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dave

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Oct 6, 2011, 8:00:25 AM10/6/11
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http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to_pentagon_budget_/

Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a
coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the “Wings of
Liberty Award” was given to Murray “in recognition of her longtime
support of the aerospace and defense industry,” reads the organization’s
press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of
America’s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
AIA’s Board of Governors, “Senator Murray knows the value of the
aerospace and defense industry.”

RHF

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Oct 7, 2011, 4:42:55 AM10/7/11
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Hey M4* Mania Dave :
Did You Read The News -and-weep-

* Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]

The IRS Rules That Medical-Marijuana is an
Illegal Drug and Medical-Marijuana 'Stores'
Criminal Enterprises and can NOT Deduct the
Costs of Employee Labor, Rent {expenses} and
may include the Cost of Buying the Product
{Marijuana} for Resale. -tax-it-tax-it-tax-it-
=$100=an=Ounce=Tax=on=Marijuana=
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/irs-hits-oakland-pot-dispensary-with-24m-tax-bill-but-allows-marijuana-costs-to-be-deducted/2011/10/04/gIQA6XTgLL_story.html

*IF* You {Individuals} Can Not Deduct Your
Illegal Heroin and Cocaine {Street Drugs}
as a Medical Expense : Then Why Should so
called Medical-Marijuana Users be able to
Deduct Their Illegal Marijuana {Drugs} as
a Medical Expense
-the-irs-needs-to-eliminate-this-criminal-
-illegal-drug-deduction-now-!-
http://www.noozhawk.com/article/100611_irs_prosecutors_move_against_california_dispensaries/
-medical-marijuana-tax-it-tax-it-tax-it-
.
.

dave

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Oct 7, 2011, 8:17:17 AM10/7/11
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:42:55 -0700, RHF wrote:

> The IRS Rules That Medical-Marijuana is an Illegal Drug and
> Medical-Marijuana 'Stores' Criminal Enterprises and can NOT Deduct the
> Costs of Employee Labor, Rent {expenses} and may include the Cost of
> Buying the Product {Marijuana} for Resale.

"...we deliver"

J R

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Oct 7, 2011, 12:31:50 PM10/7/11
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Only Americans can hurt America ~ Dwight David Eisenhower.
cuhulin

RHF

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Oct 9, 2011, 6:30:31 AM10/9/11
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On Oct 7, 1:42 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 5:00 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> >http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
> > chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to_pentagon_budget_/
>
> > Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
> > little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
> > airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a
> > coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the “Wings of
> > Liberty Award” was given to Murray “in recognition of her longtime
> > support of the aerospace and defense industry,” reads the organization’s
> > press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of
> > America’s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
> > AIA’s Board of Governors, “Senator Murray knows the value of the
> > aerospace and defense industry.”
>
> Hey M4* Mania Dave :
> Did You Read The News -and-weep-
>
> * Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]
>
> The IRS Rules That Medical-Marijuana is an
> Illegal Drug and Medical-Marijuana 'Stores'
> Criminal Enterprises and can NOT Deduct the
> Costs of Employee Labor, Rent {expenses} and
> may include the Cost of Buying the Product
> {Marijuana} for Resale. -tax-it-tax-it-tax-it-
> =$100=an=Ounce=Tax=on=Marijuana=http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/irs-hits-oakland-pot-dispensar...
>
> *IF* You {Individuals} Can Not Deduct Your
> Illegal Heroin and Cocaine {Street Drugs}
> as a Medical Expense : Then Why Should so
> called Medical-Marijuana Users be able to
> Deduct Their Illegal Marijuana {Drugs} as
> a Medical Expense
> -the-irs-needs-to-eliminate-this-criminal-
> -illegal-drug-deduction-now-!-http://www.noozhawk.com/article/100611_irs_prosecutors_move_against_c...
> -medical-marijuana-tax-it-tax-it-tax-it-
>  .
>  .


Hey M4* Mania Dave :
Did You Read The News -and-weep-

* Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]

Obama-Regime Implements Massive Marijuana
[POT] Dispensary Crackdown in California
http://www.mymotherlode.com/news/local/1366563/California-Pot-Dispensary-Crackdown.html

Welcome To Smoke* Free California ! ~ RHF
* Illegal Drug -aka- Marijuana [POT]
.
.
M4 Mania Dave Brain "Occupied" By Illegal {Un-Taxed} Drugs
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4612ec226c16a87e
.
DOJ Says No Guns For Medical Marijuana Patents
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ff280d105e9d03e
-the-obama-regime-will-be-a-knocking-to-
-take-away-both-your-guns-and-pot-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/83637cd3cd3bb5af
'tip' : be nice
.
Prez-A-Duntz "BO" {Obama-Regime} Launches
Attack Watch .Com !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2e0c96befa3461e7
-dave-on-attack-in-the-name-of-'the-obama'-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9244822b1c4a47e7
.
Here Is The Question : Will the same good people
who Voted for "BO" {Obama} in 2008 to Prove that
They Were Not RACISTS :
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/10c9d12fd0398a55
Now Vote for Anybody But "BO" {Obama} in 2012
to Prove that They Are Not IDIOTS !
.
Obama 2008 - Fool Me Once : Shame On You !
-o.b.a.m.a.-one-big-ass-mistake-america-!-
.
Obama 2012 - Fool Me Twice : Shame On Me !
-don't-shame-yourself-by-voting-'bo'-again-
.
May soon to be former us prez-a-duntz Obama
live a long and prosperous life as an "EX"
Prez-A-Duntz - Amen ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d0e8ffa087b4fdaf
.
.
Agent of the Obama-Regime Recommends Suspending US
Congressional Elections for the Next Couple of Years
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d0e8ffa087b4fdaf
.
The "Renewing American Spring" Is Coming...
In The Fall of 2012 [6th NOV Election]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/145b6dede6d75e9a
.
.

J R

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Oct 9, 2011, 2:56:30 PM10/9/11
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I buy BaccoTobacco menthol tobacco at a discount tobacco store on
Robinson Road. I hand roll my own cigs.I am smoking one right now.It
Smokes Good.It is real Good Tobacco, it doesn't have all that extra crap
in it like store bought cigs have.I don't like factory made cigs anyway.
cuhulin

J R

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Oct 9, 2011, 8:09:20 PM10/9/11
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The girl's father had nothing to do, so he got a hired man to help him.
~ Joe Keaton.
cuhulin

RHF

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Oct 9, 2011, 9:05:28 PM10/9/11
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Somewhere at some time many years ago;
I heard that most US Made Cigarettes were
20%~30% Cabbage; and that the stuff that
they 'treat' the Tobacco with in Cigarettes
to keep them burning is the real cause of
the Lung Cancers many Smokers get after
years of Smoking.

now-is-that-true... ~ RHF
.

John Smith

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Oct 10, 2011, 2:42:07 AM10/10/11
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On 10/9/2011 3:30 AM, RHF wrote:
> On Oct 7, 1:42 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 5:00 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
>>> chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to_pentagon_budget_/
>>
>>> Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
>>> little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
>>> airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a
>>> coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the �Wings of
>>> Liberty Award� was given to Murray �in recognition of her longtime
>>> support of the aerospace and defense industry,� reads the organization�s

>>> press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of
>>> America�s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
>>> AIA�s Board of Governors, �Senator Murray knows the value of the
>>> aerospace and defense industry.�

Whenever the slaves wanna' start an uprising, the powers which be
realize that if they fill their hands with busy work, they are much more
likely to be able to quell the revolution ... I guess they figure
abusing addicts is so much fun it will keep their minds off the lack of
jobs, low pay, lost benefits, potholes in the roads, inflation, etc.

Who knows? Morons do seem to be easily entertained ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith

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Oct 10, 2011, 2:53:10 AM10/10/11
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I know one thing, if you roll a cig with homegrown tobacco, it WON'T sit
there and burn up like a store bought one, you quit puffing on a
homemade and it ceases burning.

Someone, forgot who, told me they treat commercial tobacco with
potassium nitrate, to make it burn like that ... nitrates have been
known to cause cancer ... but krist, inhaling all the smoke in your
lungs, no matter what, can't be like breathing mountain air ... and if
you have asthma or other conditions, can't be good ...

But, hey, people die skydiving, mountain climbing, scuba diving, skiing,
driving race cars, playing sports, eating junk foods, etc. ... if you
enjoy it, do it ... screw the government!

Regards,
JS

J R

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Oct 10, 2011, 11:18:33 AM10/10/11
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My Grandpappy died back in the early 1960s, at about 96 years age.He
used to smoke a pack of Camel cigarettes every day.My Dad always smoked
a pipe, with Prince Albert pipe tobacco.

Y'all have Prince Albert in the can?
///We sell it///
You better let him out, he will suffacate in there!///
cuhulin

dave

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Oct 10, 2011, 11:48:56 AM10/10/11
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J R

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Oct 10, 2011, 1:11:34 PM10/10/11
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Watchin WLBT 3 tee vee noos at 12:00 PM, one of the tee vee stations
that doesn't exist enemawhere in the World, especially enema Missy
Sippy) Jackson State University, (JSU, they likes to call it) in cahoots
with Entergy and Nissan has done unveiled an electric charging station
for electric cars.It is the first of its kind enemawhere in Missy Sippy.
cuhulin

John Smith

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Oct 10, 2011, 3:27:44 PM10/10/11
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On 10/10/2011 8:18 AM, J R wrote:

Yep, when I first got my new doctor, a few years back, he asked me if I
smoked, I replied yes (what the hell, you know he already smelled it on
me!) He said, "You know, that is going to kill you, don't you?" I
replied, "I will be the first in my family, and they all smoked." That
is when he pointed out that he had to tell me that, the government and
the AMA required it ...

But, I do believe smoking does harm to the lungs, and certainly, if you
have emphysema, asthma, prone to pneumonia, etc. -- DON'T FOOKING
SMOKE!!! -- it is like, DUH!

Regards,
JS

J R

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Oct 10, 2011, 4:02:45 PM10/10/11
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I really should follow my own advice, Quit Smoking!
I did quit smoking in 1972, for seventeen years.I was driving a Sunbeam
bread truck, (Don't Say Bread, Say Sunbeam!) I had smoked three of the
cigs in my pack of Kool menthol cigarettes.I threw the rest of that pack
of cigs away.Seventeen years later, I lit up a Pall Mall cig and I was
smoking again.

I first started smoking in 1964 at Tan Son Nhut,Vietnam when I bummed a
Philip Morris cig from a guy.The next day I went to the PX store and
bought a pack of Philip Morris cigs.I was Hooked.
http://www.tsna.org
cuhulin

RHF

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Oct 13, 2011, 8:43:33 AM10/13/11
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> [POT] Dispensary Crackdown in Californiahttp://www.mymotherlode.com/news/local/1366563/California-Pot-Dispens...

>
> Welcome To Smoke* Free California ! ~ RHF
> * Illegal Drug -aka- Marijuana [POT]
>  .
>  .
> M4 Mania Dave Brain "Occupied" By Illegal {Un-Taxed} Drugshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4612ec226c16a87e

>  .
> DOJ Says No Guns For Medical Marijuana Patentshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ff280d105e9d03e
> -the-obama-regime-will-be-a-knocking-to-
> -take-away-both-your-guns-and-pot-http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/83637cd3cd3bb5af

> 'tip' : be nice
>  .
> Prez-A-Duntz "BO" {Obama-Regime} Launches
> Attack Watch .Com !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2e0c96befa3461e7
> -dave-on-attack-in-the-name-of-'the-obama'-http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9244822b1c4a47e7

>  .
> Here Is The Question : Will the same good people
> who Voted for "BO" {Obama} in 2008 to Prove that
> They Were Not RACISTS :http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/10c9d12fd0398a55
> Now Vote for Anybody But "BO" {Obama} in 2012
> to Prove that They Are Not IDIOTS !
>  .
> Obama 2008 - Fool Me Once : Shame On You !
> -o.b.a.m.a.-one-big-ass-mistake-america-!-
>  .
> Obama 2012 - Fool Me Twice : Shame On Me !
> -don't-shame-yourself-by-voting-'bo'-again-
>  .
> May soon to be former us prez-a-duntz Obama
> live a long and prosperous life as an "EX"
> Prez-A-Duntz - Amen ~ RHFhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d0e8ffa087b4fdaf

>  .
>  .
> Agent of the Obama-Regime Recommends Suspending US
> Congressional Elections for the Next Couple of Yearshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d0e8ffa087b4fdaf

>  .
> The "Renewing American Spring" Is Coming...
> In The Fall of 2012 [6th NOV Election]http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/145b6dede6d75e9a
>  .
>  .

Marijuana News Up-Date M4* Mania Dave

* Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]

Phase Two of the Obama-Regime's War on Medical
Marijuana Attack the Advertisers : Newspapers
Magazines and TV & Radio Stations -based-on-
http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/feds-target-newspapers-radio-marijuana-ads-13049

1 - Marijuana is a 'Federal' Illegal Drug

2 - Combined Activities of Individuals and
Business that Promote the Use, Distribution
and Sale of Marijuana are a Joint Criminal
Enterprise -aka- RACKETEERING [RICO]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

3 - The Press : Newspapers Magazines have
been Notified {Warned} to Cease and Desist
Marijuana Advertising
-promoting-illegal-drug-use-&-sales-
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2011/oct/12/feds_threaten_medical_marijuana

4 - TV & Radio Stations have been Notified
{Warned} to Cease and Desist Marijuana
Advertising
-promoting-illegal-drug-use-&-sales-
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2011/oct/12/feds-target-media-for-printing-medicinal-marijuana/
.
.


Obama-Regime Implements Massive Marijuana
[POT] Dispensary Crackdown in California

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3c944a8b8807c691
.
.

dave

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Oct 13, 2011, 9:54:32 AM10/13/11
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:43:33 -0700, RHF wrote:

> 4 - TV & Radio Stations have been Notified {Warned} to Cease and Desist
> Marijuana Advertising

The only thing they can actually threaten are over-the-air broadcasters.
The First Amendment protects the free weekly fishwrap.

John Smith

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Oct 13, 2011, 1:05:44 PM10/13/11
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On 10/13/2011 5:43 AM, RHF wrote:
> On Oct 9, 3:30 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 7, 1:42 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 6, 5:00 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
>>>> chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to_pentagon_budget_/
>>
>>>> Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
>>>> little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
>>>> airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a
>>>> coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the �Wings of
>>>> Liberty Award� was given to Murray �in recognition of her longtime
>>>> support of the aerospace and defense industry,� reads the organization�s

>>>> press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of
>>>> America�s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
>>>> AIA�s Board of Governors, �Senator Murray knows the value of the
>>>> aerospace and defense industry.�
> Magazines and TV& Radio Stations -based-on-

> http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/feds-target-newspapers-radio-marijuana-ads-13049
>
> 1 - Marijuana is a 'Federal' Illegal Drug
>
> 2 - Combined Activities of Individuals and
> Business that Promote the Use, Distribution
> and Sale of Marijuana are a Joint Criminal
> Enterprise -aka- RACKETEERING [RICO]
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
>
> 3 - The Press : Newspapers Magazines have
> been Notified {Warned} to Cease and Desist
> Marijuana Advertising
> -promoting-illegal-drug-use-&-sales-
> http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2011/oct/12/feds_threaten_medical_marijuana
>
> 4 - TV& Radio Stations have been Notified

> {Warned} to Cease and Desist Marijuana
> Advertising
> -promoting-illegal-drug-use-&-sales-
> http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2011/oct/12/feds-target-media-for-printing-medicinal-marijuana/
> .
> .
> Obama-Regime Implements Massive Marijuana
> [POT] Dispensary Crackdown in California
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3c944a8b8807c691
> .
> .

I can say this, after the doctors tried all the possible solutions they
had, my wifes daughter was suggested to try marijuana, by her doctor,
she did, it worked, the very serious seizures were halted.

When I seen this, I immediately tried it for the back pain I experience
from an old motorcycle accident ... I simply don't like to have to
experience the high to alleviate the pain! I really can't drive and
feel as if some other tasks are better NOT done under its' influence.
But, point is it worked ...

So, when "the experts" claim "no medical value", they are simply spewing
shit out of their mouths ... anyone who has taken the time, or just been
forced to look at these issues knows ...

But then, only fools still believe the criminals in the government and
fed ... from the president on down ...

Regards,
JS

First Post

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Oct 13, 2011, 2:04:32 PM10/13/11
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:05:44 -0700, John Smith <bit_b...@gmx.com>
wrote:

>On 10/13/2011 5:43 AM, RHF wrote:
>> On Oct 9, 3:30 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> On Oct 7, 1:42 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 6, 5:00 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
>>>>> chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to_pentagon_budget_/
>>>
>>>>> Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
>>>>> little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
>>>>> airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a

>>>>> coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the �Wings of
>>>>> Liberty Award� was given to Murray �in recognition of her longtime
>>>>> support of the aerospace and defense industry,� reads the organization�s


>>>>> press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of

>>>>> America�s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
>>>>> AIA�s Board of Governors, �Senator Murray knows the value of the
>>>>> aerospace and defense industry.�

Don;t know if you're old enough to remember but if you are, consider
that back in the 60s and 70s the majority of the medical community
were very outspoken against vitamins. I remember one of my own
doctors telling me that vitamin C or B and others were just a waste of
time because if you went to the bathroom you were flushing all thise
vitamins right down the toilet. Why? Because you don't need a doctor
to prescribe a vitamin in order to get it.
The only reason the medical community has relaxed it's negative stance
on nutrition is because of all of the overwhelming undeniable evidence
proving nutrition is beneficial and helpful to human health.

Marijuana has been found to be helpful to Cancer patients, anorexics,
schizophrenics, people with depression, people with sleep disorders
and a host of other ailments.
But the "professionals" aren't going to get rich off of something that
just grows out of the ground.

John Smith

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Oct 13, 2011, 2:20:24 PM10/13/11
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On 10/13/2011 11:04 AM, First Post wrote:

> ...


> Don;t know if you're old enough to remember but if you are, consider
> that back in the 60s and 70s the majority of the medical community
> were very outspoken against vitamins. I remember one of my own
> doctors telling me that vitamin C or B and others were just a waste of
> time because if you went to the bathroom you were flushing all thise
> vitamins right down the toilet. Why? Because you don't need a doctor
> to prescribe a vitamin in order to get it.
> The only reason the medical community has relaxed it's negative stance
> on nutrition is because of all of the overwhelming undeniable evidence
> proving nutrition is beneficial and helpful to human health.
>
> Marijuana has been found to be helpful to Cancer patients, anorexics,
> schizophrenics, people with depression, people with sleep disorders
> and a host of other ailments.
> But the "professionals" aren't going to get rich off of something that
> just grows out of the ground.

From my research and exposure to the drug, I can find little fault with
your statements.

One thing I am firmly certain of, they have been ripping off taxpayers
with all the associated crimes and costs of using our tax payer dollars
against something which is not the danger they portray it as.

Indeed, I have been awakening to the lies, deceit and theft which has
been going on for decades because I was willing to blindly believe the
liars in public servant offices ... THIS HAS CHANGED!

I am outrageously upset with the crooks, from the president on down!

At the very bottom of this "house of cards" is simply that access to
plants, growing on the face of the planet, given to man by God ARE NOT
subject to control by other men for profits!

And, it only gets worse from there ...

Regards,
JS

M_P

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Oct 13, 2011, 3:33:07 PM10/13/11
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On Oct 13, 1:20 pm, John Smith <bit_buc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 10/13/2011 11:04 AM, First Post wrote:

> > Don;t know if you're old enough to remember but if you are, consider
> > that back in the 60s and 70s the majority of the medical community
> > were very outspoken against vitamins.  I remember one of my own
> > doctors telling me that vitamin C or B and others were just a waste of
> > time because if you went to the bathroom you were flushing all thise
> > vitamins right down the toilet.  Why?  Because you don't need a doctor
> > to prescribe a vitamin in order to get it.
> > The only reason the medical community has relaxed it's negative stance
> > on nutrition is because of all of the overwhelming undeniable evidence
> > proving nutrition is beneficial and helpful to human health.
>
> >Marijuana has been found to be helpful to Cancer patients, anorexics,
> > schizophrenics, people with depression, people with sleep disorders
> > and a host of other ailments.
> > But the "professionals" aren't going to get rich off of something that
> > just grows out of the ground.

Not all the professionals have been bought off or intimidated. The
National Academy of Science's Institute of Medicine clearly states the
medical benefits of marijuana.

>  From my research and exposure to the drug, I can find little fault with
> your statements.
>
> One thing I am firmly certain of, they have been ripping off taxpayers
> with all the associated crimes and costs of using our tax payer dollars
> against something which is not the danger they portray it as.

Indeed. The legal drug alcohol is more dangerous by any rational
measure.

> Indeed, I have been awakening to the lies, deceit and theft which has
> been going on for decades because I was willing to blindly believe the
> liars in public servant offices ... THIS HAS CHANGED!
>
> I am outrageously upset with the crooks, from the president on down!
>
> At the very bottom of this "house of cards" is simply that access to
> plants, growing on the face of the planet, given to man by God ARE NOT
> subject to control by other men for profits!

If somebody wants to grow it and sell it for profit, that's their
natural right. And if somebody else wants to grow it for their own
use, or give it away, that's their natural right, as well.

John Smith

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Absolutely, I was referring to the practice of using "criminalization"
to make profits off of God given rights, property, resources and God
sanctioned actions ... as being the crime(s) committed against God and man.

Regards,
JS

Christopher Helms

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It's election time again, and time for Obama to use the power of
government to violently assault about the only thing that's not
turning brown and dying in his economic garden. As a nod to the kook
right, he can take the increased misery caused by grass free
chemotherapy to the convention and show everybody that he doesn't
really give a fuck about human suffering either.

RHF

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On Oct 13, 6:54 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:43:33 -0700, RHF wrote:

- - 4 - TV & Radio Stations have been Notified {Warned}
- - to Cease and Desist Marijuana Advertising

- The only thing they can actually threaten are
- over-the-air broadcasters.
- The First Amendment protects the free weekly fishwrap.

So using your M4* Mania 'Logic' Dave

Someone 'Soliciting' Murder for Hire in a Newspaper
a/o Magazine {fishwrap} is Protected Free Speech.

NAH - It's a Criminal Act and the Root {Nexus}
of a Criminal Conspiracy [.]
-rico- -rico- -rico- -rico- -rico- -rico- -rico- -rico- -rico-
Illegal Drugs =&= Promotion of Illegal Drugs 'For Sale'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

* Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]

-book'em-barack'o- -bust'em-barack'o- -lock'em-up-barack'o-


.
Obama-Regime Implements Massive Marijuana

[POT] Advertising Crackdown in California
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cb4f2b1c595b6a91

RHF

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Oct 13, 2011, 7:46:53 PM10/13/11
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On Oct 13, 10:05 am, John Smith <bit_buc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 10/13/2011 5:43 AM, RHF wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 3:30 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net>  wrote:
> >> On Oct 7, 1:42 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net>  wrote:
>
> >>> On Oct 6, 5:00 am, dave<d...@dave.dave>  wrote:
>
> >>>>http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
> >>>> chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to_pentagon_budget_/
>
> >>>> Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
> >>>> little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
> >>>> airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a
> >>>> coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the “Wings of
> >>>> Liberty Award” was given to Murray “in recognition of her longtime
> >>>> support of the aerospace and defense industry,” reads the organization’s

> >>>> press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of
> >>>> America’s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
> >>>> AIA’s Board of Governors, “Senator Murray knows the value of the
> >>>> aerospace and defense industry.”
> >http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/feds-target-newspapers-radio-m...

>
> > 1 - Marijuana is a 'Federal' Illegal Drug
>
> > 2 - Combined Activities of Individuals and
> > Business that Promote the Use, Distribution
> > and Sale of Marijuana are a Joint Criminal
> > Enterprise -aka- RACKETEERING [RICO]
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organiz...

>
> > 3 - The Press : Newspapers Magazines have
> > been Notified {Warned} to Cease and Desist
> > Marijuana Advertising
> > -promoting-illegal-drug-use-&-sales-
> >http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2011/oct/12/feds_threaten_medical...

>
> > 4 - TV&  Radio Stations have been Notified
> > {Warned} to Cease and Desist Marijuana
> > Advertising
> > -promoting-illegal-drug-use-&-sales-
> >http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2011/oct/12/feds-ta...

> >   .
> >   .
> > Obama-Regime Implements Massive Marijuana
> > [POT] Dispensary Crackdown in California
> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3c944a8b8807c691
> >   .
> >   .
>
> I can say this, after the doctors tried all the possible solutions they
> had, my wifes daughter was suggested to try marijuana, by her doctor,
> she did, it worked, the very serious seizures were halted.
>
> When I seen this, I immediately tried it for the back pain I experience
> from an old motorcycle accident ... I simply don't like to have to
> experience the high to alleviate the pain!  I really can't drive and
> feel as if some other tasks are better NOT done under its' influence.
> But, point is it worked ...
>
> So, when "the experts" claim "no medical value", they are simply spewing
> shit out of their mouths ... anyone who has taken the time, or just been
> forced to look at these issues knows ...
>
> But then, only fools still believe the criminals in the government and
> fed ... from the president on down ...
>
> Regards,
> JS

Truth Be Told Medical-Marijuana has a Great Medical Value
-but- Like All Other Intoxicating & Impairing Drugs and
Medicines : DO NOT DRIVE OR OPERATE MACHINERY
WHILE TAKING THIS MEDICATION -and-or-
UNDER-THE-INFLUENCE OF IT"S EFFECTS [.]
.
Urgent Need To "Drug Test" For Medical-Marijuana
Impairment [DUI] On-the-Road -and- WUI On-the-Job too...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5de5690c712197c4
.
Just like Drunk [DUI] Drivers :
Equally Enforce the Law and Bust the Marijuana
[DUI] Drivers Too... -cause- DUI -is- DUI !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b6752eb8fd3efa81
.
CAMMD :
Citizens Against Medical-Marijuana Drivers
-keep-drug-'impaired'-addicts-off-the-road-
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4a2f9387fa028e81
.
DUI = "Impaired" lacking ability to normally
judge you actions and reasonably control your
actions when behind the wheel of a car/truck.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5f030ea1c28d931b
.
WUI = Working Under the Influence
Don't Go To Work Buzzed* Either :
* Impaired : No matter what the Source may be [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d8e542e6d12ee9fe
Just Say "NO!" To Drugs In The Work Place !
-and- 'Yes' To Drug FREE Work Places :o)
.
again that's how 'i' see it & that's how 'i' feel ~ RHF
-toke-it-dave-but-don't-drive/work-impaired-
.
.

John Smith

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On 10/13/2011 4:46 PM, RHF wrote:
> On Oct 13, 10:05 am, John Smith<bit_buc...@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 10/13/2011 5:43 AM, RHF wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 3:30 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 7, 1:42 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Oct 6, 5:00 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
>>>>>> chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to_pentagon_budget_/
>>
>>>>>> Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
>>>>>> little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
>>>>>> airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a
>>>>>> coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the �Wings of
>>>>>> Liberty Award� was given to Murray �in recognition of her longtime
>>>>>> support of the aerospace and defense industry,� reads the organization�s

>>>>>> press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of
>>>>>> America�s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
>>>>>> AIA�s Board of Governors, �Senator Murray knows the value of the
>>>>>> aerospace and defense industry.�
> -but- Like All Other Intoxicating& Impairing Drugs and
> again that's how 'i' see it& that's how 'i' feel ~ RHF
> -toke-it-dave-but-don't-drive/work-impaired-
> .
> .

when I still drank, I always dreamed of working for Budweiser, Coors,
etc., or a hard booze producer, like Smirnoff ... :-)

I think I would have drank on that job too! <silly grin>

When in college, back in 1970, I worked construction, foreman would
always have an icechest of beer at noon ... other than the odd day when
some idiot would drink too much, and probably get his arse fired, I
don't remember any major problems ... but, now-a-days, the insurance
company would refuse to take your business if you engaged in the
practice ... I am sure there would be a flock of attorneys following
around that beer laden ice chest too!

Regards,
JS


Regards,
JS

John Smith

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On 10/13/2011 4:34 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:
> On Oct 9, 5:30 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 7, 1:42 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 6, 5:00 am, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
>>>> chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to _pentagon_budget_/
>>
>>>> Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
>>>> little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
>>>> airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a
>>>> coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the �Wings of
>>>> Liberty Award� was given to Murray �in recognition of her longtime
>>>> support of the aerospace and defense industry,� reads the organization�s

>>>> press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of
>>>> America�s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
>>>> AIA�s Board of Governors, �Senator Murray knows the value of the
>>>> aerospace and defense industry.�

>>
>>> Hey M4* Mania Dave :
>>> Did You Read The News -and-weep-
>>
>>> * Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]
>>
>>> The IRS Rules That Medical-Marijuana is an
>>> Illegal Drug and Medical-Marijuana 'Stores'
>>> Criminal Enterprises and can NOT Deduct the
>>> Costs of Employee Labor, Rent {expenses} and
>>> may include the Cost of Buying the Product
>>> {Marijuana} for Resale. -tax-it-tax-it-tax-it-
>>> =$100=an=Ounce=Tax=on=Marijuana=http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/irs-hits-oakland-pot-dispensar...
>
>
> It's election time again, and time for Obama to use the power of
> government to violently assault about the only thing that's not
> turning brown and dying in his economic garden. As a nod to the kook
> right, he can take the increased misery caused by grass free
> chemotherapy to the convention and show everybody that he doesn't
> really give a fuck about human suffering either.

I can remember a couple of family members underwent chemo ... we simply
didn't know of the benefits of marijuana then, that it even helped their
appetites, stopped puking, etc. ... too bad, next time I will certainly
suggest it -- to anyone in chemo!

My wifes sister died of cancer, after every possible treatment there was
for her to try ... she swore she would not been able to have extended
her life, if not for the dope ... both doctor pills and marijuana ...

Regards,
JS

RHF

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On Oct 13, 4:59 pm, John Smith <bit_buc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 10/13/2011 4:46 PM, RHF wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 13, 10:05 am, John Smith<bit_buc...@gmx.com>  wrote:
> >> On 10/13/2011 5:43 AM, RHF wrote:
>
> >>> On Oct 9, 3:30 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net>    wrote:
> >>>> On Oct 7, 1:42 am, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net>    wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Oct 6, 5:00 am, dave<d...@dave.dave>    wrote:
>
> >>>>>>http://www.alternet.org/world/152611/supercommittee_co-
> >>>>>> chair_patty_murray_accepts_award_from_defense_industry_as_she_mulls_cuts_to_pentagon_budget_/
>
> >>>>>> Last month, Patty Murray was awarded a bronze statuette featuring a
> >>>>>> little boy with a big smile on his face, running while holding a toy
> >>>>>> airplane aloft. Presented by the Aerospace Industries Association, a
> >>>>>> coalition of more than 300 defense and aerospace firms, the “Wings of
> >>>>>> Liberty Award” was given to Murray “in recognition of her longtime
> >>>>>> support of the aerospace and defense industry,” reads the organization’s

> >>>>>> press release. According to Jim Albaugh, the executive vice president of
> >>>>>> America’s second largest defense contractor, Boeing, and the chairman of
> >>>>>> AIA’s Board of Governors, “Senator Murray knows the value of the
> >>>>>> aerospace and defense industry.”

the ...Way-Back Machine... and a Pail-of-Beer
brought to the Job-Site for those with a Thirst :o)
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRuGVvtNCiUo0t9GZoyWP9Etw5HTKWyfQPaVow5mDFUCIBnh7I
.

John Smith

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On 10/14/2011 2:32 AM, RHF wrote:

> ...


> the ...Way-Back Machine... and a Pail-of-Beer
> brought to the Job-Site for those with a Thirst :o)
> http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRuGVvtNCiUo0t9GZoyWP9Etw5HTKWyfQPaVow5mDFUCIBnh7I
> .

I didn't know there were any old college pics of me still around!

Regards,
JS

J R

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Oct 14, 2011, 6:57:13 PM10/14/11
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I done rigged up a quick and easy cat trap drop box.What it is, I
already have a metal shell that was on my old natural gas floor furnace,
it measures 28 1/2'' by 15'' by 13'' tall.It doesn't have a top and
bottom.I used a piece of screen wire like the kind that are on some of
those so-called front door/guard doors.I attatched the screen wire to
the top of the old furnace shell with some wire.I am going to prop up
the bottom with a stick and have a long string tied to the stick.Then I
will start feeding those feral cats for a few days untill they get used
to going into my cat trap.
YANK the string!,,, Got em!
cuhulin

dxAce

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Oct 14, 2011, 7:15:05 PM10/14/11
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That'll make some darn good B-B-Q !


J R

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Oct 14, 2011, 8:04:41 PM10/14/11
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Or I could use one of my old empty foot lockers.Turn it upside down and
use the stick and string.When those nasty cats go in there and I yank
the string, latch up the foot locker and tote those cats to the Animal
Rescue League.This morning I saw one of those cats going up a tree,
trying to catch a squirrel.
cuhulin

John Smith

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Oct 14, 2011, 10:23:22 PM10/14/11
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When the boat people came from nam to the central valley, in the 1970's,
the wild/lost/abandoned/etc. animal problem became a moot point ... I
have not seen a dog catcher in years, maybe a couple of decades ... but,
I remember all the papers and news, govt. officials claiming it was a
myth that they were eating the dogs, cats, etc. ... in looking back,
that was just the beginning of the lies to come.

Regards,
JS

J R

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Oct 15, 2011, 12:06:01 AM10/15/11
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Just lovely: Call a radio talk show, get recorded by Fumbling Bumbling
Idiots.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com
cuhulin

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