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Asnek

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Sep 21, 2009, 5:54:50 AM9/21/09
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Hi Guys
we got hjere around one smal argue regarding eternal mask. i found
several ruling here and link for most important for me is below.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/8c388e4fc3750de3#

but i will rather describe situation from the game:

Arika with soulgem burned herself via force of will bleed (how
unusual). Dedefra pops out. Dedeefra plays Eternal mask at superior
and returns Arika to us. then arika played Martinelis ring and i used
heidelberg to swap soulgem and martinelis ring between them.

At the moment martinelis ring is placed on Dedefra Eternal mask will
be burned due to ring's card text. and here come the argue. option
that was proposed was following:
- Arika stays with us: Eternal mask is burned. since card text of mask
doesn't say burn the digged out vampire (Arika) from the game once the
mask is out of the game (this option works only in untap).
- Arika is burned with soulgem working: Mask is burned therefor Arika
is burned as well. as she is now equiped with soulgem it trigers and
story of one Arika follows
- Arika is burned but soul gem is not trigered: as the ring and
soulgem are moved as part of effect there is no time window to put
them in function (this one is the less probably option for me)

If this question is somwhere here around already please sorrz me and
just drop me a link for it here.

thanks for responses.

Card Texts:
Eternal Mask, The
Type: Action
Requires: Serpentis
Cost: 1 blood
+1 stealth action.
[ser] (D) Bleed at +1 bleed.
[SER] Put this card on this vampire and move a unique vampire from any
ash heap to your ready region with any amount of blood from this
acting vampire. The minion with this card cannot take actions, block,
play reaction cards or vote. You may burn this card and the chosen
vampire during any untap phase

Martinelli's Ring
Type: Equipment
Unique equipment.
Cards that require Malkavian, Malkavian antitribu, Dementation [dem]
or Serpentis [ser] cannot target or be placed on this minion. Burn any
cards on this minion that require any of those clans or Disciplines.

Heidelberg Castle, Germany
Type: Master
Cost: 2 pool
Master: unique location.
Tap to move blood, equipment cards and/or retainers between any two
ready vampires you control. (You choose the amount of blood you move
and which cards you transfer.) Cannot be used during an action.

floppyzedolfin

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Sep 21, 2009, 6:50:40 AM9/21/09
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On Sep 21, 11:54 am, Asnek <tatadl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys
> we got hjere around one smal argue regarding eternal mask. i found
> several ruling here and link for most important for me is below.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_t...

>
> but i will rather describe situation from the game:
>
> Arika with soulgem burned herself via force of will bleed (how
> unusual). Dedefra pops out. Dedeefra plays Eternal mask at superior
> and returns Arika to us. then arika played Martinelis ring and i used
> heidelberg to swap soulgem and martinelis ring between them.
>
> At the moment martinelis ring is placed on Dedefra Eternal mask will
> be burned due to ring's card text. and here come the argue. option
> that was proposed was following:
> - Arika stays with us: Eternal mask is burned. since card text of mask
> doesn't say burn the digged out vampire (Arika) from the game once the
> mask is out of the game (this option works only in untap).
> - Arika is burned with soulgem working: Mask is burned therefor Arika
> is burned as well. as she is now equiped with soulgem it trigers and
> story of one Arika follows
> - Arika is burned but soul gem is not trigered: as the ring and
> soulgem are moved as part of effect there is no time window to put
> them in function (this one is the less probably option for me)
>
> If this question is somwhere here around already please sorrz me and
> just drop me a link for it here.
>
> thanks for responses.

The Eternal Mask is burned, Arika remains in play.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/436117c8a05c2fba

LSJ

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Sep 21, 2009, 6:54:12 AM9/21/09
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Asnek wrote:
> Hi Guys
> we got hjere around one smal argue regarding eternal mask. i found
> several ruling here and link for most important for me is below.
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/8c388e4fc3750de3#
>
> but i will rather describe situation from the game:
>
> Arika with soulgem burned herself via force of will bleed (how
> unusual). Dedefra pops out. Dedeefra plays Eternal mask at superior
> and returns Arika to us. then arika played Martinelis ring and i used
> heidelberg to swap soulgem and martinelis ring between them.
>
> At the moment martinelis ring is placed on Dedefra Eternal mask will
> be burned due to ring's card text. and here come the argue. option
> that was proposed was following:
> - Arika stays with us: Eternal mask is burned. since card text of mask
> doesn't say burn the digged out vampire (Arika) from the game once the
> mask is out of the game (this option works only in untap).

This. You are not using the Mask's burn option, so you don't have to burn Arika.
(As per post #3 in that thread).

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