0baMa0's Nazi Straw man: An Old Alinsky Trick
No ObaMao
out tricks of the revolutionary trade.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/obamas_nazi_straw_man_an_old_a.html
~ RHF
-was- 0baMa0's Nazi Straw Man: An Old Alinsky Trick
- The White House is playing one of old Saul Alinsky's
- favorite fake-em-out tricks of the revolutionary trade.
-
- http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/obamas_nazi_straw_man_an_old_a.html
Prez Obama an "Alinskyite" Radical Revolutionary
for Socialist Change
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95cf70171998def8
.
10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/465b7063bc8c7da4
.
Oops - Reading the Obama-Care© Bills :
Is It a Crime ? -cause-
The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
-and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
Name Calling
No - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
? The Obama-Care© Bills : Has Your Senators
and Congressperson Read Them ?
THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
Call-Up your Congresspersons and Senators and
Tell Them : Just Say NO to Obama-Care©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
.
Oops - Quoting Facts from the Obama-Care© Bills :
Is It a Crime ? -cause-
The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
-and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
Name Calling & No Facts
Yeah - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
? The Obama-Care© Bills : Does Your Senators
and Congressperson Know the Facts In Them ?
THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
Call-Up your Congresspersons and Senators and
Tell Them : Just Say NO to Obama-Care©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
.
Oops - Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills :
Is It a Crime ? -cause-
The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
-and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
Name Calling when Asked Questions
Once Again - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
? The Obama-Care© Bills : Can Your Senators and
Congressperson Answer Questions About Them ?
THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
Call-Up your Congresspersons and Senators and
Tell Them : Just Say NO to Obama-Care©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
.
Prez Obama's 'NAZI' Rebuttal is Name Calling :
NOT FACTS - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
? Has Prez Obama Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
.
Nancy Pelosi 'seeing' Swastikas is Name Calling :
NOT FACTS
? Has Nancy Pelosi Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
.
Harry Reid's 'silence' is Fear of the Voters :
FEAR WITH OUT FACTS
? Has Harry Reid Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
.
The Democrat Party of the USA's Liberal-Fascist
Radio and TV Adz is Propagandistic Name Calling :
NOT FACTS
? Has anyone in the Congress Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?
Call-Up your Congresspersons and Senators and
Tell Them : Just Say NO to Obama-Care©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
.
Balancing Obama-Care© Health Care Budget
by Denying Medical Treatment and Services to
America's Senior Citizens [FACT]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3e5903239b5e552d
* By Cutting Social Security Medicare Treatment
to America's Senior Citizens [FACT]
* By Cutting Social Security Medicaid Services
to America's Senior Citizens [FACT]
* Replaced with End-of-Life Counseling for
America's Senior Citizens {Please Just Die
Your Are Living Too Long and Costing Us Too
Much Money to Keep Alive} [FACT]
! Oh the Silence of the ObamaNistas© !
.
.
-Why- Prez Obama should 'can-can' Janet Napolitano
as the Head of the Department of Homeland Security
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/72820be8ac65bd72
.
Prez Obama on Obama-Care© a Case of
. . . Foot-in-the-Mouth Disease ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b79f05f969ab5d99
.
More 'Staged' Town Hall Meetings for Prez Obama
about Obama-Care© packed with Democrat Party
Political Cadre, ACORN Activists and Union Reps.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ec44af5794e081c4
.
Prez Obama Calls-Out the Obama-Thugs© to
Intimidate US Citizens at Town Hall Meetings
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1716c49b1cc55f4b
.
Prez Obama calls upon the Obama-Finks© to
"Monitor" {Spy-On} their fellow American Citizens
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64f4ddecdb147a9d
.
Prez Obama calls-up the Obama-Rats© to
"Report" {Rat-Out} their fellow American Citizens
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e1bd604be82a82fc
.
10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/465b7063bc8c7da4
.
.
dave
>
> 10 Questions on Obama-Care� for Evasive Politicians
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?
cuh...@webtv.net
February!
www.rense.com/general87/accor.htm
cuhulin
~ RHF
> ~ RHF wrote:
>
- - 10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/465b7063bc8c7da4
- Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a
success?
Dave -yes- By God Bless America I Can !
10 Surprising Facts about American Health Care
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
* Oops there are some honest-to-good FACTS
but the only reply will be Name Calling from the
Prez Obama and the Democrat Obama-Bots©
Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills :
? IS IT A CRIME ?
Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bb823c6106816611
.
Prez Obama Remember When Democrats* -claimed-
.
"Since When Has It Been Part of American Patriotism
to Keep Our Mouths Shut?" -a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism"
-a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
"Blind Faith In Bad Leadership Is Not Patriotism"
-a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
But Now We Have 21st Century Liberal-Fascism
and the Enforced Silence of theDemocrat Party
of the USofA
.
yeah - prez obama remember when . . . ~ RHF
democrats were americans 1st
and national socialist 2nd
.
dave - snip & snip & snip & snip
dave - snip & snip & snip
dave - snip & snip
dave - snip
.
~ RHF
> On Aug 13, 5:45 pm, No ObaMao <saltyfishsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> -was- 0baMa0's Nazi Straw Man: An Old Alinsky Trick
> - The White House is playing one of old Saul Alinsky's
> - favorite fake-em-out tricks of the revolutionary trade.
> -
>
> Prez Obama an "Alinskyite" Radical Revolutionary
> .
> 10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicianshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/465b7063bc8c7da4
> .
> Nancy Pelosi 'seeing' Swastikas is Name Calling :
> NOT FACTS
> ? Has Nancy Pelosi Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
.
- FEAR WITH OUT FACTS
- ? Has Harry Reid Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?
- http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
-oops-correction-
Harry Reid's calling Obama-Care© Questioners
and Protesters 'evil-mongers' is that Fear of the
Voters and the Truth :
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/08/13/reid-protesters-are-evil-mongers/
FEAR WITH OUT FACTS or THE TRUTH
? Has Harry Reid Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
-and- Harry Reid Does Not Want You To Read
The Obama-Care© Bills Either
-cause- Harry Reid Fears the Facts and the
Truth About Obama-Care©
-hey- Just may be Harry Reid is the "Evil-Monger"
.
Harry Reid [D-NV] Remember When Democrats* -claimed-
.
"Since When Has It Been Part of American Patriotism
to Keep Our Mouths Shut?" -a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism"
-a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
"Blind Faith In Bad Leadership Is Not Patriotism"
-a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
.
But Now We Have 21st Century Liberal-Fascism
and the Name-Calling of the Democrat Party
of the USofA
.
yeah - harry reid remember when . . . ~ RHF
democrats were americans 1st
and national socialist 2nd
.
.
- The Democrat Party of the USA's Liberal-Fascist
- Radio and TV Adz is Propagandistic Name Calling :
- NOT FACTS
- ? Has anyone in the Congress Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?
- Call-Up your Congresspersons and Senators and
- Tell Them : Just Say NO to Obama-Care©
- http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/0e99a85fda97af18
- .
- Balancing Obama-Care© Health Care Budget
- by Denying Medical Treatment and Services to
- America's Senior Citizens [FACT]
- http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3e5903239b5e552d
- * By Cutting Social Security Medicare Treatment
- to America's Senior Citizens [FACT]
- * By Cutting Social Security Medicaid Services
- to America's Senior Citizens [FACT]
- * Replaced with End-of-Life Counseling for
- America's Senior Citizens {Please Just Die
- Your Are Living Too Long and Costing Us Too
- Much Money to Keep Alive} [FACT]
- ! Oh the Silence of the ObamaNistas© !
- .
- .
> -Why- Prez Obama should 'can-can' Janet Napolitano
> as the Head of the Department of Homeland Securityhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/72820be8ac65bd72
> .
> Prez Obama on Obama-Care© a Case of
> . . . Foot-in-the-Mouth Disease ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b79f05f969ab5d99
> .
> More 'Staged' Town Hall Meetings for Prez Obama
> about Obama-Care© packed with Democrat Party
> Political Cadre, ACORN Activists and Union Reps.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ec44af5794e081c4
> .
> Prez Obama Calls-Out the Obama-Thugs© to
> Intimidate US Citizens at Town Hall Meetingshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1716c49b1cc55f4b
> .
> Prez Obama calls upon the Obama-Finks© to
> "Monitor" {Spy-On} their fellow American Citizenshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64f4ddecdb147a9d
> .
> Prez Obama calls-up the Obama-Rats© to
> "Report" {Rat-Out} their fellow American Citizenshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e1bd604be82a82fc
dave
> On Aug 14, 5:42 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>> ~ RHF wrote:
>>
> - - 10 Questions on Obama-Care� for Evasive Politicians
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/465b7063bc8c7da4
>
> - Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a
> success?
>
> Dave -yes- By God Bless America I Can !
>
> 10 Surprising Facts about American Health Care
> http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
How can you call it successful if a major illness can cause you to lose
your house?
WQGT447
Or that an insurance company can unilaterally decide to drop your
coverage if they think you are too sick? That's not what **I** paid
for...
John Barnard
cuh...@webtv.net
I remember when Guarantees really meant something.If you bought
something and you weren't satisfied for whatever reason, you could take
it back and get your money back, No Questions asked!.Along came
Warranties, Warranties with all kinds of Loopholes!
Am I lieing?
cuhulin
dave
I'm almost as ancient as you, and aside from Craftsman tools, McIntosh
amps, and Zippo lighters, I can't think of anything with a
no-questions-asked lifetime guarantee.
cuh...@webtv.net
and also some old weird lookin ash trays, and also an old ash tray stand
which has a Greyhound Dog for a handle.Some of those old thingys like
that are Very Collectible nowadays.
www.shopgoodwill.com
Shop Salvation Army thrift stores.
Shop the junk shops and thrift stores and flea markets and yard sales.
I did all of that many years ago when the buying was Good.
Sir/Mam, may I interest you in an inshorance policy which has a Lifetime
Guarantee?
cuhulin
Brenda Ann
"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
news:4a89c626$0$22054$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...
I remember Radio Shack "Lifetime" tubes.. a lifetime warrantee that simply
vanished when it became inconvenient to continue it.
cuh...@webtv.net
ten or twelve at the Wal Mart store.Use em up and throw them away.
It's a disposable World out there.
cuhulin
jf...@my-deja.com
> I remember Radio Shack "Lifetime" tubes.. a lifetime warrantee that simply
> vanished when it became inconvenient to continue it.
warranty. However, the replacement tubes. in general, will not have
the same guarantee. Most RS managers know about this policy, but some
of the newer cellphone pushers may not.
cuh...@webtv.net
www.worldnetdaily.com
Fifty two years ago, Hawaii was a Territory, not a U.S.State.
cuhulin
~ RHF
JB,
The French - Social Insurance System sounds
half-way good at least for these points . . .
1 - "All Legal Residents Covered {Illegals Are Not
Covered} by Public Health Insurance that is Funded
by Compulsory Social Health Insurance Contributions
from both Employers and Employees with
NO OPTION TO OPT OUT."
2 - "Most people have EXTRA {Supplemental} Private
Insurance to cover areas that are not eligible for
reimbursement by the Public Health Insurance System;
and many {Can} make Out-of-Pocket Payments
to see a Doctor; thus bypassing waiting lines
and delays for Medical Treatment."
JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA-CARE© and to
Prez Obama's Obama-Care© "End-of-Life"
{Ending-Your-Life} Counseling :
* It's Euthanasia Targeting Senior Citizens
* It's Eugenics Targeting Senior Citizens
* It's Planned Genocide Targeting Senior Citizens
with a Denial of Health Care and Medical Treatment
of America's Senior Citizens.
.
~ RHF
- On Aug 14, 5:42 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:> ~ RHF wrote:
-
- - - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/465b7063bc8c7da4
-
- - Can you name one large country where "for profit"
- - health care is a success?
-
- Dave -yes- By God Bless America I Can !
-
- 10 Surprising Facts about American Health Care
- http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
- * Oops there are some honest-to-good FACTS
- but the only reply will be Name Calling from the
- Prez Obama and the Democrat Obama-Bots©
-
- Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills :
- ? IS IT A CRIME ?
- Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
- Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?
- http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bb823c6106816611
- .
Ask Prez Obama :
Why isn't Tort Reform part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform
Ask Your US Congressperson __________ :
Why isn't Tort Reform part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform
Ask Your US Senator __________ :
Why isn't Tort Reform part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform
Can Rahm Emanuel answer :
Why Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform
Can Nancy-Ann DeParle - Prez Obama's
Health-Care CZAR answer :
Why Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform
Can Prez Obama's HHS Secretary Kathleen
Sebelius answer :
Why Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform
Can the AARP Leadership answer :
Why Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/18/aarp-losing-members-health-care-faces-challenge-grassroots-senior-advocacy/
-
60,000 of America's Senior Citizens have Quit
the AARP since July 1 2009 due to the AARP's
support for Obama-Care© with it's reduction in
Medicare Benefits and Coverage.
American Seniors Association (ASA) can tell you
?WHY? Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© !
http://www.americanseniors.org/
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=112055&cat=5
.
change for change's sake - ain't reform ~ RHF
.
.
- Prez Obama Remember When Democrats* -claimed-
- .
- "Since When Has It Been Part of American Patriotism
- to Keep Our Mouths Shut?" -a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
- .
- "Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism"
- -a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
- .
- "Blind Faith In Bad Leadership Is Not Patriotism"
- -a-la- Hillary Clinton 2006
- .
- But Now We Have 21st Century Liberal-Fascism
- and the Enforced Silence of the Democrat Party
- of the USofA
-> .
- yeah - prez obama remember when . . . ~ RHF
- democrats were americans 1st
- and national socialist 2nd
- .
- dave - snip & snip & snip & snip
- dave - snip & snip & snip
- dave - snip & snip
- dave - snip
- .
dave
> -> .
> - yeah - prez obama remember when . . . ~ RHF
> - democrats were americans 1st
> - and national socialist 2nd
> - .
> - dave - snip & snip & snip & snip
> - dave - snip & snip & snip
> - dave - snip & snip
> - dave - snip
> - .
I don't think you people are aware that you are stirring up some very
ugly dust and that the road you are trying to push the country down ends
badly. If I were you I'd try to follow the money, and figure out what
is motivating the people who are lying to you.
Which makes more sense, that the fat cats are trying to stay in power
and the Dems are working to make the future better
or
that the insurance companies love you and the dems want complete control
of your lives.
~ RHF
> ~ RHF wrote:
> > -> .
> > - yeah - prez obama remember when . . . ~ RHF
> > - democrats were americans 1st
> > - and national socialist 2nd
> > - .
> > - dave - snip & snip & snip & snip
> > - dave - snip & snip & snip
> > - dave - snip & snip
> > - dave - snip
> > - .
>
> I don't think you people are aware that you are stirring up some very
> ugly dust and that the road you are trying to push the country down ends
> badly. If I were you I'd try to follow the money, and figure out what
> is motivating the people who are lying to you.
- Which makes more sense, that the fat cats
- are trying to stay in power and the Dems are
- working to make the future better
Dave that's more Obama-Bot© Obama-Speak©
- or
- that the insurance companies love you and the
- dems want complete control of your lives.
Dave - yada, Yada. YADA !
Dave - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64bb18fca8797de6
Dave - "Tort Reform" ain't Democrat or Republican
* Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering with a Annual COLA
* Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run Patient's
Advocacy Panel {Salaried} : Local Health Commissioner
& Medical Expert/Doctor & Patient's Advocate
* Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}
* Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}
Dave - "Tort Reform" ain't about Insurance Companies
loving you or me.
Dave - "Tort Reform" ain't about the Democrats or
Republicans Controlling your Life or Medical Care.
Dave - "Tort Reform" is about getting the Lawyers
out of Medical Health Care for All Americans.
Dave - "Tort Reform" is about Cutting Medical Costs
for All Americans.
Dave - "Tort Reform" is Real REFORM of the American
Health Care System for All Americans.
idtars ~ RHF
.
Basic
> ~ RHF wrote:
>> - snip & snip & snip
>
> I don't think you people are aware that you are stirring up some very
> ugly dust and that the road you are trying to push the country down ends
> badly.
Maybe ends up in another revolution,
and is why there are such vigorous gun sales these days?
Funny thing is that a large portion of the loudmouths wouldn't survive a
massive violent social condlict but would be eaten alive by the hoards
they now exhort to violence.
> If I were you I'd try to follow the money,
RHF can only follow the bloviation of Limbaugh
> and figure out
> what is motivating the people who are lying to you.
Huh?
RHF figure out anything on his own?
> Which makes more sense,
> that the fat cats are trying to stay in power
> and the Dems are working to make the future better
Sounds like the version the American public has finally come to believe.
> or
>
> that the insurance companies love you
> and the dems want complete control of your lives.
That sounds like the last bleatings of a dying oligarchy,
as espoused by talk show loudmouths.
dave
>
> Dave - yada, Yada. YADA !
>
> Dave - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
> a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care� ? :
> Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care� ?
There is no such thing as Obama Care.
Why do you shill for giant multinational corporations? What did they
ever do for you?
"Tort reform is a term propagated by companies -- such as those in the
tobacco and asbestos industries -- vulnerable to legal actions seeking
damages for the impacts of their products. Proponents use the term to
refer to legislative measures designed to limit the ability and
potential damages available to individuals who take legal actions
against companies."
-sourcewatch
~ RHF
> ~ RHF wrote:
> >"Tort Reform" ain't about Insurance Companies
> >loving you or me.
>
> responsibilities that lawsuits are able to address.
Bob Dobbs -real- "Tort Reform"
1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
Local City/County Patient's Advocate
2 - Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}
3 - Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}
4 - Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering that is
'adjusted' yearly for inflation
.
- RHF is a loyal toady for big corporate fascism.
Bob Dobbs -spoken-like- a lacky of the
Legal-Fascististas -aka- The Lawyers .
The first thing the Communists do when they
Seize Power is round-up All the Lawyers and
give them "End-of-Life Counseling" ;;--}} ~ RHF
.
.
> --
>
> Operator Bob
> Echo Charlie 42
OB - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64bb18fca8797de6
.
~ RHF
> ~ RHF wrote:
>
> > Dave - yada, Yada. YADA !
>
> > Dave - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
> > a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
> > Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
>
Dave denying that Obama-Care© is a real Bill
that is processing through the US Congress
does not change the 'fact' that Obama-Care©
is in the Making and can become Law with
the Signature of . . . Prez Obama {Obama-Care©}
.
Dave- Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64bb18fca8797de6
.
>
> Why do you shill for giant multinational corporations?
Dave - I speak-up for each American Citizens
Right to 'Choose' their own Health Care and
NOT be forced into Obama-Care©.
Dave - I speak-up for each American Senior US
Citizens Right to 'Full' Medicare Benefits and
Treatment; and NOT have them Cut-in-Half to
Balance the Governments Health Care Budget
to pay for Obama-Care©.
- What did they ever do for you?
Provided me with Quality Affordable Health Care
Insurance for all of my Working Life which I had
to Pay for with each Pay Check and still Pay for
with Each Retirement Check.
- "Tort reform is a term propagated by companies
- such as those in the tobacco and asbestos industries
- vulnerable to legal actions seeking damages for
- the impacts of their products. Proponents use the
- term to refer to legislative measures designed to
- limit the ability and potential damages available
- to individuals who take legal actions against
- companies."
- sourcewatch
Dave that's an Obama-Bot© Daily Talking Point
website for copying and pasting Obama-Speak©.
Dave -here-is-real- "Tort Reform" for Health Care :
1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
Local City/County Patient's Advocate
2 - Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}
3 - Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}
4 - Yearly Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering
that is 'adjusted' yearly for inflation
.
“The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” -versus- Obama-Care© :
Giving Americans The Right To 'Choose' !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/626026f0b6b74b73
Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama
that Americans have the Right to a 'Choice' in
Health Care.
.
prez obama americans have the right to
a 'tort reform' as part of health care ~ RHF
.
~ RHF
Basic - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64bb18fca8797de6
.
Basic - “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” -versus-
Obama-Care© : Giving Americans The Right To 'Choose' !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/626026f0b6b74b73
Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama that
Americans have the Right to a 'Choice' in Health Care.
.
Basic -here-is-real- "Tort Reform" for Health Care :
1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
Local City/County Patient's Advocate
2 - Full Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}
3 - Disability Payments Covered
and Job Retraining {If Awarded}
4 - Yearly Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering
that is 'adjusted' yearly for inflation {If Awarded}
.
prez obama americans have the right to
dave
> On Aug 19, 12:54 pm, Bob Dobbs <chupaca...@operamail.com> wrote:
>> ~ RHF wrote:
>>> "Tort Reform" ain't about Insurance Companies
>>> loving you or me.
>> "Tort Reform" is about Insurance Companies ignoring the basic
>> responsibilities that lawsuits are able to address.
>
> Bob Dobbs -real- "Tort Reform"
>
> 1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
> Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
> Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
> Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
> Local City/County Patient's Advocate
>
> 2 - Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}
>
> 3 - Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}
>
> 4 - Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering that is
> 'adjusted' yearly for inflation
> .
>
change their behavior, companies will just add the cost of getting sued
to their prices. If you want them to stop killing people, you have to
really hurt them.
I say that if a corporation wants the rights of a person then the
principals of said corporation should be subject to criminal prosecution
and imprisonment.
You make it sound like all people are suing to get rich. It's not nearly
that simple.
Why are so proud to be a dumbass? Herding instinct? Sarah Palin's
voluptuous ass? C'mon Roy, give us a reason you hate America.
Basic
I don't speak for Mr Dobbs (J R 'Bob' Dobbs)
but will try to answer your questions until he returns
> OB - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer a Simple Honest
> Question About Obama-Care© ?
Probably not as there isn't any such thing. It's just a silly term you
wingers coined to refer to that which you either can't comprehend or are
so hypnotized by your master Rush that you refuse to examine.
> : Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of
> Obama-Care© ?
Tort law could, and probably should, be strengthened to permit better
redress of wrongdoing, but it's not part of the current health coverage
reform so badly needed.
"Tort Reform" Is only a distraction
by shills for the corporate fascists.
cuh...@webtv.net
cuh...@webtv.net
married Irish woman wayyyyy over yonder across the big pond,,, her dad
went to Limerick,Ireland to visit some relatives friends.As soon as he
got to Limerick he wound up in Dooradoyl Hospital, enlarged prostate
gland which was about to burst.The surgeons at Dooradoyle couldn't
understand why the Brit docs in Bognor Regis,England had told him it was
ok for him to go to Ireland.
I still have the email that married Irish woman sent me years ago, all
about what happened to her dad.
The Brits have two seperate vaccines, one kind for the Brits, the other
one for the Irish.
I HATE ALL Brits! PERIOD!
cuhulin
~ RHF
> ~ RHF wrote:
> > On Aug 19, 12:54 pm, Bob Dobbs <chupaca...@operamail.com> wrote:
> >> ~ RHF wrote:
> >>> "Tort Reform" ain't about Insurance Companies
> >>> loving you or me.
> >> "Tort Reform" is about Insurance Companies ignoring the basic
> >> responsibilities that lawsuits are able to address.
>
> > Bob Dobbs -real- "Tort Reform"
>
> > 1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
> > Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
> > Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
> > Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
> > Local City/County Patient's Advocate
>
> > 2 - Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}
>
> > 3 - Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}
>
> > 4 - Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering that is
> > 'adjusted' yearly for inflation
> > .
- You miss the point.
Dave the point is Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
-If it's cheaper to lose lawsuits than it is to change
- their behavior, companies will just add the cost of
- getting sued to their prices.
Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
- If you want them to stop killing people,
- you have to really hurt them.
Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
- I say that if a corporation wants the rights of a
- person then the principals of said corporation
- should be subject to criminal prosecution
- and imprisonment.
Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
- You make it sound like all people are suing to
- get rich. It's not nearly that simple.
Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
- Why are so proud to be a dumbass?
Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
- Herding instinct?
Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
- Sarah Palin's voluptuous ass?
Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Sexual Fantasy :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
- C'mon Roy, give us a reason you hate America.
Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
Dave i can honest say : God {Allah} Bless the USA and
All Americans - Amen {can you - oh the silence} ~ RHF
.
Dave - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64bb18fca8797de6
.
Dave - “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” -versus-
Obama-Care© : Giving Americans The Right To 'Choose' !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/626026f0b6b74b73
Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama that
Americans have the Right to a 'Choice' in Health Care.
.
Dave -here-is-real- "Tort Reform" for Health Care :
1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
Local City/County Patient's Advocate
2 - Full Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}
3 - Disability Payments Covered along with
~ RHF
Basic "Tort Reform" and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System will improve
Health Care in the USA.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell Them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
Basic - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64bb18fca8797de6
.
Basic - “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” -versus-
Obama-Care© : Giving Americans The Right To 'Choose' !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/626026f0b6b74b73
Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama that
Americans have the Right to a 'Choice' in Health Care.
.
Dave -here-is-real- "Tort Reform" for Health Care :
1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
Local City/County Patient's Advocate
2 - Full Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}
3 - Disability Payments Covered along with
Job Retraining {If Awarded}
4 - Yearly Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering
that is 'adjusted' yearly for inflation {If Awarded}
.
prez obama americans have the right to
'tort reform' as part of health care ~ RHF
.
CALL Your Senators and Congresspersons
-Tell Them- Just Say NO to Obama-Care©
and Yes to “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,”
which is real Health Care Reform which includes
Tort Reform and All American Freedom of 'Choice'
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/309494572b981635
Not the Force Cohesion of Obama-Care© Big
Government Controlled {No Options or Choices}
with it's End-of-Life Counseling as the Final Solution.
.
~ RHF
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:46:09 -0700, ~ RHF wrote:
> > Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama that Americans have the Right
> > to a 'Choice' in Health Care.
> > .
>
- regarding health care back in November, only corporate lackeys like
you
- refuse to accept the results of the American democratic system and
- persist in your futile efforts to distract the process. Congress
hears
- the public's frustration and is about to pull the plug on your
tactics.
The BIG LIE - Recent Poll reveals that Americans Trust
their Insurance Companies 51% over Obama-Care©
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© !
Toxic - CALL Your Senators and Congresspersons
-Tell Them- Just Say NO to Obama-Care©
and Yes to “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,”
which is real Health Care Reform which includes
Tort Reform and All American Freedom of 'Choice'
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/309494572b981635
Not the Force Cohesion of Obama-Care© Big
Government Controlled {No Options or Choices}
with it's End-of-Life Counseling as the Final Solution.
Toxic - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/64bb18fca8797de6
.
Toxic - “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” -versus-
n9zas
~ RHF;686385 Wrote:
> On Aug 19, 6:14*pm, dave d...@dave.dave wrote:-
> ~ RHF wrote:-
> On Aug 19, 12:54 pm, Bob Dobbs chupaca...@operamail.com wrote:-
> ~ RHF wrote:
> "Tort Reform" ain't about Insurance Companies
> loving you or me.
> "Tort Reform" is about Insurance Companies ignoring the basic
> -
> Bob Dobbs -real- "Tort Reform"-
> -
> 1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
> Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
> Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
> Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
> -
> 2 - Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}-
> -
> 3 - Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}-
> -
> 4 - Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering that is
> 'adjusted' yearly for inflation
>
> - You miss the point. *
>
> Dave the point is Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
> from the Medical Health Care System.
> Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
> Just Say NO to Obama-Care� and Yes to �The
> Patients� Choice Act of 2009,� which is real Health
> Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
>
> -If it's cheaper to lose lawsuits than it is to change
> - their behavior, companies will just add the cost of
> - getting sued to their prices.
>
> Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
> from the Medical Health Care System.
> Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
> Just Say NO to Obama-Care� and Yes to �The
> Patients� Choice Act of 2009,� which is real Health
> Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
>
>
> Dave that's Obama-Bot� Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
> Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
> Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
> Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
> Just Say NO to Obama-Care� and Yes to �The
> Patients� Choice Act of 2009,� which is real Health
> Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
>
> - Herding instinct?
>
> Dave that's Obama-Bot� Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
> Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
> Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
> Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
> Just Say NO to Obama-Care� and Yes to �The
> Patients� Choice Act of 2009,� which is real Health
> Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
>
>
> Dave that's Obama-Bot� Liberal-Fascist Sexual Fantasy :
> Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
> Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
> Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
> Just Say NO to Obama-Care� and Yes to �The
> Patients� Choice Act of 2009,� which is real Health
> Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
>
>
> Dave that's Obama-Bot� Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
> Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
> Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
> Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
> Just Say NO to Obama-Care� and Yes to �The
> Patients� Choice Act of 2009,� which is real Health
> Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.
>
> Dave i can honest say : God {Allah} Bless the USA and
> All Americans - Amen {can you - oh the silence} ~ RHF
RHF THIS is the WRONG forum!!!! DO NOT post polotics here!!!!!
--
n9zas
~ RHF
so... why didn't you post this to dave first
or to any of the other 25 posts made by
'others' - silencing one is to silence all ~ RHF
.
Bushcraftgregg
> On Aug 20, 12:52 pm, Toxic <n...@home.tv> wrote:> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:46:09 -0700, ~ RHF wrote:
> > > Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama that Americans have the Right
> > > to a 'Choice' in Health Care.
> > > .
>
> - The American public has overwhelmingly expressed their sentiments
> - regarding health care back in November, only corporate lackeys like
> you
> - refuse to accept the results of the American democratic system and
<snipped>
I've heard both sides of it, almost to the point that I don't know
what to believe. Me personally, something just doesn't sound
right.
I asked my doctor about it yesterday and without pause he said
"it won't be good for the physicians but more importantly it will be
bad
for my patients." I don't trust much of anyone when it comes to people
in any positions of power, I've seen just about everyone in my
personal
life abuse that power in some way or another....some just worse than
others.
But I do know this much, as for my doctor, he's only been my doctor
for almost two years now and I've never caught him bullcrapping me,
he's always been honest with me even though at times I haven't
agreed with him, he always done what was best for me. Just my
take on it FWIW.
~ RHF
BCG,
What your Doctor did not say in plain english
was -if- your are paying via Medicare once
Obama-Care© is Law : The Doctor would be
able {afford} to Treat You as a Medicare Patient
cause the Doctor would lose to much Money
with each and every Medicare Patient; with all
the reductions in Medicare Paid Fees that
would be mandated by Obama-Care© as a
so-called Saving to Balance the Obama-Care©
Budget by Denying Medical Treatment of
America's Senior Citizens and offering them
End-of-Life {Ending-Your-Life} Counseling.
obama-care© coming to a us senior citizen
grave-yard near you ~ RHF
.