interstellar chemistry
Allan Adler
have been detected by spectroscopic methods in interstellar space. I'd like
to know more about how such chemicals have been able to form under such
conditions. Is there a good book that discusses some of the reactions that
are thought to have led to the formation of the chemicals that have been
detected by these methods. Can you recommend one?
The origin of elements from stars is called "nucleosynthesis". What is
the corresponding term for the origin of interstellar molecules?
--
Ignorantly,
Allan Adler <a...@zurich.csail.mit.edu>
* Disclaimer: I am a guest and *not* a member of the MIT CSAIL. My actions and
* comments do not reflect in any way on MIT. Also, I am nowhere near Boston.
Fred Kasner
> On 21 Jul 2007 09:01:24 -0400, Allan Adler <a...@nestle.csail.mit.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm aware that some fairly complicated chemicals, including organic chemicals,
>> have been detected by spectroscopic methods in interstellar space. I'd like
>> to know more about how such chemicals have been able to form under such
>> conditions. Is there a good book that discusses some of the reactions that
>> are thought to have led to the formation of the chemicals that have been
>> detected by these methods. Can you recommend one?
>>
>
>
> S Kwok, The synthesis of organic and inorganic compounds in evolved
> stars. Nature 430:985, 8/26/04.
>
> R L Hudson, Astrochemistry examples in the classroom. J Chem Educ
> 83:1611, 11/06.
>
>> The origin of elements from stars is called "nucleosynthesis". What is
>> the corresponding term for the origin of interstellar molecules?
>
> for searches you might try astrochemistry and cosmochemistry.
>
> bob
The earliest work that was experimental rather than conjectural was that
of Stanley Miller at the U. of Chicago doctoral thesis. He truly
deserved the Nobel Prize for this but never got it. Miller died recently.
FK
Tom Kerr
>I'm aware that some fairly complicated chemicals, including organic chemicals,
>have been detected by spectroscopic methods in interstellar space. I'd like
>to know more about how such chemicals have been able to form under such
>conditions. Is there a good book that discusses some of the reactions that
>are thought to have led to the formation of the chemicals that have been
>detected by these methods. Can you recommend one?
I would recommend A.G.G.M. Tielens' book "The Physics and Chemistry of the
Interstellar Medium" (2005, Cambridge University Press). It's pretty much
up-to-date and very thorough. The references in that book are also very
useful.
>The origin of elements from stars is called "nucleosynthesis". What is
>the corresponding term for the origin of interstellar molecules?
As Bob already mentioned, I'm not aware of an equivalent term other than
"interstellar chemistry". There are several different processes in both
the gas and solid phase so I think coming up with a term that covers
everything is difficult.
Marvin
Miller's experiments mimicked conditions that might have
occurred on early earth. They were not interstellar conditions.
Fred Kasner
I was of the opinion (seems rational) that inter stellar means 'between
stars'. If a planet is not part of a star (and that is clearly true)
then it is certainly interstellar.
FK
Martin Brown
> I'm aware that some fairly complicated chemicals, including organic chemicals,
> have been detected by spectroscopic methods in interstellar space. I'd like
> to know more about how such chemicals have been able to form under such
> conditions. Is there a good book that discusses some of the reactions that
> are thought to have led to the formation of the chemicals that have been
> detected by these methods. Can you recommend one?
Not a book but an online Powerpoint presentation which summarises a
fair amount of what is known and what is not.
http://nobel133.physto.se/Programme/Sunday/1415-1545/Millar.ppt
A catalogue of possible/known reactions, conditions and rate constants
is online at UMIST
http://www.udfa.net
> The origin of elements from stars is called "nucleosynthesis". What is
> the corresponding term for the origin of interstellar molecules?
Interstellar chemistry in molecular clouds. I don't think anyone has
bothered to give it a special name.
Regards,
Martin Brown
Tom Kerr
[...]
>I was of the opinion (seems rational) that inter stellar means 'between
>stars'. If a planet is not part of a star (and that is clearly true)
>then it is certainly interstellar.
Those that work in studying the interstellar medium generally
refer to "interstellar" as meaning what happens in "space", in other words
what happens in the near-vacuum between stars. That does actually mean a
variety of environments, from a benign "vacuum" to a relatively dense
molecular cloud, but chemical reactions occuring on planets is not
something that's regarded as interstellar.
A planet offers a very different environment compared to space. For
example, it may have an atmosphere. It would be confusing to include the
chemical reactions that happen in such an environment (e.g., the Miller
experiment) with those that happen in space.
Marvin
Your logic is flawless, but your definition doesn't fit what
most people think. In an online dictionary,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=interstellar
the example given is "the density of hydrogen in
interplanetary and interstellar space", which doesn't agree
with your definition.
>
> FK
hanson
"Marvin" <phys...@cloud9.net> wrote in message
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I trust that either of you guys been up more than 5 miles
in a flight situation that you are so *assertive*
about the conditions out there.... ahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs... ahaha... ahahanson
Androcles
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
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:
: "Marvin" <phys...@cloud9.net> wrote in message
I did manage 1800' ASL one Sunday afternoon in South Wales,
but I cheated. I started out at 350' ASL and 50 years younger.
Mind you, it was a walking situation.
Fred Kasner
Why are you lecturing me (I have a PhD. in physical chemistry from the
U. of Chicago)? You act as if you were talking to some grade school
student. My point clearly was the ill advised term that was employed.
That criticism is independent of the nature of planets and their
atmospheres as well as other objects found in interstellar space and the
densities of dust and gas clouds in space. In point of fact almost all
of those large dust and gas clouds in space are really very low density
materials but of very great extent. Their ability to obscure radiation
passing through them is not so much a function of their density as a
function of their spatial extent.
The average density of matter in the universe (omitting the possibility
of dark matter) is about one hydrogen atom per cubic centimetre.
FK
Fred Kasner
I see the laughing hyena idiot has returned to disgrace himself yet again.
FK
hanson
himself as an *assertive Jew** (his words) as he wrote in his fuming
news:dF9pi.23858$RX....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
>
Allan Adler <a...@nestle.csail.mit.edu> wrote:
I'm aware that some fairly complicated chemicals, including organic
chemicals, have been detected by spectroscopic methods in
interstellar space.
>
S Kwok, The synthesis of organic and inorganic compounds in evolved
stars. Nature 430:985, 8/26/04.
R L Hudson, Astrochemistry examples in the classroom. J Chem Educ
83:1611, 11/06.
The origin of elements from stars is called "nucleosynthesis". What
is the corresponding term for the origin of interstellar molecules?
Not sure there is anything as well accepted as nucleosynthesis, but
for searches you might try astrochemistry and cosmochemistry.
bob
>
The earliest work that was experimental rather than conjectural was
that of Stanley Miller at the U. of Chicago doctoral thesis. He truly
deserved the Nobel Prize for this but never got it. Miller died
recently. FK
>
Miller's experiments mimicked conditions that might have occurred on
early earth. They were not interstellar conditions.
>>>>
I was of the opinion (seems rational, [but only in Kaz's assertive mind])
that inter stellar means 'between stars'. If a planet is not part of a star
(and that is clearly true) then it is certainly interstellar.
>
your definition doesn't fit what most people think. In an online dictionary,
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=interstellar
the example given is "the density of hydrogen in interplanetary and
interstellar space", which doesn't agree with your definition.
>
Those that work in studying the interstellar medium generally referto
>
Kaz wrote to Kerr:
Why are you lecturing me (I have a PhD. in physical chemistry from the
U. of Chicago)? You act as if you were talking to some grade school
student.
>
Kaz is that [?] of yours a Freudian slip again? See Sid Snead's
remark below, about treating your expressions with suspicion
... ahahahaha.... ahahahaha...
[hanson orig]
yeah... and then there is "intergalactic" space...
I trust that either of you guys been up more than 5 miles
in a flight situation that you are so *assertive*
about the conditions out there.... ahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs... ahaha... ahahanson
>
[Kaz to hanson]
I see the laughing hyena idiot has returned to disgrace himself yet again.
FK
>
[hanson]
.... ahahaha... So, Kaz, it looks like you try to weasel out from
under a situation where you embarrassed yourself... AHAHAHA...
The bigoted racist and hate filled Fred Kasner demonstrated
again, *in his own words*, how to be an assertive **Jew**...
But Kaz, you are just as obnoxious as you were in your last
demonstration where you also behaved like this brother-in-ilk
of yours: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f & in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d183ad854c48ca6c...
after which Sid Snead's observation can be applied by saying:
"I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the clarity
of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions as suspect,
since, being a Jew, he believes that what is good for Jews is
more important than the truth".
Shalom, Kaz... ahahahaha... ahahahahanson
>
Fred Kasner
Still the hyena syndrom on display, Hanson? I am sad to find out that
you are a human rather than a programmed computer. It speaks ill for the
human race to find examples of it such as you. You have been amusing
lately so I canceled my kill file on you. However if you become your
usual offensive self once again I'll have to return you to the kill file.
FK
Androcles
"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Miserable cunt. Fuck off and enjoy being sad.
hanson
"Androcles" <Engi...@hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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>
.... ahahaha... "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> cranked
himself as an *assertive Jew** (his words) as he wrote in his fuming
news:dF9pi.23858$RX....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
>
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> w/i news:6Cbpi.2824$Da.1984@trnddc07...
[Kaz]
Still the hyena syndrom on display, Hanson? I am sad to find out that
you are a human rather than a programmed computer. It speaks ill for the
human race to find examples of it such as you. You have been amusing
lately so I canceled my kill file on you. However if you become your
usual offensive self once again I'll have to return you to the kill file.
FK
>
[Andro to Kaz]
Miserable cunt. Fuck off and enjoy being sad.
>
[hanson to Kaz]
... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... See, what does happen
to you, Kaz, when you put my "Shalom" to you down, and you
keep threatening me with your kill-file, & much worse, when you
blame the whole human race for my, to you undesirable, existence
when you OTOH apparently tolerate without any constraints
specimens from your own ilk that behave like this one here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
>
BTW, what was so offensive on my part? All I did is was to report
public activities that YOU yourself, your OWN family and your
OWN ilk have posted... If it was offensive then you should
have kept your stereotypically loud AsheNazi mouth shut
in the first place and you should advice you own ilk to be
nicer to/with your neighbors and stop behaving like this one:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
Now, Kaz, because of your continued, contemplated draconian
threats to kill file me I must tell you that your action leaves me
no choice then to invoke Sid Snead's axiom which says:
"I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the clarity
of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions as suspect,
since, being a Jew, he believes that what is good for Jews is
more important than the truth".
Are you happy now, Kaz?... Shalom, Kaz... ahahahahanson
Tom Kerr
>Tom Kerr wrote:
>> In article <s_Noi.23790$Rw1....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
> fka...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> I was of the opinion (seems rational) that inter stellar means 'between
>>> stars'. If a planet is not part of a star (and that is clearly true)
>>> then it is certainly interstellar.
>>
>> Those that work in studying the interstellar medium generally
>> refer to "interstellar" as meaning what happens in "space", in other words
>> what happens in the near-vacuum between stars. That does actually mean a
>> variety of environments, from a benign "vacuum" to a relatively dense
>> molecular cloud, but chemical reactions occuring on planets is not
>> something that's regarded as interstellar.
>>
>> A planet offers a very different environment compared to space. For
>> example, it may have an atmosphere. It would be confusing to include the
>> chemical reactions that happen in such an environment (e.g., the Miller
>> experiment) with those that happen in space.
>
>Why are you lecturing me (I have a PhD. in physical chemistry from the
You know, as soon as someone posts that they have a PhD and implies they
shouldn't be questioned about some claim they make rings alarm bells.
I don't care if you have a PhD in physical chemistry; you wrote:
"I was of the opinion (seems rational) that inter stellar means 'between
stars'. If a planet is not part of a star (and that is clearly true)
then it is certainly interstellar."
Your opinion is not shared by those that work in the field. Simple as
that. I told you what the accepted convention is. That you haven't made
any contribution to the field of interstellar chemistry only helps to
confirm your opinion is quite worthless, whether you have a PhD or not.
hanson
AHAHAHA... "Tom Kerr" <thk...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:46a70ed9$0$25582$ed96...@news.felx.com...
> In article <1E9pi.23856$RX.2...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>,
fka...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>Tom Kerr wrote:
>>> In article <s_Noi.23790$Rw1....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
>> fka...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> I was of the opinion (seems rational) that inter stellar means 'between
>>>> stars'. If a planet is not part of a star (and that is clearly true)
>>>> then it is certainly interstellar.
>>>
>>> Those that work in studying the interstellar medium generally
>>> refer to "interstellar" as meaning what happens in "space", in other
>>> words
>>> what happens in the near-vacuum between stars. That does actually mean a
>>> variety of environments, from a benign "vacuum" to a relatively dense
>>> molecular cloud, but chemical reactions occuring on planets is not
>>> something that's regarded as interstellar.
>>> A planet offers a very different environment compared to space. For
>>> example, it may have an atmosphere. It would be confusing to include the
>>> chemical reactions that happen in such an environment (e.g., the Miller
>>> experiment) with those that happen in space.
>>
>>Why are you lecturing me (I have a PhD. in physical chemistry from the
>>U. of Chicago)? [...]
>
> You know, as soon as someone posts that they have a PhD and implies they
> shouldn't be questioned about some claim they make rings alarm bells.
> I don't care if you have a PhD in physical chemistry; you wrote:
>
> ::K:: 'between stars'. If a planet is not part of a star (and that is
> ::K:: clearly true) then it is certainly interstellar."
>
> Your opinion is not shared by those that work in the field. Simple as
> that. I told you what the accepted convention is. That you haven't made
> any contribution to the field of interstellar chemistry only helps to
> confirm your opinion is quite worthless, whether you have a PhD or not.
>
.... ahahahaha.... Kaz, see what happens when you exhibit the
"ass-ertive Jew" which you have promoted and exemplified...
Not even your alleged PhD is gonna help you, which took you,
according to your own recent post, 6 long years to get... ahahaha...
>
See, Kaz, all you get for your stereotypical assertiveness is that
folks do invoke the --Sid Snead axiom-- which declares that:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth".
>
See, Kaz, this a new kind of hidden but very widespread &
spreading kind of Neo-Anti-Semitism, exclusively spread by
you and your ilk. You of course must know that, because
nobody is born anti-Semitic, but "assertive Jews" like you
are great teachers and promoters for it... you fully knowing
that you are on a mission as a soldier in Israel's ex PM Ariel
Sharon's Army of Light to follow/emulate his orders that read:
>
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1003.shtml
::Sharon:: .... we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the
::Sharon:: Middle East! We might start World War Three.
::Sharon:: We might use nuclear arms. We are **Judeo-Nazis**.
::Sharon:: I am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary.
::Sharon:: ** I will do all I can to increase Anti-Semitism **, and be
::Sharon:: prepared to absorb the Yids I will force to flee to this
::Sharon:: country and teach them to be a light unto the gentiles.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e5bffaea692a1650
>
Shalom & L'Chaim, Kaz. .. And thanks for the laughs, you guys!
ahahahaha.... ahahahanson
Fred Kasner
Your hyena-like hysterical laughter does not provide any cover for your
hate filled semi-rhetoric. What seems to annoy you the most is my
Jewishness not anything that I write. Oh wait! I understand now. Your
really can't understand anything I write. You are really semi-literate
with a very low comprehension skill. Best is your unsupportable
assumption that I am as one with anyone else who claims to be a Jew.
Remember that claiming to be a Jew is a religious preference only. Mine
is merely my response to what preceded the big bang and also a
refutation that a complicated universe of vast dimensions is not a
purely chance occurence. Laws of behavior other than ethics of primitive
cultures leave a great deal to desired in a world where even the filthy
pig can be prepared for consumption without too much danger of disease.
Speaking of filthy pigs, I don't see how your embrace of a language I
don't speak in any way shields you from the contempt which you richly
earn by repeated stupidities.
FK
Fred Kasner
Of course my opinion is not that of one who works in the field of
astronomy. Thus you can see fit to ignore such an opinion as you will.
However my having made a rational argument for the use of the term only
points out that rationale be damned, a definition is correct by definition.
FK
Fred Kasner
Five of those years were spent as a full time instructor and then
Assistant Professor of Physical Science in the College of the University
of Chicago. Generally serious experimental work was only possible (each
experiment usually took several days of observations before enough
stability of the equipment allowed the actual fifteen minutes or so of
observations.) It was an academic pit. And the complicated calculations
required 6 months of 8 hour days followed by three months of composition
of the thesis including graphs and tables without benefit of word
processors and copying machines. I wouldn't wish such a regimen on even
a despicable person such as yourself, hyena hanson.
FK
Androcles
Kaz, this has the benefit of a computer:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Instead of running off at the mouth, see if you can fault it, ASSistant
Professor.
hanson
"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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hanson wrote:
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In article <1E9pi.23856$RX.2...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>,
fka...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Tom Kerr wrote:
In article <s_Noi.23790$Rw1....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
Five of those years were spent as a full time instructor and then
Assistant Professor of Physical Science in the College of the University
of Chicago. Generally serious experimental work was only possible (each
experiment usually took several days of observations before enough
stability of the equipment allowed the actual fifteen minutes or so of
observations.) It was an academic pit. And the complicated calculations
required 6 months of 8 hour days followed by three months of composition
of the thesis including graphs and tables without benefit of word
processors and copying machines. I wouldn't wish such a regimen on even
a despicable person such as yourself, hyena hanson.
FK
>
Kaz, this has the benefit of a computer:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Instead of running off at the mouth, see if you can fault it,
ASSistant Professor.
>
Awe, Kaz, awe, you make my heart bleed with your alleged
suffering of being so stereotypically "victimized"... ahahaha..
However let it be said that I did not ask you for a whining
confession about your hardship to which I must apply anyway
the --Sid Snead's axiom-- (see above). Luckily you have now
been given a real GRAND CHANCE to prove and redeem
yourself by reviewing and commenting on Androcles' fine work
and be the referee on his
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Don't blow that offer now, Kaz! -- You are a ggod man, Kaz
hanson
hanson
Your hyena-like hysterical laughter does not provide any cover
for your hate filled semi-rhetoric.
>
Kaz, Kaz, Kaz, you are out-right geriatrically paranoid unless
you show me what it is that is so hate filled what I have said?
I just repeated and commented without any malice on public
items that YOU or YOUR ilk has posted about . But you come
back & curse me in the stereotypical Ashkenazim way with
calling me in this thread alone "idiot" and "pig". Kaz that
does show YOUR stereotypical hate and bigotry, not mine.
>
[Kaz]
What seems to annoy you the most is my Jewishness not anything
that I write. Oh wait! I understand now. Your really can't understand
anything I write. You are really semi-literate with a very low
comprehension skill. Best is your unsupportable assumption
>
[hanson]
Kaz, if you would annoy me I would not post with you. You are
fun, Kaz, especially when you are whupping yourself into a
lather like you do in your post here, and especially when you
claim [1] to be a special Jew and begin to rail and behaveLook at it again, study it, and recognize the similarities, Kaz
>
[Kaz]
Remember that claiming to be a Jew is a religious preference only.
>
What a flip-flopper you are, Kaz. A few weeks back you
went to great length insisting that not religion but folks with
a few ancient DNA markers, even Black Ethiopians, are
entitled to be full-fledged Jews. Not that I do care. But it was
YOU who brought that up with great fanfare. It was funny.
ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....
>
[Kaz]
Mine is merely my response to what preceded the big bang
and also a refutation that a complicated universe of vast
dimensions is not a purely chance occurence.
>
... ahahaha... ahaha.. AHAHAHAHA... So, your Jewishness
preceeds the Big Bang?... and you refute, IOW you do know
that there was some God, in your case the oye-weh-Yahweh
that orcestrated the whole thing and gave your Moshe some
stone tablets to live by because your (your ancient ilk) was not
inately smart enough to exercise prodcitve socialo bejhaivor?
ahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha....
>
[Kaz]
Laws of behavior other than ethics of primitive cultures leave
a great deal to desired in a world where even the filthy pig can
be prepared for consumption without too much danger of disease.
Speaking of filthy pigs, I don't see how your embrace of a language I
don't speak in any way shields you from the contempt which you
richly earn by repeated stupidities.
> FK
>
Kaz, pull yourself together. See, how you now again behave so
stereotypically Jewish by aggrandizing yourself and looking
down on other cultures when your own one has not figured
out yet that is safe to eat pork. Kaz you just gave an example
of stereotypical Jewish hatred, bigotry and racism... hahaha....
>
Kaz, read these 2 posts here.
This one is my view to a goyim whom your ilk has scared badly:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e865a816a8c7b6fd
>
This one is to a Jew that puts loyalty to Israel way before his
loyalty to his native homeland, the USA, where he lives off
the public trough.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e5bffaea692a1650
I bet you will NOT enjoy it.
ahahaha... ahahahanson
Tom Kerr
>ahahahaha.... Good One.... ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHAHA...
*plonk*
hanson
ahahaha... It was too hot for you in the kitchen, wasn't it? Kaz
fucked and smoked you, didn't he... ahahaha...So, I'll keep an
eye on you, and I will have what it says in here, you RSFAUM:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/f232cf15901ce7ba
...
Thanks iA... ahahahaha.... ahahahahananson
Fred Kasner
You are a real joke, hyena-man.
FK
Fred Kasner
You hyena-man have absolutely no idea whatever where my primary loyalty
lies. You just assume it does not lie with the USA. Tha in itself is
proof certain of your stereotyping based on inherent anti-semitism.
You are one sick hyena.
FK
Fred Kasner
laughs read your posts. So it is back to the kill file for you.
FK
Androcles
Kaz doesn't like his balls squeezed, does he?
Androcles
Squeal, squeak! What a reaction!
Hanson has you by the balls, little boy, and he's barely squeezing.
Answer him instead of trying to attack, his skin is almost as thick
as mine but his wit is sharper.
Androcles
Snip what you cannot answer, typical fuckhead.
Fred Kasner
Hye, hyena-man, was that you who tried to fondle my gonads in a packed
elevator the other day. Gee, I didn't know you were such a flaming faggot.
FK
Androcles
Not unless your nuts are big enough to stretch across the Atlantic and even
then I'd only tickle them with a lancet or a 4" vise. I fondle American and
British
women but obviously some woolly woofter took a fancy to you.
Couldn't fault it, huh?
Here it is again but we now know where your head's at, sniffing hyena balls.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
hanson
fantasized in his urgent message
news:gwQsi.2890$AC7...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
and yearned while he feverishly peeked into his kill file:
>
ahahahaha.... Good One.... getting better ... #3... AHAHAHAHA...
You are a real joke, hyena-man.
>>
Kaz doesn't like his balls squeezed, does he?
>
> Hye, hyena-man, was that you who tried to fondle my gonads
> in a packed elevator the other day.
> Gee, I didn't know you were such a flaming faggot.
> FK
>
... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
"Hye"... ain't you excited, you fat old geezer...ahahaha...
.... But Kaz, it was NOT me who referred to anything sexual.
Only you in your stereotypically Jewish / AshkeNazi mind had
to express & project your homo fantasies, like these ones here:
Settlers:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
>
Lieberman
http://www.uncorrelated.com/images/DailyKos01.jpg
>
To boot, Kaz, you had such a stereotypical loudmouth, telling
me numerous times that you had put me into your kill file... ahaha..
But you just can't stay away from me, you fat old Yidd... ahaha..
& now you mconfess to have homosexual dreams about me ...
ahahaha.... ahahaha...
Did your yenta cut you off?... I could understand her, Kaz, given
the way you behave. Give her a hug from me, and tell her that I
wish she would relieve you from your misery... ahahahaha...
.. or is she so ugly that YOU have dreams now about being
fondled by strange men in elevators?.... AHAHAHAHA....
>
BTW, just to clear the air, Kaz. There are no elevators here in
Rarotonga... Thanks for the laughs, Kaz... ahahahanson
>
PS:
Now go and referee Andro's Website:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
He asked you very politely.
Fred Kasner
> http://www.uncorrelated.com/images/DailyKos01.jpg
> To boot, Kaz, you had such a stereotypical loudmouth, telling
> me numerous times that you had put me into your kill file... ahaha..
> But you just can't stay away from me, you fat old Yidd... ahaha..
> & now you mconfess to have homosexual dreams about me ...
> ahahaha.... ahahaha...
>
> Did your yenta cut you off?... I could understand her, Kaz, given
> the way you behave. Give her a hug from me, and tell her that I
> wish she would relieve you from your misery... ahahahaha...
> .. or is she so ugly that YOU have dreams now about being
> fondled by strange men in elevators?.... AHAHAHAHA....
> BTW, just to clear the air, Kaz. There are no elevators here in
> Rarotonga... Thanks for the laughs, Kaz... ahahahanson
> PS:
> Now go and referee Andro's Website:
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
> He asked you very politely.
>
>
>
Hey, hyena_man, stop laughing long enough to deal with fact.
I tried to put you into my kill file but something is wrong with it and
you keep getting through. Could be you really have listed yourself by
another name in your smtp settings and just have another fake name of
hanson the hyena for screen display.
And in point of fact I am not fat, dumbo! Perhaps you are fat and can't
believe that others are equally incapable of maintaining a healthy
weight. My late wife was not your ideal woman: a yenta. She was born to
Christian people but learned from me that it was polytheism and lived
and died a Jew a wonderful person who was quite beatiful who all
admired. I notice how much you have to say about homosexuality. Are you
perhaps a repressed homosexual? I would not be too surprised. All that
hysteria, sounds like homosexual panic. I doubt if I were inclined to
dream about any person that you would be such a subject. You come across
less than human.
FK
Androcles
: ... snip ...
Ok, if you insist.
Mission accomplished. I can snip quite well, don't you think?
But can you fault this, ASSistant Jackass?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
hanson
fantasized in his urgent message
news:gwQsi.2890$AC7...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
... and now Homo-Kaz keeps again coming onto me:news:Kx6ti.739$rG7...@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> ... was that you who tried to fondle my gonads in a packed
>> elevator the other day....
> ... snip ...
>
[hanson]
... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
.... But Kaz, it was NOT me who referred to anything sexual.
Only you in your stereotypically Jewish / AshkeNazi mind had
to express & project your homo fantasies, like these ones
Settler, a Jewish archetype:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
>
Lieberman on his knees:
http://www.uncorrelated.com/images/DailyKos01.jpg
>
exPM Ariel Sharon, Genersal of the Army of Light, orders:
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1003.shtml
::Sharon:: .... we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the
::Sharon:: Middle East! We might start World War Three.
::Sharon:: We might use nuclear arms. We are **Judeo-Nazis**.
::Sharon:: I am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary.
::Sharon:: ** I will do all I can to increase Anti-Semitism **, and be
::Sharon:: prepared to absorb the Yids I will force to flee to this
::Sharon:: country and teach them to be a light unto the gentiles
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e5bffaea692a1650
> ... snip ...
>
To boot, Kaz, you had such a stereotypical loudmouth, telling
me numerous times that you had put me into your kill file... ahaha..
But you just can't stay away from me, you fat old Yidd... ahaha..
& now you mconfess to have homosexual dreams about me ...
ahahaha.... ahahaha...
Did your yenta cut you off?... I could understand her, Kaz, given
the way you behave. Give her a hug from me, and tell her that I
wish she would relieve you from your misery... ahahahaha...
.. or is she so ugly that YOU have dreams now about being
fondled by strange men in elevators?.... AHAHAHAHA....
>
BTW, just to clear the air, Kaz. There are no elevators here in
Rarotonga... ahahaha....
>
Now go and referee Andro's Website:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
He asked you very politely.
>
Thanks for the laughs, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson
>
>
[Kaz]
Hey, hyena_man, stop laughing long enough to deal with fact.
>
[hanson]
"Stop"...Why? ... to be an uptight fegele, like you, Kaz?
What facts?... Your sordid opinions?... to which invariably
Sid Snead's axiom applies, that
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth".
>
[Kaz]
I tried to put you into my kill file but something is wrong with it and
you keep getting through. Could be you really have listed yourself
by another name in your smtp settings and just have another fake
name of hanson the hyena for screen display.
>
[hanson]
.... So, there's something wrong with your killfile now?... ahaha...
... and that is because according to your theory it is my fault...
No wonder it took you six years to get your alleged Ph.D...ahaha
ahahaha... Kaz, the answer is simple & obvious: Snead's axiom!
>
[Kaz]
And in point of fact I am not fat, dumbo! Perhaps you are fat and
can't believe that others are equally incapable of maintaining a
healthy weight.
>
[hanson]
"in point of fact" your Freudian slip says that you are a "fat dumbo".
But keep lying to yourself, Kaz. Your ilk is known for that habit
and for being stocky and fat....ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....
>
[Kaz]
My late wife was not your ideal woman: a yenta. She was born to
Christian people but learned from me that it was polytheism and
lived and died a Jew a wonderful person who was quite beatiful
who all admired.
[hanson]
Wow, that is low, fatso! First you bagged on your own Daughter
and now you denigrate your late Wife as "not your ideal woman",
using her to keep on aggrandizing yourself that she "learned
from Kaz, the Jew" & then "died as a wonderful Jew"... WOW!
Kaz, if your teachings to her were anything like the self-anointing
megalomaniac shit you have been talking in these NGs about
yourself then she must have died of grief and sorrow... with or
without your oye-weh-Yahweh. Again, Kaz, your phony sob story
with your empty Haiku shows Sid Snead's axiom in full action.
>
[Kaz]
I notice how much you have to say about homosexuality. Are you
perhaps a repressed homosexual? I would not be too surprised.
All that hysteria, sounds like homosexual panic. I doubt if I were
inclined to dream about any person that you would be such a
subject. You come across less than human.
FK
>
[Kaz]
... ahaha.. weasel, weasel, weasel, gay fatty Kaz. It was YOU
and no-one else you started to come on to me with your
yearnings to have you gonads fondled, you dirty olde kacker...
ahaha... Listen, Kaz it is well known that the max ratio of homos
lies with your own ilk. Nothing new about that, and I don't care.
But gayety is not my bag, homo-Kaz. Look for Homo-yentzers
elsewhere... ahahaha...
>
It is also quite telling that since you now know that you can't get
what you want, you stereotypically call me "less than human"
.. in your follow-up to your wife who was "not your ideal woman".
You are the stereotypical prototype of a Jew, Kaz. What I can't
understand why so many Jews, like you, & those Israel-1st loyalty
US kikes, do work so very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse
into becoming a self-filling prophesy which Hitler broadcast just
before his demise in 45, in which he said: **"in a 100 years from
now the world will be grateful for what I have started".**
>
Why, Kaz, why? .... 62 down, only 38 to go...
>
I guess it must have to do with the order from your General of the
Army of light who said: "We are **Judeo-Nazis**, a disgrace to
humanity, [but] I don't mind, on the contrary. I will teach them to
be a light unto the gentiles"... Some light you are, Kaz... ahaha...
>
What is it exactly now, Kaz, why you keep running after me, and
coming on to me if it is not for your geriatic homo yearings?...
Do you wanna teach me how to be Jewish?... ahahaha....
If so, what would be in it for me, Kaz?.... What, Kaz, what?
>
ahahaha... ahahahanson