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D@LS

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Mar 12, 2011, 6:04:58 AM3/12/11
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Japanese NUKE plant explodes.
Turn on the Radio or tv.
ASUS is incapable of supporting there products - BEWARE of these people.

RHF

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Mar 12, 2011, 6:57:23 AM3/12/11
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.
NHK News : Explosion Heard at Quake-Hit Reactor
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_50.html
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_54.html
.
BBC-WS : Huge Blast at Japan Nuclear Plant
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219
.
VOA News : Japan Trying to Contain Potential
Nuclear Crisis Following Massive Earthquake
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Japan-Trying-to-Contain-Potential-Nuclear-Crisis-Following-Massive-Earthquake-117849669.html
.
Explosion at Japan Nuke Plant
as the Disaster Toll Rises . . .
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
.
.

dave

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Mar 12, 2011, 8:41:26 AM3/12/11
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ASUS is Taiwan

arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 12, 2011, 9:14:55 AM3/12/11
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Toyota Yaris was assembled there . The plants (3) are probably
destroyed by now . Nissan has a presence there as well . . . ASUS HQ
is in Taipei, ROC . Their factories are probably on mainland .

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 12, 2011, 9:51:25 AM3/12/11
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That is a worst nighmare, regarding nuke plant.
Another Chernobel?
cuhulin

D@LS

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Mar 12, 2011, 11:33:49 AM3/12/11
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They are also in the U.S.A.
And the pricks hung up on me 3 times yesterday.
There answer was for me to give the machine a Labotomy and reinstall
everything.

THEY SUCK!

ASUS Service U.S.A.Sucks - BEWARE of these people.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 12, 2011, 11:45:45 AM3/12/11
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Asus hung up on you? I don't doubt that.
Tell the World about it at, Rip-Off Report.

This Summertime, I am going to buy me a new Velocity Micro desktop
computer from Velocity Micro in Good old Richmond,Virginia U.S.A.
http:///www.velocitymicro.com

We got Wagon Master on the TCM channel.It's Good show.
cuhulin

RHF

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Mar 14, 2011, 7:43:46 AM3/14/11
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On Mar 12, 4:57 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 3:04 am, "D@LS" <helms...@wowway.com/> wrote:> Japanese NUKE plant explodes.
> > Turn on the Radio or tv.
> > ASUS is incapable of supporting there products - BEWARE of these people.
>
>  .
> NHK News : Explosion Heard at Quake-Hit Reactorhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_50.htmlhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_54.html
>  .
> BBC-WS : Huge Blast at Japan Nuclear Planthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219

>  .
> VOA News : Japan Trying to Contain Potential
> Nuclear Crisis Following Massive Earthquakehttp://www.voanews.com/english/news/Japan-Trying-to-Contain-Potential...

>  .
> Explosion at Japan Nuke Plant
> as the Disaster Toll Rises . . .http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
>  .
>  .

~38 Strong Earthquakes with Magnitude 6 or Larger in Japan

USGS : Latest Earthquakes in the World - Past 7 Days
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php

Note : Hundreds of 4.5+ Earthquakes in Japan
both Before and After "The Big One" ~ RHF
.
.

dave

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Mar 14, 2011, 8:38:10 AM3/14/11
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Every Tsunami makes my hillside property more appealing. I can't wait to
see all those assholes in Santa Monica trying to outrun a fucking tidal
wave.

bpnjensen

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Mar 14, 2011, 10:33:46 AM3/14/11
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On Mar 12, 9:33 am, "D@LS" <helms...@wowway.com/> wrote:

That's everyone's answer to everything nowadays. It ain't just ASUS.

PCs are one of the few things on which I ever consider an extended
warranty from a place like Best Buy. If you ain't a PC geek and you
don't get one, you're taking a real crap shoot.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 14, 2011, 10:23:00 AM3/14/11
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I am sure there are a lot of nice people in Santa Monica, why do pick on
them like that?
cuhulin

Burr

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Mar 14, 2011, 10:40:40 AM3/14/11
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I've been waiting on my Red Mountain place to be waterfront property!

Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Mar 14, 2011, 10:44:05 AM3/14/11
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bpnjensen wrote:
> PCs are one of the few things on which I ever consider an extended
> warranty from a place like Best Buy. If you ain't a PC geek and you
> don't get one, you're taking a real crap shoot.

Or find a local teenager.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.

bpnjensen

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Mar 14, 2011, 11:41:27 AM3/14/11
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On Mar 14, 7:44 am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com>
wrote:

> bpnjensen wrote:
> > PCs are one of the few things on which I ever consider an extended
> > warranty from a place like Best Buy.  If you ain't a PC geek and you
> > don't get one, you're taking a real crap shoot.
>
> Or find a local teenager.
>
> Geoff.

LOL! :-D

bpnjensen

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Mar 14, 2011, 11:41:58 AM3/14/11
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How could they be? They all be Libruls! :-D

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 14, 2011, 12:02:46 PM3/14/11
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It's a PC WORLD. and PCs on the Moon, and PCs in Orbit, and the
International Space Station, and PCs flung farrrrrr and wide through out
Outer Space.Them thar Space Aliens are probally laffin their asses off.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 14, 2011, 12:12:23 PM3/14/11
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And the aftershocks go on.
http://www.libertypost.org
cuhulin

dave

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Mar 14, 2011, 6:11:15 PM3/14/11
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Those are the ones whose drowning deaths I will mourn. Name 3.

bpnjensen

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Mar 14, 2011, 6:16:24 PM3/14/11
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On Mar 14, 3:11 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 3/14/2011 7:23 AM, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:> I am sure there are a lot of nice people in Santa Monica, why do pick on

> > them like that?
> > cuhulin
>
> Those are the ones whose drowning deaths I will mourn. Name 3.

Isn't there a rollercoaster there? I hope it doesn't get wrecked!

dave

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Mar 14, 2011, 6:17:30 PM3/14/11
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On 3/14/2011 7:44 AM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> bpnjensen wrote:
>> PCs are one of the few things on which I ever consider an extended
>> warranty from a place like Best Buy. If you ain't a PC geek and you
>> don't get one, you're taking a real crap shoot.
>
> Or find a local teenager.
>
> Geoff.
>
This is why I like Linux. You can ask plain questions on search and get
free answers. To get the same answers on Windows you have to pay
someone, or register for a secret code, or like that. The Linux
community gives me hope.

bpnjensen

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Mar 14, 2011, 6:21:22 PM3/14/11
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On Mar 12, 4:57 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 3:04 am, "D@LS" <helms...@wowway.com/> wrote:> Japanese NUKE plant explodes.
> > Turn on the Radio or tv.
> > ASUS is incapable of supporting there products - BEWARE of these people.
>
>  .
> NHK News : Explosion Heard at Quake-Hit Reactorhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_50.htmlhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_54.html
>  .
> BBC-WS : Huge Blast at Japan Nuclear Planthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219

>  .
> VOA News : Japan Trying to Contain Potential
> Nuclear Crisis Following Massive Earthquakehttp://www.voanews.com/english/news/Japan-Trying-to-Contain-Potential...

>  .
> Explosion at Japan Nuke Plant
> as the Disaster Toll Rises . . .http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
>  .
>  .

Repeat link here - good information on Japanese nukes...

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-03/whats-happening-japans-nuclear-power-plants

dave

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Mar 14, 2011, 6:25:57 PM3/14/11
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You got to be kidding. "Mission aborted to clean unused icons off the
desktop".

http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2010/07/why-nasa-uses-open-source-and.html

Burr

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Mar 14, 2011, 8:39:45 PM3/14/11
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Live news in English:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/index.html
--
Burr
Big, Lean, Mean and Clean.
I Push Iron and Turn Cranks
I'll be lifting until they pry the
bar from my cold dead hands
Adventure before Dementia

I'm a member of The Tea Party, I VOTE

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arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 15, 2011, 4:08:42 AM3/15/11
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On Mar 14, 8:38 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 03/14/2011 04:43 AM, RHF wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 4:57 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net>  wrote:
> >> On Mar 12, 3:04 am, "D@LS"<helms...@wowway.com/>  wrote:>  Japanese NUKE plant explodes.
> >>> Turn on the Radio or tv.
> >>> ASUS is incapable of supporting there products - BEWARE of these people.
>
> >>   .
> >> NHK News : Explosion Heard at Quake-Hit Reactorhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_50.htmlhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/d...

> >>   .
> >> BBC-WS : Huge Blast at Japan Nuclear Planthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219
> >>   .
> >> VOA News : Japan Trying to Contain Potential
> >> Nuclear Crisis Following Massive Earthquakehttp://www.voanews.com/english/news/Japan-Trying-to-Contain-Potential...
> >>   .
> >> Explosion at Japan Nuke Plant
> >> as the Disaster Toll Rises . . .http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
> >>   .
> >>   .
>
> > ~38 Strong Earthquakes with Magnitude 6 or Larger in Japan
>
> > USGS : Latest Earthquakes in the World - Past 7 Days
> >http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
>
> > Note : Hundreds of 4.5+ Earthquakes in Japan
> > both Before and After "The Big One" ~ RHF
> >   .
> >   .
>
> Every Tsunami makes my hillside property more appealing. I can't wait to
> see all those assholes in Santa Monica trying to outrun a fucking tidal
> wave.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mount Unzen (a dormant volcano) has created something MUCH bigger in
the past .

arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 15, 2011, 4:15:28 AM3/15/11
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On Mar 14, 6:21 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 4:57 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 3:04 am, "D@LS" <helms...@wowway.com/> wrote:> Japanese NUKE plant explodes.
> > > Turn on the Radio or tv.
> > > ASUS is incapable of supporting there products - BEWARE of these people.
>
> >  .
> > NHK News : Explosion Heard at Quake-Hit Reactorhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_50.htmlhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/d...

> >  .
> > BBC-WS : Huge Blast at Japan Nuclear Planthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219
> >  .
> > VOA News : Japan Trying to Contain Potential
> > Nuclear Crisis Following Massive Earthquakehttp://www.voanews.com/english/news/Japan-Trying-to-Contain-Potential...
> >  .
> > Explosion at Japan Nuke Plant
> > as the Disaster Toll Rises . . .http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
> >  .
> >  .
>
> Repeat link here - good information on Japanese nukes...
>
> http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-03/whats-happening-japans-...- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Pellets . Uranium oxide . Plutonium ... And the evacuation zone is a
mere 30 Km ???

arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 15, 2011, 4:26:14 AM3/15/11
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On Mar 15, 4:15 am, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Mar 14, 6:21 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 4:57 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 12, 3:04 am, "D@LS" <helms...@wowway.com/> wrote:> Japanese NUKE plant explodes.
> > > > Turn on the Radio or tv.
> > > > ASUS is incapable of supporting there products - BEWARE of these people.
>
> > >  .
> > > NHK News : Explosion Heard at Quake-Hit Reactorhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_50.htmlhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/d...
> > >  .
> > > BBC-WS : Huge Blast at Japan Nuclear Planthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219
> > >  .
> > > VOA News : Japan Trying to Contain Potential
> > > Nuclear Crisis Following Massive Earthquakehttp://www.voanews.com/english/news/Japan-Trying-to-Contain-Potential...
> > >  .
> > > Explosion at Japan Nuke Plant
> > > as the Disaster Toll Rises . . .http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
> > >  .
> > >  .
>
> > Repeat link here - good information on Japanese nukes...
>
> >http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-03/whats-happening-japans-...Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Pellets . Uranium oxide . Plutonium ... And the evacuation zone is a
> mere 30 Km ???- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Or is it stay-indoors and don't inhale ... and just a 20 Km radius
evacuation zone ??? Is this another B.S.advice from the guvmint !

dave

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Mar 15, 2011, 9:04:31 AM3/15/11
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On 03/15/2011 01:08 AM, arthr...@webtv.net wrote:

>
> Mount Unzen (a dormant volcano) has created something MUCH bigger in
> the past .

Yellowstone WY is a dormant volcano that spewed rocks halfway to Saint
Louis.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 15, 2011, 11:13:18 AM3/15/11
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Boosh administration once said to tape plastic over your windows and
doors.

Yeah, that will fix it!
cuhulin

RHF

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Mar 15, 2011, 11:59:45 AM3/15/11
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On Mar 14, 5:38 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 03/14/2011 04:43 AM, RHF wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 4:57 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net>  wrote:
> >> On Mar 12, 3:04 am, "D@LS"<helms...@wowway.com/>  wrote:>  Japanese NUKE plant explodes.
> >>> Turn on the Radio or tv.
> >>> ASUS is incapable of supporting there products - BEWARE of these people.
>
> >>   .
> >> NHK News : Explosion Heard at Quake-Hit Reactorhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_50.htmlhttp://www3.nhk.or.jp/d...

> >>   .
> >> BBC-WS : Huge Blast at Japan Nuclear Planthttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219
> >>   .
> >> VOA News : Japan Trying to Contain Potential
> >> Nuclear Crisis Following Massive Earthquakehttp://www.voanews.com/english/news/Japan-Trying-to-Contain-Potential...
> >>   .
> >> Explosion at Japan Nuke Plant
> >> as the Disaster Toll Rises . . .http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
> >>   .
> >>   .

- - ~38 Strong Earthquakes with Magnitude 6 or Larger in Japan
- -
- - USGS : Latest Earthquakes in the World - Past 7 Days
- - http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
- -
- - Note : Hundreds of 4.5+ Earthquakes in Japan
- - both Before and After "The Big One" ~ RHF

38 'Strong' Earthquakes with Magnitude 6 or Larger in Japan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7ecd84e5dd8989e4
.
- Every Tsunami makes my hillside property more appealing.
- I can't wait to see all those assholes in Santa Monica trying
- to outrun a fucking tidal wave.

Dave : "Roy H Dipshit proudly states the obvious"

Dave : "those assholes in Santa Monica"

Dave : Your Post Once Again Proves That You Are
NO Libertarian of any stripe -but- an Intolerant Elitist*
With "Vulgar" Liberal-Fascist Tendencies.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/920c3f7fdd38ee9b
Always Amazed by those who claim to be "Libertarians"
so-called Champions of Individual Rights and Personal
Freedoms : Who Instantly Resort to Name Calling and
Vulgarities : Proving that they really are completely
Intolerant Progressive Elitists -aka- Liberal-Fascists :
Who Attack Any Minority Who Is Not The Right Kind
of Liberal Minority and Toe The Liberal Line.
* Telling You What You Can and Can't Say
* Telling You What You Can and Can't Think
* Telling You What You Can and Can't Do
* Telling You How You Can and Can't Live
* Defining How Minorities Must Think
* Demanding How Minorities Must Act
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7f00e5d20874c831
= Elitist Control Freaks = Overlords of the Masses =
= Controlling Elitists Racists = Overlords of the Minorities =
.
.
dave dave dave dave dave dave dave dave dave
vulgar vulgar vulgar vulgar vulgar vulgar vulgar
drug user drug user drug user drug user drug user
liberals liberals liberals liberals liberals liberals
fascist fascist fascist fascist fascist fascist fascist
hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate
speech speech speech speech speech speech
elitist elitist elitist elitist elitist elitist elitist elitist
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 15, 2011, 1:04:14 PM3/15/11
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Nuke radiation, some other related, new articles at
http://www.rense.com
other online news sites.
Watching Deutsche Welle Journal on DirecTV.

It is getting worse in Japan.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 15, 2011, 2:25:45 PM3/15/11
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6.4 quake hits Southwest of Tokyo.
http://www.drudgereport.com

Nothing I can do about it, might as well get back up in my attic.Doggy
has a 9:00 AM appointment tomorrow morning at Animal Medical center, 995
South Frontage Road.
Doggy does NOT like to ride.Maybe she doesn't trust my driving.I have
been driving since 1957, no accidents yet.
cuhulin

arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 16, 2011, 4:15:52 AM3/16/11
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But ...uhm, wasn't it another Presi-Dent that claimed to ' smoke but
didn't inhale ' ? Of course , it can't be Boosh . He is NOT that
sophisticated .

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 16, 2011, 1:02:38 PM3/16/11
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http://www.techchee.com

I donts wants no Motorola Xoom either.
Howsomever, someday I will boughts me some kind of an older model Touch
Tablet that is marked down to less than a hunnert dollars and I will
'Jailbreak' that dude.If I caint, I will find me somebody who will.

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=How+to+Unlock+your+Touch+Tablet
cuhulin, touchin doggy's WebTV keyboard

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 16, 2011, 1:21:09 PM3/16/11
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All that nuke stuff (water leak at Toronto plant,
http://www.drudgereport.com
http://www.rense.com
and crap and the Born in Kenya! USURPER! MOFO! POS! is 'Flying down to
Rio'.Party Time, gonna take in the sights!
cuhulin

RHF

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Mar 16, 2011, 7:31:10 PM3/16/11
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On Mar 16, 10:21 am, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:

- All that nuke stuff (water leak at Toronto plant,
- http://www.drudgereport.com
- http://www.rense.com

Cuhulin,

So... The Present Day Choice is "The Nuke Stuff"
-or- Clean Burning Coal at 1/10,,, 1/100... 1/1000 ! ! !
The Centuries---Millenniums Long Environmental Pollution

What Do We Do For the Next 10 to 20 to 40 to 80 Years
Until We Get To Some 'Other' Clean Safer More Sustainable
Fuel and Power Source.
-yeah-i-know-sit-in-the-dark-and-freeze-in-the-cold-

Your Choice : The Real 'Bad' Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad 'Clean' Coal "Stuff"
-one-or-the-other-for-now-:-
-then-you-can-choose-what's-next...-

and that's the way 'i' see it ~ RHF
.
.
- and crap and the Born in Kenya! USURPER!
- MOFO! POS! is 'Flying down to Rio'.
- Party Time, gonna take in the sights!
- cuhulin

Yeah Another 'Stinking' Trip by Prez "BO" {Obama}

Prez Obama "The Vacation" {Play-Boy} Prez-a-Duntz !
It's Now Vacation # 16 Extravagant Latin American Trip !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1647a644a9b4bb3b
-while-japan-burns-into-a-nuclear-waste-land-
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 16, 2011, 11:44:41 PM3/16/11
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You want me to see can I find some of that Potassiunated Ionized stuff
for you in Rio?

'Gettin heavy in the Chevy'
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=304638

Hey, we gots a bunch of them old Irish sort of kind of movies on TCM
tomorrow.

My Willlllllllld Irish Rossssssse,,,,,,,

I can crank up the bolume and hear it up in my attic.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 17, 2011, 12:30:49 AM3/17/11
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Scene From Hell: Panic Hits Tokyo: 70000 Flee Nuclear Zone
http://www.standeyo.com
cuhulin

arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 17, 2011, 1:30:14 AM3/17/11
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On Mar 17, 12:30 am, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> Scene From Hell: Panic Hits Tokyo: 70000 Flee Nuclear Zonehttp://www.standeyo.com
> cuhulin

NHK reported something on the order of 400,000 in the affected area .
But Tokyo itself is becoming a place that everyone wants to leave ,
though . . . It's population is huge . MetroTokyo is >35 million . . .

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 17, 2011, 2:06:04 AM3/17/11
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More and more Japanese people are believing their govt is doing a
'Toyota'.Not fessin up the Truth to them.

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Japanese+car+runs+on+water

It isn't running now, I Doubt if it ever will either.

Japanese auto factories in America just might have to close down, for a
while anyway.

How come TCM runs some of those real Good old movies at this time of
night when doggy and I should be in bed.Furr instance, Sunrise movie is
on TCM right now.TCM needs to get somebody who will put those real Good
old movies on there at a decent hour.
BOYCOTT TCM!!!
cuhulin

arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 17, 2011, 3:56:09 AM3/17/11
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Their guvmint says : stay indoors in the 30Km radius . That is ,if one
still has a home . Our guvmint says to get the hell out if you are in
the 50 mile radius . So sad . SDF is using huge buckets to cool down
the reactors with salt water from the ocean . Very sad .

bpnjensen

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On Mar 16, 4:31 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 10:21 am, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> - All that nuke stuff (water leak at Toronto plant,
> -http://www.drudgereport.com
> -http://www.rense.com

>
> Cuhulin,
>
> So... The Present Day Choice is "The Nuke Stuff"
> -or- Clean Burning Coal at 1/10,,, 1/100... 1/1000 ! ! !
> The Centuries---Millenniums Long Environmental Pollution
>
> What Do We Do For the Next 10 to 20 to 40 to 80 Years
> Until We Get To Some 'Other' Clean Safer More Sustainable
> Fuel and Power Source.
> -yeah-i-know-sit-in-the-dark-and-freeze-in-the-cold-
>
> Your Choice : The Real 'Bad' Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
> -or- The Relatively Not As Bad 'Clean' Coal "Stuff"
> -one-or-the-other-for-now-:-
> -then-you-can-choose-what's-next...-
>
> and that's the way 'i' see it ~ RHF

Thorium Fission + Solar/Wind + Fusion in 40 years = permanent
solution.

Bruce

bpnjensen

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"Sunrise" is one of the greatest films ever made. A complete and
undiluted masterpiece.

Kevin Alfred Strom

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On 3/17/2011 11:48 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
[...]

>
> Thorium Fission + Solar/Wind + Fusion in 40 years = permanent
> solution.
>
> Bruce


The real question is: Can the solutions of the highly intelligent
problem _solvers_ keep advancing at a rate that exceeds the
beyond-Malthusian reproduction rates of the bottom-of-the-curve
problem _makers_?

Upon the answer to that question the fate not only of our
civilization, but of all life in the universe, may well depend.


With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

bpnjensen

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On Mar 17, 9:55 am, Kevin Alfred Strom <kevin.st...@revilo-oliver.com>
wrote:

An excellent question.

RHF

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? How Do You Shut Down The Un-Safe Deadly Polluting
Nuclear Power Plants Now {Today] An Get To There !

First ? How Do You Shut Down -a- Clean Coal !

Second ? The Un-Safe Deadly Polluting Nuclear Power
Plants Now {Today] -a- Clean Coal !

Third ? An Get To There -a- Clean Coal !

Wind Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Supplement
Power Source To Some Prime Source Like . . .
Clean Coal !

Solar Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Half-Answer
{Daylight} Power Source To A Full-Time Source Like . . .
Clean Coal !

Thorium Fission Is Still A Source of Nuclear Radiation
And Radiation By Products and Waste -while- Clean
Coal Has Significantly Less of Both.

ROTFL Fusion in 40 years -oh-well- Until Then Clean Coal !

America's Answer Remains for the Next 10 to 20 to 40+
Years -is- Clean Coal - imho ~ RHF
.


Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4d72ef494dec66f9
America's Own Clean Coal !
American Jobs In Clean Coal !
America's Energy Independence Is Clean Coal !
Getting From Here To There Requires Clean Coal !
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Not too many years ago, France wanted to shut down some kind of a new
fangled super duper nuke plant.They discovered it would cost them do
much money to shut it down, it was much cheaper to keep it going.
cuhulin

bpnjensen

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Mar 17, 2011, 2:04:35 PM3/17/11
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>  .- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You must be living in a vacuum.

Thorium = No meltdowns
Thorium = Much lower grade, *much* shorter half-life, MUCH more
manageable wastes.
Thorium = Technology about take off in other countries. AGAIN, the USA
is falling behind.
Thorium = A way to burn existing nuclear waste into less harmful
materials.
Thorium = An eminently abundant fuel supply for 1,000 years.
Thorium = No reehouse emissions at all.

Solar = dropping costs almost daily.
Solar = No greenhouse emissions at all.
Solar = Ability to be placed on every rooftop, parking lot and freeway
in America without damaging other resources. 10,000 square miles (and
dropping daily) will power the entire nation.
Solar = Held back only by oil and coal politics.
Solar = Abundant fuel for more than 1,000,000,000 years.

Fusion = Held back by coal and oil politics.
Fusion = Putting to bed almost all the problems of fission
Fusion = Predicted ablity to be commercial in 50 years if we have the
foresight to fund research.
Fusion = No greehouse emissions at all.
Fusion = Abundant fuel for 16,000,000,000,000 years.

The pieces are in place. Basically, all we lack right now are
foresight, imagination and the politics to make things actually happen
- you know, all the things that made America Great to start with. Guys
like you, with your prejudices and can't do attitude, hold us back.

Stop looking backward.

m II

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On 11-03-17 12:04 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

> Thorium = An eminently abundant fuel supply for 1,000 years.

> Solar = Abundant fuel for more than 1,000,000,000 years.

> Fusion = Abundant fuel for 16,000,000,000,000 years.


It's all a good start, but what about the LONG term?


methuselah mike
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Hydro-Dams produce lots of electricity daily and nightly.No batteries
(except what's in their smart phones and cars and other little battery
powered deeeeeeeevices) and Inverters requires.

Doggy done finally deeeeeeeeceided to start knawin on one of her CET
Dental chews (that stuff is made in France, I think it says so on the
bag, Virbac AH,Inc. P.O.Box 162059 Fort Worth,Texas.I reckon Fort Worth
is the American office/distributor/whatever) I bought at the Animal
Health Products store (next door to Animal Medical Center, they are both
in the same building) yesterday, while I was waiting on the Vet to do
her liver level test thangy on doggy.

Bouts time, that bag of thirty CET Dental chews thangys cost me $14.95
plus $1,05 Missy Sippy RIPP OFF sales tax.Doggy will get one of them
everyday, I can go back to that store and buy more.
cuhulin

bpnjensen

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On Mar 17, 11:29 am, m II <C...@in.the.hat> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> On 11-03-17 12:04 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
> > Thorium = An eminently abundant fuel supply for 1,000 years.
> > Solar = Abundant fuel for more than 1,000,000,000 years.
> > Fusion = Abundant fuel for 16,000,000,000,000 years.
>
> It's all a good start,  but what about the LONG term?
>
> methuselah mike

Yeah, that 'Heat Death' of the Universe isn't just right around the
corner! :-)

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 17, 2011, 2:49:13 PM3/17/11
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http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=What+percentage+of+electricity+does+France+get+from+nuclear+power+plants?

Over 75 percent.There are some thingys that France does do right.

Now, if only those Frogs would start taking a bath.You don't believe me?
That married Irish woman wayyyyyyyyy over yonder across the big pond,
sometimes she and her hubby catch that Chunnel and they go France,
sometimes to Belgium to buy cigs and booze/whatever, because it is
cheaper than in Bognor Regis,England.She can tell you.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 17, 2011, 3:30:48 PM3/17/11
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Old country from Edwards,Mississippi! he once told me he knows ALL about
Chainsaws!, (He BROKE my old Remington Chainsaw!) Show me where that
lawn mower Oil Drain Plug is!!! he is sitting in a plastic chair on that
little concrete porch (I reckon that little concrete porch is about five
feet square) over there with a Fly Swatter.

No Flys over here!,,, some Wasps and Yellow Jackets though. Yesterday, I
saw and I heard a big Bumble Bee in my attic, Buzzin around one of my
three long Dangerous flourescent lights up there.I boughts them at the
Lowe's store last year.

I reckon I might as well git bak uppa enema mah attic and du sum mo
woikin uppa thar.I won't bother any Bumble Bees, they are precious few
and farr between.

Flyin downnnnnnnn to Riooooooo,,,,,,,
Lookin for the birrrrrrrrrth certificaaaaaaate in Riooooooo,,,,,,,
cuhulin, the Bumble Bee
..................................................
Did you know a Bumble Bee can sting you twice? ~ Walter Brennan
..................................................

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 17, 2011, 7:00:30 PM3/17/11
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Monitor Radiation in Your Area
http://www.standeyo.com
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 17, 2011, 7:24:02 PM3/17/11
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http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Tatum+Salt+Dome+Tests+Mississippi

DAMN COMMUNIST fed govt Nuked that Salt Dome not once, but Twice!!!
Only recently, as of last year, was it given back to Mississippi

U.S.fed govt IS OUR WORST ENEMY!!!
cuhulin

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Mar 17, 2011, 8:58:21 PM3/17/11
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I saw on the web, a guy hooked up an alternator to his bicycle.He had
rigged his bicycle so as to be stationary, sort of like my one wheel
exerciser bicycle on doggy's front porch.Sometimes I get on it and pedal
for a while, but I don't go nowhar.My old buddy gave me that one wheel
bicycle last year.

I have an old one wheel Unicycle too, I bought it at Goodwill a bunch of
years ago.It needs a new tire and tube.
http://pybertra.free.fr/ceol/bunting/mollystg.mid
cuhulin, Mah wheel fell off!

RHF

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Mar 17, 2011, 9:22:43 PM3/17/11
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Only In Your Mind ! ;;-}} ~ RHF

>
> Thorium = No meltdowns
> Thorium = Much lower grade, *much* shorter half-life, MUCH more
> manageable wastes.
> Thorium = Technology about take off in other countries. AGAIN, the USA
> is falling behind.
> Thorium = A way to burn existing nuclear waste into less harmful
> materials.
> Thorium = An eminently abundant fuel supply for 1,000 years.
> Thorium = No reehouse emissions at all.

Again Which Part of 'Thorium' Is Not Nuclear ?
-oops-oops-oops-oops-oops-oops-oops-oops-
Would You Drink A Thorium-Cola ?
Would You Lay Down On A Bed of Thorium ?
Would You Move Your Family Into A House
Made of Thorium Waste ?

? Which Party of 'Thorium' Can Not Be Used In
A "Dirty Bomb" !

? Which Party of 'Thorium' Power Plant Is Not A
Terrorist Target !
.

> Solar = dropping costs almost daily.
> Solar = No greenhouse emissions at all.
> Solar = Ability to be placed on every rooftop, parking lot and freeway
> in America without damaging other resources.  10,000 square miles (and
> dropping daily) will power the entire nation.
> Solar = Held back only by oil and coal politics.
> Solar = Abundant fuel for more than 1,000,000,000 years.

Solar Uses Up Vast Tracks of Land And Destroys
Entire Eco-Systems and Animal Habitats.
-also- Wind Power Uses Up Vast Amounts of Land
And Destroys Entire Eco-Systems and Animal Habitats.
.
100s & 1,000s of Hydro Planets Working Right Now
Expand Them and Build More and Expand them More...
Hydro Uses Land {Resource} More Efficiently
and Has a 100 Year Proven History
Hydro Produces Electricity Around the Clock 24&7
Hydro's Additional Benefit Flood Control & Public Safety
Hydro's Additional Benefit Clear Water for People
Hydro's Additional Benefit Good Water for Agriculture
Hydro's Additional Benefit Water for Aquaculture Food
Hydro's Additional Benefit Water for Recreation Fun
-solar-has-limited-benefits-and-wastes-land-
? ? ? WHY ISN'T HYDRO ON THE TABLE ? ? ?
.
100s & 1,000s of Coal Fired Planets Working Right Now
Expand Them and Make Them Cleaner . . .
Build More and Make Them Cleaner . . .
Clean Coal Produces Electricity Around the Clock 24&7
Clean Coal Uses Land {Resource} More Efficiently
and Has a 100 Year Proven History
? ? ? WHY ISN'T CLEAN COAL ON THE TABLE ? ? ?


.
> Fusion = Held back by coal and oil politics.
> Fusion = Putting to bed almost all the problems of fission
> Fusion = Predicted ablity to be commercial in 50 years if we have the
> foresight to fund research.
> Fusion = No greehouse emissions at all.
> Fusion = Abundant fuel for 16,000,000,000,000 years.

Not One 'Fusion' Plant Working Today
Not One 'Fusion' Plant Being Built Today
Not One 'Fusion' Plant Ready To Be Built Within 5 Years
Not One 'Fusion' Plant Ready To Produce Electricity Within 10 Years
At Best 'Fusion' Is 10 to 20 to 40 Years into the Future
? ? ? WHAT DO WE DO UNTIL THEN ? ? ?

WHAT IS DOABLE TOMORROW : CLEAN COAL !
100s & 1,000s of Coal Fired Planets Working Right Now
Expand Them and Make Them Cleaner . . .
Build More and Make Them Cleaner . . .
Clean Coal Uses Land {Resource} More Efficiently
and Has a 100 Year Proven History
? ? ? WHY ISN'T CLEAN COAL ON THE TABLE ? ? ?
.
WHAT IS DOABLE TOMORROW : HYDRO !
100s & 1,000s of Hydro Planets Working Right Now
Expand Them and Build More and Expand them More...
Hydro Uses Land {Resource} More Efficiently
and Has a 100 Year Proven History
Hydro Produces Electricity Around the Clock 24&7
Hydro's Additional Benefit Flood Control & Public Safety
Hydro's Additional Benefit Clear Water for People
Hydro's Additional Benefit Good Water for Agriculture
Hydro's Additional Benefit Water for Aquaculture Food
Hydro's Additional Benefit Water for Recreation Fun
-solar-has-limited-benefits-and-wastes-land-
? ? ? WHY ISN'T HYDRO ON THE TABLE ? ? ?


.
> The pieces are in place.  Basically, all we lack right now are
> foresight, imagination and the politics to make things actually happen
> - you know, all the things that made America Great to start with.

More Pipe Dreams of the Mythical 'Fusion' Groupies

- Guys like you, with your prejudices and can't do attitude, hold us
back.

It Is You That Dream of What Might Be In 10 to 20
to 40 Years : With No Real Anwsers For Today and
Tomorrow -while- I Give Real Practical Answers To
Today and Tomorrow.

Why Are You So Prejudice Against {Anti} Clean Coal ?
For Today and Tomorrow Until Your Dreams Can Come
True ? {If Ever}
-sitting-in-the-dark-&-freezing-in-the-cold-ain't-an-answer-
-black-outs-&-brown-outs-for-the-next-10-20-40-years-
.
Why Are You So Prejudice Against {Anti} Hydro Power ?
For Today and Tomorrow Until Your Pipe Dreams
Can Come True ? {If Ever}
-sitting-in-the-dark-&-freezing-in-the-cold-ain't-an-answer-
-black-outs-&-brown-outs-for-the-next-10-20-40-years-
.
- Stop looking backward.

Another Environmentalist Exaggeration -aka- Liberal Lie
and Democrat Distortion : Truth Be Told I Advocate Looking
At Practical Real and Doable Solutions for Today and
Tomorrow Until Your Pipe Dreams Can Come True. {If Ever}
-putting-people-first-for-the-next-10-20-40-years-
-people-living-in-the-light-&-people-being-warm-in-the-cold-

~ RHF
.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4d72ef494dec66f9

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/94e203726a5bb2cb
.
.

RHF

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On Mar 17, 5:31 pm, Bob Dobbs <chupaca...@operamail.com> wrote:

> RHF wrote:
> >Getting From Here To There Requires Clean Coal !
>
> Getting to any logical point in your comments,
> however impossible it may turn out to be,
> would require a solution to your oxymoronic reference
> to "Clean Coal"
> --
>
> http://bit.ly/g2PCII

"Clean Coal" is only an 'Oxy+Moron'
*IF* You Are The Latter Using The Former ;;-}}
-wrt- 'Oxy+Moron'

"Clean Coal" is a Relative Term that is a Work
in Progress {Evolving} :
Very Much Cleaner Burning Than 100 Years Ago
Much Cleaner Burning Than 50 Years Ago
More Cleaner Burning Than 25 Years Ago
Coal Coal Technologies Improve Each Year and
Cleaner Coal Burning Is Doable Today with
Refitted 'Improved' Coal Burning Power Planets
and New/Newer Coal Burning Power Planets

What Would You Rather Have A One Foot Cube
{Block} of Nuclear Waste Encased in Glass in
Your Front Room -or- A One Foot Cube {Block}
of Clean Coal Waste Encased in Glass ? ? ?


.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4d72ef494dec66f9
.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/94e203726a5bb2cb


.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"

-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Hydro & Clean Coal "Stuff"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c19af421816bd3bb
.
.

bpnjensen

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It still produces excess tons of CO2.

cuh...@webtv.net

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cuh...@webtv.net

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Chunk of California Coastal Highway at Big Sur Falls Into Sea
http://www.rense.com

Ocean Front Property, baby.
What's the name of that movie? 2012, it's becoming Real! Oh, it's a Real
GOOD movie!
All of California breaking up and sliding off into the Sea.
cuhulin

Day Brown

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On 03/17/2011 11:55 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
> On 3/17/2011 11:48 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> Thorium Fission + Solar/Wind + Fusion in 40 years = permanent
>> solution.
>>
>> Bruce
>
>
> The real question is: Can the solutions of the highly intelligent
> problem _solvers_ keep advancing at a rate that exceeds the
> beyond-Malthusian reproduction rates of the bottom-of-the-curve problem
> _makers_?
>
> Upon the answer to that question the fate not only of our civilization,
> but of all life in the universe, may well depend.
More, Cosmopolitan, and Glamour magazines have all had raps about
upscale smart career women giving up on waiting for "Mr. Wright" and
going to fertility clinics. They wont get the perfect marriage, but so
far all the reports are they are very happy with perfect babies.

The result is the first generation of Uberwench. Who will no doubt be
moved into the business just as the sons of management formerly. Only in
this case, the moms wont be stupid sexy airheads, so the daughters will
be even more talented rather than the stupid buffoons we all know.

Taxpayers would do well to subsidize fertility clinic services to offer
equal opportunity to poor women, and then be much more generous with the
welfare. The poor women already know sperm donors in the local stud
muffin pool wont support the kids, so its a no brainer most of them
would take up the offer to bear far more talented kids.

And of course, immigrant men, who think they own women, would ship them
back to the old country ASAP. Solving another problem.

Moreover, if Mr. Wright does come along, and does not appreciate the
ability of a woman to produce a talented kid, then he would not be Mr.
Wright.

arthr...@webtv.net

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> Stop looking backward.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Precisely . But ... the mere fact that almost any country today
(theoretically) CAN build a N. power station doesn't make the world
ANY safer . After all , even Einstein regretted (true story) about
using atoms for warfare .

arthr...@webtv.net

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On Mar 17, 2:49 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=What+percentage+of+electricity+...

>
> Over 75 percent.There are some thingys that France does do right.
>
> Now, if only those Frogs would start taking a bath.You don't believe me?
> That married Irish woman wayyyyyyyyy over yonder across the big pond,
> sometimes she and her hubby catch that Chunnel and they go France,
> sometimes to Belgium to buy cigs and booze/whatever, because it is
> cheaper than in Bognor Regis,England.She can tell you.
> cuhulin

There is only one real Bath in the world ! And it happens to be
located in Somerset,UK .

arthr...@webtv.net

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On Mar 17, 7:00 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> Monitor Radiation in Your Areahttp://www.standeyo.com
> cuhulin

Will have to get a G-M meter for that . Expensive ... I wouldn't want
a used one (those old yellow thingies) from NRC or CD . No way . They
all probably emit particles from a to z .

arthr...@webtv.net

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On Mar 18, 12:27 am, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> Chunk of California Coastal Highway at Big Sur Falls Into Seahttp://www.rense.com

>
> Ocean Front Property, baby.
> What's the name of that movie? 2012, it's becoming Real! Oh, it's a Real
> GOOD movie!
> All of California breaking up and sliding off into the Sea.
> cuhulin

One of my HS teachers predicted so 35 years ago . Still , Ca is the
most populated state .

Christopher Helms

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A nuclear power plant has got to be the most convoluted, complex, Rube
Goldberg plan for boiling goddamn water that anybody ever came up
with.

Christopher Helms

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Or maybe there are a million steps in the nuclear power process
precisely so somebody can turn a profit every single step of the way.
Maybe it is *deliberately* complicated. It would be pretty cynical to
believe that corporations would gouge, rip off, endanger and generally
screw society over for money. Because we all know that they care.

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dave

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On 03/17/2011 08:48 AM, bpnjensen wrote:

>
> Thorium Fission + Solar/Wind + Fusion in 40 years = permanent
> solution.
>
> Bruce

Up to 40% or more electricity is wasted heating the air around HV
transmission lines. Put PV panels on every rooftop. Use the grid only to
top off batteries if necessary.

McMansions need not apply.

arthr...@webtv.net

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What about regions were it is mostly cloudy , most of the time ?

dave

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On 03/17/2011 10:18 AM, RHF wrote:

> Wind Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Supplement
> Power Source To Some Prime Source Like . . .
> Clean Coal !
>
> Solar Takes Up To Much Land : An Is Only A Half-Answer
> {Daylight} Power Source To A Full-Time Source Like . . .
> Clean Coal !
>

There is no such thing as "clean coal". There is no such thing as "too
much land". Ever driven from Barstow to Kingman?

dave

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On 03/17/2011 10:45 AM, cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> Not too many years ago, France wanted to shut down some kind of a new
> fangled super duper nuke plant.They discovered it would cost them do
> much money to shut it down, it was much cheaper to keep it going.
> cuhulin
>

dave

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On 03/17/2011 12:30 PM, cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> Old country from Edwards,Mississippi! he once told me he knows ALL about
> Chainsaws!, (He BROKE my old Remington Chainsaw!) Show me where that
> lawn mower Oil Drain Plug is!!! he is sitting in a plastic chair on that
> little concrete porch (I reckon that little concrete porch is about five
> feet square) over there with a Fly Swatter.


Does the Remington chainsaw start without warning?

dave

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Mar 18, 2011, 7:35:50 AM3/18/11
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dave

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Mar 18, 2011, 7:40:09 AM3/18/11
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There are other parts of the state that get bigger.

dave

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Mar 18, 2011, 7:48:12 AM3/18/11
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On 03/18/2011 02:53 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:

>
> A nuclear power plant has got to be the most convoluted, complex, Rube
> Goldberg plan for boiling goddamn water that anybody ever came up
> with.

It only makes sense if you have a plan to make terrible weapons from the
byproducts.

dave

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Mar 18, 2011, 7:49:58 AM3/18/11
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On 03/18/2011 03:55 AM, Bob Dobbs wrote:
> Y'all gonna be real surprised when California becomes an island
> and the rest of the country slides off into the Atlantic.<g>
>

We do have a badass volcano that can bury the rest of the country in
gray ash.

arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 18, 2011, 8:53:04 AM3/18/11
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> gray ash.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

It's peaceful . Like Vesuvius . . .

D@LS

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Mar 18, 2011, 10:22:47 AM3/18/11
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We are also sitting on a gigantic Natural Gas field.
Which costs 1/2 as much to run per thermal unit as Nuclear Power.
OBAMA is an ass hole!

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 18, 2011, 11:11:41 AM3/18/11
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http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Civil+Defense+Radiation+Detectors
http://www.radmeters4u.com

Yeah, in fact of the business,,, I do have an old CD Radiation
Detector.It looks just like that one at top of the radmeters4u.com
website.I bought it at the Goodwill store about fifteen - twenty years
ago.I think it needs a new special tube thingy to make it work.
cuhulin, Radiation Detectors R US

dave

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Mar 18, 2011, 11:07:56 AM3/18/11
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Like Germany? No problem, works great.

dave

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Mar 18, 2011, 11:12:23 AM3/18/11
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On 03/18/2011 07:22 AM, D@LS wrote:

>>
>
> We are also sitting on a gigantic Natural Gas field.
> Which costs 1/2 as much to run per thermal unit as Nuclear Power.
> OBAMA is an ass hole!

It requires massive amounts of fresh water (a very limited resource in
most places) to liberate the methane from the rock. The process isn't
quite as apocalyptic as coal mining, but it still messes up the
environment forever. We need to stop burning things.

bpnjensen

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Mar 18, 2011, 12:48:22 PM3/18/11
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> with.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL!

bpnjensen

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Mar 18, 2011, 12:50:54 PM3/18/11
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Won't argue there. Another nice thing about Thorium is that you can
make little reactors for industry and communities that obviate the
need for long lines. However, solar is still a better long term
solution, and fusion is the best fallback for 50 years from now.

D@LS

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Mar 18, 2011, 12:51:17 PM3/18/11
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If you talking about fracturing? That water can cleaned and be reused
and it will STILL be cheaper that Nuclear. It can also be mined from
the ocean in MONSTER quantities.

The environment will always be screwed up if we don't stop helping 3rd
world countries save there children from disease. We are soon to be
buried in SHXT thanks to saving the world!

Death and war are mother natures population control!

bpnjensen

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Mar 18, 2011, 12:53:42 PM3/18/11
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On Mar 18, 8:07 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> Like Germany? No problem, works great.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

The main problem with solar is that people keep on pointing out the
minor obstacles to FULL TIME solar and making believe those problems
do not have solutions. Except north or south of about 60 degrees N or
S latitude, solar can work pretty well most of the year, and storage
solutions to get you through a winter's night are available.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 18, 2011, 1:46:47 PM3/18/11
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Sacramento has detected small amounts of Radiation
(Radionutides/whatever) from the Fukishima nuke plant.
CNN TV news.They said it is nothing to worry about.
cuhulin, Yessuhhh, Ladies and Gents, getcho Potassium Pills ratchere, R
US

bpnjensen

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Mar 18, 2011, 1:57:03 PM3/18/11
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There's one in Maine.

bpnjensen

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Mar 18, 2011, 1:57:44 PM3/18/11
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Why would a G-M counter emit particles / waves?

RHF

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Mar 18, 2011, 2:10:07 PM3/18/11
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On Mar 18, 4:48 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

- - On 03/18/2011 02:53 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:
- - A nuclear power plant has got to be the most
- - convoluted, complex, Rube Goldberg plan for
- - boiling goddamn water that anybody ever came
- - up with.

- It only makes sense if you have a plan to make
- terrible weapons from the byproducts.

OMG Dave I Agree With You ! ~ RHF


.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4d72ef494dec66f9
.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/94e203726a5bb2cb


.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"

-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Hydro & Clean Coal "Stuff"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c19af421816bd3bb
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 18, 2011, 2:25:41 PM3/18/11
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U.S.Navy has a thingy about off shore Geothermal electricity generating
(Genatator) devices.Wouldn't take too many of them to supply all of
(dropping off into the Pacific) California's electricity needs.One of my
snail mail Popular Science (maybe it's one of my snail mail Popular
Mechanics magazines) magazines has an article about that.
Geothermal is Cool, also Safe.
cuhulin, Geothermals R US

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 18, 2011, 2:29:04 PM3/18/11
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http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Bath+Michigan
cuhulin, takes a bath every day.Baths R US

RHF

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Mar 18, 2011, 3:35:06 PM3/18/11
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On Mar 17, 7:00 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke {Radioactive} "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal {CO2} "Stuff"

- It still produces excess tons of CO2.
-so-sell-your-car-asap-:-you-co2-emitter-you-

OMG ! - The Environmentalist CO2 Scare Word
-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-co2-

...and... warning,,, Warning... WARNING ! ! !
Hydro Produces Mega-Tons of Stored H2O* !
-scary-scary-scary-scary-scary-scary-scary-
* -aka- Clean Drinking Water

NOTE : You Can Work At Reducing CO2 and Clean-Up
CO2 As We Do With Cars/Trunks/Trains; and Yes Even
Clean Coal too :o) -clean-is-good-&-cleaner-is-better-

What's The Half Life of CO2* {None}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
-versus- The Half-Life of Uranium** ? & Plutonium** ?
** Nuclear Power Plant Enriched Fuels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium#Enrichment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium#Isotopes_and_synthesis
* OOPS ! : CO2 Naturally Occurs !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide

* OOPS : Plants Need CO2 !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
-no-green-plants-on-this-green-earth-without-co2-
.
Stick your Arm Up-to-the-Elbow into a Vat of
'Tonic' CO2 for an Hour ...tick...tick...tick...
Now -rothfl- Stick your Arm Up-to-the-Elbow
into a Vat of 'Good' Thorium Pellets for an Hour
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium#Dangers_and_biological_roles
...tock...tock...tock... -hurry-call-the-doc-
-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-or-
Place a Sealed Mason Glass Jar Filled with CO2 on
your Work Deck for a Year : Have Any Problems ?
-now- Place a Sealed Mason Glass Jar Filled with
Thorium Pellets {Pretty Little Marbles} on your Work
Deck for a Year : Having Some Problems ?
.
Once Again It's Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty
Nuke {Radioactive} "Stuff" -or- The Relatively Not As
Bad Clean Coal {CO2} "Stuff" and Getting Clearner
Every Year !


.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4d72ef494dec66f9

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cc35604a7da1d452


.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Clean Coal "Stuff"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/94e203726a5bb2cb
.
Your Choice : The Real Bad Nasty Nuke "Stuff"
-or- The Relatively Not As Bad Hydro & Clean Coal "Stuff"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c19af421816bd3bb
.
.

> On Mar 17, 6:43 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 17, 5:31 pm, Bob Dobbs <chupaca...@operamail.com> wrote:


>
> > > RHF wrote:
> > > >Getting From Here To There Requires Clean Coal !
>

> > > Getting to any logical point in your comments,
> > > however impossible it may turn out to be,
> > > would require a solution to your oxymoronic reference
> > > to "Clean Coal"
> > > --
>
> > >http://bit.ly/g2PCII
>
> > "Clean Coal" is only an 'Oxy+Moron'
> > *IF* You Are The Latter Using The Former ;;-}}
> > -wrt- 'Oxy+Moron'


>
> > "Clean Coal" is a Relative Term that is a Work
> > in Progress {Evolving} :
> > Very Much Cleaner Burning Than 100 Years Ago
> > Much Cleaner Burning Than 50 Years Ago
> > More Cleaner Burning Than 25 Years Ago
> > Coal Coal Technologies Improve Each Year and
> > Cleaner Coal Burning Is Doable Today with
> > Refitted 'Improved' Coal Burning Power Planets
> > and New/Newer Coal Burning Power Planets
>

> > What Would You Rather Have A One Foot Cube
> > {Block} of Nuclear Waste Encased in Glass in
> > Your Front Room -or-  A One Foot Cube {Block}
> > of Clean Coal Waste Encased in Glass ? ? ?

Joe from Kokomo

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Mar 18, 2011, 3:51:39 PM3/18/11
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>> -or- The Relatively Not As Bad Hydro& Clean Coal "Stuff"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c19af421816bd3bb

On 3/17/2011 10:00 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

> It still produces excess tons of CO2.

Yes it does...but it sounds like you missed the PBS TV program about a
couple of prototype power plants that actually "store" their CO2.

Expensive? Sure, but in the long run, probably cheaper than processing
uranium ore into nuclear fuel and then having to store the spent fuel
rods for 50,000 years.

Joe from Kokomo

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Mar 18, 2011, 3:51:59 PM3/18/11
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On 3/18/2011 7:49 AM, dave wrote:

> We do have a badass volcano that can bury the rest of the country in
> gray ash.

...and so does Seattle and Yellowstone Park...

Joe from Kokomo

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Mar 18, 2011, 3:52:13 PM3/18/11
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> On Mar 18, 1:33 am, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Mar 17, 7:00 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>>> Monitor Radiation in Your Areahttp://www.standeyo.com
>>> cuhulin
>>
>> Will have to get a G-M meter for that . Expensive ... I wouldn't want
>> a used one (those old yellow thingies) from NRC or CD . No way . They
>> all probably emit particles from a to z .

On 3/18/2011 1:57 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

> Why would a G-M counter emit particles / waves?

The old yellow Civil Defense units have a small radioactive sample (beta
emitter?) on the side of the case to use as a reality check; i.e., to
see if the G-M counter is functioning.

dave

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Mar 18, 2011, 2:57:30 PM3/18/11
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The Geysers is a complex of 22 geothermal power plants, drawing steam
from more than 350 wells, located in the Mayacamas Mountains 116 km (72
mi) north of San Francisco, California. The largest in the world, the
Geysers has 1517 MW[1] of active installed capacity with an average
production factor of 63 % (955 MW).[2] Calpine Corporation operates and
owns 19 of the 22 active plants in the Geysers and is currently the
United States' largest producer of geothermal energy. Two other plants
are owned jointly by the Northern California Power Agency and the City
of Santa Clara's municipal Electric Utility (now called Silicon Valley
Power). The Bottle Rock Power plant owned by the US Renewables Group has
only recently been reopened.[3] Another plant is under development by
Ram Power Corp [1], formerly Western Geopower, with operation set to
begin in 2010. Since the activities of one geothermal plant affects
those nearby, the consolidation of plant ownership at The Geysers has
been beneficial because the plants operate cooperatively instead of in
their own short-term interest.
-picky weedia

dave

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Mar 18, 2011, 3:08:18 PM3/18/11
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On 03/18/2011 12:35 PM, RHF wrote:

> .
> Stick your Arm Up-to-the-Elbow into a Vat of
> 'Tonic' CO2 for an Hour ...tick...tick...tick...

http://co2now.org/Current-CO2/CO2-Now/global-carbon-emissions.html

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