MADISON: Provisions of Union Fascist Collective Bargaining
Chas. Chan
how collective bargaining impacts government and how reforming
collective bargaining can improve government. The following are some
of the items contained in collective bargaining provisions:
1.Employer must provide bulletin boards to post information about
union social and recreational activities. The size and location of
the board is subject to collective bargaining.
2. When a local union meets the following conditions are subject to
bargaining:
1. lighting,
2. vision care and examinations,
3. noise,
4. chairs,
5. desks,
6. footrests,
7. adjustable terminals and keyboards,
8. work environment design (wall cover, carpet, windows),
9. room temperature,
3.Starting of vehicles during cold weather is subject to collective
bargaining.
4.Paid time off to donate blood.
Earlier today, Governor Walker’s office released some specific
examples and new details to show how collective bargaining fiscally
impacts government and how reforming collective bargaining can improve
government.
A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work
Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus
Program, teaches can retire and receive a year’s worth of salary for
working only 30 days over a three year period. This is paid in
addition to their already guaranteed pension and health care payouts.
At the average annual salary for a Green Bay teacher of $51,355, this
amounts to a daily rate of pay of $1,711.83, or an hourly rate of
$213.98. Since most retiring teachers receive higher than average
salary, these amounts are, in practice, much higher.
Source: WLUK-TV, 3/3/11
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/140-green-bay-teachers-looking-to-retire
Teachers Receiving Two Pensions
Due to a 1982 provision of their collective bargaining agreement,
Milwaukee Public School teachers actually receive two pensions upon
retirement instead of one. The contribution to the second pension is
equal to 4.2% of a teacher’s salary, with the school district making
100% of the contribution, just like they do for the first pension.
This extra benefit costs taxpayers more than $16 million per year.
Source: February 17, 2010 Press Release, Process of developing FY11
budget begins Milwaukee Public Schools
Almost $10,000 Per Year for Doing Nothing
While the Green Bay Emeritus Program actually requires teachers to at
least show up for work, the Madison Emeritus Program doesn’t even
require that. In addition to their pension payouts, retired Madison
public school teachers receive annual payments of at least $9,884.18
per year for enrolling in the Emeritus Program, which requires ZERO
days of work.
When this program began, 20 days of work per year were required.
Through collective bargaining, the union successfully negotiated this
down to zero days.
Source: Madison Teachers Inc. Website
http://www.madisonteachers.org/Forms-Intranet/retirement%20info%20teachers%2009-10.pdf
Yesterday the Governor’s office released these examples of the fiscal
impact of collective bargaining
No Volunteer Crossing Guards Allowed
A Wausau public employee union filed a grievance to prohibit a local
volunteer from serving as a school crossing guard. The 86-year-old
lives just two blocks away and serves everyday free of charge.
Principal Steve Miller says, "He said, you know, this gives me a
reason to get up in the morning to come and help these kids in the
neighborhood."
But for a local union that represents crossing guards, it isn't that
simple. Representatives didn't want to go on camera but say if a
crossing guard is needed, then one should be officially hired by the
city.
Source: WAOW-TV, 1/27/10
http://www.waow.com/Global/story.asp?S=11891208
$6,000 Extra for Carrying a Pager
Some state employees, due to the nature of their positions, are
required to carry pagers during off-duty hours in order to respond to
emergency situations. Due to the collective bargaining agreements,
these employees are compensated an extra five hours of pay each week,
whether they are paged or not.
For an employee earning an average salary of $50,000 per year, this
requirement can cost more than $6,000 in additional compensation.
Source: 2008-09 Agreement between the State of Wisconsin and AFSCME
Council 24
Arbitrator Reinstates Porn-Watching Teacher
A Cedarburg school teacher was reinstated by an arbitrator after being
fired for viewing pornography on a school computer. The school
district ultimately succeeded in terminating the teacher only after
taking the case to the Wisconsin Supreme Court at great cost to the
taxpayers.
Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 8/23/08
http://www.jsonline.com/news/32598479.html
‘Outstanding First Year Teacher’ Laid Off
Milwaukee Public Schools teacher Megan Sampson was laid off less than
one week after being named Outstanding First Year Teacher by the
Wisconsin Council of English Teachers. She lost her job because the
collective bargaining agreement requires layoffs to be made based on
seniority rather than merit.
Informed that her union had rejected a lower-cost health care plan,
that still would have required zero contribution from teachers,
Sampson said, “Given the opportunity, of course I would switch to a
different plan to save my job, or the jobs of 10 other teachers.
Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 6/14/10
http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/96349689.html
Union Opposes Cost-Saving Lawn Mowing Program
As a cost cutting measure, Racine County began using county inmates to
cut the grass in medians and right-of-ways at no cost to the
taxpayers. A county employee union filed a grievance indicating it
was the right of government workers to cut the grass, even though it
would cost the taxpayers dramatically more.
Source: Racine Journal Times, 5/12/10
http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/article_6a940044-5e23-11df-91a0-001cc4c03286.html
The $150,000 Bus Driver [more than the Mayor]
In 2009, the City of Madison’s highest paid employee was a bus driver
who earned $159,258, including $109,892 in overtime, guaranteed by a
collective bargaining agreement. In total, seven City of Madison bus
drivers made more than $100,000 per year in 2009.
"That's the (drivers') contract," said Transit and Parking Commission
Chairman Gary Poulson.
Source: Wisconsin State Journal, 2/7/10
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt_and_politics/article_24af32d4-13f4-11df-86b2-001cc4c002e0.html
$150,000 Correctional Officers
Correctional Officer collective bargaining agreements allow officers a
practice known as “sick leave stacking.” Officers can call in sick
for a shift, receiving 8 hours of sick pay, and then are allowed to
work the very next shift, earning time-and-a-half for overtime. This
results in the officer receiving 2.5 times his or her rate of pay,
while still only working 8 hours.
In part because of these practices, 13 correctional officers made more
than $100,000 in 2009, despite earning base wages of less than $60,000
per year. The officers received an average of $66,000 in overtime pay
for an average annual salary of more than $123,000 with the highest
paid receiving $151,181.
Source: Department of Corrections
Previously the Governor’s office released these examples of the fiscal
impact of collective bargaining:
Paid-Time off for Union Activities
In Milwaukee County alone, because the union collectively bargained
for paid time off, fourteen employees receive salary and benefits for
doing union business. Of the fourteen, three are on full-time release
for union business. Milwaukee County spent over $170,000 in salary
alone for these employees to only participate in union activities such
as collective bargaining.
Surrender of Management Rights
Because of collecting bargaining, unions have included provisions in
employee contracts that have a direct fiscal impact such as not
allowing management to schedule workers based on operational needs and
requiring notice and approval by the union prior to scheduling
changes. As County Executive Walker attempted to reduce work hours
based on budget pressures and workload requirements by instituting a
35 hour work week to avoid layoffs, which the union opposed.
Additionally, government cannot explore privatization of functions
that could save taxpayers money.
WEA Trust
Currently many school districts participate in WEA trust because WEAC
collectively bargains to get as many school districts across the state
to participate in this union run health insurance plan as possible.
Union leadership benefits from members participating in this plan. If
school districts enrolled in the state employee health plan, it would
save school districts up to $68 million per year. Beyond that if
school districts had the flexibility to look for health insurance
coverage outside of WEA trust or the state plan, additional savings
would likely be realized.
Viagra for Teachers
The Milwaukee Teachers Education Association (MTEA) tried to use a
policy established by collective bargaining to obtain health insurance
coverage that specifically paid for Viagra. Cost to taxpayers is
$786,000 a year.
Unrealistic Overtime Provisions
On a state level, the Department of Corrections allows correctional
workers who call in sick to collect overtime if they work a shift on
the exact same day. The specific provision that allows this to happen
was collectively bargained for in their contract. Cost to taxpayers
$4.8 million.
Christopher Helms
So now Wisconsin teachers are making more than $213.98 an hour? You
people never stop making shit up, do you? You're on Usenet now, Eddie
or Chas or whatever you're calling yourself and you're not talking to
a bunch of Hannity bobbleheads who wouldn't know bullshit if they had
to shovel it off their cars.
Chas. Chan
>
> > A Year’s Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work
>
> > Under the Green Bay School District’s collectively bargained Emeritus
> > Program, teaches can retire and receive a year’s worth of salary for
> > working only 30 days over a three year period. This is paid in
> > addition to their already guaranteed pension and health care payouts.
>
> > At the average annual salary for a Green Bay teacher of $51,355, this
> > amounts to a daily rate of pay of $1,711.83, or an hourly rate of
> > $213.98. Since most retiring teachers receive higher than average
> > salary, these amounts are, in practice, much higher.
>
> So now Wisconsin teachers are making more than $213.98 an hour? You
> people never stop making shit up, do you? You're on Usenet now, Eddie
> or Chas or whatever you're calling yourself and you're not talking to
> a bunch of Hannity bobbleheads who wouldn't know bullshit if they had
> to shovel it off their cars.
What's the matter moron? Your Public School Re-Education camp leader
didn't teach you simple arithmetic?
Stupid is as Stupid does.
bpnjensen
>
> - Show quoted text -
IMO, teachers are worth it. I see firsthand what they go through, and
they're more than Chas x 100.
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
That's the problem. Union Fascists dictators decide who, what, when
and where our kids are educated - WITH A GUN TO YOUR HEAD YOU MUST PAY
THEIR BLOATED SALARY IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOTE.
Go ahead and send them a donation. JUST KEEP YOUR GREAZZZY FINGERS
OUT OF MY POCKET YOU BLOODSUCKING JACKASS!
WR
>
> Teachers Receiving Two Pensions
>
> Due to a 1982 provision of their collective bargaining agreement,
> Milwaukee Public School teachers actually receive two pensions upon
> retirement instead of one. The contribution to the second pension is
> equal to 4.2% of a teacher’s salary, with the school district making
> 100% of the contribution, just like they do for the first pension.
> This extra benefit costs taxpayers more than $16 million per year.
>
> Source: February 17, 2010 Press Release, Process of developing FY11
> budget begins Milwaukee Public Schools
>
> Almost $10,000 Per Year for Doing Nothing
>
> While the Green Bay Emeritus Program actually requires teachers to at
> least show up for work, the Madison Emeritus Program doesn’t even
> require that. In addition to their pension payouts, retired Madison
> public school teachers receive annual payments of at least $9,884.18
> per year for enrolling in the Emeritus Program, which requires ZERO
> days of work.
>
> When this program began, 20 days of work per year were required.
> Through collective bargaining, the union successfully negotiated this
> down to zero days.
>
>
> Yesterday the Governor’s office released these examples of the fiscal
> impact of collective bargaining
>
> No Volunteer Crossing Guards Allowed
>
> A Wausau public employee union filed a grievance to prohibit a local
> volunteer from serving as a school crossing guard. The 86-year-old
> lives just two blocks away and serves everyday free of charge.
>
> Principal Steve Miller says, "He said, you know, this gives me a
> reason to get up in the morning to come and help these kids in the
> neighborhood."
>
> But for a local union that represents crossing guards, it isn't that
> simple. Representatives didn't want to go on camera but say if a
> crossing guard is needed, then one should be officially hired by the
> city.
>
>
> $6,000 Extra for Carrying a Pager
>
> Some state employees, due to the nature of their positions, are
> required to carry pagers during off-duty hours in order to respond to
> emergency situations. Due to the collective bargaining agreements,
> these employees are compensated an extra five hours of pay each week,
> whether they are paged or not.
>
> For an employee earning an average salary of $50,000 per year, this
> requirement can cost more than $6,000 in additional compensation.
>
> Source: 2008-09 Agreement between the State of Wisconsin and AFSCME
> Council 24
>
> Arbitrator Reinstates Porn-Watching Teacher
>
> A Cedarburg school teacher was reinstated by an arbitrator after being
> fired for viewing pornography on a school computer. The school
> district ultimately succeeded in terminating the teacher only after
> taking the case to the Wisconsin Supreme Court at great cost to the
> taxpayers.
>
>
> ‘Outstanding First Year Teacher’ Laid Off
>
> Milwaukee Public Schools teacher Megan Sampson was laid off less than
> one week after being named Outstanding First Year Teacher by the
> Wisconsin Council of English Teachers. She lost her job because the
> collective bargaining agreement requires layoffs to be made based on
> seniority rather than merit.
>
> Informed that her union had rejected a lower-cost health care plan,
> that still would have required zero contribution from teachers,
> Sampson said, “Given the opportunity, of course I would switch to a
> different plan to save my job, or the jobs of 10 other teachers.
>
>
> Union Opposes Cost-Saving Lawn Mowing Program
>
> As a cost cutting measure, Racine County began using county inmates to
> cut the grass in medians and right-of-ways at no cost to the
> taxpayers. A county employee union filed a grievance indicating it
> was the right of government workers to cut the grass, even though it
> would cost the taxpayers dramatically more.
>
>
> The $150,000 Bus Driver [more than the Mayor]
>
> In 2009, the City of Madison’s highest paid employee was a bus driver
> who earned $159,258, including $109,892 in overtime, guaranteed by a
> collective bargaining agreement. In total, seven City of Madison bus
> drivers made more than $100,000 per year in 2009.
>
> "That's the (drivers') contract," said Transit and Parking Commission
> Chairman Gary Poulson.
>
>
> Unrealistic Overtime Provisions
>
> On a state level, the Department of Corrections allows correctional
> workers who call in sick to collect overtime if they work a shift on
> the exact same day. The specific provision that allows this to happen
> was collectively bargained for in their contract. Cost to taxpayers
> $4.8 million.
Everything a union gets in bargaining comes from management.
Everything. In the case of state unions, in most cases it's utterly
illegal for them to strike so state management doesn't have the same
prod as industrial management. The stripping of collective bargaining
rights for benefits was done to break the union, not to fix any
financial problems. As it was, the Governor was in the driver's seat.
The union had already conceded everything to him. His actions were
anti-union and anti-democratic. He's trying to break the union to ruin
it as a political force, and he's doing it in his first year in office
so public outrage will fade by the time he comes up for reelection.
The working public won't forget the insult. They'll try to recall the
prick, and if that doesn't work, they'll throw him when his term is
done. In any event, he's toast.
bpnjensen
>
> - Show quoted text -
Lately, I'm thinking you guys don't want their kids educated at all.
The USA is proving this to be true now every year. Stupid and
ignorant is the new chic.
m II
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- Lately, I'm thinking you guys don't want their kids educated at all.
- The USA is proving this to be true now every year. Stupid and
- ignorant is the new chic.
-
Stupid, ignorant and conned into carrying guns with a purpose. Population
control that the US people will never figure out.
mike
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dave
>
> $6,000 Extra for Carrying a Pager
>
> Some state employees, due to the nature of their positions, are
> required to carry pagers during off-duty hours in order to respond to
> emergency situations. Due to the collective bargaining agreements,
> these employees are compensated an extra five hours of pay each week,
> whether they are paged or not.
>
> For an employee earning an average salary of $50,000 per year, this
> requirement can cost more than $6,000 in additional compensation.
>
If you're on call you can't really make plans to do much besides chill
at home. This seems fair, as do [sic] most of the rest of this. Pensions
are deferred compensation. Just because a state "borrows" the pension
fund dry, doesn't gives anybody a right to nullify the deal.
Nickname unavailable
fascists hate unions, its a matter of historical fact. reagan knew
that, that is why he was not only pro union, pro public union, but
also pro teacher.
RONALD REAGAN LOVED TEACHERS AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING:)The Teacher in
Space Project (TISP) was a NASA program announced by Ronald Reagan in
1984 designed to inspire students, honor teachers
click on the link to hear REAGAN proclaim that collective bargaining
is freedom for workers.
Ronald Reagan Loved Unions and Collective Bargaining
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MAR 17 2011, 3:21 PM ET
By
JOSHUA GREEN
61
You often hear it said that if Ronald Reagan were around today, he
would be deemed insufficiently true to the conservative cause to win
his own party's presidential nomination. Well, according to this
video, if Reagan were around today he could forget about being elected
governor of Wisconsin, too--just listen to him cry out "Where free
unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teacher_in_Space_Project
Teacher in Space Project
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Logo of the Teacher in Space Project
The Teacher in Space Project (TISP) was a NASA program announced by
Ronald Reagan in 1984 designed to inspire students, honor teachers,
and spur interest in mathematics, science, and space exploration.
The program was cancelled following the death of its first
participant, Christa McAuliffe, in the Space Shuttle Challenger
disaster (STS-51-L) in 1986.
Revivals of the program in the private sector have been attempted by
private aerospace initiatives.
Contents [hide]
• 1 History
• 2 Rebirth
• 3 See also
• 4 References
• 5 External links
[edit]
History
Barbara Morgan and Christa McAuliffe, backup and primary TISP
participants for Mission STS-51-L
TISP was announced by President Ronald Reagan on August 27, 1984. More
than 11,000 teachers applied for the program;[1] in 1985, NASA
selected Christa McAuliffe to be the first teacher in space with
Barbara Morgan as her backup. McAuliffe died in the Space Shuttle
Challenger disaster (STS-51-L) in 1986.
After the Challenger accident, Reagan spoke on national television and
assured the nation that the Teacher in Space program would continue.
"We'll continue our quest in space", he said. "There will be more
shuttle flights and more shuttle crews and, yes, more volunteers, more
civilians, more teachers in space. Nothing ends here; our hopes and
our journeys continue."[2] However, NASA eliminated the Teacher in
Space project and other efforts to send private citizens to space. In
the 1990s, the Teacher in Space project was replaced by the Educator
Astronaut Project. Instead of training teachers for five months to be
a spaceflight participant who would return to the classroom, the
Educator Astronaut program required selectees to give up their
teaching careers, move to Houston, and become full-time NASA
employees.
Morgan was selected as a NASA Mission Specialist in January 1998, 12
years after McAuliffe's death. She was assigned to the crew of
STS-118, aboard the orbiter Endeavour (the orbiter that replaced
Challenger six years after the 1986 accident) which launched on August
8, 2007. Although it was once reported that Morgan would teach some of
the same lessons that McAuliffe planned to teach more than 20 years
before, Associated Press reports that "Morgan has no plans to give a
lesson from space".[3] Shuttle commander Scott Kelly told a
journalist, "I don’t have a teacher as a crewmember. I have a
crewmember who used to be a teacher".[4] However, three weeks after
the mission ended, she lectured a number of space education classes at
Walt Disney World, lecturing lessons similar to what McAuliffe would
have taught.[5]
D. Peter Maus
> Stupid and
> ignorant is the new chic.
Pretty much true since the 50's.
Not Sure
Yes, the union thugs are incredibly uneducated. Thanks for admitting
it :)
Not Sure
Sure it does. Union slobs are vastly overpaid, and their obscene
pensions are neither deserved nor any longer affordable. They should
be the last thing tax money goes for :)
dave
You are free to make a better deal going forward, but those pensions are
an obligation, same as bonds.
Why do you call workers "slobs"? Limbaugh is an AFL-CIO member.
bpnjensen
You are a good example of what I said.
bpnjensen
...and vastly worse in the last 35 years or so.
bpnjensen
Dave, he clearly has no frigging idea of which he speaks. His opinion
is based on the usual batch of intellectual swill eaten by his type.
RHF
- and they're more than Chas x 100.
? ? ? How Do You Value {Calculate} The Worth of . . .
One Human Being Over an Other ! ! !
one wonders... ~ RHF
.
.
RHF
> On Mar 18, 3:34 pm, "D. Peter Maus" <dpeterm...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > On 3/18/11 16:25 , bpnjensen wrote:
>
- - Pretty much true since the 50's.
- ...and vastly worse in the last 35 years or so.
All of which applies to you too unless you 'claim'
to be ABOVE IT ALL -aka--an- ELITIST ! -too-
Oh So Much More Liberal {Progressive/Collective} Whining !
-the-masses-won't-listen-to-us-
-we-are-your-natural-leaders-bow-down-before-us-
-you-are-too-stupid-to-think-:-we-will-think-for-you-
HERE'S TO GOVERNMENT & SOCIETY :
-representative-all-peoples-democracy-
"OF" 'ALL' {Every Person} THE PEOPLE
-liberal/democrat-elitists-do-not-get-to-decide-
"FOR" 'ALL' {Every Person} THE PEOPLE
-liberal/democrat-elitists-do-not-get-to-decide-
"BY" 'ALL' {Every Person} THE PEOPLE
-liberal/democrat-elitists-do-not-get-to-decide-
yeah - that's the way 'i' see it ~ RHF
.
.
RHF
'Special-Dave' : excuses,,, Excuses... EXCUSES ! ! !
Wisconsin Over Spent Into Bankruptcy and Over Taxed
Into Poverty By Excessive Public Employee Union Pay
and Special Benefits
no money means no money,,, {real broke}
-taxed-into-bankruptcy-&-taxed-into-bankruptcy-
No Money Means No Money... {Totally Broke}
-again-taxed-into-bankruptcy-&-again-taxed-into-bankruptcy-
NO MONEY MEANS NO MONEY ! ! ! {FLAT DEAD BROKE}
-over-taxed-into-bankruptcy-over-taxed-into-bankruptcy-
.
MADISON: Provisions of Union Fascist Collective Bargaining
-by- Chas. Chan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e5ffcdeae9d73db4
* Wisconsin Over Spent Into Bankruptcy
* Wisconsin Over Taxed Into Poverty
* Wisconsin Excessive Public Employee Union Pay
* Wisconsin and Special Benefits for Public Employee
-beautiful-&-pure-propaganda-
.
MADISON: Provisions of Union Fascist Collective Bargaining
-by- ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e58f62721208b97d
* Wisconsin Over Spent Into Bankruptcy
* Wisconsin Over Taxed Into Poverty
* Wisconsin Excessive Public Employee Union Pay
* Wisconsin and Special Benefits for Public Employee
-pure-&-beautiful-propaganda-
.
.
RHF
- - - Stupid and ignorant is the new chic.
- - Yes, the union thugs are incredibly uneducated.
- - Thanks for admitting it :)
>-You are a good example of what I said.
And You Are A Very Good Example of an Elitist
-over-lord-of-the-masses- ~ RHF
.
Oh So Much More Liberal {Progressive/Collective} Whining !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9794d1137c3aad02
.
Wisconsin Over Spent Into Bankruptcy and Over Taxed
Into Poverty By Excessive Public Employee Union Pay
and Special Benefits
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d9e0c632dc8916a9
.
.
D. Peter Maus
Noticed that, did you?
cuh...@webtv.net
I done missed 98 percent of Tasting Ireland on the Cook channel.
Won't happen again, this I Know!
cuhulin
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Leader Of Egyptian Unions To Wisconsin Protesters: "We Stand With You
As You Stood With Us"REAGAN SAID "Where free unions and collective
bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost!
Leader Of Egyptian Unions To Wisconsin Protesters: "We Stand With You
As You Stood With Us"
Monday 21 February 2011
by: Zaid Jilani | Think Progress | Report
(Photo: Wat Stearns)
One of the most underreported stories about the pro-democracy movement
in Egypt was the role of labor unions in the demonstrations, many of
which were protesting against neoliberal right-wing economic policies
just as much as they were protesting against the Mubarak dictatorship.
During the uprising in that country, AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka
praised the role of organized labor, saying, “The people’s movement
for democracy in Egypt and the role unions are playing for freedom and
worker rights inspires us and will not be forgotten.”
Now, as tens of thousands of union members and other Wisconsin
residents are taking to the streets to protest against Gov. Scott
Walker’s (R) attempt to abolish collective bargaining rights for most
public workers, a leader of Egypt’s largest umbrella group of
independent labor unions is praising the Wisconsin movement. In a
videotaped statement, Kamal Abbas, the General Coordinator of the
Centre for Trade Unions and Workers Services, tells the Wisconsin
protesters, “We stand with you as you stood with us.” He says “no one
believed” that the revolution against the Mubarak regime would
succeed, yet they were able to bring the dictator down within 18 days.
He encourages demonstrators to stay strong, saying, “Don’t give up on
your rights. Victory always belongs to the people who stand firm and
demand their just rights”:
I am speaking to you from a place very close to Tahrir Square in
Cairo, “Liberation Square”, which was the heart of the Revolution in
Egypt. This is the place were many of our youth paid with their lives
and blood in the struggle for our just rights. From this place, I want
you to know that we stand with you as you stood with us. [...]
No one believed that our revolution could succeed against the
strongest dictatorship in the region. But in 18 days the revolution
achieved the victory of the people. When the working class of Egypt
joined the revolution on 9 and 10 February, the dictatorship was
doomed and the victory of the people became inevitable. We want you to
know that we stand on your side. Stand firm and don’t waiver. Don’t
give up on your rights. Victory always belongs to the people who stand
firm and demand their just rights.
Watch it:
Last week, Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) said there are “similarities”
between the movements in Egypt and Wisconsin, in that “that people are
wanting to be heard, and they are taking direct action.” Additionally,
Ian’s on State Street, a pizza place near the Wisconsin capitol
building, has been taking orders from Egypt for Wisconsin activists.
While the actions that Walker and Mubarak are taking are far from
directly analogous, many demonstrators have taken to drawing satirical
comparisons. Following Walker’s threat to call in the National Guard
to deal with a labor strike, activists launched the site Mini Mubarak,
humorously comparing the governor’s threat to the actions of the now-
resigned Egyptian autocrat. (H/T: Michael Moore)
cuh...@webtv.net
Virginia.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com
Wherrrrrrrrrrrres the Birrrrrrrrrrrrth Cerrrrrrrtificaaaaaaaate?
Doggy and I are watchin (doggy is sleepin) The Golden Girls on the
Hallmark channel.I Always likes to watch The Golden Girls.
Maude was a Truck Driving Marine in World War Two.
cuhulin, Billboards R US
cuh...@webtv.net
Y'all remember the old Burma Shave Signs? How about something like that,
but saying, Where's The Birth Certificate? Of course, keep the
Billboards going too.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.standeyo.com
Does not supprise me.If you read back, you will see/read I did mention
something related to that, a few days ago.Will there be more closings? I
don't know, but if so, I will not be supprised at all.
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
Logarithmically so ...
dave
You watch the TV equivalent of junk food. You don't care what you put in
your brain. This results in your insane birtherism and blind allegiance
to Haley Barbour while he turns your state into Bangladesh.
dave
Whirled Nut Daily is a site for raving paranoid loonies. That shit is a
waste of time.
cuh...@webtv.net
Only in backwater hick barefoot Missy Sippy! The First State to start
selling Shoes two to a box, in Vicksburg.
cuhulin,Blind Allegiance to Haley Barbour R Doggy and I
N∅ ∅baMa∅
>
> > Teachers Receiving Two Pensions
>
> > Due to a 1982 provision of their collective bargaining agreement,
> > Milwaukee Public School teachers actually receive two pensions upon
> > retirement instead of one. The contribution to the second pension is
> > equal to 4.2% of a teacher’s salary, with the school district making
> > 100% of the contribution, just like they do for the first pension.
> > This extra benefit costs taxpayers more than $16 million per year.
>
> > Source: February 17, 2010 Press Release, Process of developing FY11
> > budget begins Milwaukee Public Schools
>
> > Almost $10,000 Per Year for Doing Nothing
>
> > While the Green Bay Emeritus Program actually requires teachers to at
> > least show up for work, the Madison Emeritus Program doesn’t even
> > require that. In addition to their pension payouts, retired Madison
> > public school teachers receive annual payments of at least $9,884.18
> > per year for enrolling in the Emeritus Program, which requires ZERO
> > days of work.
>
> > When this program began, 20 days of work per year were required.
> > Through collective bargaining, the union successfully negotiated this
> > down to zero days.
>
> > Source: Madison Teachers Inc. Websitehttp://www.madisonteachers.org/Forms-Intranet/retirement%20info%20tea...
>
> > Yesterday the Governor’s office released these examples of the fiscal
> > impact of collective bargaining
>
> > No Volunteer Crossing Guards Allowed
>
> > A Wausau public employee union filed a grievance to prohibit a local
> > volunteer from serving as a school crossing guard. The 86-year-old
> > lives just two blocks away and serves everyday free of charge.
>
> > Principal Steve Miller says, "He said, you know, this gives me a
> > reason to get up in the morning to come and help these kids in the
> > neighborhood."
>
> > But for a local union that represents crossing guards, it isn't that
> > simple. Representatives didn't want to go on camera but say if a
> > crossing guard is needed, then one should be officially hired by the
> > city.
>
> > Source: WAOW-TV, 1/27/10http://www.waow.com/Global/story.asp?S=11891208
>
> > $6,000 Extra for Carrying a Pager
>
> > Some state employees, due to the nature of their positions, are
> > required to carry pagers during off-duty hours in order to respond to
> > emergency situations. Due to the collective bargaining agreements,
> > these employees are compensated an extra five hours of pay each week,
> > whether they are paged or not.
>
> > For an employee earning an average salary of $50,000 per year, this
> > requirement can cost more than $6,000 in additional compensation.
>
> > Council 24
>
> > Arbitrator Reinstates Porn-Watching Teacher
>
> > A Cedarburg school teacher was reinstated by an arbitrator after being
> > fired for viewing pornography on a school computer. The school
> > district ultimately succeeded in terminating the teacher only after
> > taking the case to the Wisconsin Supreme Court at great cost to the
> > taxpayers.
>
> > Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 8/23/08http://www.jsonline.com/news/32598479.html
>
> > ‘Outstanding First Year Teacher’ Laid Off
>
> > Milwaukee Public Schools teacher Megan Sampson was laid off less than
> > one week after being named Outstanding First Year Teacher by the
> > Wisconsin Council of English Teachers. She lost her job because the
> > collective bargaining agreement requires layoffs to be made based on
> > seniority rather than merit.
>
> > Informed that her union had rejected a lower-cost health care plan,
> > that still would have required zero contribution from teachers,
> > Sampson said, “Given the opportunity, of course I would switch to a
> > different plan to save my job, or the jobs of 10 other teachers.
>
> > Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 6/14/10http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/96349689.html
>
> > Union Opposes Cost-Saving Lawn Mowing Program
>
> > As a cost cutting measure, Racine County began using county inmates to
> > cut the grass in medians and right-of-ways at no cost to the
> > taxpayers. A county employee union filed a grievance indicating it
> > was the right of government workers to cut the grass, even though it
> > would cost the taxpayers dramatically more.
>
> > Source: Racine Journal Times, 5/12/10http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/article_6a940044-5e23-11df-91a...
>
> > The $150,000 Bus Driver [more than the Mayor]
>
> > In 2009, the City of Madison’s highest paid employee was a bus driver
> > who earned $159,258, including $109,892 in overtime, guaranteed by a
> > collective bargaining agreement. In total, seven City of Madison bus
> > drivers made more than $100,000 per year in 2009.
>
> > "That's the (drivers') contract," said Transit and Parking Commission
> > Chairman Gary Poulson.
>
> > Source: Wisconsin State Journal, 2/7/10http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt_and_politics/article_24af...
>
> > $150,000 Correctional Officers
>
> > Correctional Officer collective bargaining agreements allow officers a
> > practice known as “sick leave stacking.” Officers can call in sick
> > for a shift, receiving 8 hours of sick pay, and then are allowed to
> > work the very next shift, earning time-and-a-half for overtime. This
> > results in the officer receiving 2.5 times his or her rate of pay,
> > while still only working 8 hours.
>
> > In part because of these practices, 13 correctional officers made more
> > than $100,000 in 2009, despite earning base wages of less than $60,000
> > per year. The officers received an average of $66,000 in overtime pay
> > for an average annual salary of more than $123,000 with the highest
> > paid receiving $151,181.
>
> > Source: Department of Corrections
>
> > Previously the Governor’s office released these examples of the fiscal
> > impact of collective bargaining:
>
> > Paid-Time off for Union Activities
>
> > In Milwaukee County alone, because the union collectively bargained
> > for paid time off, fourteen employees receive salary and benefits for
> > doing union business. Of the fourteen, three are on full-time release
> > for union business. Milwaukee County spent over $170,000 in salary
> > alone for these employees to only participate in union activities such
> > as collective bargaining.
>
> > Surrender of Management Rights
>
> > Because of collecting bargaining, unions have included provisions in
> > employee contracts that have a direct fiscal impact such as not
> > allowing management to schedule workers based on operational needs and
> > requiring notice and approval by the union prior to scheduling
> > changes. As County Executive Walker attempted to reduce work hours
> > based on budget pressures and workload requirements by instituting a
> > 35 hour work week to avoid layoffs, which the union opposed.
> > Additionally, government cannot explore privatization of functions
> > that could save taxpayers money.
>
> > WEA Trust
>
> > Currently many school districts participate in WEA trust because WEAC
> > collectively bargains to get as many school districts across the state
> > to participate in this union run health insurance plan as possible.
> > Union leadership benefits from members participating in this plan. If
> > school districts enrolled in the state employee health plan, it would
> > save school districts up to $68 million per year. Beyond that if
> > school districts had the flexibility to look for health insurance
> > coverage outside of WEA trust or the state plan, additional savings
> > would likely be realized.
>
> > Viagra for Teachers
>
> > The Milwaukee Teachers Education Association (MTEA) tried to use a
> > policy established by collective bargaining to obtain health insurance
> > coverage that specifically paid for Viagra. Cost to taxpayers is
> > $786,000 a year.
>
> > Reference:http://abcnews.go.com/Health/milwaukee-schools-ban-viagra-teachers-un...
>
> > Unrealistic Overtime Provisions
>
> > On a state level, the Department of Corrections allows correctional
> > workers who call in sick to collect overtime if they work a shift on
> > the exact same day. The specific provision that allows this to happen
> > was collectively bargained for in their contract. Cost to taxpayers
> > $4.8 million.
>
> Everything a union gets in bargaining comes from management.
> Everything. In the case of state unions, in most cases it's utterly
> illegal for them to strike so state management doesn't have the same
> prod as industrial management. The stripping of collective bargaining
> rights for benefits was done to break the union, not to fix any
> financial problems. As it was, the Governor was in the driver's seat.
> The union had already conceded everything to him. His actions were
> anti-union and anti-democratic. He's trying to break the union to ruin
> it as a political force, and he's doing it in his first year in office
> so public outrage will fade by the time he comes up for reelection.
> The working public won't forget the insult. They'll try to recall the
> prick, and if that doesn't work, they'll throw him when his term is
> done. In any event, he's toast.
More nonsense propaganda BS from a public union goon on the dole.
cuh...@webtv.net
Skimming underway
Ahhhhhh, the Hell! with those damn Reagans!!! PISS on em!!!
Move over doggy, I am getting sleepy.
///WOO WOO WOOF!///
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
Not much of them over here . Mostly Pakistanis and Mexicans (in the
last few years ) .
cuh...@webtv.net
something on there.
cuhulin, tee vee R US
cuh...@webtv.net
first, How to spell Missy Sippy) Ahh rekon Ahh weel du sum mo woikin
enema mah attica.(wait a minit, Attica is en Noo Yawk)
A few new Earthquake articles attaka http://www.standeyo.com
y'all aren't keeping an eyeball on that massive storm out there in the
Pacific Ocean? I read/tell it's headin frum Japan to the Left
Coast.Might be a BIG BADDA BADDA BOOM BOOM Nuke Storm.
cuhulin
Lamont Cranston
Fascists hate unions, dumbfuck.
--
"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the
people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes
stronger than the democratic state itself. That, in essence, is fascism
-- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other
controlling private power." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.worldnetdaily.com
What a Screwed UP Mess!
I told y'all AT&T SUCKS! those nasty thangs a Million Miles Long!
F..K AT&T SUCKS!!!!!!
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
> AT&T: T-Mobile 3G phones will need to be replaced.http://www.worldnetdaily.com
>
> What a Screwed UP Mess!
> I told y'all AT&T SUCKS! those nasty thangs a Million Miles Long!
> F..K AT&T SUCKS!!!!!!
> cuhulin
Finally , AT&T is waking up . They got no money issue as we can see:
$39Billion for T-Mobile . They paid $83Billion (!) for Bell South in
2006 . No surprizes here . T-Mobile and AT&T use the same GSM
technology , just on different frequencies . . .
cuh...@webtv.net
enemaentitled,
4G An Early Adopter's Guide.
I am busy checkin outch ah new Nuss Lady right now.
Take two Enemas and call me enema the mawnin.
cuhulin
Brenda Ann
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I didn't read the article, wouldn't bother reading anything on
WorldNutDaily... but what I am supposing is that the current T-Mobile
infrastructure will simply be replaced on an ongoing basis by attrition.
Once the subscriber base has purchased new phones to replace their old ones
to a substantial degree (say, 75-85%), they'll simply shut down the old
T-Mobile system. After all, AT*T is not really buying the company so much as
it is buying the customers.
Pat was talking to me today, and said it pretty much to the point: AT&T is
like the T-1000: No matter how many pieces it gets blasted into, it will
always pull itself back together.
dave
dave
ATT will destroy any advantage T-Mobile had if this is allowed to go
through.
D@LS
T-Mobile SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cuh...@webtv.net
April 2011 LAPTOP magazine that showed up here yesteryday.
T-Mobile isn't down and out, not yet anyway.
http://www.laptopmag.com
Anna den Ahh gots back onnna doggy's couch annna Ahh founded dis
sumwhars onna der enterhernet.
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=This+is+why+you+always+put+a+1K+resistor+in+series+with+an+LED
Ahh don'ts knos wutz Ahh yam ahreedin.
cuhulin
bpnjensen
That's the period during which I was an adult and had the presence of
mind to pay attention.
cuh...@webtv.net
How about, http://www.kiwipc.com
anna, CUPP Hybrid PC?
cuhulin
bpnjensen
> On Mar 18, 6:53 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 18, 4:06 pm, Not Sure <fred1321...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 18, 2:25 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 18, 1:37 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 18, 3:30 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Mar 18, 1:05 pm, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > people never stop making shit up, do you? You're on Usenet now, Eddie
> > > > > > > or Chas or whatever you're calling yourself and you're not talking to
> > > > > > > a bunch of Hannity bobbleheads who wouldn't know bullshit if they had
> > > > > > > to shovel it off their cars.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > IMO, teachers are worth it. I see firsthand what they go through, and
> > > > > > they're more than Chas x 100.
>
> > > > > That's the problem. Union Fascists dictators decide who, what, when
> > > > > and where our kids are educated - WITH A GUN TO YOUR HEAD YOU MUST PAY
> > > > > THEIR BLOATED SALARY IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOTE.
>
> > > > > Go ahead and send them a donation. JUST KEEP YOUR GREAZZZY FINGERS
> > > > > OUT OF MY POCKET YOU BLOODSUCKING JACKASS!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Lately, I'm thinking you guys don't want their kids educated at all.
>
> - - - The USA is proving this to be true now every year.
> - - - Stupid and ignorant is the new chic.
>
> - - Yes, the union thugs are incredibly uneducated.
> - - Thanks for admitting it :)
>
> >-You are a good example of what I said.
>
> And You Are A Very Good Example of an Elitist
> -over-lord-of-the-masses- ~ RHF
> .
> Oh So Much More Liberal {Progressive/Collective} Whining !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9794d1137c3aad02
> .
> Wisconsin Over Spent Into Bankruptcy and Over Taxed
> Into Poverty By Excessive Public Employee Union Pay
> and Special Benefitshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d9e0c632dc8916a9
> .
> .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I admit it. Smart people should definitely be able to tell the idiots
what to do. As proof of this postulate, I offer as evidence what
effect the opposite situation has had.
bpnjensen
> On 03/21/2011 07:43 PM, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:> AT&T: T-Mobile 3G phones will need to be replaced.
It has.
D. Peter Maus
You're of the few, Bruce.
D@LS
Not by the U.S. government.
m II
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On 11-03-22 09:09 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
> That's the period during which I was an adult and had the presence of
> mind to pay attention.
Growing younger again, Mister Jensen?
mike
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On 11-03-22 08:56 AM, cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=This+is+why+you+always+put+a+1K+resistor+in+series+with+an+LED
Note the 'British Made' frame around the defective LEDs. That means it's
made by LUCAS electronics, famous for making things that are the
antithesis of Quality.
http://wordpress.mrreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/split-resistor.jpg
For those of you blessed with Microsoft's 'ruin the URL' feature:
This LED is probably split because they wanted to double Corporate
profits without actually doubling production. The engineering team
thought the 'single lead' LED would be a real sales success, due to
greatly reduced installation costs.
mike
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cuh...@webtv.net
I gived doggy one of them
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Virbac+CET+Dental+Chew
thangys.She chewed it up, ate it, said, <urp>
cuhulin
D Peter Maus
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> On 11-03-22 08:56 AM, cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=This+is+why+you+always+put+a+1K+resistor+in+series+with+an+LED
>
>
> Note the 'British Made' frame around the defective LEDs. That means it's
> made by LUCAS electronics, famous for making things that are the
> antithesis of Quality.
>
Lucas' reputation was built on experiences with low end British cars
and other products at a low price point. Because the Lucas electric
products, themselves, were built to a price point, they were of low
quality. If you buy cheap, you get cheap.
However, I was stunned to find that the fan motors on my 308, of
exceptional build quality (with prices that ran into 4 figures), were
also built by Lucas.
And Lucas is one of the primary electric suppliers to the Space Program.
They clearly can do it.
It's just that so few care to pay for it.
D. Peter Maus
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> On 11-03-22 09:09 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
>> That's the period during which I was an adult and had the presence of
>> mind to pay attention.
>
>
> Growing younger again, Mister Jensen?
>
> mike
>
>
>
Age is only a number. Youth is a state of mind.
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
arthr...@webtv.net
It will take about a year and usually it does get approved . T-Mobile
is owned by Deutche Telekom so this shouldn't have any major
obstacles .
arthr...@webtv.net
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> Note the 'British Made' frame around the defective LEDs. That means it's
> made by LUCAS electronics, famous for making things that are the
> antithesis of Quality.
>
>
> For those of you blessed with Microsoft's 'ruin the URL' feature:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5t8zylq
>
> This LED is probably split because they wanted to double Corporate
> profits without actually doubling production. The engineering team
> thought the 'single lead' LED would be a real sales success, due to
> greatly reduced installation costs.
>
> mike
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Whoever 'split' that misfortunate LED most likely applied AC mains
voltage to the leads . Seen it before . Even WITH a 1K resistor .
m II
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On 11-03-19 05:42 PM, cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> Only in backwater hick barefoot Missy Sippy! The First State to start
> selling Shoes two to a box, in Vicksburg.
Weird. The State made more in taxes selling them ONE in a box. The box
lobby probably quit paying the politicos. The locals wearing differing
shoes on their feet used to be a tourist attraction, as it was in
Holland MI. There, the right foot always wore a wooden shoe, the left
was the wearer's choice.
Many Mississippi sports personalities endorsed running shoes, with an
Adidas on one foot and a Nike on the other. Amazingly, they could
usually still walk in a straight line between the lynchings, cross
burnings and exploding churches.
mike
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arthr...@webtv.net
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Pardon me ,but are you another Time Traveller from the late 19th
century ?
cuh...@webtv.net
Refueling Valve.Meridian,Missy Sippy.The Keys Brothers.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
Yeah, in fact of the business,,,,,
ZAPPPP!,,,,,,,
cuhulin
Rich Grise
....
> Message was signed with unknown key 0x6450FB7B.
> The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
What does this mean, and why is your post rendered with a yellow
background?
Thanks,
Rich
cuh...@webtv.net
Stuart Irby (I had mispelled his name before) still looked a little bit
''Tipsy'' when I saw him walking to Court in the video clip on WLBT 3
12:00 PM tee vee noos earlier today.He is a weird lookin dude, looks
sort of like a Hoot Owl.
cuhulin
m II
Hash: SHA1
If it's the message starting this particular thread, it should be fine.
It verifies fine on this end. I don't know if the different versions of
pgp are all still compatible.
The PGP encryption/signature program builds a unique signature for each
message. When the barnacle posing as me in several newsgroups copies and
pastes a signature to one of his messages, the numbers don't jive, hence
the lack of verification. Even one character difference in the body
makes the copied signature invalid.
If you are using pgp, the following keyservers should be included in
your settings.
hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371
hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371
ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
I hate this bs, but don't see any other way of protecting myself. The
impostor has been sending racist crap in my name to some other groups.
The pgp stuff gives me a way of proving I didn't commit some sort of
online crime.
I can see the future being completely screwed up by the juveniles, such
as Nymbecile, Josepi, etc. etc., with mandatory posting ID
implementation. The government will be doing it for our own protection.
mike
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dave
Looks like Ubuntu for netbooks. How much? You can get an Asus like that
for $400 or so.
dave
No. FCC and DOJ both need to approve.
dave
il Duce il Duce!
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Lucas+Electric+Wireing
I have never owned a Brit car before.I Don't Ever want to own a Brit car
either.
http://www.uglycars.co.uk
Brits don't know how to cook and they don't know how to build decent
cars either.
Dats Dat!
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
Amazing Film, four days before the Great California Earthquake of April
18th, 1906.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=304939
Kind of reminds me of the Sunrise movie and some of those old Charlie
Chaplin movies and some of those other very old movies, especially the
Silent Movies.It is like stepping back in Time, kind of Spooky.
There is NO Way digital photography can ever top Film Photography!
cuhulin
m II
Hash: SHA1
On 11-03-18 11:52 PM, arthr...@webtv.net wrote:
> Logarithmically so ...
Logarithm? Must be a Catholic woodcutter's birth control method..
mike
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cuh...@webtv.net
You can be the first kid on the block spotein one of those on your
wrist.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.rense.com
Git chosef ah glass quart jar and fill it about half full of water.Dress
up like Larry the Cable Guy.(on the History channel right now) Walk
around/stand around outside with your glass quart jar of water.Pretend
it's Moonshine.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.clarionledger.com
I am fixin to check out the Clarion Ledger Classifieds.
cuhulin
T
says...
You call a Jaguar cheap? Maybe back in the day.
However, there is a reason that Sir Lucas is known as the Prince of
Darkness.
cuh...@webtv.net
part of U.S.Ford Motor Company.And That IS The TRUTH!
What Jaguar is like nowadays, ever since U.S.Ford parted company with
Jaguar, I do not know.
cuhulin
D. Peter Maus
Yes. And that was explained.
arthr...@webtv.net
Tata Motors , Mumbai . The new owners . Good luck ...
Ecnerwal
T <kd1s....@cox.nospam.net> wrote:
> However, there is a reason that Sir Lucas is known as the Prince of
> Darkness.
I always preferred "If Lucas made guns, wars wouldn't start either."
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