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julia joy

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May 27, 2011, 7:33:28 AM5/27/11
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Eclipse LED digital ballasts are more efficient, quieter, cooler, and
softer on the bulb. Digital ballasts do not have any of the usual
transformers, capacitors or igniters; instead these ballasts have
electronic circuitry to do the same job, more efficiently. What might
take a standard coil/magnetic ballast 680-700 watts to fire a standard
600 watt bulb, may only take a digital ballast only 600-620 watts to
fire the same bulb to the same brightness.


http://www.eclipseledcompany.com/Digital_Ballasts.html

John Smith

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May 27, 2011, 1:53:52 PM5/27/11
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WOW? Not you, but what idiot decided to use "digital" to describe an
electronic ballast.

Digital computers deal with numbers. Digital systems deal with binary
numbers (perhaps, soon "trinary" numbers as the 3-state electronics
become available.)

There is nothing digital about fluorescent ballasts, except the name.

Regards,
JS

Brenda Ann

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May 27, 2011, 4:55:37 PM5/27/11
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"John Smith" wrote in message news:iroofg$vi4$6...@dont-email.me...

Regards,
JS


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That's OK... the shill isn't talking about fluorescent ballasts, they're
talking about HID ballasts (mercury vapor, high pressure sodium, metal
halide). Digital technology could be used for these by using "steppers" to
ramp the voltage up and down based upon current detection.


John Smith

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May 27, 2011, 5:20:54 PM5/27/11
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On 5/27/2011 1:55 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:

> ...


> That's OK... the shill isn't talking about fluorescent ballasts, they're
> talking about HID ballasts (mercury vapor, high pressure sodium, metal
> halide). Digital technology could be used for these by using "steppers"
> to ramp the voltage up and down based upon current detection.
>
>

While you are technically correct, about a LED being mentioned in the
original post, the difference between sodium/mercury-vapor and
fluorescent BALLAST is minimal, to an engineer.

Voltage step-up/step-down, or even wave shape has nothing to do with
"digital."

While not absolutely necessary, a digital wave shape will be of a square
wave, however ramp and even sine can be handled with processing. And, a
simple flip-flop circuit can generate a square wave, process this though
a current regulator, then a voltage regulator and you, basically, have
your "digital ballast", but it has nothing to do with anything truly
"digital."

The name "digital" is more of a marketing scam than anything else it
its' use in describing the ballast, kinda like "solid state" (a pencil
is solid state!), "state of the art" ("new" is simply relative),
"space-age" (products developed after successful space flight), etc.

1) of or relating to the fingers or toes <digital dexterity>

2) done with a finger <a digital rectal examination>

3) of, relating to, or using calculation by numerical methods or by
discrete units

4) of, relating to, or being data in the form of especially binary
digits <digital images> <a digital readout>; especially : of, relating
to, or employing digital communications signals <a digital broadcast> —
compare analog 2

5) providing a readout in numerical digits <a digital voltmeter>

6) relating to an audio recording method in which sound waves are
represented digitally (as on magnetic tape) so that in the recording wow
and flutter are eliminated and background noise is reduced

7) electronic <digital devices>; also : characterized by electronic and
especially computerized technology <the digital age>

... by Merriam-Webster.

And, my hand is digital!!! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

RHF

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May 27, 2011, 5:48:04 PM5/27/11
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- And, my hand is digital!!!  ROFLOL

To Five Place Accuracy ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
>
> Regards,
> JS

RHF

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May 27, 2011, 6:21:57 PM5/27/11
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Saw some 'new' GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs
at Lowes with an Outer Glass Cover
-maybe-
The Best of Both Worlds :o) ~ RHF
http://www.elightbulbs.com/lighting-blog/GE-Reveals-New-Reveal-Compact-Fluorescent-Light-Bulb

New GE Reveal 'Hybrid' CFL Bulbs
in Traditional Glass A19 Shape
http://www.thelightingresource.net/ge-introduces-reveal-cfl-bulb-offers-consumers-familiar-incandescent-shape-energysaving-benefits/

Should you break the 'inner' CFL Tube
the 'Outer' Glass Envelop saves on the
Clean-Up Problems -great-idea-!-
.
-better-yet-
http://pressroom.geconsumerproducts.com/pr/ge/artwork/9/9/6/7/3/199673/REVEAL_HYBRID_A-c.jpg
Three Bulbs in One: GE’s Hybrid Halogen-CFL
with Incandescent Shape Arrives in April 2011
http://pressroom.geconsumerproducts.com/pr/ge/three-bulbs-in-one-ge-s-hybrid-199673.aspx
-and-
http://www.genewscenter.com/Press-Releases/Three-Bulbs-in-One-GE-s-Hybrid-Halogen-CFL-with-Incandescent-Shape-Arrives-in-April-2f9c.aspx
-question-
GE Hybrid CFL vs. ELS LED Lamp- Who's Better?
http://www.elsledtech.com/admarketing/april2011newsletter.html
.
~ RHF
.
.

bpnjensen

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May 27, 2011, 6:27:37 PM5/27/11
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> The Best of Both Worlds :o) ~ RHFhttp://www.elightbulbs.com/lighting-blog/GE-Reveals-New-Reveal-Compac...

>
> New GE Reveal 'Hybrid' CFL Bulbs
> in Traditional Glass A19 Shapehttp://www.thelightingresource.net/ge-introduces-reveal-cfl-bulb-offe...

>
> Should you break the 'inner' CFL Tube
> the 'Outer' Glass Envelop saves on the
> Clean-Up Problems -great-idea-!-
>  .
> -better-yet-http://pressroom.geconsumerproducts.com/pr/ge/artwork/9/9/6/7/3/19967...

> Three Bulbs in One: GE’s Hybrid Halogen-CFL
> with Incandescent Shape Arrives in April 2011http://pressroom.geconsumerproducts.com/pr/ge/three-bulbs-in-one-ge-s...
> -and-http://www.genewscenter.com/Press-Releases/Three-Bulbs-in-One-GE-s-Hy...
> -question-
> GE Hybrid CFL vs. ELS LED Lamp- Who's Better?http://www.elsledtech.com/admarketing/april2011newsletter.html
>  .
> ~ RHF
>  .
>  .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Is the outer shell glass, or something more durable, like a polymer?
With glass, if the inside gets broken, there's a pretty good chance
the outside cover would also be broken by the same trauma.

RHF

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May 27, 2011, 7:08:18 PM5/27/11
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It is Glass -but- not 'thin' Light Bulb Glass
It is Thicker and More Durable like the Glass
on a Halogen Bulb
.

dave

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May 27, 2011, 8:40:57 PM5/27/11
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Halogens have quartz envelopes don't they?

RHF

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May 28, 2011, 12:35:21 AM5/28/11
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Dave read the Links.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ccc90a344a0ff615

The 'process' seems to be that the Start-Phase
is a small Halogen Igniter placed in the center
of the larger CFL Spiral Tube [Empty Hollow] :
After the Instant-On Warm-Up the Second-Phase
CFL takes over for long-term Low Power Light
but Quality Light Output.

Most CFLs 'Fail' due to their Electronics :
Not the CFL Tube itself : This may be a way
to reduce these Failures and Improve the
over-all Service Life of CFLs.

interesting dual 'hybrid' technology ~ RHF
.
.
Globe 2-in-1 CFL Bulb and LED Night Light
Have a couple of these in-use
CFL when you need it 'Bright' and
LED Night-Lite when at night
http://www.lowes.com/pd_161953-53058-0061601_0__?
1-Each : Works Great in a Dark Hall/Passage
in the middle of the House
2-Each : Works great on an Up-Stairs Landing
at the Top of the Stairs

again... interesting dual 'hybrid' technology ~ RHF
.
.

John Smith

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May 28, 2011, 1:04:16 AM5/28/11
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I run UV sterilizers on all my aquariums, to kill organisms in the
water, they have quartz sleeves to keep the water from the UV lamp
(quartz has very high transmission efficiency to UV rays), inside the
housing.

Trust me, while the quartz does seem tougher than the glass bulb, they
break, in my opinion, too easily -- I have broken two over 5 years ...

Decades ago, in high school, I remember a physics instructor with a
special type of pyrex glass tube, he drove an eight penny nail into a
board with it -- it was a hollow tube and quite shocking to watch ...
the tube did not even chip.

I have often wondered why I have not seen this glass, more, in different
uses -- the only other time I have seen this glass was when working for
lawrence livermore labs -- glass viewing ports, where explosive
experiments were carried on behind them.

During the 1970s the coors beer bottles used to be able to withstand a
surprising amount of abuse without breaking, I don't know if they still
possess that quality or not ... often, when tossed out of a moving car
they would just bounce, skip and slide along a highway without
shattering/breaking.

Regards,
JS

Rob

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May 28, 2011, 1:40:41 AM5/28/11
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On Fri, 27 May 2011 15:21:57 -0700 (PDT), RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net>
wrote:

> Saw some 'new' GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs
> at Lowes with an Outer Glass Cover
> -maybe-
> The Best of Both Worlds :o) ~ RHF
> http://www.elightbulbs.com/lighting-blog/GE-Reveals-New-Reveal-Compact-Fluorescent-Light-Bulb


Our landlord had CFL bulbs installed a year ago in all apartments. They
lasted about 6 months before they dimmed too much or just stopped working.
CFL is a waste of consumer money.

RHF

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May 28, 2011, 3:55:00 AM5/28/11
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On May 27, 10:40 pm, Rob <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2011 15:21:57 -0700 (PDT), RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net>

> wrote:
>
> > Saw some 'new' GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs
> > at Lowes with an Outer Glass Cover
> > -maybe-
> > The Best of Both Worlds :o) ~ RHF
> >http://www.elightbulbs.com/lighting-blog/GE-Reveals-New-Reveal-Compac...
>
-  Our landlord had CFL bulbs installed a
- year ago in all apartments. They lasted
- about 6 months before they dimmed too
- much or just stopped working.
- CFL is a waste of consumer money.

Rob : Time Is Money {Labor Costs}

Six Months of 24/7 Operation is 4000+ Hours
The Average old 100W Incandescent Light Bulb
last ~1000 Hours -do-the-math-

One Trip Up-the-Ladder 1-Hours Labor
-or- Four Trips Up-the-Ladder 4-Hours Labor
To change all the Light Bulbs in an Apartment
every 6-Months. -count-the-labor-savings-

CFLs are 99 Cents at the local Market : 60W
& 75W & 100W CFL Bulbs for a 'Buck' :o)

The local Dollar-Tree Store has 3-Way 30-70-100
Watt old Incandescent Light Bulbs for $1 a 'Buck'.

The Kitchen's Mushroom* CFLs are 'On' 12-Hours
per Day and Last about a Year. There are 18
CFL's in 2-Arrays of 9-Each {2-Switched Circuits}
The Arrays are at 10-Feet and require a 9-Foot
Step-Ladder to get at them. It's 'nice' to have
to do that once-a-year.

* 30W Sun-Light 'Mushroom' CFL Bulb with 135W
Light Output
http://www.lightsofamerica.com/Products/2830S.aspx
=equals= 1/3 the Power Used and 1/3 more Light
Output -that's- Win! Win! :o) ~ RHF
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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May 28, 2011, 9:40:41 AM5/28/11
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It (''IT'') would/will get to where those High Price light bulbs are a
Commodity.Bulb Snatching/Bulb Snatchers would/will be back in Vogue
again.
Do you follow me?
cuhulin

John Smith

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May 28, 2011, 11:34:59 AM5/28/11
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Bulb snatchers? Really?

Gwad, they sound near as disgusting as body snatchers!

Regards,
JS

RHF

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May 28, 2011, 12:05:43 PM5/28/11
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On May 28, 8:34 am, John Smith <win.co...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/28/2011 6:40 AM, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > It (''IT'') would/will get to where those High Price light bulbs are a
> > Commodity.Bulb Snatching/Bulb Snatchers would/will be back in Vogue
> > again.
> > Do you follow me?
> > cuhulin

- Bulb snatchers?  Really?

Commonly referred to as TSA Agents
-please-don't-squeeze-the-bulbs-
.

John Smith

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May 28, 2011, 12:09:10 PM5/28/11
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And, then, there is the story about the "snatch snatchers!"

Just don't let 'em around your wife or daughters!

ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

dave

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May 28, 2011, 2:38:30 PM5/28/11
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cuh...@webtv.net

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You know how Tarzan got that yell he had? He was swinging through the
trees and he got his ''bulbs'' caught on a vine.
Sheet, I would yell too!
cuhulin

RHF

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May 28, 2011, 7:03:17 PM5/28/11
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Dave : Asked-&-Answered ~ RHF
.
-you-can-lead-the-dave-to-the-links...-
-but-you-can-not-force-the-dave-to-read-them-
.
-be-you-dave- -dave-you-be- -dave-on-!-
.
.

dave

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dave

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RHF

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Dave - I May Post Them : You* Are Not
Required To Read Them.
-to-scroll-or-not-to-scroll...-
It's Not A Question : It's An Action !
* Or Anyone Else

Dave - Whether Your Read Them or Not :
I Have Already Posted Them ! :o) ~ RHF
'i'-do-what-'i'-do-:-me-myself-and-'i'-
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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May 28, 2011, 8:35:21 PM5/28/11
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Bliss' No Right Clicking.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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May 28, 2011, 8:40:38 PM5/28/11
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How is Lindsay Lohan going to behave when she gets out of the klink in
four months?

We gots Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo on TCM right now.

In Billings, Sir, the main street is Minnesota Avenue ~ Robert Walker.
cuhulin

John Smith

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May 28, 2011, 10:54:33 PM5/28/11
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How come you suddenly have a bunch of homosexuals waiting for your next
post?

ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

cuh...@webtv.net

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May 28, 2011, 11:15:19 PM5/28/11
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I want to get that new fangled stem cell treatment to make my boobs grow
real BIG.I am not a homo though.

When I was at the Goodwill store this morning I told Pam to find me some
sexy looking wimmins clothes for me to wear in my house.She said if she
finds any, do I want her to sling them on my porch.I told her that would
be OK.
cuhulin

John Smith

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May 28, 2011, 11:47:11 PM5/28/11
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ROFLOL!

... but ...

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Regards,
JS

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cuh...@webtv.net

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May 29, 2011, 12:43:02 AM5/29/11
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There is another one that has been outlawed in America.It is called
Polypropylene breast implants.But it keeps on growing and growing and
growing,,,,

BIGGUNS! ~ Al Bundy http://www.bundyology.com
cuhulin

dave

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dave

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dave

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On 05/28/2011 09:37 PM, AzzMazta wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2011 19:35:21 -0500, cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> Bliss' No Right Clicking.
>> cuhulin
>
> I voted for one "conservative" Democrap once and it'll be the last Democrap
> I'll vote for.
>

RHF

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On May 28, 8:15 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:

- I want to get that new fangled stem cell
- treatment to make my boobs grow real BIG.

Some want to be In-the-Closet.

-some-want-to-be-'on-the-down-low'-

Cuhulin -it-appears...- You Want To Be
BIG-And-Out-Standing ! ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
.

RHF

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May 29, 2011, 9:24:40 AM5/29/11
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Dave -wrt- "Libertarian Socialist who votes Green"

YOU AIN'T ONE [LIBERTARIAN] AS YOUR POSTS
HERE 'RRS' HAVE PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN
.
* Dave : Just another typical example [Post]
of how you constantly prove your are NO
Libertarian of any Strip
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/904a046dc39ff178
-dave-more-intolerance- -dave-more--hate-
* Dave, Dave, Dave : Once Again You Prove
That You Are NO Libertarian of any Stripe
-but- an Intolerant Elitist* With Uber
Liberal-Fascist Tendencies to Rain Nuclear
Death on China and Innocent Chinese
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.liberalism/msg/ebdb61838b...
* Whoops! Once Again 'Special-Dave' Proves
He Is NO Libertarian of any Stripe...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/eb4b647df5e16654
* Dave the Hypocrisy of Calling Yourself a
"Libertarian" : Please Don't Give Real
'Libertarians' a Bad Name
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/442a559f6742f674
* Dave you are NO Libertarian of any Stripe
-but- an Intolerant Elitist with Inherited
Liberal-Fascist Tendencies.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7004807d2de289a8
.
Wishing You A Long Life 'Dave' !
-but- You Ain't No 'Libertarian' [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/361b3f844229ccb3
Dave Please Don't Give Real 'Libertarians'
a Bad Name by claiming to be one...
.
Dave Another Example [Post] of How You
Constantly Prove You Are NO Libertarian
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/904a046dc39ff178
.
Dave Once Again You Prove That You Are
NO Libertarian of any Stripe {Kind}
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/ebdb61838bf58144
.
.
Blessed by God {Allah} with Life and Progressive
by Nature through Living ~ RHF
[Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member :
Dosvedanya Tovarisch]
.
.

John Smith

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May 29, 2011, 10:57:07 AM5/29/11
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Probably just that embarrassing condition known as "man boobs."

In cuhulins' case, I don't think they were caused by marijuana use, but
then, who knows -- maybe he likes to smoking while sitting around in
"something sexy and comfortable!"

ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

cuh...@webtv.net

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May 29, 2011, 11:43:41 AM5/29/11
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Bliss' No Right Clicking website doesn't seem to be on the internet
anymore.I read it years ago.It was a website about computers.Including
the difference between cheap parts computers and high quality parts
computers.BIG Differences too.
cuhulin

John Smith

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May 29, 2011, 12:18:08 PM5/29/11
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The major differences I have found, you can have about a dozen cheaply
built computers for the same cost as one big expensive computer.

But then, I have a closet in the basement full of motherboards, towers,
desktops, video cards, LCD monitors, etc.

All picked up very cheaply at flea markets, yard sales, etc.

Just don't follow the advice of a salesman!

Regards,
JS

cuh...@webtv.net

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May 29, 2011, 1:19:09 PM5/29/11
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I think Bliss' No Right Clicking linked to the Computer Shopper
magazine/website.It back around 1999 or 2000 when I first read Bliss' No
Right Clicking.Years ago a guy at the Goowill store told me his wife
bought a new Dell (Dude, you are getting a Dell!) desktop computer.Four
months later the motherboard was leaking crap.I told him I think the
capacitors were leaking.

Dude, Don't get a Dell!!!
cuhulin

John Smith

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May 29, 2011, 1:28:06 PM5/29/11
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I am not into name brand computers. I like generic cases -- towers, but
have desktops.

Prefer NVIDIA video cards, SATA hard drives, 550W+ power supplies, etc.

DELL, HP, COMPAQ, etc. are all junk, ACER is OK, in laptops.

I am still waiting for a generic laptop case and components where you
can finally build a custom laptop!

Regards,
JS

cuh...@webtv.net

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May 29, 2011, 2:53:38 PM5/29/11
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Home built computers are better because they are not preloaded with a
bunch of useless sheet, you can have exactly what you want.
Check out,
http://www.mini-itx.com
if you want ideas how to build something Custom.
I want a hollow plastic doll that looks like Jayne Mansfield or Marilynn
Monroe, stuff it with computer parts for a computer.
cuhulin

BDK

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May 29, 2011, 6:17:30 PM5/29/11
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In article <irtvn6$btu$1...@dont-email.me>, win....@gmail.com says...

LOL, you have no idea how funny the above post is. As usual. You are
suddenly making more sense than you have been, at least in non-
birthtardic posts. What happened?

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

John Smith

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Would you dress her with the clothes your friend Pam gave you? :-)

Regards,
JS

cuh...@webtv.net

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If y'all cats don't care to read the links I post, that's your Loss.You
just keeps on being you with your head buried in the sand.And, You just
be Happy.

Landmark Case Could Stymie Legal System
http://www.rense.com
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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dave

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dave

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On 05/29/2011 03:17 PM, BDK wrote:
> In article<irtvn6$btu$1...@dont-email.me>, win....@gmail.com says...
>>

>>


>> I am still waiting for a generic laptop case and components where you
>> can finally build a custom laptop!
>>
>> Regards,
>> JS
>
> LOL, you have no idea how funny the above post is. As usual. You are
> suddenly making more sense than you have been, at least in non-
> birthtardic posts. What happened?
>

http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/itx-laptop/

RHF

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On May 30, 5:51 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

> On 05/29/2011 07:52 PM, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > How the Internet Really Began
> >http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=308321
> > cuhulin

Dave -wrt- Your New Subject-Line :
"Some idiots believe the internet"

Some Do... Some Don't... -so-what- Who's Next !

...and... As Your Post Proves {Affirms} :
Some Idiots Post To/On The Internet !

oops - what does that make me too ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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May 30, 2011, 10:24:21 AM5/30/11
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I likes that Underwood No.5 Typewriter computer featured at mini-itx.com
I have three old Typewriters which look just like that old Underwood
No.5 Typewriter.I orts to rig one of them up.
cuhulin, the Typewriter

cuh...@webtv.net

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JT, on his Super Talk Missy Sippy radio talk show was just now talking
to Dr.Russell Blaylock,MD.Dr.Russell Blacklock mentioned sugar made from
Orange peels.

I say it is Good stuff.

http://www.russellblaylockmd.com
http://www.blaylockreport.com
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Sugar+made+from+Orange+peels

Of course I realize some of y'all won't check it out, Ergo some of y'all
don't care nuttin bouts y'all's Health.

We gots Kelly's Heroes on the TCM channel right now.
All my burning bridges are falling behind me,,,,,,,,,,,
cuhulin

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