
> The sci newsgroups need to improve as a forum and one of the worst
> behaviours is that of stalking ad hominem where one person devolves
> into basically saying "I hate the guts of this poster". That is where
> David has fallen into.
Please point out one place where he, I, Bob, or any other poster has ever
used the word "hate" or any other words that mean the same thing. Part of
your trouble, Archie, is that whenever anybody points out the obvious
logical flaws in your theories, you interpret it as hate. A *real*
scientist values criticism, as an opportunity to refine his ideas. Guess
what that makes you....
> I would define stalking as basically frequent posts which can be
> summarized as " I hate the guts of so and so" Four such posts per month
> for more than one month would be stalking. And David Bostwick and Eric
> Lucas fit that definition of stalking.
Point out to me one instance of either David or me expressing hatred.
Speaking for myself, I merely point out logical flaws in your theories, and
try to get you to acknowledge actual data. And if I point out that you
continue to ignore those flaws and that data, it's your own problem if you
interpret that as "hate".
> Eleven years have passed, so apparently you are not a student but
> perhaps some laboratory janitor of the Mass Spectrometers of Georgia
> Tech.
Even if that were true, it's still better than being a has-been potwasher.
What would that make you--all washed-up?
> To criticize my theory on the diseases of Alzheimers, Parkinsons,
> Prion, Autism, Schizophrenia would be to indicate whether Georgia Tech
> has ever used one of its 8 Mass Spectrometers to delineate what metals
> were found in the brain tissue of any one of the above mentioned
> diseases.
>
> None of your posts, David, tells me or tells us whether Georgia Tech
> Mass Spectrometers with Cameron Sullards in charge has ever taken
> tissue of a Alzheimers or Parkinsons or Prion or Autism or
> Schizophrenia and put the tissue through the Mass Spectrometer.
And yet you criticize Prusiner's theory without having conducted one single
experiment. Why not apply your standards you insist everyone else live up
to, to yourself? Oh, that's right--different standards apply to your
theories and everyone else's.
Eric Lucas
don findlay
George wrote:
> <luc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:F0cTg.6521$e66....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
> > that the moderating effect of the ocean on temperature is the
> > reason...but the earth's surface tends to warm the air over continents
> > and cool the air over the oceans in summer. How does that lead to more
> > ice crystals over land?
> >
> > Eric Lucas
>
> Umm, I see no reason to get defensive over my response. Perhaps we could
> be a little more civil?
Priceless! After flogging the crew, George emerges from his
self-imposed killfile, and asks everybody to be civil.
You should be in politics, george (you one-eyed, wall-eyed, purple
people eater.)
The earth's surface doesn't do anything. It just
> sits there. :-)
...thinking you can just smile it way like that...
> I'm a geologist,
Who told you that? (...bum.)
Jo Schaper
It is not xposting to alt newsgroups which is the problem--some, such as
alt.caving, do have a reasonable connection to the sci. groups, and
there is no such similar sci group.
It is the failure of people to stay on-topic but to stray off into
unrelated relgion/politics rants. Now, sometimes these are relevant;
more often they are mere ravings.
I wouldn't think a phone number requirement is good. What if your phone
number is unlisted--especially if you share your phone number because
there are multiple people in a household? Most email addys are specific
to the person involved. For the most part, phone calls are more invasive
than any email. I am on every do not call list out there, but I don't
mind email as it is much easier to delete if not relevant to me. Spam
filters do a pretty good job of catching all but one or two unwanted
emails, and only put one or two wanted ones in the junk box. That way,
most strangers can still get through with legitimate communication, but
the commercial mail is trapped.
It has been sad to see how kook postings have driven away many of the
real scientists from sci.geo.geology, but I cannot blame them. I do not
think this promotes science, as much as it might maintain sanity. Why
people cannot comport themselves online as rational and compassionate
beings is beyond me.
don findlay
Depends what you see as 'kook'. Any 'kook' posting draws immediate
clamour from the assembly. Some of the crowd are more vocal than
others but they are all there for the execution, ...and the spectacle,
..some even like to participate in drawing the knife through the
gristle if the head does not fall with a clean blow. 'George', Master
at Arms, and of The Kill-File and the foolish grin, demonstrates
graphically with just about every post he makes, how 'real science'
behaves in public forum. And it is not to its credit. If others care
to wander off rather than stay for the gore, it is out of disgust for
embarassing extremes, rather than a stomach for reasonable punishment.
But reasonable punishment is the intention, and the desired outcome.
The George flogging the crew, and having to apologise is no different
from a Pair of Big Daks taking an empty swipe at what it sees as a
one-legged butt , then having to shut up.
He who is tied to the stake, does not fan the flames. The measure of
'real science' in action has been quite in evidence. (So don't give us
that 'holier-than-thou' crap. You're fooling nobody.)
Landy
You caught him Jo.......
Now all we need to do is throw him back.
Should we remove his head first so he's not caught again?
cheers
Bill
"don findlay" <d...@tower.net.au> wrote in message
news:1159655755.5...@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Tom Potter
>
> a_plutonium wrote:
>> hanson wrote:
>> > [Tom to Fartchie]
>
> Now I did a quick search of Bloomington Indiana Univ and there is a
> faculty member of the cyclotron facility named Gregory L Hansen. So I
> am wondering if this is the same person as the Hanson above, which
> Google seems to identify as the same.
>
> So unless I get some immediate apology from Hanson or Hansen, I am
> going to start making some enquires to Indiana University.
Gregory L Hansen and hanson are obviously two different people.
Gregory L Hansen is a young grad student at Indiana Univiversity,
is not too business and world savvy, and
may never have had a free market job.
hanson is obviously an older guy who is very business and world savvy,
and has obviously been around the block a few times.
hanson gets his kicks by getting under people's skins,
and Gregory L Hansen gets his ego trips
by defending the status quo.
hanson puts emphasis on works,
whereas Gregory L Hansen puts emphasis on credentials.
hanson is an iconoclast
and Gregory L Hansen is an icon worshipper.
These guys are almost 180 degrees out of phase.
--
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jmfb...@aol.com
"Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
You really are out to destroy anybody who can think well
and is productive.
I can count on one hand the times that Gregory has been
rude. And now your campaign is to target him?
/BAH
Greg Hansen
> hanson wrote:
> Behaviour such as Hanson's "hahaha.." reminds me of someone out of
> control and not a scientist.
>
> And why call me that denigration? Another indice of evidence that
> Hanson is out of control and heading for losing his earned degree in
> science.
>
> So I am going to check Indiana Univ for a Hanson or Hansen for he
> appears to shift names and where Google gives Gregory Hansen along with
> Hanson.
>
> The sci newsgroups should be self policing, but when someone goes
> bonkers and out of control as Hanson, then maybe a few contacts with
> chemistry at Indiana University may correct this bad behaviour.
That's hanson, I'm Hansen. I was a grad student at Indiana University
in the Physics Department, graduated in October 2004. Google assumes
you don't know which hanson you're searching for, so it gives you both.
>
> P.S. My emailbox is a_plutonium at hotmail dot com but that it is set
> for Exclusive with a Contacts List. To be on my Contacts list you have
> to either ask me in a post to sci newsgroup or call me at 605-624-7055
> answering machine.
>
> I finally fixed email spamming and now I can do some good in fixing sci
> newsgroups to be better than what they currently are.
>
> Archimedes Plutonium
> www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
> whole entire Universe is just one big atom
> where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
>
Good luck getting hanson under control. He's an untameable force of
nature, and will find much amusement in your attempts.
hanson
news:efo34a$8ss...@s852.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.geology/msg/882ce4f93a0ad52a
> <snip>
>
[Becky]
> You really are out to destroy anybody who can think well
> and is productive.
> I can count on one hand the times that Gregory has been
> rude. And now your campaign is to target him?
> /BAH
>
Becky, Becky, Becky, ... ahahaha... but, you are doing to
Potter exactly what you are accusing him of doing: P/K.
You need to oil your wheel chair because the wheels turning
in your head sound like the ones on your WC (The Euros
and Brits would see a pun in that).... ahahaha... Besides,
Becky, if the cyberspace of the Usenet has become your
real world where people get "targeted" and "destroyed"
then it's time for you to wheel over into your own kitchen
and brew some tea to relax your nerves.... ahahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs, you sweet, old yentl... ahahahaha...
ahahaha... ahahahanson
PS: Greg is a good man, Tom is a good man and
you are trying your best... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA
George
"Landy" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:efmvut$6df$1...@news-02.connect.com.au...
Yeah, shame on me for demanding that real questions get real answers. Bad
boy, George.
George
a_plutonium
Greg Hansen wrote:
>
> That's hanson, I'm Hansen. I was a grad student at Indiana University
> in the Physics Department, graduated in October 2004. Google assumes
> you don't know which hanson you're searching for, so it gives you both.
>
Hello, I thought the same. I believe our language has a "signature
personality"; the way we construct syntax and sentences tells us
whether Hansen wrote the paragraph or hanson wrote the paragraph. I
tried sampling Ivars Fabrici who I suspect is AI or some program with
this method in mind.
And I am having a bit of the same problem with the name "Ludwig Hansen"
which was my former adoptive name. And a search for "Ludwig Hansen"
seems to pull up a Antarctica explorer of Ludvig Hansen and some
criminal in Alaska etc etc
I guess searches cannot be perfect and this "Did you mean to search for
..." gets some goofy end results.
>
> Good luck getting hanson under control. He's an untameable force of
> nature, and will find much amusement in your attempts.
No thanks, I reinstalled my Blocking or Killfile. I have never liked
the term "killfile" and should have been named "filterfile or
blockingfile". Newcomers find a term "killfile" unsettling at first.
Dealing with people thingies or people stuff of misbehaviour or
personality disorders is too time consuming and time wasting for me
when I rather be doing science. I am more comfortable with a full
filters on "on position". I guess that is why I like my email hotmail
on Exclusive with Contacts Only.
That is why sci newsgroups, I feel, need to engineer telephone numbers
along with Profiles to get rid of much of the nonsense and noise that
presently fills the halls of those newsgroups. The sci. newsgroups are
in a state of deterioration because the majority of activity is not
science but everything outside of science. It is like a High School
classroom where the teacher has lost control of the students and
learning cannot occur.
unsettled
worthy discussion culled to leave these points:
> It has been sad to see how kook postings have driven away many of the
> real scientists from sci.geo.geology, but I cannot blame them. I do not
> think this promotes science, as much as it might maintain sanity. Why
> people cannot comport themselves online as rational and compassionate
> beings is beyond me.
The superficial appearance of anonmyity for usenet users
brings this out and the subject has been flogged to death
for nearly three decades. I think it is a lot like the
Las Vegas comercials "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas."
Of course neither anonymity is reasonably real.
I don't think it is kook postings themselves driving away
those whose input would be better appreciated, it is kook
personal attacks that are at fault.
Richard Bach mused in one of his books about the blank
tablet we're given in which to write our life story
providing a choice whether we write something worthwile,
or simply scribble meaningless nonsense all over the
pages.
We can clearly see examples here in usenet.
I think we start off life not only knowing nothing but
also lacking judgment about anything. Over time, as
we grow up (those of us who do) we are each forced to
invent some form of sanity. Here in usenet we are faced
with the sorts of people we ordinarily wouldn't have
an occasion to talk to in the course of our lives.
It is amazing how many have never developed anything
resembling the sanity that few of us live. Flogging
them doesn't help.
don findlay
unsettled wrote:
> Jo Schaper wrote:
>
> worthy discussion culled to leave these points:
>
> I don't think it is kook postings themselves driving away
> those whose input would be better appreciated, it is kook
> personal attacks that are at fault.
Do you mean *by their persons or *against their persons. And which one
would you deem ok?
>
> Richard Bach mused in one of his books about the blank
> tablet we're given in which to write our life story
> providing a choice whether we write something worthwile,
> or simply scribble meaningless nonsense all over the
> pages.
>
> We can clearly see examples here in usenet.
And which examples would you use to illustrate your point? This one
perhaps?
http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.geo.geology/msg/dd38fa03945421e9
...which combines both eloquence and anonymity in about equal
proportions
> It is amazing how many have never developed anything
> resembling the sanity that few of us live. Flogging
> them doesn't help.
So who's doing the flogging? The kooks or the Sanities? Or the S.A.
?(Settled Anonymities?) (Sturm Abteilung?) or the Unsettled Anonymities
? (USA?)
don findlay
Landy wrote:
> Come in spinner!
> You caught him Jo.......
> Now all we need to do is throw him back.
> Should we remove his head first so he's not caught again?
> cheers
> Bill
Except Bill. (Q.E.D.) (Rushing back now the fire is lit) There, .
see? ... the Institutionalised Scientist in action. (What institution
is it you're at Bill? The one at Towoomba or the one at Newcastle?)
(And what are you wearing this morning? Hot Pants or Big Daks?)
What are you on about anyway? .. Do you think Jo was just fishing to
see if I think I'm a kook? ...Of course I am. Only a Hard 'K"-Kore
Kryptonite 'K'- Kook could put up with the heat in this Kitchen (if
only somebody would turn the power on!). But I don't think she was
really putting out a line on me, were you Jo? Jo might be leading the
charge, but she is far more compassionate than that (...aren't you
Jo?). Besides, ..she'd find it all too, too boring.. Jo likes action
on the field, the thuddy clunk of biffy bloKKes - arguing the
scientific toss, not some sweet cherub-in-a-fountain like me spouting
sweet unsubstantiated nuthin's
What particular bit were you fixing on throwing back anyway?
Everything minus the head? (Nothing like a dismembered head appearing
in your dreams to waken you up before your bladder does.)
(Anyway, ..You've still to answer the *bit* about the KING in the
altogether.)
(Top posting as well, .. Gorr, ...)
> "don findlay" <d...@tower.net.au> wrote in message
> news:1159655755.5...@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Jo Schaper wrote:
> >> It is not xposting to alt newsgroups which is the problem--
> >> It has been sad to see how kook postings have driven away many of the
> >> real scientists from sci.geo.geology, but I cannot blame them. I do not
> >> think this promotes science, as much as it might maintain sanity. Why
> >> people cannot comport themselves online as rational and compassionate
> >> beings is beyond me.
Cheer up Jo, ..It's not that bad. How many 'Kooks'? - versus how many
otherwise rational and 'compassionate' being comporting themselves?
This is almost a better joke than the ones the Master at Arms posts.
jmfb...@aol.com
"a_plutonium" <a_plu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>That is why sci newsgroups, I feel, need to engineer telephone numbers
>along with Profiles to get rid of much of the nonsense and noise that
>presently fills the halls of those newsgroups. The sci. newsgroups are
>in a state of deterioration because the majority of activity is not
>science but everything outside of science. It is like a High School
>classroom where the teacher has lost control of the students and
>learning cannot occur.
ROTFLMAO. Oh, the irony. Just when I think I've heard the best
these people produce another one.
/BAH
tdp...@gmail.com
As can be seen from my post,
I explained to a_plutonium that he was blaming Gregory L Hansen,
(A recent grad student), for posts made by hanson (An old iconclast),
and I pointed out how to differentiate between the two.
I would greatly appreciate it if BAH would explain
how accurately describing a person is "targeting"
and "destroying" them?
Or if my decryptions of Hansen and hanson
are inaccurate, I would appreciate any corrections
by BAH or Hansen or hanson themselves.
hanson
Becky, the wheel chair racing yenta has a compulsion to create,
foment and spread Anti-Semitism with/in her bigotry against
goyim. ... And AFA your other inquiry, take it easy with the "old".
I still have enough milage left before I get to that... ahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs, Tom...
>
<tdp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159878075....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
Becky aka jmfb...@aol.com wrote:
>> In article <451f118f$0$19637$8826...@free.teranews.com>,
>> "Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>> You really are out to destroy anybody who can think well
>> and is productive.
>>
>> I can count on one hand the times that Gregory has been
>> rude. And now your campaign is to target him?
>>
unsettled
> Cheer up Jo, ..It's not that bad.
In fact it could be even better if this newsgroup were
renamed to alt.kooks.don.findlay
werty
There is no global warming . Its a government thing , makes
profits for them . Pork barrel laws ....
Humans have another 20,000 years on earth and in a short
50 years there will be no government in USA .
So , no more R134a , no more prostitution , no drugs , no complaints
from the poor and the "equals" ...
BTW , lower oxy does what to humans ....say 16 % vs 21 % .
a_plutonium wrote:
> Quite a good program on NOVA tonight. And I have no disagreements with
> anything of this program. And I learned alot. And I thought they were
> going to lead into Krakatoa, but I believe they never once mentioned
> Krakatoa, but I missed the opening scenes. And Lake Toba, somewhere is
> Indonesia is brand new to me.
>
> But I was wondering when they talked about sulfur triggering a mini ice
> age. Wondering whether to solve Global Warming via my idea of airplanes
> releasing fibers of carbon such as paper or thistle seed or cotton,
> wondering whether sulfur is better.
>
> Another scientist proposed packing air balloons with sulfur and then
> shooting them down.
>
> The trouble with sulfur to solve Global Warming is that it is a health
> hazard as sulfuric acid.
>
> I think my plan is far better because there are no health issues
> involved and no acid rain and mine is easily transportable by the
> commercial air lines now in existing operation. And carbon is alot less
> weight than sulfur.
>
> ###
> My email box is set for Exclusive hotmail with a Contact List. To be
> placed on my Contact List reply to one of my posts, asking to have your
> email and name placed on the list.
George
"werty" <we...@swissinfo.org> wrote in message
news:1160452859.7...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> There is no global warming . Its a government thing , makes
> profits for them . Pork barrel laws ....
> Humans have another 20,000 years on earth and in a short
> 50 years there will be no government in USA .
> So , no more R134a , no more prostitution , no drugs , no complaints
> from the poor and the "equals" ...
>
> BTW , lower oxy does what to humans ....say 16 % vs 21 % .
>
16%. Can you spelled "Oxygen-deficient"?
George