Or, I could ask Jolene online.
cuhulin
- It's your choice: Obama's Death Panel,
- or Sarah's beneficent health care and
- conservative hospice.
- One is of Satan; the other is of God.
-
- No one can stand on the sidelines, because
- even inaction constitutes making a choice.
- Punce on the right one.
Obama-Cares© End-of-Life Counseling is really
Ending-Your-Life Intimidation of the Sick, Aged
and Infirmed by ObamaCrats© in White Coats :
Where Is The Humanity In That ?
WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
Balancing Your Obama-Care© Health Care
Budget by Denying Medical Treatment and
Services to America's Senior Citizens. ~ RHF
http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2009/07/dr-ezekiel-emanuel-cutting-costs.html
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Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Complete Lives System
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/obama-health-care-glenn-beck-ezekiel-emanuel-complete-lives-system-ages-15-to-40-get-most-substantial-chance-sunstein-focus-on-life-years-rather-than-lives/
* Principles for Allocation of Scarce Medical Interventions
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/PIIS0140673609601379.pdf
OK so "Why" are some calling Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel
America's 21st Century Doctor of Death ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Death
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
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10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/465b7063bc8c7da4
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Sarah Palin Speaks Out on the Obama-Care© "Death Panels"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090813/pl_politico/26078
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Not only is it Unlikely, I say it is practically Impossible!
Just imagine the Logistics that would be involved.
Can't Happen!, in my opinion.
cuhulin
You are right: they call it Socialist National Health Care to frighten
the uninformed into supporting big-money private insurance companies
in their decades-old rip off of the American people. They label it
socialism because they know that most people have little knowledge of
what socialism is, only that it's bad. So associating a national
healthcare program that employs private healthcare suppliers with the
dreaded socialism tricks the average working stiffs into opposing such
a program, even though they need it badly. It's a classic false
propaganda ploy: deceit by association.
Of course, the proposed public plan bears no resemblance to socialism;
it is merely a system of safely pooling the money to be used for
healthcare. The government will not be the owner of the clinics, the
hospitals, or the equipment. The doctors, technicians, and nurses
will not be working for the government. Healthcare will be
administered by private individuals just as always. The only
difference will be the party holding the pooled money and distributing
the funds as needed will be public officials and not insurance company
executives.
And there is the problem. The money shufflers in big business, the
insurance companies, want to continue having control over the billions
of dollars being set aside for healthcare. They skim off enormous
profits, not only in fees and expenses, but also in using that money
while its not needed for actual healthcare services. They can invest
that money, even gamble it all away if they get the urge, as that
monstrous insurance company AIG did recently. They can use the money
for lavish jaunts, generous salaries and bonuses, catered parties and
dinners, and any number of "business-related" adventures.
If the government takes the money under its wing until it's needed,
the insurance companies will have to look for other sources; those
well-paid executives might even be forced to go to work somewhere. So
they are willing to slip some of the money to anyone, any party who
can disrupt and destroy any chance of a public plan where the money
will be put under the government's care rather than left to the lust
of the private executives and money managers.
AzzPizz - 'uninformed' that's Name Calling : Not Facts
AzzPizz - Ah a Talking-Point straight from the
Nancy Pelosi Play-Book "big-money private
insurance companies" DEMONIZE the Insurance
Companies.
AzzPizz - 'average working stiffs' that's Name Calling : Not Facts
AzzPizz - Again the same Talking-Point straight
from the Nancy Pelosi Play-Book 'money shufflers
in big business, the insurance companies' keep-up
the Politics of Hate "Those People" {Class Warfare}
BIG CORPORATIONS THEY ARE EVIL - Yeah !
AzzPizz - "the party holding the pooled money and
distributing the funds as needed will be public officials"
OK so these would be the same US Federal Government
'Officials' who are Bankrupting Social Security, Medicare
and Medicaid . . . Talk About a Track Record of
Financial Responsibility : : : r o t f l - - - oaoa ) ) ) ~ RHF
AzzPizz - Again for the 3rd time that same Talking-
Point straight from the Nancy Pelosi Play-Book
'monstrous insurance company AIG'
demonize, Demonize. DEMONIZE !
AzzPizz - 'the money will be put under the
government's care' so that would be the 'care'
of the same US Federal Government who is
Bankrupting Social Security, Medicare and
Medicaid . . . Talk About a Track Record of
Financial Responsibility : : : r o t f l - - - oaoa ) ) ) ~ RHF
AzzPizz - 'left to the lust of the private executives
and money managers' that's Name Calling : Not Facts
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He was from the town I grew up in...
He had himself listed as 19...
There were 3 guys in the photo, from a distance,
looking like it was graduation.
How was I to know it was 8th grade......
meow
by the way...
Which one were you?
An Alternative to Obama-Care© The Patients’ Choice Act
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY1q0I5n0WA -
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/05/20/an_alternative_to_obamacare_96575.html
What Prez Obama Ain't Telling You About The
Patients’ Choice Act and the Right to Choose
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h2520ih.txt.pdf
Obama-Care© puts the US Federal Government
{Not the Patients and Doctors} in Control of your
Health Care
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8LIidYmw_I
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/51054302.html
The Patients’ Choice Act - HR-2520 & S-1099
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.1099:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_nUl2xmzIQ
prez obama americans have the right to
a 'choice' in health care ~ RHF
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On Aug 14, 12:42 am, "~ RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
- Oops - Reading the Obama-Care© Bills :
- Is It a Crime ? -cause-
- The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
- -and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
- Name Calling
- No - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
- ? The Obama-Care© Bills : Has Your Senators
- and Congressperson Read Them ?
- THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
- .
- Oops - Quoting Facts from the Obama-Care© Bills :
- Is It a Crime ? -cause-
- The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
- -and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
- Name Calling & No Facts
- Yeah - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
- ? The Obama-Care© Bills : Does Your Senators
- and Congressperson Know the Facts In Them ?
- THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
- .
- Oops - Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills :
- Is It a Crime ? -cause-
- The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
- -and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
- Name Calling when Asked Questions
- Once Again - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
- ? The Obama-Care© Bills : Can Your Senators and
- Congressperson Answer Questions About Them ?
- THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
- .
- .
This is utter BS. There are many people out there below the poverty
line who will simply not have the wherewithal to *purchase* anything
medical, and in some cases not even adequate food or housing. This is
just another plan by the politicians in BIG INSURANCE's back pocket
and their lackeys (i.e. you). Screw it.
No kidding - they've condemned people to suffering, misery and death
for decades. In fact, they did it me - when as a child I was covered
under my Dad's Blue Cross insurance, and I got some ongoing treatment
and tests for frequent severe headaches, at one point they cutoff
benefits for both treatment and underlying cause. I continued to
suffer, my Dad got poorer, and if I had had cancer or some other
serious problem, my possible death would have been on their hands too.
Palin, Grassley, and the rest of them are arrogant, lying bastards.
They're damn lucky they don't have to worry about going broke if they
get a migraine. Screw 'em.
Bruce Jensen
Cotton Patch Gold Mine in North Carolina, the oldest Gold mine in
America's history.
I once panned for Gold in Montana in 1956, I didn't find any Gold
though.
cuhulin
"BJ" - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64bb18fca8797de6
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BJ - “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” -versus-
Obama-Care© : Giving Americans The Right To 'Choose' !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/626026f0b6b74b73
Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama that
Americans have the Right to a 'Choice' in Health Care.
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prez obama americans have the right to
a 'tort reform' as part of health care ~ RHF
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It's all about the profit motive. Healthcare isn't so big of an issue
here in Canada; it's actually quite remarkable as to what is covered.
But if you get injured on the job trying to get Workmen's Compensation
(a type of insurance) for wages lost during the recovery time (assuming
you don't pay into short- or long-term disability)can be a real pain in
the ass. They are all a bunch of greedy bastiches and the insurance
companies could stand with undergoing a major overhaul. If anyone pays
into anything they should reap the benefits of what they have essential
bought and paid for with their money or the employer's money.