Aunt Jemima

[Judith Latham]

1893

Aunt Jemima Born.

In 1889, Charles Rutt, a Missouri newspaper editor, and Charles G.
Underwood, a mill owner, developed the idea of a self-rising flour
that only needed water. Rutt called it Aunt Jemima's recipe. Rutt
borrowed the Aunt Jemima name from a popular vaudeville song that he
had heard performed by a team of minstrel performers. The minstrels
included a skit with a southern mammy. Unfortunately for him, he and
his partner lacked the necessary capital to effectively promote and
market the product. They sold the pancake recipe and the accompanying
Aunt Jemima marketing idea to the R.T. Davis Mill Company.

The R.T. Davis Company improved the pancake formula, and, more
importantly, they developed an advertising plan to use a real person
to portray Aunt Jemima. The woman they found to serve as the live
model was Nancy Green, who was born a slave in Kentucky in 1834. She
impersonated Aunt Jemima until her death in 1923. Struggling with
profits, R.T. Davis Company made the bold decision to risk their
entire fortune and future on a promotional exhibition at the 1893
Columbia Exposition in Chicago. The Company constructed the world's
largest flour barrel, 24 feet high and 12 feet across. Standing near
the barrel, Nancy Green, dressed as Aunt Jemima, sang songs, cooked
pancakes, and told stories about the Old South -- stories which
presented the South as a happy place for blacks and whites, alike. She
was a huge success. She had served tens of thousands of pancakes by
the time the fair ended. Her success established her as a national
celebrity. Her image was plastered on billboards nationwide, with the
caption, "I'se in town, honey."

[Ed P]

Sadly, she is gone. When I was a kid, 4 - 5 years old, our next door
neighbor had a lady come it to clean and such two days a week. Could
have been a twin of Aunt Jemima. Her name was Beulah.

Back then, it was common for neighbors to help each other and when we
played with the kids next door, Beulah made sure we had snacks and
behaved too. Times have changed.

[Thomas Joseph]

Ed P wrote:

Times have changed.


That's what they do Ed, they change. Sounds like you can't handle
it. I can help. I am very adaptive. I give in to these and roll with
the punches. I can help you to do the same. But you have to want
it. You have to want it bad. You will have to sacrifice and give of
yourself - just like in the old days - and then together, you and I, will
be able to forge a new path to glory and peace on earth, good will
toward all mother fucking men.

[GM]

When I was a kid in first grade, 1960, "Aunt Jemima" visited our small rural school and entertained us kids...

Wiki:

"Advertising agencies (such as J. Walter Thompson, Lord and Thomas, and others) hired dozens of actors to
portray the role, often assigned regionally, as the first organized sales promotion campaign...

Quaker Oats ended local appearances for Aunt Jemima in 1965..."

And don't forget - Jill inherited an Aunt Jemima cookie jar from her mother...

--
GM

[Thomas Joseph]

No really, this really happened - one of the reasons 'experts' say it's
not a good idea to give IQ results to students, especially if they are
high scores. When I was in my late teens I took a test to determine
what I was best at. My forte. I took the test honestly - as any good
egotist would. When I was finished the results said my number one
'talent' was adaptability. I liked hearing that. I believed it so much
that I began calling myself Mr. Adaptability. And from that day
forward I never adapted to a single thing in my life.

Doing well on the adaptability test held me back and turned me
into a loser for life. For a while I was pissed, but in a way I am glad
the way things turned out. See what I mean? Adaptable. Oh yeah man.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 16:46:22 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ed P wrote:
>
>Times have changed.
>
>
>That's what they do Ed, they change. Sounds like you can't handle
>it.

If you're looking for someone who can't handle the changing times, I
think you're barking up the wrong tree.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 16:52:00 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

>No really, this really happened - one of the reasons 'experts' say it's
>not a good idea to give IQ results to students, especially if they are
>high scores. When I was in my late teens I took a test to determine
>what I was best at. My forte. I took the test honestly - as any good
>egotist would. When I was finished the results said my number one
>'talent' was adaptability. I liked hearing that. I believed it so much
>that I began calling myself Mr. Adaptability. And from that day
>forward I never adapted to a single thing in my life.

lol

[Thomas]

Is because they are snowflakes. Half are below average.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

A snowflake can be intelligent. But here's a question: can a Trump
supporter be intelligent?
>

[Thomas Joseph]

Bruce wrote:
Thomas wrote:

Thomas Joseph wrote:


> not a good idea to give IQ results to students


> Is because they are snowflakes. Half are below average.


> A snowflake can be intelligent. But here's a question: can a Trump
> supporter be intelligent?

I read fast. Too fast. Of course I'm not reading at all, I'm guessing.
Like listening to a joke and trying to get to the punchline before the
guy telling the joke. I admit it. I misread things a lot because of it.
Like just now, I thought you were going to say, "A snowflake can be
dangerous", and found myself waiting for you to launch into a variety
of ways a simple snow flake can kill people. I think everything on earth
is alive, even rocks. And they all want to stay alive. They will kill to do it.
When a snowflake begins to "thaw out" it cries, "Please don't let me die" -
but then dissolves away and becomes water which also wants to live and
will kill to do it. That's why floods exist. Also fires. They want to stay alive
forever too. They will go on forever if not stopped. Wildfire! That's life.

Thomas Joseph, author "The Snowflakes are Dying."

[Thomas Joseph]

Thomas wrote:
Thomas Joseph wrote:

> not a good idea to give IQ results to students


> Is because they are snowflakes. Half are below average.

As an egotistical kid I took IQ tests often. I scored higher
than average but I wanted genius level. So I kept taking IQ
tests till I learned how to improve on them. I finally achieved
it - genius level. Then I stopped taking the tests and returned
to doing what I do best - being a fucking idiot.

[Thomas Joseph]

Thomas wrote:
Thomas Joseph wrote:

> not a good idea to give IQ results to students


> Is because they are snowflakes. Half are below average.

Speaking of below and above average I have a theory that
applies to all fields of endeavor. It says that a very large
majority of people in all fields are not very good at what
they do don't care how they do it. And a very small minority
of people in all fields are very good at what they do and proud
of how they do it. This applies to all - doctors, scientists, whatever -
just a bunch of C students holding on to their jobs.

Driving cab I picked up a bunch of med students going out to
hit the bars. I told them of my theory. I made sure to tell them
it applies to all fields of endeavor. Some guys in the back said,
"Yeah, that makes sense." Whether they meant it or not I do not
know for sure. But one guy, the one sitting up front, said after
a long pause, "Well, I'm not sure that applies to doctors", and I
knew right then that he was already a member in good standing
of the first group - totally inept. I can't stand blind loyalty, sticking
up for people just because they have the same job. Many people
getting into my cab would complain about the cab service in this
town. It sucked when I did it and it sucks still. They'd get in and
tell me what they think of cab drivers. I would not argue. I'd even
agree with them. "Yes, many, maybe most, are assholes", I'd say -
but I am not one of them." And they knew it, that's why they called
me instead of the company.

I'm tired now. Gotta get to bed, taking off on a national lecture tour
starting tomorrow.

[alan_m]

On 02/04/2023 23:36, Judith Latham wrote:

> Aunt Jemima

In the UK we have Aunt Bessie who manages on her own to supply all the
major supermarkets with products cooked in her small kitchen. :)

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[Thomas]

From the last several results it appears the smart people stayed home.
Did you stay home?

[Bruce]

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 01:35:26 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>

Don't a lot of people always stay home?

[Thomas]

Good morning. I wish I could right now.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 01:42:31 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>

I tend to stay home. But tomorrow I might have to go to the vet. Not
for myself.

[Brian Gaff]

Yeah, everyone is in too much of a rush these days, and I never did see what
difference a persons skin colour made to whether they were a good person or
not. The main problem has always been an education gap.
Brian

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[soup]

On 03/04/2023 08:05, alan_m wrote:
> On 02/04/2023 23:36, Judith Latham wrote:
>
>> Aunt Jemima
>
> In the UK we have Aunt Bessie who manages on her own to supply all the
> major supermarkets with products cooked in her small kitchen. :)

Are you suggesting she might not be real?
<gulp>

Take that back, and say it ain't so.

Mmm, her Goose fat roasties and Yorkshire puddings

[Slevin]

Judith Latham wrote:
> 1893
>
> Aunt Jemima Born.
>

It's bigoted to imply that white women can't even cook pancakes.
Aunt Jemima is racist.

[alan_m]

On 03/04/2023 10:48, soup wrote:
> On 03/04/2023 08:05, alan_m wrote:
>> On 02/04/2023 23:36, Judith Latham wrote:
>>
>>> Aunt Jemima
>>
>> In the UK we have Aunt Bessie who manages on her own to supply all the
>> major supermarkets with products cooked in her small kitchen. :)
>
>
> Are you suggesting she might not be real?
> <gulp>

She can probably trace her family lineage as far back as Mr Kipling (who
makes exceeding poor cakes) :)

And then there is that small family run small holding that produces all
of Lidl's meat :)

[rbowman]

On Mon, 03 Apr 23 10:05:26 UTC, Slevin wrote:

> It's bigoted to imply that white women can't even cook pancakes.
> Aunt Jemima is racist.

White women invented pancakes...

https://www.einfachbacken.de/rezepte/pfannkuchen-das-schnelle-grundrezept

[rbowman]

On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 11:38:40 +0100, alan_m wrote:


> She can probably trace her family lineage as far back as Mr Kipling (who
> makes exceeding poor cakes)

Rudyard? I didn't know he cooked.

[Scott Lurndal]

"Brian Gaff" <brian...@gmail.com> writes:
>Yeah, everyone is in too much of a rush these days, and I never did see what
>difference a persons skin colour made to whether they were a good person or
>not. The main problem has always been an education gap.

Please don't top-post, even if you're in too much of a rush to
scroll to the foot of the reply.

The problem is that education has been devalued and replaced
with hollywood dreams and useless sport entertainment; science
education has been stigmitized (the geek paradigm) and TV
and the movies (and now social media) glamorize useless leaches
like the kardashians.

[Peeler]

On 3 Apr 2023 15:46:06 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> White women invented pancakes...

Yet another reason to be proud of yourself, lowbrowwoman! <G>

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want to know what they were feeding it."
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[Gregory Morrow]

In article <TGsSGCMBoSwJDOpC...@news.usenet.farm>, sle...@192.168.1.1 says...

Can we do this for everything black now? Demand re-branding because its a "racial stereotype"?

Let's begin with BLM (Burning Looting Murder) & the NBA!

--
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[dsi1]

It was the Americans that perfected the pancakes - beats me what color they were.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kEHn6ug6BgJ77xqz9

[S Viemeister]

On 03/04/2023 17:13, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> "Brian Gaff" <brian...@gmail.com> writes:
>> Yeah, everyone is in too much of a rush these days, and I never did see what
>> difference a persons skin colour made to whether they were a good person or
>> not. The main problem has always been an education gap.
>
> Please don't top-post, even if you're in too much of a rush to
> scroll to the foot of the reply.
>

Brian is posting from uk.d-i-y, where we know that he is blind, and
top-posting is much easier for him.

[Peeler]

On 3 Apr 2023 16:09:45 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>> She can probably trace her family lineage as far back as Mr Kipling (who
>> makes exceeding poor cakes)
>
> Rudyard? I didn't know he cooked.

No, Mr. Kipling, you illiterate self-centered self-admiring senile hayseed.

[jim.gm4dhj]

On 03/04/2023 17:13, Scott Lurndal wrote:

who?

[Lenona]

On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 7:17:27 PM UTC-4, Ed P wrote:

> Sadly, she is gone. When I was a kid, 4 - 5 years old, our next door
> neighbor had a lady come it to clean and such two days a week. Could
> have been a twin of Aunt Jemima. Her name was Beulah.
>
> Back then, it was common for neighbors to help each other and when we
> played with the kids next door, Beulah made sure we had snacks and
> behaved too. Times have changed.

It's interesting, for more than one reason.

For nearly 30 years, I've been corresponding with a Czech friend of my father (my father went to Prague in the 1990s to teach English to adult students, which is how he met him).

Anyway, while I can't remember how the subject came up, my father happened to mention that in Czechia, PAID babysitting is practically unheard of.

This is likely because young parents there typically have relatives living close by, whereas in the U.S., it's common for families to have to relocate for economic reasons - FAR away.

But even so, while the term "baby-sit" was coined circa 1937 (see the following fascinating article on the history of babysitting), paid babysitting by neighbors or teenagers didn't become common until the 1950s. That was partly because full-time servants used to be far more common until then, so they did it along with their many other jobs; the job didn't need a special name.

https://bebusinessed.com/history/history-of-babysitting/

The shift to young girls as sitters got vividly portrayed in the charming children's book "Dot for Short" (1947) by Frieda Friedman, which is about a working-class NYC family with three young daughters. The 12-year-old asks her dad if it's OK "if I take care of a baby" that night. The dad is so shocked he stops eating and stares. Finally, he says: "Who's the baby and why doesn't the mother take care of it?"

She then explains that the parents (who are friends of her teacher) wanted to go out, would pay her a dollar for the night ($13.49 in today's money), and would provide her with candy, fruit and books for the evening.

So I was telling my Czech friend about U.S. restaurants and the recent bans on families with children younger than 6 - sometimes 10 - and how even some PARENTS support that, since many parents hire babysitters and go to expensive restaurants, only to have their meals ruined by parents who DIDN'T keep their screaming, running brats at home. (Note: It IS perfectly possible to teach kids "restaurant manners" at home. If they can't learn, they're too young to eat out - or the parents are wimps, period.) That's when he reiterated what my dad had said - and I told him all of the above.

(I also mentioned that all too often these days, teens don't want a job that pays minimum wage or less, especially if the particular small children have awful reputations. So finding sitters today can be hard for parents - unless the parents are willing to pay in advance and pay WELL, especially for skills like CPR, if the sitter is trained in that. The other factor is that parents feel guilty about all the hours they have to spend away from their kids, so they don't hire sitters - they just take the kids to all sorts of places where the kids don't BELONG, such as breweries. They also don't want to be correcting them all the time, since the parents often don't have any friends - see above, about relocating - and so they make the mistake of treating their kids like friends, instead, and let them run wild. No wonder the restaurants are banning kids!)

Btw, my father once got asked by his adult students what a "pie" was. He explained, but they still couldn't grasp it, since Czech cuisine doesn't really have anything like that!

(Aside from the fact that pie - with a top crust - is mostly confined to northern Europe, and that doesn't even include Poland - Prague is one of the few glamorous Western cities where no foreign tourist goes for the food. Blame that on the aftermath of Communism, though things may well have changed since the 1990s. The main exception is the world-famous beer, of course.)

See here for a related thread on pies and beer, if you like:

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.movies.past-films/c/ZYcTNZlM0yc/m/9FdSrHnNKXMJ

[alan_m]

On 03/04/2023 17:13, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> "Brian Gaff" <brian...@gmail.com> writes:
>> Yeah, everyone is in too much of a rush these days, and I never did see what
>> difference a persons skin colour made to whether they were a good person or
>> not. The main problem has always been an education gap.
>
> Please don't top-post, even if you're in too much of a rush to
> scroll to the foot of the reply.

Brian is blind and uses a screen reader. His top posts are tolerated on
the groups where he posts regularly.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-03, Thomas Joseph wrote:

> I scored higher than average but I wanted genius level.

Here is a riddle for you: In what university-level physics
course were we encouraged to guess test / exam answers?

Hint: Was my highest mark of any university course.

[Dave Smith]

I studied statistics and probability and retained enough to know there
are mathematical formulae to determine odds, but I stick to my belief
that the odds are always 50/50. Something happens or it doesn't.

I was once caught up in a cheating scandal. We had weekly tutorials
that we had to complete and hand in for marking. There were calculators
and pocket calculators back then but they were way too expensive for
students to be able to afford. Photo copies were cheaper. I played cards
with a girl who had a friend was was a match whizz. The smart girl would
do the hers and let Sue copy it. Sue made several copies and gave them
to her boyfriend Bert and a couple other friends. I was one of them.
Each then made a couple copies and gave them to their friends.

Apparently about half the class of 250 were handing in copies of that
one girl who had done the assignment. The professor announced that he
was aware that there was a lot of cheating going on and he was not going
to tolerate it. He said that he was going to have a student come to his
office and do solve the problem there and if the person could not to it
they would be kicked out of the class. He then said that since it was a
probability and statistics course, the person would be chosen at random.

He had 250 students to choose from and managed to randomly select the
girl who had done it, the one we all copied from. So we all had a good
scare, the professor was embarrassed enough that he dropped his
investigation ... and we all went back to copying her work.

[Thomas Joseph]

I can't get beyond physics into specific types. I quit school
when I was 15 - and boy am I glad. I have taken a few IQ
tests though - along with others - and I seem to remember
all of them saying to not waste time on a single question
and to move on to the next one for best results. I thought
it was common for all tests to encourage not wasting time.
Anyway, I can't guess because seriously I don't know the
various branches of physics. Oh now I think I know what
you're saying. Are you saying you were encouraged to guess
the answers to all questions right from the start? That is
interesting. How about multiple choice? For example, I'm
watching a quiz show and I come up with the only answer
I know. I only know one because I am not up on the topic.
But then they give multiple answers and suddenly I am
filled with doubt. "Uh, this one looks good", now starting
to distrust my original guess. I suppose there are some
good tests, but as a rule there seems to be an awful lot
of idiots passing just enough tests to get through the
university doors after which time they learn nothing.

Sorry, I don't know what you mean exactly. And I admit it.
That's what makes me great.

[Thomas Joseph]

Dave Smith wrote:

> Apparently about half the class of 250 were handing in copies of that
> one girl who had done the assignment. The professor announced that he
> was aware that there was a lot of cheating going on and he was not going
> to tolerate it. He said that he was going to have a student come to his
> office and do solve the problem there and if the person could not to it
> they would be kicked out of the class. He then said that since it was a
> probability and statistics course, the person would be chosen at random.

Interesting. I never verified this, I only heard it from a friend -
that Henry Ford would take prospective employees out to eat and
if they put salt on their food without tasting it first he would not
hire them. Not a very flexible test but an interesting test non
the less. Of course in time someone's going to find out, especially
if Henry tells them why he's not hiring them. So word gets around
and nobody ever salts their food when Henry invites them to eat.
I guess in the end all tests can be beat - if they exist long enough.
I believe in tests to some degree - we all test things from time to
time. But the written ones seem to be the most meaningless.

Hey man, don't test me!

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-04-03, Thomas Joseph wrote:

> Are you saying you were encouraged to guess
> the answers to all questions right from the start? That is
> interesting. How about multiple choice?

No. The course was the integration of multidimensional
differential equations. You got a mathematical expression,
and were required to integrate it.


Essentially, everyone was expected at that point to be able
to differentiate equations. Simple algebraic equations can be
integrated term by term, but not more complex ones.

So for a test or exam question, you would more or less
look at an expression and ask yourself: "Okay, what math
expression will produce this when it is differentiated?

Remarkably, the answer would often just come into my mind
unprovoked by any sort of rational erudition.

[Thomas Joseph]

Don't take this personally or be offended as I am not talking about
you as much as the humor I find in the whole subject of 'explaining'
things, how sometimes the explanation is more puzzling than the
puzzle itself. You used a few words there that are not part of my
regular lingo. But I do find your last few comments interesting, how
the answer just sort of 'came to you.' I understand that. I call it
clarity. Moments of clarity. I believe they happen. It's similar to an
athlete or any person being in "the zone" and can't seem to do anything
wrong. They are on auto pilot. Sometimes I think thinking gets in the
way. I think a lot of good thoughts come through when there is no
effort. Just open up the brain and let stuff swim through. Easy to say,
not so easy to do. A lot of it has to do with being relaxed and unpressured.
I can't speak for algebraic equations, but I've done some tough crossword
puzzles where I'd hit a road block. I'd put in some time with it and get
nothing. The next day I see the puzzle and pick it up and there it is - the
answer staring me right in the face. Yes it is an interesting topic.

[Mark Lloyd]

On 4/3/23 11:13, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> "Brian Gaff" <brian...@gmail.com> writes:
>> Yeah, everyone is in too much of a rush these days, and I never did see what
>> difference a persons skin colour made to whether they were a good person or
>> not. The main problem has always been an education gap.
>
> Please don't top-post, even if you're in too much of a rush to
> scroll to the foot of the reply.

And more important, snip adequately.

> The problem is that education has been devalued and replaced
> with hollywood dreams and useless sport entertainment; science
> education has been stigmitized (the geek paradigm) and TV
> and the movies (and now social media) glamorize useless leaches
> like the kardashians.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Truth in matters of religion, is simply opinion that has survived."
[Oscar Wilde]

[cshenk]

It's actually a setting on the screen reader and can be flipped.
Either way, I have no issues with it if disability driven.

[cshenk]

alan_m wrote:

> On 03/04/2023 17:13, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >"Brian Gaff" <brian...@gmail.com> writes:
> > > Yeah, everyone is in too much of a rush these days, and I never
> > > did see what difference a persons skin colour made to whether
> > > they were a good person or not. The main problem has always been
> > > an education gap.
> >
> > Please don't top-post, even if you're in too much of a rush to
> > scroll to the foot of the reply.
>
> Brian is blind and uses a screen reader. His top posts are tolerated
> on the groups where he posts regularly.

Which screen reader does he use?

[%]

cshenk wrote:
> It's actually a setting on the screen reader and can be flipped.
> Either way, I have no issues with it if disability driven.
>

AIOE is not your friend.

[Aunt Jemima]

AIOE ain't nobody's friend no mo, child. How 'bout some deee-licious pancakes?

[jmcquown]

Who cares? I deleted the cross-posting to this ovvious trolling post.

Jill

[T]

On 4/2/23 15:36, Judith Latham wrote:
> 1893
>
> Aunt Jemima Born.
>

> In 1889, Charles Rutt, a Missouri newspaper editor, and Charles G.
> Underwood, a mill owner, developed the idea of a self-rising flour
> that only needed water. Rutt called it Aunt Jemima's recipe. Rutt
> borrowed the Aunt Jemima name from a popular vaudeville song that he
> had heard performed by a team of minstrel performers. The minstrels
> included a skit with a southern mammy. Unfortunately for him, he and
> his partner lacked the necessary capital to effectively promote and
> market the product. They sold the pancake recipe and the accompanying
> Aunt Jemima marketing idea to the R.T. Davis Mill Company.
>
> The R.T. Davis Company improved the pancake formula, and, more
> importantly, they developed an advertising plan to use a real person
> to portray Aunt Jemima. The woman they found to serve as the live
> model was Nancy Green, who was born a slave in Kentucky in 1834. She
> impersonated Aunt Jemima until her death in 1923. Struggling with
> profits, R.T. Davis Company made the bold decision to risk their
> entire fortune and future on a promotional exhibition at the 1893
> Columbia Exposition in Chicago. The Company constructed the world's
> largest flour barrel, 24 feet high and 12 feet across. Standing near
> the barrel, Nancy Green, dressed as Aunt Jemima, sang songs, cooked
> pancakes, and told stories about the Old South -- stories which
> presented the South as a happy place for blacks and whites, alike. She
> was a huge success. She had served tens of thousands of pancakes by
> the time the fair ended. Her success established her as a national
> celebrity. Her image was plastered on billboards nationwide, with the
> caption, "I'se in town, honey."
>


I know an older women that when she was a child in
the 50's thought Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben were so
sweet that they should get married. Ya, a real
racist attitude. The Woke Left need to get their
minds out of the gutter.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 14:35:16 -0700, T <T...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>I know an older women that when she was a child in
>the 50's thought Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben were so
>sweet that they should get married. Ya, a real
>racist attitude. The Woke Left need to get their
>minds out of the gutter.
>

You don't want them that close to you?

[T]

What? Gutters or mentally ill people that think
everything around them is racists?

If you are implying black people. It depends on the
person. I take everyone one-at-a-time. They
are just folks no different then the rest of us.

Some I have and do still like and some I really,
really do not like. I follow a certain Christian
Republican preacher's teachings on the matter
by the name of Rev. Martin Luther King.

I find any thing that seeks to divides us apart
from one another as a country to be evil,
Woke-ism, 1691, Great Society, CRT, etc..

I also do not think that black folks need a racist
white liberals to hub them through their lives because
they think black folks are incapable of surviving on
their own without them. No insult there.

Oh ya, black folks is too stupid to show ID to
vote. Tell me again what they had to show to
get on the voter rolls in the first place.
Proof of residency not required for black folks?
But they are TOO STUPID to show ID when they go
to vote. OH NO INSULT THERE EITHER!

[Rod Speed]

Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote
> Brian Gaff <brian...@gmail.com> wrote

>> Yeah, everyone is in too much of a rush these days, and I never did see
>> what
>> difference a persons skin colour made to whether they were a good
>> person or
>> not. The main problem has always been an education gap.

> Please don't top-post,

He's blind, that's why he does that.

Some who reply to him do that just when replying to
him although I haven't seen him asking them to do that.

> even if you're in too much of a rush to
> scroll to the foot of the reply.

That's not the reason he top posts.

> The problem is that education has been devalued

Not convinced about that, particularly with the dregs of
the population, they always did devalue education and
mostly left as soon as they were legally allowed to do that.

> and replaced
> with hollywood dreams and useless sport entertainment;

> science
> education has been stigmitized

Not convinced that its been stigmatised, its just too hard for most.

> (the geek paradigm) and TV
> and the movies (and now social media) glamorize useless leaches
> like the kardashians.

And plenty see that drug dealers do a lot better than
anyone else in the dregs of society that they are part of.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 15:24:30 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

--
Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
He is by far the most persistent troll who seems to be able to get under the
skin of folk who really should know better. Since when did arguing with a
troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
MID: <1421057667.659518815.743...@news.individual.net>

[alan_m]

On 05/04/2023 06:24, Rod Speed wrote:
> Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote
>> Brian Gaff <brian...@gmail.com> wrote

>> science
>> education has been stigmitized
>
> Not convinced that its been stigmatised, its just too hard for most.

Just bad teaching. There is a lot written about how bad the education
attainment level is for a large percentage of the population but is
this fault of the kids or just a poor level of teaching.

I see recruitment advertisements on TV for teachers showing how much
difference a good teacher can make but in my experience of the system 60
years ago good teachers as shown in the adverts were in the minority.
The best advice I got from a teacher was leave school as soon as
possible and enrol in the local technical college. Even there there were
a few "teachers" who should have never been allowed to survive in the
profession :)

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 3 Apr 2023 18:43:43 +0100, alan_m

<ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>On 03/04/2023 17:13, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> "Brian Gaff" <brian...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Yeah, everyone is in too much of a rush these days, and I never did see what
>>> difference a persons skin colour made to whether they were a good person or
>>> not. The main problem has always been an education gap.
>>
>> Please don't top-post, even if you're in too much of a rush to
>> scroll to the foot of the reply.
>
>Brian is blind and uses a screen reader. His top posts are tolerated on
>the groups where he posts regularly.

Good to know. It's all right with me, and I'm glad he's here.