I went to an auction last year and I thought I was at a carnie
convention.
I want to go but I do not need to get ill.
Expo has come a long way from the Ramada, to Wyndham, to the Westin - a very
fancy place. Go and have a blast. You'll be glad you did. LTG :)
"Mike Rotch" <frank...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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come on...thats KINDA funny....
It in no way was inteneded toward the hotel. Of the 3 years I went to
the Wyndham only last year the room was above par. Definately BELOW
par for the price they charge.
Just wear rubber gloves and you will be OK. I swear DAMN near no one
washes their damn hands after going to the restroom, and then they go
out and touch the machines. Guess what your touching when you play a
game? If I have to fart, which I have to do often (Im human) , I go
freaking outside or at least AWAY from people. I swear people will
shit right on you! And several times I smelled body odor so bad I had
to get away, I damn near gagged once.
But all in all, its only about 5% of the time. Not like its everyone,
most people are friendly and thoughtful souls, just have to work on
the hand washing thing.
Just bring some hand sanitizer and you'll be alright!
Oh forgot to tell you about the famed, or infamous Expo funk. Google
it on here, lot of people get sick after Expo. Cold weather maybe? Bad
hygiene maybe? Who knows?
"OK, since you asked for the "exploding ass" story, here goes:
Roomed with 3 other guys in 2005 at the Wyndham--I got floor space
because I'm cheap in some aspects, paying motel bills being one of
them. One of the roomies then--who shall remain nameless because I'm
too kind to rat him out publicly--ended up having some sort of
irritable bowel problem that came on extremely hard and fast one
afternoon...so fast that he didn't quite get seated onto the toilet
in
time. There was a major poop explosion all over the bathroom floor
and
walls and after some initial attempts at clean up, he realized he was
way over his head on this one. Our ringleader of the room had to call
the front desk for a maid to come up and do a MAJOR bathroom cleaning
(which she was tipped nicely for I might add) and some new towels.
This was not the only thing that happened last year either. The
following day after the exploding ass episode, another roomie who
happens to be named Sam Harvey (I can rat him out because he won't be
reading this anyway) gets sick from some kind of flu-like or food
poisoning malady and spends the next two days straight throwing up
about every 20 minutes. I walk into the room at an exact wrong time
and
am greeted by the sight of a lumpy, hairy, and mostly naked guy
draped
over the toilet with his balls hanging out the bottom of his boxer
shorts absolutely heaving his guts up. And I mean loudly.
This year I'm not sure which was worse: the tar smells or Pin Geek.
But I was able to endure both. Ahh, the Expo memories... "
"Speaking of stinkers. Some dude crapped his pants while playing
UltraPin, trying to get the high score on MM. Accidents happen, but
don't keep playing! Wow!"
"The homeless looking guy hitting on the poor Mayfair girl from 2am
to
4am.... :-D "
I went to the Texas Pinball Fest and that was not my experience. It
was at the Hilton, a nice hotel by my standard, and I even took my
wife. We had a good time. It did seem to attract the engineer, comic
book, old guy tinker crowd, which I think I am part of, but for the
most part everyone was very nice. Maybe one or two people trying to
make a buck at our expense, but that was it. I even started playing a
Sorcerer (which I had never seen up close and personal before) and
someone stopped by and started explaining the rules to me. That is
quite a shock when you are usually the only guy in the crowd that
knows what a pinball coil is. I never noticed any sticky flipper
buttons or anything gross. YMMV.
Dan
not everyone is gross, i only see the gross things happen at expo
anyhow, most shows people are clean overall:)
This is troll mike #3. Looking at the content it seems very familiar
and can be easily taken care of with:
http://www.source9.com/trollkiller.html
Free as always.
I always wash my hands after using the washroom. Use deoderant &
shower daily. Sometimes people forget the human decency things when
attending pinball events.
>
> Oh forgot to tell you about the famed, or infamous Expo funk.
Otherwise known as the "Expo Crud".
I suspect that the average pinballer is no less hygienic than the
average guy walking the streets of Anytown, USA. It's just that the
density of people at a pinball show tends to put you in closer
proximity to those who fall in the below average range on the "Tsubota-
Kemper Hygienic Scale". It's sort of like spending 5 days on a
crowded elevator. Somebody passes gas and everybody feels the..
well... "rush".
What makes pinball shows somewhat unique from a "disease vector"
perspective is that everybody is touching the exact same things... the
flipper buttons. That's why hand sanitizers are important... and you
just about have to use it after every flipper button encounter to do
much good.
Rick Swanson
"Rick Swanson" <rns...@charter.net> wrote in message
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What makes pinball shows somewhat unique from a "disease vector"
perspective is that everybody is touching the exact same things...
Rick Swanson
Did anybody happen to notice this posters name? Say it out loud a
couple times, I think then you will realize he is just phishing...
BTW, first time poster, but have been reading this forum for about six
months now since getting back into the hobby. All in all a great
bunch of people here, very knowledgeable and helpful.
Whenever I'm at expo, in addition to the normal hygene measures (wash
hands after using the restroom, showering, using deodorant, all that), I
use my "public transportation" rules. They essentially boil down to
*never* touching your eyes, nose, or mouth unless you've thoroughly
washed your hands first. And if you're going to go eat, go wash your
hands thoroughly before you touch anything.
That'll take care of 98% of the expo crud that's out there.
--
Have a home video that's trapped on your camera? Want to share it on the
web or on DVD?
And that's no shit!!!!
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
Home of the EXECUTIVE Pin Footie http://www.pinfooties.com
On Sep 19, 4:43 pm, "WOLFUS" <Timeise...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Just keep your hands away from Mi keRotch(My crotch).
> and anybody elses that comes along.
> Timathie"Mike Rotch" <frankga...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
Good time to come back...most of the really smelly stuff has left this
place. Back to (near) normal around here!
Kirb
You know, if you wash your hands well before you eat/smoke/whatever,
you will be fine.
But that's true of spending time in any public place where you touch
what others have touched (amusement parks, mini-golf, the mall, etc).
Chris
The OP's the same "Mike" who's also been using such clever pseudonyms
as "Mike Oxesphat" and "Mike Littispungent." Three years ago when he
was performing his "Aquaman" schtick on RGP, he was "Mike_Oxlawng."
It's pretty obvious who it is, and equally obvious that he'd never
show his face at Expo or any other pinball show.
Dirty T shirts, BO, some pilfering, passing gas in a crowd, kids with
no manners that hog the games, and a few rude folks. But hey, it's a
crowd.
When you operate a booth or display you are going to come into contact
with the most people. I have had to back away from some people more
than once. It's like you want to say "there is toilet paper".
I'd definately take a hand sanitizer and use it often. Maybe if I
have a booth at Pacific Pinball Expo I'll sell hand sanitizer!
Mario
Pinthetic
On Sep 19, 3:19 pm, Bryan Kelly <bskel...@aol.com> wrote:
> Our local electrical inspectors name is Mike Hawke.
>
> And that's no shit!!!!
>
> Bryan (CARGPB 14)http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
> Home of the EXECUTIVE Pin Footie http://www.pinfooties.com
>
> On Sep 19, 4:43 pm, "WOLFUS" <Timeise...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Just keep your hands away from Mi keRotch(My crotch).
> > and anybody elses that comes along.
> > Timathie"Mike Rotch" <frankga...@gmail.com> wrote in message- Hide quoted text -
> Just wear rubber gloves and you will be OK. I swear DAMN near no one
> washes their damn hands after going to the restroom, and then they go
> out and touch the machines. Guess what your touching when you play a
> game?
Are you trying to say I do not keep a clean penis?
If I have to fart, which I have to do often (Im human) , I go
> freaking outside or at least AWAY from people.
Huh? Now what fun is that?
I swear people will
> shit right on you! And several times I smelled body odor so bad I had
> to get away, I damn near gagged once.
OMG, that is hilarious! I would just die seeing that reaction. If I
can figure out who you are, you will definitely be a "marked" man!
Hehe.
Chris
Please do not spray stuff directly on the machines. Or at least not
my machines. It will just get into the button and gunk things up,
plus there's always a slight risk it could mess up the paint. If you
feel the need to sanitize before every play, spray your hands then dry
them off before playing.
Honestly, I think some of you are blowing this way out of proportion.
I've been to plenty of Expos, and CAX a couple of times, and despite
the fact I don't even bring hand sanitizer, I haven't gotten sick from
any machines. Last year there was a nasty flu going around which
probably spread a fair amount at Expo, but that is mostly air-borne
viruses, not transmitted via flipper buttons. Remember, viruses like
cold, dry climates, which pretty much described Chicago in late Fall.
All this excessive sanitizer use just results in stronger bugs down
the road anyway....
John
> Our local electrical inspectors name is Mike Hawke.
>
> And that's no shit!!!!
>
>
I went to high school with a Richard Head.
But hardly anyone called him that:o)
Some parents are just downright mean.
--
David Gray
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This operation will henceforth run entirely on mirrors.
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There are more bacteria on your hands than on Mr Happy. Wash your
hands beforehand :).
Dan L
Just remember not to touch eyes mouth or nose while in the hall
playing and wash your hands upon leaving the hall.
Its the flipper buttons mostly touched by thousands over the weekend
and a great way to spread germs.
Bring some hand sanitizer like some have suggested. These things you
should do anyway in a public place but most of all have fun. This will
be my third Expo and I didn't get sick from the first two because I
use common courtesy and sense. It is so much fun to walk into the main
hall at expo you will forget all the negatives believe me. Between
playing most of the greatest games you can find and watching and
talking to the repair techs as they do repairs you can learn so much
that you will deffinatley walk away with somthing permanent to help
you in the future in the hobby. Expo and pinball show are so cool.
Also in march or so check out the Midwest Gaming Classic in Wisconsin
near Milwaukee.
That's a great show as well, not as big Pinball wise but still a major
Pinaball event. That one covers all kinds of gaming and is really cool
as well.
Expo Expo sis-boom-bah! Expo Expo Rah Rah Rah!!!
Ok, that was Semi-Gay I know, but I couldn't help it...not that
there's anything wrong with that...
Come on town to www.TexasPinball.com
You will have a great time, Held at a Hilton Resort,
with outstanding Clean facilities !
Shannon, / TexasaPinball
dan c
(actually, my biggest pin show pet peeve is when someone starts a 4-
player game for just themselves. this is really the worst when there
are clearly folks waiting to play the same machine- don't be pin hogs,
people!)
You wont have to worry about me playing your machines BCUZ i ONLY play
nice, fully working games;)
LOL j/k/
seriously thow, if i ever sprayed lysol, it was 12 inches away from
the buttons after the guy that got done playing it was couphing the
whole time in his hands while playing the game.
whats worse anyhow- people touching the buttons with sweaty, dirty ,
grimey, stink hands....or me spraying lysol 12 inches away from the
game, so that aerosol (not liquid) touches the buttons.
i have caught the flew 3 years in a row at expo by air/food or
something there.
nastyness!!!!
Marvin G.
EM Pinball, And Nothing But!
http://mysite.verizon.net/~woodrails
On 9/19/08 5:57 PM, in article
04fbbbe8-8fa0-4fa5...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "Rick
Swanson" <rns...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> I suspect that the average pinballer is no less hygienic than the
> average guy walking the streets of Anytown, USA. It's just that the
> density of people at a pinball show tends to put you in closer
> proximity to those who fall in the below average range on the "Tsubota-
> Kemper Hygienic Scale". It's sort of like spending 5 days on a
> crowded elevator. Somebody passes gas and everybody feels the..
> well... "rush".
>
> Rick Swanson
I had a teacher in college named "Harry Chin", ok that's not as bad
but you have to remember than HE picked that first name when he came
to America (he was not US born). :)
> whats worse anyhow- people touching the buttons with sweaty, dirty ,
> grimey, stink hands....or me spraying lysol 12 inches away from the
> game, so that aerosol (not liquid) touches the buttons.
The lysol is a liquid Andy!!. ..so there would be liquid touching the
buttons. Whether that is good or not is up for debate.
The term aerosol refers primarily to the form of product delivery.
Compressed gas (usually) acts as the propellant. The general premise/
idea behind an aerosol can is one fluid stored under high pressure
which is then used to propel another fluid out of the can.
Mark Salas
> seriously thow, if i ever sprayed lysol, it was 12 inches away from
> the buttons after the guy that got done playing it was couphing the
> whole time in his hands while playing the game.
> whats worse anyhow- people touching the buttons with sweaty, dirty ,
> grimey, stink hands....or me spraying lysol 12 inches away from the
> game, so that aerosol (not liquid) touches the buttons.
> i have caught the flew 3 years in a row at expo by air/food or
> something there.
Lysol has a high concentration of alcohol. (That's one reason why it's so
flammable!) So you're in effect spraying alcohol directly on paint.
That's REALLY bad for old paint!
Seriously, if anyone I know would catch you spraying lysol on a machine,
the germs would be THE LAST thing you'd have to worry about. If you're
that much of a germophobe, wear gloves or stay home. You don't have the
right to f*ck up other people's equipment, end of story.
I think you should ask Gary Stern that halfway through the factory
tour.. ;)
This reminds me of a study some high school students did. They took
swabs of different areas in public places like restrooms, restaurants,
stores, etc...and had them checked for bacteria counts.
Anyways, the highest bacteria count came from the soda dispensing
machines in restaurants. Higher than public restrooms! No one ever
thinks twice about buying a soda so, I don't think you should be
worried about a pinball show.
P.S. In college, I had a guy in one of my classes named Dum Phuc. True
story.
Won't Korn threaten a boot up your a$$ if he sees you spraying a
foreign substance on the flipper buttons of someone's machine? Best to
bring your Wells Lamont (Chicago company ownned by Marmon/Pritzker
family) gloves and wear while playing.
Across all demographics you will find people who wash their hands
after using the toilet.
I work for a fortune 500 <choke> company and the CFO takes a pi$$ and
walks right out the door. without washing his hands 75% of the time.
And this is just from my and one other co-worker's observations. I'd
say that since our numbers match, this research is somewhat
scientific. He even has to pull a door handle to exit the men's room.
At least we know to not shake his hand!
Ass gaskets, that's a good one.
No such problem with Bingo pins. There you deal withe the start &
extra ball chance buttons as well as the collect and feature buttons
though.
i guess you dont know when im pulling someones leg or not.
seriously
i guess ill have to put on the j/k or LOL or ;) next time.
geeesh!
i was j/k anyhow (unless anyone has ever seen me do that......spraying
machines......., please lmk).
i would never hurt or intend to hurt another persons machines.
i was just going with the goofy flow of the thread.
Maybe he knows that urine is sterile. ;-)
Rick Swanson
There was a guy in my high school named Peter Alotta and another guy
named Dick Settles but the best one was Bob Oranus.
:)
Eric
its the same for hairspray thow.
the closer you hold it to your head, the wetter it is upon contact.
im speaking about the can style, not plastic bottle pump)
test: hold a can of lysol and spray it with its tip 1 inch from a
toilet seat. notice the wetness.
now, do it from 12 inches away
results=?
when you go in a room and spray it with lysol (bathroom, living
room,etc) does all of the sudden, the whole room and floor gets wet
and ruined.? it seems to evaporate. im not a scientist, i just call
what i see.
QUESTION: would you also be mad if someone used a baby wipe on their
hands or a handy wipe to wipe their hands off ( just before playing
your machines? the wipe is not being wiped on your machine.
dont these wipes have similar chemicals/ingredients as to clean
aerosol sprays. doesnt hand sanatizer have alcohol or some other
flamable drying element in it as well? sure feels like it when you rub
it on your hands.
how about if someone had dirty hands with other oil/chemicals on them
while playing. chances are, if someone is playing your machine and
they did not previously wash their hands thoroughly, some kinds of
foreign substances are on them.
so , from argument, it looks like you are damnded if you clean your
hands, and damned if you dont.
bottom line is, having games on location (or bringing em to a show for
the public to play)- its things you have to deal with (unless you
stand guard at your machine and you inspect everyones hands b4 they
play).
i find arcade game buttons and joysticks, flipper buttons with
sticky kiddie foods on em, pizza greasy hand stains, pop stains and
other surprises quite often on location on my personal machines..
thats a chance you take placing games in the public realm. just keep
them clean as often as possible. hangin signs n such helps sort of,
but a 1 or 2 year old tottler cant read , and a teen wont care, and a
drunk adult dont care either.
Just read your post now. This is after my 1:01 posting. Guess I was
right!
I'll let you ponder why. ;-)
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
Home of the EXECUTIVE Pin Footie http://www.pinfooties.com
On Sep 20, 12:25 pm, erickit <erickitr...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> There was a guy in my high school named Peter Alotta and another guy
> named Dick Settles but the best one was Bob Oranus.
>
> :)
>
> Eric- Hide quoted text -
Try licking the machines less and you'll be fine. We can't help it
that you have this fetish. :p
"Bryan Kelly" <bske...@aol.com> wrote in message
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But you are still leaving a residue, if you aren't then you aren't
doing any good!
> when you go in a room and spray it with lysol (bathroom, living
> room,etc) does all of the sudden, the whole room and floor gets wet
> and ruined.? it seems to evaporate. im not a scientist, i just call
> what i see.
>
> QUESTION: would you also be mad if someone used a baby wipe on their
> hands or a handy wipe to wipe their hands off ( just before playing
> your machines? the wipe is not being wiped on your machine.
> dont these wipes have similar chemicals/ingredients as to clean
> aerosol sprays. doesnt hand sanatizer have alcohol or some other
> flamable drying element in it as well? sure feels like it when you rub
> it on your hands.
>
Yes but generally the alcohol dries the mixture on your hands before
you can put them on the flippers.
Personally I would be upset if someone was spraying something on my
machines - if they asked first that might be different.
Just wash your hands after handling. You could stick your hand in a
pile of crap and you aren't likely to get sick, at least until it gets
near an opening (mouth, cuts, rear, etc)... just wash your hands...
warm water for several minutes. Follow up with sanitizer if you feel
the need.
And what someone else said about Mr Happy being cleaner, this is
generally true (assuming you bath regularly and having been touching
other stuff with it).
Chris
> chill out.........
>
> i guess you dont know when im pulling someones leg or not.
> seriously
> i guess ill have to put on the j/k or LOL or ;) next time.
>
> geeesh!
Sorry man, didn't look like a joke. But the :) would help discern intent.
;)
> test: hold a can of lysol and spray it with its tip 1 inch from a
> toilet seat. notice the wetness.
> now, do it from 12 inches away
> results=?
Another wet seat.
> QUESTION: would you also be mad if someone used a baby wipe on their
> hands or a handy wipe to wipe their hands off ( just before playing
> your machines? the wipe is not being wiped on your machine.
> dont these wipes have similar chemicals/ingredients as to clean
> aerosol sprays. doesnt hand sanatizer have alcohol or some other
> flamable drying element in it as well? sure feels like it when you rub
> it on your hands.
No, because of three critical differences:
1) Amount. There is far less wet ingredient in a handy wipe than there
is in 1 second of spraying lysol.
2) No propellent. Using a spray you're shooting things out under
pressure, which is quite different than simply wiping your hands with
them, them travelling through the air at low speed, then rubbing against
something.
3) Much less area affected. Pretty much only the area you're touching
(buttons, lockdown bar) would be affected, vs. the entire spray circle
from a can.
> how about if someone had dirty hands with other oil/chemicals on them
> while playing.
How about if I a guy doused it with gasoline and then dropped a lit
cigarette? How about if the guy just got off work from a nuclear plant?
How about if the guy was an alien?
You can do unlikely what-ifs all day long.
> bottom line is, having games on location (or bringing em to a show for
> the public to play)- its things you have to deal with (unless you
> stand guard at your machine and you inspect everyones hands b4 they
> play).
Whatever. You made a boneheaded statement; don't bother trying to do
gymnastics trying to defend it, just let it go.
Where/how am I supposed to wash my hands?
--
Fred
TX
CARGPB#8
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-Joel
Did you participate in the two-man tournament? It was during that
tournament that I remember being assaulted by the "smell from
hell". ;-)
Rick Swanson
It wasn't a tent it was a fort and not just any fort, it was sanctuary
dammit.
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2uNLAOM2nU
Eric
I have never been to any other show than that one but for the 2 years
I have been it was awesome. The people were nice and it was clean and
very well run. Craig Hassel did a VERY good job. And yes Im the
asshole that made the comments on the game lineup but that was just
one of many mistake I have made. I actually made a point to go to
Craig and apologise and tell him what a good show he set up. You walk
through a few funky smells avery once in a while but hell when you get
that many people in one place its bound to happen.
Nah, we were in the 4-man team. Either way, everybody's funktastic
smells all gelled into one, unified nasty conglomerate. If only the
world can unite as quickly as those pungent expo aromas :-)
-Joel