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IBIQUITY FINALLY UNDER INVESTIGATION - LMFAO!!!!

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DigitalRadioScams

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Sep 1, 2010, 6:01:07 PM9/1/10
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"HD Radio Not High Definition"

"Despite iBiquity’s claims of improved sound quality and
transmission,
there have been numerous complaints about HD Radio from not only the
radio industry but also consumers... Automakers are aware of the
complaints associated with HD Radio. For example, in 2007, BMW
released a Service Information Bulletin describing the problems
associated with HD Radio, but noted that there was no retrofit kit or
procedure available. The attorneys at Keefe Bartels are continuing
their investigation into HD Radio and whether consumers are being
forced to purchase technology that does not work as claimed. If you
have experienced problems with your factory-installed HD radio
receiver, we are interested in speaking to you."

http://www.keefebartels.com/CM/HotTopicsandAlerts/HotTopicsandAlerts1...

"HD Car Radio Investigation"

"Consumer statutes and laws protect the purchasers of various
products
such as HD car radios. A party may be legally liable for statements,
omissions or misrepresentations of material facts that should have
been know to be false or misleading and promoted the sale of the
product. Such laws protect innocent consumers from unlawful and
deceptive practices. The victims of questionable business practices
by
parties such automobile manufacturers are the consumers who purchase
or lease cars with HD car radios at significantly increased costs
when
these devices fail to function as they are represented to work. As
news develops and the investigation proceeds, Keefe Bartels, LLC will
carefully monitor events and research all relevant laws."

http://www.keefebartels.com/CM/Custom/HD-Car-Radio-Investigation.asp

YOU ARE FUCKED, STRUBLE!!!!!!!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chas. Chan

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Sep 1, 2010, 7:18:55 PM9/1/10
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Plaintiff law firms that specialize in class action suits typically
trawl for groups of people with a common complaint about a particular
service or product. In this case, attorneys from Keefe Bartels seem be
homing in on Web forum posts about poor performance from HD Radios
included in high-end BMW and Jaguar OEM audio packages.

http://radiomagonline.com/digital_radio/law-firm-hd-radio-lemons-0901/

LOL! >Trawlers!< LOL!
Sounds just like the hype used to promote shortwave radios.
I think I'll start an investigation into Eton Corporation and their
sour lemons.
Should be lucrative.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 1, 2010, 7:30:10 PM9/1/10
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The Din of Ibiquity.
cuhulin

DigitalRadioScams

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Sep 1, 2010, 7:48:36 PM9/1/10
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Don't worry, I have it posted, and word will spread from forums such
as radio-info:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=174886.0

Broadcasters that got stiffed by iBiquity could also get involved.
This will be enough to scare any new automakers away - LOL!

DigitalRadioScams

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Sep 1, 2010, 7:50:01 PM9/1/10
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On Sep 1, 7:18 pm, "Chas. Chan" <tianmei...@gmail.com> wrote:

Let's change that subject back.

m II

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Sep 1, 2010, 8:00:45 PM9/1/10
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cuh...@webtv.net wrote:

> The Din of Ibiquity.

See? Sobriety pays off....


mike

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 1, 2010, 8:24:24 PM9/1/10
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Only sober when you are drunk?
I wonder if I can get (free) stem cell breast enhancement for myself.I
want my boobs to be big as Basketballs.
cuhulin

RHF

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Sep 1, 2010, 9:44:47 PM9/1/10
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On Sep 1, 4:48 pm, DigitalRadioScams <digitalradiosc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

IBOC - iBiquity Finally Under Investigation
-LMFAO-
Lawsuit Most Likely Going Nowhere

Most likely this will go no-where, no-how &
no-ways for the following reasons :

1 - The Car Owners bought their Cars from
Car Dealers.

2 - The Car Dealers bought their Cars from
the Auto Manufacturers.

3 - The Auto Manufactures bought their HD-Radios
from the OEM HD-Radio Manufacturers.

4 - It is the individual OEM HD- Radio Manufacturers
that in-fact built the Radios to accomplish the IBOC
Specification that was Developed by iBiquity Corp.

5 - iBiquity Corp. Developed the IBOC Specification
which gained Technical Approval of the FCC.

Conclusion : Most likely it is the OEM HD-Radio
Manufacturers that will bear the brunt of any
Lawsuit as to whether their Equipment actually
'conforms' to the IBOC Specification that was
Developed by iBiquity Corp.

Oops ! - Every Radio that I ever bought never came
with a Guarantee of 100% Radio Reception be it :
Analog AM/MW -or- Analog FM -or- Analog Shortwave.

For That Matter - I Do NOT Recall iBiquity Corp. touting
IBOC HD-Radio as being perfect and providing 100%
Radio Reception at all times; in all locations.

Also - I Do NOT Recall that the FCC in it's Technical
Approval of IBOC HD-Radio making any claims that
IBOC was perfect and would provide 100% Radio
Reception at all times; in all locations. Hey I don't
even recall the FCC making that claim for Analog
AM/MW and FM Radios and the old tried and true
Analog AM & FM Broadcast Systems.

Lastly the Technical Aspects of IBOC imply that
there will NOT be 100% Radio Reception : with a
Preferred {Primary} Digital Mode dropping back
to the old standard Analog {Secondary} Mode
-if- the Digital Signal can not be received due to
your location. Oops a lot of the time when this
happens the Analog Signal can not be receive
either -why- Again to you location not any Defect
in the HD-Radio; the Car; or the Radio Station.
Simply because of your Location. Hey may be
you could Sue your Location -rotfl- ~ RHF

Now remember I have Praised and Bashed IBOC
HD-Radio and iBiquity Corp. because I Live in
"The-Land-of-the-Blinking-Blue-Light [No Digital
Signal Lock] far away from the California Central
Valley's IBOC HD-Radio Stations and it is "My
Location" that is the Problem; because I am
'located' beyond the range of the current 1%
Digital Signal; with an increase to 4%~10%
Digital Signal LeveI : I do expect that IBOC
HD-Radio reception will improve -but- Only Time
and Higher Digital Power will tell.

-wrt- Radio Reception and Real-Estate it usually
comes down to : location, Location. LOCATION !

don't count your lawsuits before they pay out ~ RHF
.
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cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 1, 2010, 10:04:48 PM9/1/10
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Just think of the millions of vehicles that will be recalled to have
Good radios installed in them.
cuhulin

DigitalRadioScams

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Sep 1, 2010, 10:46:03 PM9/1/10
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>  .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"A completely predictable development...unless you still wear rose-
colored glasses with an HD receiver built into the frames. Anyone who
has sold cars for more than five minutes could have told anyone who
would listen that saddling high-end buyers with ANY piece of the car
that isn't 100% results in a high-end buyer who will be looking
elsewhere next time. In this case the problem is compounded because
not only do you have radios whose owners will perceive "this doesn't
work," but you also have the warranty-replacement radios not working
either, because the issues are with the system design and not the
execution. Those who take the time to complain will only be placated
with a non-HD radio, and as soon as those types of warranty work hit
critical mass, kiss HD goodbye in high-end cars."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=174886.msg1514784#msg1514784

iBiquity is fucked either way - LMFAO!!!

DigitalRadioScams

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Sep 1, 2010, 10:49:24 PM9/1/10
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On Sep 1, 9:44 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>  .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

"A completely predictable development...unless you still wear rose-
colored glasses with an HD receiver built into the frames. Anyone who
has sold cars for more than five minutes could have told anyone who
would listen that saddling high-end buyers with ANY piece of the car
that isn't 100% results in a high-end buyer who will be looking
elsewhere next time. In this case the problem is compounded because
not only do you have radios whose owners will perceive "this doesn't
work," but you also have the warranty-replacement radios not working
either, because the issues are with the system design and not the
execution. Those who take the time to complain will only be placated
with a non-HD radio, and as soon as those types of warranty work hit
critical mass, kiss HD goodbye in high-end cars."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=174886.msg1514784#msg1514784

iBiquity is fucked either way! Bend over, Bob -
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's see a criminal investigation, too, for
fraud!!!!

RHF

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Sep 2, 2010, 12:31:18 AM9/2/10
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IBOC - iBiquity Finally Under Investigation
-ROTFL- Lawsuit Most Likely Going Nowhere
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ffb5d6149534c9ae
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On Sep 1, 7:46 pm, DigitalRadioScams <digitalradiosc...@yahoo.com>
> http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=174886.msg1514784#ms...

- iBiquity is fucked either way - LMFAO!!!

-sock-it-to-yourself-puppet- 'DigitalRadioScams',
.
Really surprised that you have any "A" left
since you have LMF*O it so very often ~ RHF
.


IBOC - iBiquity Finally Under Investigation

-ROTFL- Lawsuit Most Likely Going Nowhere
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ffb5d6149534c9ae
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RHF

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Sep 2, 2010, 12:33:59 AM9/2/10
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-sock-it-to-yourself-puppet- 'DigitalRadioScams',
.
Really surprised that you have any "A" left
since you have LMF*O it so very often ~ RHF
.
IBOC - iBiquity Finally Under Investigation
-ROTFL- Lawsuit Most Likely Going Nowhere
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ffb5d6149534c9ae
.
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On Sep 1, 7:49 pm, DigitalRadioScams <digitalradiosc...@yahoo.com>
> http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=174886.msg1514784#ms...

- iBiquity is fucked either way!
- Bend over, Bob - LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Let's see a criminal investigation,
- too, for fraud!!!!

-sock-it-to-yourself-puppet- 'DigitalRadioScams',
.
Really surprised that you have any "A" left
since you have LMF*O it so very often ~ RHF
.

IBOC - iBiquity Finally Under Investigation

-ROTFL- Lawsuit Most Likely Going Nowhere
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ffb5d6149534c9ae
.
.

Richard Evans

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Sep 2, 2010, 7:53:44 AM9/2/10
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DigitalRadioScams wrote:

>
> YOU ARE FUCKED, STRUBLE!!!!!!!
> LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reading briefly through this thread, I'm not sure that he is F***ed
legally, unless he was making claims that HD radio provides good sound
quality, but even then things get difficult when you try to actually
prove that it doesn't.

HOWEVER. If this creates a lot of publicity about the problems of
HD-Radio, ten perhaps HD-Radio sales will become even more F***ed than
they already are, which may be the beginning of the end for HD-Radio.

Richard E.

dave

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Sep 2, 2010, 10:05:15 AM9/2/10
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cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> The Din of Ibiquity.
> cuhulin
>

Check you out

Richard Evans

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Sep 2, 2010, 9:54:24 AM9/2/10
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DigitalRadioScams wrote:

>
> "A completely predictable development...unless you still wear rose-
> colored glasses with an HD receiver built into the frames. Anyone who
> has sold cars for more than five minutes could have told anyone who
> would listen that saddling high-end buyers with ANY piece of the car
> that isn't 100% results in a high-end buyer who will be looking
> elsewhere next time. In this case the problem is compounded because
> not only do you have radios whose owners will perceive "this doesn't
> work," but you also have the warranty-replacement radios not working
> either, because the issues are with the system design and not the
> execution. Those who take the time to complain will only be placated
> with a non-HD radio, and as soon as those types of warranty work hit
> critical mass, kiss HD goodbye in high-end cars."

Wonder if that is part of the reason why we see so few cars over here
with DAB fitted as standard.

On cheaper cars, it would be the extra cost that would put them off
fitting DAB as standard. On high end cars presumably the cost is less of
an issue, but then they are not going to want to fit something that
sounds like sh*t in a high end car.

>
> http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=174886.msg1514784#msg1514784
>
> iBiquity is fucked either way! Bend over, Bob -
> LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's see a criminal investigation, too, for
> fraud!!!!

Well if it brings the general public's attention to the problem, then
HD-Radio sales might end up even worse than they are today.

Perhaps if you are very very lucky, it may end up being a reason to drop
HD-Radio, and develop a proper digital radio system.

Richard E.

DigitalRadioScams

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Sep 2, 2010, 10:55:43 AM9/2/10
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On Sep 2, 9:54 am, Richard Evans <rp.evans.nos...@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:

> DigitalRadioScams wrote:
>
> > "A completely predictable development...unless you still wear rose-
> > colored glasses with an HD receiver built into the frames.  Anyone who
> > has sold cars for more than five minutes could have told anyone who
> > would listen that saddling high-end buyers with ANY piece of the car
> > that isn't 100% results in a high-end buyer who will be looking
> > elsewhere next time.  In this case the problem is compounded because
> > not only do you have radios whose owners will perceive "this doesn't
> > work," but you also have the warranty-replacement radios not working
> > either, because the issues are with the system design and not the
> > execution.  Those who take the time to complain will only be placated
> > with a non-HD radio, and as soon as those types of warranty work hit
> > critical mass, kiss HD goodbye in high-end cars."
>
> Wonder if that is part of the reason why we see so few cars over here
> with DAB fitted as standard.
>
> On cheaper cars, it would be the extra cost that would put them off
> fitting DAB as standard. On high end cars presumably the cost is less of
> an issue, but then they are not going to want to fit something that
> sounds like sh*t in a high end car.
>
>
>
> >http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=174886.msg1514784#ms...

>
> > iBiquity is fucked either way! Bend over, Bob -
> > LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's see a criminal investigation, too, for
> > fraud!!!!
>
> Well if it brings the general public's attention to the problem, then
> HD-Radio sales might end up even worse than they are today.
>
> Perhaps if you are very very lucky, it may end up being a reason to drop
> HD-Radio, and develop a proper digital radio system.
>
> Richard E.

The point of the law firm is that aotomakers such as BMW know about
the HD Radio problems (via a service bulletin issued in 2007), yet
continue to sell this defective product as standard, driving up the
cost of their automobiles. I also know a particular broadcaster, and
others, that are getting involved over loss of ad revenue from IBLOCK
interference, and stations that got duped by iBiquity's false claims.
I hope this excalates into a full-blown investigation, and I can see
other firms getting involved. It's not only involving consumers, but
also broadcasters. This negative oublicity will inform and scare aware
consumers, and any new automakers who were thinking about HD Radio -
no way wil they position themselves into a potential lawsuit. This
firm knows what they are doing, and it will be the begenning of the
end for IBLOCK.

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