Lost Opportunity and Update
Ken Fortenberry
round of the new chemo today. My January remission went into
remission and the kidney disease came back stronger than ever.
My auto-immune system must be as ornery as I am and it's my poor
kidneys that are being attacked.
Since the CellCept and prednisone didn't work we decided on a
cycle of Rituximab. There was a very small chance that it could
have caused a fatal allergic reaction but now that I'm done
with the first one I'm in no danger going forward. Hopefully
this will be the cure.
I'm pretty pooped right now and I'll take a rest tomorrow but
the plans are now to go fishing, camping and canoeing until I
have to report back to the lab.
--
Ken Fortenberry
DanPopp
wrote:
Even though you're a Budweiser drinking Cardinal fan I wish you well.
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> the plans are now to go fishing, camping and canoeing until I
>> have to report back to the lab.
>
Thanks, Dan. There's not much I can do about being a Cardinal fan,
you cannot grow up where I did and not be a Cardinal fan. I might
have to dump the Budweiser though. If InBev succeeds in their hostile
takeover of the brewery no Anheuser-Busch product will ever knowingly
pass my lips again. If I were to drink beer from "The Brewery" (in
St. Louis the Anheuser-Busch brewery is simply "The Brewery") knowing
it was owned by Belgians, and foreign Belgians at that !! my German-
American ancestors would spin in their graves so hard the Gateway Arch
would topple into the Mississippi.
--
Ken Fortenberry
yoker
You are in my prayers. Peace and recovery to you.
Yoker
Richard Morris
"Ken Fortenberry" <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote in message
news:Biadk.11872$cW3....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
And I am genuinely sorry to hear that you continue to have problems.
Richard
Edwin Hurwitz
Ken Fortenberry <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
Good luck and enjoy the fishing, etc!
Edwin
--
If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your
enemies.
-Moshe Dayan
The Iron Muffin
Best of luck, Ken!
Healing vibes and positive energy from Western Massachusetts.
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The Iron Muffin
DEAD FREAKS UNITE
Who are you? Where are you?
How are you?
SkyYellow...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Healing vibes are heading downstate from Chi-town! Fuck that kidney
disease shit.
Neil X.
wrote:
Good luck to you, Ken. Rituximab is actually one of the safest
chemotherapy agents. In the absence of the allergic response that you
have already avoided, it is simply an innocuous protein (antibody)
binding to the surface of B cells, and preventing them from becoming
inappropriately activated. So you should not be too inconvenienced by
the therapy.
Peace,
Neil X.
DGDevin
> Some of you will be distressed to learn that I survived my first
> round of the new chemo today.
Holy crap, check a map of the solar system Mr. F., notice you aren't at the
center. Do you seriously believe that because some folks hold political
views that differ from yours and perhaps dislike the manner in which you
express yourself at times that they would wish for your death? Jeez, dial
it back to mild egomania before you pull a muscle.
Good luck with the treatment you prickly self-obsessed blowhard.
gwatts
> ...My January remission went into
> remission and the kidney disease came back stronger than ever.
> cycle of Rituximab...
I've had quite a few friends, acquaintances and relatives with
auto-immune illnesses varying from skin rashes to allergies to
rheumatoid arthritis to lupus. In all but the skin rash case they
received some to great benefit from augmenting their biochemical
treatment with acupuncture. In the case of the allergies and the
arthritis they were able to stop taking shots and drugs entirely and
relied on a monthly perforating as the only treatment with the result of
complete remission of the allergies and joint pain only after strenuous,
physical activity in the arthritis case.
Give acupuncture serious consideration along with the Rituximab. I was
skeptical at first but saw a woman go from weeks of agony and sneezing
in the spring and fall to flower arranging and rolling in piles of
leaves. It was covered on her health insurance, too!
Rogues Island's finest
I was totally JUST gonna say all that stuff!
Be well Ken, and why exactly do you have to report back to your dog?
Mark
Bzl.
Carlisle
shows antipathy for this entire newsgroup and in a quick pivot posts a
new thread about the on-going saga of his health issues and the
welcoming of attention and healing vibes. Frankly my dear I don't give
a damn. We all have problems and we all have heartache!
Rogues Island's finest
Oh boy, here we go. I have the over/under at 150 posts.
Mark
Bzl.
"Carlisle" <carri...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:22e361c8-ea80-4b6e...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Lovely sentiment.
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> <snip>
>> I'm pretty pooped right now and I'll take a rest tomorrow but
>> the plans are now to go fishing, camping and canoeing until I
>> have to report back to the lab.
>
> Good luck to you, Ken. Rituximab is actually one of the safest
> chemotherapy agents. In the absence of the allergic response that you
> have already avoided, it is simply an innocuous protein (antibody)
> binding to the surface of B cells, and preventing them from becoming
> inappropriately activated. So you should not be too inconvenienced by
> the therapy.
Thanks Neil, and thanks to all for the good vibes.
The first round took over 7 hours but that was only because
they have to go slow with the first one until they find out
it won't kill you. From now on I should be in and out of chemo
in less than 4 hours. The day after will never be one of my
better days, but other than that you're absolutely right, not
much of an inconvenience at all ... if it works.
--
Ken Fortenberry
Ken Fortenberry
> Carlisle the Killer Queen spewed:
>> Oh. my. god. I can't believe this guy!.. <snip>
>
> Oh boy, here we go. ...
LOL !! Mr. Wheat, meet Ms. Chaff. ;-)
--
Ken Fortenberry
Carlisle
I have the audacity to voice what countless others have got to be
thinking. I'm going to send some "healing vibes" (prayers) over to
some people in Darfur Sudan today, thank you.
Carlisle
> "Carlisle" <carrie-...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
Yeah Ken is full of them too.
"I wouldn't piss down her throat if her stomach was on fire !!"
JimK
You obviously haven't watched enough of these threads, fan boy. The
O/U should be at least 200. You might want to reconsider your first
option.
JimK
Paul L
Best of Luck, Ken.
The fishing sounds like the right thing to do.
cheers
Paul
wyeknot
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:34:24 -0700 (PDT), "Rogues Island's finest"
>
> >On Jul 10, 10:25 am, Carlisle <carrie-...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> >> Oh. my. god. I can't believe this guy!..he spews venom, taunts people,
> >> shows antipathy for this entire newsgroup and in a quick pivot posts a
> >> new thread about the on-going saga of his health issues and the
> >> welcoming of attention and healing vibes. Frankly my dear I don't give
> >> a damn. We all have problems and we all have heartache!
>
> >Oh boy, here we go. I have the over/under at 150 posts.
>
> O/U should be at least 200. You might want to reconsider your first
> option.
He doesn't watch these threads during the regular season, only in the
playoffs. Fair-weather fanboy, shit-weasel, he is.
Just wait until he complains about the officiating. Oy vei, someone
pass the Rituximab.
Matt
Dave Kelly
"Kent Dingleberry" <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote in message
news:Biadk.11872$cW3....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Some of you will be distressed to learn that I survived my first
> round of the new chemo today. My January remission went into
> remission and the kidney disease came back stronger than ever.
Bummer.
I'll send you the same vibes you sent my mom
when I mentioned she had cancer...
Karma's a bitch, aint it Kenny boy?
Carlisle
One memorable thing my dad said last year was that "they don't have to
worry that chemo will ever be used as a recreational drug."
Ken Fortenberry
> Bummer.
> I'll send you the same vibes you sent my mom
> when I mentioned she had cancer...
> Karma's a bitch, aint it Kenny boy?
I didn't send your mom anything at all. You, I sent the
worst I could muster. And you deserved every bit of it.
But you've kinda grown on me since then, sorta like a
friendly fungus between the toes, ya know what I mean ?
--
Ken Fortenberry
wyeknot
Matt
Lfh
> >Oh boy, here we go. I have the over/under at 150 posts.
>
> >Mark
>
> You obviously haven't watched enough of these threads, fan boy. The
> O/U should be at least 200. You might want to reconsider your first
> option.
Oh, for fuck's sake. You two are the *last* one's who should be saying
*anything* about over/unders, as you both are just about the most mean-
spirited, nasty, brutish, and short over/under posters around these
parts.
This thread is over in six games.
Fred
Dave Kelly
> I didn't send your mom anything at all. You, I sent the
> worst I could muster. And you deserved every bit of it.
>
> But you've kinda grown on me since then, sorta like a
> friendly fungus between the toes, ya know what I mean ?
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry
I'll say it again...
Karma's a BITCH...aint it, Kenny boy?
I mean, I'm no doctor...but I CANT imagine all that
hate inside of you is going to speed up your recovery.
On the contrary.
Have a nice day.
Rogues Island's finest
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:34:24 -0700 (PDT), "Rogues Island's finest"
>
> >On Jul 10, 10:25 am, Carlisle <carrie-...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> >> Oh. my. god. I can't believe this guy!..he spews venom, taunts people,
> >> shows antipathy for this entire newsgroup and in a quick pivot posts a
> >> new thread about the on-going saga of his health issues and the
> >> welcoming of attention and healing vibes. Frankly my dear I don't give
> >> a damn. We all have problems and we all have heartache!
>
> >Oh boy, here we go. I have the over/under at 150 posts.
>
> >Mark
>
> You obviously haven't watched enough of these threads, fan boy. The
> O/U should be at least 200. You might want to reconsider your first
> option.
Stop biting my ankles.
Mark
Ken Fortenberry
> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
>> I didn't send your mom anything at all. You, I sent the
>> worst I could muster. And you deserved every bit of it.
>>
>> But you've kinda grown on me since then, sorta like a
>> friendly fungus between the toes, ya know what I mean ?
>
> Karma's a BITCH...aint it, Kenny boy?
Say it all you want but you should realize that when friends
and family are fair game for your brand of over the top, over
the line, insult "humor" it's a karmic bitch when it comes
back to bite you on the tit.
You have a good day.
--
Ken Fortenberry
theothr1
MLfromRMGD
>
> I'll say it again...
> Karma's a BITCH...aint it, Kenny boy?
> I mean, I'm no doctor...but I CANT imagine all that
> hate inside of you is going to speed up your recovery.
> On the contrary.
> Have a nice day.
Sweets is right.
I'm taking a break from this place,
primarily because of you,
but one last post.
May you find good health and do well
with treatment.
Ken Fortenberry
> "Dave Kelly" <sweet...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> I'll say it again...
>> Karma's a BITCH...aint it, Kenny boy?
>
Sure he is. But the one thing Sweets hasn't come to grips
with is that one of the folks on rmgd who abhors Dave Kelly
style insult "humor" the most is Dave Kelly. Or to put it
another way, he can dish it but he can't take it.
> I'm taking a break from this place,
> primarily because of you,
> but one last post.
> May you find good health and do well
> with treatment.
Thanks Mary, and don't stay away on my account. I'm actually
quite harmless.
--
Ken Fortenberry
Richard Morris
"Ken Fortenberry" <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote in message
news:TOrdk.8089$L_....@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> MLfromRMGD wrote:
>> "Dave Kelly" <sweet...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> I'll say it again...
>>> Karma's a BITCH...aint it, Kenny boy?
>>
>> Sweets is right.
>
> Sure he is. But the one thing Sweets hasn't come to grips
> with is that one of the folks on rmgd who abhors Dave Kelly
> style insult "humor" the most is Dave Kelly. Or to put it
> another way, he can dish it but he can't take it.
Pot, meet kettle. Perhaps both of you ought to take a quick karma check.
Avant Grape
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>
>> Some of you will be distressed to learn that I survived my first
>> round of the new chemo today.
>
> center. Do you seriously believe that because some folks hold political
> views that differ from yours and perhaps dislike the manner in which you
> express yourself at times that they would wish for your death? Jeez, dial
> it back to mild egomania before you pull a muscle.
>
> Good luck with the treatment you prickly self-obsessed blowhard.
>
>
Ditto. No one wishes the worst for Ken in that regard. But, I find the
timing of this post a bit manipulative. It reminds me quite a bit of
some of Carrie's posts regarding her father during a time when she
inspiring quite a bit of negativity.
That said, I hope Ken gets through this period all right, and I suspect
he will.
-JC
Carlisle
wrote:
Unreal. Do you think of me when you are away from the computer moniter
as well? My world was caving in and I'm not in Ken's league blessed
with thick-skinned oblivion. I regret even mentioning what I was going
through thanks to you. You can be a very unforgiving and yes cruel
person. You are no better IMHO than Kint Dingleberry.
>
> That said, I hope Ken gets through this period all right, and I suspect
> he will.
>
> -JC
I hope and pray for everyone in the world!
Dave Kelly
> insult "humor" it's a karmic bitch when it comes
> back to bite you on the tit.
* Oh RIGHT....my mom had breast cancer...good one!
Remember...karma is a BITCH!...aint that right, Kenny boy?
> You have a good day.
* I will...sounds like you have a rocky road ahead...
You should REALLY get some sleep, Dingleberry.
Avant Grape
Davey A to the K...
...keepin' it REAL, YO!
-JC
Ken Fortenberry
> <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
>> insult "humor" it's a karmic bitch when it comes
>> back to bite you on the tit.
>
> * Oh RIGHT....my mom had breast cancer...good one!
> Remember...karma is a BITCH!...aint that right, Kenny boy?
You would know.
>> You have a good day.
>
> * I will...sounds like you have a rocky road ahead...
> You should REALLY get some sleep, Dingleberry.
Yes, it's a rocky road ahead and your concern is touching.
Right now my puppy needs to go for a swim. She's a real
hoot and just the kind of silly, energetic, bundle of life
and joy I need right now. Puppies are cool, the Usenet version
of Don Rickles, not so much.
Good Day, Don.
--
Ken Fortenberry
wyeknot
> You are no better IMHO than Kint Dingleberry.
Well, JC *is* better at talking "street", dig???
Matt
Carlisle
Well, Dingleberry can probably tie a slicker fly !!
~
Avant Grape
Better than the Cat-Killa himself???
Damn, thanks man.
-JC
RickNBarbInSD
> "Carlisle" <carrie-...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>
> news:22e361c8-ea80-4b6e...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > shows antipathy for this entire newsgroup and in a quick pivot posts a
> > new thread about the on-going saga of his health issues and the
> > welcoming of attention and healing vibes. Frankly my dear I don't give
> > a damn. We all have problems and we all have heartache!
>
Touching, isn't it? : O
Good luck with the treatment, Ken. Sorry to hear the news. Best
regards to you and yours.
Rick
sacha
dishonor Helms, you are still a #1 choice guy in my books....
Good luck dude.
Go Illini!
LP
<kenfortenbe...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
> Dave Kelly wrote:
> > Bummer.
> > I'll send you the same vibes you sent my mom
> > when I mentioned she had cancer...
> > Karma's a bitch, aint it Kenny boy?
>
> I didn't send your mom anything at all. You, I sent the
> worst I could muster. And you deserved every bit of it.
>
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.gdead/msg/64cb7a09e3580f69?hl=en
Jun 22 2005, 10:59 am
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Ken Fortenberry <kenfortenbe...@ameritech.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:59:05 GMT
Local: Wed, Jun 22 2005 10:59 am
Subject: Re: Common Virus Kills Cancer Cells (NDC)
Dave Kelly wrote:
> Sorry to hear that...my mom got diagnosed last week.
> She had breast cancer in '74....had it taken off...
So you got bigger tits than your mom ?
HA !! No wonder you're such a bitch.
--
Ken Fortenberry
mjd
come on, Mary, you serious? I've apparently missed some recent
threads, but Ken is just one of those he-is-what-he-is kind of guys.
Why would you let him chase you away?
just my opinion, take it or leave it, but don't leave on his account.
Not defending Ken's rant or malicious bent, but he does have one
saying I agree with - embrace the chaos!
JA
"Ken Fortenberry" <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote in message
news:Biadk.11872$cW3....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Some of you will be distressed to learn that I survived my first
> remission and the kidney disease came back stronger than ever.
> kidneys that are being attacked.
>
> Since the CellCept and prednisone didn't work we decided on a
> cycle of Rituximab. There was a very small chance that it could
> have caused a fatal allergic reaction but now that I'm done
> with the first one I'm in no danger going forward. Hopefully
> this will be the cure.
>
> I'm pretty pooped right now and I'll take a rest tomorrow but
> the plans are now to go fishing, camping and canoeing until I
> have to report back to the lab.
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry
Sorry to hear about your remission.
Last year this time I was in the depths of Crohn's disease, had lost 60 lbs.
in a short time.
Lucky for me I had great health care and today I'm doing very well.
I wish you the same good fortune.
JA
Neil X.
Uh, dude........
Peace,
Neil X.
Thomas Beck
"Rogues Island's finest" <mth...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:04ec37d3-8886-4402...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
Oh boy, here we go. I have the over/under at 150 posts.
Mark
I'll take the over for $100 BZ!
Tom
--
"Ain't it just like the night ..."
Lfh
> > just my opinion, take it or leave it, but don't leave on his account.
> > Not defending Ken's rant or malicious bent, but he does have one
> > saying I agree with - embrace the chaos!
>
> Uh, dude........
Heh. I was gonna say. How'd a guy who does his best to antagonize
everyone he can and then killfiles all the folks he deems "ankle
biters" because they jump on his hook be deemed as someone "embracing
the chaos"? And, say, how does it feel to confused with Ken?
Fred
Ken Fortenberry
> mjd <mdevenn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...
>> just my opinion, take it or leave it, but don't leave on his account.
>> Not defending Ken's rant or malicious bent, but he does have one
>> saying I agree with - embrace the chaos!
>
> Uh, dude........
Yeah, credit where credit's due, I lifted that one from Neil.
I don't really know from where Neil lifted it. ;-)
As for rants one doesn't want to read, that's what killfiles
are for.
--
Ken Fortenberry
Douglas T Lilley
> "Rogues Island's finest" <mthi...@cox.net> wrote in messagenews:04ec37d3-8886-4402...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>
> Oh boy, here we go. I have the over/under at 150 posts.
>
> Mark
>
> I'll take the over for $100 BZ!
>
Bet with Andrew, he actually pays when he loses.
mjd
>
> - Show quoted text -
doh! sorry Neil... at the rate I'm going my long-term memory is about
a week, so the fact that I thought that was Ken's phrase was actually
pretty impressive...
Richard Morris
Don't tempt me.
Carlisle
"RickNBarbInSD" <rickd...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:830875fa-3aab-4059...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Rick
Honetly Rick, have you read what Ken has typed the last few days alone? Do
you care that he hurt a vulnerable lady's feeling with a casual cruelty that
I find frankly appalling. And no I'm not talking about myself here, I have
no reason to defend her, it just is. That's just one very recent example.
Mike was correct in that Ken has a "malicious bent" so when he turns around
the next day and seeking more healing vibes, it just hit me the wrong way. I
knew I'd get some flak for speaking up. Anyway think about it, this weekend,
Ken is going "fly fishing, canoeing and camping." Sounds like he's doing all
right after all. Probably in no more pain or worry than many of us reading
this newsgroup today. One of my best friends from college is fighting for
her life. She turned 40 on July 9th (date of the final Dead show as she
liked to point out), her breast cancer has spread into her brain. It's
inoperable, okay. A group of us were all to get together at the Jersey shore
this summer. At the same time, my sister's best friend who I love a lot is
in a fight for her from an aggressive breast cancer. These two gals do
nothing but try and bring joy to people's lives. Touching, indeed.
SkyYellow...@hotmail.com
Ken, I forgot to mention.........last week, I caught a 19.5"
smallmouth, over 5 lbs, a new personal record for myself. Not on a
flyrod, there would be no way I could've landed it if I was using one.
Put up a tremendous battle. Cripes, I love smallies!!
Avant Grape
*shaking head*
Wow.
-JC
Carlisle
wrote:
> Carlisle wrote:
>
> > "RickNBarbInSD" <rickdowl...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah *wow* indeed, John. That's what I thought we you brought up what
happened to my father last year again in this very thread. You are a
passive-aggressive little punk ass bitch who thinks he's somehow "down
with the brothas" because you grew up in a mixed neighborhood and have
supposedly have some Indian blood. Oy vey, get over yourself. Notice
please that I do not talk to you or about you..I do at times respond
back though. Check yourself.
Lfh
> Yeah *wow* indeed, John. That's what I thought we you brought up what
> happened to my father last year again in this very thread. You are a
> passive-aggressive little punk ass bitch who thinks he's somehow "down
> with the brothas" because you grew up in a mixed neighborhood and have
> supposedly have some Indian blood. Oy vey, get over yourself. Notice
> please that I do not talk to you or about you..I do at times respond
> back though. Check yourself.
Oh, fer fuck's sake. This is such unmitigated bullshit, *clearly* an
attempt to push up the thread count to exceed the over/under Mark set.
He fucking must have been filming the damn signals because its clear
that the Rogue fruit don't fall far from the Belichick tree. Fucking
with the conditions at the arena, fake blood, taping the opposing
team's signals and walkthroughs, it's clear that these damn New
England types are up to no good. And now this.
Asterisk, asterisk, asterisk . . .
Fred
Avant Grape
LOL
Little, eh? You and Kenny-boy are cut from the same cloth.
-JC
Avant Grape
BTW, do you even get how pathetic this post sounds? Who the fuck here
knows your two friends or how much joy they bring to people's lives???
Talk about absurd, girlfriend. It's not like anyone is going to take
your word for it anyway. You claim the same crap about yourself, and
yet you're in here daily playing ScaryCarrie. Now, it's quite sad that
anyone's friend would be sick, and I sure as hell don't wish cancer even
on my worst on enemies, but get some fucking perspective, would ya? Ken
posts here daily. Like him or not (and I think he's a mentally ill twit
myself), it's not uncommon for people to wish another group member well
in the fight with a given illness. It's just courtesy. Yet here you
are, looking for a way to gather sympathy in your battle against Ken,
simply because you can't handle that people agree with him about YOU.
Get a grip. I can't even believe what you wrote. Once again, it's all
about you. The world revolves around Carrie. Get it? Well, no, you
don't. So all I can do is laugh.
-JC
The Iron Muffin
<snip>
Wow. Definitely narcissism. Note how Ken's illness isn't so bad in
this psychotic bitch's mind, simply because someone else she knows
has breast cancer.
Here's a free clue, you insane piece of shit:
The world goes on without you. Everyone here has their own lives,
completely independent of you and your self-obsession.
Get over yourself.
--
The Iron Muffin
DEAD FREAKS UNITE
Who are you? Where are you?
How are you?
Rogues Island's finest
65.
Mark
ML
address.> wrote:
> Creepy Cracker Carlisle wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Wow. Definitely narcissism. Note how Ken's illness isn't so bad in
> this psychotic bitch's mind, simply because someone else she knows
> has breast cancer.
>
> Here's a free clue, you insane piece of shit:
>
> The world goes on without you. Everyone here has their own lives,
> completely independent of you and your self-obsession.
>
> Get over yourself.
>
> --
> The Iron Muffin
Have to say something, cause I feel it strongly.
One LAST post, then, no matter what,
I'm outta here for a needed break.
Carrie is the only person to speak up
truly for me in this thread. None of my
"friends" did. And that says something about
her that is lost on you...She and Dave have it right.
I tried to leave on the high road and wish KF well anyway.
But do I think he deserves it? HELL no.
He lied, scathingly even for him, and yes it hurt me deeply.
And that was nothing compared to what he said about DK's mom.
THAT is an example of an insane piece of shit.
His list of atrocities is a long one, and will continue.
If your Inner Light justifies it somehow, groovy.
Carlisle
You ain't laughing and you actually agreed with part of my original
sentiment. You admitted as much about Ken being manipulative about
posting this thread when he did once again. Of course in your
signature fashion you had to bring up what happened in the final few
months of my father's life. Don't talk to me about courtesy, MFer. The
world revolves around *you*, JC. You are like the Zelig of this
newsgroup, you know everything, you've experienced everything and
dammit you a brotha, yo! We'll just have to take your word for it. My
mistake is not totally ignoring you as I now do the Bitter Bagel; you
are a master-baiter, kid. HTH.
~
Ken Fortenberry
>
> Ken, I forgot to mention.........last week, I caught a 19.5"
> smallmouth, over 5 lbs, a new personal record for myself.
Congrats !! That's one heck of a smallie. I love that area
up in Northern Wisconsin. Glad to hear you had a good time
up there. Me and the new pup will be headed that way real
soon now.
> Not on a
> flyrod, there would be no way I could've landed it if I was using one.
> Put up a tremendous battle. Cripes, I love smallies!!
It depends on the fly rod, of course. I use 6 wts and 7 wts
for smallies up there. Here at home I can even get away with
a 5 wt, but the only way I'll ever see a 5 lb. smallie here
in central Illinois is if you send me a photo. ;-) Yeah, I
love bronzebacks too, a great fighting game fish.
Congrats again on the new PR !
--
Ken Fortenberry
Ken Fortenberry
> Have to say something, cause I feel it strongly.
> One LAST post, then, no matter what,
> I'm outta here for a needed break.
> Carrie is the only person to speak up
> truly for me in this thread. None of my
> "friends" did. And that says something about
> her that is lost on you...
Actually, that says something which is lost on *you*.
> She and Dave have it right.
> I tried to leave on the high road and wish KF well anyway.
> But do I think he deserves it? HELL no.
Too bad you decided against the "high road" while you were
here. If you're going to jump into arguments by impugning
someone else's character, as you jumped into the Helms thread
impugning mine, you should expect that your right to impugn
someone else's character will be challenged.
> He lied, scathingly even for him, and yes it hurt me deeply.
No, I didn't lie. I thought you were creepy when I got your
second email and I still think so. I know you don't *intend*
to be creepy, but nonetheless you creeped me out.
> And that was nothing compared to what he said about DK's mom.
Now there you go lying. I've never said a single word about
Kelly's mom.
Thin skins don't last long around here, Mary. Take a break, put
me in your killfile and then come back with a thicker skin.
--
Ken Fortenberry
mjd
Ken that's pretty disingenuous even for you. Sort of like 'the
meaning of the word 'is' is'. You asked a question about something of
his compared to something of his mom's; ok, you didn't direct any
epithets to his mom per se, but the context of your entire exchange
was so far beneath contempt it came out the other side of contempt, so
don't try to spin it otherwise by saying you never said a word about
her.
Dave Kelly
> Now there you go lying. I've never said a single word about
> Kelly's mom.
>
> Thin skins don't last long around here, Mary. Take a break, put
> me in your killfile and then come back with a thicker skin.
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry
Let's get this straight now.
I never fucked anybody over in my life
who didn't have it coming. You got that?
All I have in this world is my balls
and my word and I don't break them...
...for no one, you understand?
That piece of shit up here, Dingleberry...that animal.
I never like him, I never trusted him.
For all I know, he had me set up and
had my friend, Angel Fernandez, killed.
But that's history.
Just remember......I'll only tell you one time...
Don't you EVER try to fuck me!
Neil X.
>
> Have to say something, cause I feel it strongly.
> One LAST post, then, no matter what,
> I'm outta here for a needed break.
> Carrie is the only person to speak up
> truly for me in this thread. None of my
> "friends" did.
You expect other people to "speak up" for you??? That's YOUR job, and
it cannot be delegated.
Peace,
Neil X.
mr rapidan
> "Ken Fortenberry" <kenfortenbe...@trashameritech.net> wrote in message
You come from the gutter. You know that.
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> ML wrote:
>>> And that was nothing compared to what he said about DK's mom.
>> Now there you go lying. I've never said a single word about
>> Kelly's mom.
>
My comments were directed to and all about Kelly. To spin it
any other way, especially to spin it as me saying something
about Kelly's mom, is more than disingenuous it's a baldfaced
lie.
--
Ken Fortenberry
LP
Jun 22 2005, 10:59 am
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Ken Fortenberry <kenfortenbe...@ameritech.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:59:05 GMT
Local: Wed, Jun 22 2005 10:59 am
Subject: Re: Common Virus Kills Cancer Cells (NDC)
Dave Kelly wrote:
> Sorry to hear that...my mom got diagnosed last week.
> She had breast cancer in '74....had it taken off...
So you got bigger tits than your mom ?
HA !! No wonder you're such a bitch.
--
Ken Fortenberry
volkfolk
>
> - Show quoted text -
But according to Ken I am one of the most "mean spirited, foul
tempered antagonists" on rmgd.
On my best day I don't come close to this nitwit.
Scot
LP
You're almost Mother Theresa by comparison to him.
LP
Ken Fortenberry
> LP <so.you...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>> mjd wrote:
>>>> Ken that's pretty disingenuous even for you. ...
>>> My comments were directed to and all about Kelly. To spin it
>>> any other way, especially to spin it as me saying something
>>> about Kelly's mom, is more than disingenuous it's a baldfaced
>>> lie.
>>> --
>>> Ken Fortenberry
>> ******************************
>> Jun 22 2005, 10:59 am
>>
>> Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
>> From: Ken Fortenberry <kenfortenbe...@ameritech.net>
>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:59:05 GMT
>> Local: Wed, Jun 22 2005 10:59 am
>> Subject: Re: Common Virus Kills Cancer Cells (NDC)
>>
>> Dave Kelly wrote:
>>> Sorry to hear that...my mom got diagnosed last week.
>>> She had breast cancer in '74....had it taken off...
>> So you got bigger tits than your mom ?
>>
>> HA !! No wonder you're such a bitch.
>> --
>> Ken Fortenberry
>
> tempered antagonists" on rmgd.
>
> On my best day I don't come close to this nitwit.
There's 15 words in that post. (and thanks to the ankle biter
for doing the archive work.) Find one, just one fucking word
out of the 15, that is not addressed to and about Dave Kelly.
My comments were directed to and all about Kelly. To spin it
any other way, especially to spin it as me saying something
about Kelly's mom, is more than disingenuous it's a baldfaced
lie.
I've already posted why I was pissed enough to post that, I
won't post it again. (maybe an ankle biter can search the archives.)
But it makes no difference if I was pissed, or if I was drunk,
or whatever. I posted it, I put my name to it, and Kelly
deserved every bit of it. But I will not abide snide lies accusing
me of saying something about Kelly's mom. I did not.
--
Ken Fortenberry
Richard Morris
"Ken Fortenberry" <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote in message
news:j0Pdk.14290$jI5....@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com...
> ML wrote:
>> Have to say something, cause I feel it strongly.
>> One LAST post, then, no matter what,
>> I'm outta here for a needed break.
>> Carrie is the only person to speak up
>> truly for me in this thread. None of my
>> "friends" did. And that says something about
>> her that is lost on you...
>
> Actually, that says something which is lost on *you*.
>
>> She and Dave have it right.
>> I tried to leave on the high road and wish KF well anyway.
>> But do I think he deserves it? HELL no.
>
> Too bad you decided against the "high road" while you were
> here. If you're going to jump into arguments by impugning
> someone else's character, as you jumped into the Helms thread
> impugning mine, you should expect that your right to impugn
> someone else's character will be challenged.
>
>> He lied, scathingly even for him, and yes it hurt me deeply.
>
> No, I didn't lie. I thought you were creepy when I got your
> second email and I still think so. I know you don't *intend*
> to be creepy, but nonetheless you creeped me out.
>
>> And that was nothing compared to what he said about DK's mom.
>
> Now there you go lying. I've never said a single word about
> Kelly's mom.
Sorry Ken, but that simply is not true. The post you made has been quoted
twice in this thread. How you can construe using the words, "your mother"
in reference to Dave's mom as not saying a word about her is deranged
thinking. Further, your tweak of Dave in the post, in context, relied on
her having had a mastectomy. You used Dave's mother's medical condition to
mock Dave. You can try to twist around it, you can deny, you can bluster
and bullshit, but I will bet that there is not one person besides you on
this newsgroup that will not see it as I have described it and interpreted
it.
> Thin skins don't last long around here, Mary. Take a break, put
> me in your killfile and then come back with a thicker skin.
Ah yes ... the old "suit of armor" routine. Why should Mary need to don a
thicker skin just to be in the newsgroup? Why, instead, don't you pull back
from some of the vicious, unpleasant bile that you spew here from time to
time? The newsgroup would be a more pleasant place, and we all might enjoy
interacting with you a whole lot more than we do now.
LP
The word "mom" is about Dave's MOM you delusional sack.
> My comments were directed to and all about Kelly. To spin it
> any other way, especially to spin it as me saying something
> about Kelly's mom, is more than disingenuous it's a baldfaced
> lie.
>
> I've already posted why I was pissed enough to post that, I
> won't post it again. (maybe an ankle biter can search the archives.)
> But it makes no difference if I was pissed, or if I was drunk,
> or whatever. I posted it, I put my name to it, and Kelly
> deserved every bit of it. But I will not abide snide lies accusing
> me of saying something about Kelly's mom. I did not.
If he doesn't think that adresses DK's mom, then he really is a
delusional psychopath. But we already knew that.
LP
LP
wrote:
> "Ken Fortenberry" <kenfortenbe...@trashameritech.net> wrote in message
In the past, I had engaged in threads along with Ken, at times being
in agreement with him. It was after repeated and unprovoked ANKLE
BITING posts that I finally had enough of the guy. Even in the
Budweiser threads I tried being civil to him, but he will have none of
it. He sees in others what he hates about himself.
LP
Ken Fortenberry
> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
>> I've never said a single word about
>> Kelly's mom.
>
> Sorry Ken, but that simply is not true.
I've never said a single word about Kelly's mom.
Take the 15 word test.
--
Ken Fortenberry
Octopus Ride
"Richard Morris" <jrmo...@trouserscomcast.net> wrote in message
news:o7adnaEubfSBRurV...@comcast.com...
Richard is of course correct.
This Ken person's first resort when criticized in this group is to
immediately go after someone's health, because its real life and very
personal. Kelly's example is plain as day. Just the other day Dingleberry
tried the same thing on me; claiming I was "sick and weakly", among other
things. He was obviously attempting to really bum me out in a real life way
with that shot. Now where he got that idea I'll never know. But if I was
sick and weakly, that would have been a seriously low blow. That sort of
insult goes well beyond any reasonable standard of behavior, here or
anywhere else. He does it because it can really hurt; its not like calling
someone Dingleberry or clown or dimwit.
Its really odd considering that this Ken person is so ill himself. Normally
people who are ill are sensitive to the health concerns of others. I know
that when I was actually sick and weakly several years ago what got me all
hopped up was the lack of treatment or plain old bad treatment that other
sick people in this country had to endure. Yet this Ken person, in the
throes of a serious illness, doesn't take that approach or take an approach
of ignoring the subject altogether; he strikes out at others he knows or
incorrectly assumes are also ill with shots about their real or imagined
condition. He's ill himself, but he uses the illnesses of others as a
weapon against them. I can't think of anything more uncool.
He is the only person I have ever read on this group that stoops to such a
level. He's fortunate that's the case, as I doubt he would feel very good
if he were to sit down here one morning and find posts making fun of his
medical condition or of the medical condition of a loved one. There's
plenty of well known ammo available in that area for posters to use in his
case and others; but as far as I know no one but him as ever used such
garbage as a weapon.
And there can be no doubt about this: the condition of people who are
seriously ill is not helped by raging anger or leveling low blows at other
sick people. An upbeat outlook free from hate, rage and cruelty has been
proven to be helpful towards a quick recovery.
OR
Richard Morris
Get a reality check, Ken.
Avant Grape
Boy, did you ever nail it.
-JC
Octopus Ride
"Avant Grape" <avantnog...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:DSRdk.12164$cW3....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
Well, I guess. I should have added that he doesn't just stick to someone's
health, he'll use anything that he believes will really hurt someone in
their real life. That's the Mary example; he knew she was upset about the
Joe/Rupert thing and was sensitive to it, so he hurled that sling as soon as
he could, believing she would actually be hurt in her real life; which she
was, and now he's happy about it.
Its one thing for a bunch of people to bash each other with common Usenet
insults or even cutting remarks that might sting for a minute or two. Most
of us do or have done that, and sometimes it can be fun. Its another thing
altogether to look for that one thing that can really ruin someone's day, or
even make them feel like shit for a longer time.
Its a rare RMGD poster who does that sort of thing intentionally and
repeatedly, a rarer thing still to never apologize for it, and as far as I
can recall, its only a Ken thing to actually be proud of it.
I used to think he was an idiot, then I thought he was despicable, now I
just feel sorry for him. He's quite the sad case.
OR
Ken Fortenberry
> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
>> Richard Morris wrote:
>>> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
>>>> I've never said a single word about
>>>> Kelly's mom.
>>> Sorry Ken, but that simply is not true.
>> I've never said a single word about Kelly's mom.
>>
>> Take the 15 word test.
>
> Get a reality check, Ken.
In other words, you took the 15 word test and failing to
find a single word I said about Kelly's mom you choose to
perpetuate the lie anyway.
I'm sorry to say I am not surprised.
--
Ken Fortenberry
volkfolk
>
> - Show quoted text -
I didn't say you did. What I did was point out that I don't come close
to the virtriol that you display on a daily basis
HTH,
Scot
mjd
what do you do with the hairs when you're done splitting them - stir
'em up in your Schpudweiser?
Ken Fortenberry
> <bullshit snipped>
> He is the only person I have ever read on this group that stoops to such a
> level. He's fortunate that's the case, as I doubt he would feel very good
> if he were to sit down here one morning and find posts making fun of his
> medical condition or of the medical condition of a loved one. There's
> plenty of well known ammo available in that area for posters to use in his
> case and others; but as far as I know no one but him as ever used such
> garbage as a weapon.
LOL !! You're a piece of work Toad. I don't get all whiny and
outraged when folks use the manboobs putdown to make fun of
myself when I've been on prednisone for 6 months. Such garbage
should be beneath contempt but in this context it obviously is
not. So be it. What you pricks really, really hate is not the
weapons I use, you assholes use the same weapons all the time,
no, what you really, really hate is that I'm better at it than
you are. And that's a bitter pill to swallow, eh Toad ?
--
Ken Fortenberry
Avant Grape
LOL
Wow.
-JC
Octopus Ride
> Octopus Ride wrote:
>> <bullshit snipped>
>> He is the only person I have ever read on this group that stoops to such
>> a level. He's fortunate that's the case, as I doubt he would feel very
>> good if he were to sit down here one morning and find posts making fun of
>> his medical condition or of the medical condition of a loved one.
>> There's plenty of well known ammo available in that area for posters to
>> use in his case and others; but as far as I know no one but him as ever
>> used such garbage as a weapon.
> LOL !!
You're not laughing Ken. Stop trying to show how all this rolls off your
back; it doesn't.
> You're a piece of work Toad. I don't get all whiny and
> outraged when folks use the manboobs putdown to make fun of
> myself when I've been on prednisone for 6 months.
Liar.
This is so easily refuted. One look back at the Russert Redux thread will
prove that you didn't mention that you were on Prednisone until after I made
the manboob remark. I wouldn't have made the remark if I had known. And
as you already know, I commented after you first mentioned it that thought
the drug might be causing your unpleasant behavior here and even pledged not
to use it against you after you mentioned it.
Here's the exact exchange as it occurred, including your first mention of
Prednisone. Anyone can Google it.
Me: >> You really are a basketcase full of jello, aren't you?
Ken: > I think the phrase you're looking for is "fucked up as a soup
sandwich".
Me: >> Sorta like those manboobs.
Ken: > LOL ! Well, I'm workin' on it. Down to 222 lbs. as of this morning.
I've lost right at 20 lbs. since I quit taking the prednisone.
Me: Unlike myself, we all know that Ken is suffering from a debilitating
physical illness and is undergoing unpleasant treatments. Prednisone,
beseides causing massive weight gain, can also cause a roid-rage type
syndrome, which may what we're witnessing with his behavior here. Rather
than attack him on that front, I'll have some sympathy on the poor guy and
let this exchange pass into the ether
> Such garbage
> should be beneath contempt but in this context it obviously is
> not. So be it.
You're a liar as everyone can see. Certainly a manboob remark is in the
category of common Usenet insult. A big tough character like you with such
thick skin should be able to handle something like that without lying about
that exchange. I had no idea you were on Prednisone until you chose to
mention it; after I made the manboob remark. Now you're lying in an
effort to portray me as you portray yourself here. No dice.
> What you pricks really, really hate is not the
> weapons I use, you assholes use the same weapons all the time,
> no, what you really, really hate is that I'm better at it than
> you are. And that's a bitter pill to swallow, eh Toad ?
Nope. I don't aspire to using bigger and more damaging weapons. I gather
that that's a goal of yours and that the normal people here are impressed by
it. We're not.
Glad my post hit so close to home.
OR
Octopus Ride
> LOL
>
> Wow.
Indeed. Not only did he blatantly lie about the manboob/Prednisone exchange
(weird since it can so easily be disproven) he actually thinks we're all
here to try to cause as much harm as we can to each other.
He truly is a twisted individual.
OR
volkfolk
You're a fucking joke Ken..If you think that anybody here is jealous
of you, you're deranged
I'm curious, on one hand you think that we're all a bunch of pricks,
whose opinions you don't care about yet on the other hand you come
looking for good vibes and sympathy when you have personal crisises
like your health issues or the loss of your daughter
So why bother sharing this information with people who you claim not
to give a shit about? It seems pretty schizophrenic to say the least
I think Toad nailed. You're a sad, pathetic little man who gets his
jollies belittling people to make yourself feel better. I suspect that
you're bitter about the lot that life dealt you and that as a result
you want everybody else to feel as hopeless as you do.
Obviously the reason that you know that I am a "mean spirited. foul
tempered antagonist" is because you are so familiar with those traits
in yourself
You remind me of the last line of "Positively 4th St" I have no doubt
that I am not alone in that sentiment
Scot
grunk
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry Ken,
Good luck with this
Sounds like you are fighting a helluva battle, and putting a good face
on it.
But Scot, being just the latest ringingly great example, and so many
others seem to be beating you at every turn here, and rightly so!
You sometimes come off like the Dick Cheney of Rmgd, at least vibe
wise.
Say hi to Barlow, btw..
To bring up some furthur Dylan lyrics?
"Take care of yourself and get pleny of rest."
Then go fishin', already!!!
Neil X.
> Richard Morris wrote:
> > "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
> >> Richard Morris wrote:
> >>> "Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
> >>>> I've never said a single word about
> >>>> Kelly's mom.
> >>> Sorry Ken, but that simply is not true.
> >> I've never said a single word about Kelly's mom.
>
> >> Take the 15 word test.
>
> > Get a reality check, Ken.
>
> In other words, you took the 15 word test and failing to
> find a single word I said about Kelly's mom you choose to
> perpetuate the lie anyway.
>
> I'm sorry to say I am not surprised.
Man, feel the denial.
Peace,
Neil X.
Douglas T Lilley
> "Avant Grape" <avantnograpec...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
I was on Prednisone (and methotrexate, another steroid) for 2 years
for RA. It was hell doing it and hell to come off of, took forever.
I lost weight during that time, just my $.02.
Brad Greer
<kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
>Some of you will be distressed to learn that I survived my first
>round of the new chemo today. My January remission went into
>remission and the kidney disease came back stronger than ever.
>My auto-immune system must be as ornery as I am and it's my poor
>kidneys that are being attacked.
>
>Since the CellCept and prednisone didn't work we decided on a
>cycle of Rituximab. There was a very small chance that it could
>have caused a fatal allergic reaction but now that I'm done
>with the first one I'm in no danger going forward. Hopefully
>this will be the cure.
>
>I'm pretty pooped right now and I'll take a rest tomorrow but
>the plans are now to go fishing, camping and canoeing until I
>have to report back to the lab.
Good luck, from one of your anklebiters. None of us wish you dead,
it's just usenet.
Brad Greer
<kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
>DanPopp wrote:
>> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>>> the plans are now to go fishing, camping and canoeing until I
>>> have to report back to the lab.
>>
>> Even though you're a Budweiser drinking Cardinal fan I wish you well.
>
>Thanks, Dan. There's not much I can do about being a Cardinal fan,
>you cannot grow up where I did and not be a Cardinal fan. I might
>have to dump the Budweiser though. If InBev succeeds in their hostile
>takeover of the brewery no Anheuser-Busch product will ever knowingly
>pass my lips again. If I were to drink beer from "The Brewery" (in
>St. Louis the Anheuser-Busch brewery is simply "The Brewery") knowing
>it was owned by Belgians, and foreign Belgians at that !! my German-
>American ancestors would spin in their graves so hard the Gateway Arch
>would topple into the Mississippi.
Your German ancestors are already spinning in their graves that you
drink Budweiser and call it beer. The wouldn't care if the brewery
were owned by Belgians.