Climate Warriors Fears Unfounded; Should Be More Concerned With Diminishing Resources
Nobama
worries than climate
It looks like Al Gore is going to need every cent of the $300m war
chest he's amassed for climate persuasion. Americans polled by Gallup
for 'Earth Day' value "traditional", bottom-up environmental issues
such as pollution and conservation as being more worrying than Global
Warming. Remarkably, the level of concern about greenhouse gas
emissions has barely wavered in a generation. Recklessness, or Huck
Finn-style American common sense?
A third of Americans think "Global Warming" is a serious concern - a
figure that's effectively unchanged since 1990, when the question was
first asked. Ominously for the climate doom-mongers, it ranks 10th on
a list of 12 environmental issues. OK, so what are Americans worried
about?
Water pollution issues are three of the top four areas of concern,
with over 80 per cent of people registering serious concern. Waste
contamination comes third, and the loss of natural habitat for
wildlife fifth, with 77 per cent expressing concern. Then there's
rainforests (69 per cent), bio-diversity (68 per cent). Greenhouse
emissions come in 10th - above urban sprawl and acid rain.
And when's the last time you ever heard anyone mention acid rain?
(If you add up the "great deal" and "fair amount" worrywarts, then
Global Warming comes even lower, 11th out of 12th prompted issues).
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Maybe Americans don't trust dodgy computer models, on which the
predictions of global catastrophe are based? Or maybe polar bears just
aren't cute enough? Either way, it can't be for lack of "awareness",
as the mass media goes on about little else.
Top down vs Bottom up
But perhaps it shouldn't be surprising that traditional issues which
affect one's children and family, such as pollution and conservation,
are rated as more urgent. Grassroots, bottom-up environmental groups
once built their support on bringing these issues into the media -
before abandoning them in recent years for the "top-down" agenda of
Global Warming. As Gallup shows, the groups have moved away from
reflecting the everyday environmental concerns of citizens, onto an
agenda largely been driven by a handful of scientists, expensively
backed by powerful quangos. Perhaps if you're an NGO, this ensures a
better Darwinian option for funding survival - but is this what
citizens' groups are supposed to be about?
"And this is what it looked like before we built our data center..."
Google gets into the Gaia spirit for Earth Day
Today's climate warrior will have performed a 180 degree turn from
twenty years ago: rainforests are now being felled in the rush to
create biofuels, a strategy which is causing the world's poorest
people to go hungry, and toxic substances banned from the home are
creeping back in. The justification for each move is CO2.
No wonder Greenpeace's co-founder Patrick Moore wrote recently that
"the environmental movement I helped found has lost its objectivity,
morality and humanity." Moore frowns on using the term "environmental"
for the Global Warming campaigners. I can see his point.
Perhaps it's time hear from "traditional" environmentalism for a
change, instead of its successor, the Carbon Cult?
hanson
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/9489f8256f541862
No wonder Greenpeace's co-founder Patrick Moore wrote
recently that "the environmental movement I helped found
has lost its objectivity, morality and humanity."
for a change, instead of its successor, the Carbon Cult?
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ahahahaha... but the environmental movement, by definition,
NEVER had any objectivity, nor morality, nor humanity
because their Green Bible says that:
>
= "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
= believe is true. -- Paul Watson, Sea Shepard/ex-Greenpeace, &...
= "A lot of environmental [sci/soc/pol] messages are simply not
= accurate. We use hype." -- Jerry Franklin, Ecologist, UoW, and...
= "If you don't know an answer, a fact, a statistic, then .... make it
= up on the spot ... for the mass-media today ... the truth is irrelevant."
= -- Paul Watson in Earthforce: An Earth Warrior's Guide to Strategy.
= "We make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
= mention of any doubts we may have [about] being honest."
= -- Stephen Schneider (Stanford prof. who first sought fame as
= a global cooler, but has now hit the big time as a global warmer)
= "It is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presen-
= tations" -- Al Gore, Chairman, Gen. Investment Management Bank
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/5294015b63489df3
wherein the Greens demonstrate their "humanity with this advice:
= " instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and
= shoot the kids who shoot birds."
= -- Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd
>
The Greens traditional misanthropic platform was to use the
term "environment" as a tool to con money out of people's
pockets to enrich themselves. The carbon fanatics simply
figured out that the CO2 issues will bring them the greatest
$$$$-returns into their wallets for their efforts.
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/f56a295a28d506f2
>
The Green shits instituted, on all industries, permits charges,
user fees, operating burdens, enviro-levies, recycling add-ons,
which are nothing but taxes by another name that did produce
nothing but filling the wallets of the regulatory green shits....
>
(...but not the wallets of the little green idiots we see in these
NGs. They are merely the unpaid and unrewarded enablers
and facilitators for the eviro turds who rake in the dough)
>
Needless to say industries reacted, learned from the green
bible and went "green" too... by inflating and passing on to
the consumers all these green burdens... and used the green
hammering to get rid local employees... by out-sourcing their
production into India and China... ahahahaha....
>
So, with the green pestilence having infected & badly affected
the entire industrial base in the US... ....Guys, it will be a long
and hard way to come back to the good living standard we did
enjoy before the green thievery began... ... and produced this
ever growing chasm between the Rich and the Poor...
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More in these links on rice-rationing & the Green cascade (1,2,3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/ebc7cbaf0bc86342
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/f56a295a28d506f2
hanson
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Otherwise "Nobama" wrote an excellent post, reflecting the views
how the general public sees heuristic Greenism.
Here it is again:
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"Nobama" <nos...@nospam.home> wrote in message
news:4821cc26...@nntp.aioe.org...
An Inconvenient Flatline
"awareness",as the mass media goes on about little else.
Androcles
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
news:7MkUj.24153$qW.15458@trnddc06...
so that individuals such as myself can sort the trash for recycling or
dumping and do our bit to save the Earth. I just love it when you get
a plastic bag from the grocery store and there is a bin outside so that
you can recycle (melt down and make a new bag) instead of taking
it into the store and refilling it the next time you shop. What the fuck
is wrong with taking your one gallon milk container to the store
and refilling that too? And your soap dish. Even spuds and carrots
have to be washed and bagged, you can't do that yourself.
In ten more years we'll be buying our own mass spectrometers
to analyse the type of plastic so that we can sort polypropylene
from cellulose acetate and know which bin to throw it away in.
Vandals won't be smashing up phone booths anymore now that
we all have cell phones, they'll be mixing the trash instead.
Sod it, let it happen. When all the ice covering Greenland has
melted we can use the land and recycle our cities. Let Florida
go underwater, it's only a retirement home anyway.
V-for-Vendicar
"Androcles" <Headm...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote
> In ten more years we'll be buying our own mass spectrometers
> to analyse the type of plastic so that we can sort polypropylene
> from cellulose acetate and know which bin to throw it away in.
No need. Look at the bottom of almost any plastic container and you will
see a triangle with a number inside it.
That number represents the type of plastic the containter is made from.