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REAGAN, "There is no right to strike against the public safety by anybody, anywhere, any time."

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∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

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In August of 1981, 48 hours before 11,345 PATCO union workers were
fired, President Reagan quoted President Coolidge,

"There is no right to strike against the public safety by anybody,
anywhere, any time." - Calvin Coolidge, 1919

http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/history/2004/reagan_patco.html
_________________________________________________________________

Now let me set the historical stage for Ronald Reagan's 1980 Labor Day
speech.

The public unions, leftist media and leftist bloggers are so desperate
they are intent on the use of propaganda lies by distorting facts and
claiming President Reagan "loves" unions - LOL!

The following text of the speech is what the public unions and
leftists quote:

[...] "These are the values inspiring those brave workers in Poland.
[A sentance referencing Communism is deleted here.] They remind us
that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden,
freedom is lost."[...]

As Presdient Reagan often said, "Well", let us learn the state at that
time (1980) of the largest union, AFL-CIO.

AFL-CIO The American Federation of Labor – Congress of Industrial
Organizations (AFL-CIO)

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7507
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/AFL-CIO

is the largest labor federation in America, consisting of 57
autonomous and international unions. For decades, under the leadership
of George Meany and Lane Kirkland, this entity was a bastion of anti-
communism. In fact, Meany invited Alexandre Solzhenitsyn to speak at
AFL-CIO meetings and brought awareness of Soviet human rights abuses
to U.S. audiences. Kirkland, for his part, used his power to funnel
more than $6 million in aid to Polish workers — aid that was
instrumental in Solidarity’s successful effort to end 50 years of
Communist Party rule in Poland.

But after Lane Kirkland’s retirement in 1995, John Sweeney

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2009
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/John_J._Sweeney

became president of the AFL-CIO and was able to repeal an AFL-CIO rule
prohibiting Communists from being leaders of its member unions.
Abandoning the blue-color industrial unionism of the past, Sweeney, a
member of Democratic Socialists of America,

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6428
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Democratic_Socialists_of_America

was instrumental in remaking labor into a movement of the Left. With
George Meany heading the AFL-CIO, the New Left saw the labor movement
as what it termed a reactionary institution, in which workers
supported the very forces that oppressed them, leaving the forces of
change emanating only from the black underclass the
“lumpenproletariat” [rag proletariat] in Marxist jargon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat

and students who were their natural allies. But today’s Left went back
in inspiration to the 1930s, and like the Communists and Socialists of
that era, once again sought to forge a new partnership between student
radicals and the labor movement. Their hopes broadened once Lane
Kirkland’s post-Meany leadership dissolved, and the AFL-CIO went into
the hands of John Sweeney and his associates, who staffed the upper
echelons of the new staff positions with graduates of the 60s Left.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2009

Now read President Reagan's speech in its entirety below and enjoy
your personal feeling of delight in having learned how pathetically
desperate the lying public unions and the left have become:
_________________________________________________________________

President Ronald Reagan: Labor Day Speech at Liberty State Park,
Jersey City, New Jersey

September 1, 1980

It is fitting that on Labor Day, we meet beside the waters of New York
harbor, with the eyes of Miss Liberty on our gathering and in the
words of the poet whose lines are inscribed at her feet, “The air
bridged harbor that twin cities frame.”

Through this “Golden Door,” under the gaze of that “Mother of Exiles,”
have come millions of men and women, who first stepped foot on
American soil right there, on Ellis Island, so close to the Statue of
Liberty.

These families came here to work. They came to build. Others came to
America in different ways, from other lands, under different, often
harrowing conditions, but this place symbolizes what they all managed
to build, no matter where they came from or how they came or how much
they suffered.

They helped to build that magnificent city across the river. They
spread across the land building other cities and towns and incredibly
productive farms.

They came to make America work. They didn’t ask what this country
could do for them but what they could do to make this refuge the
greatest home of freedom in history.

They brought with them courage, ambition and the values of family,
neighborhood, work, peace and freedom. They came from different lands
but they shared the same values, the same dream.

Today a President of the United States would have us believe that
dream is over or at least in need of change.

Jimmy Carter’s Administration tells us that the descendants of those
who sacrificed to start again in this land of freedom may have to
abandon the dream that drew their ancestors to a new life in a new
land.

The Carter record is a litany of despair, of broken promises, of
sacred trusts abandoned and forgotten.

Eight million out of work. Inflation running at 18 percent in the
first quarter of 1980. Black unemployment at about 14 percent, higher
than any single year since the government began keeping separate
statistics. Four straight major deficits run up by Carter and his
friends in Congress. The highest interest rates since the Civil War--
reaching at times close to 20 percent--lately down to more than 11
percent but now going up again--productivity falling for six straight
quarters among the most productive people in history.

Through his inflation he has raised taxes on the American people by 30
percent--while their real income has risen only 20 percent. He
promised he would not increase taxes for the low and middle-income
people--the workers of America. Then he imposed on American families
the largest single tax increase in history.

His answer to all of this misery? He tries to tell us that we are
“only” in a recession, not a depression, as if definitions—words--
relieve our suffering.

Let it show on the record that when the American people cried out for
economic help, Jimmy Carter took refuge behind a dictionary. Well if
it’s a definition he wants, I’ll give him one. A recession is when
your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose yours.
Recovery is when Jimmy Carter loses his.

I have talked with unemployed workers all across this country. I have
heard their views on what Jimmy Carter has done to them and their
families.

They aren’t interested in semantic quibbles. They are out of work and
they know who put them out of work. And they know the difference
between a recession and a depression.

Let Mr. Carter go to their homes, look their children in the eye and
argue with them that in is “only” a recession that put dad or mom out
of work.

Let him go to the unemployment lines and lecture those workers who
have been betrayed on what is the proper definition for their
widespread economic misery.

Human tragedy, human misery, the crushing of the human spirit. They
do not need defining--they need action.

And it is action, in the form of jobs, lower taxes, and an expanded
economy that -- as President -- I intend to provide.

Call this human tragedy whatever you want. Whatever it is, it is
Jimmy Carter’s. He caused it. He tolerates it. And he is going to
answer to the American people for it.

Last week, more than three years after be became President, he finally
came up with what he calls a new economic program. It is his 5th new
economic program in 3 ½ years. He talks as if someone else has been
in charge these past few years. With two months to go until the
election he rides to the rescue now with a crazy-quilt of obvious
election-year promises which he’ll ask Congress for--next year. After
three years of neglect, the misery of unemployment, inflation, high
taxes, dwindling earning power and inability to save--after all this,
American workers have now been discovered by this administration.

Well it won’t work. It is cynical. It is political. And it is too
late. The damage is done and every American family knows who did it.

In 1976 he said he would never use unemployment as an economic tool to
fight inflation. In 1980 he called for an increase in unemployment--
to fight inflation.

In 1976 he said he would bring unemployment and inflation down to 3
percent.

Who can believe him? Unemployment is now around 8 percent, inflation
is 12 ½.

And most of us have begun to realize that so long as Carter policies
are in effect, the next four years will be as dark as the last four.

But here, beside the torch that many times before in our nation’s
history has cast a golden light in times of gloom, I pledge to you
I’ll bring a new message of hope to all America.

I look forward to meeting Mr. Carter in debate, confronting him with
the whole sorry record of his Administration--the record he prefers
not to mention. If he ever finally agrees to the kind of first debate
the American people want--which I’m beginning to doubt--he’ll answer
to them and to me.

This country needs a new administration, with a renewed dedication to
the dream of America--an administration that will give that dream new
life and make America great again!

Restoring and revitalizing that dream will take bold action.

On this day, dedicated to American working men and women, may I tell
you the vision I have of a new administration and of a new Congress,
filled with new members dedicated to the values we honor today?

Beginning in January of 1981, American workers will once again be
heeded. Their needs and values will be acted upon in Washington. I
will consult with representatives of organized labor on those matters
concerning the welfare of the working people of this nation.

I happen to be the only president of a union ever to be a candidate
for President of the United States.

As president of my union -- the Screen Actors Guild -- I spent many
hours with the late George Meany, whose love of this country and whose
belief in a strong defense against all totalitarians is one of labor’s
greatest legacies. One year ago today on Labor Day George Meany told
the American people:

“As American workers and their families return from their summer
vacations they face growing unemployment and inflation, a climate of
economic anxiety and uncertainty.”

Well I pledge to you in his memory that the voice of the American
worker will once again be heeded in Washington and that the climate of
fear that he spoke of will no longer threaten workers and their
families.

When we talk about tax reduction, when we talk about ending inflation
by stopping it where it starts -- in Washington -- we are talking
about a way to bring labor and management together for America. We
are talking about jobs, and productivity and wages. We are talking
about doing away with Jimmy Carter’s view of a no-growth policy, and
ever-shrinking economic pie with smaller pieces for each of us.

That’s no answer. We can have a bigger pie with bigger slices for
everyone. I believe that together you and I can bake that bigger
pie. We can make that dream that brought so many of us or our parents
and grandparents to this land live once more.

Let us work to protect the human right to acquire and own a home, and
make sure that that right is extended to as many Americans as
possible. A home is part of that dream.

I want to work in Washington to roll back the crushing burden of
taxation that limits investment, production, and the generation of
real wealth for our people. A job, and savings, and hope for our
children is part of that dream.

I want to help Americans of every race, creed and heritage keep and
build that sense of community which is at the heart of America, for a
decent neighborhood is part of that dream.

We will work to strengthen the small business sector which creates
most of the new jobs we need for our people. Small business needs
relief from government paperwork, relief from over-regulation, relief
from a host of governmentally-created problems that defeat the effort
of creative men and women. A chance to invest, build and produce new
wealth is part of the dream.

But restoring the American dream requires more than restoring a sound,
productive economy, vitally important as that is. It requires a
return to spiritual and moral values, values so deeply held by those
who came here to build a new life. We need to restore those values in
our daily life, in our neighborhoods and in our government’s dealings
with the other nations of the world.

These are the values inspiring those brave workers in Poland. The
values that have inspired other dissidents under Communist
domination. They remind us that where free unions and collective
bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost. They remind us that
freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. You
and I must protect and preserve freedom here or it will not be passed
on to our children. Today the workers in Poland are showing a new
generation not how high is the price of freedom but how much it is
worth that price.

I want more than anything I’ve ever wanted, to have an administration
that will, through its actions, at home and in the international
arena, let millions of people know that Miss Liberty still “Lifts her
lamp beside the golden door.” Through our international broadcasting
stations -- the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, and the others --
let us send, loud and clear, the message that this generation of
Americans intends to keep that lamp shining; that this dream, this
last best hope of man on earth, this nation under God, shall not
perish from the earth. We will instead carry on the building of an
American economy that once again holds forth real opportunity for all,
we shall continue to be a symbol of freedom and guardian of the
eternal values that so inspired those who came to this port of entry.

Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we
can, and so help us God, we will make America great again.

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/9.1.80.html

Christopher Helms

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On Mar 19, 2:49 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In August of 1981, 48 hours before 11,345 PATCO union workers were
> fired, President Reagan quoted President Coolidge,
>
> "There is no right to strike against the public safety by anybody,
> anywhere, any time." - Calvin Coolidge, 1919


And the kook right has been in love with authoritarianism ever since.
Never mind that the whole fucking thing could have been avoided by not
making Boston police officers work 18 hour days for peanuts.

∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

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LOL! Yet another Fascist Union Liberal Idiot JackAss parroting
twisted Communist Party propaganda lies.

You can't hide in your closet any longer.
We all know how Marxists like you must confuse the ignorant masses
with twisted lies in order to win them over.

Give it up! - Even your former handlers have seen the light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj0Id3BLFco&feature=related

We now use the internet to turn the spot light on the likes of you:

http://AgendaDocumentary.com

The Europeans have exposed your NAZI "teeth in gum" relationship with
the Communist Party:

http://www.SovietStory.com

Hitler learned from your kind very well and the result predictable.
Your murders continue to be counted and documented:

http://www.GlobalMuseumOnCommunism.org
Pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DALeSSXXgI
Pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIHQI8UVEug

Video: Death Threats Against Wis. Republicans (Content Warning)

http://moonbattracker.com/wordpress/?p=479
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQg-fYwaoZM

Fascist Union Thug's Death Threats in Wisconsin

http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/03/17/20-days-of-left-wing-thuggery-in-wisconsin-when-will-obama-democrats-and-msm-call-for-civility/
http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20110311/WDH0101/303110067/Multimedia-18-GOP-senators-report-getting-death-threats

Fascist Union Activist to WI State Senators: "You Will Die"

http://www.nrtwc.org/union-activist-to-wi-state-senators-you-will-die/
http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes/117726263.html?blog=y

Fascism is a form of government which centers all power [House, Senate
and Judiciary] in a single party [Liberal Fascist JackAss Democrats]
headed by an absolute dictater [0baMa0 Tse Dung].

.........................sound..familiar?.........................

Anyone who is NOT a public Union/Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/
Communist is a Fascist according to Useful Liberal JackAss Idiots.
Anyone who refutes a public Union/Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/
Communist is a moron according to Useful Liberal JackAss Idiots.

THIS IS LIBERAL FASCISM

Pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFoiVZDSRs
Pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hdqjDIfyfo
Pt.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqdf7Wz-Pe4
Pt.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfJSub3CDJk
Pt.5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmAMVyNuVa0
Pt.6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE-4VDpwYwk
Pt.7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCJqnwZPc0Q
Pt.8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf39ZtLVa4A

If you haven't read the book, watched all of the above and understood
what was said, don't bother responding with your public UNION, LIBERAL
FASCIST, JackAss Idiot, Communist Party propaganda lies.

LIBERAL FASCIST Left-wing roots of the Nazis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4758sBZLC5k

LIBERAL FASCISM, Marxism, National Socialism [NAZI] and Juche
[N.Korea] are left-wing brothers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa1sj0gwnuQ

NAZI Origins of LIBERAL FASCISTS Global Warming - While this may sound
odd to many who have bought into the Marxian propaganda over the years
that the Nazis were right wing capitalistic extremists, Greens who
signed up for the Nazi Party were actually very typical of the day.
Between 60% and 70% of the German Greens were NAZI Party members,
compared to only 10% of the population at large.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/the_nazi_origins_of_apocalypti.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/the_original_environazis.html

LIBERAL FASCISTS and NAZIs ARE Allies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-URfx_k9uU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9XrscWjPYs

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian:

Pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk9WQaAIbOg
Pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmDXuA1-8FE
Pt.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eeNB_rWqpk
Pt.4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4maXhvSm4fQ

The LIBERAL FASCIST Path to Socialism:

Pt.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPyoEbU_wc4
Pt.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvuxr7v4xzk

"Just as the Left was drawn to the communist killing machines of
Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Castro, so too it is now attracted to
radical Islam."

"The contempt that German Hitlerytes had for "Bolshevism" or "marxist
Jews" generally should also not mislead us in assessing the similarity
between National Socialism and Communism. Leftist sects are very prone
to rivalry, dissension, schism and hatred of one-another. One has only
to think of the Bolsheviks versus the Mensheviks, Stalin versus
Trotsky, China versus the Soviet Union etc. Similarity does not
preclude rivalry. Hitler and Stalin were literally brothers in arms
BEFORE they became rivals. That socialist brothers sometimes fall out
should not prevent us from noting the brotherhood concerned."

[...]

"The fundamental dogma of all brands of socialism and communism is
that the market economy or capitalism is a system that hurts the vital
interests of the immense majority of people for the sole benefit of a
small minority of rugged individualists. It condemns the masses to
progressing impoverishment. It brings about misery, slavery,
oppression, degradation and exploitation of the working men, while it
enriches a class of idle and useless parasites."

"This doctrine was not the work of Karl Marx. It had been developed
long before Marx entered the scene. Its most successful propagators
were not the Marxian authors, but such men as Carlyle and Ruskin, the
British Fabians, the German professors and the American
Institutionalists. And it is a very significant fact that the
correctness of this dogma was contested only by a few economists who
were very soon silenced and barred from access to the universities,
the press, the leadership of political parties and, first of all,
public office. Public opinion by and large accepted the condemnation
of capitalism without any reservation."

[...]

Dr. Ludwig von Mises - http://mises.org/midroad.asp

[...]

"The term 'planning' is mostly used as a synonym for socialism,
communism, and authoritarian and totalitarian economic management.
Sometimes only the German pattern of socialism-Zwangswirtschaft-is
called planning, while the term socialism proper is reserved for the
Russian pattern of outright socialization and bureaucratic operation
of all plants, shops, and farms. At any rate, planning in this sense
means all-around planning by the government and enforcement of these
plans by the police power. Planning in this sense means full
government control of business. It is the antithesis of free
enterprise, private initiative, private ownership of the means of
production, market economy, and the price system. Planning and
capitalism are utterly incompatible. Within a system of planning
production is conducted according to the government's orders, not
according to the plans of capitalists and entrepreneurs eager to
profit by best filling the wants of the consumers.

"But the term planning is also used in a second sense. Lord Keynes,
Sir William Beveridge, Professor Hansen, and many other eminent men
assert that they do not want to substitute totalitarian slavery for
freedom. They declare that they are planing for a free society. They
recommend a third system, which, as they say, is as far from socialism
as it is from capitalism, which, as a third solution of the problem of
society's economic organization, stands midway between the two other
systems, and while retaining the advantages of both, avoids the
disadvantages inherent in each.

"These self-styled progressives are certainly mistaken when they
pretend that their proposals are new and unheard of. The idea of this
third solution is very old indeed, and the French have long since
baptized it with a pertinent name; they call it interventionism.
Hardly anybody can doubt that history will link the idea of social
security, more closely than with the American New Deal and with Sir
William Beveridge, with the memory of Bismarck whom our fathers did
not precisely describe as a liberal. All the essential ideas of
present-day interventionist progressivism were neatly expounded by the
supreme brain-trusters of imperial Germany, Professors Schmoller and
Wagner, who at the same time urged their Kaiser to invade and to
conquer the Americas. Far be it from me to condemn any idea only on
account of its not being new. But as the progressives slander all
their opponents as old-fashioned, orthodox, and reactionary, it is
expedient to observe that it would be more appropriate to speak of the
clash of two orthodoxies; the Bismarck orthodoxy versus the Jefferson
orthodoxy.

[...]

Dr. Ludwig von Mises - 1952 - http://mises.org/books/planningforfreedom_mises.pdf

The origins of the modern left can be traced back to the famous
passage in Rousseau’s Discourse on the Origin and Foundations of
Inequality, in which he condemned the institution of private
property:

“The first man, who after enclosing a piece of ground, took it into
his head to say, ‘this is mine,’ and found people simple enough to
believe him, was the real founder of civil society.”

Added Rousseau: “How many crimes, how many wars, how many murders, how
many misfortunes and horrors, would that man have saved the human
species, who pulling up the stakes or filling up the ditches should
have cried to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you
are lost, if you forget that the fruits of the earth belong equally to
us all, and the earth itself to nobody!”

Around the 1830s, a faction of French liberals gravitated toward
Romanticism and the philosophy of the late Rousseau, proclaiming that
capitalism, private property, and the increasing complexity of modern
society were agents of moral decay -- both for the individual and for
society at large. This is essentially the worldview that has made its
way, through history, into the collective mind of the modern left; it
is a worldview calling for a revolution that not only will topple the
existing capitalist order and punish its corrupt leaders, but that
also will replace that order with a socialist regime where the utopian
ideals of perfect justice and equality will reign. Such an ambition
can be put into effect only by a totalitarian state with the authority
to micromanage every facet of human life, precisely the end-point
toward which the policies and crusades of the modern left are
directed.

When the term “liberalism” (from the Latin word liberalis, meaning
“pertaining to a free man”) first emerged in the early 1800s, its
hallmarks were a belief in individual rights, the rule of law, limited
government, private property, and laissez faire economics. These would
remain the defining characteristics of liberalism throughout the
liberal epoch (generally identified as the period of 1815-1914). Yet
the modern left, which portrays itself as the agent of enlightened
commitment to “liberal” causes, in fact stands for the antithesis of
each of the foregoing liberal ideals. Contrary to its self-definition,
the left is neither “liberal” nor “progressive,” but rather a
reactionary force that seeks to resurrect the traditions that
characterized the epoch which preceded the rise of classical
liberalism.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1217

The following is from The World Book Encyclopedia, 1947 edition:
The chief characteristics of Fascism are as follows:

*THE CULTIVATION OF IGNORANCE*

Fascism, like all forms of government, rests firmly on the sincere
consent of a large part of the population... To maintain this consent,
the Fascist leadership must cut off the people from any information
which might cause them to doubt the complete correctness of the fixed
Fascist principles... All forms of communication are carefully
censored, so that the public will receive only those facts that the
dictators want known... Travel to other countries must be controlled,
and freedom of speech and assembly must be rigorously suppressed...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/arrest_warrant_filed_for_rahms.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sce0TLA5UYE
http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/2010/10/13/exclusive-cbs2-reporter-threatens-journalist-over-rahm-questioning/

If you have not yet seen "The Cartel" you owe it to yourself and the
children of the U.S.A. to do so:

http://www.TheCartelMovie.com

*SUPPRESSION OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY*

Fascism in Italy and Germany at first won the support of the wealthy
classes, both landed and industrial...

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/George_Soros

These people saw in Fascism a protection against the demands of
farmers and other workers... Both regimes at first upheld the rights
of private property... They subjected the working classes to a
rigorous discipline... As soon as they were firmly established, the
dictators began to limit profit, impose capital levies, and regulate
business in great detail...

Employment Rates under Liberal Fascism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ssIhiD8kKM

.........................sound..familiar?.........................

*THE POLICE STATE*

Fascism depends upon the police to crush all opposition or dissent.
Secret police spy on the whole population, and any casual remark
against the regime leads to swift and severe punishment... Opposition
parties are dissolved. Intellectual, athletic and recreational
organizations are usually brought under the control of the Fascist
authority... The ruthlessness of the police gradually becomes less
noticeable... This is because within a year or so after a Fascist
government takes power, vigorous opponents of the regime have either
left the country, been killed or jailed...

LIBERAL FASCIST union thugs trying to upend the results of Wisconsin
elections by force.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/116355379.html

Read more:
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/publius-forum/2011/02/teachers-union-thugs-comparing-people-to-hitler-shutting-down-schools-losing-their-argument.html#ixzz1EGR2iKwW

(Both Fascist and Communist leaders make use of the police state...
Every absolute government has used the police state to some degree...
It was highly developed among the ancient Assyrians...)

.........................sound..familiar?.........................

*EXTREME NATIONALISM*

Fascism is highly nationalistic... It tries to identify its principles
with the country, so that disagreement will look like treason... Some
other country, or some group within the country, is chosen to serve as
the "enemy" and made to appear as the cause of all evils or
misfortunes... For example, the Nazis in Germany represented their
movement first as a crusade against the Jews, then as a fight against
Communism and later as a struggle against the "attacks" from whatever
neighboring country they wished to subdue or occupy... Extreme
nationalism often becomes a kind of racial fanaticism... Sometimes it
combines racial and religious bigotry...

When you hear the Liberal Fascist JackAss propaganda that THEY are the
true patriots then you know the time is near. Look for it from the
socialist Labor Unions such as the SEIU!
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6535

*MILITARISM*

Fascism maintains among the people a permanently warlike frame of
mind... Every citizen feels that he is mobilized against enemies of
the regime from within, and against possible foreign foes... The
dictator usually comes to power during a period of economic crisis or
depression... He relieves the depression partly by employing many
people in the making of armaments... To justify this procedure, he
must convince the people that the country is threatened, and must
point toward some of the enemies against whom the armaments may be
needed...

Listen to 0baMa0's rhetoric and his fascistic support from the
Liberals
.........................sound..familiar?.........................

Here are the Three (3) Phases of Liberal Decay into Fascism:

1. Liberalism (Well Meaning, Nice Sounding, "Do-Gooder" Policies
Always Doomed to Fail)

2. Liberal-Progressivism (The Drive for Social Improvement through
Change and Promising Hope;
More Draconian Liberal Polices are Implemented to Transform The People
into a New Society that
Is Guided by 'The Party') The Party Elite Have Complete Power and Rule
Un-Checked.

3. Liberal-Fascism (The Rise of the Party Leader over 'The Party'
Ensuring the Unity and Uniformaty of 'The Party' and Enforcing The
Will of 'The Party' Over the People.) The Party Leader will Cleanse
'The Party' of All those Who Are NOT of 'The Party'; and 'The Party'
Will Cleanse the People of All Those Who Do NOT Support 'The Party'
and The Party Leader. The Party Leader Now Has Complete and Total
Power and Rules by the Force of His Iron Will.

Brother/Sister Are You "OF" 'The Party' ?

Does The Teaching Of 'The Party' Abide Within You ?

Does The Thoughts Of 'The Party' "Leader" Guide Your Thoughts ?

Let 'The Party' Change Your Life and Transform You !

Let 'The Party' Give You Hope and Renew You !
_____________________________________________________________
When you vote cut them off at the knees from your Tax Dollars.
Vote with your wallet.

Nickname unavailable

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On Mar 19, 2:49 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote


here is what reagan really said liar.

the modern conservative/libertarian/fascist movement has more in
common with hitler/stalin/mao/musolinni, than with reagan:I pledge to


you in his memory that the voice of the American 
worker will once
again be heeded in Washington and that the climate of 
fear that he
spoke of will no longer threaten workers and their 
families

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pyjamarama

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On Mar 19, 8:14 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:49:26 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung

>
> <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we
> >can, and so help us God, we will make America great again.
>
> Then within a few years---the fucking wealth class was given
> billions--

Can't "give" to someone that which is theirs in the first place,
fuckwit....

And you ain't gettin' any more free shit than you've already taken...

NATCH!

Face it -- you're a low-life on the bottom rungs of American society
and you ALWAYS will be...

Deal with it, already.

Gary 'Yoorgloon" Roselles -- left-wing sociopath and author of the
following “views” on race, homosexuality and killing government
officials and teenage girls:

"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/9448fa9e79d03c83?dmode=source

"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore. 
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dmode=source

What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having 
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=en&

"Both are traitors to their race" -- Race Purist Gary Roselles on the
importance 
of Race Loyalty

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793

"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist

“Bush’s Uncle Tom Cabinet A Good Move For GOP” – Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116fa0999182fb
(see header)

"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4
(see header)

"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick 
to their own kind"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmode=source

"His appointment will bridge nothing. It's apparant he's being an
uncle tom to appease voters." -- White trash, racist asshole Gary
Roselles 
slurs African-American Hero General Colin Powell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/3bdf04c3586323ed?dmode=source

"Group Negro Poster Pyjamarma admits to being a coconut headed coon"
-- Gary Roselles, pathetic racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d9ccfefc35328516?dmode=source
(see header)

"Say "yes Massa", Uncle Tom." – Vile racist Gary Roselles pathetically
mocks and 
slurs prominent African-American man-of-the-cloth Jesse Lee
Peterson

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/ecc4d1339f7a1c79?hl=en&dmode=source

"How does a pampered, Stanford based, Scaife funded, Uncle Tom make
judgements on "the bottom", McFly?" -- Another day, another racial
slur on an educated, successful, independent black man from Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/67c195d05ad55e39?hl=en&dmode=source
"I consider hating RIGHT WING nazi/fascist fucks like you a God
inspired emotion."

"Hating RIGHT WINGERS is doing God's work, Dumbapropyl" -- Pure,
venomous hate-speech from "god-inspired" whackjob Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a faggot
socialist." -- Gary Roselles, “f”-bomb droppin’ rabid homophobe

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.conservatism/msg/d2ab5e412f7ed8e7?dmode=source

"You're like that kid that has just been told that's not a hot-dog
he's sucking on" -- Gary Roselles, Pedophile, admits forcing oral
copulation on a child

http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/fcf8198215ac03f2?as_ums

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On Mar 19, 5:11 pm, Nickname unavailable <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote:

the reason for the hatred, is because your type broke reagans
promise. may i remind you of THE GIPPERS promise to working americans
and their families.

Beginning in January of 1981, American workers will once again be
heeded. Their needs and values will be acted upon in Washington. I
will consult with representatives of organized labor on those matters
concerning the welfare of the working people of this nation.
I happen to be the only president of a union ever to be a candidate
for President of the United States.
As president of my union -- the Screen Actors Guild -- I spent many
hours with the late George Meany, whose love of this country and
whose 
belief in a strong defense against all totalitarians is one of
labor’s 
greatest legacies. One year ago today on Labor Day George
Meany told 
the American people:
“As American workers and their families return from their summer
vacations they face growing unemployment and inflation, a climate of
economic anxiety and uncertainty.”
Well I pledge to you in his memory that the voice of the American
worker will once again be heeded in Washington and that the climate
of 
fear that he spoke of will no longer threaten workers and their
families.


today because the modern conservative/libertarian/fascist movement
has more in common with hitler, stalin, mao, and musolinni's hatred of
unions, america families are now living in fear again.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Ahhhhh, the Hell! with those damn Reagans!!!!
cuhulin

arthr...@webtv.net

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On Mar 20, 12:38 am, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> Ahhhhh, the Hell! with those damn Reagans!!!!
> cuhulin

Black people use his name (when spelled backwards) for a very
demeaning epithet .

dave

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On 03/19/2011 05:18 PM, pyjamarama wrote:
> On Mar 19, 8:14 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:49:26 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung
>>
>> <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we
>>> can, and so help us God, we will make America great again.
>>
>> Then within a few years---the fucking wealth class was given
>> billions--
>
> Can't "give" to someone that which is theirs in the first place,
> fuckwit....
>
The only way to create wealth is to take something, apply labor to it,
and make it more valuable. That is the only way.

dave

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dave

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RHF

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On Mar 20, 6:46 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> On 03/19/2011 05:18 PM, pyjamarama wrote:> On Mar 19, 8:14 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:49:26 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung
>
> >> <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>> Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we
> >>> can, and so help us God, we will make America great again.
>
> >> Then within a few years---the fucking wealth class was given
> >> billions--

- - Can't "give" to someone that which is theirs
- - in the first place, fuckwit....

One Must Ask : How Did They Get It ?

Point-of-Fact -is- All Taxes Are Wealth Expropriation
[ The Government Taking What You Have ]

- The only way to create wealth is to take something,
- apply labor to it, and make it more valuable.
- That is the only way.

Dave : ? "apply labor" ? -over-simplified-

Apply Labor*
* Amplified by Organization & Teamwork
* Enhanced by Education & Knowledge
* Multiplied by Expertise & Skill
* Refined by Art & Craftsmanship
yes 'i' say that ~ RHF©
.
-wrt- Moving Money Around Is Not Creating Wealth
Point-of-Fact : Moving Money Around Is Clearly
Wealth Redistribution* [.] {Redistributing the Wealth}
* If Wall Street Bankers Do It : It's Call High Finance.
* If Politicians Do It : It's Call Socialism.
* If Poor Exploited People Demand It : It's Call Revolutionary.
yes 'i' say that ~ RHF©
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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I will tell you how to create some wealth.
Invent and design and develop and put on the market place a 'Magic Box'.
Enema tat thar box, you can plop your cell brain cancer phone, smart ass
phone, touchee feely tablet.The box should have a built in infrared
virtual keyboard and a projector and HDMI out port enema case you wants
to hook it uppa to your giant screen HDTV with an HDMI cable, or one of
those dongles and use it wirelessly.Duz yu git me drift? I feel very
sure it is doable.
I would do it meself, but I am not smart like y'all arre anna I don'ts
have that much money and I don't have a PhD enema electronic
enginnering.I don't have enema kind of PhD.

Psst, iffen you do it, make sure doggy and I gits a piece of tat thar
pie.It's my idea first.
cuhulin

Beam Me Up Scotty

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to create wealth means two things, you must have work and you must have
need.

Both mean you must have human life.....


Wealth is a human attribute. Wealth is a unit of life that has been
stored, a unit of need and a unit of work combined into a unit of value
which we collect as wealth.


Wealth is the same as ones and zeros in a computer, they don't exist yet
we give them values. Some ones and zeros are worth more to us than
others and all are simply work that has been stored. Their worth is
only measured by our need of them. The wealth in ones and zeros is as
subjective as the wealth in a dollar.


Kevin Alfred Strom

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On 3/20/2011 1:49 PM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
[..]

> Wealth is a human attribute. Wealth is a unit of life that has been
> stored, a unit of need and a unit of work combined into a unit of value
> which we collect as wealth.
>
>
> Wealth is the same as ones and zeros in a computer, they don't exist yet
> we give them values. Some ones and zeros are worth more to us than
> others and all are simply work that has been stored. Their worth is
> only measured by our need of them. The wealth in ones and zeros is as
> subjective as the wealth in a dollar.


Very true. But I'd add more. This is a very important subject that
we need to understand if we are to stop being exploited and cheated.

Wealth is a verbal and often numeric expression for the valuable
acts and creations of creative, productive people. The crops that
the farmer brings in from the field are wealth. The buildings that
the architect designs and the stonemason fashions are wealth. The
books that the author writes and the publisher and bookbinder get
into the hands of readers and libraries are wealth. The libraries
themselves are wealth. A brilliantly-conceived computer program is
wealth. The silent machinery that keeps you cool in the summer and
warm in the winter is wealth. The mass of technology that connects
you to the Internet and allows you to exchange any information with
anyone you choose is wealth. The paintings in the National Gallery
that move and inspire us are wealth.

But currency itself is not wealth, any more than a ruler is height.
Currency is just an imperfect means of measuring wealth and of
exchanging our creations and efforts with others, allowing each of
us to specialize in something – to our mutual benefit and the
promotion of excellence through a division of labor.

When our government gives away 20 billion of our dollars to Israel,
that really means that Israel can now demand 20 billion dollars’
worth of work and creativity from us. We must work for them or
repudiate the dollars. And, since laws prevent us from repudiating
the dollars, we must work for them. Part of our wealth goes to them
instead of to our own people. It is lost to our families, to our
elderly, to investment in American infrastructure, to our future
generations.

The same goes for the endless billions of dollars that have gone to
build roads and hospitals and dams and factories in Africa. Never
mind that many of those roads are buckled with jungle growth after
only a few years, and that the Africans let the factory gears grind
to a halt, and the roof has caved in on the hospitals, and the
abandoned buildings are now occupied by the occasional baboon. Those
dollars were used to demand work and effort and part of the lives of
our people. That work and that effort could have stayed at home,
could have been used to benefit our own people.

"The Good Things..."

That’s what wealth is. It’s the good things — and the sometimes
great things — that we can do with our lives. If our government or
the banking system can give away or switch around the trading stamps
called dollars so that you are working for Israel or Egypt or China
or Zambia or Mexico, then that is how you spend your life. That is
what you devote your life to. That is who your creativity and
talents benefit. Them. Not your own people. And if we spend our
lives working for others, we cannot spend those precious,
irreplaceable minutes and hours and years working to benefit our own
families, our own nation, our own people. That is what wealth
transfer really means.

http://nationalvanguard.org/2010/10/what-is-wealth/

With all good wishes,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

cuh...@webtv.net

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Heads Up! or maybe you will want to Duck!
cuhulin, the Duck

cuh...@webtv.net

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About One Million and Seven Hundred Thousand MOFO CRIMMINAL WETBACKS!!!
Operation WETBACK!

Silverado Savings and Loans SCANDAL!!!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the HELLLLLLLLLL with those DAMN
Reagans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin

Day Brown

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Nietzsche said anti-Semites were "tragic buffoons", and here we see an
example. Buffoons for one thing cause they fail to see the real problem.
No Aryan nation that was not also Christian, ever had a "Jewish problem"
or Jews controlling the banking.

Tragic as well because they lack the scholarship, which Nietzsche also
knew, to track down the origin of the Ashkenazic Jews, who were their
misplaced target.

There's a reason the Ashkenazim got into banking in Europe while their
Tocharian cousins, running the East end of the Silk Road had a more
varied economic base. But no matter; the promise to pay was sufficient
to encourage trade in real goods, and that TOOL enabled Silk Road cities
to flourish like no others ever had.

money is a form of contract. as is the contract to move it, either way
moving a surplus to where it may be better utilized. Not that I dont
take to task the cost of managing money.

arthr...@webtv.net

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Another 'historian' comparing apples and oranges ! Tocharians have
lived and prospered and faded away long before Ashkenazim appered on
the world's stage . Check your sources for the exact dates . It is
that simple . You might be confusing Tocharians and Khazars ,btw .

Day Brown

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Barford, "The Early Slavs" for one, reports the Khazar elite (the guys
running the west end of the Silk Road up thru Ukraine to go around the
chronic warfare between Byzantium and the Muslims) converted to Judaism
in the late 9th century. Before the rise of the Mongols, who destroyed
Tocharian culture... and most everyone else's in Asia next.

Scroll down to the bottom of http://daybrown.org/artifax/artifax.htm for
a look at the guys running the other end of the Silk Road. The same
gold, and the same "Jewish noses".

The ancestors of the Ashkenazim are the Khazar Elite, and their
ancestors have been in BUSINESS for thousands of years. While you mite
claim these ARYAN Ashkenazim have no right to Israel, that's a hard case
to make cause they married Jewesses who fled Christian persecution, and
if you have a Jewish mom, then you can claim to be a Jew.

Which was a wise policy cause Jewesses are not guilt tripped about sex
and are really good in bed. Nobody ever asks who sperm donors were.

arthr...@webtv.net

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On Mar 22, 2:34 am, Day Brown <daybr...@artelco.com> wrote:
> and are really good in bed. Nobody ever asks who sperm donors were.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

A. I think your chronology is off again . By many
centuries , I'm afraid . The Mongols did not destroy the Tocharian
civilization - it is usually attributed to the Xiongnu at the
beginning of the Common Era . The Mongols did not appear as a nation
until much later- almost a thousand years after the Tocharians
disappeared as an independent culture , though the Tocharian-derived
(PIE) language is not completely extinct until our day ! B.
There is nothing shown on any of the illustrations on that page that
even remotely resmbles any Semitic or Mediterranean faces . On the
contrary , what is portrayed are several typically distinct Oriental
and Slavic men (if we may use the modern terms) . The so-called
'Roman' noses (in our time) have a very strong presence amongst many
West European nations, especially pronounced in Southern Europe along
the the Mediterranean . Incidentally, the great majority of children
born to Ashkenazy parents in the Holy Land don't have that privilege ,
just in case if some people are not aware of this little known
fact . C. Never heard the term 'Aryan Ashkenazim' before-- the
two cultures did not cross each other's path's in antiquity . D .
Now - about the the matrilineage in the Ancient Judea . After the fall
of Jerusalem,in 70 AD, there simply were not enough men left for
procreation . Period . Dead,sold into slavery and similar. . . I can
suggest a contemporary primary source : Josephus Flavius (Bellum
Judaicum) . _____________________ With very best wishes . Don't get
me wrong- I simply love History !

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 22, 2011, 4:49:11 PM3/22/11
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Cool Hand Luke gits ah nite in da box!
I am going to make a box just like that one in the movie.I will charge
them wimmins a hundred dollars to spend a night in the box.Then I will
give them back fifty dollars to make like a tree leave.
Don't laugh, there are probally a lot of wimmin who would pay money to
spend a Nite in da box.
Alcatraz.
cuhulin

Gary Forbis

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On Mar 22, 1:14 pm, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2:34 am, Day Brown <daybr...@artelco.com> wrote:

I love it when you guys talk dirty like this but I'm confused by the
responses relative to what Kevin Strom wrote. This passage:

When our government gives away 20 billion of our dollars to
Israel,
that really means that Israel can now demand 20 billion dollars
worth of work and creativity from us. We must work for them or
repudiate the dollars. And, since laws prevent us from repudiating
the dollars, we must work for them. Part of our wealth goes to
them
instead of to our own people. It is lost to our families, to our
elderly, to investment in American infrastructure, to our future
generations.

Seems more like an example rather than an attack on jewish people.
Am I missing something? Heck, I think our support of zionism is bad
for all parties but that's a completely separate issue and has to do
with
theocracies rather than the particular religion. Is the truth of the
claim
dependent upon the specifics of the example? It looks quite correct
to me.

Last year I gave to the K.I.N.D. fund. I like the idea of funding the
production
of desks in the country needing them. When I wrote a critique of my
giving
I said I wasn't sure why we needed to be involved. It seemed to me
that
the local government could just create the scripts for the desks then
tax
it back out of existence. This technique works just fine when what
one is
funding produces sufficient economic activity to be taxed out of
existence
without impacting other activities. When we give them US dollars
those
funds have to end up back in the US to be of any real value. The
shorter
the distance (a form of velocity) the less impact on the foreign
economy.
I don't like giving to funds that buy American products to ship over
seas.
Sure the goods, less administrative costs, end up in the hands of the
needy, less graft, but the economic activity stays in the US where it
isn't
doing as much good for these needy. My major concern in the US right
now is the enfranchised rich are sucking the economy dry way to
quickly,
spending those dollars on paper and real assets rather than
consumables.

I'd say the US poor should move back to barter or versions of
promissory
notes if the state wasn't transfering taxes off the rich and on to the
poor
as quickly as it can and demanding extraction from the economic
activity
of the poor.

cuh...@webtv.net

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American Military Targeting Israel?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com

Watch em say Whirrled Nuts Daily.
I needs to buy some screen wire and tack it over those roof vents , the
inside of my attic.Those Tree Rats (Whirrled Nuts Squirrels) are getting
in my attic.
cuhulin

arthr...@webtv.net

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On Mar 22, 11:00 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> American Military Targeting Israel?http://www.worldnetdaily.com

>
> Watch em say Whirrled Nuts Daily.
> I needs to buy some screen wire and tack it over those roof vents , the
> inside of my attic.Those Tree Rats (Whirrled Nuts Squirrels) are getting
> in my attic.
> cuhulin

They come to help erect a new antenna for Cycle 24, I bet . It is
their mating season , I think .

cuh...@webtv.net

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General Motors Lays Off Workers at NY Plant
http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

Next!?
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sometimes TCM channel Pizzes me OFF!!! Here it is Midnight and we gots a
real Good Wallace Beery movie fixin to start going.Somebody at TCM needs
to get the lead out off their asses and put MY Favorite old movies on
there at a decent hour! I am going to bed anyway.Clark Gable don't mean
nuttin to me.I never cared anything about that Kook anyway.
China Seas, my Ass!
cuhulin

m II

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A long video explaining why things are the way they are.

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On Mar 20, 10:23 pm, Day Brown <daybr...@artelco.com> wrote:

The original purpose of money was a medium of
exchange. In the past money has been salt, grain,
whiskey, gold, etc. Simply an easy means of
trade for goosd or services having value.

dave

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On 03/23/2011 03:28 AM, m II wrote:
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> On 11-03-20 07:46 AM, dave wrote:
>> On 03/19/2011 05:18 PM, pyjamarama wrote:

>>> Can't "give" to someone that which is theirs in the first place,
>>> fuckwit....
>>>
>> The only way to create wealth is to take something, apply labor to it,
>> and make it more valuable. That is the only way.
>
>
> A long video explaining why things are the way they are.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6076118677860424204#
>

If you can't explain it in a couple paragraphs that means it's bullshit.
The current financial system is a house of cards. Eat the rich.

Gary Forbis

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While It is better than those extolling the value of a gold standard
it still
has some interesting quirks.

If I produce an object for $100 investment then sell it to someone
else
for $1000 I have made a profit of $900 from my labor. This doesn't
matter
if the purchacer buys in one installment or ten. Anyone can sell what
they own via installment payments. I see no reason why I should allow
someone to buy over time without a cost since there is a cost to me so
I will charge interest on the value of the loan. I have not created
money
out of thin air but I have created value and expect payment for it.

National debt is indeed a problem but politicians can't help
themselves
and will spend. The result is inflation unless they are prevented
from
creating money into existence beyond the needs of the economy,
otherwise the result is inflation.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 23, 2011, 10:43:29 AM3/23/11
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Maxweltons Braes arre Bonnie,,,, where early fas the dewww,,,, twas
there that Annie Laurie gae me herr promise trrueeee,,,,,
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 23, 2011, 10:51:08 AM3/23/11
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History of Money.
Big ass Stones?
Hard for anybody wayyyyyyy back then to steal that money! You could drag
two of them with a Dinosaur to Bedrock Motors and buy a Bedrock
Pedalmobile.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 23, 2011, 11:08:48 AM3/23/11
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Laurel Gun Show.This weekend in Laurel,Missy Sippy.
Gun Shows R US.
Durn Tootin! ~ George ''Gabby'' Hayes.
cuhulin

Day Brown

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Israeli support rests on realpolitik- a base from which to launch ground
forces to rapidly advance East and seize the oil. Christian dogma about
prophecy and secure access to holy sites whether relations with Islam
are amicable or not.

The Treaty of Tripoli, signed by pres Adams and ratified unanimously by
the US senate says the "United States is not a Christian nation." if it
returned to that original policy the relationship with Israel would be
more logical.

If the USA- and the global economy- which the USA provides 'security
forces' for, were able to free itself from dependence on Islamic oil,
then the money to support Israel would not be necessary.

Just because Jews in the US govt designed the policy dont mean it is a
bad idea.

Day Brown

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Mar 23, 2011, 8:58:47 PM3/23/11
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I graduated from a high school in 1958 that was 1/3 Jews. I was pres of
the chess club, and I've been to synagogues, and in all these settings
saw the same physical characteristics. You say they dont look Semitic. I
agree; they are Slavs. Which have the same common Aryan ancestors as the
Tocharians.

Of course, there never was a pure "Aryan" race. The Khazar elite that
converted to Judaism of course intermarried with Jews. There's no
sorting it all out now.

History since Roman times shows many mass movements of Steppe tribes.
There's no reason to think the same thing was not going on in prehistory
all the way back to Tripolye 5000 BP. Among all these random movements,
inevitably some moved more consistently East and arrived in the Tamir
basin 4000 BP, assuming EW Barber's dating report is correct in "The
Mummies of Urumchi".

This is consistent with Douglas Adams' "Tocharian Historical Morphology
and Phonology" observing Tocharian is the only Aryan 'centum' language
East of the birch/beech line.

Mair, Mallory, & Barber all show us Aryan cultural traits and now more
recently, DNA from Europe. But where? Tripolye obviously, which was in
the middle of the Khazar region north of the Black Sea.

BTW: I am bemused the Chinese do not bring this to everyone's attention,
that the Tocharians were, whatever else they were, NOT 'Turks' like the
misogynistic Uyghers

The Xiongnu are the barbaric ancestors of the Mongols; if it walks like
a duck, its a duck.

arthr...@webtv.net

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> The current financial system is a house of cards. Eat the rich.- Hide quoted text -

>
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Actually it is the exact opposite . The present financial system is an
upside down pyramid that is somewhat balanced for now . Just for
now . . .

arthr...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 12:28:59 AM3/24/11
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They used to have real stone wheels in place of money somewhere in the
Pacific . Micronesian island of Yap . Can't be moved or stolen --
that's for shure .

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 12:28:56 AM3/24/11
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Big Badda Badda Fire at Miami Airport.
http://www.drudgereport.com

Whirrled Reports Daily.
cuhuin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 1:25:03 AM3/24/11
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There is an old Alley Oop song, I remember it used to be on the radio
once in a while.

Alley Oop,,, Oop,,, Oop,,,,,,,
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 1:20:24 AM3/24/11
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http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=The+Fred+Flintstone+Car

I like those old Alley Oop comics too.
Wilmaaaaaa,,,,
cuhulin

RHF

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On Mar 20, 10:49 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:

> On 3/20/2011 9:46 AM, dave wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 03/19/2011 05:18 PM, pyjamarama wrote:
> >> On Mar 19, 8:14 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:49:26 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung
>
> >>> <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>> Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we
> >>>> can, and so help us God, we will make America great again.
>
> >>> Then within a few years---the fucking wealth class was given
> >>> billions--
>
> >> Can't "give" to someone that which is theirs in the first place,
> >> fuckwit....
>
> > The only way to create wealth is to take something, apply labor to it,
> > and make it more valuable. That is the only way.
>
> to create wealth means two things, you must have work and you must have
> need.
>
> Both mean you must have human life.....
>
> Wealth is a human attribute.   Wealth is a unit of life that has been
> stored, a unit of need and a unit of work combined into a unit of value
> which we collect as wealth.
>
> Wealth is the same as ones and zeros in a computer, they don't exist yet
> we give them values.  Some ones and zeros are worth more to us than
> others and all are simply work that has been stored.  Their worth is
> only measured by our need of them.   The wealth in ones and zeros is as
> subjective as the wealth in a dollar.

? Creating Wealth -or- Redistributing The Wealth !

The old saying goes: One Man's Junk {Worthless}
is another Man's Treasure {Profit} ;-)

Something To Think About - From the Bonanza TV Series:

-story-dialog-goes- Why HOSS,

Business is "Where" the Man with the Money
'meets' the Man with the Experience.

The Man with the Experience 'gets' the Money . . .

and the Man with the Money 'gets' the Experience ! ! !

[ That's Wealth Redistribution 101 ]

and that is... something to think about . . . ~ RHF
.
.

RHF

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On Mar 22, 7:28 pm, Gary Forbis <forbisga...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 1:14 pm, arthrny...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > On Mar 22, 2:34 am, Day Brown <daybr...@artelco.com> wrote:
>
> I love it when you guys talk dirty like this but I'm confused by the
> responses relative to what Kevin Strom wrote.  This passage:
>
>    When our government gives away 20 billion of our dollars to
> Israel,
>    that really means that Israel can now demand 20 billion dollars
>    worth of work and creativity from us. We must work for them or
>    repudiate the dollars. And, since laws prevent us from repudiating
>    the dollars, we must work for them. Part of our wealth goes to
> them
>    instead of to our own people. It is lost to our families, to our
>    elderly, to investment in American infrastructure, to our future
>    generations.


Money [US Dollars] is a Commodity -aka- Fungible
Presently the US Dollar is the Universal {Basic}
Currency that is the Life Blood {Fluid} of a Uniform
System of World Trade.

Money's [US Dollars] only Use is as a Means of Exchange.

World Trade is a Supply and Demand = Demand and
Supply System of Finite Resources : Waiting to Be
Created, Created, Held, Exchanged, Used, Modified
and Consumed.

The Example of $20B US Dollars : Puts a Supply
of Money into the System of World Trade :
* The US Created It. {Supplies It}
* Israel Receives It. {Uses It}
* * Israels Spends It Around the World {Not Just the USA}
Eventually the World Wide System of Trade Flows,
Filters and Balances Out with the USA roughly 'receiving'
that $20B back in Demands for Goods and Services
from many divergent sources from around the world;
not just Israel.

Unless the USA's comes in the form of US "Sourced"
Goods and Services :
US {Made} Military Equipment
US {Grown} Food and Agriculture

China [PRC] Usually Does Not Simply Give Money :
China Gives Some Money {Coupled With}
+ Chinese Made Materials
+ Chinese Human Labor Corps
{China Exports Labor as a Form of Foreign Aid} :
Chinese Foreign Aid Is Always For Securing Natural
Resources; Food and Agriculture and Markets.
* The PRC Is Not Charitable : They Are Monopolist
Corporatists Seeking First Economic Cooperation
and then Domination of the World Exchange.

and that's the way 'i' see it ~ RHF
.
.
Moving Money Around Is Clearly Wealth Redistribution
{Redistributing the Wealth}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/788974447c9d74b3
.
Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5cbb38ea82b48518

dave

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Sounds like satire. Money is obsolete.

dave

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m II

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On 11-03-24 06:26 AM, dave wrote:

> Sounds like satire. Money is obsolete.


Come for the money, stay for the Feudalism.

mike

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Beam Me Up Scotty

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Which is why some people create no wealth..... they do work that
creates every man's Junk.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 11:30:46 AM3/24/11
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Move a big bunch of Money around to doggy and I.Wealth.
Your Born in Kenya! B HO! buddy said to spread that Wealth.Ask
Joe the Plumber, he will tell you.
Ask those Nigerians/Romanians doing those spam scam emails, they will
tell you too.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 11:41:57 AM3/24/11
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The City of Jackson,Missy Sippy is hosting a UFO conference in April, I
think the guy said April 16.They are asking people who saw (I Say
BULLSHEET!) some UFOs enema Missy Sippy to brought yosefs to the UFO
conference.(More BULLSHEET!)

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=1977+Flora+Mississippi+UFO+Inncident

Will George ''Afraid of Ouija Boards'' Noory be there? Ahh aints ahgoin,
Ahh Say,
BULLSHEET!
cuhulin, UFOs R US

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 12:05:09 PM3/24/11
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I wood boughts ah Ginyoowine Diamond studded dog collar furr me leetle
couch buddy doggy, wit sum O' dats darr Wealth.Mannnnn,,,,, them thar
Diamonds wood bee ahshinin laks crazy! outch thar enema that thar Missy
Sippy Sun Light! Yesuhhhhhh,,,,,,,
Jack of Diamonds,,, Jack of Diamonds,,,,,, I know you of olddd,,,,,,,,
you have robbed my poor pockets of Silver and Golddddd,,,,,,,

More Traces of Radiation Found in U.S.States
http://www.rense.com
River Red and Ohwegone, y'all hassa dun jined the Atomic Radiation list,
Yapanee Nuke stuff.
cuhulin

dave

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dave

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cuh...@webtv.net

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A few mintes ago, somebody at MDOT (Missy Sippy Department Of
Transportation) told JT (Super Talk Missy Sippy Radio talk show) the
Missy Sippy River Bridge between Vicksburg and Louisiana will be closed
(there are two Bridges there, one of them is the old original Bridge,
used only for Railroad traffic nowadays) from Noon untill 2:00 PM today.

Yeah, I know, it's backwater hick Missy Sippy, so who cares? I Care!
Close a big ass Bridge anywhere else in America and it's Instant World
Wide Breaking News!
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Mississippi+River+Bridge+Update+Vicksburg
cuhulin, Bridges R US

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On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>
>> Which is why some people create no wealth.....
>
> Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
> money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.

Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.

bpnjensen

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Mar 24, 2011, 2:48:38 PM3/24/11
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On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:

He did not create it so much as concentrate it. Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.

Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.

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bpnjensen

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Mar 24, 2011, 3:48:55 PM3/24/11
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On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Again, concentrating wealth. It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. You cannot get something from nothing.

bpnjensen

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Mar 24, 2011, 3:50:02 PM3/24/11
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On Mar 24, 12:24 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:48:38 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen

>
> <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Who created the Microsoft Wealth?  Without Bill Gates, who would have
> >> created personal computing that would become a world wide success.
>
> >He did not create it so much as concentrate it.  Now, he's beginning
> >to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.
>
> That's true
>
> His web of business is a job producer---but as you say concentrates
> wealth into his hands
>
> Gates is unique
>
> The top 400 WEalthiest familes in america own/control about 95% of all
> the wealth.  Since the late 90's (under GOP congresses) they have
> amassed hundreds of billions of dollars---yet "created" few businesses
> that create jobs.
>
> They were allowed to make billion by "keeping their money" (literally
> tax free) and using it to create more wealth on Wall street.  It's the
> Ideal "dick armey" goal.  

Yes. Demonstrably true in every regard. Not the whole story, but a
big part of it.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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NOT true at all....

wealth is a measure of both "need and work" wealth is stored work that
has value. If the stored work becomes useless to anyone then it has
zero value and is no longer wealth.


Wealth can be gold or it can be a painting or it can be the copywrite
ownership of Windows-7.


The day Windows-8 is released, then Windows-7 will NOT represent as much
wealth.


Soon the U.S. dollar will NO longer be a symbol of wealth, they will
have diminishing value to each of us and will not retain wealth because
they are not of value to people.... while a can of soup may be of more
value than all the dollars you can carry. Owning cans of soup may be
real wealth while owning cash is like having a pet rock.


Gary Forbis

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On Mar 24, 12:48 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Again, concentrating wealth.  It has nothing to do with who made the
> operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
> the expense of anyone else.  The only way the human race gains wealth
> is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
> loses something.  The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
> decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
> yourself otherwise.  You cannot get something from nothing.

In many cases the value is in the structure of the resource rather
than the resource itself. We wouldn't not think to eat again today
the resources we so gladly ate yesterday.

If it were not for our economic structure I would say who did what
was a waste of time and emotional effort. I feel we are indeed played
as pawns by people who create misery for their own happiness. It
is a pithetic life for which we all pay. The seven deadly sins are
wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony. At times I get
quite peeved by those who promote a path towards these sins.

By moving towards technologies that utilize renewable resources
(it's the structure that matters) we make our lives easier. This
morning a woman said with pride how plentify hispanics have
become in the US. I care not about the racial mix but the growth
in our population to achieve it. People who buy into the notion of
strife for a better life create that strife. The more of us there are
the greater the need for usable resources. A move towards
renewable resources doesn't make our life easier if it is offset
by increased population. People have to envision the world they
would like to see real before it can be achieved. If that means
a world of winners and losers then that's the world we will have.

RHF

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On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:

> On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> > <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>
> >> Which is why some people create no wealth.....
>
> > Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
> > money---they contribute nothing to society
>
> Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
> are considered wealth, is creating wealth.  The person organizing the
> production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth.  Without
> them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
> people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.
>
> Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
> wealth due to a lack of ability.

- Who created the Microsoft Wealth?
- Without Bill Gates, who would have
- created personal computing that would
- become a world wide success.

D'Oh ! Those Two Guy from Apple : Sure did
very well without BG@MS - imho ~ RHF
.
-a-minor-historical-point-
It was the IBM PC and IBM Corp that was the
the 'creative force' that caused BG@MS and
MS Corp to become what it was in the 1990s.
.
.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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On 3/24/2011 4:20 PM, RHF wrote:
> On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>> On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Which is why some people create no wealth.....
>>
>>> Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
>>> money---they contribute nothing to society
>>
>> Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
>> are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
>> production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
>> them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
>> people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.
>>
>> Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
>> wealth due to a lack of ability.
>
> - Who created the Microsoft Wealth?
> - Without Bill Gates, who would have
> - created personal computing that would
> - become a world wide success.
>
> D'Oh ! Those Two Guy from Apple : Sure did
> very well without BG@MS - imho ~ RHF

yet 8 of 10 use Windows.....

Had you cornered the market and bought all the "buggy whips" 130 years
ago(billions of dollars invested) and you now try to realize your
fortune and cash in your wealth by selling your buggy whips..... you may
find that they're no longer of any real value and you now have no
wealth. In fact, depending on the chemicals used to make them, they may
now be a liability rather than an asset. It may cost you to get rid of
the buggy whips in an environmentally safe way.


Wealth is a measure of need or value as well as a measure of stored work.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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On 3/24/2011 4:20 PM, RHF wrote:
> On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>> On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Which is why some people create no wealth.....
>>
>>> Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
>>> money---they contribute nothing to society
>>
>> Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
>> are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
>> production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
>> them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
>> people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.
>>
>> Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
>> wealth due to a lack of ability.
>
> - Who created the Microsoft Wealth?
> - Without Bill Gates, who would have
> - created personal computing that would
> - become a world wide success.
>
> D'Oh ! Those Two Guy from Apple : Sure did
> very well without BG@MS - imho ~ RHF

yet 8 of 10 use Windows.....

Had you cornered the market and bought all the "buggy whips" 130 years
ago(billions of dollars invested) and you now try to realize your
fortune and cash in your wealth by selling your buggy whips..... you may
find that they're no longer of any real value and you now have no
wealth. In fact, depending on the chemicals used to make them, they may
now be a liability rather than an asset. It may cost you to get rid of
the buggy whips in an environmentally safe way.


Wealth is a measure of need or value as well as a measure of stored work.


Salt has been worth more than gold at times.....


RHF

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Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
> On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> > Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
> >> On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> >>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Which is why some people create no wealth.....
>
> >>> Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
> >>> money---they contribute nothing to society
>
> >> Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
> >> are considered wealth, is creating wealth.  The person organizing the
> >> production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth.  Without
> >> them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
> >> people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.
>
> >> Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
> >> wealth due to a lack of ability.
>
> >> Who created the Microsoft Wealth?  Without Bill Gates, who would have
> >> created personal computing that would become a world wide success.
>
- - He did not create it so much as concentrate it.
- - Now, he's beginning to spread it around again...
- - but still, not creating it.

- What does your Operating system say?
-
- That's who created it.
-
- Others were created but they are not creating
- as much wealth.

BG@MS Did NOT 'Create' The Wealth :

The Wealth Existed and was Distributed more Evenly
and Equability across the Customer Population
{Wealth Base}

BG@MS Did Promoted, Refined and Monopolized
a Set of Products and Services to that Customer
Population {Wealth Base} -and- Those Customers
Freely Redistributed Their Wealth {by Buy/Buyers/
Buying} from&to BG@MS and MS Corp.

BG@MS and MS Corp Simply Aggregated {Collected
and Concentrate} the Wealth of Others {The Customer
Wealth Base} to Himself and MS Corp.

It Is Time For BG@MS To Give Back {Pay-Back} This
Redistributed Wealth To That Very Same Customer
Population {Wealth Base}
* BG@MS Can Keep a Billion Dollars for Himself;
Plus a Billion Dollars for Misses BG; and a Billion
Dollars for each of the BG Children (3) :
That's 5 Billion Dollars :
But the Rest of the Billions Should Be Redistributed
{Paid-Back} To The Customer Population {Wealth Base}
In The Name of Economic Social Justice For All.

Power {Wealth} To The Customers/Consumers !
{ From Whom All Redistributed Wealth Flows }

RHF

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Mar 24, 2011, 4:53:46 PM3/24/11
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On Mar 24, 12:48 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
- operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
- the expense of anyone else.  The only way the human race gains
wealth
- is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the
earth
- loses something.  The resource is finite, and only its
redistribution
- decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
- yourself otherwise.  You cannot get something from nothing.

BpnJ - In General We Agree :o) ~ RHF

The Myth That BG@MS and MS Corp. Created Wealth
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cd598c99e6d4de8c
.
.

RHF

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On Mar 24, 1:09 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-

Yeah Soon with One Can of Old Campbell's Soup : You
Will Be Able To Buy $20 Old {Devalued} US Dollars
-or- One New and Improved Barack Obama Dollar [$1BOD]
-aka- One "BO" Buck -wrt- This Economy Sticks !

now is that true... 'no' ...but soon it may be ~ RHF
.
.
The-Mark-of-the-Obama© = $6.66 Gasoline :
Prez Obama's New Illegal War-for-Oil in Libya !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/814588a780549bc8
.
The Truth About $6.66 Gasoline
and The-Mark-of-the-Obama©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e68178baeabfb4c8
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=MSNTV+Operating+System

///Mope, are you kidding?///
No Sang, I am not kidding at all!
///Whatever you say, Mope///
cuhulin

m II

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> On 03/23/2011 03:28 AM, m II wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > On 11-03-20 07:46 AM, dave wrote:
> >> On 03/19/2011 05:18 PM, pyjamarama wrote:
>
>>>> Can't "give" to someone that which is theirs in the first place,
>>>> fuckwit....
>>>>
>>> The only way to create wealth is to take something, apply labor to it,
>>> and make it more valuable. That is the only way.
>>
>>

>> A long video explaining why things are the way they are.
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6076118677860424204#
>>
>
> If you can't explain it in a couple paragraphs that means it's bullshit.
> The current financial system is a house of cards. Eat the rich.
>
I thought you may demonstrate a little inteligence for once in you
sorry-assed life.

Fuck off, moron.


mike


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> real wealth while owning cash is like having a pet rock.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Right - Windows 8 will grab that wealth from Windows 7, and MS will
divert yet more wealth from people who might otherwise be satisfied
with what they have. MS gets richer, the rest of us get poorer.
Redistribution and reconcentration. It ain't new, it's just
repackaged.

Cans of soup are produced by the earth with human energy added (which
also came from the earth). If it represents wealth, it's the wealth
of the entire Earth, which then only makes up its loss when humans die
and go back to it.

m II

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On 11-03-24 06:26 AM, dave wrote:

>> Sounds like satire. Money is obsolete.
>
>
> Come for the money, stay for the Feudalism.
>
>
>
>
>
> mike
>
>
> wrote in message news:23149-4D8...@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net...
>
> Move a big bunch of Money around to doggy and I.Wealth.
> Your Born in Kenya! B HO! buddy said to spread that Wealth.Ask
> Joe the Plumber, he will tell you.
> Ask those Nigerians/Romanians doing those spam scam emails, they will
> tell you too.
> cuhulin

I guess the web TV says it all.
When will some ever listen, yeah?

moron.


mike


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Mar 24, 2011, 5:19:08 PM3/24/11
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Old country from Edwards,Missy Sippy! was mowing his yard a little while
ago with his pawn shop Smoking lawn mower.(smokers!!!) I mowed my front
yard last Sunday.So, about an hour ago I cranked up one of my lawn
mowers and I mowed my back yard.My lawn mowers do not smoke.
He BROKE my chainsaw.He pushed his pawn shop over here, he said,,, Show
me where that lawn mower oil drain plug is!
Maybe tomorrow, I will push my lawn mower around to my front yard and
clean it up and polish it.Make it Shine just like brand spankin NEW!
cuhulin, my lawn mowers and my other vehicles do not smoke

m II

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I bet he walks with a lisp also.


mike

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On Mar 24, 12:24 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:48:38 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen
>
> <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Who created the Microsoft Wealth?  Without Bill Gates, who would have
> >> created personal computing that would become a world wide success.
>
> >He did not create it so much as concentrate it.  Now, he's beginning
> >to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.
>
> That's true
>
> His web of business is a job producer---but as you say concentrates
> wealth into his hands
>
> Gates is unique
>
- The top 400 WEalthiest familes in america own/control about 95% of
all
- the wealth.  Since the late 90's (under GOP congresses) they have
- amassed hundreds of billions of dollars---yet "created" few
businesses
- that create jobs.
-
- They were allowed to make billion by "keeping their
money" (literally
- tax free) and using it to create more wealth on Wall street.  It's
the
- Ideal "dick armey" goal.  

Yoor...@Jurgis.net,

? So there were NO Democrats in the US Congress
During All Those Evil Wealth Accumulation Years !

? And the Democrats Did Not Control Either House of
the US Congress Over All Those Years of Excessive
Wealth Concentration !

? Plus there were NO Democrat US Presidents To VETO
All This Evil Wealth Accumulation During All Those Years !

Truth Be Told : "On-Average" It Is The Democrat$
Who Are The Wealthie$t and Riche$t Member$ of
the US Congre$$ -poor-little-republi¢ans-

-r-o-t-f-l- at your absurd political bias/bigotry :
liberal-lies and democrat-distortions ~ RHF
.
.
> >=============================================================
>
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:32:34 -0700 (PDT), Kurtis T. Nicklas of
> 1293 Westbrook Ave, Elon, NC 27244-9372"
>
> <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >I don't pay much attention to him these days, but I'd wager he's not
> >happy.
>
> You sure as shit paid attention when you got caught
> making all those late-night hang-up phone calls, didn't
> ya, Nickkkkers?
>
> CLICK ! ! !

cuh...@webtv.net

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I don't lisp.I don't stutter either.I don't gots no toofs.Come on doggy,
lets go front yard and poo poo pee pee.Ahh yam goin see can I find sum
Genuine Glass Cats Eye Reflectors anna dressin up your dog collar.
cuhulin, Ahh talks lak ah embullcul

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This Week is U.S.Navy Week in America.
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=U.S.+Navy+Week+Mississippi+Ray+Mabus

cuhulin, I Salute our U.S.Military Guys and Gals

cuh...@webtv.net

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If there was as much Gold and Silver and Platinum and Diamonds and Oil,
(we will never use up all of the Crude Oil on Earth) other 'Precious'
thingys, on Earth as Dirt.What would us Human Beans use for
'Money/Wealth'? If there was only a Ton of Sand on Earth, would those
little bitty Grains of Sand be Wealth?
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Waterworld movie, (one of my favorite movies) Pure High Grade Dirt was
Wealth.
(SMOKERS!!!)
cuhulin

dave

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On 3/24/2011 11:44 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

> On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
>> <Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Which is why some people create no wealth.....
>>
>> Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
>> money---they contribute nothing to society
>
>
> Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
> are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
> production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
> them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
> people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.
>
> Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
> wealth due to a lack of ability.
>
>
> Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
> created personal computing that would become a world wide success.
>

Why should investors receive dividends forever? Why not allow them a
certain return, then cash them in after a few years. .

RHF

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On Mar 24, 12:21 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:44:24 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty

>
> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
> >> Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
> >> money---they contribute nothing to society
>
> >Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
> >are considered wealth, is creating wealth.

- Haven't you heard?

Yoorghis @ Jurgis .Net :
All Your Totally Absurd Political Bias/Bigotry
-that-equals- Liberal-Lies and Democrat-Distortions
{Yep Sure Have !}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/216045918d484a74
.
- Reagan cut marginal rates intending that to happen

? So It There Was NOT a Democrat US House
a/o Democrat US Senate To STOP Reagan !
-oops-another-liberal-lie-and-democrat-distortion-

Oh Yeah Reagan Did It All On His Own By Executive
Order and By-Passed Both Houses of the US Congress
-oops-another-liberal-lie-and-democrat-distortion-

Absurd Political Bias/Bigotry = Liberal-Lies
and Democrat-Distortions
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/216045918d484a74
.
- The investor class didn't do anything----
- they amassed the money without creating businesses.

Preach That Democrat "Class Warfare" Hate Filled
Slogan Based On The Liberal Lie ! -hate-greed-envy-
.
- Then the GOP altered the entire financial structure
- in massive deregulation of money, finances, banking,
- and wall street (fannie/freddie included), and since 1998

? So It There Was NOT a Democrat US House
a/o Democrat US Senate To STOP Reagan !
-oops-another-liberal-lie-and-democrat-distortion-

WOW ! : Uber-Democrats Chis Dodd & Barney Frank
where NOT an Active Part of this Massive Deregulation ?

Oh Yeah Reagan Did It All On His Own By Executive
Order and By-Passed Both Houses of the US Congress
-oops-another-liberal-lie-and-democrat-distortion-

Absurd Political Bias/Bigotry = Liberal-Lies
and Democrat-Distortions
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/216045918d484a74
.
---the investor class has made NO attempt to create
- anything that requires workers.

Again You Are Preaching The Distorted Democrat
"Class Warfare" Hate Filled Propaganda Based On
The Liberal Lie ! -hate-greed-envy- -hate-greed-envy-
.
- It's done on paper by stock manipulation, (derivitives),
- and Wall street speculation.

= George Soros = George Soros = George Soros =
-the-evil-one-big-time-liberal-&-democrat-backer/banker-

Let's Make a List of All Those Evil Uber-Rich Republicans :
Timothy Geithner, Robert E. Rubin, Franklin Raines
Larry Summers, William Daley, William Donaldson,
Jamie Dimon, Jon Corzine, Michael Froman, Jamie Rubin,
Josh Steiner, Josh Gotbaum, Seth Harris, Kevin Thurm,
Orin Kramer, Robert Wolf, Mark Gallogly, Jim Torrey,
Brian Mathis, Frank Brosens, Sheila Bair, Laura Tyson,
Austan Goolsbee, David Cutler, Christina Romer, and
Ben Bernanke most/many of whom are re-cycled
Clintonists too... -oops-oops- -oops-oops- -oops-oops-
.
.

dave

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On 3/24/2011 11:48 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
> On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty<Then-Destroy-

>>


>> Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
>> created personal computing that would become a world wide success.
>

dave

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>>
>> If you can't explain it in a couple paragraphs that means it's
>> bullshit. The current financial system is a house of cards. Eat the rich.
>>
> I thought you may demonstrate a little inteligence for once in you
> sorry-assed life.
>
> Fuck off, moron.
>
>
>
>
> mike
>

I'm not going to watch a 90 minute movie before breakfast. I am reading
Matt Taibi's book right now. The only hope I have is that a comet kills
off 2/3 of the people. We are screwed 6 ways to sunday.

dave

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> the US Congre$$ -poor-little-republi糎ns-

dave

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On 3/24/2011 2:36 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:09:00 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>
>> wealth is a measure of both "need and work" wealth is stored work that
>> has value.
>
>
> Wealth is nothing more than money
>
> Wealth unused is worthless as a medium to argue policy that wealth
> "creates jobs"
>
> IDIOT

m II

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Your are talking to the forger. Why encourage the baby?

mike


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Do you have a Brain Cancer iPhone, or iPad Kotex Pad?

Senators call for takedown of iPhone
http://www.truthfrequencynews.com
cuhulin, the Kotex Kid Rides Again!

RHF

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> news:4d8b728f$0$2306$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com...
>
> > On 03/24/2011 09:05 AM, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> >> I wood boughts ah Ginyoowine Diamond studded dog collar furr me leetle
> >> couch buddy doggy, wit sum O' dats darr Wealth.Mannnnn,,,,, them thar
> >> Diamonds wood bee ahshinin laks crazy! outch thar enema that thar Missy
> >> Sippy Sun Light! Yesuhhhhhh,,,,,,,
> >> Jack of Diamonds,,, Jack of Diamonds,,,,,, I know you of olddd,,,,,,,,
> >> you have robbed my poor pockets of Silver and Golddddd,,,,,,,
>
> >> More Traces of Radiation Found in U.S.States
> >>http://www.rense.com
> >> River Red and Ohwegone, y'all hassa dun jined the Atomic Radiation list,
> >> Yapanee Nuke stuff.
> >> cuhulin
>
> I bet he walks with a lisp also.
>
> mike

Nah a 'Limp' -a-la- Grand-Pa Amos Mc Coy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFjQ1Dmqks

-fwiw- 'Kate' McCoy {Kathleen Nolan} and Ronald
Reagan both has something in common . . .
.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 7:49:39 PM3/24/11
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I had a Motorola ATRIX Brain Cancer phone with the Motorola ATRIX laptop
dock.Eff that!, I took that Sheet Back to the AT&T SUCKS!!!!!!! store,
about 275 of my foot steps South of doggy's couch.I don't need that
SHEET!

Chemtrails: There's An App For That
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=305032

Remember what I have Said before about those so-called
'Meteorologist/Weather people'? THEY DON'T KNOW SHEET!!!! They
(''They'') are part of the U.S.COMMUNIST MINISTRY OF PROPAGANDA!!!
cuhulin

dave

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Mar 24, 2011, 7:01:35 PM3/24/11
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On 03/24/2011 03:45 PM, m II wrote:

>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>
>> I'm not going to watch a 90 minute movie before breakfast. I am reading
>> Matt Taibi's book right now. The only hope I have is that a comet kills
>> off 2/3 of the people. We are screwed 6 ways to sunday.
>
>
>
> Your are talking to the forger. Why encourage the baby?
>
>
>
> mike
>
>

I figured that out eventually. I thought it seemed out of character,
chalked it up to PTSD.

dave

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Mar 24, 2011, 7:03:36 PM3/24/11
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They are trying to lower the temperatures so the global warming doesn't
look so bad on paper. Again we are screwed.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Mar 24, 2011, 8:59:02 PM3/24/11
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Chupracabra Churro, where you at? (he will pipe up in a while)
This morning on his Super Talk Missy Sippy radio talk show, Paul Gallo
was talking about your Fake Fraud Phoney Chupracabras.Who ever thought
up that Dumb name abyway? Chupracabra.
cuhulin, not a Chupracabra

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Mar 24, 2011, 9:30:35 PM3/24/11
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On 3/24/2011 7:01 PM, dave wrote:
> On 03/24/2011 03:45 PM, m II wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not going to watch a 90 minute movie before breakfast. I am reading
>>> Matt Taibi's book right now. The only hope I have is that a comet kills
>>> off 2/3 of the people. We are screwed 6 ways to sunday.


Well at least there's still hope.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Mar 24, 2011, 9:36:02 PM3/24/11
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Gates created a successful version.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Mar 24, 2011, 9:47:46 PM3/24/11
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On 3/24/2011 4:51 PM, RHF wrote:
> On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
> Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>> On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
>>> Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>>
>>>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>>>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Which is why some people create no wealth.....
>>
>>>>> Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
>>>>> money---they contribute nothing to society
>>
>>>> Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
>>>> are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
>>>> production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
>>>> them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
>>>> people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.
>>
>>>> Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
>>>> wealth due to a lack of ability.
>>
>>>> Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
>>>> created personal computing that would become a world wide success.
>>
> - - He did not create it so much as concentrate it.


All the millionaires on Bill Gates coat tails probably think gates
created opportunity.

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