Alan Baker vs Larry's Swing

[David Laville]

Several weeks ago Larry posted a video link to his swing and we had to
hear how much better Alan Baker thought his swing was than Larry's.
Well here it is, Alan Baker's swing compared to Larry's. In this
comparison you will see how flawed Alan Baker's swing is and how much
better Larry does it;

http://lavillegolfacademy.com/bakervslarry/index.html

Enjoy!

[Donzee]

"David Laville" <dlav...@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:b6bmi7p4tpa189qvc...@4ax.com...

They're going to love this at CSMA. Many Thanks.

[Alan Baker]

In article <b6bmi7p4tpa189qvc...@4ax.com>,

So then you'll be happy to live up to your wager?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[Frank Ketchum]

"David Laville" <dlav...@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:b6bmi7p4tpa189qvc...@4ax.com...

David,

I'm no golf instructor but I must point out one thing. The photo of Alan's
head in front of the ball at impact is irrelevant since the camera angle is
not straight on. See how in Larry's picture the camera is positioned dead
on line with him and the ball whereas in Alan's picture the camera is well
ahead looking back on an angle. It is impossible to tell from that picture
where Alan's head is. Don't believe me? Walk out in front at about a 30
degree angle as in that picture of someone standing with their head just
behind the ball and see how you really can't tell.

Not saying Alan's head in fact is behind the ball, just saying that picture
is pretty useless in that regard.

The same problem happens when using a picture or video to determine when a
swing is on plane or not when the camera itself is not positioned on the
swing plane.

[Alan Baker]

In article <McGWq.5899$9j5....@newsfe09.iad>,

Thank you for pointing out the obvious for me, Frank.

I appreciate the candor.

[David Laville]

You may want to Google his exchange when he accepted a challenge to
show up at someone's door step for a face to face meeting and has been
coming up with excuse after excuse ever since for not wanting to show
up.

[David Laville]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:50:10 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote:

>In article <b6bmi7p4tpa189qvc...@4ax.com>,
> David Laville <dlav...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Several weeks ago Larry posted a video link to his swing and we had to
>> hear how much better Alan Baker thought his swing was than Larry's.
>> Well here it is, Alan Baker's swing compared to Larry's. In this
>> comparison you will see how flawed Alan Baker's swing is and how much
>> better Larry does it;
>>
>> http://lavillegolfacademy.com/bakervslarry/index.html
>>
>> Enjoy!
>
>So then you'll be happy to live up to your wager?

SURE!

[Alan Baker]

In article <fecmi7158bvpm4afr...@4ax.com>,

Nope. That's a fantasy you've invented.

:-)

--
"The iPhone doesn't have...
...well, since Edwin seems to have finally crawled away for good,
I guess I'll let him off the hook

[Alan Baker]

In article <3lcmi75hsd5dirp6p...@4ax.com>,

David Laville <dlav...@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:50:10 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <b6bmi7p4tpa189qvc...@4ax.com>,
> > David Laville <dlav...@nospam.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Several weeks ago Larry posted a video link to his swing and we had to
> >> hear how much better Alan Baker thought his swing was than Larry's.
> >> Well here it is, Alan Baker's swing compared to Larry's. In this
> >> comparison you will see how flawed Alan Baker's swing is and how much
> >> better Larry does it;
> >>
> >> http://lavillegolfacademy.com/bakervslarry/index.html
> >>
> >> Enjoy!
> >
> >So then you'll be happy to live up to your wager?
>
> SURE!

Great.

Larry seemed to be extremely confident he could win the match, so start
talking to him about a date. As long as its a couple of months in the
future, I'm pretty flexible.

[David Laville]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:57:57 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote:

>> The same problem happens when using a picture or video to determine when a
>> swing is on plane or not when the camera itself is not positioned on the
>> swing plane.
>
>Thank you for pointing out the obvious for me, Frank.
>
>I appreciate the candor.

This is funny when several weeks ago you admitted to Bobby Knight your
head was in front of the ball at impact and you were doing it the
whole range session.

[David Laville]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:05:01 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote:

>> You may want to Google his exchange when he accepted a challenge to
>> show up at someone's door step for a face to face meeting and has been
>> coming up with excuse after excuse ever since for not wanting to show
>> up.
>
>Nope. That's a fantasy you've invented.

Really, so when are you going to show up at Greg's door?

[Alan Baker]

In article <pmdmi7ds8sp6obmva...@4ax.com>,

I told you before: when I have sufficient reason to be traveling in that
part of the country.

[David Laville]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:06:43 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote:

>Great.
>
>Larry seemed to be extremely confident he could win the match, so start
>talking to him about a date. As long as its a couple of months in the
>future, I'm pretty flexible.

ROTFLMAO! You originally told us you would show up at Greg's door
when it was convenient for you. Since you're pretty flexible with a
couple of months notice when are you showing up at Greg's door?

[Alan Baker]

In article <0pdmi7d7uvdie09n4...@4ax.com>,

There's a difference between agreeing to a trip which will take me away
from friends and job and hockey for a grand...

...and one that I'd be making for no other reason.

Is going on and on about visiting Greg your way of backing out of your
challenge?

Let's focus on that, shall we: you claimed that Larry could beat me,
said you'd be willing to wager on it, I declared that as long as it was
enough for it to be worth my while to come, I was in.

Now, you seem to be trying to crawl away from the wager you proposed.

Well?

[David Laville]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:29:22 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote:

>> ROTFLMAO! You originally told us you would show up at Greg's door
>> when it was convenient for you. Since you're pretty flexible with a
>> couple of months notice when are you showing up at Greg's door?
>
>There's a difference between agreeing to a trip which will take me away
>from friends and job and hockey for a grand...

And there's also a difference in not showing up at someone's door
after you said you would acting like an internet superman through the
safety of your computer......

>...and one that I'd be making for no other reason.

You have a reason, to see if Greg will say to your face what he said
he would.

>Is going on and on about visiting Greg your way of backing out of your
>challenge?

Is having excuse after excuse your way of not showing up at Greg's
door?

>Let's focus on that, shall we: you claimed that Larry could beat me,
>said you'd be willing to wager on it, I declared that as long as it was
>enough for it to be worth my while to come, I was in.

I have a better idea, lets focus on what happened first; you saying
"will do" when Greg invited you down to his house.

>Now, you seem to be trying to crawl away from the wager you proposed.

The wager is still on. When are you showing up at Greg's house?

[Alan Baker]

In article <ahemi7pr4hudai4bi...@4ax.com>,

David Laville <dlav...@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:29:22 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> ROTFLMAO! You originally told us you would show up at Greg's door
> >> when it was convenient for you. Since you're pretty flexible with a
> >> couple of months notice when are you showing up at Greg's door?
> >
> >There's a difference between agreeing to a trip which will take me away
> >from friends and job and hockey for a grand...
>
> And there's also a difference in not showing up at someone's door
> after you said you would acting like an internet superman through the
> safety of your computer......

I said I would, and I will.

But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
huh?

>
> >...and one that I'd be making for no other reason.
>
> You have a reason, to see if Greg will say to your face what he said
> he would.

But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
huh?

>
> >Is going on and on about visiting Greg your way of backing out of your
> >challenge?
>
> Is having excuse after excuse your way of not showing up at Greg's
> door?

But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
huh?

>
> >Let's focus on that, shall we: you claimed that Larry could beat me,
> >said you'd be willing to wager on it, I declared that as long as it was
> >enough for it to be worth my while to come, I was in.
>
> I have a better idea, lets focus on what happened first; you saying
> "will do" when Greg invited you down to his house.

Yup. And that's a matter between Greg and myself.

But let's stick to what's between you and me: the "Larry will clean your
clock" thing you claimed.

>
> >Now, you seem to be trying to crawl away from the wager you proposed.
>
> The wager is still on. When are you showing up at Greg's house?

You haven't set a date for the wager yet.

You said as long as I visit Greg on that trip, so the ball's in your
court...

As I said, I'm pretty flexible. If you schedule for a couple of months
out we can probably arrive at a mutually acceptable date pretty quickly.

Well... ..."tiger"?

[David Laville]

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:49:37 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote:

>> And there's also a difference in not showing up at someone's door
>> after you said you would acting like an internet superman through the
>> safety of your computer......
>
>I said I would, and I will.
>
>But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
>huh?

Translated = let's change this showing up at Greg's door thing, it's
making me look chickshit.

>> >...and one that I'd be making for no other reason.
>>
>> You have a reason, to see if Greg will say to your face what he said
>> he would.
>
>But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
>huh?

Translated = let's change this showing up at Greg's door thing, it's
making me look chickshit.

>> >Is going on and on about visiting Greg your way of backing out of your
>> >challenge?
>>
>> Is having excuse after excuse your way of not showing up at Greg's
>> door?
>
>But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
>huh?

Translated = let's change this showing up at Greg's door thing, it's
making me look chickshit.

>> >Let's focus on that, shall we: you claimed that Larry could beat me,
>> >said you'd be willing to wager on it, I declared that as long as it was
>> >enough for it to be worth my while to come, I was in.
>>
>> I have a better idea, lets focus on what happened first; you saying
>> "will do" when Greg invited you down to his house.
>
>Yup. And that's a matter between Greg and myself.

And RSG. Remember, it's YOU who tells Ken Pitts when ever he post
something to RSG it involves RSG. Double standards now, lefty?

>But let's stick to what's between you and me: the "Larry will clean your
>clock" thing you claimed.

Translated = let's change this showing up at Greg's door thing, it's
making me look chickshit.

>> >Now, you seem to be trying to crawl away from the wager you proposed.
>>
>> The wager is still on. When are you showing up at Greg's house?
>
>You haven't set a date for the wager yet.

Neither have you, dim wit.

>You said as long as I visit Greg on that trip, so the ball's in your
>court...

I'll talk to Larry.

>As I said, I'm pretty flexible. If you schedule for a couple of months
>out we can probably arrive at a mutually acceptable date pretty quickly.
>
>Well... ..."tiger"?

I'll talk to Larry.

[Alan Baker]

In article <ddfmi71948mf2v8ll...@4ax.com>,

David Laville <dlav...@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:49:37 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> And there's also a difference in not showing up at someone's door
> >> after you said you would acting like an internet superman through the
> >> safety of your computer......
> >
> >I said I would, and I will.
> >
> >But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
> >huh?
>
> Translated = let's change this showing up at Greg's door thing, it's
> making me look chickshit.

Nope. I already agreed to your stipulation...

...and here you are evading some more.

>
> >> >...and one that I'd be making for no other reason.
> >>
> >> You have a reason, to see if Greg will say to your face what he said
> >> he would.
> >
> >But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
> >huh?
>
> Translated = let's change this showing up at Greg's door thing, it's
> making me look chickshit.

Nope. I already agreed to your stipulation...

...and here you are evading some more.

>
> >> >Is going on and on about visiting Greg your way of backing out of your
> >> >challenge?
> >>
> >> Is having excuse after excuse your way of not showing up at Greg's
> >> door?
> >
> >But let's stick to the "Larry will clean your clock" thing you claimed,
> >huh?
>
> Translated = let's change this showing up at Greg's door thing, it's
> making me look chickshit.

Nope. I already agreed to your stipulation...

...and here you are evading some more.

>
> >> >Let's focus on that, shall we: you claimed that Larry could beat me,
> >> >said you'd be willing to wager on it, I declared that as long as it was
> >> >enough for it to be worth my while to come, I was in.
> >>
> >> I have a better idea, lets focus on what happened first; you saying
> >> "will do" when Greg invited you down to his house.
> >
> >Yup. And that's a matter between Greg and myself.
>
> And RSG. Remember, it's YOU who tells Ken Pitts when ever he post
> something to RSG it involves RSG. Double standards now, lefty?

If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

>
> >But let's stick to what's between you and me: the "Larry will clean your
> >clock" thing you claimed.
>
> Translated = let's change this showing up at Greg's door thing, it's
> making me look chickshit.

Nope. I already agreed to your stipulation...

...and here you are evading some more.

>
> >> >Now, you seem to be trying to crawl away from the wager you proposed.
> >>
> >> The wager is still on. When are you showing up at Greg's house?
> >
> >You haven't set a date for the wager yet.
>
> Neither have you, dim wit.

I know. I just told you that if you give me a couple of months lead
time, I'm pretty flexible on the date.

>
> >You said as long as I visit Greg on that trip, so the ball's in your
> >court...
>
> I'll talk to Larry.

Sure you will.

>
> >As I said, I'm pretty flexible. If you schedule for a couple of months
> >out we can probably arrive at a mutually acceptable date pretty quickly.
> >
> >Well... ..."tiger"?
>
> I'll talk to Larry.

I'll believe it when you get back with some answers.

[Donzee]

"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-547EC...@news.shawcable.net...

It should be *thanks for pulling my fat out of the fire, Frank, your
comments give me a tiny escape hole*.

[Alan Baker]

In article <jgff52$7qu$1...@dont-email.me>, "Donzee" <donz...@aol.com>
wrote:

LOL

So you're willing to put up your money, Michael?

Speak up now!

[MuahMan]

On Feb 2, 8:04 pm, David Laville <dlavi...@nospam.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 19:44:44 -0500, "Donzee" <donza...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >"David Laville" <dlavi...@nospam.net> wrote in message

> >news:b6bmi7p4tpa189qvc...@4ax.com...
> >> Several weeks ago Larry posted a video link to his swing and we had to
> >> hear how much better Alan Baker thought his swing was than Larry's.
> >> Well here it is, Alan Baker's swing compared to Larry's.  In this
> >> comparison you will see how flawed Alan Baker's swing is and how much
> >> better Larry does it;
>
> >>http://lavillegolfacademy.com/bakervslarry/index.html
>
> >> Enjoy!
>
> >They're going to love this at CSMA.  Many Thanks.
>
> You may want to Google his exchange when he accepted a challenge to
> show up at someone's door step for a face to face meeting and has been
> coming up with excuse after excuse ever since for not wanting to show
> up.

Haha. Typical.

He bet me and welched as well. Guess he didn't want to try his hand at
Doral.

[Donzee]

"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message

news:alangbaker-DF6C1...@news.shawcable.net...

Imaginary friend? I'll put up a few thou on you. If you win I make out.
If you lose you pay me and I make out anyways. It's win win. What say big
mouth?

[Sandman]

In article <jgfals$js9$1...@dont-email.me>, "Donzee" <donz...@aol.com>
wrote:

Why?

It appears to be images of people playing golf. I can't think of
anything that could be more boring. Please stop posting this in csma.


--
Sandman[.net]

[MNMikew]

"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message

news:alangbaker-0D8D6...@news.shawcable.net...

> In article <pmdmi7ds8sp6obmva...@4ax.com>,
> David Laville <dlav...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:05:01 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> You may want to Google his exchange when he accepted a challenge to
>> >> show up at someone's door step for a face to face meeting and has been
>> >> coming up with excuse after excuse ever since for not wanting to show
>> >> up.
>> >
>> >Nope. That's a fantasy you've invented.
>>
>> Really, so when are you going to show up at Greg's door?
>
> I told you before: when I have sufficient reason to be traveling in that
> part of the country.
>

Translation: never.

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

Thanks David.

You were correct about my puny layoff move on top, and I have been
working on that and will continue. I intend to really flatten it by
bowing my right wrist more on top, getting the butt of the club
pointing out beyond the ball.

Here are more recent swings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJx1KTl-DEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnjHeoTzhi4&feature=related

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

On Feb 3, 7:59 am, "MNMikew" <MNMiik...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alangba...@telus.net> wrote in message
>
> news:alangbaker-0D8D6...@news.shawcable.net...
>
>
>
> > In article <pmdmi7ds8sp6obmvao2ohka1f8n10ph...@4ax.com>,
> > David Laville <dlavi...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:05:01 -0800, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net>

> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> You may want to Google his exchange when he accepted a challenge to
> >> >> show up at someone's door step for a face to face meeting and has been
> >> >> coming up with excuse after excuse ever since for not wanting to show
> >> >> up.
>
> >> >Nope. That's a fantasy you've invented.
>
> >> Really, so when are you going to show up at Greg's door?
>
> > I told you before: when I have sufficient reason to be traveling in that
> > part of the country.
>

> Translation: never.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

A golf match is never going to happen. Actually I have no interest in
meeting Alan Baker.

But it is possible to setup a golf wager that can be witnessed by PGA
pros at both ends. I would bet that I can hit 10 better drives with
10 balls. Or ten 8i to a target. Or even 10 lob wedge shots in a
row. Whatever but the bet must be about consistency, the same skill
that is necessary to hit fairways and greens on a golf course. The
pro could witness the shots on both ends and discuss by telephone with
the other pro to determine which amateur had a better golf swing.

Put up or shut up.

Larry

[Dene]

I'm no expert but the bottom link, portraying the rear view, seems to
display a fundamentally sound swing. Congrats on all your hard work.

-Greg

[Dene]

> Larry- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

That's not much of a bet but I cannot blame you for not wanting to
meet and beat the twit.

-Greg

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

> -Greg- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

A golf match is an interaction among peers, usually friends.

AB is not a friend, he has ruthlessly stalked and attacked me in every
golf discussion forum. He called Golf Labs and tried to convince
them to alter their Launch Monitor results and formal opinion on the
results of our swing training product. He crossed every line when he
actively tried to do me financial harm. He is my enemy.

So I wouldn't play golf with him. I wouldn't have a drink with
him.

He is not my peer.

Larry

[MuahMan]

He's got major issues. Seems like he is universally disliked in every
group in which he participates. Some people just weren't loved as a
child and this is the result.

[gpsman]

<x-post left intact>

On Feb 3, 3:24 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2:18 pm, la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:
> > AB is not a friend, he has ruthlessly stalked and attacked me in every
> > golf discussion forum.
>

> Some people just weren't loved as a
> child and this is the result.

Well... you'd think 75 t h o u s a n d posts to Usenet would help.
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=szhcZxQAAADSOqJAZimVQAU0MFBrCQZbANzlI28YMOqJoqdK4hA-xw

http://tinyurl.com/KooKaNut

Of course those call into question how he found the time to develop
encyclopedic knowledge of every subject under the sun and manages to
maintain expert degrees of proficiency in "driving", golf, skiing...
and I guess Mac advocatin'... hockey, and politics... while
simultaneously remaining gainfully employed.

But, maybe that's just me.
-----

- gpsman

[Dene]

On Feb 3, 2:43 pm, gpsman <gps...@driversmail.com> wrote:
> <x-post left intact>
> On Feb 3, 3:24 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 3, 2:18 pm, la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:
> > > AB is not a friend, he has ruthlessly stalked and attacked me in every
> > > golf discussion forum.
>
> > Some people just weren't loved as a
> > child and this is the result.
>

> Well... you'd think 75  t h o u s a n d  posts to Usenet would help.http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=szhcZxQAAADSOq...

>
> http://tinyurl.com/KooKaNut
>
> Of course those call into question how he found the time to develop
> encyclopedic knowledge of every subject under the sun and manages to
> maintain expert degrees of proficiency in "driving", golf, skiing...
> and I guess Mac advocatin'... hockey, and politics... while
> simultaneously remaining gainfully employed.
>
> But, maybe that's just me.
>  -----
>
> - gpsman

He has minimal knowledge of golf and politics. His whole schtick is
"knowing" enough to start a pissing match. Who knows why he needs
this kind of disdain and attention.

-Greg

[Alan Baker]

This is an out an out lie. I did nothing of the kind. I emailed Golf
Labs and asked them politely if they endorsed your product because
your website implied that they did.

Here is the sum total of that exchange:

*=======================================================
Alan,

Thanks for the email. We did conduct a test for RU Late? However we do
not
as a policy endorse any company's product.

Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Baker [mailto:alang...@telus.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:05 PM
To: in...@golflabs.com
Subject: Did you "verify" the effectiveness of this swing trainer?

Are you endorsing this product?

<http://www.rulate.org/>

Because now it really looks like you are...

Alan Baker

*================================================================

Must I email Mr. Parente again and let him know that you're dragging
his name into your lies?

>
> So I wouldn't play golf with him.   I wouldn't have a drink with
> him.
>
> He is not my peer.

No. I am your better. I don't lie about people.

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

On Feb 3, 2:43 pm, gpsman <gps...@driversmail.com> wrote:
> <x-post left intact>
> On Feb 3, 3:24 pm, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 3, 2:18 pm, la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:
> > > AB is not a friend, he has ruthlessly stalked and attacked me in every
> > > golf discussion forum.
>
> > Some people just weren't loved as a
> > child and this is the result.
>

> Well... you'd think 75  t h o u s a n d  posts to Usenet would help.http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=szhcZxQAAADSOq...

>
> http://tinyurl.com/KooKaNut
>
> Of course those call into question how he found the time to develop
> encyclopedic knowledge of every subject under the sun and manages to
> maintain expert degrees of proficiency in "driving", golf, skiing...
> and I guess Mac advocatin'... hockey, and politics... while
> simultaneously remaining gainfully employed.
>
> But, maybe that's just me.
>  -----
>
> - gpsman

Yeah, and all while living on his mother's generosity. Whew! she
must be wondering what she did wrong to deserve a kid like AB. She
wanted someone who would get an education and a good job and be able
to take care of her in her dotage-- but noooo, she has to take care of
her idiot son who spends all day every day posting on the Internet.

Larry

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

On Feb 3, 6:08 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:.

I emailed Golf Labs

Wow! That's all we need to know. Who among normal people would see a
business web site featuring the results of formal testing and contact
them?

He doesn't even know how weird he is.

And we need to ignore him. Maybe he will go away.

Larry

[Alan Baker]

On Feb 3, 6:42 pm, la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:
> On Feb 3, 6:08 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:.
>
> I emailed Golf Labs

Yup. I notice you snipped the content of that email.

>
> Wow!  That's all we need to know.  Who among normal people would see a
> business web site featuring the results of formal testing and contact
> them?

Why? What's so wrong with checking if the claims made by a site are
accurate?

>
> He doesn't even know how weird he is.
>
> And we need to ignore him.  Maybe he will go away.

"Waiting for Alan to show his stuff, sorta like the strutting and
flexing before a cage match. I showed that I can hit them straight
and long with every club. My swing may not look like a pro's, I need
to rehearse my backswing, get it right and then swing, but I do find
a
way to hit it crisp and propel that sucker toward the target. I
don't
play the treeline and I seldom need to recover from beside or over
the
greens.

Hey AB, put up or shut up. There is no shame in backing down when
you
know you are in WAY over your head. "

I'm putting up, Larry. How about you?

[Alan Baker]

What must it be like to be so willing to lie about people...

[Alan Baker]

Still waiting...

[Donzee]

"gpsman" wrote in message
news:5d8ddaeb-b44e-4fad...@kg1g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...

No not you, just about everyone.

*his greatest talent is to hold out his hand for daddy to fill*
.............Redjack

[Carbon]

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:11:21 -0800, larry wrote:
> On Feb 3, 7:59 am, "MNMikew" <MNMiik...@aol.com> wrote:
>> "Alan Baker" <alangba...@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-0D8D6...@news.shawcable.net...
>>> In article <pmdmi7ds8sp6obmvao2ohka1f8n10ph...@4ax.com>,
>>> David Laville <dlavi...@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:05:01 -0800, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You may want to Google his exchange when he accepted a challenge to
>>>>>> show up at someone's door step for a face to face meeting and has been
>>>>>> coming up with excuse after excuse ever since for not wanting to show
>>>>>> up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. That's a fantasy you've invented.
>>>>
>>>> Really, so when are you going to show up at Greg's door?
>>>
>>> I told you before: when I have sufficient reason to be traveling in that
>>> part of the country.
>>
>> Translation: never.
>

> A golf match is never going to happen.

I am shocked, shocked I tell you...

[Alan Baker]

In article <pan.2012.02...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>,

Yeah... ...Larry actually have to expose his boasting to (even more)
public ridicule.

--
"The iPhone doesn't have...
...well, since Edwin seems to have finally crawled away for good,
I guess I'll let him off the hook

[Frank Ketchum]

<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote in message
news:236cab91-0d7b-425b...@sk8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

- - -

No Larry, the bet was about who could golf better, not about who is better
on the range. Many people are great on the range but can't score for jack
shit. Golf is about getting the ball into the hole. Until you are willing
to play golf to prove how good you are then you are just full of shit in my
book.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 08:42:44 -0500, "Frank Ketchum"
<nos...@thanksanyway.com> wrote:

><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote in message

>A golf match is never going to happen. Actually I have no interest in
>meeting Alan Baker.
>
>But it is possible to setup a golf wager that can be witnessed by PGA
>pros at both ends. I would bet that I can hit 10 better drives with
>10 balls. Or ten 8i to a target. Or even 10 lob wedge shots in a
>row. Whatever but the bet must be about consistency, the same skill
>that is necessary to hit fairways and greens on a golf course. The
>pro could witness the shots on both ends and discuss by telephone with
>the other pro to determine which amateur had a better golf swing.
>
>Put up or shut up.
>
>Larry
>
>- - -
>
>No Larry, the bet was about who could golf better, not about who is better
>on the range. Many people are great on the range but can't score for jack
>shit. Golf is about getting the ball into the hole. Until you are willing
>to play golf to prove how good you are then you are just full of shit in my
>book.
>

Bingo. All the gasconade should be proven on the golf course. But
as LLLLLLarrrry just said, it ain't gonna happen. He's overloaded his
ass with his mouth and he has to back down.

BK

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

> BK- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Back down? Bobby, one privilege of success is that we get to choose
our friends and those we spend time with. In the military there was
a saying that applies, "stay in your own paygrade!" They meant that
EMs should not fraternize with the officers. I don't play golf with
the guys who mow the grass.

AB has done nothing in his life that raises his status as a loser. He
is 50. Soon he will be an old loser. He has wasted his life and
shows no signs of changing the trajectory.

Larry

[Donzee]

wrote in message
news:fb5d0a06-501f-4466...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

The mac group seems to think of him that way too. They call him a
'Luser' and say the only talent he has is to hold out his hand for his
daddy to fill. He seems to be a self proclaimed jack of all trades
and truly a loser at all of them.

[Donzee]

On Feb 8, 6:02 am, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 08:42:44 -0500, "Frank Ketchum"
>
>
>
>
>
> <nos...@thanksanyway.com> wrote:
> ><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote in message
> >A golf match is never going to happen. Actually I have no interest
> >in
> >meeting Alan Baker.

[Alan Baker]

In article
<fb5d0a06-501f-4466...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

You're the one who challenged me, Larry...

...or did you forget already?

>
> AB has done nothing in his life that raises his status as a loser. He
> is 50. Soon he will be an old loser. He has wasted his life and
> shows no signs of changing the trajectory.

Larry: with any kind of luck at all, I'll be pretty much retired in 5
years.

:-)

[Donzee]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-28D4F...@news.shawcable.net...

Waiting on someone to die.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:00:31 -0800 (PST), la...@pivotforpower.com
wrote:

There's so much bullshit in this paragraph I don't know where to
start.

First this was the next expected cop-out from you,completing all of
the excuses for your backing down from your challenge. Since you
realize that your bluff has been called and you can't deliver all that
you bragged about it was the last gasp. Your "privilege of success"
didn't keep you from issuing the challenge.

The bottom line though is that this kind of holier-than-thou BS
shows your true character, which lower than low.
You have no ethics.

>AB has done nothing in his life that raises his status as a loser. He
>is 50. Soon he will be an old loser. He has wasted his life and
>shows no signs of changing the trajectory.
>

You have no idea of the income level, success or social status of
anyone on this group. It's only supposition on your part. Holding
yourself above anyone because of perceived income is repulsive. There
are people here who could probably buy and sell you, and all have more
class. I find you disgusting.

I don't think I left anything out, but if I do think of more I'll let
you know.

[Dene]

On Feb 8, 10:25 am, "Donzee" <Donz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> wrote in messagenews:fb5d0a06-501f-4466...@h3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

> and truly a loser at all of them.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You mean mommy. Daddy died a few years ago.

-Greg

[Dene]

> Larry- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Success is the sweetest revenge. Want to show UA up, then meet his
challenge and beat the socks off of him. Until then, your success is
bluster.

As for the excuse of not playing with guys you don't like....BS. You
belong to a club, as do I, and play in mixers. Occasionally you get
stuck with people you don't like. You still play the game and shake
hands on the 18th hole. VJ and Tiger have done it plenty of times.

-Greg

[MNMikew]

"Dene" <gds...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:66adc343-ceb3-4a44...@q8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...

Occasionally you get stuck with people you don't like. You still play the
game and shake hands on the 18th hole.

--------------------------

And then you impale them with your broken off putter! :-)

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:37:09 -0800 (PST), Dene <gds...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>Success is the sweetest revenge. Want to show UA up, then meet his
>challenge and beat the socks off of him. Until then, your success is
>bluster.

You're right about everything ... except the challenge was made by
him....and his crawfishing is hilarious The only excuse he has left
is illness, which will come if nothing else works.

>
>As for the excuse of not playing with guys you don't like....BS. You
>belong to a club, as do I, and play in mixers. Occasionally you get
>stuck with people you don't like. You still play the game and shake
>hands on the 18th hole. VJ and Tiger have done it plenty of times.
>
>-Greg

Oh no Greg. Remember that "privilege of success" of LLLLLarrry's.
He's one of the privileged few...an aristocrat who wouldn't deign to
play golf with someone not of his echelon. Aristocrat without
portfolio. :-)

Fattest! He's just a prick posing as someone with class.

BK

[-hh]

Golly "Larry", that's quite strong words for a poster who didn't exist
at lunch today.


Frankly, I don't really care about this thread (groups changed
accordingly): it does seem to be some sort of BS pissing contest
between two individuals who should be able to find some way to
reconcile their differences ... but since it appears to be far more
golf-centric than about computers, it belongs exclusively in the realm
of <rec.golf>.

So Golfers, enjoy your rabble-rousing on your own...and preferably
without any of the CSMA sockpuppet trolls interfering and malicously
trying to stir up mischief.



-hh

[Donzee]

"-hh" wrote in message
news:776762e5-53ee-4b02...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

On Feb 8, 1:31 pm, "Donzee" <Donz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 6:02 am, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 08:42:44 -0500, "Frank Ketchum"
>
> > <nos...@thanksanyway.com> wrote:
> > ><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote in message
> > >A golf match is never going to happen. Actually I have no
> > >interest
> > >in meeting Alan Baker.
>
> AB has done nothing in his life that raises his status as a loser.
> He
> is 50. Soon he will be an old loser. He has wasted his life and
> shows no signs of changing the trajectory.
>
> Larry

>Golly "Larry", that's quite strong words for a poster who didn't
>exist
>at lunch today.

Golly "HH" if you go to RSG you can see that "Larry" has existed for
ages. I'm sorry you are confused since the text is a repost. Had you
read the message headers you would have realized it.

>Frankly, I don't really care about this thread (groups changed
>accordingly): it does seem to be some sort of BS pissing contest
>between two individuals who should be able to find some way to
>reconcile their differences ... but since it appears to be far more
>golf-centric than about computers, it belongs exclusively in the
>realm
>of <rec.golf>.

>So Golfers, enjoy your rabble-rousing on your own...and preferably
>without any of the CSMA sockpuppet trolls interfering and malicously
>trying to stir up mischief.

I will post when and where I choose, it's your prerogative to read or
not. If you are concerned about band with, don't be. If your
concerned about trolls, don't feed them.

[Donzee]

"Dene" wrote in message
news:20a6a13e-b83b-48fc...@4g2000pbz.googlegroups.com...

Does he live with mommy? He said today if he was lucky he would be
retired in five years. Is he waiting on mommy to pass? I wouldn't
put it past a worm like him to help her down a flight of stairs.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:16:30 -0500, "Donzee" <Don...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>Golly "HH" if you go to RSG you can see that "Larry" has existed for
>ages. I'm sorry you are confused since the text is a repost. Had you
>read the message headers you would have realized it.

Wrong. He was here a few years ago for a short while until he was
laughed off the Ng. He's only been back now for a couple of months at
a time.

>

>I will post when and where I choose, it's your prerogative to read or
>not. If you are concerned about band with, don't be. If your

>yabout trolls, don't feed them.
>
>
Hilarious. The iirony bell is ringing. The only posts you've made
have been about your obsession with one person who pissed you off on
the Mac NG.

Go away.

BK

[Silvio Bierman]

On 02/03/2012 07:00 PM, la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 4:40 pm, David Laville<dlavi...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> Several weeks ago Larry posted a video link to his swing and we had to
>> hear how much better Alan Baker thought his swing was than Larry's.
>> Well here it is, Alan Baker's swing compared to Larry's. In this
>> comparison you will see how flawed Alan Baker's swing is and how much
>> better Larry does it;
>>
>> http://lavillegolfacademy.com/bakervslarry/index.html
>>
>> Enjoy!
>
> Thanks David.
>
> You were correct about my puny layoff move on top, and I have been
> working on that and will continue. I intend to really flatten it by
> bowing my right wrist more on top, getting the butt of the club
> pointing out beyond the ball.
>
> Here are more recent swings.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJx1KTl-DEY
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnjHeoTzhi4&feature=related
>

Not bad Larry. At least a lot better than what you have shown us before.

In my opinion you should slightly shorten the backswing because you lift
everything above plain at the very top. A bit less arm lift with a tad
more body rotation (if you have any flex left in there) would keep you
on plane and more connected.

But as a whole this looks pretty sound.

[Donzee]

wrote in message news:0ot5j7d5fvnsstrrp...@4ax.com...

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:16:30 -0500, "Donzee" <Don...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>Golly "HH" if you go to RSG you can see that "Larry" has existed for
>ages. I'm sorry you are confused since the text is a repost. Had
>you
>read the message headers you would have realized it.

>Wrong. He was here a few years ago for a short while until he was
>laughed off the Ng. He's only been back now for a couple of months
>at
>a time.

"Ages" is a figure of speech but I guess you couldn't figure it out.

>I will post when and where I choose, it's your prerogative to read or
>not. If you are concerned about band with, don't be. If your
>yabout trolls, don't feed them.
>
>
>Hilarious. The iirony bell is ringing. The only posts you've made
>have been about your obsession with one person who pissed you off on
>the Mac NG.

?

>Go away.

Nope.

[Lloyd]

In article <0ot5j7d5fvnsstrrp...@4ax.com>,

and it is most likely just another nym shift by one of the resident
wintrolls in the Mac advocacy group at that.

[Alan Baker]

In article
<lloydparsons-1419...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Not "most likely", Lloyd. I've already checked.

It's Michael Patelmo, aka "zara", aka "redjack", aka ...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[Lloyd]

In article <alangbaker-EE059...@news.datemas.de>,

He must've got bored in CSMA what with getting his ass handed to him
that much and all!! :)

[Donzee]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-EE059...@news.datemas.de...

Yes it's one or all of them, possibly everyone on the mac group. You
don't have one person there you can call friend.

[-hh]

On Feb 8, 5:31 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:16:30 -0500, "Donzee" <Donz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Golly "HH" if you go to RSG you can see that "Larry" has existed for
> >ages.  I'm sorry you are confused since the text is a repost.  Had you
> >read the message headers you would have realized it.
>
> Wrong.  He was here a few years ago for a short while until he was
> laughed off the Ng.  He's only been back now for a couple of months at
> a time.

And perhaps under different accounts each time. Here's the Google
lowdown on his current one:

http://tinyurl.com/864csqo

> >I will post when and where I choose, it's your prerogative to read or
> >not.  If you are concerned about band with, don't be. If your
> >yabout trolls, don't feed them.
>
> Hilarious.  The iirony bell is ringing.  The only posts you've made
> have been about your obsession with one person who pissed you off on
> the Mac NG.

Pretty much the case on this crosspost to r.s.g.


> Go away.

Unfortunately, not particularly likely: Mr. "Fruit-loop" homebody
has decided that there's nothing better to do with his life than to
sit in the dark and troll all day as a replacement for real social
interaction.


-hh

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

> But as a whole this looks pretty sound.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks. I am working to get it around behind me flatter before I
start it down. I know what to do, just need to change my feeling. I
work on it every range session, I work with one short iron, slow
motion, hitting balls half speed, etc. I really believe the analogy
between learning to play a musical instrument or a new dance step and
swinging a golf club. The only valid practice is slow motion.

Don't bet against me, I will persist.,

Larry

[BAR]

In article <5a9767c9-10b6-4fb9-aa36-753e8c2171d5
@k10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, la...@pivotforpower.com says...

How many years have you been playing at golf?

[Alan Baker]

In article
<5a9767c9-10b6-4fb9...@k10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,

Why do you need to "persist", Larry? Didn't you tell us a couple of
weeks ago that you already expected to shoot par when you played?

:-)

[samketchum]

"-hh" wrote in message
news:9be7cd0f-42a8-4cf5...@m5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

new here? Why don't you Mac users troll your own group. go away.

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

> How many years have you been playing at golf?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I started golfing fairly seriously 10 years ago. I was 60 then and a
good tennis player and a very good handball player before that. I
took a few sporatic lessons, did the TPI thing and quickly discovered
that my primary problem in golf was my bad right knee, many surgeries,
still unstable. As a lefty, the lead leg being unstable is a serious
problem that must be overcome if I were to learn to make the
transition weight shift"post" and swing like good players. So in the
last year or so I have been working with a PT and focusing on legs and
core strength. I am getting there, can now "squat" through a golf
shot and maintain balance on my heels. My pro says there is more--
advanced things that he will show me when he thinks I have the
foundation ability, but I am excited to be able to swing correctly
now, first time ever!

But I play rounds only weekly or less often, preferring to expend only
an hour or so working on the drills to ingrain the correct
backswing. I usually play golf with my wife and another couple, we
don't keep score. But I do work to make good swings and often use
that round as a traveling driving range. I try to do a very rigorous
"preshot routine" as I have learned the hard way that those pesky
trivial details are "everything," to quote Hogan and Snead.

Larry

[Alan Baker]

In article
<54a4b53d-5c2c-4cd7...@h6g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,

la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:

> > > Thanks.  I am working to get it around behind me flatter before I
> > > start it down.  I know what to do, just need to change my feeling.  I
> > > work on it every range session, I work with one short iron, slow
> > > motion, hitting balls half speed, etc.  I really believe the analogy
> > > between learning to play a musical instrument or a new dance step and
> > > swinging a golf club.  The only valid practice is slow motion.
> >
> > > Don't bet against me, I will persist.,
> >
> > How many years have you been playing at golf?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I started golfing fairly seriously 10 years ago.

And started bragging about how good you were almost immediately...

> I was 60 then and a
> good tennis player and a very good handball player before that. I
> took a few sporatic lessons, did the TPI thing and quickly discovered
> that my primary problem in golf was my bad right knee, many surgeries,
> still unstable. As a lefty, the lead leg being unstable is a serious
> problem that must be overcome if I were to learn to make the
> transition weight shift"post" and swing like good players. So in the
> last year or so I have been working with a PT and focusing on legs and
> core strength. I am getting there, can now "squat" through a golf
> shot and maintain balance on my heels. My pro says there is more--
> advanced things that he will show me when he thinks I have the
> foundation ability, but I am excited to be able to swing correctly
> now, first time ever!

None of that stopped your from proclaiming yourself to be as low as a
4.3 handicap, did it?

>
> But I play rounds only weekly or less often, preferring to expend only
> an hour or so working on the drills to ingrain the correct
> backswing. I usually play golf with my wife and another couple, we
> don't keep score. But I do work to make good swings and often use
> that round as a traveling driving range. I try to do a very rigorous
> "preshot routine" as I have learned the hard way that those pesky
> trivial details are "everything," to quote Hogan and Snead.

It's funny how you stopped keeping score when you finally realized that
the scores you were claiming to shoot were laughable when contrasted
with the swing you showed us.

[Alan Baker]

In article
<c552f404-131a-4cf9...@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:

> On Feb 3, 6:08 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:.
>
> I emailed Golf Labs
>
> Wow! That's all we need to know. Who among normal people would see a
> business web site featuring the results of formal testing and contact
> them?

"I did call D. LaVille's "home course" near New Orleans to talk to the
pros there about him after some particularly nasty personal insults
were posted by him. NOBODY there had ever even heard of the famous
golf instructor. I reported that to the entire forum. I am not
ashamed of that. No secret, no big revelation--just public exposure
of a phony.

larry"

<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.golf/msg/b401c973e73cf232>

[-hh]

On Feb 10, 12:04 pm, a brand new sockpuppet makes its first-ever post
under the nym of "samketchum" <samketc...@freestar.net> which wrote
(attributions fixed):
> "-hh"  wrote in message

> > bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Hilarious.  The iirony bell is ringing.  The only posts you've made
> > > have been about your obsession with one person who pissed you off on
> > > the Mac NG.
> >Pretty much the case on this crosspost to r.s.g.
> > > Go away.
> >Unfortunately, not particularly likely:   Mr. "Fruit-loop" homebody
> >has decided that there's nothing better to do with his life than to
> >sit in the dark and troll all day as a replacement for real social
> >interaction.
>
> new here?  Why don't you Mac users troll your own group.  go away.

Golly, your software is broken on <rec.sport.golf> when quoting posts
made from Google Groups, in the same fashion as it is for the idiot
troll "Zara" on CSMA. What an amazing coincidence, eh?

Actually, I used to play a little golf and this cross-posted troll did
remind me that I'm going to have a week in April down in Orlando, so
perhaps I should think about maybe getting back out on the links for a
few rounds.

Fortunately, I'm more than willing to admit that I'm a horrible hack
and generally take the "lemonade" attitude that the more swings I
take, the more that I'm getting for my money :-)

I could invite you over again for an IRL meeting for drinks/etc, just
like I did back in December, but I'm sure that both you and your
boyfriend Brian would never show...but since this is <rec.sport.golf>,
I'll stay a bit closer to being on-topic and offer you an alternative
that's more appropriate to your level of maturity: a round at
'Fanfair' ;-)


-hh

[samketchum]

"-hh" wrote in message
news:56e0a2e8-2a59-4b50...@bs8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

It's seems like you put acid in your lemonade, mook. You're pretty
incoherent. What part of go away didn't you understand?

plonk.

[-hh]

On Feb 11, 9:29 am, sockpuppet "samketchum" <samketc...@freestar.net>
wrote:
> "-hh"  wrote:

...and another of Zara's disposable sockpuppets bites the dust in
defeat.

Now go run back to CSMA where you belong, Zara, and leave the fine
people in <rec.sport.golf> alone. Don't make me threaten to have call
your "wife", as we know that sets you off into arm-swinging "panic
attacks" ;-)


-hh

[-hh]

On Feb 11, 9:29 am, sockpuppet "samketchum" <samketc...@freestar.net>
wrote:
> "-hh"  wrote:

[Ghillie]

"-hh" <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
news:13271d9d-9887-4260...@gr6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

Push the send button a bunch more times sport, maybe he will hear you then.
Like the man said, go away.