Three strikes and you're out. The next big ones.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 11, 2012, 3:15:35 AM11/11/12

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5.9 2012/11/10 14:57:49 -8.913 -75.046
118.2 CENTRAL PERU
occurred when the NA EFS showed three Lows in a line.

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html

Issued Day | 2012 11 10 | Hour | 0 and 12 | UTC
Forecast Day | 2012 11 11 |

Yes that is a forecast.
And no I am not saying the earthquake is only related to a forecast
but that whatever was in the computer as actual data to make that run,
was the root cause of both.

Next time I will try to do better:

11/11/12

5 M. Myanmar
5 M. Myanmar
6.8 M. Myanmar

The same website is showing more of the same for the 14th.
If it is any use the forecast goes out ten days so this looks like
being my first stop on the net until I get the Antarctic chart back in
April.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 12, 2012, 3:37:56 AM11/12/12

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On Nov 11, 8:15 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 5.9 2012/11/10 14:57:49 -8.913 -75.046
> 118.2 CENTRAL PERU
> occurred when the NA EFS showed three Lows in a line.
>
> >http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html
>
> Issued Day | 2012 11 10 | Hour | 0 and 12 | UTC
> Forecast Day | 2012 11 11 |
>
> Yes that is a forecast.
> And no I am not saying the earthquake is only related to a forecast
> but that whatever was in the computer as actual data to make that run,
> was the root cause of both.
>
> Next time I will try to do better:
>
> 11/11/12
>
> 5 M. Myanmar
> 5 M. Myanmar
> 6.8 M. Myanmar

Same day:
4.9 M. OFFSHORE GUATEMALA
4.5 M. OFFSHORE GUATEMALA
4.8 M. OFFSHORE CHIAPAS, MEXICO
6.5 M. OFFSHORE GUATEMALA

> The same website is showing more of the same for the 14th.
> If it is any use the forecast goes out ten days so this looks like
> being my first stop on the net until I get the Antarctic chart back in
> April.

The run of Lows across North America looks to be continuous with
today's Canadian forecast giving more of the same for tomorrow leaving
us with the error in the mix showing up as large ones today.

I'm going to try and find a chart that has more immediacy than these
Thatchersque tarts. The long front across the Atlantic is still
showing on the US chart here:

> http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/
in the unlikely event of anyone here being interested.
It doesn't do Burma though.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 13, 2012, 4:15:18 AM11/13/12

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On Nov 12, 8:37 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The run of Lows across North America looks to be continuous with
> today's Canadian forecast giving more of the same for tomorrow leaving
> us with the error in the mix showing up as large ones today.
>
> I'm going to try and find a chart that has more immediacy than these
> Thatchersque tarts. The long front across the Atlantic is still
> showing on the US chart here:
>
> >http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/
>
> in the unlikely event of anyone here being interested.
> It doesn't do Burma though.

2012/11/12 @ 20:42
6.4 M. Gulf of Alaska.

2012/11/13 04:31
6.0 M. off Aisen, Chile.

With three lows still toppin they'll keep up croppin.
(Bit of doggerel there for the new weather lore.)

Anyone know where I can access information for Norwegian earthquakes?

I'm pretty sure angular distance of epicentre to storm centre
decreases with latitude.
(Depending on which storm centre one chooses of course.)

Pretty:
> http://www.findlocalweather.com/weather_maps/pressure_north_america.html

Anyone know the original source.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 13, 2012, 8:23:24 PM11/13/12

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T'as been a good run, so it has so it has.
But now we are off on another lunar phase:

13 Nov 2012. New Moon at 22:08.

The new spell started with this one:
2012/11/13 23:23

5.4 M. Tonga.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 14, 2012, 12:39:50 AM11/14/12

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We still have that line of Lows but an intrusive but nondescript High
is getting in the way on the Canadian map. I could use a few less
miilibars on these isobars:

> http://www.findlocalweather.com/weather_maps/pressure_north_america.html

but I suppose I could always enlarge the screen size with Ctrl&+ then
just take more time. Then again, I could look at all the other bits of
the northern hemisphere linked from there from now until next April.

Why does it always have to be the hard way?

data...@yahoo.com

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Nov 14, 2012, 7:23:02 AM11/14/12

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Pulse !

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/

http://www.weather.gov/

7AM 11/13/12

what's the global picture ?

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 14, 2012, 11:33:16 AM11/14/12

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On Nov 14, 12:23 pm, datak...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Pulse !
>
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
>
> http://www.weather.gov/
>

> 7Annoyed Magpies? 11/13/12

>
> what's the global picture ?

This may come as a complete surprise to you but I don't have any idea
what you are talking about.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 14, 2012, 11:50:56 PM11/14/12

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Looks like they weren't wrong. Though it disagreed with the Canadian
northern Hemisphere chart (and still does.)

2012/11/14 19:02
6.1 M. COQUIMBO, CHILE

Three more consecutive adjacent or whatever the phenomenon is are in
place again for the next large quake:
15 November
> http://www.findlocalweather.com/weather_maps/pressure_north_america.html

Fronts leading to...
Here:
>http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2012/11/11/the-next-big-ones?cid=99608462#comment99608462
sort it all out for yourselves.

A large volcanic eruption in Guatemala on the 13th failed to make the
Smithsonian report:
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er0uCzOm9zY

Why am I surprised at that?

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 16, 2012, 4:23:15 AM11/16/12

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http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2012/11/11/the-next-big-ones?cid=99663332#comment99663332

Nothing desperately obvious showing up on the latest NA EFS. A nice
big cold front is going to do something interesting in the US mid-west
if it hasn't already:

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html

> http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/

> http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/albums/showpic.dml?album=13044952&picture=170396152

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 18, 2012, 4:02:09 AM11/18/12

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On Nov 16, 9:23 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nothing desperately obvious showing up on the latest NA EFS. A nice
> big cold front is going to do something interesting in the US mid-west
> if it hasn't already:

Looks like a change in the weather

> http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2012/11/11/the-next-big-ones?cid=99753472#comment99753472

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 18, 2012, 10:51:37 AM11/18/12

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On Nov 18, 9:02 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like a change in the weather
>

> >http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2012/11/11/the-next-big-ones?c...

The 21st look possible.
The 23rd looks likely.

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html

data...@yahoo.com

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Nov 18, 2012, 12:58:34 PM11/18/12

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On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:33:16 AM UTC-5, Weatherlawyer wrote:
> On Nov 14, 12:23 pm, datak...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Pulse !
>
> >
>
> > http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
>
> >
>
> > http://www.weather.gov/

>>>>>

a second pulse at zero activity last night ?

usually the sudden lack of activity in weather and seismic activity sugggests a significant event or series of significant events.

I haven't acquired online skills for global weather reading so I asked you who has..

the call from the post MIST is authentic from the facts but/and as you suggest tis the season given the prior stepup events socially and politically.

We are seeong a spate of accidents as seismic/weather related events as I track that area.

In the Hazard KY quake with flow going thru the solid area from the coast as I was working into a backflow to SF....I imagine that continues as a potential.

But how relatedto global weather ? I dunno.

I'm beatup at 10 after equipent prep for kayak g dolphin. I shopuld tune in to the total array with failure at the new map system .

back to work after I cook some grits for muh birds

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 18, 2012, 6:43:13 PM11/18/12

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Some small quakes in the Norwegian Sea again on Monday and Thursday if
I have this MetO chart right:

> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/surface-pressure/

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 21, 2012, 2:41:22 PM11/21/12

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Nothing much showing on the NA EFS all the way to the end of the run
on the 6 December.

All I have for the last day and so up thought the promised 23rd is
some multiple quakes:

It is amazing what you can see if you look even (I imagine) without
the benefit of apofenia:

> http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2012/11/11/the-next-big-ones?cid=99917352#comment99917352

data...@yahoo.com

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Nov 22, 2012, 10:16:03 PM11/22/12

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there's a video of an NZ eruption and some Texas mist following the doubling up flow across the New Madrid - New MAH d rid - I was reminded. With an associated tung in check article on drought.

I had 9 birds in for Thanksgiving dinner, the family 6 and 3 tourists.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 23, 2012, 12:29:23 PM11/23/12

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On Nov 23, 3:16 am, datak...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> There's a video of an NZ eruption and some Texas mist following the doubling up flow across the New Madrid -I was reminded. With an associated tongue in cheek article on drought.

>
> I had 9 birds in for Thanksgiving dinner, the family 6 and 3 tourists.

You cooked your research?

What are you referring to with a New Zealand region and Texas weather?

If you are referring to weather in one place being of an extreme with
a region of another place featuring what for all I know might be
another strange or relatively strange phenomenon, then that would be
par for the course of volcanic activity, if said activity was also
unusual.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 24, 2012, 12:50:38 AM11/24/12

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> >http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2012/11/11/the-next-big-ones?c...

No large earthquake on the 23rd.
I think there should have been something, going by the depth of the
Low pressure area off Alaska/Canada yesterday.

964 millibars turning into 996 in 12 hours on the NA EFS charts:

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html

Got frosty just now, ice on roofs and cars. Only an air frost but
these things could mean a small tropical disturbance in the Indian
Ocean or wherever has them in November. That won't happen without its
complementary "significant other".

So..
Anmd no Tonga no wonga.
Ooh, whoops!
Look what I just found:

24th Nov

4.6 M. @ 03:02:44 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS <<<
2.8 M. @ 02:58:19 GULF OF ALASKA
3.2 M. @ 02:33:17 PUERTO RICO REGION
5.1 M. @ 01:30:00 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
4.8 M. @ 01:19:27 ANTOFAGASTA, CHILE
2.5 M. @ 00:30:33 OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA

23rd Nov

5 M. @ 20:50:48 SOLOMON ISLANDS
5.3 M. @ 20:21:29 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
4.6 M. @ 19:54:13 DOMINICA REGION, LEEWARD ISLANDS
2.5 M. @ 18:44:02 PUERTO RICO REGION
2.7 M. @ 18:32:56 PUERTO RICO REGION
4.6 M. @ 16:37:30 FIJI REGION <<<

Might be, or not might be...

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 24, 2012, 4:36:23 AM11/24/12

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On Nov 24, 5:50 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 7:41 pm, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Nothing much showing on the NA EFS all the way to the end of the run
> > on the 6 December.
>
> > All I have for the last day and so up thought the promised 23rd is
> > some multiple quakes:
>
> > It is amazing what you can see if you look even (I imagine) without
> > the benefit of apofenia:
>
> > >http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2012/11/11/the-next-big-ones?c...
>
> No large earthquake on the 23rd.
> I think there should have been something, going by the depth of the
> Low pressure area off Alaska/Canada yesterday.
>
> 964 millibars turning into 996 in 12 hours on the NA EFS charts:
>
> >http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html
>
> Got frosty just now, ice on roofs and cars. Only an air frost but
> these things could mean a small tropical disturbance in the Indian
> Ocean or wherever has them in November. That won't happen without its
> complementary "significant other".
>
> So..
> Anmd no Tonga no wonga.
> Ooh, whoops!
> Look what I just found:
>
> 24th Nov
>
> 4.6 M. @ 03:02:44 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS <<<
>

> 5.1 M. @ 01:30:00 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
>

> 4.6 M. @ 16:37:30 FIJI REGION <<<

Blimey!
That was quick:

> http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/
I swear it wasn't there when I posted the previous.

24 Nov, 6:00 0 hrs 13.6 S 75.8 E 45 kts TS

Anyway, now what colour the apophenix is for that particular draught,
I should be able to do better.

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 25, 2012, 4:34:32 PM11/25/12

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I have spent the largest part of the day watching You Tube videos
instead of doing my job. It's been about 24 hours since the last
biggish quake. So a severe storm is building and another large quake
overdue.

> http://groups.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/aa3fb69921949210/f5ee0f88ce09450e#f5ee0f88ce09450e

It's time I got my charts downloaded and a forecast made. Look out for
26/27th on this site:

>http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html
(Sea level pressure.)

A large deep Low near the east coast and a fairly flaccid yet large
Low on the other side of Canada.

No sign of them maturing into a straight 3 so probably not a single
severe quake. So then maybe 3 or four medium sized ones. (And an
unknown number of them dotted around the globe at that.)

But it's early daze yet. So ...well....
...I don't know.

data...@yahoo.com

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Nov 25, 2012, 7:04:02 PM11/25/12

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unrelated...only a video....kinda cool you iknowmout ona field trip n ura lookin over the volcano grounds then a pppppfffffoooomm plume a smoke blows uo out of the ground....

NOW THERE'S FIELD TRIP !

Texans are big time Dude drivers, the highways are excellent for oil trucks, no frost heaves, low shipping on asphalt...there a miles of pool table smooth 140mph swooping corners flowing over hill and dale..

and there are 60 mph zones on 2 lanes roads going straight thru strip mall city WITH STOPLIGHTS ! DIVINITY DELETED

that Texans plow thru fog is noi big surprise...like retarded sticking finger sinto the wall sockets

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 25, 2012, 7:32:07 PM11/25/12

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On Nov 25, 9:34 pm, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have spent the largest part of the day watching You Tube videos
> instead of doing my job. It's been about 24 hours since the last
> biggish quake. So a severe storm is building and another large quake
> overdue.
>

> >http://groups.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/aa3fb699219...

>
> It's time I got my charts downloaded and a forecast made. Look out for
> 26/27th on this site:
>
> >http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html
>
> (Sea level pressure.)
>
> A large deep Low near the east coast and a fairly flaccid yet large
> Low on the other side of Canada.
>
> No sign of them maturing into a straight 3 so probably not a single
> severe quake. So then maybe 3 or four medium sized ones. (And an
> unknown number of them dotted around the globe at that.)

18:00 on the Australian Antarctic chart gives warning of a large
quake. But there has just been another tropical storm popped up in the
China Seas. That's rated for a Cat 1 in a few days but I think it
could be a 2 or 3 a lot sooner.

> http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=UTC&area=SH&model=G&chartSubmit=Refresh+View

The MetOffice show a really deep Low off Canada for Friday. And a lot
of parallel fronts moving west to east before then so multiple whatsit
epicentres of 5 to 6 M. until then.

> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/surface-pressure/

It all looks rather gay out to then on:

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html

I'm not quite sure how confounded I am with this:
"25 Tropical Depression TWENTY 14-14 NOV 25 -
26 Tropical Depression TWENTY 25-25 NOV 25 - Active
27 Tropical Depression 26W 26-26 NOV 25 - Active"

"Date: 26-26 NOV 2012
Tropical Depression 26W
ADV LAT LON TIME WIND PR STAT
1 156.80 9.00 11/26/08Z 25 - TROPICAL DEPRESSION"

"Date: 25-25 NOV 2012
Tropical Depression TWENTY_SIX
ADV LAT LON TIME WIND PR STAT
1 3.60 157.00 11/25/18Z 25 - TROPICAL DEPRESSION
+12 4.20 156.30 11/26/06Z 30 - TROPICAL DEPRESSION
+24 4.70 155.30 11/26/18Z 35 - TROPICAL STORM
+36 5.10 154.30 11/27/06Z 40 - TROPICAL STORM
+48 5.50 152.80 11/27/18Z 50 - TROPICAL STORM
+72 6.30 149.30 11/28/18Z 65 - TYPHOON-1"

From Unisys:

> http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/w_pacific/2012/index.php
Maybe someone will clear it up for me?

One started at 08:00 and the other at 18:00 on the 25th.

Ho hum...

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 26, 2012, 5:19:14 AM11/26/12

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2012/11/26 @ 07:58

4.5 M. 20.8 S. 179.2 W. Fijian Triangle.
Totally disregard silly depth of 607.8 theydunos and substitute more
latitude and longitude.
(About the acreage of the first shadow zone should do it.)

That's the end of that:
2012/11/26 05:33

5.5 M. 40.4 N. 90.4 E. Southern Xinjiang.

Looks like a new routine is growing. We just need another Fijian
region to set it up. There are a few days left until the end of this
spell but then it is substantially the same again:
20 Nov. 14:31
28 Nov. 14:46

>http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

Actually there are a block of them, all very similar, bracketed by
anticyclonic spells:

Nov 13 22:08
[
Nov 20 14:31
Nov 28 14:46
Dec 6 15:32
Dec 13 08:42
]
Dec 20 05:19

OK. Maybe 6th December isn't that similar but if the Greenland High
situation changes, it could be. They should all have a thundery
nature given to striations and tornadoes.
(That is: Finely balanced, difficult stuff to forecast, playing havoc
with the North Atlantic -and chock full of earthquakes.)

And since the root cause of weather is Cum Sole, von Karman vortices
(not "Coriolis Effect") it IS all based on standing waves.
And they all occur in the middle of the season -so no Antarctic "side"
on the ball for that.

data...@yahoo.com

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Nov 26, 2012, 9:47:04 AM11/26/12

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqOOuEImTQY

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 26, 2012, 8:47:05 PM11/26/12

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On Nov 26, 2:47 pm, datak...@yahoo.com wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqOOuEImTQY

Grand Ole Oprey at its best. They don't get no worse than that. At
least he had the grace to look embarrassed.

Personally I'd have blown the joint. He must have been making just
enough to cover his pharmacist at the time, eh?
And sat up all night thinking of a ditty to cover the next bills?

Skywise

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Nov 27, 2012, 3:24:17 AM11/27/12

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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:c384fb71-ad89-4d45-
902e-22f...@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:

Hell of a lot better than the most of the crap that passes for music
today. But maybe it takes having some musical skills to appreciate
that.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

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Nov 27, 2012, 7:56:07 AM11/27/12

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KICKAPOO GRAY WHITE BROWN GREEN BLACK MUDDY BEAVER FOX BRULE....RED !

mediocre....eatin too much lard

data...@yahoo.com

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Nov 27, 2012, 7:58:30 AM11/27/12

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On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:56:08 AM UTC-5, data...@yahoo.com wrote:
> KICKAPOO GRAY WHITE BROWN GREEN BLACK MUDDY BEAVER FOX BRULE....RED !
>
>
>
> mediocre....eatin too much lard

rrrrrrrrrrr

holy ring fatman ! there's a wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tributaries_of_the_Mississippi_River

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 27, 2012, 4:25:13 PM11/27/12

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On Nov 27, 8:24 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:c384fb71-ad89-4d45-
> 902e-22f0db844...@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:

>
> > On Nov 26, 2:47 pm, datak...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqOOuEImTQY
>
> > Grand Ole Oprey at its best. They don't get no worse than that. At
> > least he had the grace to look embarrassed.
>
> > Personally I'd have blown the joint. He must have been making just
> > enough to cover his pharmacist at the time, eh?
> > And sat up all night thinking of a ditty to cover the next bills?
>
> Hell of a lot better than the most of the crap that passes for music
> today. But maybe it takes having some musical skills to appreciate
> that.

That song wasn't even doggerel. I've heard advert jingles from the
same era with as much poetry. Johnny Cash was not exactly famous for
his ability to select songs with a great deal of grace or charm.

And his style was pretty much typical of the worst in that genre.
But even a man with no taste can sing the occasional good one.

Skywise

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Nov 27, 2012, 10:21:48 PM11/27/12

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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:5e7967c4-65fa-4333-
8944-605...@a15g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:

> That song wasn't even doggerel. I've heard advert jingles from the
> same era with as much poetry. Johnny Cash was not exactly famous for
> his ability to select songs with a great deal of grace or charm.
>
> And his style was pretty much typical of the worst in that genre.
> But even a man with no taste can sing the occasional good one.

Well, you have to admit that when it comes to artistry, beauty
is in the eye of the beholder. What you consider good music is
obviously different than what others think. Just personal taste.

Out of curiosity, what do you consider "good" music?

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 28, 2012, 6:08:21 AM11/28/12

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On Nov 28, 3:21 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:5e7967c4-65fa-4333-
> 8944-605be0c80...@a15g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:

>
> > That song wasn't even doggerel. I've heard advert jingles from the
> > same era with as much poetry. Johnny Cash was not exactly famous for
> > his ability to select songs with a great deal of grace or charm.
>
> > And his style was pretty much typical of the worst in that genre.
> > But even a man with no taste can sing the occasional good one.
>
> Well, you have to admit that when it comes to artistry, beauty
> is in the eye of the beholder. What you consider good music is
> obviously different than what others think. Just personal taste.
>
> Out of curiosity, what do you consider "good" music?

I am quite eclectic. A couple of his songs were favourites at one time
or another. Hurt is still a personal favourite and A boy named Sue is
still in the list somewhere.

But a recent must play was a collection of classic hits put out by a
Sunday paper on CD that I bought for a few pence at a charity shop.

At one time The Coors, John Denver and most BBC Radio 2 pop though
that has all changed these days. Paul Simon and Enja songs are still
favourites.

I used to listen to R2 when driving to work once the female DJ of the
era was off the air. Unfortunately she had the time slot I used for
going to work which was infuriating. She had really poor taste and a
shitty presentation so I just listened to Radio 4 which is more or
less the World Service from the BBC made topical for the home
audience.

And generally, very depressing in a widely informative way.

Meanwhile, the development over Canada is getting interesting again,
though events on the 1st December are enigmatic. I have never had to
deal with two broad cyclones in that region but of course for all I
know they are quite common in the region especially in winter.

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html
[Pressure at sea level]

The run will start with a more Westerly bent (?Samoan?) if I am
correct and extend for quite a time. That seems to be a development
with an intrusive high.

Look how long this one ran to:

4.5 2012/11/28 08:36:11 -15.436 -172.969 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
4.4 2012/11/28 07:00:38 12.629 -88.307 OFFSHORE EL SALVADOR
4.5 2012/11/28 06:46:37 12.55 -88.351 OFFSHORE EL SALVADOR
4.4 2012/11/28 05:43:25 12.509 -88.246 OFFSHORE EL SALVADOR
4.6 2012/11/28 05:30:13 41.849 77.737 KYRGYZSTAN
4.8 2012/11/28 05:28:25 12.511 -88.311 OFFSHORE EL SALVADOR
4.5 2012/11/28 04:31:29 15.505 -92.487 CHIAPAS, MEXICO
5.6 2012/11/28 03:09:49 -4.508 -76.051 NORTHERN PERU
4.2 2012/11/28 01:49:47 42.404 20.072 ALBANIA
4.6 2012/11/28 01:42:23 -2.294 138.232 PAPUA, INDONESIA
4.0 2012/11/28 00:20:46 19.309 -68.839 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC REGION

4.3 2012/11/27 22:08:16 -3.061 129.138 SERAM, INDONESIA
4.4 2012/11/27 20:44:45 -2.906 136.597 NEAR THE NORTH COAST OF
PAPUA, INDONESIA
4.8 2012/11/27 20:30:36 4.098 126.304 KEPULAUAN TALAUD, INDONESIA
4.5 2012/11/27 19:06:22 40.787 19.661 ALBANIA
4.7 2012/11/27 17:39:47 51.696 -179.709 ANDREANOF ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN
IS., ALASKA
5.1 2012/11/27 15:40:56 -56.08 -27.306 SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION
4.3 2012/11/27 15:05:33 12.095 -88.467 OFF THE COAST OF EL SALVADOR
4.2 2012/11/27 15:00:44 53.828 -163.283 UNIMAK ISLAND REGION, ALASKA
4.3 2012/11/27 15:00:20 0.916 123.93 MINAHASA, SULAWESI, INDONESIA
5.2 2012/11/27 14:42:15 48.197 154.941 KURIL ISLANDS
4.6 2012/11/27 13:37:11 5.69 -82.588 SOUTH OF PANAMA
4.5 2012/11/27 12:38:47 -2.94 129.38 SERAM, INDONESIA
4.5 2012/11/27 12:15:19 31.014 78.53 WESTERN XIZANG-INDIA BORDER
REGION
5.2 2012/11/27 11:58:21 -2.755 138.742 PAPUA, INDONESIA
4.6 2012/11/27 10:15:28 13.684 -91.959 OFFSHORE GUATEMALA
4.2 2012/11/27 07:55:56 48.82 -67.344 GASPE PENINSULA, QUEBEC,
CANADA
5.3 2012/11/27 07:34:27 17.715 145.704 ALAMAGAN REG., NORTHERN
MARIANA ISLANDS
4.7 2012/11/27 06:22:30 33.198 49.213 WESTERN IRAN
4.4 2012/11/27 05:01:17 14.017 -92.571 OFFSHORE CHIAPAS, MEXICO
4.5 2012/11/27 04:27:30 -21.409 -66.659 POTOSI, BOLIVIA
5.6 2012/11/27 02:59:09 -2.933 129.244 SERAM, INDONESIA
4.5 2012/11/27 00:09:34 3.398 128.05 NORTH OF HALMAHERA, INDONESIA

5.1 2012/11/26 23:13:51 13.851 93.655 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION
4.7 2012/11/26 22:24:19 25.366 125.052 SOUTHWESTERN RYUKYU ISLANDS,
JAPAN
4.1 2012/11/26 21:13:42 38.89 49.297 CASPIAN SEA, OFFSHORE
AZERBAIJAN
5.0 2012/11/26 17:35:42 36.581 27.939 DODECANESE ISLANDS, GREECE
4.0 2012/11/26 16:36:54 32.656 88.298 WESTERN XIZANG
4.7 2012/11/26 15:52:53 -19.133 169.729 VANUATU

26th @ 15:52 to 28th @ 08:36, nearly 2 days. I think that is fairly
long for a sub spell controlled by diurnal vorticity.

Compare this from earlier the day it started:

4.7 2012/11/26 15:52:53 -19.133 169.729 VANUATU
4.4 2012/11/26 15:31:07 51.555 -179.464 ANDREANOF ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN
IS., ALASKA
4.6 2012/11/26 12:38:11 29.898 142.968 IZU ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION
4.5 2012/11/26 12:27:53 12.041 -88.276 NEAR THE COAST OF NICARAGUA
4.8 2012/11/26 10:19:41 -23.445 -179.752 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS

4.5 2012/11/26 07:58:25 -20.804 -179.171 FIJI REGION

There is probably a missing quake in there that didn't quite make the
lists. They usually have a pair from that side of the gravity anomaly
as is seen along the bottom of that second list.

But the spell changes today (though not by much as I explained earlier
in the thread somewhere.)

I don't expect you to believe a word of it of course but if I might
draw your attention to your own words:

It is "in the eye of the beholder".
Let the reader use discernment.

Skywise

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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b271f02e-bd0c-41eb...@k6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:

> I am quite eclectic.

My musical tastes are quite varied as well. Being a semi-decent
guitarist and interested in sythesized music, much of my tastes
surround good guitar work (David Gilmour my fave) and electronica
of all sorts (mostly early stuff like Jean-Michel Jarre and
Tangerine Dream but also modern such as Daft Punk).

> A couple of his songs were favourites at one time
> or another. Hurt is still a personal favourite and A boy named Sue is
> still in the list somewhere.

OK, so it's just that particular song of his you're not fond of.

> But a recent must play was a collection of classic hits put out by a
> Sunday paper on CD that I bought for a few pence at a charity shop.

Classic what? rock? rap? disco? ehheheheh or did you mean classical?

> At one time The Coors, John Denver and most BBC Radio 2 pop though
> that has all changed these days. Paul Simon and Enja songs are still
> favourites.

If by "Enja" you mean "Enya", I agree there. Been listening since
Watermark and one of the few artists where I've collected every CD.

data...@yahoo.com

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posted the Cash Water Song when I noticed rain flooding England. Cash n Buffet sing drinking songs....

was rain predicted ?

know other flood songs ? Appalachain ?

Weatherlawyer

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There are weather phenomena known as standing waves such as the
Icelandic Low.

Another one is a Low situated off Nice in Winter. Occasionally it
occurs in summer either season it can cause massive floods from
Locarno to Vaucluse.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=79716&src=eoa-iotd

This thing is tired into the times of lunar phases quite well too.
Hard to explain, though as it doesn't always occur. This is something
to do with whatever causes the opposite Phenomenon of the Greenland
High or North Atlantic Blocking.

And Anticyclone will cause a build up of pressure or rather minus
pressure off NE America in the North Atlantic. When the Anticyclone
(an extension of the Azores/Bermuda High) breaks Bonin Islands cops a
quake.

There is usually snow in Britain for the same reason and if it is
extensive as has been the case the last two winters usually gets so
severe that a massive earthquake in Japan or that region occurs.

You don't have to take my word for it. Britain’s snowfalls are rare
enough to make the daily press. And the NEIC can return any result you
want these days.

I just doewnloaded all the quakes from 4 M up since October this year
going back 4 years, just for the purpose of looking to match the large
quakes in a document search.

You can easily see that the earth has these sanding waves performing
extremes of weather at one end of the spectrum or the other wherever
you live if you just look.

The USA is having a cool time of it now in spring it was on fire. We
had those superquakes, two of them in Indonesia and a spate of mag
sevens. All following North Atlantic blocks of one sort or another.

Some people won't wake up to spite themselves if you beat them half
way to death for their own safety to do so.

Weatherlawyer

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On Nov 29, 1:39 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just downloaded all the quakes from 4 M up since October this year

> going back 4 years, just for the purpose of looking to match the large
> quakes in a document search.

I have tried using the search facility a long time ago but the serves
used to fall over on me. I gather it wasn't all my fault. Though I
can't believe an agency the size of the NEIC ANSS would have been
using Microsoft's database and Virus Basic it seems that is exactly
what they were doing.

I have only recently started to delve and find that they now house
quakes below 4 M. for all the places on earth where they might be
recorded.

Which was nice, though it gave my old computer's RAM a rinse out.
60 thousand and more in 4 years.

Skywise

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Nov 28, 2012, 11:39:14 PM11/28/12

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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:10c0cb74-ac56-4e5a-
b571-e31...@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:

> I have only recently started to delve and find that they now house
> quakes below 4 M. for all the places on earth where they might be
> recorded.
>
> Which was nice, though it gave my old computer's RAM a rinse out.
> 60 thousand and more in 4 years.

Awwww... you should try downloading the entire database and writing
software to sift through it. It's only about 800 megabytes. :)

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 29, 2012, 4:04:36 AM11/29/12

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On Nov 29, 4:39 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:10c0cb74-ac56-4e5a-
> b571-e31dc0bad...@f17g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:

>
> > I have only recently started to delve and find that they now house
> > quakes below 4 M. for all the places on earth where they might be
> > recorded.
>
> > Which was nice, though it gave my old computer's RAM a rinse out.
> > 60 thousand and more in 4 years.
>
> Awwww... you should try downloading the entire database and writing
> software to sift through it. It's only about 800 megabytes. :)

I am not capable. I have asked you before but you were too intent on
trying to put me down.

All I need to do is use "control h" in a text file or document, so I
should be OK now thanks.

Like I said my main problem was that the server would throw a wabbler
in the early days so I stopped using it. In those days no one had a
clear idea of what the Internet was supposed to do and what it was
going to accomplish.

Having them available to my desk top at a click secures enough of them
to do a fairly good search should my ISP fail me at any time. It's
like having a dictionary available or an atlas and encyclopaedia.

They may seldom get used but they might also prove useful.

But consider what else you might accomplish with them:

All the fairly minor tremors that one can't be responsible for
considering will be available for comparison with weather charts so I
don't have to wait for a major storm confluence to reach Cape Hatteras
to show you that such systems tend to occur with increased seismic
activity in the Aleutian chain.

And the same goes for the lesser cyclones that occur off Norway. They
can be easily matched to the very small tremors that occur around Jan
Mayen Island.

data...@yahoo.com

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Nov 29, 2012, 6:57:58 AM11/29/12

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http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/travel_times/artim.html

Weatherlawyer

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Nov 29, 2012, 8:52:08 PM11/29/12

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On Nov 29, 9:04 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have to wait for a major storm confluence to reach Cape Hatteras
> to show you that such systems tend to occur with increased seismic
> activity in the Aleutian chain.
>
> And the same goes for the lesser cyclones that occur off Norway. They
> can be easily matched to the very small tremors that occur around Jan
> Mayen Island.

Interesting that a symmetrical cyclone can be stationary despite the
need to obey the Coriolis effect lore. That large deep one in the Gulf
of Alaska is always there when a medium large quake occurs:

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/analysis/947_100.gif

We have had another air frost here. Or two unless it was long lasting.
Some people actually keep records of such things. (Unfortunately they
keep them to themselves. Feckem. Less work for me.)

2012/11/29 @ 11:10
5.9 M. -3.7. 145.4. NEAR NORTH COAST OF NEW GUINEA, P.N.G.

Weatherlawyer

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I can't see it on here:
> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/naefs/cartes_e.html

but there is another largish quake coming today or tomorrow. The super
storm Bophar is now a Cat 5 and will drop to a Cat 3 in 24 hours. So
it is about to slide.

The last Fijian triangle quake was among the largest since then
(Nothing over 4.9 M) so at:

4.8 M. 21.7 S. 179.5 W. FIJI REGION
2012/12/02 @ 21:00
there is a possible 6.3 in the mix from 9 pm on the 2nd going on 21
hours from the time of writing.

Maybe it will turn out to be a series of 5-something Ms all in the
same place at the same time. 2 or 3 5.2 or 3s maybe. I can't really
see that on here though:

> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/surface_pressure.html maybe we will have another one of their corrections tomorrow or later this evening.

The trick to interpreting where earthquake occur along weather fronts
is that if they end in the middle of a Low or and High, it means more
storms and if they end in the middle of nowhere they are seismic in
nature at that place.

As here perhaps:

> http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/UA/OPC_PAC.gif
Unfortunately with that link, the weather is not marked all that
clearly. It only applies to the northern hemisphere -and not all of
that.

But fronts don't cross the equator anyway so ...

Weatherlawyer

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On Dec 3, 4:49 pm, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Let the reader use discernment.

I really ought to do a search for Virgin Islands region quakes.
everything about them is so intimately linked after all, isn't it.

How could people whose life's work it is (and at no little cost, to no
small numbers of countries too) miss it?

Do you know what the budget for Japan's so far useless seismology
research is to date?
Septi-crediblur!

Weatherlawyer

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Dec 3, 2012, 6:54:35 PM12/3/12

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On Dec 3, 9:45 pm, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How could people whose life's work it is (and at no little cost, to no
> small numbers of countries too) miss it?

Could it be that a quake search for the area only returns data for
those of magnitude 4?

Hardly conducive to good research is it.
Is it time for my dysapophenia pills again?

data...@yahoo.com

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On Monday, December 3, 2012 11:49:42 AM UTC-5, Weatherlawyer wrote:
> I can't see it on here:

use a mirror

Weatherlawyer

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On Dec 4, 2:16 am, datak...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> use a mirror

If it hurts, fix it.

2012/12/04 01:42
5.8 M. 61.2 N. -150.7 W. SOUTHERN ALASKA

2 minor adjuncts with that.
No Fijian Triangle closer, yet. But I supposed it wasn't going to be a
massive one. Like I said, I couldn't see it.

The rain woke me a few hours ago. Like Britain, I am sensitive to the
weather. We just had a period of fluctuation commensurate with a
severe tropical storm.

Threats of snow, easterly winds, air frosts even ground frosts.
Weather models disagreeing and even discrepancies in weather stations.

They all point to large quakes or rather they all point to a large
quake. But nothing appeared in the appropriate weather chart. That
Fijian triangle one could be doosy or maybe the closer will arrive
with the starter for the next series:

The usual after effect of a major storm cyclosis is a lot of parallel
fronts followed by a sequence of quakes in the 5M neighbourhood all
with epicentres about 1/2 a degree or so apart and all occurring
together on the list.

Explain that with sub/obduction.

This has got three cyclones in a line at the time of writing:

> http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/
And the fronts have broken off their connection with Bophar. It looks
like they are crossing the line too.
How about that?

Weatherlawyer

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On Dec 4, 6:47 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2:16 am, datak...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > use a mirror
>
> If it hurts, fix it.
>
> 2012/12/04 01:42
> 5.8 M. 61.2 N. -150.7 W. SOUTHERN ALASKA
>
> 2 minor adjuncts with that.
> No Fijian Triangle closer, yet. But I supposed it wasn't going to be a
> massive one. Like I said, I couldn't see it.
>
> The rain woke me a few hours ago. Like Britain, I am sensitive to the
> weather. We just had a period of fluctuation commensurate with a
> severe tropical storm.
>
> Threats of snow, easterly winds, air frosts even ground frosts.
> Weather models disagreeing and even discrepancies in weather stations.
>
> They all point to large quakes or rather they all point to a large
> quake. But nothing appeared in the appropriate weather chart. That
> Fijian triangle one could be doosy or maybe the closer will arrive
> with the starter for the next series:

I didn't see this on the NEIC list. I thought it was strange that
there hadn't been one to close the section of spell dealing with the
rain this morning (4 December 2012.)

2012-12-04 @ 03:54. 9hr 27min ago.
19.74 S. 177.77 W.
5.3 M. FIJI REGION

> http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/

That's about the time it began raining here. I woke up about 20
minutes or so into it. Odd that the NEIC missed it.

> The usual after effect of a major storm cyclosis is a lot of parallel
> fronts followed by a sequence of quakes in the 5M neighbourhood all
> with epicentres about 1/2 a degree or so apart and all occurring
> together on the list.

Apart from the Alaskan stuff which doesn't really count as they are
hardly similar magnitudes, theat Fijian Triangle one has blown that
assertion out of the water for now.

> Explain that with sub/obduction.
>
> This has got three cyclones in a line at the time of writing:
>
> >http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/
> And the fronts have broken off their connection with Bophar. It looks
> like they are crossing the line too.

A lot of compression on here in East and West Canada and that thing is
back in Mexico too. No idea what that means....

> http://www.findlocalweather.com/weather_maps/pressure_north_america.html
...yet.

data...@yahoo.com

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http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mob/

Weatherlawyer

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Weatherlawyer

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On Dec 5, 3:41 pm, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > That Fijian Triangle one could be doosy or maybe the
> > > closer will arrive with the starter for the next series.

I still haven't worked out why the NEIC haven't included it in their
canon but the magnitude was hardly remarkable. It was just its
exclusion that led me astray.

> > It was strange that there hadn't been one to close the section
> > of spell dealing with the rain on 4 December 2012.

>
> > 2012-12-04 @ 03:54. 9hr 27min ago.
> > 19.74 S. 177.77 W.
> > 5.3 M. FIJI REGION
>
> > >http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/

I wonder if it was a problem related to the Alaska quakes:
2012/12/04 from 01:42 on.
5.8 M. 61.2 N. 150.7 W. S. Alaska

> > > This has got three cyclones in a line at the time of writing:
> > > >http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/

Hardly in the same league as the Ensemble Forecast.

These come in for an exam today and over the start of this spell. Fall
apart a bit on the 9th (but that is a way off yet.)

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/index_e.html

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/charts_e.html?Hour=0&Day=0&RunTime=00&Type=pnm

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/charts_e.html?Hour=12&Day=0&RunTime=00&Type=pnm

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/charts_e.html?Hour=24&Day=0&RunTime=00&Type=pnm

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/charts_e.html?Hour=36&Day=0&RunTime=00&Type=pnm

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/charts_e.html?Hour=48&Day=0&RunTime=00&Type=pnm

> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/charts_e.html?Hour=60&Day=0&RunTime=00&Type=pnm

Some charts stored on here:
> http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2012/12/05/canadian-forecasts

And an embarrassment of riches with these:

5 December 2012.
5.1 M. 23:41. -31.0 -177.6 KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION
5.1 M. 23:08. -20.7 -178.9 FIJI REGION
4.9 M. 13:48. -15.0 -173.2 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
4.7 M. 11:22. -15.1 -173.7 TONGA
back on the NEIC list.

Weatherlawyer

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On Dec 6, 9:11 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> These come in for an exam today and over the start of this spell.

> They fall apart a bit on the 9th (but that is a way off yet.)
>
> > http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/index_e.html

Hey; not bad!

7th December 2012

4.8 09:23 37.822 144.175 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU,
JAPAN
4.7 09:13 37.721 143.746 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU,
JAPAN
4.7 09:01 37.741 143.543 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU,
JAPAN
5.5 08:48 37.849 143.581 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU,
JAPAN
6.2 08:31 37.939 143.763 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU,
JAPAN
7.3 08:18 37.889 144.090 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU,
JAPAN

6th.
4.8 20:32 35.561 140.083 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU,
JAPAN

I think I'll keep them.
That NA EFS stuff was a major pain.

I suppose this belongs on the other thread but is seems to fit here
too:

> http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/warnings/wp2612.gif