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LSJ Illusions of the Kinderd and Telepathic Tracking

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wedge

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Sep 8, 2009, 1:56:31 PM9/8/09
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I have seen a couple of different ruling on this and wondered that is
current.

[chi] Combat ends. Move the bottom card of your crypt to your ready
region. He or she does not contest any other vampires or titles in
play. The vampire has an amount of blood equal to half of his or her
capacity (round down). Combat begins between the vampire and the
opposing minion. Remove the vampire from the game at the end of
combat.

A and B are in combat. A plays IotK. Can A play TT? This does not que
a new combat just continues an existing one.

If xe can in the continued combat and B is no longer ready. Is the
illusion removed from the game, even though it was never in combat? If
it stays in play does it still not contest?

witness1

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Sep 8, 2009, 2:12:22 PM9/8/09
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On Sep 8, 1:56 pm, wedge <matt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have seen a couple of different ruling on this and wondered that is
> current.
>
> [chi] Combat ends. Move the bottom card of your crypt to your ready
> region. He or she does not contest any other vampires or titles in
> play. The vampire has an amount of blood equal to half of his or her
> capacity (round down). Combat begins between the vampire and the
> opposing minion. Remove the vampire from the game at the end of
> combat.
>
> A and B are in combat. A plays IotK. Can A play TT? This does not que
> a new combat just continues an existing one.

Correct:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/318945851fb508f0/a8f64b3fb7bb0c38?q=telepathic+tracking+illusions+author:lsj+group:rec.*.jyhad

>  If xe can in the continued combat and B is no longer ready. Is the
> illusion removed from the game, even though it was never in combat? If
> it stays in play does it still not contest?

Every part of Illusions of the Kindred after "Combat ends." is ignored
if combat does not end.

-witness1

LSJ

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Sep 8, 2009, 2:14:12 PM9/8/09
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wedge wrote:
> I have seen a couple of different ruling on this and wondered that is
> current.

Probably the most recent of those.
Links?

> [chi] Combat ends. Move the bottom card of your crypt to your ready
> region. He or she does not contest any other vampires or titles in
> play. The vampire has an amount of blood equal to half of his or her
> capacity (round down). Combat begins between the vampire and the
> opposing minion. Remove the vampire from the game at the end of
> combat.
>
> A and B are in combat. A plays IotK. Can A play TT? This does not que
> a new combat just continues an existing one.

Yes.

> If xe can in the continued combat and B is no longer ready. Is the
> illusion removed from the game, even though it was never in combat? If
> it stays in play does it still not contest?

TT interrupts IotK's effect, and, since TT extends combat, the rest of IotK's
effect is lost.

The bottom card of the crypt is never touched. It remains at the bottom of the
crypt.

wedge

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Sep 8, 2009, 2:22:39 PM9/8/09
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> Every part of Illusions of the Kindred after "Combat ends." is ignored
> if combat does not end.

Of course my mistake, how about this B blocks A

A plays Dawn Operation then Skin of Night and Weather control
B plays Undead Persistence
A plays Illusions of the Kinderd

What happens?

LSJ

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Sep 8, 2009, 2:39:13 PM9/8/09
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wedge wrote:
> B blocks A
>
> A plays Dawn Operation then Skin of Night and Weather control
> B plays Undead Persistence
> A plays Illusions of the Kinderd
>
> What happens?

Combat ends.
B goes to torpor.
Bottom crypt card comes out to enter combat with B. It is removed from play.

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