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N∅ ∅baMa∅

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Dec 24, 2010, 4:38:11 PM12/24/10
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John Smith

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Dec 24, 2010, 4:47:46 PM12/24/10
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On 12/24/2010 1:38 PM, N∅ ∅baMa∅ wrote:
> http://page.townhall.com/DefundNPR/

http://www.npr.org/

Under the "Listen" tab, you can find the streams ... to listen online.

Regards,
JS

Ron

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Dec 24, 2010, 5:15:06 PM12/24/10
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On Dec 24, 3:38 pm, N∅ ∅baMa∅ <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> http://page.townhall.com/DefundNPR/
.
.
This is an old Mantra. Get up to date on NPR funding. Go to:

http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html

Where we read the following, with my added CAPS:

"NPR's revenue comes primarily from fees paid by our member stations,
contributions from corporate sponsors, institutional foundation
grants, gifts from major donors, and fees paid by users of The Public
Radio Satellite System. WE RECEIVE NO DIRECT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR
OPERATIONS. The largest share of NPR's revenue comes from program
fees and station dues paid by member stations that broadcast NPR
programs."

Your post illustrates so much of what is wrong with Wingers. They
rant and rave over subjects about which they know nothing. Zilch.

RO

Hunter

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Dec 24, 2010, 6:51:25 PM12/24/10
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"N? ?baMa?" <obamao.sux....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://page.townhall.com/DefundNPR/

As long as Cheney tax cuts are in effect for FOX you'll have NPR for years.
NPR ratings bury FOX.


Tim Crowley

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Dec 25, 2010, 11:28:49 AM12/25/10
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On Dec 24, 1:38 pm, N∅ ∅baMa∅ <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> http://page.townhall.com/DefundNPR/

Buahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


hint: k000k a d000dle D0

Tim Crowley

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Oh now you went and confused the idiot with facts.

Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets

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Is Rush Limbaugh still on Armed Forces Radio?

∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

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Dec 25, 2010, 2:29:14 PM12/25/10
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NPR Derives 41% of Funding From YOUR Taxes

How Public Is NPR's Funding? Options
By Mark Browning

De-fund NPR! In the wake of the firing of Juan Williams by National
Public Radio, we've once again heard conservative voices issue that
call. NPR representatives respond, as they always do when their
dependence on government purse strings is noted, by arguing that only
two or three percent of the service's money comes from the federal
government. NPR apologist Norah O'Donnell recently threw out a one to
three-percent figure on MSNBC.

Norah's New Math Grossly Understates NPR's Fed Funding
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/10/22/norahs-new-math-grossly-understates-nprs-fed-funding

We don't see these people volunteering to give up that three percent,
but we have to admit that this amount of funding is not the gigantic
boondoggle we might prefer to oppose. Is this three-percent number a
fair claim by the NPR crowd? Apparently, in a very limited sense, it
is, but in a more comprehensive analysis, it is nowhere near
accurate.

To understand NPR funding, we have to recognize that public radio is a
two-tier operation. There is, on the one hand, the network itself, the
Washington-based producer of programs that actually terminated Juan
Williams' contract. On the other hand, there is the collection of some
nine hundred NPR affiliate radio stations who bring this programming
to radios around the United States. We cannot hope to understand NPR's
finances without understanding the stations as well, so let's begin
there.

According to information available from the NPR website [Oct 2010],
http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html
local radio station money comes from the following sources:

32.1% Individual contributions

21.1% Business contributions

13.6% University funds

10.1% Corporation for Public Broadcasting funds

9.6% Foundation money

5.6% Federal, state, and local government funds

7.6% Other

At first glance, this distribution of funds seems to confirm that
public radio's support does not come in large amounts from the direct
allocation of tax moneys. After all, 5.6% is not a gigantic portion of
the budget, is it? But let's look more closely. That 10.1% that comes
from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting is 99% provided by -- you
guessed it -- the federal government. Those university funds, whenever
they are provided by a public university, represent taxpayer-provided
dollars. We can safely assert that three out of four university-
supported stations are publicly funded, which means that more than 10%
(three-quarters of that 13.6%) is taken from the taxpayer's pockets.

So far, we find that NPR member stations count on direct or indirect
taxpayer money for some 25% of their funds -- and that's before we
consider some of the largest portions of their budgets.

Obviously the support by individuals, businesses, and foundations does
not constitute taxpayer funding, right? Not so fast. These donations
are tax-deductible; thus, they are subsidized by the government.
Granted, not every gift is actually reflected on an individual or
business tax return, and not all of those that are itemized wind up
offsetting high marginal tax rates. Still, it is reasonable to
believe that on average, these gifts result in deductions at the 25%
tax bracket. Since these three categories add up to roughly 64% of
station funds, we can reasonably argue that 16% of that money (64% x
0.25) is subsidized by the tax code.

In the end, then, local NPR affiliates derive something like 41% of
their funding from taxes, either directly or indirectly.

What about the entity that generated all the buzz for firing Juan
Williams? Interestingly, despite their conflicting 2% and 3% claims,
the NPR website says, "We receive no direct federal funding for
operations." Of course, that sort of statement leaves open the
possibility of receiving direct federal funding for other purposes.
What are those? They don't volunteer that information easily. What
they do point out prominently is that the biggest source of money is
from member stations. Local stations pay dues and fees for the
programs they rebroadcast. This money, recorded as Station Programming
Fees (40%), Membership Dues (1%), and Distribution Services (8%),
accounts for nearly half of NPR's funds.

Why is this significant? You do recall that some 41% of local station
money came from taxpayers, right? If 50% of funding comes from money
that is 40% derived from taxes, then another 20% of NPR's budget
comes, indirectly, from taxpayers. Twenty percent! That's a long way
from the 2%-3% figures, isn't it?

The next huge chunk of NPR income comes from "Sponsorships." These are
the things that, in any other media outlet, would be called
advertisements. We could argue that sponsorship money is tax-
deductible and therefore partly taxpayer-funded, but, lest we look
like double-standard-wielding lefties, we would have to make the same
argument for the ads that car companies run on ABC and CBS. Let's face
it: virtually every large corporation in America enjoys some form of
government largesse. That's what happens when government tentacles
reach into all portions of our lives.

On the other hand, there is much more clarity when we look to the 10%
"Grants and Contributions" category that represents direct taxpayer
gifting (most prominently by way of the Corporation for Public
Broadcasting) and indirect taxpayer support by way of tax deductions.
Is it reasonable to say that half of that 10% comes in one way or
another from taxes? I think so, but I'll settle for saying that this
category adds just 3% to the total. This brings our total of taxpayer
support for the entire NPR budget to around 23%.

Given that only 89% of the NPR income pie comes from external sources
(the rest coming from investment returns), it is not unreasonable to
assert that more than 25% of NPR funds from outside sources actually
comes from taxpayers. That's not an overwhelming portion of the
budget, but it's a long way from two to three percent.

As annoying as I find the bias at MSNBC or the New York Times, I will
respect to the end their right to be as biased as they'd like. What
they do with their money and whatever funds they can convince
advertisers to kick in is their own business. The same does not apply
to the likes of NPR. That's your money and my money going into their
coffers and funding that unbalanced message. We need to demand that
NPR either be pushed away from the public trough or be required to
present a modicum of evenhandedness.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/how_public_is_nprs_funding.html

See also:

George Soros’ Millions Buying ‘Political Reporters’ for NPR

http://bigjournalism.com/wthuston/2010/10/18/george-soros-millions-buying-political-reporters-for-npr/
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/George_Soros

Will Republicans Fight to Defund 'Public Broadcasting'?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/will_republicans_fight_to_defu.html

Comparing Jews to Nazis Meets NPR's 'Editorial Standards and
Practices'
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/comparing_jews_to_nazis_meets.html

NPRs Disgrace
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/10/22/nprs-disgrace/

dave

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Dec 25, 2010, 4:29:26 PM12/25/10
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On 12/25/2010 11:29 AM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:

in addition to the services of our military and State Department. We are
being bled dry by foreign predator corporations and you're worried about
a few million dollars for Click and Clack and Will Shorts?

You are a tool of the Koch brothers and the USA Chamber of Commerce
(which despite its name specializes in lobbying foreign companies). They
can't allow a credible news source to interfere with their high-dollae
anarchy.

RHF

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Dec 25, 2010, 4:58:58 PM12/25/10
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Idiot-R-Us : CPB & PBS & NPR :
Who Really Funds {Pays For} Them All ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/810d33ce92426ac7
.
First "NPR" Is 100% FUNDED BY THE US FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT -by- Means Both Directly and Indirectly
. . . Just Follow the Flow of Money . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/810d33ce92426ac7

* Your US Federal Government Tax Money

* Plus Higher Taxes That You Pay Because :
'Other' Tax Payers {Donations};
Foundations {Sponsors}; and
Corporations {Underwriters}
Pay Less Taxes or NO Taxes At All Due To
Tax Write-Offs and Tax-Breaks by the US
Federal Government to "Indirectly" Fund CPB,
PBS and NPR.

* Also Please Note - That Many/Most US States
Give/Allow these Same Write-Offs and Tax-Breaks
to "Indirectly" Fund CPB, PBS and NPR.

* And Many/Most US States Directly Fund Their
Own {In-State} Pubic Media System which often
is the very same CPB, PBS and NPR Activities;
Functions and Members. {Resulting In More Direct
State Tax Money Added To The Public Media Pot.}

who funds and pays for 'pubic' media : you do
directly via taxes; and indirectly via tax-breaks
and tax-write-offs given to others ~ RHF
.
.

(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>

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On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:38:11 -0800 (PST),
N? ?baMa? <obamao.sux....@gmail.com> wrote:


> Petition to Defund National Propaganda Radio - NPR

There's further validation of the term, "RIGHTARD."

And: NPR = National PUBLIC Radio, dimwit. One of the
FINEST and most educational channels on all of television.

(So it's no wonder YOU don't appreciate it.)

Please DO continue to be a LAUGHINGSTOCK. It's good
for society to see what DOLTS you uneducated losers are.


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On Dec 25, 5:05 pm, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://

www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <x...@p.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:38:11 -0800 (PST),
>
> N? ?baMa? <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >       Petition to Defund National Propaganda Radio - NPR
>
>      There's further validation of the term, "RIGHTARD."
>
- And:  NPR = National PUBLIC Radio, dimwit.

"CC" OK so you got the : NPR =
"National Public Radio" part right.
.
- One of the FINEST and most educational channels
- on all of television.

But which part of Radio -ain't- TV don't you understand !?!

PBS = Public Broadcasting Systems is the TV part
of the CPB = Corporation for Public Broadcasting's
BIG Government Liberal Media Propaganda Mechanism.
.


Idiot-R-Us : CPB & PBS & NPR :
Who Really Funds {Pays For} Them All ?

-you-do-and-do-and-do-...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ab8093a41e9bb0c
.
.

>
>     (So it's no wonder YOU don't appreciate it.)
>
>     Please DO continue to be a LAUGHINGSTOCK.  It's good
> for society to see what DOLTS you uneducated losers are.
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>                 •••                   Rest in Peace                    •••
>                 •••          George Richard Tiller, MD           •••
>                 •••           A True American HERO!            •••
>                 •••    August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009      •••
>                 •••      Visit --  http://iamdrtiller.com        •••
>
>        "He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've
>    died otherwise, thousands who would've been made sterile
>    or gravely injured by childbirth.  He knew his life was at grave
>    risk.  Dr. Tiller was a true Saint."
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Republicans : Democrats :: Heartless : Spineless
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>                                   Merry Christmas, 2010?
>

> http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/cartoonsan...


>
> http://
> thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/
> uploads/2010/12/cartoonsanta.jpg    ...reassemble if URL is shortened.
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>                    THIS can really be helpful to many people!
>
>   Does your life seem hopeless?  Do you feel like you're out of options,
> or do you know someone who may be at risk?  It's only TEMPORARY,
> and things WILL get better!!  Call 1-800-273-TALK  (-7255).  You have
> nothing to lose, and everything to gain!  (TEENS -- here's some food 4
> for thought:  Have you ever wondered why the suicide rate is LOWER
> for adults than for teens?  'WAY lower?  It's because things DO get far
> better once you get just a little older!
>
>            OTHER Usenet participants:  
>            I invite you include the above message in your SIGS.
>            Help to BEAT the teen suicide crisis!
>
>               = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
>  -- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)  E-Mail me if you wish, from sites below:
>
> http://www.LayoffRemedy.com  -- Unemployment Solution! If you're
> earning less than $200 a day, you are UNDER-employed. This site can
> SOLVE that problem for you, and wondrously improve your life! (Start

> by taking the FREE Aptitude Test!)http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com  -- Fight the hateful  RRR Cult!http://apifar.blogspot.com  -- Tactics: Defending Human Rightshttp://pro-christian.blogspot.com  -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotryhttp://www.shadowandillusion.com  -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"http://www.TravelForPay.org  -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL!

WR

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> Norah's New Math Grossly Understates NPR's Fed Fundinghttp://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/10/22/norahs-n...

>
> We don't see these people volunteering to give up that three percent,
> but we have to admit that this amount of funding is not the gigantic
> boondoggle we might prefer to oppose. Is this three-percent number a
> fair claim by the NPR crowd? Apparently, in a very limited sense, it
> is, but in a more comprehensive analysis, it is nowhere near
> accurate.
>
> To understand NPR funding, we have to recognize that public radio is a
> two-tier operation. There is, on the one hand, the network itself, the
> Washington-based producer of programs that actually terminated Juan
> Williams' contract. On the other hand, there is the collection of some
> nine hundred NPR affiliate radio stations who bring this programming
> to radios around the United States. We cannot hope to understand NPR's
> finances without understanding the stations as well, so let's begin
> there.
>
> According to information available from the NPR website [Oct 2010],http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html
> http://bigjournalism.com/wthuston/2010/10/18/george-soros-millions-bu...http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/George_Soros
>
> Will Republicans Fight to Defund 'Public Broadcasting'?http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/will_republicans_fight_to_defu...

>
> Comparing Jews to Nazis Meets NPR's 'Editorial Standards and
> Practices'http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/comparing_jews_to_nazis_meets....
>
> NPRs Disgracehttp://frontpagemag.com/2010/10/22/nprs-disgrace/

Cite one instance, one report in which NPR has not been utterly fair
and given full voice to Conservative, Liberal, Republican and
Democrat. The problem with you Rightards is, and always has been, if a
news show isn't a propaganda front for wingnuts, to you its the enemy.
You don't believe in fair, balanced, or accurate reporting, all of
which NPR provides.

WR

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Dec 26, 2010, 12:45:59 AM12/26/10
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On Dec 26, 12:21 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On Dec 25, 5:05 pm, "(¯`·.¸   Craig  Chilton  ¸.·´¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <x...@p.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:38:11 -0800 (PST),
>
> > N? ?baMa? <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >       Petition to Defund National Propaganda Radio - NPR
>
> >      There's further validation of the term, "RIGHTARD."
>
> - And:  NPR = National PUBLIC Radio, dimwit.
>
> "CC" OK so you got the : NPR =
> "National Public Radio" part right.
>  .
> - One of the FINEST and most educational channels
> - on all of television.
>
> But which part of Radio -ain't- TV don't you understand !?!
>
> PBS = Public Broadcasting Systems is the TV part
> of the CPB = Corporation for Public Broadcasting's
> BIG Government Liberal Media Propaganda Mechanism.
>  .
> Idiot-R-Us : CPB & PBS & NPR :
> Who Really Funds {Pays For} Them All ?
> -you-do-and-do-and-do-...http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ab8093a41e9bb0c

Hoe is NPR a "liberal media propaganda platform?" When don't they
allow both or all sides of an issue to be discussed and when haven't
they treated conservatives with respect?

RHF

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Dec 26, 2010, 12:46:28 AM12/26/10
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> Norah's New Math Grossly Understates NPR's Fed Fundinghttp://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/10/22/norahs-n...

>
> We don't see these people volunteering to give up that three percent,
> but we have to admit that this amount of funding is not the gigantic
> boondoggle we might prefer to oppose. Is this three-percent number a
> fair claim by the NPR crowd? Apparently, in a very limited sense, it
> is, but in a more comprehensive analysis, it is nowhere near
> accurate.
>
> To understand NPR funding, we have to recognize that public radio is a
> two-tier operation. There is, on the one hand, the network itself, the
> Washington-based producer of programs that actually terminated Juan
> Williams' contract. On the other hand, there is the collection of some
> nine hundred NPR affiliate radio stations who bring this programming
> to radios around the United States. We cannot hope to understand NPR's
> finances without understanding the stations as well, so let's begin
> there.

- According to information available from the NPR
- website [Oct 2010],
- http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/publicradiofinances.html
- local radio station money comes from the following sources:

Actually Each and Every US Tax Payer Pays For
All of CPB & PBS & NPR Costs
: : : -and-here-is-how- : : :
.
- 32.1% Individual contributions
Tax Deductibles -meaning- a loss in Tax Revenues
made-up-by Higher Taxes Paid by other US Tax Payers.
.
- 21.1% Business contributions
Tax Write-Offs -meaning- a loss in Tax Revenues
made-up-by Higher Taxes Paid by other US Tax Payers.
.
- 13.6% University funds
Tax Exempt -meaning- a loss in Tax Revenues
made-up-by Higher Taxes Paid by other US Tax Payers.
.
- 10.1% Corporation for Public Broadcasting funds
CPB Funds that are Paid for By Your US Taxes.
.
- 9.6%  Foundation money
Tax Exempt -meaning- a loss in Tax Revenues
made-up-by Higher Taxes Paid by other US Tax Payers.
.
- 5.6% Federal, state, and local government funds
1st - Funds Paid For By Taxes : That You Paid For In Taxes.
2nd - Tax Exempt -meaning- a loss in Tax Revenues
made-up-by Higher Taxes Paid by other US Tax Payers.
.
- 7.6% Other
From Foreign Governments and Corporations that
receive Tax 'Off-Sets' from the Federal US Government
-meaning- a loss in Foreign Tax Revenues made-up-by
Higher Taxes Paid by other US Tax Payers.


.
Idiot-R-Us : CPB & PBS & NPR :
Who Really Funds {Pays For} Them All ?
-you-do-and-do-and-do-...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ab8093a41e9bb0c
.

Just Say 'NO' To The Separation of Government
and Propaganda :
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for CPB !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for PBS !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for NPR !
.
.

> http://bigjournalism.com/wthuston/2010/10/18/george-soros-millions-bu...http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/George_Soros
>
> Will Republicans Fight to Defund 'Public Broadcasting'?http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/will_republicans_fight_to_defu...


>
> Comparing Jews to Nazis Meets NPR's 'Editorial Standards and

> Practices'http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/comparing_jews_to_nazis_meets....
>
> NPRs Disgracehttp://frontpagemag.com/2010/10/22/nprs-disgrace/

Christopher Helms

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Dec 26, 2010, 1:03:34 AM12/26/10
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You don't understand. Allowing more than one voice to be heard is the
epitome of "liberal" in their tiny little minds.

Werner

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Speaking about facts and idiots, Timmy farts again.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/how_public_is_nprs_funding.html

Werner

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Dec 26, 2010, 1:07:45 AM12/26/10
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Both the military and State Department are enumerated powers. Not so
with funding NPR.

If we cut all unconstitutional spending we would have a very much
smaller budget.

Werner

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Dec 26, 2010, 1:09:07 AM12/26/10
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> > Will Republicans Fight to Defund 'Public Broadcasting'?http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/will_republicans_fight_to_defu...
>
> > Comparing Jews to Nazis Meets NPR's 'Editorial Standards and
> > Practices'http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/comparing_jews_to_nazis_meets....
>
> > NPRs Disgracehttp://frontpagemag.com/2010/10/22/nprs-disgrace/
>
> Cite one instance, one report in  which NPR has not been utterly fair
> and given full voice to Conservative, Liberal, Republican and
> Democrat. The problem with you Rightards is, and always has been, if a
> news show isn't a propaganda front for wingnuts, to you its the enemy.
> You don't believe in fair, balanced, or accurate reporting, all of
> which NPR provides.


Fair is in the eye of the beholder. Those beholding NPR should pay for
it. Those who don't behold should not have to pay.

Werner

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Dec 26, 2010, 1:11:34 AM12/26/10
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You have a very limited response repertoire.

Werner

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Dec 26, 2010, 1:14:10 AM12/26/10
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On Dec 25, 8:05 pm, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://

www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <x...@p.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:38:11 -0800 (PST),
>
> N? ?baMa? <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >       Petition to Defund National Propaganda Radio - NPR
>
>      There's further validation of the term, "RIGHTARD."
>
>     And:  NPR = National PUBLIC Radio, dimwit.  One of the
> FINEST and most educational channels on all of television.
>
>     (So it's no wonder YOU don't appreciate it.)
> ...


But it should not be funded by tax money. That, you see, is the issue.
Also, duncewhit, there is no PUBLIC.
http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/Myth.shtml

Werner

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Dec 26, 2010, 1:16:31 AM12/26/10
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You don't understand subsidizing some voices and not all voices is not
equality. It makes some pigs are more equal than others.

RHF

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Dec 26, 2010, 7:52:42 AM12/26/10
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On Dec 25, 10:07 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 4:29 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > On 12/25/2010 11:29 AM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
>
> > in addition to the services of our military and State Department. We are
> > being bled dry by foreign predator corporations and you're worried about
> > a few million dollars for Click and Clack and Will Shorts?
>
> > You are a tool of the Koch brothers and the USA Chamber of Commerce
> > (which despite its name specializes in lobbying foreign companies). They
> > can't allow a credible news source to interfere with their high-dollae
> > anarchy.

- Both the military and State Department are enumerated
- powers. Not so with funding NPR.
-
- If we cut all unconstitutional spending we would have a very much
- smaller budget.

Please do not talk 'Rational {Pure} Un-Adulterated Facts
to our 'Special-Dave' who espouses his own reality of :
"Facts Have A Liberal Bias"*
* Tortured To Mean What You Want Them To Mean.
* Distorted To Prove hat You Want Them To Prove.
* Twisted From Truth To Lie.

-cause-to- 'Special-Dave' It Is Good That
NPR Has A 'Selective' Fact Based 'Liberal Bias'.

The Big Liberal-Lie and Democrat-Distortion
Tax Payers and Tax Money Does NOT Fund
and Support CPB & PBS & NPR
-cause- It Really Does Both Directly and Indirectly [.]
.


Actually Each and Every US Tax Payer Pays For

All of CPB & PBS & NPR Costs -and-here-is-how-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b54e3a40a76d3f61


.
Idiot-R-Us : CPB & PBS & NPR :
Who Really Funds {Pays For} Them All ?
-you-do-and-do-and-do-...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ab8093a41e9bb0c
.

Petition to Defund National Propaganda Radio - NPR

-read- http://page.townhall.com/DefundNPR/
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/997d9262827541f2


.
Just Say 'NO' To The Separation of Government and

Liberal-Socialist-Political-Ideas plus the Progressive
Agenda Actions by CPB & PBS & NPR "Propaganda" :


* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for CPB !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for PBS !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for NPR !

SAY 'NO' TO THE THEOLOGY OF LIBERALISM !
SAY 'NO' TO THE RELIGION OF PROGRESSIVISM !
.
NPR Derives 41% of Funding From YOUR Taxes :


Petition to Defund National Propaganda Radio - NPR

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7e2869e2edc421d5
.
.

RHF

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Dec 26, 2010, 8:16:16 AM12/26/10
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On Dec 25, 10:14 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 8:05 pm, "(¯`·.¸   Craig  Chilton  ¸.·´¯) <http://
>
> www.LayoffRemedy.com>" <x...@p.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:38:11 -0800 (PST),
>
> > N? ?baMa? <obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >       Petition to Defund National Propaganda Radio - NPR
>
> >      There's further validation of the term, "RIGHTARD."
>
> >     And:  NPR = National PUBLIC Radio, dimwit.  One of the
> > FINEST and most educational channels on all of television.
>
> >     (So it's no wonder YOU don't appreciate it.)
> > ...

- But it should not be funded by tax money.
- That, you see, is the issue.
- Also, duncewhit, there is no PUBLIC.
-  http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/Myth.shtml

All the so-called Public Broadcasters and their
'local' Stations are Controlled by the Liberal-Elite
{Over-Lords} Using Tax Payer Money To Force
The Progressive Agenda On The Public [.]
* A Board Composted of the Liberal-Elite
-not- Elected By The Common Hardworking American
US Citizens 'The Public' of the Local Community.
* Managed by the Agents of Liberal-Elite
-not- With No-Say From The Common Hardworking
American US Citizens 'The Public'
* Funded by The Taxes of the Common Hardworking
American US Citizens 'The Public'
-but- They Get No-Say
-cause- The Liberal-Elite Control All.
.
PUT AN END TO THE LIBERAL-ELITE'S CONTROL OF
CPB & PBS & NPR -by- OPEN PUBLIC ELECTIONS OF ALL
Both National Boards and 'Local' Stations.
-cause- The Public Trust Belongs In The Hands
Of The Public* [.]
* Common Hardworking American US Tax Paying Citizens.


.
The Big Liberal-Lie and Democrat-Distortion Tax Payers
and Tax Money Does NOT Fund and Support CPB & PBS
& NPR

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ed5c8eaa88bda944


.
Just Say 'NO' To The Separation of Government and
Liberal-Socialist-Political-Ideas plus the Progressive
Agenda Actions by CPB & PBS & NPR "Propaganda" :
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for CPB !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for PBS !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for NPR !
SAY 'NO' TO THE THEOLOGY OF LIBERALISM !
SAY 'NO' TO THE RELIGION OF PROGRESSIVISM !
.

.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 9:48:08 AM12/26/10
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On 12/25/2010 09:41 PM, WR wrote:
>
>
> Cite one instance, one report in which NPR has not been utterly fair
> and given full voice to Conservative, Liberal, Republican and
> Democrat. The problem with you Rightards is, and always has been, if a
> news show isn't a propaganda front for wingnuts, to you its the enemy.
> You don't believe in fair, balanced, or accurate reporting, all of
> which NPR provides.

The last thing the ruling elite (Koch Brothers, the Olins, the Scaifes,
etc.) wants is a healthy competent source of unbiased news. As long as
the people find out who's pulling the strings their power is limited.

NPR may be our last fort in the war against the middle class being waged
by very mean amoral rich people.

dave

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dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 9:57:25 AM12/26/10
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On 12/25/2010 10:04 PM, Werner wrote:
> On Dec 25, 12:31 pm, Tim Crowley<timmyturm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 24, 2:15 pm, Ron<roneal1...@att.net> wrote:

Roy Fisk and Jerry are both tools of right wing hate radio, which in
turn is a fully owned subsidiary of the Military Congressional
Industrial Complex. As long as they live, you slowly die.

Eat thee rich.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 10:03:58 AM12/26/10
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Fine. The Coast Guard is the only standing army enumerated. Import
duties and excise taxes are the only legal way to fund the government.
We immediately recall all troops from all undeclared wars, and shut NASA
down, because there's not one mention of rocket ships in the Constitution.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 10:13:53 AM12/26/10
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On 12/25/2010 10:09 PM, Werner wrote:

>
> Fair is in the eye of the beholder. Those beholding NPR should pay for
> it. Those who don't behold should not have to pay.

I feel the same about the Marine Corps.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 10:19:26 AM12/26/10
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We already had that argument during the Enlightenment; the Social
Contract, which is the basis of democratic republican government,
ensued. It says we surrender some personal liberty to advance the public
good. The Founders were heavily into Locke and Rousseau, I suggest you
follow suit, so you don't come off like a moron around here. Some of us
pay attention, Mr. "Libertarian".

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 10:22:41 AM12/26/10
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On 12/25/2010 10:16 PM, Werner wrote:
> You don't understand subsidizing some voices and not all voices is not
> equality. It makes some pigs are more equal than others.

Every time you buy an advertised product you are subsidizing Fox News.
Companies write off advertising while wage earners pick up the slack in
government funding. Bkig companies have miles of loopholes to hide
behind and squeeze us coming and going. Your bumper sticker wisdom won't
cut it with this Patriot.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 10:38:01 AM12/26/10
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On 12/26/2010 05:16 AM, RHF wrote:

>
> All the so-called Public Broadcasters and their
> 'local' Stations are Controlled by the Liberal-Elite
> {Over-Lords} Using Tax Payer Money To Force
> The Progressive Agenda On The Public [.]

The ultra right wing Koch Family Foundation is an underwriter of NPR
programming (ever hear an all-classical NPR station in the South?). When
NPR News reported that the Kochs were financing the TEA party and a
hundred million dollars in attack ads against democrats and health care,
Dave and Charles went a little funny in the head and ordered their
stooges (Limbaugh, Hannity, et al) to go after NPR.

It has nothing to do with liberal bias. It has everything to with
telling the truth while bravely biting the hand that feeds.

First Post

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Dec 26, 2010, 9:56:02 AM12/26/10
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Do you ever have any proof of your ramblings or are you just another
Gary Rozelles or Ray Fischer sock puppet?

Werner

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Dec 26, 2010, 10:41:54 AM12/26/10
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The Social Contract is based on the notion of allegiance, that is to
say 'voluntary' acceptance, not imposition. It should become
increasingly clear that people are opting out of impositions and
resisting obedience. The Social Contract is based on individuals not a
collective. There is no collective, only individuals.

You can call those who disagree with you morons, but Does that not
misses the point political equality in a big way?

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 12:07:39 PM12/26/10
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On 12/26/2010 07:41 AM, Werner wrote:

>
>
> The Social Contract is based on the notion of allegiance, that is to
> say 'voluntary' acceptance, not imposition. It should become
> increasingly clear that people are opting out of impositions and
> resisting obedience. The Social Contract is based on individuals not a
> collective. There is no collective, only individuals.
>
> You can call those who disagree with you morons, but Does that not
> misses the point political equality in a big way?
>

I said "like a moron". If you don't want to play I hear there's a cabin
for sale in Montana. Here's a conundrum vis a vis your allegedly
libertarian stance, that has never been truer.

"Nobody's free until everybody's free"

dave

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On 12/26/2010 06:56 AM, First Post wrote:


>
> Do you ever have any proof of your ramblings or are you just another
> Gary Rozelles or Ray Fischer sock puppet?
>

The Kochs operate oil refineries in Alaska, Texas, and Minnesota, and
control some four thousand miles of pipeline. Koch Industries owns
Brawny paper towels, Dixie cups, Georgia-Pacific lumber, Stainmaster
carpet, and Lycra, among other products. Forbes ranks it as the
second-largest private company in the country, after Cargill, and its
consistent profitability has made David and Charles Koch�who, years ago,
bought out two other brothers�among the richest men in America. Their
combined fortune of thirty-five billion dollars is exceeded only by
those of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett.

* from the issue
* cartoon bank
* e-mail this

The Kochs are longtime libertarians who believe in drastically lower
personal and corporate taxes, minimal social services for the needy, and
much less oversight of industry�especially environmental regulation.
These views dovetail with the brothers� corporate interests. In a study
released this spring, the University of Massachusetts at Amherst�s
Political Economy Research Institute named Koch Industries one of the
top ten air polluters in the United States. And Greenpeace issued a
report identifying the company as a �kingpin of climate science denial.�
The report showed that, from 2005 to 2008, the Kochs vastly outdid
ExxonMobil in giving money to organizations fighting legislation related
to climate change, underwriting a huge network of foundations, think
tanks, and political front groups. Indeed, the brothers have funded
opposition campaigns against so many Obama Administration policies�from
health-care reform to the economic-stimulus program�that, in political
circles, their ideological network is known as the Kochtopus.


Read more
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer#ixzz19EqehFbO

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 26, 2010, 12:03:56 PM12/26/10
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We got Jesse Ventura's conspiracy theories startin on the TruTV channel
right now.Doggy don't care bout no conspiracy theories, she is sound
asleep on her couch right now.
cuhulin, the conspiracy theory

Sid9

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Dec 26, 2010, 12:10:41 PM12/26/10
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"Werner" <whet...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:d851befd-dcb8-4ac5...@y23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
.
.
Radio and TV licensees used to be required to provide public service
programming.
That's dead...all we get is infomercials and right wing propaganda.
AM radio has become a total wasteland

NPR is the only place that is broadcasting public service programming.

D. Peter Maus

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Dec 26, 2010, 12:18:02 PM12/26/10
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On 12/26/10 08:56 , First Post wrote:

>> The ultra right wing Koch Family Foundation is an underwriter of NPR
>> programming (ever hear an all-classical NPR station in the South?).


Actually, yes.


cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 26, 2010, 12:31:28 PM12/26/10
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http://www.devilfinder.com
National Public Radio Classical programs in Mississippi

South enough? South is always Best.
cuhulin, the Southron

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 2:50:59 PM12/26/10
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Hardly "liberal" media outlets. I'm thinking of KERA type stations.

RHF

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Dec 26, 2010, 2:58:56 PM12/26/10
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On Dec 26, 7:41 am, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Dec 26, 10:19 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 12/25/2010 10:14 PM, Werner wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 25, 8:05 pm, "( ` .   Craig  Chilton   . )<http://
> > >www.LayoffRemedy.com>"<x...@p.com>  wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:38:11 -0800 (PST),
>
> > >> N? ?baMa?<obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >>>        Petition to Defund National Propaganda Radio - NPR
>
> > >>       There's further validation of the term, "RIGHTARD."
>
> > >>      And:  NPR = National PUBLIC Radio, dimwit.  One of the
> > >> FINEST and most educational channels on all of television.
>
> > >>      (So it's no wonder YOU don't appreciate it.)
> > >> ...
>
> > > But it should not be funded by tax money. That, you see, is the issue.
> > > Also, duncewhit, there is no PUBLIC.
> > >    http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/Myth.shtml
>
> > We already had that argument during the Enlightenment; the Social
> > Contract, which is the basis of democratic republican government,
> > ensued. It says we surrender some personal liberty to advance the public
> > good. The Founders were heavily into Locke and Rousseau, I suggest you
> > follow suit, so you don't come off like a moron around here. Some of us
> > pay attention, Mr. "Libertarian".
>
- The Social Contract is based on the notion of allegiance,
- that is to say 'voluntary' acceptance, not imposition.
- It should become increasingly clear that people are
- opting out of impositions and resisting obedience.
- The Social Contract is based on individuals not a
- collective.
- There is no collective, only individuals.
-
- You can call those who disagree with you morons,
- but Does that not misses the point political equality
- in a big way?

*CORRECT*

There is NO 'Collective' in American "Individual" Freedoms [.]
-except-one- "All Men {and Women} Are Created Equal"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal
-meaning- They {as Individuals} Are Endowed By
Their Creator With Certain Unalienable {Individual}
Rights, That Among These {Individual Rights} Are
Life, Liberty And The Pursuit of Happiness.
* LIFE : The Individual's Life -not-a- Collective Life
* LIBERTY : The Individual's Liberty -not-a- Collective Liberty
* THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS :
The Individual's Pursuit of Happiness {Choice & Freedom}
-not-a- Collective Happiness {Dictated by Others}

There Is The American Individual Freedom -of- "Free"
Association -wrt- 'Freedom-of-Association' also known
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association
as 'Freedom-of-Assembly' by Individuals For Their
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly
Mutual Benefit as embodied in the First Amendment
to the United States Constitution. {Bill of Rights}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

CLEARLY : There Is NO Freedom To Forced {Coerced}
"Collectives" Imposed By 'The State' Upon The-People [.]
That Would Be A Clear Violation Of Individual Human
Rights Guaranteed By The US Constitution [.]

=BUTT2= 'Special-Dave' Thinking With His
"Facts Have A Liberal Bias" Hat-On :
* The US Declaration of Independence has to be
'interpreted' with a modern day Liberal-Socialist-Bias.
* The US Constitution has to be 'interpreted' with
a modern day Liberal-Socialist-Bias.
* The US Bill of Rights has to be 'interpreted' with
a modern day Liberal-Socialist-Bias.

as they say in court : your honor it goes to bias... ~ RHF
.
.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 4:33:13 PM12/26/10
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On 12/26/2010 11:58 AM, RHF wrote:

>>
> - The Social Contract is based on the notion of allegiance,
> - that is to say 'voluntary' acceptance, not imposition.

>


> *CORRECT*
>
> There is NO 'Collective' in American "Individual" Freedoms [.]
> -except-one- "All Men {and Women} Are Created Equal"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal
> -meaning- They {as Individuals} Are Endowed By

All for one and one for all?

A government of the persons, for the persons?

Antisocial by Anthrax

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 26, 2010, 4:31:13 PM12/26/10
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I received a snail mail this afternoon from that married Irish woman
wayyyyyyy over yonder (Bognor Regis,England) across the big pond,
thanking me for that snail mail Christmas card I sent her over a week
ago.I haven't heard from herself in a million years.

Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:04am (CST-2) What is she doing awoke at that
time of night? I realize they are six hours ahead of my time zone.
cuhulin

John Smith

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Dec 26, 2010, 4:51:17 PM12/26/10
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Werner

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Dec 26, 2010, 4:52:42 PM12/26/10
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You begin to get the idea.

Werner

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Dec 26, 2010, 5:02:32 PM12/26/10
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The as long as anyone is forced to pay for NPR freedom eludes us.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 5:59:51 PM12/26/10
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On 12/26/2010 01:51 PM, John Smith wrote...

TV will turn you into an idiot. If you need to show a movie to make a
point your message needs some distillation.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 6:01:02 PM12/26/10
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I'm willing to go down that road.

John Smith

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Dec 26, 2010, 5:25:52 PM12/26/10
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Yeah, but fools like you, which have difficulty with
reading/comprehension, it helps ...

Regards,
JS

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 26, 2010, 6:29:36 PM12/26/10
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Snow flurries in Mississippi. Did you see it? Julie Straw at 5:00 PM
WLBT 3 tee vee news said.

Yep, doggy and I saw it this morning.
I HATE snow! Doggy doesn't seem to like it either.Smart doggy, she is.
cuhulin

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 7:37:55 PM12/26/10
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On 12/26/2010 02:02 PM, Werner wrote:
> On Dec 26, 12:07 pm, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>> On 12/26/201
>> libertarian stance, that has never been truer.
>>
>> "Nobody's free until everybody's free"
>
>
> The as long as anyone is forced to pay for NPR freedom eludes us.

Credible information is essential to a healthy democratic republic.
Misinformed voters are dangerous. Triumph of the will and all that.

Do you seriously think ad supported media will fairly discuss campaign
finance reform, when they are the ones who sell all the expensive air time?

Do you think a magazine whose #1 advertiser is a car company is going
to push mass transit?

Get real. The point of "public broadcasting" is freedom from outside
commercial interests. They can tell the story straight up the middle and
let the pieces fall where they may. NPR is the only media NOT controlled
by business interests; that's why the oligarchs and their thugs hate NPR.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 26, 2010, 6:33:12 PM12/26/10
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Wait a minute, I had meant to say I received an email this afternoon
from that married Irish woman.
See how she gets me confused?
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 26, 2010, 6:37:32 PM12/26/10
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U.S.Coast Guard is a Department (something like that) of the U.S.Navy,
not part of U.S.Army.
GO ARMY!
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 26, 2010, 7:06:54 PM12/26/10
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Legendary Meterologist Nash Roberts Passes Away
http://www.GulfCoastNews.com

Rest in Peace, Nash Roberts.
cuhulin

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 8:19:23 PM12/26/10
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It's DHS now.

Tim Crowley

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Dec 26, 2010, 8:36:23 PM12/26/10
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You will never be free. You will always be a slave to your hate and
ignorance.

racists are stupid.

RHF

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Dec 26, 2010, 8:37:10 PM12/26/10
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On Dec 26, 1:33 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 12/26/2010 11:58 AM, RHF wrote:
>
>
>
> > - The Social Contract is based on the notion of allegiance,
> > - that is to say 'voluntary' acceptance, not imposition.
>
> > *CORRECT*
>
> > There is NO 'Collective' in American "Individual" Freedoms [.]
> > -except-one- "All Men {and Women} Are Created Equal"
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal
> > -meaning- They {as Individuals} Are Endowed By

The-Collective-R-Us :
"Interpreting" US Declaration of Independence &
US Constitution & US Bill of Rights
With a Modern Day Liberal-Socialist-Bias
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ebe4a7c49c70c97d

- dave -wrote- {changed the subject line to read}
No "Us" in We the People -- and a video proving it!
wrong,,, Wrong... WRONG ! ! ! 'Special-Dave'
There is an 'Us' in We The People
-and- That 'Us' Is The Average Hardworking Tax
Paying American US Citizens -not- Your Liberal Elite
made-up of the select 'chosen' few acting as the
deciders for and over-lords of the masses.

United We Stand ! : Your Average Hardworking Tax
Paying American US Citizens : Voting and Just
Saying 'NO' To The Liberal Elitists.

Peace Through Strength : The Voice of Average
Hardworking Tax Paying American US Citizens :
Just Saying 'NO' To The Liberal Elitists By Voting.

- dave -wrote-
- All for one and one for all?

'Special-Dave' just proves that you qualify
to be on of the 'French Three Musketeers.
.
- dave -wrote-
- A government of the persons, for the persons?

'Special-Dave' anyone point out to you that
just like The "Man"s : Man, HuMan, Mankind, ChairMan...

PerSon is one of the "Son"s and Male-Gender-Specific too.
.
- dave -wrote-
- Antisocial by Anthrax

OK 'Special-Dave' that can be taken two ways . . .

1 - You were a Victim of an Anthrax Attack
{Exposed to Anthrax} and the Experience
has made You Anti-Social.
if-so-:-sorry-to-hear-that-happened-to-you-

2 - You are thinking about an
{contemplating/planning}
Anti-Social Event Using Anthrax
-i-don't-think-so--but--some-might-see-it-that-way-

Be more careful what you write 'Special-Dave'
"Anti-Social" and "Anthrax"
are really a bad-word-combo.
.
.
Put an End to the Liberal-Elite's Control of CPB
& PBS & NPR -by- Open Public Elections
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a264e2b182ab2769
.
The Big Liberal-Lie and Democrat-Distortion
Tax Payers and Tax Money Does NOT Fund
and Support CPB & PBS & NPR
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ed5c8eaa88bda944
.
.

Tim Crowley

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On Dec 25, 10:07 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:

> On Dec 25, 4:29 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > On 12/25/2010 11:29 AM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
>
> > in addition to the services of our military and State Department. We are
> > being bled dry by foreign predator corporations and you're worried about
> > a few million dollars for Click and Clack and Will Shorts?
>
> > You are a tool of the Koch brothers and the USA Chamber of Commerce
> > (which despite its name specializes in lobbying foreign companies). They
> > can't allow a credible news source to interfere with their high-dollae
> > anarchy.
>
> Both the military and State Department are enumerated powers. Not so
> with funding NPR.
>
> If we cut all unconstitutional spending we would have a very much
> smaller budget.

hint: scream in impotent pain some more. It's so funny when racist
scum do that.

Tim Crowley

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Dec 26, 2010, 8:40:14 PM12/26/10
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hint: you have no say in the matter, racist.

dave

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Dec 26, 2010, 9:49:27 PM12/26/10
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On 12/26/2010 05:37 PM, RHF wrote:
-
>
> Be more careful what you write 'Special-Dave'
> "Anti-Social" and "Anthrax"
> are really a bad-word-combo.
> .
> .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_%28song%29

RHF

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Dec 26, 2010, 8:53:54 PM12/26/10
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On Dec 26, 6:57 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 12/25/2010 10:04 PM, Werner wrote:
>
> > On Dec 25, 12:31 pm, Tim Crowley<timmyturm...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On Dec 24, 2:15 pm, Ron<roneal1...@att.net>  wrote:

- Roy Fisk and Jerry are both tools of right wing
- hate radio, which in turn is a fully owned subsidiary
- of the Military Congressional Industrial Complex.
- As long as they live, you slowly die.

'Special-Dave' speaking of "Complexes" : How Is Yours ?
-cause- Sometimes 'Special-Dave' :
You Just Out "DaviD" Your-Selves.
.
- Eat thee rich.

'Special-Dave' doesn't my daily one hour of NPR's
The Morning Edition and and PBS NewsHour
count for something ? ? ?
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning-edition/
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/
.
'So 'Special-Dave' you are a practicing "Cannibal"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism
-and- Here I only thought you only claimed to be a
Licensed "Cannabis" {Medical Marijuana} Smoker . . .
.
'Special-Dave' how soon after you started Smoking
"Cannabis" -aka- Medical Marijuana . . .
Did You Start Thinking About Cannibalism . . . {Eat-the-Rich}
Then When Did You Start Practicing Cannibalism
. . . {Eating-the-Rich}
.
'Special-Dave' You Give New Meaning To The
Medical Marijuana Munchies -wrt- Eat-the-Rich !
http://www.chuckhodi.net/charles_manson_happy.jpg
It is starting to make you act/talk/write and look
more than a little -g-o-o-f-y-
http://images.costumesgalore.net/goofy04-186.jpg


.
.
Put an End to the Liberal-Elite's Control of CPB
& PBS & NPR -by- Open Public Elections
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a264e2b182ab2769
.
The Big Liberal-Lie and Democrat-Distortion Tax Payers
and Tax Money Does NOT Fund and Support CPB &
PBS & NPR
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ed5c8eaa88bda944
.

Just Say 'NO' To The Separation of Government and
Liberal-Socialist-Political-Ideas plus the Progressive
Agenda Actions by CPB & PBS & NPR "Propaganda" :
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for CPB !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for PBS !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for NPR !
SAY 'NO' TO THE THEOLOGY OF LIBERALISM !
SAY 'NO' TO THE RELIGION OF PROGRESSIVISM !
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 26, 2010, 8:56:05 PM12/26/10
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The best (effed up) government money can buy.
wearethegovernmentandweareheretohelpyou.
cuhulin

DogDiesel

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Dec 26, 2010, 9:06:12 PM12/26/10
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"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
news:4d17a7ac$0$5522$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...

> On 12/26/2010 11:58 AM, RHF wrote:
>
There is no Social Contract. The Constitution abides no contracts. It is
the ultimate law of the land.

There is no collective. and never will be.

And no Social contract exists.


dave

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Dec 27, 2010, 9:18:20 AM12/27/10
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Abraham Vereide, an immigrant preacher who in 1935 organized a small
group of businessmen sympathetic to European fascism, fusing the far
right with his own polite but authoritarian faith. From that core,
Vereide built an international network of fundamentalists who spoke the
language of establishment power, a "family" that thrives to this day. In
public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private, they preach a gospel of
"biblical capitalism," military might, and American empire. Citing
Hitler, Lenin, and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current
leader, Doug Coe, declares, "We work with power where we can, build new
power where we can't."

http://www.harpercollins.com/books/The-Family-Jeff-Sharlet/?isbn=9780060559793

Tracey12

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Dec 27, 2010, 10:02:28 AM12/27/10
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> http://www.harpercollins.com/books/The-Family-Jeff-Sharlet/?isbn=9780...

Amen to that! I am all for using American Liberty to spread the Good
News that Jesus is Lord of Lord and King of Kings.
If you've read our founders, you know that they said God was in the
midst of their discussions on creating the US Constitution and Bill of
Rights. In fact, the strongly believed that America was created by
God.

WHO IS IN THE HOUSE? JC! WHO IS IN THE HOUSE? JC!

VID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxC-Otl6fHM&feature=related

dave

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Dec 27, 2010, 11:35:57 AM12/27/10
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On 12/27/2010 07:02 AM, Tracey12 wrote:

>
> Amen to that! I am all for using American Liberty to spread the Good
> News that Jesus is Lord of Lord and King of Kings.
> If you've read our founders, you know that they said God was in the
> midst of their discussions on creating the US Constitution and Bill of
> Rights. In fact, the strongly believed that America was created by
> God.
>
> WHO IS IN THE HOUSE? JC! WHO IS IN THE HOUSE? JC!
>

And this gibberish is the "speaking in tongues" I've heard about?

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 27, 2010, 2:11:26 PM12/27/10
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http://www.devilfinder.com
J.G.Wentworth TV Opera Commercials

I have a structured settlement and I need cash nowwwww,,,,,, 877 CASH
NOWWWWWWWW,,,,,,
It's your money, use it when you want to!

I want to buy a Spyker C8 Spyder (I can dream, can't I?) car.I would
even settle for an old Daffodil car.That would look real Good sitting in
my driveway when my Daffodil flowers pop up every year.
http://www.ritzsite.nl/index.htm
cuhulin, the car

RHF

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Dec 27, 2010, 3:56:47 PM12/27/10
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> http://www.harpercollins.com/books/The-Family-Jeff-Sharlet/?isbn=9780...

'Special-Dave' Some see the so-called "Christian
Fascist Power Base in Washington D.C." as : Obama,
Pelsoi and Reid -aka- The Liberal-Democrat Elites . . .

'Special-Dave' Some see the so-called "Christian
Fascist Power Base in Washington D.C." as : Boehner,
Cantor, McCarthy, McConnell, Kyl, Alexander, Thune,
-aka- The Moderate-Republicans Elites . . .

While Others Will Simple See All The Above As The
"Political Elites" in Washington, DC . . .
-cause- It Ain't the Political "Isms" that is the Problem
It Is The "Elitism" [Elite-Ism] That Is The Problem [.]
.
.
We-'The-People'-R-Us :
United We Stand ! & Peace Through Strength !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6678426f4065acd5
.
'Special-Dave' You Give New Meaning To , , ,
The Medical Marijuana 'Munchies'
-wrt- Eat-the-Rich ! {Humor}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/420651566fd4c09b


.
Put an End to the Liberal-Elite's Control of CPB
& PBS & NPR -by- Open Public Elections
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a264e2b182ab2769
.
The Big Liberal-Lie and Democrat-Distortion Tax Payers
and Tax Money Does NOT Fund and Support CPB &
PBS & NPR
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ed5c8eaa88bda944
.
Just Say 'NO' To The Separation of Government and
Liberal-Socialist-Political-Ideas plus the Progressive
Agenda Actions by CPB & PBS & NPR "Propaganda" :
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for CPB !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for PBS !
* Just Say 'NO' To Tax Moneys, Deductibles,
Exemptions, Write-Offs and Off-Sets for NPR !
SAY 'NO' TO THE THEOLOGY OF LIBERALISM !
SAY 'NO' TO THE RELIGION OF PROGRESSIVISM !
.

Three (3) Phases of Liberal Decay : Ending in Liberal-Fascism
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/84f4b03c6765f814
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/18424e411a0b81c1
.
"Liberal-Fascism" Something the Liberals and
Progressives Can NOT Explain Away©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/43606fc5821a6cec
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d2dba27fe8797a29
.
"Liberal-Fascism" -by- Jonah Goldberg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism
http://www.nationalreview.com/liberal-fascism
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/30/books/review/Oshinsky-t.html
.
.

RHF

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Dec 27, 2010, 4:03:28 PM12/27/10
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On Dec 27, 8:35 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 12/27/2010 07:02 AM, Tracey12 wrote:
>
>
>
> > Amen to that!  I am all for using American Liberty to spread the Good
> > News that Jesus is Lord of Lord and King of Kings.
> > If you've read our founders, you know that they said God was in the
> > midst of their discussions on creating the US Constitution and Bill of
> > Rights.  In fact, the strongly believed that America was created by
> > God.

- - WHO IS IN THE HOUSE?  JC!  
- - WHO IS IN THE HOUSE?  JC!

- And this gibberish is the "speaking in tongues" I've heard about?

No 'Special-Dave' You Heard 'Gibberish'
-wrt- 'Special-Dave' "giGO" = gibberish in... Gibberish Out !*
* Mostly 'Gibberish Out' ! ;;-}}

-while- Person-of-Faith "Believers" Hear The-Word-of-God :
Spoken-In-Tongues - blessed are they - amen ~ RHF
.
.

dave

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Dec 27, 2010, 5:30:42 PM12/27/10
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On 12/27/2010 12:56 PM, RHF wrote:

>
> 'Special-Dave' Some see the so-called "Christian
> Fascist Power Base in Washington D.C." as : Boehner,
> Cantor, McCarthy, McConnell, Kyl, Alexander, Thune,
> -aka- The Moderate-Republicans Elites . . .
>
> While Others Will Simple See All The Above As The
> "Political Elites" in Washington, DC . . .
> -cause- It Ain't the Political "Isms" that is the Problem
> It Is The "Elitism" [Elite-Ism] That Is The Problem [.]
> .

You keep drifting farther out to sea...

Nobody more "elite" than Calvinists who admire Hitler.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Dec 27, 2010, 4:31:33 PM12/27/10
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Crocodile Dundee II is on the AMC channel.Those big knives are illegal
in Australia.
http://www.devilfinder.com
Crocodile Dundee Music Midi
cuhulin

RHF

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Dec 27, 2010, 8:34:39 PM12/27/10
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On Dec 27, 2:30 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 12/27/2010 12:56 PM, RHF wrote:
>
>
>
> > 'Special-Dave' Some see the so-called "Christian
> > Fascist Power Base in Washington D.C." as : Boehner,
> > Cantor, McCarthy, McConnell, Kyl, Alexander, Thune,
> > -aka- The Moderate-Republicans Elites . . .
>
> > While Others Will Simple See All The Above As The
> > "Political Elites" in Washington, DC . . .
> > -cause- It Ain't the Political "Isms" that is the Problem
> > It Is The "Elitism" [Elite-Ism] That Is The Problem [.]
> >   .

- You keep drifting farther out to sea...
-
- Nobody more "elite" than Calvinists who admire Hitler.

'Special-Dave' is you middle-name "Calvin"
.
Oppressed-R-Us :
The 'Liberal-Fascist' [Elitist] Power Base in Washington D.C.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/88efd3c0e005e5e3
.


'Special-Dave' : "giGO" = gibberish in... Gibberish Out !

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/59f30c982d52610f


.
'Special-Dave' You Give New Meaning To , , ,
The Medical Marijuana 'Munchies'
-wrt- Eat-the-Rich ! {Humor}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/420651566fd4c09b
.

.

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