> ...
> Be its cigarette smoking, or co2 output, they both not politically correct,
> and therefore on the left it's far too much to hope and assume that an
> intelligent debate that puts the risk into reasonably intelligent terms once
> again shows the dishonesty of the left and socialists in this regards.
>
> Super Turtle
>
>
Yeah, I think many toxins are hidden within the "toxic cigarette smoke"
verbiage ... now it will have to make room for the radiation coming from
Japan which we are still breathing and which will still be being created
for sometime to come as the nuclear plant continues releasing tremendous
quantities of deadly toxins to drift over here, to the USA.
Regards,
JS
This is BS. This "scientist" does not even have the balls to use his
real name to stand behind his bogus assertion.
You fell for the action of a troll.
1) Take a thread that has morphed into something else. (This gives you a
subject)
2) Take a message from that thread and reply to it (this adds the the
'somebody wrote')
3) Delete all but a statement posted by someone else.
4) Add his own spin which is unrelated all of the above.
5) Post it to a bunch of groups unrelated to the original thread.
Super Turtle is probably not hroedrank and neither are the MIT Scientist.
If you look at he original thread, you'll see a lot of ignorant arguments.
I don't consider anything JS posts to be relevant.
I am afraid, I am left unimpressed with all of that ... others may
choose for themselves ... just to reference proper perspective.
Regards,
JS
You are generally unimpressed with anything that resembles sound
reasoning. Joe is right. You are, at your core, just an idiot troll.
I have never seen documented idiots and morons like you represent.
You constantly seem to have to state your opinions, revelations,
spiritually generated premonitions and visions, etc. And, the personal
attack is the most used weapon in your toolbox ...
Why you can't stand in a 3rd party mode and look at yourself and
recognize the insanity you elude in your text and fantasies is a wonder
to behold ... if a learned trait, or a genetic defect, who knows?
Regards,
JS
Dave,
-wrt- We have half a million years of climate data in Antarctic ice
and... The Earth's Gonna Do What The Earth's Gonna Do !
Critical 'Climate Change' Factor # 1 = The Sun
Major 'Climate Change' Factor # 2 = The Earth {Itself}
Minor 'Climate Change' Factor #............13 = Humanity {Us}
-oops- another inconvenient 'climate change' truth
OK - Dave so that would be 500K Years -versus- 1K
Years of Man's Industrial Age.
-oops- another inconvenient 'climate change' reality
What Do Those 'Other' 499K Years Show : Lots of
'Climate Change' and in-fact Greater 'Climate Change's
"Pre" Man's Industrial Age.
* Real Hot Spells {not just Warming; but "Hot"}
* Real Cold Spells {not just Cool; but "Ice Ages"}
and... All Without Man-Kind.
-oops- another inconvenient 'climate change' fact
That's Naturally Evolving as in a Living Planet :
'Climate Change' -yes-the-earth-is-a-living-planet-
-oops- another inconvenient 'climate change' reality
Dave even the Obama-Regime No Longer Calls the
Decade/Century Long-Term Changing Weather Pattern
"Global Warming" -a-la- Al Gore -but- Simple "Climate
Change".
-oops- another inconvenient 'climate change' truth
.
Question #1 : In the Next Century or two will "Climate
Change" make the Earth WARMER : So that Russia
and Canada the 'Tropics' with most of the Rest of the
World basically Too Hot! and un-live-able ?
+ Plus Rising Sea Levels due to Less Ice
-or-
Question #2 : In the Next Century or two will "Climate
Change" make the Earth COLDER : So that only the
Equatorial 'Tropics' are Liveable with most of the Rest
of the World basically a Frozen Waste and un-live-able ?
+ Plus Lowering Sea Levels due to More Ice
-result-
Either Way Man-Kind {Humanity} Must Adapt To Survive
-cause- The Earth's Gonna Do What The Earth's Gonna Do !
gonna-do gonna-do gonna... do-do ~ RHF
.
.
> What Do Those 'Other' 499K Years Show : Lots of
> 'Climate Change' and in-fact Greater 'Climate Change's
> "Pre" Man's Industrial Age.
> * Real Hot Spells {not just Warming; but "Hot"}
> * Real Cold Spells {not just Cool; but "Ice Ages"}
> and... All Without Man-Kind.
> -oops- another inconvenient 'climate change' fact
The PPM for CO2 has never been above 290 until we started pumping coal
smoke into the air. It's been higher in the distant past, but never this
high with humans around.
Where did you get that information at?
http://www.ff.org/centers/csspp/library/co2weekly/2005-08-18/dioxide.htm
The spreading of false data is not a good thing ...
Regards,
JS
Dave - Re-Read Your Own Source Evidence {Chart}
2~3 Peaks as High or Higher.
Dave is a Disciple of Al Gore the False Prophet of
Global Warming. -smoking-medical-marijuana-
Once to 297 PPM 300,000 years ago. Still nowhere near what we have today.
May 12, 2011
Report Stresses Urgency of Action on Climate
By LESLIE KAUFMAN
The nation’s scientific establishment issued a stark warning to the
American public on Thursday: Not only is global warming real, but the
effects are already becoming serious and the need has become “pressing”
for a strong national policy to limit emissions of heat-trapping gases.
The report, by the National Research Council, an arm of the National
Academy of Sciences, did not endorse any specific legislative approach,
but it did say that attaching some kind of price to emissions of carbon
dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, would ideally be an essential
component of any plan.
“The risks associated with doing business as usual are a much greater
concern than the risks associated with engaging in ambitious but
measured response efforts,” the report concludes. “This is because many
aspects of an ‘overly ambitious’ policy response could be reversed or
otherwise addressed, if needed, through subsequent policy change,
whereas adverse changes in the climate system are much more difficult
(indeed, on the time scale of our lifetimes, may be impossible) to ‘undo.’ ”
The report, “America’s Climate Choices,” was ordered by Congress several
years ago to offer “action-oriented advice” on how the nation should be
reacting to the potential consequences of climate change.
But the answer comes at a time when efforts to adopt a climate-change
policy have stalled in Washington, with many of the Republicans who
control the House expressing open skepticism about the science of
climate change. Other legislators, including some Democrats, worry that
any new law would translate into higher energy prices and hurt the economy.
Not only is the science behind the climate-change forecast solid, the
report found, but the risks to future generations from further inaction
are profound. Already, the report noted, sea level is rising in many
American towns and the average United States air temperature has
increased by two degrees in the last 50 years.
The report’s authors — an unusual combination of climate scientists,
businessmen and politicians — said they were very aware that the
political mood on climate change had changed significantly from when the
committee was formed in 2009. Because the report was also about policy
advice, the council named nonscientists, including Jim Geringer, a
conservative Republican and a former governor of Wyoming.
Albert Carnesale, the chairman of the panel and a chancellor emeritus of
the University of California, Los Angeles, said that he hoped the
panel’s diversity and that many came to the job without “prior bias”
would help sell it even to skeptical policy makers.
“It is an urgent problem to turn to, and what we’ve done differently is
to look at this as a risk management problem,” Dr. Carnesale said.
While no one knows the exact shape of the risks, Dr. Carnesale said, we
know that they are real enough to act on. And that they will be harder
to act on as time passes. “We don’t know exactly when the tsunami will
hit or how high it will be, but we know it is coming, and we should
prepare,” Dr. Carnesale said.
But Representative Joe L. Barton, Republican of Texas, who has been
leading the charge against further regulating carbon emissions, swiftly
dismissed the council’s findings in an interview Thursday. “I see
nothing substantive in this report that adds to the knowledge base
necessary to make an informed decision about what steps — if any —
should be taken to address climate change,” Mr. Barton said.
Although the report characterizes climate change as a problem that
urgently needs attention, it stops short of making highly specific
policy prescriptions, leaving that to lawmakers.
To many worried about climate change, that is a common flaw of such reports.
“This is the classic problem — the divide between scientific reality and
political courage,” said Paul W. Bledsoe, a senior adviser with the
Bipartisan Policy Center who has worked in Congress and with the White
House on these issues. “The scientific organizations are reluctant to
advocate detailed policy prescriptions, while political actors are
tentative about the scientific realities.”
The report outlined four areas that demanded immediate action by the
federal government.
For starters, it emphasized that reducing carbon emissions was critical
to keeping the United States from having to make dire choices in the
future. While stopping just short of recommending a carbon tax, the
committee did praise its efficacy.
“Analyses suggest that the best way to amplify and accelerate such
efforts, and to minimize overall costs (for any given national emissions
reduction target), is with a comprehensive, nationally uniform,
increasing price on” carbon emissions enough to “drive major investments
in energy efficiency and low-carbon technologies,” the report said.
It also called on the federal government to play a much more active role
in researching new technologies and in helping the nation adapt to the
changes in the natural world that are already inevitable. Even with a
reduction in carbon output, the report said, some climate change will
continue to occur.
It noted that while many of the nations’ cities and states are taking
steps toward mitigating carbon output and preparing for hotter, wetter
conditions, it suggested that the federal government could help
coordinate these activities while also encouraging more research and
development.
“The federal government,” the report said, “should immediately undertake
the development of a national adaptation strategy and build durable
institutions to implement that strategy and improve it over time.”
Finally, while this report was designed, in contrast to the United
Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, to be by Americans
for Americans, the authors noted that climate change was a global
problem and the nation had an obligation to remain engaged with the
international community on possible solutions.
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Al Gore smokes pot ? That is new to me .
How else could he get those stupid arse blank stares, smiles and grins
on his face. He looks absolutely loony -- I believe there is excellent
reason(s) for that ...
Regards,
JS
ROFLOL!
http://www.ff.org/centers/csspp/library/co2weekly/2005-08-18/dioxide.htm
We are at the lowest PPM of Co2 we have ever been at, a couple of
hundred PPM +/- is virtually insignificant!
Regards,
JS
I would assume that he does. Most boomers smoke pot, don't they?
I never touched the stuff.
Your understanding of science is amazing. Not.
50% +1 = Most
I got a good laugh off the chart. Smith, large mammals have only
flourished recently. You put up a chart for the Paleozoic an Mesozoic.
Tell me what was alive back then.
klinton did, but he didn't inhale ... that was the first time he told us
the truth.
ROFLOL
Regards,
JS
>>> 2~3 Peaks as High or Higher.
>>
>> Once to 297 PPM 300,000 years ago. Still nowhere near what we have today.
>
> ROFLOL!
>
> http://www.ff.org/centers/csspp/library/co2weekly/2005-08-18/dioxide.htm
>
> We are at the lowest PPM of Co2 we have ever been at, a couple of
> hundred PPM +/- is virtually insignificant!
>
> Regards,
> JS
You seem to want to think Co2 is a big thing. Only, in the complete
scheme of things, has Co2 never been so low. At twice the PPM it is not
going to kill us or mankind. Plants will flourish, since plants feed
all life, either directly, or by feeding the food sources which serve as
food sources to other species ... it is a good thing.
Your time frame is only going back hundreds of years, in our realistic
knowledge of it. Since the oldest civilization in existance (china), at
this time, has only been in existence for ~5,000 years, no meaningful
data can be had as to whether this is a normal cycle of the earth, or
not -- no sufficient records were kept until recent times.
But then, it simply doesn't matter as far as the carbon tax goes.
Paying taxes to the government has nothing to do with Co2 levels in the
atmosphere. Indeed, if the example serves as any sort of predictor, the
higher the taxes, the higher the Co2. ROFLOL
A real non-event ... we simply need to deal with the changes which the
future brings ... this has always been true, this will always be true ...
Get a grip! Ohhh, look over there, it is a terrorist under the rock ...
scream fool, SCREAM! :-)
Regards,
JS
Dave is a Disciple of Al Gore the False Prophet of
Global Warming. -smoking-medical-marijuana-
-hint- Dave : Someone who smokes so-called
Medical-Marijuana : An Admitted Hydro-Carbon
Polluter Has NO Credibility Taking About the
Topic of "Global Warming" {a disproven theory}
.
.
Even the Obama-Regime has moved on to the
Topic of simple Climate Change and tossed out
the Excessive Claims of the "Global Warming"
Hysteria Mongers.
.
.
Only When "AG" Is Getting His 'Rub-On' !
.
Even the Obama-Regime has moved on to the
Topic of simple 'Climate Change' and tossed out
the Excessive Claims of the "Global Warming"
Hysteria Mongers like The Fal$e Profit Al-of-Gore.
.
.
- I would assume that he does.
- Most boomers smoke pot, don't they?
Dave 'you' ASS+U+ME !
-wrong- -wrong- -wrong-
.
-wrt- Boomers :
Some where 3-out-of-4 have tried/used Alcohol
and still less than Half have tried/used 'Pot' [MJ]
-now-those-numbers-changes-for-gen-x-
.
Even the Obama-Regime has moved on to the
Topic of simple Climate Change and tossed out
the Excessive Claims of the "Global Warming"
Hysteria Mongers like the Fal$e Profit Al-of-Gore.
.
.
- - I would assume that he does.
- - Most boomers smoke pot, don't they?
- I never touched the stuff.
BpnJ - So You Always Used Gloves - rotfl ~ RHF
No But Dave is an Admitted Medical-Marijuana User
- - - - I would assume that he does.
- - - Most boomers smoke pot, don't they?
- - I never touched the stuff.
- 50% +1 = Most
Dave your basic 'math' is right
-but- your ASS+U+ME ! -is- wrong,,, Wrong... WRONG ! ! !
> You seem to want to think Co2 is a big thing. Only, in the complete
> scheme of things, has Co2 never been so low. At twice the PPM it is not
> going to kill us or mankind.
It may not 'kill us', but what effects may it have? If an increase on
CO2 causes a temperature rise that results in flooding major population
areas would that be a problem to be worried about?
Plants will flourish, since plants feed
> all life, either directly, or by feeding the food sources which serve as
> food sources to other species ... it is a good thing.
If a climate change reduces the ability to grow those plants (rice,
wheat, corn, etc.) that are a major food source, would that be a problem
to worry about?
If the climate changes so that major agricultural areas can no longer
produce the crops needed by civilization, would that be an issue to be
worried about?
>
> Your time frame is only going back hundreds of years, in our realistic
> knowledge of it. Since the oldest civilization in existance (china), at
> this time, has only been in existence for ~5,000 years, no meaningful
> data can be had as to whether this is a normal cycle of the earth, or
> not -- no sufficient records were kept until recent times.
>
>
There is also no evidence to say the civilization can prosper if there
is significant climate change.
So while you can say CO2 was much higher in the past, you choose to
ignore the possibility that higher CO2 levels may cause problems that
could be serious.
You should be able to find instances where folks thought adding small
amounts of chemicals to the air or water was thought to be insignificant
but later had to be dealt with at a major expense.
I'd rather err on the side of caution rather than have my head in the
sand and find out the implications were much more serious.
joe wrote:
OK, so let us say we err on the side of caution. Thing is, the
Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist plan with regards to all of this seems to
be taxing the crap out of us.
Spend, spend, spend and tax tax tax.
> OK, so let us say we err on the side of caution. Thing is, the
> Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist plan with regards to all of this seems to
> be taxing the crap out of us.
How convenient of you to overlook the fact that your REPUBLICAN governor
is personally taxing YOU (your pension). To add insult to injury, he is
giving your pension tax as a -gift- to BUSINESS.
Finally, don't overlook that your guv *lied*; he said the whole point
was to whittle down the deficit -- and not one nickel of your pension
tax is going against the deficit, it's ALL going towards Business.
Feel cheated? Feel lied to? Don't want your pension taxed? Then feel
free to sign the recall petition.
Error-ing on the side of caution is just another way to say you wish to
indulge your unfounded fears, you wish to force your personal opinions
on others. You would pay taxes based on rumors.
Read my lips, NO NEW TAXES! And, repeal the BS ones on the books now!
A flat tax or no tax at all ...
Regards,
JS
> Even the Obama-Regime has moved on to the
> Topic of simple 'Climate Change' and tossed out
> the Excessive Claims of the "Global Warming"
> Hysteria Mongers like the Fal$e Profit Al-of-Gore.
> .
> .
You are going to die early because of your politics.
> I'd rather err on the side of caution rather than have my head in the
> sand and find out the implications were much more serious.
That's the recommendation of the Academy as well.
Fuck your pension. The atmosphere is changing because of us.
- Fuck your pension.
Dave : First Do Unto Yourself : As You Would Do Unto Others !
- The atmosphere is changing because of us.
Dave,
Localized around Population Areas indeed it may be
-however- On A Global Scale There Is Real "Climate
Change" and Mankind Has Little To Do With That [.]
-and-that's-a-fact- -and-that's-a-fact- -and-that's-a-fact-
Critical 'Climate Change' Factor # 1 = The Sun
.
Major 'Climate Change' Factor # 2 = The Earth {Itself}
.
Minor 'Climate Change' Factor #............13 = Humanity {Us}
-oops- another inconvenient 'climate change' truth
.
and... The Earth's Gonna Do What The Earth's Gonna Do !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/810fd53dc8724c1b
-so-adapt-or-die- -so-adapt-or-die- -so-adapt-or-die-
Excessive Energy Taxes Won't Solve The Problem !
-obama-taxes- -obama-more-taxes- -obama-higher-taxes-
Phony Carbon Credits Won't Solve The Problem !
-global-warming-scam- -global-warming-scam-
Invest In American = Re-Build A Better America !
-say-'no'-to-3rd-world-energy-wealth-transfers-
=Adapt=Or=Die= =Adapt=Or=Die= =Adapt=Or=Die=
-not-tax-and-spend- -not-tax-and-spend- -not-tax-and-spend-
.
.
- That's the recommendation of the Academy as well.
? The Academy of What ? : ! Pseudo-Science !
Thinking of Pseudo-Science and the Global Warming Scam
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ba39a3698d0315ce
.
"ClimateGate" The Fraud Behind Global Warming
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/30a0228a43629c84
.
? What Excessive Energy Taxes ! {and Energy Caps}
-taxing-the-daily-living-of-average-american-families-
? What Carbon Credits ! {and Carbon Limits}
-controlling-the-daily-lives-of-america's-working-families-
Dave,
On A Global Scale There Is Real "Climate Change"
and Mankind Has Little To Do With That [.]
-and-that's-a-fact- -and-that's-a-fact- -and-that's-a-fact-
Critical 'Climate Change' Factor # 1 = The Sun
.
Major 'Climate Change' Factor # 2 = The Earth {Itself}
.
Minor 'Climate Change' Factor #............13 = Humanity {Us}
-oops- another inconvenient 'climate change' truth
.
and... The Earth's Gonna Do What The Earth's Gonna Do !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/810fd53dc8724c1b
-so-adapt-or-die- -so-adapt-or-die- -so-adapt-or-die-
Excessive Energy Taxes Won't Solve The Problem !
-obama-taxes- -obama-more-taxes- -obama-higher-taxes-
Phony Carbon Credits Won't Solve The Problem !
-global-warming-scam- -global-warming-scam-
Invest In American = Re-Build A Better America !
-say-'no'-to-3rd-world-energy-wealth-transfers-
=Adapt=Or=Die= =Adapt=Or=Die= =Adapt=Or=Die=
-not-tax-and-spend- -not-tax-and-spend- -not-tax-and-spend-
.
Say "NO" To A Global Carbon Credit Exchange
-and- Say "YES" to an American 1st CO2 Enrichment Tax
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/470ed6750b77c06d
-say-'no'-to-3rd-world-energy-wealth-transfers-
Invest In American = Re-Build A Better America !
.
Say "YES" to an American CO2 Enrichment Tax
{Re-Greening American & Investing in the USA}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/03fd866eb3599b1b
-say-'no'-to-3rd-world-energy-wealth-transfers-
Invest In American = Re-Build A Better America !
.
.
> some moronic twaddle
You will die in a forest fire when you get trapped under a huge pile of
extraneous punctuation.
Dave -wrote-
- "Boomers who went to 'nam tried pot
1st - Not All "Boomers" Went To Vietnam
2nd - Not All Vietnam Veteran Smoked 'Pot' in Vietnam
-again- Dave 'you' ASS+U+ME !
-making-you--wrong--wrong--wrong-
.
Dave -wrote-
- (hell my dad smoked pot over there)
Ah... That could explain a lot about you Dave.
.
It is a Tourist attraction now.That's A OK, spend that Money in Missy
Sippy.
cuhulin
- You are going to die early because of your politics.
.
-such-hate-dave-such-hate-dave-such-hate-
.
Dave : Just another typical example [Post]
of how you constantly prove your are NO
Libertarian of any Strip
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/904a046dc39ff178
-more-intolerance-&-hate- -more-intolerance-&-hate-
.
Dave : May you live very long. Well at least
long enough to Regret your Politics ;;-}} ~ RHF
-peace-&-love- -peace-&-love- -peace-&-love-
.
.
Dave -wrote-
I would assume that he does.
-note- He being Al Gore
OK - No Question About That Then . . .
Al Gore Smoked 'Pot' according to Dave an
Expert [Card Carrying] Medical-Marijuana
Smoker
-dave-knows-a-'pot-head'-when-he-sees-one-
Dave -wrote-
Most boomers smoke pot, don't they?
Oops Big Generalization !
-open-wide-dave-insert-foot-in-mouth-
.
Dave -wrote-
50% +1 = Most
Dave your Math is Right
-however- Your Ass+U+Me is
-wrong- -wrong- -wrong-
.
Dave -wrote-
"Boomers who went to 'nam tried pot
1st - Not All "Boomers" Went To Vietnam
2nd - Not All Vietnam Veteran Smoked 'Pot' in Vietnam
-again- Dave 'you' ASS+U+ME !
-making-you--wrong--wrong--wrong-
.
Dave -wrote-
(hell my dad smoked pot over there)
Ah... That could explain a lot about you Dave.
.
Dave -wrote-
The subject was VP Gore-a boomer who did
go to Vietnam and who inhaled
NAH - Dave the "ISSUE" was your Statement :
"Most boomers smoke pot, don't they?"
-answer-is-still-'no'-not-most-
-ok-:-many-may-be-
-ok-:-a-lot-yes-
=Not=OK=Most=As=In="No"=
.
.
.
It would be bad on Walter Cronkite for a Senator's son to be KIA.
Well... It Is/Was Here !
and Below Freezing Overnight.
~ RHF
.
- - Owl Gourdhead was in Vietnam about four
- - months, he worked a typewriter over there.
- - MOFO had one or two full time Guards
- - covering his sorry ass in Vietnam.
- - cuhulin
- It would be bad on Walter Cronkite for a
- Senator's son to be KIA.
More than likely the VC/NVA would have Targeted
Al Gore for Kidnapping a/o Assassination as
a High-Value Political Target {being a US
Senators Son} so the Guards were a Reasonable
and Necessary Idea - imho ~ RHF
.
VP Gore-a boomer who did go to Vietnam :
One of the Few Son's of the Elite Who Did
-give-al-gore-his-'props-for-that-
* Obama Did Not Serve
-note- Obama Did Not Registrar for the Draft
His Grandfather Registered for BHO in Hawaii
when BHO was already in California in College
* Bush-II play USAF[R] in Texas
* Cheney Did Not Serve and Dodge the Draft
as a Student
* Clinton Did Not Serve and Dodge the Draft
in England as a Student
* Gore Served USA in Vietnam
* Bush-I Served WWII
* Reagan played Army in Hollywood WWII
* Carter Served USN
* Ford Served WWII
* Nixon Served WWII
* LBJ Served WWII
* IKE Served WWI & WWII
* Truman Served WWI
* FDR Did Not Serve in WWI
.
.
- I see you're adding extra spaces.
- Does this lighten the extraneous punctuation?
Ah 'space' to G R O W :o)
.
I just now saw on WLBT 3 TV 12:00 PM news, commercial, May 21st and 22nd
Trail Of Honor, Jackson,Mississippi.Of course I Will Be There.
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Trail+Of+Honor+Jackson+Mississippi+May+2011
cuhulin
I was talking 'bout Jackson (Jackson, Jackson)
The same thing happened over here,about a month after 9/11 . People
started coming from everywhere - just to see what was left (the
ruins) . Some of them where carrying flowers . . .
? Not Afghan Poppies !
.
These are usually used to make bagels more edible . For real .
San Francisco,,,,,,
open them Golden Gates,,,,,,
Rice A Roni,,,, DING DING, the San Francisco treat,,,,, DING DING, saute
and simmer,,,,, for a taste that can't be beat,,,,,, DING DING,,,,,,,,
When I was in San Francisco in January 1964, I bought a soft cover book
of naked women at a store.Somebody in Vietnam stold my book.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=307782
Let The Revolution Begin!
cuhulin