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Some questions: Rock Cat vs Magnum, Disguised Sniper Rifle

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Petri Wessman

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28 oct. 2002, 08:09:1028/10/2002
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Anyone know the answers to these?

1) If a minion with capacity < 4 & equipped with a Magnum (for
example) is in combat with Rock Cat, can they use the maneuver from
the weapon to go to range even though they are prohibited from
striking with the weapon? Or in a general sense, if an effect
prohibits you from using a weapon as a strike, can you still use
other effects from the weapon?

2) If a minion blocks an action and then equips with a Sniper Rifle
via (inferior) Disguised Weapon, can they use the "set range"
effect? In other words, does the minion have to have the weapon
when the block is made, or is it enough to have it before the
choose range combat step?

//Petri

LSJ

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28 oct. 2002, 08:16:4928/10/2002
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Petri Wessman wrote:
>
> Anyone know the answers to these?
>
> 1) If a minion with capacity < 4 & equipped with a Magnum (for
> example) is in combat with Rock Cat, can they use the maneuver from
> the weapon to go to range even though they are prohibited from
> striking with the weapon?

No.

> Or in a general sense, if an effect
> prohibits you from using a weapon as a strike, can you still use
> other effects from the weapon?

No. The classic ruling involves Hidden Lurker.

> 2) If a minion blocks an action and then equips with a Sniper Rifle
> via (inferior) Disguised Weapon, can they use the "set range"
> effect? In other words, does the minion have to have the weapon
> when the block is made, or is it enough to have it before the
> choose range combat step?

No. The former.

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James Coupe

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28 oct. 2002, 08:22:3928/10/2002
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In message <877kg21...@ws16.smallplanet.fi>, Petri Wessman

<or...@orava.org> writes:
>Anyone know the answers to these?
>
>1) If a minion with capacity < 4 & equipped with a Magnum (for
> example) is in combat with Rock Cat, can they use the maneuver from
> the weapon to go to range even though they are prohibited from
> striking with the weapon? Or in a general sense, if an effect
> prohibits you from using a weapon as a strike, can you still use
> other effects from the weapon?

You cannot maneuver with a strike (or weapon) if you can't strike. [LSJ
20000225]

Maneuvering commits you to a strike, which you can't use.

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>2) If a minion blocks an action and then equips with a Sniper Rifle
> via (inferior) Disguised Weapon, can they use the "set range"
> effect? In other words, does the minion have to have the weapon
> when the block is made, or is it enough to have it before the
> choose range combat step?

No. You have to posses the Sniper Rifle when the block is made. The
bearer didn't block the action, because he wasn't the bearer at the
time.

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